The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Draymond Green Show - Finals Game 1 Reaction w/ Danny Green #ChampsOnly

Episode Date: June 7, 2024

Danny Green joins the show for the first game of our #ChampsOnly NBA Finals breakdowns. Danny and Draymond discuss the Boston Celtics win over the Dallas Mavericks, how the Celtics defended Luka Doncic and Kyrie Irving. They also discuss the Los Angeles Lakers coaching search with JJ Redick and Dan Hurley, and why the Golden State Warriors can still be contenders.  0:00 Start 6:00 Celtics set the tone 11:00 Defense on Luka/Kyrie 22:00 Lakers coaching rumors 32:00 Warriors future Produced by: Jackson Safon #Volume #herdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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he beat us in the championship and I am honored to welcome none other three-time champion Danny Green, welcome to the show, my brother. I appreciate you, man. I appreciate you having me. I'm glad that there's some type of love on that side of the coast,

or I guess in the Bay Area. And I was asked earlier today, I was doing a radio hit. It's like, is any organization that hate you and I couldn't think of one until they tweeted out that I was on your show? And I'm like, damn. I know there's only one organization,

brother, if the fans are like, nah, they ain't messing with it. But, you know, I understand, you know, I get it five years ago.

I was hoping some of them forgot about it or let it go. I'm not a dirty place. I can't imagine how it is being the villain every night in every arena. So a lot of flowers.

Kudos to you, brother, because I just have one organization that's because I was thinking about teams where I've left and they might have booed me. And actually they all received me pretty well. But the only one that does not like me

that much at all is Golden State fans. But, you know, I still, a lot of love to the fans everywhere. So no love of loss. And, you know, for us, is no love loss. Obviously, we know you're not a dirty player. Play has happened, bro. When you're competing on an NBA finals level, on a championship level, I get it.

Like two points changes everything. And by the way, you know, unfortunate, you know, that Clay got hurt. like love Clay to death and like none of us are ever trying to hurt anybody. It's very unfortunate. But like basketball is also very much so a game of inches, just like football. And if you come up with that block, what it does for y'all from a momentum standpoint in a game where we really had the momentum.

What that does for y'all from a momentum standpoint if you get that block, it changes everything. For sure. I mean, you know how, you know how. critical everything matters, man, from loose balls to down on floor, block, steel. And today's game, and we're going to get to that. There's a lot of guys, a lot of plays that stuck out to me that started the momentum for Boston. And it wasn't necessarily the stars.

You know, I'm watching the others. And I'm sure you are too. But I really think Al Horford kind of set the tone for them tonight. And he's the one that came out first basket dunk, hit three ball. And then I think everybody kind of follows suit. Houser, another guy, hitting three ball, timely. You get up that big. So Dallas found something.

They cut it to eight. But those guys set the tone. Then, of course, Porzingis, it was just unbelievable night. First game back in weeks, a couple months. But it was an interesting game to watch. I think it's going to be a fun series. I can't wait to see what comes next.

It was a very fun series. I think it's going to be a very fun series. It's a very fun game to watch. One thing that I want to keep my eye on is Porzingis. And the reason I want to keep my eyes on Porzengis is like that first game back, like you riding that high, emotions through the roof, you feeling good, like, adrenaline going crazy. After that, when you no longer can ride off the emotions and you got to ride off of the work

that I've put in, not saying he hasn't put the work in, but your work has been limited, reason you've been out, you know, and so when you then got to rely back on that and not necessarily the juice of like, I'm back out here. I want to see how he respond, you know, how that comes about, you know, like, because I think that's going to be, like, he was huge for them tonight. I know you got a Boston fan on staff there. They play well tonight. Hell of a win for him.

But Dallas found some things. I wouldn't be too confident after watching the time's game. Kai didn't have a great game. And I don't think the energy said, Porzankis is going to be able to sustain that. Like you said, everybody has their group chaps. Everybody's playing GM. Everybody's watching and criticized. And they're like, yo, poor Zings had a hell of the game,

but there's no way he can sustain that. There's no way he can keep that energy. He had three blocks in the first quarter. And that's where I was watching more so is what he's going to do with defense men. And he stopped the lob for Dallas. That was a key thing for Dallas. And, you know, Kai and Luca weren't able to get to the room as easy or, you know, find lively and gaffer for lobs.

That's a big change. But I think Dallas is going to find something. You know, J.K. is going to find something. They switched. They didn't trap as much. I didn't see many of that. Both teams switched. And they're going to take advantage of that.

