The Herd with Colin Cowherd - FantasyPros - Are You DRAFTING or PASSING on These Running Backs in 2025? (Ep. 1606)

Episode Date: July 8, 2025

Hit the gas or slam the e-brake? Get fast and furious when you join Ryan Wormeli, Pat Fitzmaurice and Jake Ciely for a new game of draft or pass featuring the running back position! Does Miami Dolphins RB De'Von Achane have RB1 overall upside? Will New York Jets RB Breece Hall bust for the second-straight year? Plus, can either Jacksonville Jaguars RB Travis Etienne or Tank Bigsby pop with head coach Liam Coen now on the sticks? The Pros shift gears to 2025 fantasy football running backs! Timestamps: (May be off due to ads) Intro - 0:00:00FantasyPros ECR Rankings - 0:00:16Draft or Pass - 0:02:06De’Von Achane (RB - MIA) | RB6, 14 Overall - 0:02:24Kyren Williams (RB - LAR) | RB11, 24 Overall - 0:08 :00FantasyPros Draft Simulator - 0:13:14Breece Hall (RB - NYJ) | RB13, 33 Overall - 0:13:35James Cook (RB - BUF) | RB14, 39 Overall - 0:18:43DraftKings Pick6 - 0:23:33James Conner (RB - ARI) | RB19, 50 Overall - 0:24:43David Montgomery (RB - DET) | RB21 | 55 Overall - 0:27:40FantasyPros Draft Wizard App - 0:31:43Tyrone Tracy (RB - NYG) | RB32, 90 Overall - 0:32:13Travis Etienne (RB - JAX) | RB34, 95 Overall - 0:36:44FantasyPros Twitch - 0:40:13Lightning Round Would You Rather - 0:40:33Running Backs We’re Drafting or Fading Everywhere - 0:47:29Jordan Mason (RB - MIN) | RB40, 122 Overall - 0470:37Jaylen Wright (RB - MIA) | RB52, 158 Overall - 0:48 :28Joe Mixon (RB - HOU) | RB19, 54 Overall - 0:49:13Tank Bigsby (RB - JAX) | RB43, 133 Overall - 0:49:40Outro - 0:51:13 Helpful Links: DraftKings Pick6 – Download the DraftKings Pick6 app NOW on Google Play or the App Store and use code FANTASYPROS. This offer is for new customers to play $5, get $50 in Pick6 credits. Only on DraftKings Pick6. The crown is yours.  Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. Help is available for problem gambling. Call 888-789-7777, or visit ccpg.org in Connecticut. Must be eighteen plus, age and eligibility restrictions vary by jurisdiction. Pick6 not available everywhere, including New York and Ontario. Void where prohibited. One per new customer. Bonus awarded as non-withdrawable Pick6 Credits that expire in thirty days. Limited time offer. See terms at https://pick6.draftkings.com/promos. Dynasty Rookie Draft Simulator - Our Dynasty Rookie Draft Simulator lets you complete a mock in minutes with no waiting between picks! Customize your league settings to match your league’s exact format. Premium subscribers can test trade scenarios by mocking with their traded draft picks. Prepare for rookie drafts AND dynasty startup drafts in one place! Use the Dynasty Rookie Draft Simulator to dominate your rookie draft today at fantasypros.com/simulator! Discord - Join our FantasyPros Discord Community! Chat with other fans and get access to exclusive AMAs that wind up on our podcast feed. Come get your questions answered and BE ON THE SHOW at fantasypros.com/chat Leave a Review – If you enjoy our show and find our insight to be valuable, we’d love to hear from you! Your reviews fuel our passion and help us tailor content specifically for YOU. Head to Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever else you get your podcasts and leave an honest review. Let’s make this show the ultimate destination for fantasy football enthusiasts like us. Thank you for watching and for showing your support – https://fantasypros.com/review/ BettingPros Podcast – For advice on the best picks and props across both the NFL and college football each and every week, check out the BettingPros Podcast at bettingpros.com/podcast, our BettingPros YouTube channel at youtube.com/bettingpros, or wherever you listen to podcasts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Hello, everybody. Welcome into the Fantasy Pros football podcast. I am Ryan Warmly. joined today by Jake Seeley from The Athletic and by Pat Fitzmores. We are doing some draft or pass. We did an episode similar to this earlier in the summer. Kind of talking about general positions. This is going to be running back specific. We're going to throw out some running backs here and decide if we are drafting or passing on these guys at their current ADP, ECR, kind of where they are going in the early rankings. As a remark, reminder for everybody. You can find all of our

2025 consensus rankings and tiers at Fantasyprose.com slash rankings. Again, that's fantasy pros. com slash rankings. Jake, before we dive in, what do you have going on at The Athletic? Yeah, I got final part of the series coming out of the breakouts for 2025.

Tight ends, the one that everybody been waiting for. Woo-hoo, tight ends. But I did a little different spin on, the quarterback, running backs, all four positions. I did the case four and case against. So it's not just like, here are my breakouts because I love them. Like, there's just how things can go sideways too.

So I thought it was a little bit deeper of a dive this year. Fitz, if I made you do a list of your favorite breakout tight ends this year, who's the first name you're thinking of? Favorite breakout tight ends? Would Tucker Kraft count or did we get the Tucker Kraft breakout already? No, you could. I mean, because he was inconsistent last year. I was actually, I had him on the list last year.

I was thinking about putting them back again because you look at tight ends and you're like, man, I got to come up with five. I don't know if I could do that. There aren't many. And, you know, I'm starting to warmly the idea of a Tyler Warren breakout in year one. I know. We'll see about that. I know everyone hates the Colts quarterback.

I'm not big on rookies. Yeah. But there is one that I think that you might not be thinking of. That's a big one. Yeah. Can I give him one more shot, Warren? Yeah. Get one more shot to think of somebody like who might be.

A breakout. Don't tell me it's KDOT. No. Okay. Jacksonville. Oh, okay, Brent and Strange, sure. I'll buy that. There you go.

