The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Draymond Green Show - Team USA Starts 3-0 + Predicting The Medal Round

Episode Date: August 4, 2024

Draymond Green discusses Team USA basketball's 3-0 start in group play behind Anthony Edwards, how this team stacks up against the Dream Team, the controversy around Jayson Tatum's playing time, the biggest threats to Team USA, LeBron James and Kevin Durant's Olympic GOAT status, Kamala Harris's nomination, and more.  0:00 Start 2:00 Anthony Edwards 9:00 Tatum's Playing Time 21:00 Medal Round 33:00 KD & Bron's GOAT status 36:00 Kamala Harris #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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So I feel like I need to go get my other one out of storage and put that one on too so I can look like the athletes like Simone Biles and stuff, although she got a lot of gold medals. But you know how they layer them. Feels good. Anyway, USA Team USA, who we are watching basketball in the Olympics for. off to a 3-0 start, kind of dominating just about everyone that they face up against, which was to be expected. We got Ant-Man leading the team and scoring off the bench with 16.6 a game.

KD is slightly behind at 16 the game. Those two guys have been shoulder and much of the scoring load, which I think is pretty expected. KD is the all-time leading score in Team USA history. And, Edman, if you watched him last year on the Fiba stage, I think it was last year. Yeah, it was last year in World Championships. If you watch him on the Fiba stage,

like you could tell he would be a guy in this setting that, like, those guys are not fast enough, not strong enough, don't jump high enough. and quite frankly just not good enough to stop him. And you've kind of seen that in Fibber playing. Now you're seeing it in the Olympics. And man is special and he continues to grow. And I think what I love most is the way Braun, Steph, and K.D.

are embracing him to, like, be that next young guy up. And kind of giving him the keys to the team in a sense. Like, if you're watching these games, he's running the show. show whenever he's on the floor it's his show and I'm sure like Ant Man is a very confident confident player

I think that's what we all love about him he was half joking when he said now they're going to have to learn how to fit around me but I said have joking because he was definitely serious and he meant it but he says it and does it and go about it in a way where

he's confident as hell and very close to cocky. But if you understand anything about greatness, you got to be very close to cocky in order to be great at anything. Because that belief, the belief is actually one of the things that separate you because most people can't reach that level of belief in themselves. And so having that belief being a little cocky is actually what separates him.

And obviously you got to have. the talent to go with it and he got more than enough talent. And so it's been interesting to watch. Ant Man kind of run the show. Kind of watching Brian play kind of a point forward, like real point four role. Brian, his whole career, he's really played point guard. But he's being a true point four in this setting. And I think it's been beautiful to see.

I think AD and BAM have been incredible at the big spot. Joel had his best game of the series today versus Puerto Rico. So it's good to see him have a good game. I think the first couple games he had been struggling a bit. Well, played one. That one. But he had also been struggling for most of the exhibition games, especially the ones in America.

He was a little better at Abu Dhabi in London. Not your typical, Joelle, and trying to figure it out, as I said, he was better today, probably his best game of the tournament so far. And with this team being so dominant, with this team pretty much doing exactly what we expected them to do on their way to another gold medal, it's only right that you draw the comparisons to what is believed to be the greatest team USA ever. assembled, which is the dream team. And this

2014, you got the dream team, you got the redeem team, this 2012 are definitely drawing those comparisons to the dream team. And quite frankly, I'm taking the 2014 seven days a week. I think the

2014 beats the dream team five out of seven games. Gotta get the Dream Team some respect. They got Goats, we get it. They got Hall of Famers, we get it. Five out of seven games, at least for the 2024 team. I just think the versatility on that team,

the star power, the score, I don't think the Dream Team can do anything with that. Oh, and by the way, now, if the Dream Team has Shaq on it and not Christian Leitner may be a different story. because the versatility that Shaq would bring to that team is just a different thing that you have to deal with it. But we know Shaq was not on the dream team, which I think was a big mistake.

But nonetheless, it is what it is. And I got to 2014 team winning easy. Pretty simple. The game is different. The game is better now. And against better talent, we see what's happening. there's nothing that no one can do to even come remotely close to beating this team. It's just not happening.