Luca took him a quarter to settle in. But once he's settled in, he's found some. He knows where he's at. Now, Kai just has to settle in. Once that happens, so we're going to have a series, man. It's going to be a real series. I agree with that. You know, funny enough, I thought, and in my prediction,

I said that Dallas will lose this game. And the reason I thought that they will lose this game. this game was because the Celtics, like, and I played against this team. You're their length, and you've played against them through the years. The lane, like Jason Tatum is 16, Jalen Brown is 6-8, Drew is 6-5, Derek White, 6-5, Al Horford, 6-10, 6-11. When you have that much length on the floor, there's no gaps, right? And they switch, they load up, right?

When you, Porzig is seven feet. Even Sam Hauser come off the bench, six, nine. Like, the only guy that they play that's under six five is Peyton Pritchard, and he don't play much. Yeah. When you have that type of length and you can speak to it, like, that was kind of our team for all those years. That was your team in Toronto.

You, Kauai. Only guy that played that was smaller than that, Fred and Fred and Cal and. We have Pascal. Kyle is different. Kyle play way bigger than his size, right? Like, but you got Pascal, you got you, you got Boucher. Like, Surge, Sirge, Marcusol. Yeah, we had Norm come up the bench.

We had OG didn't even play, but we had OG on that roster. But we had a really good defensive squad and we figured it out. But like you said, that defensively, they have a lot of link. The only thing with Boston, I said, I'm not confident because you know how they live and die. by the three. Yes, they came out very hot, and they're always going to have a game or two where it's going to be dry, you know what I'm saying?

They're going to be cold. So when that happens, we're going to see if that defensive, Porzingis can continue to protect the rim and if they can stay in a game. But ultimately, they're going to drop a game or two just because they're not going to shoot well. And then if Dallas can steal a game or two,

a game or so, just because they play well and they limit them, this is going to be a six-seven game series, man. I agree. It's what we've been looking for for a while because, you know, finals hasn't been... Actually, no, I'm tripping. Finals has been pretty good since I won y'all had six games

before that and went to, you know, six games. So it's been pretty good. It's a good match-up. For sure. So tell me this. So coming into this game, as a coach, when you get to this level and you know it,

you got to pick something that's going to be you. And it is very evident what Boston said today, is going to beat us, meaning Luca, we're not helping on your drives. We force you to dry

and we're not helping take the layup. You're going to have to score 70 or 60. 60, so go ahead. You're going to try to beat us by yourself. One assist.

Luca has. That's unheard of. Luca got one assist. Do you think that game plan from Dallas, I mean, excuse me, from Boston, where they kept

those other guys out tonight and gave up what they gave up to Luca? Do you think that continues to work or what would your adjustment be if you're the Dallas Mavericks on how to get the other guys involved? You know, we were talking before you got on, you were saying how blowouts are never a good

thing and never an advantage for the team that won because a lot of times you just don't make the adjustments. You're like, oh, it worked, but you should have a backup because obviously the team that loss is going to make plenty adjustments and you need to make sure you have adjustments for their adjustments. I don't think it's going to work. It worked early. Jaylon Brown played great defense early. First half, fucking Luke. a couple of times making a physical. Al Horford even contested, blocked a shot or two.

Like, that's not going to be sustainable for the seven game series. Al Horford, and those guys switching on to Kai and Luca is not going to work. I think they're going to have to change up. Once Luca gets going early, they're going to probably try to trap himself.

If Kai gets in the rhythm, Kyle just had a very off night. You know what I'm saying? When you have both those threats going, the other guys are just going to open it up. You can't just stay home and let those guys kill you because they will kill you and they can win games. It reminds me not to bring back bad memories for you guys,

but when Brian and Kai, you don't see that often with guys, two guys can beat you. It's a fact. They did it, and then these two guys have the talent enough to beat you with just those two guys. So ultimately, I think Boston has got to have an adjustment. They're not probably going to make it right now or right away. It might take a loss to figure that out, but you don't want to take a loss going back to Dallas. You want it to be one-one going into Dallas. Absolutely.

No, I agree 100%. Like, and you can tell Kai was having an off game. Kyle dribbled the ball off his shoe. Yeah. Like, he, Kai don't lose the ball. Never happened. Sometimes if he lose it, that's his best thing. Yeah, like, so you could tell it was off.

And I think for him, too, like, for him, I think also he has to make the emotional adjustment, right? Like, you go back in this place, NBA finals where they were expecting you to bring them the NBA finals. Now you going back there. Like, what's that like emotionally going back to a place where you've played and, like, this is the NBA final. So this is an even different thing. Like, I think he has to adjust emotionally as well. And this is why I was like, it depends on what, and we look at Kyle, like, you know, Kai is great. And I'm like, even though Kai is kind of the strongest mentally, mental, you know, tougher guys in the league, no matter who you are, going back to a place you played before is not easy.