Probably going to be number one on my list. Yeah, that's a really good call, actually. Like, plenty of opportunity there. Yeah, I like that call a lot. All right, that's enough tight end talk. Let's get into the running back. So people clicked on this episode for. We're going to start kind of at the top of the rankings, as usual,

and work our way from the early round guys to more of the mid-round guys. So, again, you guys are just going to tell me if you are drafting or passing at this ranking as of right now here in early July. We're starting with Devon A-chan and Fitz. I want to start with you because I'm assuming I know the direction you're going with this, given your long history with this player. But Devon A-chan is RB 6th, 14th overall? Are you drafting or passing? I am drafting him. I wasn't quite as enthusiastic about A-chan a few weeks ago, as you might have imagined, were.

But I did start rethinking his outlook a little bit. And then the trade that sent John H. Smith, the Pittsburgh happened. And that sort of put me over the top with A. Chan. And I guess what worried me about A-CEN was the possibility that the Dolphins passing game might rediscover the principle of verticality that they totally abandoned last year, that Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle would go back to being as involved as they were in 2023 when they combined for 275 targets and 2,800 receiving yards. last year, 206 targets, 1,700 receiving yards for those two. So, but with Jonu gone, it might not matter if Tyreek and Waddle are more involved because A-chan is going to get the vast majority of the quick hitting throws from Tua. And the dolphins, like, they're getting Darren Waller, but Waller is more of a vertical seam splitter tight end than Janu, whose average depth of target last year was like 4.9 yards. So I wasn't sure A-chan had much of a chance to match his 78 receptions from last year.

Now I think he does. And one other thing to consider, Tua does not steal rushing touchdowns from running backs. Tua has not had a touchdown run since 2021. The dolphins are not going to put Tua at risk with QB sneaks or other designed runs. Now, maybe A-chan isn't the goal lineback for Miami. Maybe that's going to be Olly Gordon's role because Gordon is a big dude. But I think it's going to be A-chan in the game when the Dolphins. are at the seven-yard line and probably A-chan in the game when the dolphins are at the four

of the five-yard line. So I don't know, A-chan's had 14 touchdown runs in 28 NFL games. He had eight in 11 games as a rookie. I think he could conceivably get it to like 10 or 12 this year. And I just, I think A-chan can be basically the spitting image of early career, Alvin Camara, in terms of his statistical output. And Camara averaged 102.7. scrimmage yards per game just under a touchdown per game over his first four seasons. I think A. Chan could give us those types of numbers. Do you think, like, so you're drafting him in this range, 14th overall, do you think RB6 is the right number?

Because there's a lot of names in that group, like Gentis RB4, Henry RB5, McCaffrey RB7, that various people like for various reasons. Is RB6 the right spot for A. Chan just amongst the position? I think it is. I have moved him up to RB5. And I'm fine with RB6. Like, I'm fine with. people who want to put Derek Henry, Christian McCaffrey ahead of them.

Yeah, but for me, he's RB5. Jake, what do you think? I have my RB6. I actually moved him up one spot recently with that change that Fitz was talking about. I am okay taking him. I have just in front of Jacobs, just in front of Taylor, Gentie, and Irvings, and down the rest, there's obviously five running backs in front of them. But nothing Fitz said, I disagree with it.

This is why we're drafting them, the upside the excitement for H. especially having Jono Smith out because of Johnnu and Waddle finally maybe playing the full season not banged up at some point in his legs throughout the entire year. But if all three were going to be healthy, then we would have had some concerns. The only concern left remaining, and this is just something to understand when you do draft A-chan is that this could go sideways if Tua's hurt again because he did not have but one single of his six single-digit performances. Only one of them came when Tua was that quarterback.

the other five were without him, both when Tua got hurt early in the season, and then when Tua was out for week 17. So, and he didn't even score 10 points and he in those games. So that's the concern here is that A-chan without Tua, this might be messy. And I know they have, like, you could argue a backup quarterback improvement this year, but I still would be hesitant to just to know that, like, hey, if you do draft A-Chane with your first running back, maybe you played a little bit safer with your second just because he could have R-B-2 value for the entire season if there's no two.

because at this point, you have to admit that Tua is an injury concern every single year, similar like a Jonathan Taylor. I know we're talking running back, but just to put that comparison out there. So I'm okay with it because I think that A-chan has RB1 potential if Tua-play the entire season. Like he could be the R-I-1, and I don't mean like RB1, like that obviously at six. I mean the RB-1 potential, but you're taking him at six because of that inherent risk. I feel like for me personally, like amongst the position, I would rather have Henry

because I feel like he has a similar ceiling, but a higher floor. Yeah, I'm in front of it. And I'd rather have McCaffrey because I think he has a similar floor, but a higher ceiling. Higher ceiling. Yeah. H. A. versus Genty, I find it be an interesting one in this tier.

Like, I could see myself going either way on that. But that does feel like the right range. So while I don't feel like he's, you know, some kind of screaming value where he's going right now, I do think it's the right spot. And I'm willing to draft him there. Full point PPR. You're still taking Henry over HN? I would. With an early pick like that, I just would rather have the floor.

And even a full point PPR, like if he doesn't get hurt, I think Henry's going to have a, Yeah, full-point PBR, Derek Henry generally hasn't had a massive drop-off in, like, where he ends up. I just think Henry's going to score so many touchdowns if he's healthy, like in this office. I don't think, I don't think anything is going to change from last year to this year, assuming he stays healthy. So I see that really high floor, and I'd rather have that than A-chan, even in full PPR. But I can totally understand the argument against it. Let's go to the next running back here. Kiron Williams, he is RB-11, and he's 24th overall in the rankings.

In terms of our tiers, to give a sense of it, A-chan was right in. the middle of tier two. Kiron, right at the top of tier three amongst guys like Chase Brown, Breece Hall, James Cook, and Kenneth Walker, other guys in that tier. But like I said, RB11, and I'll start with you this time, Jake. Are you drafting or passing? I chuckled because I haven't met RB11. And I actually have tier two of running backs.

