The Herd with Colin Cowherd - FantasyPros - Does Christian McCaffrey Belong In The 1st Round? | PPR Mock Draft (Ep. 1609)

Episode Date: July 13, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:42 That's right. We are flexing our muscles, getting and trading the 2025 fantasy football season. And to help us today, Andrew Erickson, the Undertaker, D-Bro, Derek Brown, the King of Bros. And my favorite man in the world, Scott Bogman, the three best friends that anybody could have.
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Starting point is 00:01:52 We have, I'm at the sixth spot. I'm going to go try to host and draft from the middle, which is going to be difficult. Andrew's at the nine, D-Bros at the 12, and number one, Scott Bogman, you're at the very top. How does that feel, my friend? I mean, I was the last one to pick, and you jerks all clumped together at the back end.
Starting point is 00:02:11 So I was like, let me just get as far away from these clowns as I can. I think that's the best strategy for me. Clumped together. It's not like we're 8, 9, 10. I don't understand what you're talking about. Six, nine, 12. Give me five spots away from these guys. All right.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Boy, oh, boy. D-Broll, I think those are fighting words. What do you think? Oh, he's cracking the knuckles. I'm ready. I hope you can hear that on the audio version of the show. Andrew Erickson, speaking of leg day, what do you squatting these days? Just out of curiosity.
Starting point is 00:02:41 You can't spell legendary without leg day. Oh, Lord. He differs. He defers. He doesn't want to answer. Asking this question. That was, yeah, I mean, if I let you talk the rest of the show, it'll be a miracle. I can tell you after that.
Starting point is 00:02:55 All right. Again, today where you have one quarterback, two running backs, three wides. a tight end and we've also got a flex spot six benches that's how we're rolling today so again full ppr style so we'll see with the different strategies we're going to enact but the one strategy you should absolutely enact before as bogman is on the precipice of making his first selection here is to make sure that you like this video subscribe to the fantasy pros and youtube feed and drop your comments below because we are giving away a james cook bill's jersey that's right we are giving that away to you from pristine auction dot com or
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Starting point is 00:03:47 All right, Boggs, the whole draft is yours. And you selected whom? Jamar Chase. I mean, I don't love taking a bangle there as a Steelers fan, but you have to. He's paired with one of the best. best quarterbacks in the league in Joe Burrow. They still have no defense. He's coming off his best season.
Starting point is 00:04:05 It's Jamar Chase, number one with a bullet here. Okay, so Jamar Chase off the board. The rest of the draft continues on. Bejohn, C.D. Lam, Malik neighbors, Justin Jefferson. It's a second draft in a row where Jefferson almost made it to like the fifth and six spot. Interesting. Very interesting.
Starting point is 00:04:21 I took Jamir Gibbs at 106. Puka Nakua goes at 107. Sequan Barkley at 108. And then Mr. Legday, you took somebody who I don't think skips leg day very regularly. It's Christian McCaffrey. The question is, can those legs hold up? PPR, you passed on. You can't do leg day. You passed on Amon Ra on Brian Thomas to take the running back. Erickson, walk us through here. Well, a lot of it has to do with, I like the running backs more that I can get at this pick than the receivers. So, or I like the
Starting point is 00:04:52 receivers more I can get in round two. So when I come back to my pick here at the 204, I'm looking at the receivers here still available on the board. And I like a lot of these guys still, AJ Brown, Latin McConkey. So some other guys in the back end of that top 12 that I still feel really good about. Maybe they don't have a wide receiver one overall finishes in their range of outcomes. But again, Drake London, I think, would also fall here in most drafts that Debrose not in. So that's something else to kind of consider as well. So I just like the combo of running back first and then receiver in round two versus the other way around. So for me, it's, I can double-tap Christian McCaffrey and then go with a guy like AJ Brown and run two.
Starting point is 00:05:29 And you have a clever team name today, I believe, too. What's your team name that you're going with today? This is courtesy of the Fantasy Pros name team name generator, and it's, I think I pulled McCaff. So also staying on brand with Christian McCaffrey as my first round. To make sure that that was out there since you drafted McCaffrey. Team 10 selects, I'm on Raw. And then Brian Thomas Jr.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Dart Vader, aka Derek Brown, at the end of his rounds here at 112. at 112 and 201, you went double tap and wide receiver. Let's talk about it. Well, first of all, shout out to Andrew Erickson for the Star Wars name article yearly. Pulled my name directly from there. And second of all, man, we're starting in this league with three wide receivers. I love the back end of the first round why I picked the turn because there's just a litany of players there that have very close to first round profiles where we could see top five upside. So going two wide receivers here, I mean, Nico Collins and Drake London.
Starting point is 00:06:24 both definitively have that upside in them to be top five wide receivers. So where we're starting three wide receivers, going two right here. I like a lot of the running backs I can get action with with rounds three to five. So I'm just waiting on the position. I didn't need a name generator. I just came up with a clever one on myself. Mine is, can he picket? Yes, he can, which is a little throwback to the old school days,
Starting point is 00:06:47 a little bit of old school hip hop for you for the fans out there. Let's go with Josh Jacobs, a 202, Ashton Gentie. a 203 and then, uh, you said it, Andrew, you like the wide receivers. AJ Brown was a guy you got a 204. Yeah. So I like his upside in these Eagles passing him. I think it's going to be a little bit more reliant on the pass in 2025 than in 2024 where they were able to really establish wrong, Sequin, play with leads.