Too good. Too much sharp power. Oh, and by the way, Steph Curry has not played well. Steph Curry has not shot the ball well. Devin Booker has been an X factor. But Steph hasn't shot well at all. And we're winning about 25, 30 points. That's interesting.

Very interesting. And that's why I don't think the dream team could come close. I wouldn't say come close. The 10-point loss, double digits. By 2012, Team USA, you can book it. You heard it here, it's what it is, winning, no problem, just like they're about to win the gold medal. No problem.

As we know, as greatest Team USA is, the talk of Team USA has been what? The playing time, the substitution. With Jason Tatum and Tyrese Halliburton not playing a single minute in game one, which was crazy. Like, you don't, you just don't not play Jason Tatum in game one of the Olympics. Because pretty much what that is saying is, if I get Jason Tatum in for nine,

11 minutes because no one's looking at the minute. It's like, oh, this guy played less like, like I said to JT, no, when you win a gold medal, no one cares who scored the points. No one cares who played the minute. Did you win a gold medal or did you not? That's what it boils down to. Did you win a gold medal? Did you not?

However, you don't not play Jason Taylor. That man just won NBA championship, cover of, NBA 2K. Cover of Sports Illustrated saying, cheers. Just signed the biggest contract in NBA history. Oh, and by the way, your reward is sit down and don't play in the first Olympic game. Now, if you watched the exhibition games, J.T. didn't play well in the exhibition game. I don't care.

Like, it actually doesn't matter. And so I was a little taken back by that. like, there's usually always two to three guys on the Olympic team that don't play many minutes, just kind of how it shakes out. If you're coming into the game one of the Olympics against the Serbia team that can't compete, like, Joker's great, and it stops there. Like, no one else can compete at the level except Joker. So, like, love Serbia as a country.

But they can't compete with Team USA. And we know that. Like, just watch. I mean, we've seen it a couple times now, actually, but I've been new this. So when you're going into that game, my thought process was, if you're not going to play two guys, the two guys you're probably not going to play as Tyrese and Derek White. Reason being, Drew is great in this. He moves the ball.

He attacks the pain, breaks the defense down, then he drives and kids. he make all the hustle plays. He's defending the best guard. That's what Drew does. So Drew going to play. Obviously, Steph playing. Obviously, Ant Man playing. D. Book has been the X-Factor.

So when you start looking at the guards, Steph is Steph. Ant-Man is more special than everybody. Drew has already won a gold medal, so he knows what it takes. He knows what has to be done. Jason Tatum has to be done. has won a gold medal. He knows what it takes. He knows what has to be done. And in 2021,

when we won the 2020 Olympics, but it was in 2021 for those that forgot, pandemic, pushed it back a year, 2020 Olympics. Our team, our offense was built around Jason Tatum and Kevin Durant. And it was almost kind of set up as though like KD was passing the torch to JT to now take it because at the time, I don't think Kevin's mind was set on Paris. I don't think really anyone was looking at the Paris. You're coming out of a pandemic. No one's really even thinking about it.

Like, but I think there was kind of this like foregone conclusion or thought that like, yeah, like he's passing the torch to J.T. And then J.T. come out and not play. I couldn't believe that. But in not playing them, it was wrong. We all know it was wrong. He should play. He did it.

But he should have played. So it was wrong, and we know that. What I don't like about it is, now to me it feels like a cover in my tracks, like proving a point type thing to where like, oh, now Joel's out of the lineup. And then today, Drew didn't play. And I'm sure as part, we could rest the ankle a little bit. but as part, we got to not play someone. And quite frankly, I don't like it.

Like, come up with a rotation and stick with it. These teams aren't good enough to where we're trying to match their lineup. They got to match our lineup. Hey, we're not matching their lineup, by the way, because we got the best players in the world. We're going to match the lineup anyway with whoever we got on the court.

