The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Daniel Cormier TV - Michael Venom Page PREDICTS a "DEVASTATING KNOCKOUT" for Ian Garry

Episode Date: June 28, 2024

Daniel Cormier is BACK with the DC Check-In, featuring new UFC superstar Michael Venom Page. MVP details to Cormier why Ian Garry is in for a "devastating knockout" at UFC 303. Plus, Page talks about his journey to the UFC, and why he's only a couple fights away from a championship opportunity. DC and MVP also talk about a future fight against Kamaru Usman, his recent outing vs. Kevin Holland, and what it was like fighting at Cormier's gym back in the day. 1:15 - MVP's appearance at DC's gym2:30 - UFC debut vs. Kevin Holland5:20 - Putting together Ian Garry fight8:10 - MVP's thoughts on Garry9:45 - Journey to the UFC11:25 - Kamaru Usman12:45 - Leon Edwards vs. Belal Muhammad14:45 - Fight prediction for UFC 303 (Timestamps vary based on ads) #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I always tell people this. I said, when you came to my gym and my kids all knew, I was surprised a little bit. They were like, yo, can we get a picture? Can we get a picture? I was, I ain't allowed. I was a little surprised. You resonated with those kids. That's good.

So, finally getting you here to the UFC and we get to Miami here in a second. But how has everything been so far? Yeah, in this trip, it's gone. According to plan, even not to literally talking about just to sleep, I think we just calculated everything correct. I'm just feeling good. I'm feeling very calm at the moment, relaxing, just enjoying the journey of this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, yeah, just itching to go.

My man, thank you for checking in with me. Guys, MVP, I bet man, dude, they took me to Saudi Arabia last weekend. Oh, yeah, cool. I had a thing in Santa Barbara yesterday, so I'm run down, but I still got to grind. I see. MVP came to my gym a couple years ago when he was still in Bellator and all the kids loved him. How does it feel to know that even when you were fighting there with less eyes on you, you still made that much of an impact that everybody, even all those kids, wrestling kids.

And your boy went through the ground at that practice, didn't he? Where's that guy? Man, we killed him, didn't we? Oh, you guys. We couldn't do it. Again. Again. Again.

Go again. He wanted it. Yeah, no, no, no. He's a beast. Unfortunately, he just, he fought on the weekend last weekend and lost. But it was all his fault. Really? He knew exactly where he went wrong.

He completely tenated the guy in the last round. Arguably it could have been a drill, but we like, you messed up the first couple of rounds. It's your fault. But I can definitely see the bounce back. Even now how mature he is to go, now I made this mistake. I feel it, but I know exactly right. Already, straight away after, like, I know exactly. what I need to do to do their comeback,

he's gonna be an absolute problem for people. Yeah. Let's talk about fighters, right? When you come over from Bellator, or me when I was in strike force, they match athletes with cities. My debut, you had the light, turn that light back off, my friend, there you go.

There you had it, you had it, don't press too many, there you go, you're good, no. They match athletes with cities. When I made my debut, they put me in San Jose, that's why I was training. They gave you Miami. big city, right? Sexy City. How did it feel to make your debut there? Like, how did you feel the energy? Was it everything you expected or was it more? Weirdly enough, although I agree

with you in terms of like they match you in the city, Miami is a very familiar place because my family's over there. Okay. Literally every time I fight, no matter where in this in the U.S. Close that door. Yeah. No matter where in the U.S. that I fight, I always go to Miami and spend time in my family so I'm accustomed to Miami just like just the people there the vibe there energy there it's weird though because the year before I was watching Adasaniya in Miami yeah I was in the crowd there watching and it was crazy everybody was like the noise in there was was crazy during my fight and it was weird it was it was clear in the way in the press conference that everybody the majority of