I go further than that. I go down to 13. So Kiron's solidly in the same tier as McCaffrey and Henry and all the rest because, let's be honest, we've seen Kairn Williams finishes a top five running back. the risk is everything that you say about Kyron Williams is valid. And I mean you guys, I mean just everybody out there who the naysayers should be about, you know, volume reliant, efficient, lack of it. It just has to do with the McVeigh system, blah, blah, blah. What if McVeigh starts using somebody else? Although I've been on this podcast, you guys both

know this. I think we did it together a few weeks ago. It's like every single year, Sean McVeigh is drafting a running back on day two or day three and every single year he's talking somebody else up. You can copy paste Blake Corm for Jarquess Hunter and you can copy and paste those running backs for the previous ones talking the next man up, the next man up, the next man up. I don't think McVeigh is all of a sudden going to a committee. Is there a chance that the contract situation doesn't work itself out? Because that's the positive is that it sounds like they want to get a contract done. But if not, then does that lead to potentially two bad games in a row?

And then McVeigh does pull the rug out because that's the one thing that I will say is like, I don't believe he's going to go to a committee. But the one risk with McVe is that after two or three bad performances, he might turn to the next person. And it's not that I'm talent threat of Quorum or Hunter necessarily. It's just that I don't think you have to be a top five running back in McVeigh's system to put up top five numbers. And that's the risk is that he goes away from Kiron for a game and whoever he turns to, Coram or Hunter, do great because this McVeigh system, they put up a top 10 performance and then it's immediately changed from there on out. But that's why he's a back end RB1 and not top five.

because that's why I put him in this tier. His numbers, if you said of McCaffrey, Henry A. Chan and down the list and everybody, like, Kairn's right in there at the top of this tier at the end of the season. If he doesn't have the job lost, it wouldn't be a shock to anybody. We're just scared that he's going to lose the job. I think fits that Kairn is an interesting example of the type of player I've talked about before in the show where I think the ranking is probably correct, but I still don't anticipate drafting a lot of him.

And I think I would just rather wait and get Chase Brown as going. lower than him. Kenneth Walker, you know, a little further down lower than him. I think I'd just rather wait than take him, even if I think RB11 is about the right spot for him. Are you drafting or passing Kyron there? Yeah, the thing is where, like, if you wait, I mean, Kyran is going around that round two, three turn. So you're waiting until the round four or round five turn, and maybe those guys aren't really available. So I'm actually drafting him here. Kyron has finished RB2 and RB8s in a half-point PPR fantasy points per game the last two years. He was third in the NFL and rushing attempts last year, only behind Sequin Barclay and Derek Henry.

And over the last two years, Kyron has scored 31 touchdowns in 28 regular season games. I know Kyron wasn't very efficient last year, and it's a little scary to invest in him when the Rams keep drafting running backs. I mean, first Blake Corum last year than Charquess Hunter in this year's draft. But I do think the risk is sort of baked in at this price. You know, Kyron at the two three turn, like say you start with Jamar Chase at 101, you can maybe get Kyron and JSN at that two three turn. Like, yeah, I'm in for that.

I'm in. At that two, three turn, Jake, are you looking at Kyron or are you looking at like receiver or one of these early tight ends or something else? Most likely if I'm at the two three turn, probably running back wide receiver because you're saying like the one. two spot. I probably lean chase, maybe even Jefferson. You know how my feelings are with the running back situation. I'd rather be at the back end of the first round so I can get a McCaffrey or Henry or A-Chin or something like that. But because there's a good chance if you're talking about

at the turn, whether the first or second pick, I probably went chase or Chase Jefferson or whatever it might be. So I do want to, my inherent draft strategy is to get a running back in my first two slash three rounds, depending on where I'm picking. I'm not going to be beholden to it as in the back that nine running, 10, 11, 12 running backs go off the board. And as Fitz is saying, you know, we're already blown through Chase Brown. And now you're talking about I have to take Chuba Hubbard at that spot, which I don't hate Chuba Hubbard, just not at the two, three turn. I'd rather take him at the end of the third round. So I could see myself falling into a Y receiver, wide receiver, wide receiver, wide receiver start depending on the board falls. But if Kyrin is there,

I would smash draft that. It's a good point by you guys and Fitz on the idea of like, even if I might like Walker at RB15 better than Kyron at RB11, you know, chances are I won't be on the clock with both of those as options. Right. So it's a fair point there. When you're thinking about your own draft strategy, you can master your draft strategy by testing it out in minutes using our draft simulator. The draft simulator allows you to practice quick and fun, realistic mock drafts based

on your league settings in minutes. Sink your league for free and try it today at fantasy pros.com slash mock or download the fantasy football draft. Wizard app. All right. Next running back up here. Somebody who I think, well, there will just be a lot of conversation about this player, I think, in the next two months on our show, on other shows.

He's just an interesting player who was a first rounder a year ago and who is now, you know, down to RB 13, 33rd overall towards the back end of the third round. And Fitz, that's Breece Hall. Are you drafting or passing on Hall where he's going? Even though the price is coming down, I'm passing. I don't love fading talented players, but I'm just not that interested in spending a third round pick on Brees Hall. Aaron Glenn has said repeatedly that the Jets are going to use all of their running backs this year. He just keeps saying that over and over.

So it seems like it's going to be a committee with Brees Hall, Braylon Allen, and Isaiah Davis. And I also wonder how much pass catching upside Brees Hall is going to have with Justin Fields, a mobile quarterback whose running backs did not catch a ton of passes. when Fields was in Chicago. I mean, that's normally one of the things that makes Hall appealing. He's had it was 57 catches last year, 76 the year before that. I don't know if he's getting a 50 catches this year with Justin Fields. And Hall had a really good, like, he had trouble against good defenses last year.

