The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Draymond Green Show - Dray's Ejection vs. Magic: "I Deserved It"

Episode Date: March 28, 2024

Draymond Green reacts to the Golden State Warriors game vs. the Orlando Magic, including his two technical fouls, ejection, and Steph Curry leading the team to a big victory. Then, Dray reacts to the Houston Rockets creeping up on the Warriors and Tari Eason’s funny Instagram story. Finally, Dray gives his thoughts on Episode 2 of ‘Mind the Game’ with LeBron James and JJ Redick. 0:00 Start5:00 Ejection12:00 Tari Eason15:00 Mind the Game Produced by: Jackson Safon #volume #herdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Check that out. Let's get into this episode. The dubs win two straight on the Florida swing. Man, the Florida swing is tough this year. Orlando has gotten better. They're a playoff team. They got those young guys, which we've talked about, and Paolo and Fron, who,

I think, you know, their futures, which we'll get into in a minute. But coming down and getting those two wins, especially after a tough home stretch, was very important, especially with the standings and with Tarisans' Houston Rockets, trailing us for a play-in spot. It was an important couple games for us. And to start the trip off going to Minnesota, which was a tough loss, we led the whole way. and weren't able to close that game out in the fourth quarter. They had a big fourth quarter.

We just weren't able to close that game out. And to come down on the floor to swing where Miami is Miami, we all know who Miami is regardless of who they have on the floor. Always going to be a tough game. Bam's playing great basketball. And, you know, Miami, he just always found those guys. Hey, Will Highsmith was getting off. I'm not sure where he came from.

What's his backstory? But he's just another one of those guys that Miami have found. And then coming into Orlando, a team that young team who's always motivated to play against us, coming in on the back-to-back, which is always tough. It's like it's almost Orlando on a back-to-back, Orlando on the front of a back-to-back, like it's always something. And I hate that it always gets scheduled like that. But that is the nature of it.

I think that'll start to change as Orlando keep. getting better. You're going to have these young guys in the playoffs this year. And I'm not sure if you all know, but the NBA schedule is based on a national TV schedule. So the national TV, ESPN, T&T, ABC, they all get to pick the games that they want. And then the schedule is filled in around that. Obviously, we've had a million national TV games over the last 10 years due to the Steph Curry effect. and Orlando hasn't had a bunch of them. I think they have one this year.

But so in theory, like the Orlando game always just get kind of slid onto the schedule around Miami, which is normally a national TV game. So it just kind of always gets slipped in there because you're on the Florida swing. And it just always makes it a tough game. Like I said, I think as these young guys continue to show and become household names in this league, like I think Paulo Ben Carroll will, which I said years ago before he was drafted, always been a big fan of Paulo Ben Carroll, thought he was undoubtedly the number one pick in his draft.

He's shown that, continues to grow, had a conversation with Gary Harris, who's my young fellow, Michigan State, go green, go white. And Gary was confirming to me more of what I thought, which is like, no, Apollo is a serious guy. He's mature. Doesn't quite act like he's 21 years old. And he says something to me that I don't doubt one bit and that I thought from the beginning,

which was, yeah, Dre, he'll probably be an all-star the rest of his career. Like, he's just figuring it out. And as he figures it out, it's like he's more and more motivated. And there's already a motivated kid. Like, he's from Seattle. We know the roots. that's been laid there. We know his upbringing. We know he's had guys like Jamar,

Nate, you know, and Brandon, like all of those guys around just to show you how to be a pro. And so with Paulo, he already got a leg up in that aspect, which is huge, especially coming to a team that don't really have many veterans. They got G, which I think to have Gary Harris around, it's big for that team because G is a stable guy. He's been in the league for 10 years now. He's well respected by everybody in the league, and he's a pro. And so I think that's great for those guys, you know, having Joe Engels this year. But, you know, and just having a young team like that with not many veterans, that upbringing is huge for Paulo because in a sense you, you've already been shown what

it's like to be a pro. And that is the benefit of having guys like Jamar Crawford from your city that's giving back to the young guys and showing them the way. And so I think this team. will become a household name, you know, as the years go and those guys continue to get better. And hopefully that game won't be slid in to the schedule like it's always been. It's almost like it's not a priority. And it makes it tough.

And we've had a tough go here. And so it was good to get win last night. However, I got ejected four minutes into the game. Just can't do it. Regardless of what was said, I'm not about to get into what was said. because that's irrelevant to Steph's point. I have to be on the floor. Whatever that means, you just have to do that.