The emotions just, you just never know how it's going to turn out. And you've never experienced for it, I hope you never have to. But if you leave a place and you've been there for a long time and you go back and try to play there, even if they don't boo you, because we've went back when I was with Kauai in Toronto, they booed the hell out of Kauai. They cheered for me. They still cheered for me, which was cool. But I don't think I've ever had a, I haven't had a good game in San Antonio since I left there. You know, it's just not easy to do. And it's just like adrenaline, it might take it the wrong.

We might shoot too much. You know what I'm saying? like you just never know how the emotions are going to make you play. It make you play really well. I feel like there's no in between. You're either going to play really good or fuck shitty. It's going to be a really bad game. So I've had some good games against San Antonio at my home team.

Okay. Arena, but just not in San Antonio. And it's just one of those places. It's just hard to settle in. It's hard to feel comfortable. Or you feel too comfortable. It's like, damn, I don't know why shots aren't dropping. But I knew it was going to take him a game or a quarter at least a half to, like, let those emotions kind of still settle,

even though it's been removed, still didn't leave in a great way. And I can imagine playing your former team on this stage of how high, you know, you want to do well so badly that it, you know, it may counterproductive, may affect you differently.

So either way it's a, I think Kai's going to settle in, he'll be fine. But it's just not an easy place or easy situation to be in, bro. And I said, I hope you never have to experience it

because it can get ugly for you. And you'd be like, damn, you can be thinking about it all night, all day, all year. and said Cots mentally tough hell bounce back, but you just never know. I got my fingers crossed. I hope never experienced. And you know what just dawned on me and thinking about you fucking beat me in the NBA

I mean in the NCAA championship too. I just thought about that. We go back, bro. We go back to some time. We go back some time, bro, since college, yes. I've been fortunate enough to have some really good teams and some good teammates. I said I had Tyler, I had Ty, had Wayne, you know what I'm saying? And then so when I was in San Antonio, y'all were like, said, of course, you know, Steve came from there,

or Mike Brown came from there. So y'all were like a little brother. And eventually there's only been a matter of time for y'all start kicking our ass. And we knew it. And we got old. We got older. And then, you know, yeah, y'all were playing five out. Y'all changed the whole league to small ball.

And it was like, damn, I don't think we can, I don't think we played Timmy in the series. I don't think we could play Timmy in the series. We had to sit him. And, yeah, we had a chance. We had a shot. Then y'all got KD. We had Marcus and Y and then Y'i when he had the ankle go down. it was over for that.

It was tough. Yeah, we've gone back for some time now, bro. 15 years now. 15, 16 years we've been competing, bro. It's crazy. Do you still wish to play right now? Or, like, do you think this is it for you? You just, by the way, you do an incredible,

I enjoy watching you on TV, bro. I appreciate you, bro. I appreciate you. You don't need that for me, but I just enjoy watching. I fucking hate watching a lot of people on TV, but I really enjoy watching you on TV. As nuts as I'm not a fan of Duke guys, there's siren guys that are good on TV.

And JJ was one of them because he backs us. You know what I'm saying? And I was like, make sure that we, you know, we can criticize guys, but not tear him down. And regardless of that, you know, I wanted, if I can criticize you, I want to be able to do that and be in that space. And I still have a lot to learn. I'm learning from everybody when I do it. Even you. You know what I'm saying?

Thank you. You handle yourself very well, bro. And for me, it's like, I know I got to slow down. I talk too slow. I talk too fast. I got to slow down. I got to be louder. try to make some good points.

Like you're really good at that. Grabbing the viewers' attention, making some good points, you know what I'm saying? Dropping some bars, dropping some gems. People like, oh, Joe, Dre got some bars with them, you know what I'm saying? So I'm learning from everybody.

So it's been great for me. It's a new challenge. People don't understand how different it is and can be fun, but also how it's not easy. You know, it's not easy to do with people are doing it. So much respect to all those guys that do it at a high level and grab people's attention and do as a profession.

So, no, for me, man, I'm still trying to hoop, bro. Respect. Just unfortunate this year, I was with Philly training camp. I thought I had a really good training camp. And to me, it showed me that, like, I can still hoop. You know what I'm saying? It was like, you know, I still belong here. I still can hoop.

I still play. But James wanted out. Trade happened. They brought in more guys than they sent out. And my contract wasn't guaranteed. You know, me and Darrell had a situation or whatever. So they were talking about Nick Nurse, wanted to bring me back. It just didn't happen.

But I feel like I have another, you know, a few years left, a couple of years left to who, you know, because I can do TV at any moment. We can do that. We're 40, 50 years old. And I thought about it. Now, if something comes along where it's like, all right, they give me a deal or a certain type of network, it's like, we want you. And they like to hang it up, it's going to take some more. But, like, I'm not married to the NBA. If I really want to play badly, also the conversation with the wife, I just had a little one.