He faced four run defenses that were top 10 in DVOA against the run. He averaged 34.8 rushing yards per game, three yards per carry. in those four games. So just a collection of things about Breece Hall that are kind of troubling me. I'm just going to draft around him, I think, this year. Jake, what do you think? I thought Ryan Heath on the show, you and I taped with him earlier this week, made a compelling case for why, despite red flags,

he is kind of coming around on the idea of drafting Breece Hall. Do you lean more on that side or more on Fitz's side of passing on him here? At cost, I'm with Fitz. That's actually why he chuckled when he answered, because I'm figuring out at what point we're going to actually disagree. far in the show. But I actually have them a few spots back at running back. Not by much, but because of that, there's other wide receivers, including his teammate that I would take in front of them. I actually have more as like a back fourth round pick than in this range. So it's not that I'm completely out on

Brees Hall, just the names he's going around, especially at wide receiver. But to bring up what you said with Ryan, too, you know, everybody talks about Tanner Engstron and being able to improve the passing game and everything like that. Well, coming from the Lions, you could kind of create your own narrative to back up what you're saying. I'm not saying that's what Fitz is doing. I'm just saying for everybody out there. For Ingstrand, coming from the Lions, well, what do they do? Use two running backs. But at the same time, the passing game coordinator passes to the running backs. Well, you can say, who's the better pass catcher between Hall and Braylon Allen? It's Hall. So does he become Gibbs and Allen becomes Montgomery if he follows the Lions plan? I put, you know, put that kind of in quotes.

Like, is that what we're going to see? But at the same time, Justin Fields is going to take his own. Justin Fields, Fitz just brought it up. And there's that conversation. too is like is it the chicken or the egg is it the fact that Justin Fields doesn't throw a lot to his running backs because of the collection of talent he had at running back over the years or is it just that's not who he is and I think it's a little bit of both honestly but all that being said is I actually come down the middle on both of those statements like I think Justin Fields can throw more to his running backs but I don't think it's going to be Drew Breeze-esque level where he's targeting him all the time and that's just they're running routes all the time at the same time I

I think you could also see Engstrand to improve the game, but also have both running backs involved. And this is just not even accounting for also. Fitz is right. Isaiah Davis, I thought, was one of the better values in the draft class. And I hated that they got Alan and Isaiah Davis in this backfield, which all leads to that's the risk of Bruce Hall. So you tell me one round later, I'll buy in. But at this price, just because I don't think it's associated enough risk with him, I'm probably out. I feel like, and Fitz, I'm curious if you think this is a sound strategy.

Like I will be comfortable if I miss out on Breece Hall because I pass on him in the third round. But if I can get him, even in like the early fourth, I feel like I do want to have some Breece Hall and not totally miss out if the talent just like he kind of bounces back and looks like the guy we expected a year ago. I don't want to totally miss out on that. So I feel like I'll be hoping to get him maybe more like the early fourth. But then if I miss out because I pass on him in the third, I'll be okay with that. I forget where you said you exactly have him ranked fits. but does that feel like a sound or strategy, do you? It does feel like a sound strategy worm.

Let's see. I've got, so I've got Brees, not that far off from, well, I'm pretty much in line with where his consensus ADP is, just as far as the overall, sort of that later third round. But, man, I just, I like the options around him more. Like, I'd even consider, I think I'd rather have a premium quarterback over Brees. And you know, you're going to get one. of Lamar Jacks and Josh Allen, Jaden Daniels, at least being there, I think. I think I'd rather have like Mike Evans there, maybe even Tyreek Hill.

Yeah, I'm just, I'm not in a breeze this year. Let's go to a running back that I feel like has been brought up on this show a lot that people are against. I'm curious you guys are going to agree again. Jake, I'll start with you. James Cook, RB 14, and that's one spot behind Breeze Hall positionally. He's a few spots further down in overall. he's 39th in the overall rankings on ECR. James Cook, are you drafting or passing?

At this spot, I am drafting is almost right in line with my rankings, mostly because I think we've associated enough risk to pull James Cook down to not even being an RB1, which it just was. I think everybody on Earth is like, you cannot have that touchdown percentage again. This goes back to, if you remember, Matt Ryan and the Falcons of like that high touchdown rate that they had that year. I just think it was 2018 and it was like everybody can't happen again. And it didn't. But at the same time, like, you can pull back from it and still have a really good season.

Like, I think we've all drafters, rankers, whatever you want to put out there, have put enough out that James Cook is not going as what he just finished as, not even close. I mean, you're talking about almost full two rounds later than what he should. If you just replicated last year, you'd be like, well, he's a second rounder. But nobody's taking him there, which is why I'm kind of okay with this, because what if James Cook still rushes for 10 and I've given the same rushing touchdown? Even eight, he's still a mid to top end RB2. So I think we've talked up enough and I say we is on this show and everybody else out

there have talked up enough that like we understand math, we understand football, we understand regression. It's likely that he doesn't come close to last year. But at the same time, even if you chopped off six rushing touchdowns and I said this when we were talking to Ryan Heath, you're still talking about a top end RB2. six touchdowns is a big drop off. So at this cost, I'm okay. Now, if we're talking a month from now and it starts to pull back up because everybody's like saying the same thing and contracts and everything's fine with James Cook and all of a sudden he's going back inside the top 10, then I'll probably be out.

But I think right now we've associated enough, like this Carmen, we've associated enough risk to say it's okay to take him here in my opinion. Fitz, what do you think? Yeah, I mean, so I guess this is our first point of disagreement, Jake and I, but it's a pretty mild point of disagreement. because he's just kind of a gentle fade for me. And, you know, Jake just made the point about touchdown regression. I think we all know that's coming. So that's fine. But, you know, like one of the reasons I think he's getting nowhere near 18 touchdowns

and is probably going to be closer to the six he had in his second year is that Josh Allen calls his own number near the goal line so much. And it kind of amazes me still that Cook was able to score 18 touchdowns last year when you consider how much Josh Allen likes to run and scored quite a few rushing touchdowns himself last year. There's also another way in which Josh Allen could limit James Cook. Like, Alan just does not throw to his running backs all that much. And that's so often the case with the mobile QBs. They just don't check down when they can run on their own.

And even though Cook is a really good pass catcher who might have 50 or 60 reception upside in different circumstances, his single season high in receptions is 38. So we know Cook isn't going to be a workhorse rusher because he weighs under 200 pounds. And his single season high in rushing attempts is 237. And at least for the time being, we also have to worry about this contract in past Cook has where he wants a new deal and the bills don't seem inclined to give him one. But even if that gets squared away, I think I'm going to be out on Cook this year. You completely chop his touchdowns in half. he's still RB 16 to 18.