Starting point is 00:07:15 I think they throw the ball a little bit more. And I think that benefits AJ Brown, who is the alpha in this passing attack. Okay, there you go. Very nice situation there. Let's move on to the next couple picks, Devon A-Chann at 205, Brock Bowers at 206. I took Garrett Wilson at 207 there. Last year, last time I checked, was a guy that everybody was coveting and couldn't talk nicer about. Now it's like everyone's forgotten about him.
Starting point is 00:07:38 He was still wide receiver 10 last year. He had 101 receptions, 11004 yards. I know Justin Fields is there now, but it sounds like he and Justin Fields don't have a history together. So I feel very comfortable with this selection here is my number one, and I will back it up, I'm sure with another wide receiver in the third round. Trey McBride goes a 208, Jackson Smith and Jigba at 209, Tyree kill at 210, Ladd-McConkey at 211, and then Scott Bogman, the pick after my own heart.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Derek Henry at the end of the 12th, excuse me, the second round. What an incredible 212 value. And then another RB, classic Bogman, Jonathan Taylor. How do you feel about Henry, Taylor, Chase, so far? I like it, but I'll say this, that where I took Derek Henry, I did not expect him to fall back, so he's kind of like an insta pick. But I wanted my other pick to come out of the group of Wilson, J.S.N, McConkey, and McBride, and all four of them went when it was just on you with five picks left.
Starting point is 00:08:33 So that was a little bit of a brutal turn. But I do like getting Derek Henry, of course, just so many touchdowns, even in a PPR league. And then JT still averaged the fifth most points per game last season and running back. So I like that double tap right there. Yeah, also I'm sure Bogman love starting off his team with a Bengal and a Raven. Oh, just classic Bogman here.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Bucky Irving at 3. Next thing you know, I'm going to draft Aaron Rogers. Well, not a one QB. Still time left. Bucky Irving at 302, Chase Brown at 303, T. Higgins at 304, Lamar at 305, and I took Terry McLaurin at 306. So I took two wide receiver ones on their team.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Terry McLaren, again, everyone every year finds a reason not to like Terry McLaurin, and every year I find a reason to draft him on my team, and every year I'm happy about it. Even if there's a little bit of regression for Jane Daniels in year two, a little sophomore slump, I still think Tara McClure is far and away the man there. So I feel really good so far how this looks. Josh Allen at 307, Devante Adams, he was the one I was going back and forth on. Instead, I took Terry McLaren. Breece Hall goes to Andrew Erickson at 309.
Starting point is 00:09:46 your number two running back behind McCaffrey. So let's talk about what we think 2025 looks like with this new regime of Brees Hall, Andrew. Well, I expect that Brees Hall is going to get a decent round of volume, an offense that expects to be pretty reliant on the run. Justin Fields leading the way, I think that's going to help Brees Hall and his efficiency. And I've kind of come around a little bit more on Brees Hall. Really, I was kind of concerned about what kind of target share he could see in an offense with Justin Fields. But as I've done more digging, I've kind of realized that Justin Fields also is kind of a
Starting point is 00:10:16 opt to check the ball down a decent amount. And when you look at just the weapons in the Jets passing game, Gary Wilson is clearly the number one. And then it's Josh Reynolds and Mason Taylor and Alan Azar, I think is still on the team. So even if Justin Fields doesn't project as a quarterback necessarily because he's mobile to throw the ball to the running back, I think that given this situation and the fact that they want to feature Brees Hall, he's playing in a contractor, I think he's really motivated this season. So I've come around more on Brees Hall and getting him in round three for a player that we were taking, at least I was taking inside the top five last year. And I think he played through injuries in the second half of last season. So I think it's a big
Starting point is 00:10:50 year for Breece Hall. And we know that he's a three-down skill set. Roshy Rice goes to 3-10. Team 11 selects Kyron Williams. And then Debrough, you're up for the end of the third, beginning of the fourth. And you stayed on brand with your boy, George Gittle, and then Ken Walker to start the fourth round. Give me the low down here about this team build. Obviously, just the one running back here is a PPR. So what's the plan to make up ground? And what do you think about these two selections here, just made. I mean, Kittle, we're drafting the tight end one last year as the tight end three. I understand a lot of the reasons why, but this is why you don't have to pay up for McBride or Bowers early because you can get George Kittle later. And as high as I am on Ricky
Starting point is 00:11:30 Pearsall this year and everybody loves Joanne Jennings. He's still a 27-year-old, fourth-year breakout. Pierceall, does he take the leap? Brandon Ayuk, what health and effectiveness do we get this year? All these roads lead back to George Kittle. And so this could be a career season for a guy that has not slow down at all, any efficiency metric that you look at. And then Ken Walker, I can draft an RB1 in points per game last year in round four. This is why you could start wide receiver heavy early. And Ken Walker is going to be in this Kubiak running game scheme. The offensive line can't play worse than they did last year. And Ken Walker, he coffin nailed everybody that said he couldn't catch passes last year. So getting him at this spot, I mean, I'm getting an RB1 in round four.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Okay, can't argue with that here. All right. Next up is Joe Burrow at 402. followed by Mike Evans at 403. Marvin Harrison Jr. to Andrew Erickson. So Harrison, obviously, he hasn't missed any gym days. We know this offseason. My goodness. Marvin Harrison, Jr., a guy who was going last year around the turn. This year, you get him in the fourth round.