If she wants to play, if she's okay with travel, because going somewhere else to another country, I don't know. But it's like, yeah, we only got two more years, maybe three more years left of this of hooping. And miles will make the most of it. If you want to live in a nice country, it has to make sense, though, if I go overseas, it has to be a really nice country where you live in well. But if not, give another shot here, play, see what happens. But, you know, ultimately, transitioning, man, just adapt and adjusting and learning the media game and, you know, making sure that I have something, because I'm not going to be one of those type of guys work.

I mean, we all want to save to where we don't have to work, but I just can't see myself sitting at all. home and not doing a damn thing. I'm saying I got to be doing something, bro. I've got to find a purpose other than, you know what I'm saying, with the kids and coaching them, of course. But I can't just be at home and be in a, you know, a house dad or a house husband. But yeah, ultimately, I still want to play. Hopefully somebody will give me another opportunity and another shot.

But if they were to see me play and see me work out, they'd be like, you know what, he can still, he can still hoop. He can still move. And I think I could, you know, help a team. But you feel healthy. I'm healthy, bro. I think I'm two years out now. I was pretty, I felt really healthy this past year, too, it was a training

with Philly one really good. Okay. But yeah, just the luck of the, I mean, cars just didn't play out that way. You know, how teams with the taxes, the cap, you know, teams are scared. People don't want to go into the bracket, you know, the second, second apron, whatever.

Yeah. Just a lot of that, the politics come into play. So, you know, just how it plays out sometimes. Yeah, no doubt. I respect that, man. A lot of people don't understand, like, they're like, oh, your contract would be this. Like, now I've been in the league this amount of year.

So my number looks different than a guy if you bring in in their second year, that number looks totally different. And what it does for the cap, people don't understand that. They're like, oh, man, like, he can't hoot no more. Like, no, he can't hoop for sure. Like, and they don't understand the numbers and, like, how it works and the taxes and stuff. For sure.

Just I pray that you don't, well, you can't fight getting old, but just don't ever get hurt, man. When you get hurt and you're old, the league just, they forget about you, or they just like, ah, you know, your time is up. They ain't kind of really messing with it. They'd rather find a younger guy, groom him, and they said it's cheaper. So they're cheaper the younger. But yeah, man, I hope you don't have to.

But I feel like for everybody, it's always like a culture shock, trying to figure it out, trying to navigate. Me and you were kind of tapping into other things, but most guys don't know what to do after. That's a fact. And a lot of things, people were taking your statement out of context. I feel like when you're talking about, you know, the league doesn't really set us up to be wealthy after.

You know, you talk about the fines and things like that. I think it's more so like that type of situation, but also the lifestyle doesn't set you up for, you know what I think? I think that's more of the point that people are missing. It's like, you're making a lot of money, but when you make a lot of money,

ultimately your bills are just going to become more naturally. You make $5 million a year. You're going to have $500,000 bills, maybe a million. You make $10 million. It's going to be a million or $2 million. You make $20. You probably have like $2 million dollars bills. Now you may save up $40, 50 when you're done,

but if you don't work and you got $3 million bills per year, your bills are $3 million per year, you got 10, 20 years to make it last. That's about it. But you still got to live to 80. But everybody else, they don't realize you have to get a job to at least cover the bills, get another job where at least covers $2,000 or $3 million. You go let that save. You want generational wealth for your kids to have it.

You know, you can find a job to cover the bills. A lot of guys don't prepare for that. So they don't have a job when they're done to cover the bills. Ultimately, they're not broke, but it's only a matter of time before that money runs out in about 10 years. And, you know, you don't hit you until you're done playing. you realize how expensive shit is. Like, damn, that wasn't expensive when I was playing,

but when I'm done playing, the checks ain't coming. Damn, fuck, that costs that much. When you're trying to budget, it's a different thing, man. So I'm glad I'm going through it. I'm glad I'm learning it. Then I was prepared for it. I had vets that taught me, like, yo, try to tap into this and have other things to fall back on.

And I have a lot of opportunities. People called, like, seeing if I wanted to do coaching interviews. And I'm like, I'm not ready yet. Do media. So, yeah, I've been blessed, man, to be around some great people and some good organizations that give me opportunities for after basketball as well. No doubt, man. That's great to hear. Switching gears a little bit

as a player who's like you said, you know, want to do it, still can do it, probably will still continue to do it. But it's closer to the end than you are the beginning as I am. And I understand it as a former player, the opportunities that we have. What was your thoughts on the Lakers, the rumors that the Lakers zeroing in on JJ Redick, former player, you know, just like more former players getting these coaching jobs and being in the running for these jobs. What was your thoughts on JJ? You mentioned them being, you know, what that report coming out for him.