I look at this. I'm not overreacting to this because of everything that happened in the beginning of the season. You know, I feel like since I've returned, everything's headed in the right direction and hit a little bump in the road, get over it, and keep going. Extremely grateful that my guys help me down. It's a very important game for us

and for them to go out and get a win. and Trace played unbelievable basketball. Andrew Wiggins took over the game in the fourth quarter, and Steph Curry sent to everybody night night as he does. Clay Thompson, tough back-to-back, man, you know, playing 30-plus minutes, starting for the first time in a long time, at Miami coming out, getting 28, then coming back the next night, and giving us huge minutes, knocking shots down, spacing the floor.

Clay got off to a really good start, which got us going, got us out running, hit some shots, got out in transition. And that changed everything. I thought it was huge to see Clay back into the lineup. Not that BP did anything wrong. You know, sometimes you just need something different. And we all know what Clay brings to the table. What Clay brings to the table, nobody else brings to the table in the history of basketball.

There's facts to back that up. You know, 60 and three quarters, 37 and a quarter. No one in history brings that to an NBA. a game. So with what Clay brings, it just brings a different thing. And we saw it shine through in a major way these last two games.

And that's a big call from Steve Kerr. Huge call from Steve Kerr. That's coaching at his finest right there. You're talking because when certain things like that happen where Clay goes to the bench, right, that's a monumental move. Everybody's talking about it.

First time in 12 years, he's come off the bench, blah, blah, blah. When you do things like that, not that Steve stuck his foot in his mouth, but in theory, you kind of stick your foot in your mouth because now it's a big story. And so then when you go back to it, it's like, oh, look at that. And so many people would be afraid to go back to it

just for that reason. And that's why I always say, like, Steve is unbothered by anything. Like, he's unfazed. So most coaches would be like, but we went away from it and now what are they going to say a babba they're going to pick this apart Steve doesn't get off

and Steve is just going to make the best decision for the team at all times and the beauty of that we were talking remember we were talking a couple episodes ago around Memphis and how you can follow your coach the beauty in that is that is the unfazed ness by Steve

the unbotheredness that is that by Steve where it's just like I'm unbothered by anything I'm just standing these moments making these decisions And that's just because he's never rattled by anything. That's all a product of that. And so, I said, man, that's coaching.

That's coaching at his finest. That's why Steve Curry is who he is. That's why he is the highest paid coach in NBA history. That's why he has four championships in, what was it? What was it? Four championships in 10 years or something like that? Like, that's why he is one of the most winningest people in basketball history. four championships as a coach five as a player.

One of the most winning is people in NBA history. That's why, because he's just unfazed. And the move like that jolt us, and all of a sudden we, two games on this road trip. Obviously, like I said, the Minnesota one got away. But it sets us up to possibly have a four-on-one road trip. If we go take advantage and that's a huge trip coming off the homestand that we had

and at this point in the season. So shout out to Stevie Kerr. big move getting Clay Thompson back in that game. And yeah, back to getting kicked out the game. It just can't happen. I said what I said, I deserve to get kicked out at that point. And what I said, if I'm all the way honest with y'all, I kind of was trying to turn my body and angle and go to the bench.

And I said what I said, like a little too soon before angling my body to the bench. But, yeah, it just can't happen. And, you know, that, like, we need to win. game. So like I said, not going to overreact like, oh, man, like stuff is never as good as it seems. It's never as bad as it seems. Like, I know where I am. I understand what I'm doing moving for. And in my position, just make sure that that's the exception and not the rule. And so moving on. And like I said, shout out to my brothers for holding me down and getting that win, need to go get a couple more wins.

The wins were big because of the playoff race. Everyone's been blowing my phone up, so I must speak about this. Because of the playoff race, Tari Easton had comments. Now, as you all know that our fans of this show, Draymond Green Show, I am a big Tari Eastern fan. Why would he come out and make a video telling the Warriors to come out and play? Everybody in Houston had a heart attack when he did that, because that's just,

that's, Houston is a tough place to talk to us, you know, like, when you look at Memphis and what, what happened

with Memphis a couple years ago, um, like that, Memphis was already a tough place to talk to us. Like, when you lose to a team in the playoffs, when it matters the most, and like,

especially at the height of, like, you know, with them dubs with, like, the height, when you lose, like,

it's tough to talk to us because that's what matters. And so, when you see, start talking, everybody just look back like, bro, you can't talk to them because of that. And so shout out to the young fella, you know, coming out, talking about warriors, come out and play. We need to get him, and, you know, he got to come to the bay and get in sync better with that. Because, you know, the chant, it's a little more async than he was.