Starting point is 00:12:30 That's a pretty good value, Andrew. Yeah, I'm just betting on a player taking a leap and getting better in year two. I think that last year, it was out of control where he was going in ADP. And I think this year, it's really palatable in round four. Year two, we see guys make the jump every single year. Year two is very common for wide receiver breakouts. And Marvin Harrison Jr., again, wasn't perfect his rookie year, but there's still a lot of things that you can look at and say, hey, that's a positive.
Starting point is 00:12:53 You know, he didn't have, I believe he had one drop. And it was in the first game of the season against the Buffalo Bills, where he was basically a non-factor. And cool stat about the Cardinals, they play 13 games indoors, most of any NFL team next year. So I think shootouts are coming. So I like Marvin Harrison Jr. to take the step in year two. Jayden Daniels at 405, Cortland Sutton at 406,
Starting point is 00:13:12 and Alvin Camara at 4. in a PPR. To me, I couldn't say no, it was my RB too. Oh, look, I think the Saints are going to be awful, but Alvin Camara basically is that offense. So at 407, I'll take him as my second running back. Him and Jemir Gibbs. That's a lot of receptions at the running back position. James Cook goes next at 408. It was back and forth on him, but I went with Camara for the PPR format. Joe Mixen, then Jalen Hurts, Xavier Worthy, and then Scott Bogman, you double tap wide receiver. Let's talk about DJ Moore and Devontas Smith. Yeah, I was super happy to get two. high floor players here this round.
Starting point is 00:13:48 It kind of made up for the turn that I missed with Wilson, Ladd, and JSN to me after I got the two good running back. So adding DJ Moore, I know a lot of people are afraid of this Bears scenario and who is going to end up taking a back seat. And a lot of people think that maybe it's DJ Moore because he's a little bit older. But I just think the floor is so incredibly high. He's the one guy that I don't worry about in that offense at all. To me is DJ Moore.
Starting point is 00:14:14 And then Devante Smith just has an insanely high floor. I understand that, you know, they're going to run the ball a ton, run first team, best offensive line in football, all of that. But DeVante Smith is just such a good player with such a high floor. He's not a good swing player. He doesn't usually have those crazy output weeks. But as a number three, I think the floor is insane here with Chase, Devante Smith, and DJ Moore. I really like it.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Next up here, we have Chuba Hubbard. at 502. Incredible value there. DK.K. Meckhaft at 503. O'Mary in Hampton, then Ted McMillan. To me, I took Zayf Flowers as my third wide receiver. Then James Connor, Travis Hunter, Jalen Waddle. Andrew Erickson, you keep talking about Jailen Waddle. When last we left, Jonu Smith was still there, the last show that we did together on a mock draft. He is no longer there. So let's talk about how that impacts Jailen Waddle's potential 2025 target share. I just think that it makes it more likely that Jalen Waddle now becomes back to a focal point of the Dolphins passing game. Last year, it was really focused on A. Chan and Johnny Smith, especially underneath to kind
Starting point is 00:15:19 of mitigate the issues across the offensive line. I think that they're saying, hey, we want to get back to Jalen Waddle. And with all the nonsense going around with Tyrell, off the field, and does he want to be there? And he's saying all the right things now. But, you know, this team paid Jalen Wattle in the long term. They signed a contract last season. So if they're really looking for somebody to step up in this offense, it would be the 26-year-old Jailen Woll, not the 31-year-old Tyree Kill can three straight 1,000 yard season to start his career. He's shown that he can win in multiple ways. He was a volume monster in year one, efficiency monster in year two.
Starting point is 00:15:50 And he's had success with Tuva dating back to their time spent at Alabama. So I like betting on good players. I think Waddle's still a good player. And if he's healthy, I think that he's going to drastically beat his ADP. All right. After Jalen Waddle, Chris Godwin goes, then Chris Olavé. And then Dart Vader, Derek Brown, decides to continue to pound the running back board. He goes with R.J. Harvey and Tony Pollard.
Starting point is 00:16:13 So, Debrough, clearly, I guess we've had this discussion before off air. The J.K. Dobbin signing doesn't mean anything to you, does it? Nope, doesn't at all. I was always, there was always going to be a running back that took anywhere from 125 to 140 carries away from R.J. Harvey, so the fact that that's Dobbins and not estimate, I don't care. Harvey's still going to get the money touches, going to play in the passing game. I love his upside this year.