Yeah, I mean, I like JJ. I think we all love respect to what he does for us in the media, you know what I'm saying? He does a great job. I think he has a great basketball mind. You know, the reports are going around now, Dan Hurley is another. candidate. But I think Jada does deserve a coaching job. I don't know if I would like it, that one for him.

You know, the Lakers job is a tough one, man. People think, you know, you're tough mental player, kid, coach, whatever. You're like, you know, I could do anything. You know, I've been through the ring. You know, I can handle it. I'll be fine. So you get in there. That ring is a different type of ring.

And I've seen certain guys, even the most toughest guy, Russell Westbrook. There's not a guy that I know in this league that is as tough mentally than him. You know what I'm saying? That carries that confidence. Chip on the shoulder night and night out. Don't give a damn. Who says anything? And he went to LA and he just looked like a different person.

And I'm like, damn, those lights are different, that organization, those fans are different. It can change you. It can kind of break some people. And it can make it break your career. And that's your first coaching job for JJ. I'm like, I don't know if that's the first one I want to get into. You know what I'm saying? But I think it's a good hire.

I think it's dope. Obviously some conflicts with JJ and Brian having the podcast. You know, they're not sure if you're going to get the respect. in the locker room. If Brian respects him, everybody else should. I think everybody else respects JJ. Even as a player, he was a really good player. He's a great player.

And he's so good at what he does media-wise. He's, you know, people kind of forgetting how good he was as a player. That's how good he is as a media head. But yeah, I think it's a good hire anywhere. But I just, for JJ, I think it's going to be tough. And if I'm him, I don't know if I want that to be my first one. I don't know what's your thoughts on it. If you have any other better candidates, say, who's assistant coaches over there?

y'all have some good assistance over there. Like, is this somebody you think would fit better in L.A.? I think J.J. would do a great job. And I think, you know, with the report that him and Brian have, like, at the end of the day, no coach in the NBA is successful without the backing of their best player. Like, if their best player don't back there, that coach ain't going to be successful.

So I think with their report that they have, I'd imagine that, Brian, you do a podcast with this man, I'd imagine you respect them, you respect this basketball mind, you respect all those things. So to your point, if, you know,

if that's the case, then I think that ultimately helps. Where I think the business of the NBA happens is like when you, see, people don't understand the dynamic of having multiple stars. Like, and the dynamic of having multiple stars can be different.

So there could be a dynamic where JJ, like Braun loves JJ and wants him as the coat. Anthony Davis is a totally different start that may want something else. I don't know this to be facts. I'm just saying how the dynamics could work because for me, when I see Dan Hurley all of a sudden come out of nowhere, like he's their guy, they're reporting, they're flying him out to L.A. Like just a day ago, they were zeroing in on JJ right.

Now, yes, these are reports. But this is Shams reporting. Like this ain't Fox News or like, this is Shams reporting. And so you know when he reports, when Wold's reports. It holds water. That's a different thing.

Like they know what the, and so for that to come out one day and then the next day it's like Dan Hurley, to me, like how does that change that fast? Right? And I just sit back and I'm like, whoa, maybe this happened because I do understand the dynamic of stars in the NBA. For sure.

It's interesting also because I feel like we came in at a similar time. Early on, social media wasn't as big when we first got into the league. It grew. And certain things that were reported did not affect how people coached, how people traded, GMs looked at things. You can see now how the media is huge and can get into locker rooms. It can get into organizations. I think when they put out the JJ thing,

they didn't like the responses that they got. And people were like, what the hell? Is this serious? I thought this was a joke. Or who's going to respect it? They probably saw a lot of negative heat and was like, are y'all not vetting anybody else? There's no better candidates?

I like James Barrego. I had him in San Antonio. J.B. Good peoples. Everybody else that is really good has a job already or has been picked up. So there's not a lot of options. I think this was, I wouldn't say like a cover-up. But it was something like, all right,

we got to do some other research. search and see other options. Now, does Dan take the job? I don't, I don't think he does. I don't think it makes sense for leave the Yukon, especially if he can get extended there for the same amount of money and stay in Connecticut because it's a tough situation. But, you know, who knows?

I thought that, you know, maybe Kentucky would have threw some money at him when, you know, Cal left for Arkansas. But, yeah, he's got the pick of the little, like, he's in a really good situation and he can do whatever he wants to do. I don't know if he would take the Lakers job, but I think this is just them kind of like, seeing the response they got from the media and like, all right,

we got to kind of see, see what else is out there and see what the, see what the responses from, like Dan Hurley, what do they think of that? I'm sure people are like, oh, this is probably a really good candidate.