But, like I said, a part of the reason that I like Tar Easton is that he would come out and do that. Like, that's, when I saw it, I wasn't surprised at all. I am a little surprised that he hasn't played in the game since January 1st. And so it's kind of tough to come out, yell at come out and play, and you're not going to play. It puts a lot of strain on your guys. Like, you can't get out there and help them. But I respect it. I respect it.

I mean, it's a big moment for their franchise. You know, they're on the trails of the play in. It's a big moment for the franchise, so I get it. It's been a while. But I'm telling you, it's a lot of people in Houston, the city of Houston, which I love Houston, by the way. It's a great city. Love the place.

A lot of people that are scratching their head like, Come on, Tari. We've seen this movie. before. So I thought that was funny. Nothing more, nothing less, and that's why we were running. Now, moving back to where we were headed, which is the mind of game. Like I said, those guys, JJ and Braun, they break it down the game. They're breaking down action. They're having a high-level basketball conversation that, quite frankly, most people probably won't understand. But they're doing a good job of breaking it down to you. And I saw them talking about our

split cuts. When Steve introduced this concept of the split cuts. It took a while to build the chemistry on it because it's a field thing. And so it's all read and react. If I do this and they do that, then you do this. And if they do that, then loop moots. And it's like a quarterback reading. Like, you got your first read, you got your second read.

You got your third read. You got your fourth read. The interesting thing about it is, like, it layers and layers and layers. And as time has went on, we've just, just layered the split cut more and more. It started as just a pin-in, guy come off, guy died. There are so many other layers to the split cuts now because, like, again, it's like a progression of a quarterback. Like you've read your, all right, next guy, next guy, up. You see sometimes, like, a quarterback come to go across the field, scanning their progressions,

come all the way back. Like, that's like the split cut, which is why I enjoy being the pastor in the split cut, because it's just fun. Like, you're watching everything develop from the lowest point of the floor. Like, you're lower than just about everybody. And now, at times, you got that guy on the weak side, which Brown was talking about KD, where you can skip to the weak side shooter. But you always want that guy to lift some to give you that angle to pass it. So in theory, you are the lowest guy on the floor. And if you think about that from a defensive perspective, the lowest guy on the floor is the most important guy on the floor. Why? Because he's the back line of the defense. He sees everything. And so in the split cut, I'm the lowest guy on the floor when I'm

the passer, I can see everything develop. And sometimes you just see the breakdown happening. He's like, okay, okay, I'm about to get him. Oh, boop got him. There it goes. And, you know, that's been a staple in our offense since Steve Kerr came 10 years ago. And like I said, when he first put the split cuts in, it was one of those things. And it goes back to the ball movement that he incorporated in our offense, which was like,

you know, Steve, you got us like keep passing the ball. but like Stephen Clay's supposed to get a lot of shots. And I remember very clearly him saying, the guys who's supposed to get the shots are good. The ball's going to find him. And we all like, man, going with that, Steve, man, that ain't going to work. What you're talking about?

And sure enough, we started to pick that offense up over the first over the first over weeks and you're like, man, the ball really finds Stefan Clay. Like, it was very interesting. And the split cuts were kind of the same thing. Like I said, it's just been layer of building. And to Brian's point, when KD came, I don't even think it was necessarily about putting a shooter on that weak side. Because, number one, KD is far more than just a shooter.

KD scores that basketball. But that definitely makes a difference. But even if you don't have a shooter on that weak side, we also came up with another couple things that even if it wasn't a shooter on that weekside, you can still skip it to that guy and move on to the next action. And so that's, again, that's the layers of it. And there's plenty of layers to it. But, yeah, now, Brian caught a lot of hell with them split cuts over the years. You know, Brian liked to play quarterback. And to his point, he's like, you got to watch his eyes.

Sometimes you got to look Brown off a little bit and boom. And it's always fun with having that chess match with Brian because he is like Ed Reed over there, best free safety ever. I can't really, I feel like I'm an incredible free safety myself. but Braun is a great free safety and obviously he reads the game as well as anyone and he's over there, he's always trying to get to the backside of that split and put himself in the help.

But there's been ways to manipulate Bronch too in the backside because you know he's trying to read it all. So it gets interesting, but the split cuts are a staple, they're tough to guard. And like I said, one of the reasons that it's toughest thing to guard is because it's just a read and reacting. like so you can't quite script it. Like in an NBA defense, you script what you want to give up.