And RB 16 overall RB 18 to points per game. So that's why I'm saying like maybe he needs to go another spot or two later. But that's like even drop it in half. He's still top 18, whatever you want to count them as. What is the point fits that you would take? Because I know you've been fading him throughout draft season. At what point would you say no, this is the time to pull the trigger? I mean, I'm not that far off.

So he's RB 14, 39 overall. I've got him RB 15. 42 overall. It's just I like a few other guys in that range a little better. And I'm probably picking like, let me see who I've just in front of him. There's a group of five, I feel like, and for while you're looking fits, I kind of like, Cook, Camara, Hubbard, Hall and Connor. Like, I feel like those five are all like kind of that group of, wow, if everything goes right, they could be top 10, but they have the risk to fall to like into the 20s. Yeah. Yeah, that's fair. I mean, I think the guys I'm taking just ahead of him in that range are like Camara, you know, Terry McLaurin, Tyreek.

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I don't think we even really know yet whether Benson is any good, to be honest. And Conner is a pretty favorable schedule, which is what I like, especially early in the season. Cardinals open with the Saints, Panthers, and 49ers who were among the six worst teams, as far as fantasy points allowed to running backs last season. And Conner's matchups in weeks four through seven are bad either. Seahawks, Titans, Colts, Packers. So he could get off to a really fast start. I'm drafting Connor.

Jake, James Connor, RB19, 50th overall, like I said. Any worry about Trey Benson or are you drafting him here? I'm not worried about Trey Benson. I think Trey Benson is a nice pick to take as a late round flyer of the excitement that people had for Benson last year was all baked into the fact of James Connor could miss time like he does every single year. He actually, James Connor had one of the healthiest seasons in a long time and came the closest. I think he hasn't a long time also to play in a full season. But that's why he's going this late.

You're telling me, James Connor is my RB2, and I can take him at the 4-5 turn. As Fitz just said, he was an RB1 in points per game. When James Connor is on the field, James Connor's producing the risk of him missing time. We all know it's real. But let me ask everybody out there watching this and listening to somebody that I've brought up before on this very show. Everybody's like, oh my God, I'm scared of James Connor. Let's push him all the way down here. And I'm not saying to push this guy as far.

but at what point is Jonathan Taylor not in the same conversation of three years straight. We're talking about injuries and we still want to take Jonathan Taylor as a top 20 pick, possibly pushing the first round. Like, again, I'm not saying push Jonathan Taylor that far, but Jonathan Taylor should be down a little bit further and James Connor should be up a little bit further because we're doing the same thing. They're both talents that can finish top 10 points per game, both with injury risks except one's coming, in my opinion, as supreme value.

We are back to it in full agreement. What do you think about that comparison fits to Jonathan Taylor? I agree. I mean, I love JT. You know, I'm a Wisconsin guy. So I will cape up for him. I do think he's one of the best peer runners in the game. But yes, like these ankle injuries have become problematic for JT.

And I'm sort of baking that into where I rank him. The next mid-round running back here, David Montgomery. He's R.B. 2155th overall. So a very similar range to James Connor. Jake, I'll start with you on this one. Are you drafting or passing down? David Montgomery. Yeah, I'll make mine a little bit quick this time because we just talked about him on

the previous show that you mentioned with Ryan Heath. And in this range, I'm out on David Montgomery. I am in the mid-20s, and I know everybody in the comments are coming for it. Like, ah, you know, it's good. David Montgomery was actually top 15 in points per game, which is fine. And I get it. I understand. But, like, we're just assuming that everything's going to be just as good as it's

always been for the Lions. Ragnow, one of the best in the league, is gone. they have issues to concern with with the coaching staff and the offensive line. I'm not saying they can't be the lions again, but you have to accept the fact that there is some risk. And you're talking about some risk for the second piece. Like that's the thing is he's the RB2 on the team. He's not the RB1.

So I'm just never going to take a timeshare running back, which is as great as he is. I'm not discounting Dave Montgomery and how great he's been at all. But I'm just never going to take a two as a near-time. top 15 price, similar to like, I think while Devante Adams is a great value at Y receiver because he can be or Y receiver one with Pooka Nakuwa, I'm still not going to draft Devante Adams as a top 12 Y receiver just because he can do it. So I'm just out at this cause. If he was going where I have him in the mid-20s, I would take him. But I have clear, I have starters in front of him and Isaiah Pacheco and stuff like that. And if somebody wants to argue

Pacheco behind Montgomery, I get it because of the risk there. But at my point being is I'm going to take a started running back over the second piece of a timeshare. What do you think about this one? Fiss, how good does this offense need to be for the RB2 to be a successful fantasy pick where Montgomery is going? You nailed a worm because so much of Montgomery's value has been touchdown related. The last two years, he scored 25 touchdowns in 28 regular season games. And the Lions led the NFL in scoring last year, and I believe they were fifth two years ago. So they would need to be top five.

scoring again, I think, for Montgomery to hit double digits in touchdowns, again, most likely. And do we expect this Detroit offense to continue its high-flying ways with no more Ben Johnson, no more Frank Ragnow, as Jake just mentioned? And look, if you guys were in charge of the Detroit offense and had Jemir Gibbs at your disposal, would you be giving some other running back almost as many touches as Gibbs? Like, I just, I wonder if Campbell and new offensive coordinator, John Morton, might allocate the backfield touches a little differently than Johnson did because Gibbs is such a special player. I mean, we're talking about record-ish setting type of offense last year.

And if everybody wants to come for James Cook, then why aren't we coming from David Montgomery just pointing out even you copy pace last year's lions even then, like it's Ben Johnson still with the team. Ragnar hasn't retired. Even then we should be acknowledging there's some touchdown inherent regression risk. That's just got to be part of it. I also wonder if like the cat's kind of out of the bag on Gibbs. Not that we really ever thought he needed a 1B for him to be a successful 1A, but we saw when Montgomery was hurt last year that he has absolutely no problems handling a large workload and being an absolute superstar.