people were more Kevin Holland fans rightly so this guy yeah they were cheering for him and during the fight it was relatively be quiet. But I, in my head, I was like, the reason it's quiet is because they're sitting and like, I can't believe this is happening. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were literally hard to watch. Yeah, yeah, hard to watch. So, and you can't cheer for anything because even though I like what you're doing, I can't believe what you're doing and he's not doing enough. So it's just like, it was quite, the energy was actually lower than I expected. Really? Yeah, yeah. But, you know, weirdly enough, I kind of was proud that I was able to do that at the same time. But, yeah, it was still,

still a vibe. Still, it's still an amazing feeling to be here. Do you feel something, Are you knowing when you start to frustrate a guy like you had, Kevin? Did you see in him how frustrated because he can't get to you? Right? That's one of the things that you do that most talk about. They talk about all Michael Vindampeg, he does this and this. He's not that good. He's not this.

He's not that. But when you're in there and you can't solve the puzzle, you start to get frustrated. And then you go like kind of, you fall into a shell of yourself. Do you find joy in that when you watch a guy like Kevin going, dude, he's, he, you can tell it it's almost like he's broken. Yeah, yeah. We're not actually having to break it. I'll tell you now, my, since I was a kid, I was always known as the windup.

That was just not my character. I like to play crap jokes and, like, my friend's family will all tell you that Michael's, yeah, try and wind you up. I live off that. I don't know why. Really? Even my partner, my girlfriend, I just see that, oh, it's so annoying. Like, I always winding.

I love, like, just, I'm just very playful in that way. So I see it immediately. So, and I definitely saw it in him. And it's, yeah, it's, yeah, it's. Once I see that in someone, then I look to get the finish. But he's a tough guy. He's tough. So tough.

Yeah, he's very, very tough. So you get through that one. When it's time to schedule the second one, what are you thinking? Because I know you as a guy that kind of looks down the line. And we'll talk about that, right? You said through this one, we get Usman. So your guy that kind of looks down the line like, this is my path. What are you thinking when you left the cage in Miami?

Like, what type of competition were you looking to fight next? Wonder Boy, somebody like that. A lot of us think that's a dream matchup. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we had a few names in mind, but Ian was definitely one of them. We threw a few names, I think it was Luke. Yeah. But he then lost.

Yeah. So then it was like, okay, like, no, we want somebody that's going forward. Yeah, I can't remember who it was. Like Gilbert or someone, but he had, you know, he just finished a fight as well. A few people in our division fought at the same time. He was quite beaten up and stuff as well. So there was a lot of people unavailable. But Ian was like, oh, yeah, we'll go for Ian.

And they're like, oh, no, he's unavailable because he's fighting Colby. That never came to happen. Yeah, exactly. That's the only reason why this fight has come to fruition now is because they were like, okay, Kobe's definitely out. So if you still want that fight, and I'm like, yeah, let's get it. And it made sense. Seven's my lucky number.

He's ranked number seven. Yeah. I was like, yeah, that one. So it settles on Ian Gary. undefeated fighter tremendous striker confident as can be when you get the matchup

even though it's when you want what's your initial thought I was super excited I was super excited because for me it makes sense matching me up with somebody that's not initially going to want to just hug my legs without doing anything

because the difference between a wrestler that wrestler that wrestles and tries to damage you and finish you versus a wrestler that tries to survive on you and just to get, let me know what you're talking about. Let me just get out this fight. I know what you're talking about.

You're talking about Logan. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I know. Yeah, Logan's one of my guys. Exactly. I know him well. Some of the stuff he did in the fight was exceptional. Yeah, kind of grappled you, though.

