The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Daniel Cormier TV - Seth Rollins on Roman Reigns & CM Punk historic Triple Threat match

Episode Date: April 21, 2025

Seth Rollins joins Daniel Cormier for a special edition of the DC Check-In LIVE FROM WRESTLEMANIA 41 in Las Vegas! DC and Seth talk about his historic Triple Threat match against Roman Reigns and CM Punk and how he plans on making wrestling history. Plus, Seth "freaking" Rollins BREAKS NEWS that he will be announcing the Chicago Bears NFL Draft pick! And don's miss Rollins talk about participating in his 12TH WRESTLEMANIA and why this feat is so special for him today. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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They're in your corner with unlimited 5G data that will not slow you down. I would like the gift that keeps giving because my next guest, hey, he's one of my favorite wrestlers. I mean, I know I just said that about the last guy, but he's one of my favorites. So I had once, I was in San Francisco,

and I went to WrestleMania with my son. my son was a massive Roman range fan loved him so this guy was a bad guy he cashes in the money in the bank he wins the world championship I go crazy my son does not speak to me one word

all the way home because he was so mad that I was celebrating this guy yo this guy came into the WVE as a member of a group and when you have a guy like a Roman reigns at times it's hard but this dude listen to these stats

this has to be some of the crazy shit listen to these stats he is a two-time world champion he's a five-time universal champion he's a six-time tag team champion

I'm not done yet though I'm still not done I'm still not done this man has won the grand slam man two times because he's also an intercontinental champion, United States champion. He is in his 12th, WrestleMania. Guys, give it up for one of the greatest

WWU superstars of all time. Seth Brigh-Rour! Nice, we got the pyro and everything. That's good. I like that. I like that. What's up? All you're all doing out there?

I mean, every time? Every time. Seth Rollins not going to let you down, you know, in the style of the apartment. You know that. Come on now. Good, man. Appreciate you. You know, I remember, I was telling the story about my son at WrestleMania in San Francisco, Santa Clara, when you won. And you were waving the belt, and I was going crazy from the stands.

Hey, how life has changed. I got the family tickets that were in the nosebleeds before. Now I sit down on the floor. I'm in Road 2 on Saturday. Nice. I went crazy. My kid would not. speak to me. But you know what you did? We became friends. You signed the money in the bank

for me before that and it said champ to champ, Seth Rollins. Since that day, man, I've been a massive supporter. So proud of your success. Congratulations on everything. This career has been amazing to watch my brother. Oh, thank you so much, man. Yeah, I really appreciate that. It has been 10 years. This WrestleMania would be 10 years since the heist of the century and Santa Clara. So, yeah, a lot has changed. I am a father now. Yes. A few world title reigns later. I mean, it's, you know, you have a burgeoning career and, and broadcasting and it. I mean, it's just everything's changed. It feels like another lifetime ago, really, but I'm also happy for all your success and everything you've done. And I appreciate all the love and support over the

year. So thank you very much, man. Again, from champ to champ. Thank you. You are the man. Seth, you are a father, and life has changed tremendously for you since those days back then. Explain to people how the career changes when you have that why. A lot of times as an athlete, you always search for the why. What gets me up in the morning? What makes me so committed to my craft? When you can see that why, how much easier is it for you, even as you've been in the game for a while, to be the best in the world?

because you know you have your daughter and your wife at home. Yeah, you know, it's such an interesting thing for me. When I had my daughter, when I got married, and it all kind of came together for me, it really allowed me, and this might sound super strange, it allowed me to take my foot off the gas pedal of myself, and I was able to coast. And what I always saw, I also have a wrestling school back home.

And what I always tell my students is fast isn't fast, smooth is fast. And so I've been able to like take my foot off the gas a little bit and sort of given myself an entire different perspective on what it means to be a person in the world that's not just focused on me. And what I think that's done is it's opening an entire new world for me in my career because I have. have somebody else to live for. I have another priority that's more important than myself. And so when I jump back in the car and put my foot on the gas, it's not just for me, it's for her and for her future, but it also allows me to do it in a way that is in some ways more productive because I have less pressure. Like, it's not the most important thing in the world for me that I'm the greatest. You know what I mean? What's most important in the world for me is that I'm

the greatest dad, that I'm the best husband I can be. And it's allowed me to kind of have a different perspective on my career and what it means to be successful. These people love you, man, and it's not just the song. There are times when you are the bad guy, and for me, if I'm being honest, man, my favorite Seth Rawlins is the bad guy. I love when you're, I love him. I love him. I I love when you're sneaky. I love when you cheat. I love when you're like, I love that guy. But the love that you get from these fans,

how great does that feel for you every time you hit that curtain to feel that type of just love and appreciation? Well, you know how it is. You know, you've had so many fights in your career. And, you know, there's an adrenaline rush every single time you do it. But every time you do it, it's just a little less and a little less and a little less. But the thing that never changes, the thing that is more and more is kind of this relationship of gratitude that you get with all of you guys.