You know, you're like, we're taking this away, this, this, this, and this. But the reality is the NBA, so you can't take away everything. So you have to choose like, all right, if we're going to lose to them, we're willing to die by this. It sometimes teams kill you with that. But more often than not, you're going to win if you execute that plan. And with the split cuts, you can discuss what the patterns are, the end of the day, once it starts happening, it's still on your players to read the situation

and react to what's happening. And as they're reading, it's a lot of moving pieces coming around and they're trying to make those reads and it gets tough. And so, yeah, it was cool to see Brian and JJ discuss the splits knowing the hell that it's caused Brian over the years. Although I'm like Tyreece and now they beat us in the playoffs last year. So maybe I shouldn't talk. No, that go, that battle go too far back. that ain't stopping one playoff loss. But yeah. So shout out to them with that.

You know, me looking at the NBA, I think when I think of the toughest actions to guard in the NBA, what would they be? Anytime you put somebody in a single-side tag situation, that's always tough. That would be like, say, if I'm Stefan, I'm on the left side of the floor, you got Drayman rolling in a set of screen,

and he's diving steps coming off to his right hand and you got Clay on the same side of the floor that the screen is now going away from, which means that puts Clay's man in a single-side tag position, single-side meaning there's one guy over there so you don't have another guy to X-out in what we call. So if there's two guys on that side, if one guy go help,

the one guy has to drop a bit and take the first pass out and play two. if you put a guy on a single side, there's no X. So you have to make that guy go tag the roller. So it would be me rolling or Trace rolling or J.K. rolling or J.K. rolling or somebody rolling. That guy is put in a situation where he has to go tag the roller, meaning go in and bump the roller. So ideally, you want him to start in. Because you start in, it's a one-way close-out, meaning I start there, I get my bump. I start the exit as I get my bump.

that makes your clothes out shorter. The reality is you put a guy like Clay Thompson on the weak side and you're not starting in because you're scared as hell to leave his body. And so that's single side tag. To me, that's always one of the toughest actions to guard because you just put that guy in a blender. And he got to figure out how I can get this tag

and get back to the shooter. And if it's Clay Thompson who only need that much space to get a shot off, it makes it tough on that single side tag. And then you just, you kind of play with Clay, you move them up and down, you know, higher up in the slot, you know, on the wing, to the corner. Like, you move that guy based on where you want the tag to be or not to be to make that tag tougher and a longer closeout. So to me, I think that's always going to be one of the toughest actions to guard

just because it's no help. You put guys in a two-on-one situation in the NBA. The two-on-one should win out more often than not. And so I think for me that's one that I will look at and I would say are one of the toughest actions to guard. But yeah, that was from Mind the Game, episode two. I'm a tossing to Jackson for a mailback segment before we get out of here and I head on make our way to Charlotte. All right. Let's start with from at Jake Steak, Caitlin Clark was offered $5 million from I,

Cube to join the big three over the summer, do you think she should take that? I mean, it depends on what the goals are, right? Like, Caitlin Clark is going to make plenty of money. So there's no need to money grab. What's the downside of that? The downside of that is Kaylin Clark going to play in the big three. And those guys in the big three, like, it's not, like, sorry, basketball players in the big three.

It's guys that's playing the NBA. it's guys that are still actively playing overseas. Like, these guys get into it in the big three. If Kailen Clark doesn't perform well due to that, then what's the conversation? And so I think it does more harm than good for Katelyn Clark. I think it'd be groundbreaking for Ice Cube to get her in the big three. I think there's a zero percent chance that it happens

because Katelyn Clark would need percentage of the lead because that's the only way it can make, Like, it only makes sense if, like, the amount of money that she can make grows and, like, you can't put a cap to it. But for her just to take $5 million to do what comes with that, it just doesn't make sense. That also falls during the NBA season. So how is she going to play? So logistically, it just doesn't make sense.

So does she opt out to the WNBA and go play in the Big Three? Maybe one day the Big Three reaches that point. I don't think it quite makes sense right now unless you make that a financial thing. where she can make a bunch of money. But $5 million, unfortunately, is just not enough. It doesn't make sense. And I'm sure whoever is behind Caitlin Clark is thinking about building a brand, not grab some money.