And I wonder if like the lines just look at that and say like kind of what you just said, Fitz, like, hey, we're running this thing. We don't have to defer to the genius of Ben Johnson. Why wouldn't we just give him all the touches to Jamir Gibbs? It seems so obvious, right? For us, at least. So I wonder if they kind of have more faith in his ability to handle just a full-time workload and not need David Montgomery to spell him. And again, not that we were worried about that before, but just now that we've seen it,

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fantasy pros.com slash assistant or on the fantasy football draft wizard app. All right. next player here fits Tyrone Tracy, RB 32, 90th overall. So moving further down in ADP here and in the rankings, is he somebody that you're drafting or passing 90th overall RB 32? Oh, man, you're starting with me. I mean, I know, I know Jake has forsworn his allegiances to the Giants, but still I know he's got his finger on the pulse. So I'm anxious to see what he said. I think I'm drafting Tyrone Tracy here just because ambiguous backfields can be a rich source of fantasy value, potentially. Like the ambiguity holds down prices.

And if you've got the right guy in an ambiguous backfield, you can turn a big profit. And if you get the wrong guy, you either keep him on the bench or wave him. And it's not that painful because you didn't pay much. So I really have no idea how Brian Daibble is going to divide the work between Tracy and Cam Scadabo. and the Giants do still have Devin Singletary, I guess. But Tracy's versatility should keep him involved and give him multiple paths to fantasy value. He's a good pass catcher. He was college wide receiver to start off his career.

And he was pretty good as a runner last year, too, other than the fumbling issue. So, yeah, I think I'm on Tracy at RB 32. RB 32, yeah. Yeah, 32. Jake, what do you think? What do you make of the backfield with Scatibu there now? Does RB32 sound right for Tracy 90th overall? Are you drafting or passing?

So I'm going to save the second part of your question because I'm going to start it off with saying that people by now, if they've been watching these shows, no, I am on Scataboo more than I am on Tracy. Because I think what he brings in, I know some people will draw the comparison to their size. And that's very true. They are similar size. But that doesn't mean they're similar styles. Like you can be the same size and just different basketball players. Like size doesn't always mean everything. And I know they talk about the explosiveness for Tracy and that I'm not taking that away from him.

But Scataboo, despite their being similar sizes, Scadaboo was gotten by what, five or 10 pounds. He is between the tackles better runner. He is somebody that when you watch him play, you can see the difference between how they run. You can also see the difference of how their legs are used and they churn that being scataboo's. So I do think the giants need more of that. I think that you saw Tracy as good as he was last year, as surprising as he was to some people. and this is coming from somebody that was in on Tracy last year, is that you still went back to single,

that not you, as in Brian Gable still went back to Singletary at times, just to bring that other dimension. It's not like Singletary is amazing between the tackles. It was just kind of another complimentary piece to each other. And then also the fact that Tracy fumbled, like that. That's something that Daibald is not going to put up with.

So I say all that to say is that I do have Scataboo in front of Tracy. And Tracy was going higher just a month. ago, but I find it interesting, something to lean into what Fitz said here is that if we're going to start having Tracy's ADP drop, two things either happen is one, it shouldn't be happening. If everybody's going to stick on Tracy and say that he has all this explosiveness after the touch, blah, blah, blah, blah, then he shouldn't be dropping or two, if we're going to drop him, why isn't Scatibu going up? Like, somebody is going to finish inside the top 30, probably to top 25.

Can't be both ways. Like, he can't drop Tracy and just leave Scatibu way down there by like R.B. 39 or 40. That makes no sense. So I'm presenting all that to say is, as much as somebody that's on Scatibu over Tracy, at this price, I'll draft Tracy too. I think it's very similar to that you can make the argument to the Steelers situation where, heck, it's going to frustrate sometimes, but maybe both of them just have fringe RB2 value and you're starting either one of them as your flex running back a lot of weeks. Jake, just to be clear, like you would not ever want to have both of these guys on your roster. I wouldn't want to. Yeah, I mean, because it's, it doesn't

seem like it's going to be an either or. It seems like it's going to be both to some degree. But at least Tracy at 32 for Tracy and Scadaboo is going to sit down at 39 or 40. I'm not aiming to do it. I don't want to do it, but I would take both at the cost and then, hey, guess what? Maybe one hits and then the other doesn't. But at least at that cost, you're talking about two round separation of them that in that range, as you brought up as one of your main points, and I'm not saying you're arguing me. I'm echoing your point is they are bench pieces. If one of them ends up taking a clear lead, even if it's Tracy, you're going to benefit because they're bench pieces. Yeah. Let's go to one more mid-round running back. Travis E.TN. He's RB 34. Jake, I'll start with you on this one, 95th overall draft or pass.

I'm drafting. I've been on Travis E.TN saying that he was the top five running back just two years ago. And I know a lot of that happened on the first half of that season. It hasn't been very pretty since. but I also look at this backfield and there's going to be a running back that we talk about at some point that I'll say for this that I don't think is a factor in this backfield. But also, as much as Tudin's involved here, it's the Tyron Tracy thing all over again is there's already fumbling issues that we knew about that are already presenting themselves in camp. And there's already been talk of Liam coming to this team. And whatever he does with this backfield, and I know a lot of people want Tuton to be the Bucky Irving. And I'm not saying that's a non-zero chance of happening. But there's also a non-zero chance that ETN just goes back to being good and is the lead

and that Tutin's no more of a complimentary third down passing game piece, who by the way would also have to do most of his without the pass blocking piece of being in on third downs because that's a major concern for Tutin to begin with where this could be an entire committee. But again, as a bench piece, if ETN gets 250 touches, I mean, if we're all excited about Cohen on what he can do for this offense, then 250 touches, even if they're not the prettiest 250 touches, is going to be a boost to his value at this cost. It starts to, we get more bad news about Tutin. We get more of ETN. Looks like he does two years ago. And ETN starts creeping inside the top 25 running max. That's a different story. But at this price, again, it's a bench piece. I'm going to

gamble on the bench piece that as of right now is the leader in this backfield. What do you think fits? You know what I said about leaning into ambiguous backfields? Well, I'm really not doing that here with ETN. And it's weird because, I mean, man, like Jake said it. There was that sort of cutoff point for ETN in 2023 where he was fabulous for the first half of that season. He was averaging like 20 PPR points a game, I think, through the first seven or eight weeks. And then just kind of a downturn, like not a go over the cliff downturn, but just clear downturn. He went to like 13 PPR points a game.