So every time I come out through the curtain, it doesn't matter what it feels like behind the curtain. The second I step out and I hear you guys singing the song or chanting the name or whatever it is, if you're booing the life out of me or you know, you're cheering for whatever I say, that relationship to me, I am more and more grateful for that, the more that I do it. And so I never get tired of that. And for me, as a fan,

as someone who is just like all of you, who idolized people in my shoes growing up, I never, ever get tired of that. And it is one of my driving forces that keeps me coming back time after time, match after match, year after year. You know what I love? And I was speaking to Gunther just recently,

And he said it's been 20 years since he started wrestling. You guys know at a very young age that this is the craft that you want to make your living in. This is the career path that you choose. When you get to 12 WrestleMania's. Is it 12 now? With 12 WrestleMania's for Seth Rollins. Can they still feel bigger year in and year out, especially when you're in the main event, as you are on Saturday night? I think because the business has gotten bigger.

bigger, especially in the past few years. You know, you look back to when I came in and my first one in 2013, and then you kind of go through those years, the 14, the 15, the 16, the 17. And the business wasn't, it was sort of stagnated, right? But over the past few years, we've seen this resurgence. A lot of fans have started to come back to WWE. A lot of new fans are coming to WWE. A lot of new eyes. Now we're on Netflix, right? So we're such a... massive brand right now and there's so many eyes on the company so every single time we go out there for russomania which as you know is is our super bowl is our big event now the pressure amps up because you want to validate all the old fans coming back you want to validate all the new fans

coming and show them this is it man this is the most beautiful form of sports entertainment in the entire world and we are the very best and so the it keeps pushing forward. You always find new challenges, and WrestleMania is the Everest of those challenges. Yeah. And when you have been in the game as you've been, we've seen multiple Seth Rollins.

Internally, when you're having to recreate yourself to keep it interesting, because not everybody can do that. Not everybody can be at the main event year in and year out without giving us something different. Internally, when you're going through that process, to become Seth's freaking Rollins or to become the

architect and all these other things, how do you go through that process to make sure that it's still fresh because after all these years, you're still as viable and as valuable to the product as you've ever been. Well, I get bored too, you know.

We don't with you. Yeah, I mean, but we do. You know, you can feel it. You know, it's a sense that you get after doing it for so many years. It's not necessarily boredom, but you get that vibe like, oh, man. I want to freshen this up.

I want to do something new. I want to change my look. I want to change my tone. I want to change the way I do this or do that, the way I interact with certain characters, or the way I interact with the audience. And then you sort of just start putting stuff out there. Whatever you think might stick,

and you've got to commit to it. And then you see what the feedback is, you know, when the entrance theme is a great example. That was something that I never really imagined that it would get the response that it has and the fact that people sing it like crazy every single night still years later is something that I wouldn't have assumed when I put it together. I just thought it was a cool song and it kind of fit the vibe of what I was going for.

So it's just a matter of I like the challenge of reinventing myself. I like the challenge of seeing what the next evolution is going to be and how I can take it to the next level. And then I like to see what the response is, to see what you lovely folks give back to me. In this scenario, you know, this character kind of, started as a bad guy. Yeah, yeah. But at some point, it just took on a life of its own. And that had nothing to do

with what I was doing. That was just you guys responding to me. And so now we're in a different space. And so it's a very unique process. It's a synergy between a performer and his audience to see what you guys want and then what I can give to you. And so I love that process. I love that collaborative, artistic vibe to try to get the best, it brings the best out of me, to face what my weaknesses are and try to improve and reinvent and to get better every year that I'm in WWE. All right, guys, it's the greatest time of the year, the NBA playoffs. Look, I don't care if you watch basketball all season or not.

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Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. I was talking to someone the other day, and they said to me, did you ever take note of your career when you were in it? And I said I never did. I was always on to the next thing. So I never truly appreciated the championships, because on Monday, I was off to, who's next? Who do I get the fight the next time? Do you ever sit back, Seth, and take it all in?