We'll be fine. So the whole, like, matched their lineup, or, you know, this guy out of the line. I'm not, I disagree with it. We're already, we're already a team of individuals that essentially come together for six weeks, seven weeks, and then we go back to our lives. And these teams have been together for five, ten,

Spain's case. Rudy's played in six Olympics, Rudy for six. I think Baton's maybe in his fourth Olympics. I think Rudy Gobert is in his third Olympics. These guys been playing together forever. So they already have the continuity familiarity amongst their teams.

They already have that. We don't have that. But we're so much better than everybody that it kind of doesn't matter. But once you find the rotations, the rotations are what they are. Let's not combat the mistake that Jason Tatum was out with.

Oh, now this guy isn't playing. Now that guy. Like, what are we doing? And so I actually totally disagree with that. I think we know, like, if Joel's going to be out of the lineup, then Joel's out of the lineup. But then you start the next thing. Like, what are we really doing? I don't get it.

Like, it's one of those things to me that feels like, man, we got to keep everybody happy. And in turn, everybody ends up unhappy. That's what it feels like to me. So then KD's coming off the bench, which I'm fine with. KD is KD, and if KD want to start, KD should start. But like KK Amata said, and K is in his fourth Olympics. 12, 16, 20, yeah, K is in his fourth Olympics. So with him being in his fourth Olympics, he's seen it all.

He ain't tripping. Like, I've seen it all. I've started. I'm the leading score. If I'm coming off the bench, who cares? All right, fine. So he ain't tripping. Cool.

So that's one less guy in the star lineup that you don't have to worry about because he is in the star. He's cool with not being in the star lineup. Because if he wasn't cool, he'd be in a star lineup. It's Kevin the right. So, like, just lock the lineups in. The whole switching this guy out,

now this guy ain't going to play this game. And that guy ain't like, what are we doing? So I totally disagree with that. And as I said, just from the outside looking in, it just comes off as like a, we made a mistake as a coaching staff as opposed to just the mistake that we made this is what it is and moving on.

You now combat it with, all right, now this guy ain't playing. J.T. goes from out of the starting line, out of the rotation at all, zero minutes to the start lineup. That don't make him feel good. Because then it's like, oh, this is the story. Now I'm all of a sudden the star lineup.

I'm Jason Tatum. It's almost like, oh, I'm giving you this so you don't feel bad. Like, that don't make him feel good. It actually, I'm sure it probably made him feel worse about it. Like, oh, now I'm starving. And so I just disagree with what's going on with the lineup stuff. Like get the lineups, lock the lineups in, lock the rotations in. We know who start.

We know who we go. And go with it. But somebody else in the lineup today, Newt got him. Again. We're good enough to get away with it because we're just more superior than everyone. Team USA basketball, best in the world, bar none. No question. So we get away with it.

But just because we get away with it, don't make it right. And I think it's wrong. I totally disagree with it. But we three and no. But guess what? If our rotations were locked in, you know what our record would be? Three and oh. because Rich is better.

And as I said, so if I'm coming into game one, the two players that naturally aren't playing are D. White and Tyrese Halliburton. There's no knock to either one of those guys, but just look at everything else in front of you. Then as you go through the tournament, if you're like, ah,

I think we specifically need to get Derek White in for X. Like, we need to get him into the rotation because he provides X. Then you do that. But to start, probably those two guys that don't play. Olympic rookies. Steff's in Olympic, but Steph's is Steph. Olympic rookies, like, that to me is a given.

So, with all things considered, my starting line up for Team USA would be, Drew Holiday at the 1, Steph at the 2, KD at the 3, Brown at the four and AD at the five. My closing lineup that's the one that I'm not hell bent on on who closing because whoever,

we are so good, whoever's rolling is rolling, you find a group that rolls and you want to close with that group. No problem, you can't go wrong. It's 12 the best players in the world. So you really can't get it wrong. So just roll with who's rolling for closing.

But our star line up. Like set the star lineup. And by the way, if KD wanted to start, then Book would be out of a star lineup, and that's fine because it's Kevin Durant. So I don't know. It's a little crazy. Nonetheless, I'm loving watching it.