He was sliding down a hill. Yeah, definitely. And like last year he was just objectively bad. Like 3.7 yards per carry. He only forced 17 missed tackles all season. He averaged minus 0.28 rushing yards over expected per carry. So he was getting less than was expected of him given the circumstances on average. Average just one yard per route run in the passing game, which is, you know, pretty bad for a running back.

He is a free agent after this year. And the Jaguars drafted not one but two running backs. They got Tutin in the 4th and LeQuint Allen in the 7th. The Jaguars still have Tank Bigsby who's coming off a pretty strong year where tanks' efficiency metrics just blew ETNs away. And this looks like a backfield by committee. And Tank Bigsby is really the only guy whose role looks somewhat predictable because he's the best inside runner in this backfield. And I think it's a safe bet that Bigsby gets a pretty healthy share of the game. early down snaps.

But like who gets the rest of those early down snaps and who plays on passing downs? Because I think the two rookies pose a much bigger threat to ETN's role than they do to Bigsby's role. I want to let everybody know that they can join us live on Twitch Tuesday at 4 p.m. Eastern for fantasy football draft court. Two analysts battle it out over players. They highly disagree on with Joe as the judge and you as the jury. Join the courtroom fun at twitch.tv slash fantasy pros and cast your vote.

on every player debate. All right, guys, let's do a quick lightning round. This will be, Would You Rather, I'll throw two names your way. You can give me a quick thought and why you're going one way.

Or the other, a couple of these names have come up already just in talking about some of the other players that we've dove a little more deep into. Got a handful of, Would you rather, here, though. Fitz Josh Jacobs or Jonathan Taylor?

Jacobs. Packers ran the ball really effectively last year. Jacobs looked terrific in that offense, and I worry about that. ankle issues with Jonathan Taylor. Also, just not much pass catching upside there. He had 18 catches in 14 games last year. Jake, Jacobs or Taylor?

Yeah, Jacobs won spot in Taylor. And just basically what it fits said, but especially the passing game. And if everybody's going to be talking about how miserable the quarterbacks are going to be for the Colts, well, then let's just take the one thing we know in Jordan Love. How about Aaron Jones or D'Andre Swift, Jake? Oh, can I pass? At cost, I'm going to take DeAndre Swift. I think that Jordan Mason is a serious threat to Aaron Jones.

I don't mean just like if Aaron Jones gets hurt. I think we're seeing Aaron Jones kind of downturn at this point of this career where I think Swift is a risk, but at least I don't expect Swift to get 65% of the touches. I think like Swift is just going to be the lead of a timeshare, whether it's Johnson or a non guy with him. But I think I'll take Swift given off the fact of the cost between the two. Fitz? I'll take Jones.

I think he's still good. You know, he gets a boost playing in Kevin O'Connell's offense, running behind a refurbished offensive line. The Vikings really made some major repairs in the middle of that line. I'm still not entirely sure how good D'Andre Swift is. And it seems like we should know that by now. And there are just a lot of unknowns with the Chicago offense under Ben Johnson. So I'll take Jones.

But, yeah, like, I don't know. Do you guys feel like definitively that Swift is good? I don't think we know. No, I think he's above replacement, but I do think that Ben Johnson. Look, I know everybody talks about what happened with him with the lines, but the one thing that was telling is, at least he's going to be the past catcher. That's the good news here. That's why I would take Swift. Joe Mixon or Kenneth Walker fits.

A Walker. I mean, if he can stay healthy, he is going to thrive in Clint Kubiak system. It gets a system that's heavy on outside zone, and that is right up Walker's alley. Mixon is just a total stayaway for me this year. Like Houston's offensive line might be the worst in the league. And now Mixon has competition for touches with the signing of Nick Chubb and the drafting of Jaquavius Woody Marks. Jake.

I like that you included his entire name. And this is Walker by a mile for me. This is the super. Like you said, by the way, staying healthy. Well, somebody's not healthy right now. And between the two of them is Joe Mixon. Travion Henderson or Caleb Johnson, a couple of rookies. Jake, who would you rather?

Oh, I got Trayvion Henderson by a big gap. Actually, there's a section that we were going to talk about the players that were targeting heavy in draft. And I would have said Trayon Henderson, but I've said them way too much at this point. I'm going to have a ton of Trayvion Henderson this year. You know, I feel I do think he's explosive. I think he can do so much. And I know people are worried about a timeshare.

I'm not that worried about Remandre Stevenson and Tonyo Gibson and the rest. And even if I brought it up before, James White, oh, by the way, the last player without a 210 touch season. to finish as a top 15 running back. And what? The Patriots offense with a very similar system to what they're running back there because they're all back again to McDaniels. So I don't need Trevi on Henderson to have 270 touches to have top 15 value.

Fits? I mean, for me, it's much closer. I also have Henderson ranked higher, but only by one spot. Because I could see Caleb thriving. Like, they're just going to cast him into this vacated not. Yeah, exactly. Does it make it feel better than I have? have them in the same tier. I just have Henderson as the first in the tier and Caleb Johnson,

the last of is the tier. Totally fair, Jake. Yeah, I mean, like, I do feel this could go either way. I could see Caleb having a 10 touchdown season, but I have to give Trayvion an edge because I think he's going to be much more involved as a pass catcher than Caleb Johnson will be. How about Quinn Sean Judkins, another rookie obviously, or Isaiah Pacheco fits. Oh, man, another tight one for me. I've got Pacheco ranked RB 28, Quinn Sean, RB 29. I'm giving Pacheco a mulligan for last year, came back from a fractured leg in less than three months. So not surprising that he was kind of a shell of himself when he came back. I just, I have so many questions about the Cleveland offense, and I actually think Dylan

Sampson, like it annoys me to no end that the Browns took like two running backs I loved from this class. And, you know, they might be competing for tushes. Jake? Yeah, I'm the same on this one, mostly because Jackins, not only. has Samson, but we're just already casting his side drum forward, which deservedly. So you're going to talk about pure talent, but it's not like he can't be a factor, but let's also just go back to one thing.