Starting point is 00:16:39 and looking at Tony Pollard, he's undervalue guys. I mean, a guy that was a top 24 running back last year. He's going in the RB3 range and nothing but good things have happened around him in a situation with the offensive line. Cam Ward can elevate this offense. And the other thing about all this is I know who I'm drafting with. I don't need draft intel to tell me what guys are going to pick. And I'm looking at this team build and I'm like, do I go wide receiver because I'm staring at George Pickens there? No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:17:08 I know Scott Bogman's in here and I know Caleb Johnson's probably not going to come back to me. So again, don't need draft intel to tell me I should have gone running back, running back here. But if you need draft intel, thank goodness that Draft Wizard has it and let you know what the players around you might be doing. Also, we'll let you know maybe the teams they're picking after you already have tight end. So don't take a tight end here. Wait another round or two and then you can make that selection. Those are the kind of pieces in the tools here of Draft Wizard that's separated for. from every other piece of draft software out there.
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Starting point is 00:21:11 and for more follow timbo slice of life 12 and the tick to ticot podcast network on ticot let's continue to crown some picks here after d bros two selections jameson williams sam lapporte and then the fourth wide out to the andrew ericson squad calvin ridley so what do you expect from riddley this year with the young kid cam ward at qb i expect him to be a fantasy wide receiver too i think that he's just one of the best values on the board in terms of where he goes and the outside the wide receiver three price range when he had really good usage last year. He came in really high air yard share in the Callahan offense and Cam Ward just has to be better than Will Levis. I don't think that that's a such a high bar for him to have to pass even though he's a rookie quarterback. And then you get the untapped potential of
Starting point is 00:21:55 can he deliver a Strouder Daniels type of rookie season where you're seeing a player like a Terry McClearn like a Nico Collins take a leap. I mean, really when he's been healthy, he's always been a top 30 fantasy wide receivers. So I think that in a full PPR, getting him as a wide receiver three flex play that I can plug in during bi weeks. I think that he's a really good value where he's going. Very good. Next up, George Pickens at 605, Jerry Judy at 606. I took Jordan Addison at 607. He is my fourth wide receiver. And I feel pretty good about this. Look, I know it's a different quarterback this year. Wasn't going to be Sam Darnold this year, now with J.J. McCarthy under center. But still, 63 receptions, 875 yards, nine touch.
Starting point is 00:22:33 touchdowns. That was good enough for wide receiver 21 last year. So it was my fourth wide out. Yeah. And I've got a lot of belief in the kid, J.J. McCarthy. I think it might be a slow September. But by the time we had October and the leave start to change, I think the Vikings are going to win that division. There I said it. Isaiah Pacheco, Aaron Jones, Trayvion Henderson, gets past me, unfortunately. Kyler Murray at 611. And then, as predicted, Caleb Johnson to Scott Bogman at 612. 7.01. Ricky Pearsall. What's it like to stick the night? in the front and the back of Derek Brown with these picks. I mean, it feels outstanding.
Starting point is 00:23:09 I'll tell you that much. But, I mean, look, D-Bro has made this comment, and I'll just make it for him that Najee Harris had over 300 touches for the Steelers last season. So, yeah, they may not all go to Caleb Johnson. Maybe Kenneth Gainwell get some of them, but the majority of them are going to go to Caleb. It's not a high pick on him.
Starting point is 00:23:26 I think that's a good pick this late. And then Ricky Pearsaw, that's my fourth wide receiver, so that is my complete upside play. So like taking a lot of upside because like I said before, I've got a ton of floor at wide receiver already. Yeah. Upside floor, the balance of that is what makes for special fantasy teams. T.J. Hawkinson at 702.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Joanne Jennings, 703, Patrick Mahomes at 704, Roma, Dunesay. Then I took Baker Mayfield, who, yeah, he was the QB4 last year through 40 touchdowns. I feel like nobody cares. Nobody cares. The renaissance of Baker Mayfield has been a slow burn. But the last two years in Tampa, my God, has it been great. think the team around him is so good. I still think they're in the class of that division. I love Baker Mayfield in this spot here. And I know without the draft intel that rather than
Starting point is 00:24:11 fight over Justin Fields in the next round or so, I might as well just take Baker Mayfield with the value here. DeAndre Swift at 707. Then team eight goes, Kalil Shakir. Oh, look, Justin Fields goes. What a shock to Andrew Erickson. Didn't see that coming. I love you and hate you, Erickson. I just, well, I knew he, again, I knew that he was going to be flying off the board with the amount of quarterback said, you know, actually asked coach AI. I was like, hey, what do you think about position here? Should I go for one of the ones? He's like, hey, you better draft a quarterback because D-Brow's breathing down your neck
Starting point is 00:24:41 to draft Justin Fields. Make sure you take him now because you're not able to take it. You're not able to take him later. And immediately, once I click the button, I look down at D-Brow's face and he looked disappointed, which means I made the right selection. Yes. Can we get that as emoji, disappointed D-Bro face on D-Broadway? I'd like to see that.