You're looking to grab some money and you're Caitlin Clark. Caitlin Clark should fire you today. If you're representing Caitlin Clark, and you're like, hey, Caitlin, by the way, I got this. Katelyn Clark probably should fire you for bringing that idea to her. because you shouldn't even put that idea in front of Kaylin Clark's face.

The amount of money that Kaylin Clark has made and is going to make makes no sense for her to risk that. And I'm a big Ice Q fan and want to see the league do well, but just giving you the truth as you know you're going to get on a Draymond Green show, that made just not enough money for Clayland. Caitlin Clark, the risk isn't worth the reward. And Kalin Clark is growing at WMBA in the women's game. And the only way Caitlin Clark can continue to grow to win his game is to go play in the WMBA,

not playing the big three. So that's my spill on that. All right. Next question from at Samel, the league needs more Draymond Green type of players. All this friendly stuff isn't good for the game. It takes away the competitiveness. What are your thoughts on that? I mean, I'm never going to argue what you're saying.

The league need more me, but in saying that I think the game is very competitiveness. I think regardless of guys are friends or not, you're going to compete. Like, I always go back to Brian. Me and Brian are great friends. I want to take his head off every time we play. Like, that's just the reality. He want to take my head off. It's not literal.

Like, meaning I want to do whatever I ought to do to win. He wants to do whatever you got to do to win. Doesn't affect our friendship. Michael Jordan and Charles Barkley was friends in the 90s. Like, guys were friends. They golfed together. other before games. There's just this logic of friendships just start in the NBA. Stop. Like, you just see them on social media more. Those guys didn't have social media. You didn't know their

lives. You get to see more of our lives. So you think, and then the older guys fall into the trap, like, oh, they're friends. Like, y'all have been friends too, man. Like, you don't just play in this league and not pick up friends along the way. Like, it doesn't make sense. So, yeah, Guys been friends in the NBA, and they've been competing forever, and guess what? Guys are going to continue to be friends in the NBA, and you're going to continue to compete, and that ain't changing anything. So I don't think it's the friendships that are stopping physical playing in the NBA. What stops more physical playing in NBA are the rules.

Rules are rules. That's what stops physicality in the NBA. It's not that, oh, man, Jason Tatum, my friend. It's my little bro, of course. Guess what? When we play in NBA finals, I didn't say hi. him the whole time. He didn't say hi to me the whole finals. And then after we hugged, what's up, bro? I miss you. Dang, it was bothering me not talking to you. Like, it's my brother.

Yes, great. Guess what? Did that change anything with how I went at him, how he went at me, how Boston France treated me because me and J. No, it didn't change anything. So the whole theory just doesn't make sense. If anything, I want to beat you more. Because guess what? J.T. is going be at my wedding that summer. And I'd rather be the champion walking into my wedding, the JT being the champion walking. Like, you got all of these things that go on in our minds.

That's not stopping no competition. So people got to stop with that. That changes nothing. What changes physicality in the NBA are simply the rules. That's a great answer. Before we get to the last question, reminder to everyone to subscribe to our YouTube channel. We got a couple very, very cool

interviews coming up. But to close out, let's go from at JJ6 IX Dreimon, do you think that you are misunderstood? Do I think I'm misunderstood, of course. But so is everyone else that the world judges and don't know. So I don't look at myself like, oh, y'all misunderstood this of me.

And like, look at me, I'm misunderstood. Like Steph Curry's misunderstood simply because you don't know him. LeBron James is misunderstood simply because you don't know him. So the reality is with the jobs that we do, do. We're in front of a camera all the time. There's always something going on. There's always talk around us. There's all of these things. And so it's in your face. When something is always in your face, it's only a natural thing to feel like you know it. You know them. You know. And the reality is you don't. You see what you see and that's it. There's entirely different

and other layers to that person than what you get the opportunity to see. So, Am I misunderstood? Absolutely, but so is just about every other guy in NBA. I don't take that ass. Man, they're picking on me and I'm misunderstood or anything like that. We're all misunderstood simply because our lives are on display in a very small way. But in people's face, you see it all the time. So in your mind, it's just like that's our life and that's what's on display to you.

But the reality is it's not. And basketball is not the only thing in any of it. our lives. So the reality is we're all misunderstood. That is going to be a wrap from this episode of the Draymond Green Show. Appreciate the questions. Next time we go live, there will continue to be mailbag segments. Got another episode dropping next week. That'll be a fun one. It'll be a great one. Owner of an NBA team coming through the Draymond Green Show. Make sure y'all check that out. Until next time, that's a wrap. Peace.