3 and O, baby. Shout out to Team USA. As I said, we're about halfway through the Olympic tournament, which means the medal round is now about to begin, and the pool play is over. eight teams have gone home, eight teams are moving on. And so USA will start off versus Brazil. First game in the medal round.

I think we mopped them by 40, no problem. It's great to see the Brazilians get there. A lot of Brazilians. Shout out to Guy Santos, young fellow praying for Brazil, representing this country. I love to see it. They stand no chance. they'll lose about 35 to 40 point

and team USA will move on to the to the semifinals because quite frankly Brazil just don't have enough a little older so a couple guys a little older on the team no more Barbosa no more Andy V it's kind of

you know they got to build the young talent back up So they stand no chance. We understand that. I think the matchup, we're almost excited about to start off the medal rounds is Canada, France. Although I quite frankly don't think France is good enough. I think France's guard play isn't good enough for Canada.

Canada has Lou Dord, who's a great defender, to guard the best player for France, best guards for France. Shea Gildegh's Alexander is on another level. And Canada's doing what they're doing. Jamal Murray's playing. pretty bad right now. I think Jamar Murray's averaging like five points during the Olympics and Canada is doing what they're doing. However, where France could take advantage of Canada and what's ultimately going to be the reason Canada cannot even compete with Team USA is Canada on how to

bigs. Dwight Powell and Kelly Olinett, respect for both of those guys is basketball. basketball players, but they're not near good enough to compete with Bam out of Bayou, Joelle and B. and Anthony Davis. So when they play Team USA, if they were to get to Team USA, that right there alone can't compete, just don't have a big play. And France has the bigs, but where you could take advantage of the size is with physicality and they're not very physical. And so you got the length, which is great. But I actually think Kelly O'Lennick and Dwight Powell could push them around a bit. They should be able to push them around a bit. And so because they're not the most physical team, I think that can help Canada out.

And I think because of that, I got Canada moving on to the semifinals and be the friend. in Paris, which I really wanted to see Team USA be France in Paris, because it just would be amazing to see Team USA. Like a couple years ago, so I played in these last two Olympics, and what you end up realizing is like the teams that, A, think they come in, I think a few years back France had won the World Championship of something, and they start acting as if they were kind of better than Team USA or they beat us in the World Championship,

or something to that nature. And they kind of start acting as if they're on the same level of us, and that's just not a realistic thing when it comes to playing basketball. And so when you're going through these Olympics, in 2021, we lost the first game to France. Devin Booker, Drew Holiday, and Chris Middleton, who all end up being three very important pieces on our team, landed the day of the game because, again, who's coming off the COVID year,

and then the season started at Christmas, and so the finals went all the way to July, Sons, Bucks. They then flew right after the finals ended, landed on the day of the first game. No practice is nothing. And played, that's not why we lost. Because we lost. Don't really matter.

We won the gold medal. But when they won that first game, I'll never forget. Evan Fournier, like, yeah, they're a good team. I mean, they're great players, but they're not a team. And then to go on and lose to us in a gold medal game, we saw some tears. And it was fun to watch.

And as we stood up there on that podium, getting them gold medals, all of a sudden, those individuals had come together as a team. And so I don't forget these things. So, like, when you play Olympic basketball for Team USA, like, just like in the NBA where you get rivals and you build up animosity towards the team, I feel that.

So when I'm watching these games, I'm in it. Because I feel that, and I know the beefs among certain teams that we got with people. I know them. And France is one of them. And so they'll lose to Canada, and unfortunately, Team USA won't be able to beat them in France. Greece, Germany is another one of our quarterfinal matchups,

and I think it's great that Greece made it to the medal rounds, quite frankly, I don't think they have enough of Germany. Germany has looked, to me, the clear-cut favorite for number two, for the silver medal, second-best team in the Olympics. To me, they're clear-cut number two. And so I think Schroeder's great in Olympic basketball

Franz Wagner has taken the next step dominating and I just don't think Greece has enough to compete with that. Janus is great but I think Germany wins that one by double digits. Germany's playing incredibly well

and I don't see that change until they play team USA. And then we got Australia, Serbia. And I think I'm going with Serbia and this one. I think Australia is possibly on the wrong side of the hill. They are getting a bit older. I think this is Patty Mills, fourth or fifth Olympics.