Starting point is 00:24:59 I definitely like to see that. So after Justin Fields goes, Daxeepro's. Scott. It's a little QB run there. Mahomes, Fields, DAC, a lot of value in the seventh round. And I took Baker Mayfield as well. So four QBs that round. Then you have Michael Pittman go. So how did you pivot here, D. Bro? It looks like wide receiver was the plan. Yeah, filling out the wide receiver room. I plan to take at least one wide receiver here. But with getting snipe by Erickson, I went, I double tap wide receiver. So filling out the room in a PPR setting, Jacoby Myers is going to get a ton of volume again this year. And Josh Down. man. All we need is just confident quarterback play. When he got it from Joe Flacco last year, the guy was a top 24 wide receiver. So just banking on somebody in that quarterback room, delivering good short area targets, or least catchable ones this year. Okay, after downs, you quench on Judkins, David Montgomery, Travis, ATN to you, Andrew Erickson. So ATN, your third RB, it's a PPR, so I understand the thought process here on the pick. But let's be honest here.
Starting point is 00:25:58 It was a very disappointing season. Why can this year be different for Trevor? ATN with the Jags. If he's not injured, because I think that he played basically almost the entire season injured after week five when he hurt his shoulder and he was still playing and he was obviously really inefficient. I think it's a brand new offense. William Cohen doesn't have an allegiance to any particular running back. I think he's still trying to figure out which running back he wants to feature.
Starting point is 00:26:20 It doesn't mean I can't draft Bechal Tooting as well on this team. Again, he's a bench player for me. I want to see how this Jaguar's backfield shakes out because I know that we could see a really productive player come from it like we saw last year with Tampa Bay with Bucking. Irving. So it's more about the price really with ETN. Again, if he was more expensive, it probably wouldn't be as interested. But he's a bench player. And if I realize after week one, okay, he's a backup. He doesn't have a role. I can just cut him and move on, pick somebody else off the waivers. So that's kind of why I gravitated towards him,
Starting point is 00:26:47 uh, in this round. Travis ATN at 804. Then Brandon Ayuk, Debo Samuel. I took Stefan Diggs at 807. That was my fifth wide receiver. So I like the upside that Bogman was talking about earlier. David Joku at 808, Cooper Cup, the nausea, Jaden Reed. Then we have Bogman going tight end. I was a little surprised. Travis Kelsey and then Brian Robinson, Jr. So Brian Robinson, clear floor pick. I get that.
Starting point is 00:27:12 Travis Kelsey at the stage in his career bogs. Why Kelsey over, say, Andrews, Kraft, or even Evan Ingram? Yeah, I mean, I just think that Travis Kelsey had a really bad year. I think this is the season. He knows this is it. Empty out the full tank. And look, if he's not that good, it's fine. I waited long enough to take a tight end.
Starting point is 00:27:32 There's still good ones that are out there. Like you said, Evan Ingram's still on the board. Well, I think he just went. But like Jonu, Tyler Warren, Hunter Henry, one of these guys is going to be a free agent. So I'm not too worried about if Travis Kelsey doesn't work out. But if he does work out, I could be getting a value here. So like where I got him. Fair enough.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Good assessment. Let's move on to the next election here at 902, Matthew Golden. Dylan Warren, Tyro and Tracy, Javante Williams. I took Mark Andrews at 906, spoke about it on the last show, too. To me, is my favorite tight end value this year. Touchdown machine, 10 touchdowns in the last, basically 10 games for him last season. Jack, Zach Charbonnet, Darno Mooney, Tucker Kraft, another tight end. So it's the tight end time here.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Erickson, Y Kraft over Evan Ingram. Yeah, this one I've been debating for a while. I was really high on Evan Ingram, but then I was thinking about the last time that me and D. Rebel were really high on a particular tight end. Darren Waller. You mean rap star, Darren Waller? You mean Miami Dolphin, Darren Waller? That's Darren Waller.
Starting point is 00:28:38 No, I'm actually talking about the Giants, Darren Waller. I think it's close between the two. And honestly, I was kind of going back and forth. But some more research I've done with Tucker Kraft, and I think that he could emerge as the number one target on this Packers offense. I'm really bullish on Jordan Love bouncing back after the injury. And I just look at Kraft, he's just a really good football player. Look at last year in terms of yards after the catch per reception,
Starting point is 00:28:59 He was number one among all tight ends. Number two, in terms of explosive receiving rate behind only George Kittle. I think that he could be the next George Kittle, to be totally honest. That's where I could see him emerging in this office. The floor has even talked about him playing a Kelsey or Kittle-type role in this Packer's offense, that this team doesn't want a wide receiver one. What if that means they want a tight-end one? So Tucker Kraft, I think is going to continue to ascend.
Starting point is 00:29:21 And I think, especially in half-PPR, I think it's a pretty clear-cut choice over Evan Ingram. But in full PPR, that Ingram's catching a bunch of dump-off passes. It gets really close. Well, I could sense in your voice. There was a lot of, you know, pain still from the Darren Waller experience. So let me offer to you instead some words of wisdom from Darren Waller himself in a classic called Who Knew, quote unquote, her perspective. You know in life it's time to heal.
Starting point is 00:29:50 It's hard to love. It's hard to be free. It's hard to give all your soul then, have your heart broken in return. But it's time. Take your time to heal. just take your time out of here. Did this make you feel better? Did this make you feel better?