Because JJ, even though he's really great, he's never coached before. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's like, we've kind of forget that. You would think that yet

because how smart he is and how he knows the game and how he talks it in media. It's like, yo, he's really good, he's really never coach before. And for him,

I wouldn't want that job for him, having to manage that locker room with egos and that nature. I have a couple questions for you. Like, what do you think outside of coaching? What pieces do you think they need? The Lakers? Yeah, to like make,

because I thought they had great foundation. I thought it worked. Obviously, they matched up at Denver, which is not the best matchup for them, but I feel like any other series they could win or beat teams. But obviously, they're missing some pieces. So you keep AD and Braun.

What moves? They talk about Trey Young. They talk about DeJante Murray. What do you think, they should do or put your GM hat on. If you're the Lakers, what do you do? Coaching-wise and players-wise. I think any young guard they can get would be, like,

what will help that team. Because for them, if you got like a Trey Young or a DeJante Murray with the backing of Brown in 80, like that's a totally different thing. And that young guard is in point guard in Brown's point guard school, because Braun is a point guard. Yeah. They're a point guard.

been a point guard his whole life. So not only with their skill, you know, and, you know, whoever that young guard can be, it don't have to be a Dejantir-Trey. That's just the name as you mentioned. But like, any young guard, you have talent, you have skill, your dynamic in the way that these young guards are in the NBA.

And you get to go to Brian Point Guard school and you get to play with one of the best bigs in the NBA and Anthony Davis. Like you and I both know for a long time, teams were built in the NBA on having a great guard and a great big

and you fill everything else out in between. Then it starts changing with like us. But you're starting to see that shift back again. Like that, it's starting to shift back to like great big now. It's like a Wembechette type of big now. Absolutely. And so with that shift kind of has, happening.

So now you say you got a great big in Anthony Davis and you got like a young guard that can go to LeBron James Point Guard school. Oh, and by the way, you still got LeBron James who can get great at any moment. Don't got to be there all the time. He's in year 27.

But can be great in the blink of an eye in any moment you need. In between that, like I think that's, I think that's dangerous. And none of us would want to see that, you know? So I think, you know, I think they, you know, it's going to be interesting to see what they do. But if I'm not mistaken, I think they got a little room to do something.

They got, they got pieces. They got stuff they can do. Ultimately, I think they need to start preparing for the future. And as if Anthony Davis stays there, they do need somebody to replace Braun instead of a guard with a young guard that could kind of do some of the similar things or give you that type of dynamic, the one-two punch.

So, yeah, it's going to be interesting, man. It's a tough job. I'm glad I don't have it being that GM. Roby's done an incredible job, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's done a great job. RP's been doing his thing, man. Big shout out to him.

But I do have one other question of me to take over your podcast. I love it, bro. But for you guys, man, I think you guys are still a contender. You keep the group that y'all have together. What is it you think that y'all were missing this year? Obviously, you had some ups and downs. You'd be in and now, some injuries. What changes you think might need to make

or what you think you need to do for y'all to get back to where y'all were for next year? I think for us, like it's going to be very important for us to define who it is that we're going to be. Like we change them, bro. Like you said, we get older. Like we are not the same basketball team

that we were in 2019. or even in 2022 for that matter. Like, it changes, you know what I'm saying? And I think, you know, we're adjusting to that change, which is great. Like Steve, I think Steve is doing an incredible job of where he's becoming more open to like Jonathan Kaminga having the ball more. And like Kaminga being in the pick and roll and like running some ISOs for Kaminga, whereas, you know, it takes some time to adjust to that when you've had the level of success

that we've had doing what we've done. Like, it takes some time to adjust to that. And it also takes, you know, everybody want to come in and do things right away. And I think what Kaminga end up learning, and I commend him, I commend the young fellow because he's stuck with it, is you come in and you're looking at like a Jalen Green

or one of those guys that's in Houston or, you know, in one of those places that, you know, they got in, they got the ball right away. Let him grow, just do what they want to do. do it, right? And you look at that and you like, man, I want to, you know, I want to show what I can do. And you don't realize. And like I said, this is, this is no knock on Jonathan Camingo. That's my young fellow. I love him to death. And again, I'm crediting him. You don't realize that, A, when I'm in a great situation, respect is earned. B, they've done things a certain way. And it's on me to show them that doing this work, my way where I can be successful will work for. of them and they should do that. And, you know, when I watched a young fellow's growth, for a little while, it was up and down

because I don't think he understood that. And by the way, how do you understand that without going through it? And then I think it clicked for him. Let me do the things that I need to do to get on the court. Once I'm on the court, I can then do a little more of what I know I'm capable of doing.

Oh, and by the way, when I do that, now all of a sudden Steve Kerr, trust me, and I scored 20 points in 17, 18, straight games in a row because he trusts me, oh, look how that works. And so I think, you know, that has helped. Like, young guys, you know, we got the young guys coming along in BP and Trace. Like, I think as the year went on, you started to see like, man, Trace is a real live threat.