And Patty Mills, by the way, Patty Mills is one of the greatest Olympians from a basketball perspective of all times. What he does in Fibah basketball, I wouldn't even say Olympians. It's just in Fibba. Fibber basketball players, Patty Mills is incredible.

And he's still playing well, but I just think they're on the wrong side as far as their older guys are going. And I don't think the younger guys are quite their, like, talented enough to then carry those older guys. So I got Australia losing in the quarterfinals, Serbia.

I think Joker's going to have a big night. Jock Laundell plays great for Australia, but Joker going to give them hell. And I just don't think Australia you will have enough to compete with Serbia. So I think your semi-finals will look something like USA versus Serbia, Canada versus Germany. And then I think your final is Germany versus Team USA, or USA walking with what would be our fifth straight gold medal, 2008, 12, 16, 20. Our fifth straight gold medal.

You can book it. It's happening. You heard it here, first, second, and third. It's happening. Shout out to Team USA again. And you know what? Also, shout out to our women's soccer team on the way to the quarterfinals. Excuse me, on the way to the semifinals.

Taking down Japan today. Trinity Robben, Incredible. Took matters into our own hands. after just missing a shot with the left foot. No, I'm confident in that I'm coming right back to it. Go. Love to see it. So shout out to the ladies.

Swimming. Katie Ladecki still doing it. Shout out to her. Shakari Richardson on her first medal. Silver medal. Incredible. Shakari, happy to see that. So shout out to her.

Go boughs. The goat. I'd love it. Shout out to Gold Biles. Suni, we see y'all. Shout out to the ladies, women's gymnastics. Beautiful to see. Simone. Simone, she just lives up to the height.

And you know what? Shout out to Jonathan Owens, Simone's husband. And I say that in the least disrespectful way. Because Jay-Z is Beyonce's husband. I'm Hazel's husband. Steph is Aisha's husband Brodha's

Savannah's husband And it's crazy that people try to Oh, that's just Simone's husband Number one, this man play in the NFL It's a very hard thing to do He plays in the NFL The disrespect that people try to spiel around It's crazy to me

I don't understand it actually like Oh, he look at him, I'm like Damn right you putting on your wife gold medal. Number one, he can't win a gold medal. They actually don't have football. He can't... American football. He can't win a gold medal. And people try to make it look at him with her. Of course.

Like, people are so dumb, man. And it'd be like, people that aren't capable of accomplishing nothing will then try to take someone who's accomplished living his dream of playing in the NFL on a 53 man roster year in and year out living his dream contributing and people are going to try to take it and make it like he's lessening because his wife is more famous what so shout out to jonathan ohans love to see him with the gold medal and i love to tweet oh by the way my wife is the gold or some sweet something of that nature, he said,

I love it, brother. Keep supporting your wife the way you do. Y'all keep doing it. That man found the love of his life and support her. And y'all try to talk down on him? I don't understand it. I don't get it. But anyway, shout out to them.

Gold bobs. Man, she is incredible. I mean, absolutely incredible. Had to win. And she did that. So it's been a treat watching the Olympians. And last but not least, Katie and Brian, what they are doing from a statistical standpoint, they win this gold medal.

You have to ask yourself to question, are they the greatest Olympians from a basketball perspective in the history of Team USA? And the answer to that question is yes. They are, along with Carmelo Anthony. mellow, I don't know, you know, people tend to forget fast. What Mello did on Team USA? Bronze medal in Athens. And I know everybody try, oh, that's a bronze medal

because we team USA. But every other sport get, like, parades for bronze medal. Bronze medal, gold, go, gold. So Mello is 1,000% in that category along with KD, along with Brine. As soon as they close out, by the way, they don't have to close out the gold medal, and they're still the greatest Olympian basketball players, those three that we've had in our program. But by the way, they're winning the gold medal. And those guys, you can stamp it, book it.