Yeah, no, but it's exceptional in terms of somebody we trained, we brought some guys over, and he's done some stuff, and I was like, oh, I didn't. It was like Mahatchew with Dustin Porier, right? Going to like a different level of wrestling that you, even if you train it, that's something you do your whole life. Exactly. Yeah. It's hard to experience.

there and um but yeah he did for me he didn't he wasn't going to win the fight he's going to almost survive survive the fight but when i have a striker i know initially he's going to his ego is going to tell him yeah i can strike i can strike so for the for the most part i'm going to get a fight but then he's going to go to the secondary of trying to grapple and that's not his thing his energy's going to die he's going to desperately try and strike on try and grapple and walk into some dangerous strike so yeah so ian gary you want to fight him because he's you said makes sense. It seems as though Ian Gary likes to have a bit of something to the fight. Because Ian Gary is almost taking the approach of what I said early. Everybody will say MVP's not this,

MVP's not that. Hell, you weren't fought in bare anduckle. I mean, you fought in Bellator. You fought all those guys there. You fight here. When you hear some of the things that he's saying, I'm not up for this one. I wanted somebody ahead of me. I'm this. What do you make of that? The way that he's Almost like if he couldn't win there, how's he supposed to win here? Like, what do you make of that when you hear Ian Gary saying these things? It's avoidance. I don't see, for me it tells me something about his character. Those guys that are craving to be champion, you go for everybody.

I want to be that person that nobody wants to fight. I'm going for everybody. I don't care what. Ranking doesn't mean anything to me. If you got even a little bit of hype, I'm going to kill that hype. he's in an avoidant state as in, let me belittle this guy, so try not to draw more attention to it.

He's fighting Kevin Holliday, he's never going to beat me. I don't want to fight him. He's ranked too low. Like, avoidant, avoidant, avoidant. I don't want to entertain this. Even while we have this fight on, he's still like, I don't want to entertain this. I don't want to make it bigger than it is

just in case he does what I've seen him do. His whole career, he's seen me do what I do. So if that happens, then he's been making too much noise. I think he's trying to soften the blow a little bit. Yeah, but you don't think he believes that. I don't think you believe that at all. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games.

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It's hard, right, whenever you can see your resume on paper. You've pretty much done everything you can do in this game. You come from Belator. Do you feel, because I always felt this when I left Strike Force, I was like, no matter how good I am, I have to be a little bit more to show I belong here because of one of my career, Do you feel like that carrying that like being a guy that spent so much time in Bellator? Especially a guy that, look, I'll tell you this, and I'm not saying Scott did this, but Scott is good at finding matchups. He did it for me.

I fought every of my first fights were guys that wrestled. They didn't do anything else. If, like, well, Ian said, star building. You had great fights for you to build a star that you are today. Do you feel like you always kind of got to do me? I got to do more to show. I'm not just some guy Bellatorre built. I'm Michael Vennepage.

I'm a career martial artist, and I got the goods. You know what is? For me, I like to learn off other people. Example is, Floyd Mayweather, every single time he beat the next person, so I had friends around, we all have debates of people that weren't fans of him. You know, I was a fan of him. We have him back and forths. Every single time he beat someone, they're like, yeah, no, but he needs to fight.

this guy. They always move the goalpost. Always moving the goalpost. I can't satisfy or try to chase and appease people that are going to always move the goalposts. They will do it every time on you. So it doesn't matter. So why would I need to, why would I put the pressure on myself to try and outdo? Because they're always going to keep adjusting and moving the goalposts. For me, go in there do me, for the people that I attract from that, you know, thank you. And you said that after this, you want Kabar Usman. Are you trying to path a route where it's Ian Gary, Kamar Usman, championship opportunity? Yeah, that's what it feels like for me.

If I'm looking at it on a ranking system, Ian Gary's number seven. I think being Ian Gary puts me in top five. Yep. Roundabout there. And top five means I have one mistake, and when I say mistake, one injury or something, it will postpone fight away from a belt,

or I take one more fight, and I'm guaranteed the belt. So I'm looking around with other guys, Some people are potentially going to be fighting. So I'm like, okay, Eusman's the only one that no one's really mentioning or saying anything about, and he's number one rank. I don't think he fought. And he didn't fight bad against Hamza.