Because when you're standing back there waiting to come out here, and I go, he's been a two-time world champion. He's been a five-time universal champion. Been a six-time tag champion. You know, intercontinental, United States. Do you ever sit back and go, this is much better than I ever could have imagined it going, especially when you're a person that follows the business as you have your entire life? No, you know what?

So I'm with you in the sense that it's always been very difficult for me to sit back and enjoy my success. Because I'm the same way. I just go, what's the next challenge? Yeah. Who's the next fight? Like, how do we sell tickets to tomorrow? And because our business is year-round, like, we don't really have an off-season to reflect on WrestleMania the way, say, the Philadelphia Eagles did when they win the Super Bowl. You know, we don't just get to go off to Disneyland, you know?

Yeah, shout out to the Eagles. Hey, I'm a Bears fan, man. I'm a Bears fan. No, no. You don't like the Bears. I love the Bears. How could anybody like the Bears? Oh, I'm from Iowa.

They're right there. Don't hate on me, man. You look, it's loyalty, all right? Loyalty. That's what it is. Loyalty to my family, to my people. I'm a Bears man. Through and through.

It's in my blood. I saw something that you're going to be doing some NFL stuff? Is that true? Yeah, maybe a little bit. I was able to co-host Good Morning Football a few weeks ago. I had a lot of fun doing that. Rich Eisen asked me to sub in on his show coming up. A little bit of breaking news here.

I'll give you a little breaking news. Dip, where's Dip? Where's my manager? Can I say this? I don't know. I'm saying it. So I'm going to announce a draft pick for the Chicago Bears at the upcoming draft in Green Bay here at the end of April.

Sorry, Dip, if I screwed that up. So maybe you do like the bears. I do like the bears. But to answer your question, because I think it's an important one, and I think it's a lesson that I try to instill in a lot of my students is I was a very goal-oriented person. And I attribute that mindset to a lot of my success, being able to set goals and do everything in my power within, I mean, sometimes without reason, to reach that goal. Like that was, it didn't matter how much pain I was in, what personal real. relationships I had to sacrifice, you know, what I had to do to get to the end goal, I would do it.

And I always thought when I got to those goals, those measures of success would be what would give me happiness and fulfillment. And I would reach all of them. And the WrestleMania cash in 10 years ago is a good one, right? I'm at the end of WrestleMania waving a world championship as the pyro is going off in the background. In essence, I've achieved my childhood dream. And I expected happiness. I expected fulfillment. And the next day I woke up on the, you know, going to the Today Show to talk about this match. And I didn't feel any of that. I kind of felt like an emptiness. And it took me years to fill that space.

And what I realized was it's really not about the goal. It really is about the journey. And it really is about the people and the relationships that you meet along the way and how it changes you and how they change you as a person. and those experiences and that love is what's going to fill you up and allow you to be a better person for your family. So yeah, man, it's an interesting place to be as a competitor, where you have that mindset that gets you to a certain point,

but it doesn't give you the things you expected to. It's the craziest thing. Like, when I think back on my career, the fights in the championship belts are great. I miss sitting in the gym with Kane and Kabeev and Luke and those guys after practice. Yeah. More than the belts, because it is about the journey.

Getting to that goal, it leaves you empty because you really don't have anything to chase. And that sucks, but that's what makes you great at what you do in life. And I'm the same, man. I miss the long car rides from town to town with my friends like Claudio or Mox or even Roman. I miss sitting in the car with my wife going from town to town, you know, just talking about the business and the camaraderie.

And then I miss, you know, like, the shows. Like, I love the live events. Going to the non-televised events and seeing all you guys there, whether it's in, like, you know, Paducah, Kentucky or, like, Abilene or, you know, like all these places where you just get to interact with people on a personal level and you get to see what that experience does for them. Like, that's the stuff that I love. That's the stuff that gets me, like, that's what I get off on,

not winning world championships at WrestleMania, as crazy as that might sound. So we are at WrestleMania. We are here. We are at WrestleMania. We are at the granddaddy of them all. Yeah. The show of shows. Yep.

And you guys close the night on Saturday. You versus Roman versus CM Punk. Three babyface. How does that work for all you guys to be loved by the fans, but main event against each other? And it still feel important. And we are all as invested in this as we are in Evil John Cena versus Cody Rhodes.

Well, my question to you is, are we all baby faces? Are you telling me? You guys are all good guys? Are you telling me? C.M. Punk is a good guy? See, that's what I see. Is that what we're talking about? Do you tell me, Roman Raines is a good guy?