There's always these conversations about what can an Olympics do for, for a player heading into the season. And I'll tell you, man, when you come off the Olympics, like, is it draining, is it energizing? How do you feel after? I'm going to tell you this. When you come off the Olympics, for us, I can only speak for Team USA.

I can't speak for Serbia or France. Because the reality is their teams just aren't as good as ours, so they have to do way more. When we come off the Olympics, what you come off of is you come off in great shape. You've been playing real game basketball. basketball through the summer, and now you got five weeks to stay in shape and head into training camp. And when I tell you, you come into training camp rolling. Rolling. Like, I'm pretty

certain both Olympics I played and coming off that year, I was an all-star. Because you come in in great shape. And when you come in in great shape, you hit the ground running, man. And so, I love Olympic years because you just be. Being in that shape when you come into the season already in game shape, man, you start the season off. You got a head start on guys. And so for us, it isn't draining at all. For us, it's fun, it's energizing, and you come and ready to go. Like I said, I can't speak for all the other teams, but I'm telling you, watch how these guys come into the season.

Take on and come into the season. Guns blazing. And that's just, that's what it does for us. And so actually, I'll take it a step further. The last two times I play in Olympus, we also won a championship the following year. 2022, playing in Olympus in 21, 21-22 season. Yours truly. 2016, 2016-17 season.

That's KD's first year. Championship. So I love the Olympics, baby. because, you know, gold medal, two gold medals, followed by a championship each time, you can't tell me nothing. And that's what Steph Curry about to do. He's about to win a gold medal,

follow it up with a championship. And last but not least, in the spirit of gold medals, as you can see underneath this gold medal, rocking President Obama, Kamala Harris, Oakland Native, Lifelong Warrior fan, has been nominated by the Democratic Party

to run in the presidential election this coming November. And there are so many stories coming out. This thing, that thing, you won't get it from here. We're not tearing down here. We're uplifting here. And I want to send my love, my support to Kamala and her team, whoever she decides that she wants her VP to be. Good luck to them.

But I just sent my love and my support. Growing up in America as a young black man, it ain't easy. It is not easy growing up in America as a young black man. And I remember sitting in, I grew up, I grew up having seizures, and I used to have these monthly checkups or every couple months I would have to go to my neurologist. They would take blood, check my tegratol levels out. the medicine I was on for. I was actually on that medicine until I was 27 years old. And I remember sitting in the office with my dad and I was looking in the magazine and I asked my dad, I said,

do you ever think we'll have a woman president? And he said, not in my lifetime. I boo-hoo crying because in that office, because that was the first time I had a process like, damn, my dad going to die at some point. Like, when he said that, it crushed me. Like, what? Like, you just made me think about you no longer being here. I was crushed. But I remember that moment like it was yesterday.

To not only have a woman in the running, we've seen it once with Hillary, but a black woman, it's crazy. And no, we're not going to do the whole thing. She ain't this. She's not African-American. She's... Stop it. Because you use black against her

and she had to rise above that to become who she became. We're not going to now use black against her when it's convenient to try to tear her down. I don't... We don't row like that. So you damned if you do,

you damned if you don't. Not here. Not anymore. So let's go at her black card by those that aren't black. That's an interesting one. How about that? We're going to go at someone and tell them that they're not really black. But I'm not black.

That's an interesting one. So won't happen here sending all my love and support to our VP, Kamala Harris. Good luck in your race. It's the race of a lifetime. you achieved it. Now go be great. Be great on the campaign trail. Be great in the debates.

Be great in your race to history. Your path for a young black girl to see, wow, I can run for president. That's amazing. I got three daughters. For them to just have the idea of, wow, I could run for president one day. that's what she doing.

That's incredible. To give that hope to young black, brown girls around the world that you could possibly run for president one day too, man, that's different. That's different. And we don't try to say, you're not black. I don't think every young black girl who's watching her think that. I think they see her like, wow, that's me.

And how amazing is that? So I love it again, sending our well, my well wishes, my love, my support, Kamala Harris. You go, girl, we love you. That's a wrap from this episode of the Draymond Green Show. Peace.