You know, we went through the early part of the year without necessarily having a live threat, you know what I'm saying? And me and Loon, me and Loon got a certain chemistry that's great. I love playing with Kavon Luni, man. You know, but like with the league changing and getting bigger, we ain't that athletic together. You started to see, all right, you know, they start like separating me and loon. Like, all right, I'm in the lineup.

When I'm out, Loon's in the lineup. You know what I'm saying? Lones in, when I'm out the game, loon. Because you just start to see the league's changing. And so then all of a sudden incorporate that young lob threat and that changes our offense. It changes our defense and things start to change. So I think for us,

it is just important for us to shore up. I always tell people, and you know it, championships are won six through ten. Yeah. And championships are not won one through five. And so it's just on us to shore up and make the decisions of what does our six to ten look like? You know, what does our one to five look like?

Does that mean, Draymond, you're out of the side line up and Kaminga's in? Although I think Kaminga's a better three than necessarily a four, But like these are the decisions that we have to make. And, you know, like you said, I'm happy I ain't got the job. It's all on Steve. But Steve's great in those situations. I think he'll make them. I think Mike's doing a great job.

It'll be very important for us to try to get Clay back. You know what I'm saying? Like I think, you know, that's huge. What does Clay do? If Clay decides not to come back, then what does that look like for us, right? Like, are you swinging to try to get another big guy? like what does that look like? And so I just think there are some decisions

that have to be made for us. And I trust and know that our front office and our coach staff will make the right decisions. But I think we still got a small window to make something happen. And, you know, I know this organization will honor Steph and myself. And Clay, I know they'll honor us in that way

of giving us every chance they can to help us win. Yeah, Dunleavy's done a great job, man. So is Steve. I love what they've done. I said it would be weird to see Clay in another uniform. I hope he doesn't leave. It would just be weird. And as much as I fucking hate y'all winning so much and competing against y'all,

it's just weird to see a group like that special to have to break up because of, you know, some other things. But yeah. No doubt. At the end of the day, ultimately, we talk about the young guys that do. I hope y'all keep your core. You said, fill it in with some pieces. Because if y'all just stay consistent and healthy, y'all just had some end. Y'all would definitely playoff team.

It's just getting back to the level of contention. And if y'all are healthy, I think y'all can compete with any, like, any given night. Like, y'all can win a series or beat a team for four games. Just finding the right pieces and said a lot of young guys don't understand, which I like so much in Derek lively, is that you don't have to do what Jalen Green does to show your value. Facts. You're saying, Kamenga. It's like, you don't have to do all those things. People know how valuable you are.

You can still do the other things since baby steps work your way in, work your way up. But just because you're not, you don't have to do that. And you can still make a lot of money because people can see that in you before you have to show it. They can see you can grow into that and they eventually let you get there. We just have to kind of wait,

wait your turn, wait your time. But you can still be valued by doing what you're good at first and then kind of opening, you know, stepping outside the box and then, you know, added some more things to the bag. But yeah, the value is not on, you know, let me show what I can do. Let me show the world of the fans.

You don't have to do that. There's only a couple guys they're going to let do that. It's like 2% if that in the league. There's 1% of guys in the league is going to do that. And you can get there at some point. You'll get there, but ultimately just win. Do what you're supposed to do. To feed your family, you'll show your value by doing that.

You'll keep getting paid and getting years in the league. And then you get to that level. But that's why I like Derek Lobby so much. A lot of guys on Dallas, and I think they have a really good shot because guys know their roles very well and know it early. And they're not tripping about having to be that guy yet. That's a fact. No, we got a young guy like that also where, like,

I think he actually made it very tough on our coaches this year. because when he plays, he plays well. Moses? He plays well. I liked this game. Shoot well, compete, defend. You know, but like, as you know, it's a numbers game. And sometimes the numbers don't fall your way.

But, like, you keep going back to this dude because you know every time he produced, the numbers just don't always fall your way. And that's like a young guy who, like, even with Moses, right? Like, you're at that position in young guys' careers where, like, you have to make those decisions. And I think making those decisions help because it's like, you know what, Moses is our guy.

He's in the lineup. And when you start solidifying that stuff, it really helps the growth. And so, you know, Moses, I love Moses. That's my young fellow. But, no, man. That's huge. Coach, just back in you encouraging young players because, you know, young rookies are just,

that's the big confidence is to make. of breaking them in the league. And you have the right coach and staff behind you, the right group behind you, right? Vets, I think he's in a good spot, man. So it's Trace. I think my younger brother play with Trace at IU. So I haven't seen him play for a while,

but they're in a good spot, man. Because you said, I see a lot of young guys, man, and they have the potential to be so great. They're just in the wrong organization, with no vets. And no one blames the organization. It's always the player fault. And I don't want to point out any organization of players,

but it's like it is a lot of talent here. He's just not getting groomed the right way. He's not having the right vets around him. He just don't understand how to be a pro yet first and then be a basketball player and then grow into being a star. It's a process, man. That's a fact.