Exactly. He's number one rank, and he obviously went up a division to fight that fight, but still, it's like, guys, he's a beast, man. He's a beast. He was a great champion. So why not? Because my thing is, I win that fight.

no one can say anything about me taking the belt next. There's no dispute, there's no debate, there's nothing. I'm guaranteed the belt next. So if I'm going to think about it that way, then tactically, that makes the most sense. Yeah. Well, talking about that belt, Leon Edwards, Bilal Muhammad. How do you see that thing playing out? I think they're both very slow-paced fighters.

And technically it suits Bilal. I think it's slow-paced fighter will suit Bilal in terms of his wrestling. an ability in three rounds but over five rounds I think it will start to favor Leon so because Leon's ability to continue the dangerous strikes in the fourth and fifth round yep will be a lot higher than Bilau because he's going to be a bit muscular fatigued and so his takedowns are going to work a little bit less and that's where you can get caught out we've seen it with Usman he's completely dominating and you know Leon has the ability to still knock you out in the fifth so I

I think it favors Leon. I think if Leon was to put a bit more pace on that fight at the beginning, I think you can potentially even finish it earlier. Why do you think people don't give Leon the credit that he deserves? I couldn't tell you. Poor Leon Edwards. I know, I know. He was fighting against Nate Diaz.

You beat him up, man. One punch. That was the whole highlight. I didn't see anything else after that. What was that? You know, I was that? I personally, he had like so much bad luck in that regard. Yo, he beat the shit out of knee.

He mashed him up. And then that one, that one punch. And then Nate kind of pointed out of it. That became the story to fight. That was the story, the whole fight. Then he not only beats Usman the first time, second time he did it more dominant. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Why, I mean, why does he not get the respect? I personally think is to do with people, love characters. His character is low. Low vanilla. He's got, he needs a little bit of spice on that. Yeah. He needs to draw. more people, entertain more people, however it suits him, but he doesn't care to do all that

kind of stuff. And I get it if that's, if that's you, but you still need to find a way to it's important. That's why it took you so long to take this path because you're not, you're not, nobody's turning their head at you. Yeah. If, if Dana could see that you were turning heads, you would have got that fight way before. Yeah. And I think that's what it is. Like people don't care about your personality, your persona. If you invest a little bit of time and market in yourself, I think more people will. Well, you had the Undertaker entrance last time. What you got for Saturday?

I got a little something, I released a little video for my walkout track and we're just making fun of Ian Gary. So it's... That's what I'm saying, you and Ian Gary. Like, I mean, it seems like there's a little bit there, not too much, but it seems like there's a little bit there. Are you guys a boat fishing for a little something? How's a fighting on Saturday night?

Devastating chaos. Honestly speaking, like that, don't know what it is he he's got the he's just his face ux people dude and a poor kid the poor kid had all the hype and everybody loved him yeah and then uh patty pimbleau told me listen to this bro you know patty pimble when he won that fight and everybody was mad at patty yeah they turned on patty yeah patty pymbley came into a fighter meeting and he was like i'm so happy i'm so happy ians on the card because he was like that's what he said Did you believe that?

Yeah. Why? He's a good fighter. No, he's a tremendous fighter. Yeah, I think. I think. Well, like you just said, his face worked, people. Yeah, no, but it's also his just, just how he goes about thing.

I think he's trying to, he's massively inspired by Connor, as everybody's seen. He speaks about, which is obvious. But I think you're also trying to play the role of, I'm in Connor's position, and you're not there yet. Yeah. It's like, sometimes you've got to almost know your position. He's trying to, I think this is why he also clashes his heads with a lot of people in gyms. and has to move around. He moves around quite a bit.

He has to move around a lot, which says a lot about your personality. I think sometimes you need to learn how to manage your confidence and that ego. And I think it shows that he can't manage it. He's still immature in how he's got this ego, which is good for fights. Don't get me wrong,

but in terms of just day-to-day, you need to learn how to dial it down a little bit sometimes because otherwise you're going to irk a lot of people. And just literally he's his face. I just want to beat up. He just want to beat him up. He just wants to beat him up. He just wants the opportunity to do that this weekend.

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