Starting point is 00:30:05 No, no. This is the same show. It's still a Hallmark card. I know. This is, this is Darren Wallers. This is, these are his words.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Now, I can't read the rest of it because it gets a little dirty here. That's on the fantasy pros after dark version. That's, did that little sonnet make you feel better about the Darren Waller stuff in the past? Are you ready to move on now because of that?
Starting point is 00:30:26 I feel like I've finally got closure. Thank you, Joe. Thank you. Finally. It's all about the journey here. It is, it is. You know, it's, it's, it's about the draft. It's not about the team.
Starting point is 00:30:35 You know what I mean? It's about the journey, not the destination. Let's talk about the rest of these selections here. Because after, uh, Tucker Kraft, Cam Scataboo goes, uh, J.K. Dobbins goes. And then Darts Vader himself, uh, selects Bo Nex at QB and Jordan Mason. So you didn't get the QB you wanted. He ended up with Bo Neck. So let's talk about, uh, the pivot point from Justin Fields.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Why was it, Nick? And I think we all know the Jordan Mason love and understand it well. Yeah, I mean, Jordan Mason, I think he's going to be the goal line back and it's upside if Aaron Jones gets hurt. With Nix, I mean, dude, weeks five through 18, QB6 and fantasy points per game, situation has done nothing but improve around him. And yes, what a difference a year makes, boys. Last year was not very high or very kind to Bo Nix on any of these shows. And this year, I'm like, yeah, that's a solid pick for fantasy. See, I knew all that Darren Waller stuff was going to help you get in touch with your emotions.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Jordan, closure. Look, I don't think any of us expected Bo Nix to have the season he did. I think the season he started with in September was what we thought was going to happen. And then, to his credit, and Sean Payton's credit, he got on track. So it is a very different 2025 outlook for him and the Broncos. Taji Spears goes, then Tank Bigsby. Keon Coleman up next for Andrew Erickson at 1004. Erickson, real quick, let's talk about Keon Coleman here in year two.
Starting point is 00:31:57 That's a great pick. Erickson, I definitely don't hate you for it. Yeah, I got the Bodman's stamp of approval with Ken Coleman. I just think, again, betting on second year wide receivers taking the leap. What does Ken Coleman have to do? Stay healthy, number one. I think that we were actually seeing him start to break out during his rookie season before he injured his wrist.
Starting point is 00:32:13 And the coaching staff has talked about it. He was never really the same when he came back. But the opportunity's there for him. He should be a starter on the perimeter attached to Josh Allen as his quarterback. And it's really Khalil Shakir, Dalton Kincaid, Elijah Moore, Joshua Palmer, You know, are these guys so elite talents that they're going to prevent Kean Coleman from breaking out? If Keon Coleman's not good, then yeah, he won't break out.
Starting point is 00:32:33 But I think at this time, I want to see week one, what does he do? And if he goes out there, doesn't do anything that I can cut him and move on, but if he ends up having a larger role, if he is Josh Allen's go-to guy in the red zone, I could see him really drastically beating his ADP. So just betting on archetypes here with a year-two player attached to a good quarterback. Nice, nice vocababre type, well done. Adam Thielin, Beechel Tootin, Ramandre Stevenson, Tomi, 10, 7, and Austin Echler, Evan Ingram at 1009, Christian Kirk at 10, 10, 10, 10.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Bogman, you had two selections here. You went Emeka, Egbuka, and Jaden Blue. So Blue certainly can find his pathway there for carries in Dallas. Egbuka, would it take an injury for him, or do you think that Egbuka is going to push regardless because of the talent early on in Tampa? No, Emeka, Egbuka is the second best wide receiver in Tampa Bay right now. I think he's better than an injured Chris Godwin. I think he's definitely better than Jalen McMillan, way better than Jailen McMillan.
Starting point is 00:33:29 So it's just, you know, an aging veteran and Mike Evans is still an absolute stud. But I think he's number two. This is a high passing offense. They said even though there's changes at OC, they're not going to change a lot of this system. So I expect this to still be pass heavy, Baker Mayfield heavy. And I think Emekaukkah is going to play a big role here. So I know I know he goes into a crowd. room, but the talent is already top tier for Egg Buka.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Luther Burden at 1102, Janu Smith, Jalen Wright, Rashid, Jihad. I took Ray Davis, so just trying to build some running back depth there. I like Davis's upside there, if something should happen to cook. Roshan Johnson, 1107, and Jake Ferguson. Andrew, you took Braylon Allen, so is this just a simple handcuff here, or do you think they're more of a time share in the jet scenario with this selection? I think it could be both scenarios. Again, drafting Breeze Hall, round three.
Starting point is 00:34:21 I'm betting on it really being him as the featured guy, but they talked about maybe mixing in Brayland Allen, Isaiah Davis a little bit more than Brees Hall managers would probably like. So I want to wait and see in week one, you know, see what happens. And if it is the Brees Hall show, then I know, hey, Alan's just a handcuff. That's all he is. But if he does have a larger role in the offense, well, then I have on my team as well.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Maybe he can offer some standalone upside or value outside of a Brees Hall injury. So that's kind of the thought process there. Rico Dowdle at 1110, then Dalton Kincaid. And look, another QB. So some matchups, a little upside here. So maybe you don't believe in Bo Nix as much as you said you did, Derek Brown, because you took J.J. McCarthy and then Trey Harris right out of my queue. Good job on there.