Before we get out of here, man, I appreciate you coming on the show. Of course. Who you got? Who you got? Before the series, I predicted Dallas in six. I'm still going to stick with that. If they don't get them in six,

it goes to seven, it's going to be tough for them to beat Boston at home. I just said, Boston to me has been, they're really good. They're not as battle tested as they should be. They, so they live and die by the three. Orzingus played well tonight.

I don't know how, said, I don't know if you can keep that up. Him being healthy. I said, I wasn't sure on his help. And that was going to be a big part of how well they were going to succeed. If you can stay healthy and keep doing what he's doing, they have a really good shot. But if not, I just don't see. He said Al Horford had a really good game.

Howser had a good game. Kai didn't have a great game. Luca settled in late. and they cut it to eight. And that showed me that's the real part of the game where I'm like, all right, this is what the game is more like going to be like instead of the 20-30-point game.

And if it's close, I'm trusting more in Dallas's closers than Boston's closer. So I have Dallas and six, but I think this is going to be a good one. It's a toss-up. We just don't know how the emotions of Kai being in Boston, bro. It's a game two.

We're going to see how he bounces back. I expect and hope that he does, but you just never know when that's a scenario. I hope that for him. I saw some stats. where it's like he's 0 and 10 and games in Boston since either he's stumped on Lucky

or since he left Boston or something like that and that now makes 0-4-11. So I just want to see him get the monkey off his back because you, as you know, all it takes is one game. Just one shot, one win, one basket, and you're like, yeah, all right, we good. I got the monkey off my back.

So I definitely want to see Kai get the monkey off his back, rooting for him, but I appreciate you coming on the show, brother. Of course, brother. I appreciate you. having me. Absolutely. And thank you to everybody

for watching the show. We'll be back next Sunday. Game 2. Do not miss champs only. There's only room for champions. So make sure you tune in. Hit the subscribe button so you don't miss the show.

You also catch your boy. I'm doing some stuff for Odyssey. Inside the Green Room with Danny Green. I'm doing some stuff for ESPN too. I'm going to be on ESPN tomorrow. I don't think I'll be an NBA today. But, you know, I'm a freelance guy. So I'm able to do stuff with Turner, ESPN, Yahoo.

It's been cool, man, to see which networks. If you get a chance to dabble in different ones, you see which one more fits you. But I'm enjoying the process, man. But yeah, inside the green room, Danny, where you catch me covering some of the final stuff as well. I love that. By the way, I just want you to know also,

inside the green room, I saw fire, and I was so generic with just this is Raymond Green show. I didn't come up with the name, bro. I can't take credit for it. Okay. The homie, he was, we grew up together. We went to high school, well, not with mutual friends, but I've known them since high school.

And he threw the podcast at me. And this is actually year six. I've been doing it for six years. And I was in San Antonio. I know if you know much about San Antonio, they don't care for media or they didn't want to do nothing. So I was very skeptical about doing his podcast. I was like, bro, I don't know if they're going to let me do this shit, honestly. And I said I was going to do it, and we got traded in Toronto.

And then I had the news. They thought I had the inside scoop on Kauai blew up. You know what I'm saying? We got a little studio in Toronto. And from there it went off. So it was easy. In Toronto, they did a great job organization and let me. you feel comfortable with it.

But the homie came up with the name. I didn't really, wasn't sure if I was going to do it. I'm glad I did. I got the reps. It's allowed me to, like, get behind it, you know, build some type of resume on screen and learn ends and outs of media. But yeah, ultimately it's year six and I said the name is dope, but I have to get credit to my guy Harrison Sanford, who came up with the name.

And I'm Jed Osman, my producer. He was my producer at the time. So they came up with it. But it is, it's a good one. It's a good one. No, that's fire. I would love to come on your show, too, bro, if you'll have. Bro, come on now.

You know what time is. Yes, sir. We got to get you on. I got to get you on. So I appreciate you, brother. Enjoy the finals, man. I'm sure you'll be out. Probably have you fly out the boss

someone these days or Dallas. I know you can be covering on the big screen on the panel. I'm enjoying you. I'm with Turner. We done. Oh, y'all done. So I'll be right here.

I'll be right here on the Draymond Green Show live. I was looking forward to you and Chuck and Shaq, man. Kenny go out of this. It's funny as hell, man. I got to bring that show back. They can't lose it. They can't lose it. They cannot lose the show.

The show is everything. It's very vital to the game of the sport and the NBA, so we need that back. Absolutely. That's a wrap. Appreciate y'all. Peace.