No, what are we talking about? So you're the only good guy at a bunch? Exactly. And the thing is, I bet if you ask Cian Punk, he would tell you he's the only, good guy of the bunch. And if you asked Roman Reigns, he would tell you he's the only good guy of the bunch. And I think that right there is why you have a recipe for greatness and why I think this triple threat match is the most important triple threat match in the history of WrestleMania, maybe the history of our industry. I believe it. I truly believe that it is. Now, Seth, you guys, when you come together, magic happens, right? In so many cases, you in Roman or you and punk,

magic happens. Can you feel it when you're in there and you're going to work and you're fighting? Can you feel that you're painting the type of masterpiece that we are watching because you are known for delivering those types of matches? Well, you mentioned all of my sort of incarnations in the past, right? And I'll mention a couple of those, the architects, the visionary. Yes. Right, the Messiah. But the point is, not only can I feel when it's happening, I can see it happening before it happens. And I think that's the magic of who I am and what I bring to the table. And what I see come Saturday is one of those masterpieces, one of those game-changing, pivotal moments that's going to shape the future of this industry. You've got three top stars, baby faces if you want.

I don't think we all are. But you got punk, you got Roman, and you got Seth freaking Rollins. All of us have a different vision for what the industry should look like, for what the future should look like. But only one of us is going to be able to dictate what that future is.

And I think you're going to see something very, very special happen on Saturday. Now, Sunday, we're talking about battling for souls and all this nonsense between Sina and Cody, and they can have that. if they wanted, but to me, the real main event of this weekend, no doubt, night one, triple threat, because the future of the industry depends on it.

That's what I'm talking about right there. Seth, you and Roman have a long history. You and CM Punk have a nasty history. How easy is it to get up to fight those guys on Saturday night? You tell me we're going to have nearly 60,000 people packed into Allegiance Stadium and I get to punch Roman Rains in the face. I get to punch seeing punk in the face in front of all those folks while the lights are at their brightest.

Sign me up, D.C. That's like you get in there with John Jones, man. Oh, you know how much I hate John Jones. Let me just slap the Jesus out of him, all right? You know what I mean? You love it. You love it. Look, you know, when you get in there fighting somebody you like, there's a little bit of sympathy. There's a little bit, I don't want to hurt this guy.

A fight's a fight. We've got to do business. But when you get in there with someone that you genuinely do not like, oh man, all that feeling goes away and that violence comes out, right? Yeah. That violence, that aggression, all that pent-up stuff that you have inside that you can't do anything about in the real world, right? But you get inside that octagon in your case or in our case, the squared circle. You get inside that squared circle.

And for however long it takes to decide a winner, you get to rip these mother apart, man. There ain't no better feeling in the world. I'll tell you what. So you got some stumps loaded up. Oh, man. If you thought last Monday was good, you wait till Saturday. It's going to be a stomp city up in there. Okay, before I let you go, champ, two years ago, we were in Los Angeles.

I asked you a question about Cody Rosen. You gave me as real an answer as I've ever gotten. So I asked you about CM Punk. Is this real? Like, do you guys really have that? And if you do, how do you work with him in the way that you have been able to? Well, I'll tell you this. I am a professional through and through.

And I've said it time and time again, and I said it on Monday. I will always do what is best for business. And I think that's what separates me from CM Punk and from Roman Raines. CM Punk has proven, proven. No matter what he says to you guys, he will always do what's best for CM Punk. And if that includes taking his ball and going home and crying when he has to, that's what he's going to do. all right roman reines make no secret about the fact that he is the uh end all be all of the industry right and so he is going to do whatever it takes to make sure roman rains is at the very top i on the other hand

and you can see by what i did last year at russomania i had my knee hanging by a thread right yes my stepdad's at home he's dying of cancer and i'm there to help cody roads make sure that he beats roman reigns and takes a WWE championship home. Because I will always do what is best for you guys and for the future of this industry. And if that means that I got to put my pride aside and get in the ring with Siam Punk, then I will do that. But I will tell you this, and it's as real as it gets, I do not like Siam Punk. I do not respect Siam Punk.

I have a hard time being in the same room with him and having conversations. in his space, and I don't trust him. And I don't trust that he's back with all this good intention and that it's going to last. And so time may prove me wrong, and I am open to being wrong. But right now, I have no love loss with Siam Pong, and I will take every opportunity I can to knock him out.

Man, that is why I love you. That is why I love you. You are the man, boy, good luck on Saturday night. Guys, let's give it up for one more time For one of the greatest wrestlers of all time Thank you. Give it up for the visionary, the architect, Seth, Freakin Rollins. Hey, guys, it's us.

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