Starting point is 00:35:05 So let's talk about these two selections of McCarthy and Harris. I mean, J.J. McCarthy at this point is just free upside, man. I think he's a QB1 this season. And if Bo Nix doesn't have that top five, top six upside, I'm taking another swing at quarterback. in a fantastic situation. Like how many times do we have to see in a KOC system that these guys are locked in QB1s over numerous quarterbacks
Starting point is 00:35:25 and a lot of them with a lot less talent than J.J. McCarthy? And then, yeah, Trey Harris, this is all just filling out the bench with upside. Considering I have a pretty balanced build for my team with the running backs and wide receiver rooms. Trey Harris, baby, all day. Interesting, though. And I understand the upside of McCarthy. You make a great move for it.
Starting point is 00:35:43 But when you see the, the QB talent still on the board, Brock Purdy, who's had some really good seasons, obviously. Justin Herbert, who's not that far removed from some massive fantasy seasons. Jordan Love, one year removed from a QB1 season. And C.J. Stroud, it was everybody's darling. So it would seem theoretically those players would all offer more floor than J.J. McCarthy. But in your terms, looking at a quarterback for you, it's just all upside. Yeah, it's all upside.
Starting point is 00:36:09 I mean, when you get to this point in the draft, I could piecemeal streaming weekly on a weekly basis. Like if I wanted to go Stafford or Stroud or wait until the final two picks of the draft. But for me, this is strategic upside picks where it's like if Bo Nix with the rushing upside, he was QB6 last year, can he take another step with more weapons around him this year? J.J. McCarthy airdropped into a system where Sammy Darnold, yes, that Sam Darnold, produces the QB8 and fantasy points per game last year in weeks one through 17. If that, if J.J. McCarthy hits the ground running, either one of these guys could be a top five option and quarterback, and I got them for pennies.
Starting point is 00:36:46 All right. Interesting stuff there. Tyler Warren at 1202, Wondale at 1203. That's a nice late PBR selection. Trey Benson for Andrew Erickson. So Erickson, year two here for Tray Benson, year one was pretty quiet. Do you expect more noise from Benson in 2025? I would hope so based on the fact that I took him. I think that with James Connor, he's probably going to be the RB1 until he gets banged up. I mean, last year he stayed as healthy as he's really been since joining the Arizona Cardinal. So wouldn't bet on that. happening two years in a row. I think Tray Benson, I really liked him a lot as a prospect. We see year two guys, even after down rookie seasons for running backs. Like Tank Bigsby as an example, like he was in absolute zero his rookie year. And then he came back year two and really had a big season. So, um, Trey Benson, I think that if he gets the opportunity, I think that he can take
Starting point is 00:37:32 advantage of a Cardinals office and now stacking Cardinals chasing those indoor games, there's shootouts. Yeah, stacking Cardinals. What could go wrong in that ecosystem for your fantasy team? Uh, Isaac Gorendo. Shootouts. Yeah, maybe take yourself out behind the barn and shoot yourself. Maybe after a couple. Isaac Garrendo at 1205. Christian Watson at 1206. I took Cedriced Tielman, my boy,
Starting point is 00:37:53 at 1207. Let's go, Joe Flacco. Let's do it. Please don't, Mark. Please don't Kenny pick it, please. Tyler Algear at 1208, Dallas Goddard, 1209, Jerome Ford, Nick Chubb. And then Scott Bogman, you went ahead and took your QB,
Starting point is 00:38:07 Caleb Williams, and Jaden Higgins. I love these two picks here. Some tremendous value. Big upside for Williams with the new head coach. And obviously, Jaden Higgins. look, all he's got to do is just somehow find a way to be better than Christian Kirk, and I don't think that's going to be too hard. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Everyone's like, hey, I don't know if I like Jane Higgins because he's a lot of what Nico Collins is. I'm like, you don't like two Nico Collins? I mean, he's pretty good. Or is it Collins's eye. Collins is how I say it. I think that's the correct pronunciation is Collins is. But yeah, Jaden Higgins is a great option.
Starting point is 00:38:44 I think he's already the second best. target that they have in Houston, maybe third behind Mixon. Like obviously, Nico Collins is your number one there. I don't think Tank Dell plays at all. I think Christian Kirk is washed. Jalen Dole could be a nice option here as well, and he's a better fit, probably than Jaden Higgins, but Higgins is a very good wide receiver. And he should not, he should not take long to get on the field and have a substantial role.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Absolutely love this pick. Can't say enough of good about it. All right. Next up here, Jalen McMillan. Colson Loveland, Keenan Allen, still teamless Keenan Allen. Bogman, where does Keenan Allen end up? I assume he's back in the NFL here in August, right? Now, hopefully Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:39:26 So no idea. That would be, that would be actually not a terrible spot. We need more slot options. It's Calvin Ridley. It's Roman Wilson. It's John Hussmith. It's Pat Friarmouth. Let's throw Keenan Allen in there.