If you're going to take the leaders of both teams, assuming Lee Pacheco and Junkins, who are going to take? You're going to take the better offense. So if we're going to risk on Pacheco bouncing back, everybody knows that I like Breschart Smith as a passing game weapon, but if Pichieco looks anything like he did pre-injury, and Fitz, weren't you the one that I even said that, like, if Pichieco would have never played last year, wouldn't we be ranking him higher because it would be the unknown of the optimism? Like, we would have rather not see him look bad last year than to see him. So I would take

Pacheco just because if he's anything like he was pre-injury, you're going to take him on that team. Last one here in the lightning round, Jake starting with you, Ramondre Stevenson or Javante Williams? Javante Williams. I, like I just brought up, it was mostly because of the Trebion-Henderson thing. I think that they've been looking for a reason to get away from Stevenson. and Stevenson looked pretty awful for good portions of last season, not the entire year, but good portions of it. So much so that Antonio Gibson was getting to start over him.

We saw when that happened. So I'm going to take the chance. Giovante Williams, we brought it up with the show that we did with Ryan Heath. If, if, if, if he's anything like he was pre-injury. But the good news is he's not even going as a top 30 running back. So he doesn't look good in the first two or three weeks, you drop him and move on. The worst thing that's going to happen with Romer J. Stevenson is he stays. is part of the timeshare and then you're just holding them on your bench and be like,

well, maybe you can pull back. No, you can just draft Javante and either you get the answer or you move on, which is probably the more appealing part of not having to deal with Ramantra Stevenson. Oh, yeah, I am all over Javante Williams at his current cost. Fitz, would you rather have Javante or Romandre? Javante. I mean, Ramandre is now clearly the second best guy in the New England backfield behind Trevion. And Javante, he says he's just starting to feel like his old self after that knee injury in 2022 where he tore his ACL and LCL, if he's back to 100%, it's possible he takes the lead RB job in Dallas and just runs with it. All right, we're going to wrap up the show with one running back from each of you that you are drafting everywhere and one running back from each of you that you are fading everywhere. Fits, who is your must have that you are drafting everywhere?

All right. I think I'm going to get an amen from Jake on this because it's Jordan Mason, just heard Jake say, that he'd rather have Mason at cost than Aaron Jones. I'm actually interested in both of the Vikings running backs, but at their respective costs, I do think I like Mason a little bit more. His ADP last I checked was RB 35. Mason is just a really good fit for the Vikings. Another team that runs a lot of outside zone, which is totally in Mason's wheelhouse. And let's not forget how good Mason was. Filling in for the injured Christian McCaffrey in San Francisco early last season before getting hurt himself, Mason averaged 107 rushing yards.

the 49ers over their first five games. And I think Mason could have some standalone value this year, and he would absolutely become a winning lottery ticket, if anything happened to Jones. Yeah. Jake, who's your must-have running back, you're drafting everywhere? Somebody also got hurt last year,

but also a lot of people were excited for and then just didn't hit for multiple reasons. But Jaylon Wright, like we're all just, you know, Rahim Moster's gone. The backup job is his, and it's not just going to be a backup job. but everything's right with the dolphins, right is going to be used weekly where, you know, maybe you fill them in at a flex spot depending on your buys or injuries or whatever.

And if anything were to happen to Achan at this point, which he's been nicked up a few times already through his career. I think Jalen Wright's excitement from last year should not have been forgotten for this year. Where he's going right now is honestly criminal. Like it's just the upside for him is clearly top 20, if not more of something were to happen to Achan. Fitz, who are you fading everywhere? Oh, we touched on him a little bit earlier.

He took the layup. It is a layup. It's Joe Mixon. I mean, it's just the Texans have a bad offensive line. Like, they have not gotten that line much help in the offseason. They brought in Nick Chubb. They drafted Woody Marks. Mixon is about to turn 29, so the age cliff is starting to loom.

I'm just staying away. Jake, who are you fading everywhere? It's funny. You know, earlier Fitz brought this player up, and he talked positively, but we disagree on the final player a little bit. I'm just out on Tank Bigsby. And mostly because I just don't know that if everything even hits, you know, like people bring up the holes changing or the coaching situation, the past catching option,

well, even as bad as Rashard White was, he was still used in the passing game, that being for the bucks, where I just don't see a lot of value in the non-pass catching running back. Bigsby's role might be secure. You might be completely right about that fits because LeQuint Allen, I think, actually has some Rashad White similarities to his game to bring him up in the fact but I think that you're seeing that it's the ETN that can do it all but basically we haven't seen that ETN in a while but you have the explosiveness in the passing game of Tutin. You have a Rashad White type of player and Clint Allen and watch him be the answer to this entire

quagmire here. But the one role that I just have no appeal in is the one that isn't going to be used in the passing game that is just the runner because it is the Cohen offense. So I'm just kind of out on Bigsby because I just don't see a ceiling with him. Even though he's right, that being fits, he did look better than ETN did last year. But I agree with you, Jake. Like, I'm not really necessarily, like I think Bigsby is going to have a set role in the offense. I just don't think it's really a fantasy relevant role because he is a complete zero as a pass catcher. And we don't know that he's going to be like a 10 touchdown guy either.

Like we can't, we can't assume that he's going to get a lot of touchdown opportunities. All right, we'll go ahead and wrap things up there. A lot of different running back names we hit on in this episode. Hope everybody appreciated it. For Jake and Fitz, I'm Ryan Warmly. Thanks for tuning in. We'll see you again next time. Thanks for listening to the Fantasy Pros Fantasy Football Podcast.

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