Starting point is 00:39:38 Come on. And then run the ball. It's Calvin Austin, not Calvin Ridley. You wish it was Calvin Ridley. I do wish it was Calvin Ridley. I think that was a little Freudian slip there. from Scott Bogman, Marquis Brown, and then I took Rashad Bateman at 1308. Again, just building out that wide receiver room.
Starting point is 00:39:53 You can never have too many of them, and I want to play a wide receiver flex in my PPR leagues. Kareem Hunt at 1307, Blake Quorum, Drake May. There we go. So you got Fields, you got May. How do you feel about this QB room, Erickson? All the rushing upside you could ask for. Yeah, baby.
Starting point is 00:40:08 I'm chasing here. I love it. Jared Goff goes next, Josh Palmer, and then Deontay Johnson, the new is Cleveland. Brown. And then Breschard Smith here with Dibro's last two picks. I like the DeBrolet's DeBro Johnson. I know. I'm like The pick is fine, but Deontay
Starting point is 00:40:25 Johnson, I will scoff at every time I see him. Well, we could separate real life from fantasy upside here. Can you, can you separate a guy who was on three teams in one year and say that somehow investment-wise, that's still a good investment? And no wonder why he's talking about Kenny Pickett. He punched Mitch
Starting point is 00:40:41 Chubisky in the face for Kenny Piscuit. Isn't Kenny Pickett potentially the starting quarterback for the Cleveland Browns and doesn't he have chemistry with Deontay Johnson? Does he have chemistry? Is that what we're calling it? He's got more chemistry than Jerry Judy does. He doesn't have chemistry with his own hands. Well, you don't know that.
Starting point is 00:40:58 You don't know what he does when the lights go out. And floating between teams. I bet he fumbles it, whatever it is. Can we still talk about Deontay Johnson, target per route run, yards per route run would have led Cleveland last year. So everybody's just like saying that he's not going to factor? Is that what you're telling me? Yeah, listen, as far as, as far as,
Starting point is 00:41:15 a player goes, I think he's still a pretty solid player. You know, but if he's such a solid player, then why did three teams not want him? Because he's a dick. Right. So there you go. I get that. So that's the problem with him. Fantasy football we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Yes. But in fantasy football, you have to produce, which means the teams have to play. When he was on the field last year, what did he do? He produced. How dare you take him in the 13th? I know. Wow. Terrible pick.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Horrible pick. As my wide receiver, what? I don't know. I did not mean to start this on Deonti. I just wanted to scoff it. You did start it and then walk away from it, Boggs. In all fairness, you started it and then were like, I didn't do anything there. I had no problem.
Starting point is 00:41:54 I got a question for you. So before last year, who do you think was a better receiver, Deonti Johnson or Jerry Judy? You're going to say Deontay. Yeah. What about you, Joe? Who was better? Deonti Johnson or Jerry Judy. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:42:07 You know it's Deontay. Go ahead and say it. No, see, I was an OG Jerry Judy guy. And Boggs knows this. But the OG is. I go back to the Bama. I go back to the Bama Jerry Judy. I can't knock that out of my brain.
Starting point is 00:42:19 I was, and look, you go back to watch the receipts of the shows in the last five years when I would talk about Jerry Judy and Jerry Judy. Steve Smith. Yeah. Well, that's a conversation for a different day.
Starting point is 00:42:30 But outside of Deonté, I want to give a shout out to Brashard Smith here, who's making some noise. I think he's going to make even more noise in training camp, PPR setting, taking upside shots at the very end of this draft for a player that doesn't need an injury in the KC backfield.
Starting point is 00:42:44 to carve out a stand-alone role as the new Jerich McKinnon. So while we're derailed on Deontay here, got to give us some love for Bershard Smith. Yank that steering wheel right back on the path. Way to be, buddy. I'm trying, man. I would rather make selections.
Starting point is 00:43:00 I would rather make selections that I think had more. You know, look, I get it. Deontre Johnson once upon a time was good. Josh Gordon once about time was good. Everyone kept drafted him, thinking that was going to work out. But Jack Bash is still out there.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Coker still out there. And the guy that I'm going to take with my next pick is still out there. So Marvin Mims, then Zach Ertz, your last pick, Kyle Monongai. Boy, oh, boy, somebody's been listening to a lot of Joe Pizapia videos here. Yeah. Of course, Kyle Menongai. Love this guy. Your guy, my guy, our guy.
Starting point is 00:43:31 My guy, our guy. Guy one guy. He's the perfect last round pick. He is perfect. I'll take Kyle Williams, who's still available on the board. Boggs last round to you here as we recap the picks after Mononononon. Nongai, Marshaun, Marcia Lloyd, Romeo Dobbs, I took Kyle Williams, Jaliel McLaughlin, Jarrez, Hunter. I wish your name was Jarquez, Bogg.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Dylan, Samson, and Mike Giske. So the last pick, Mr. Irrelevant is who, Scott Bogman? Let's go with DJ Giddens to handcuff my J.T. pick. Yeah, all right. So I got a B-plus. So I'm going to pass the class, maybe not make honor roll. Let's see how the rest of the grades for everybody works out here. Scott Bogman at the top.
Starting point is 00:44:14 at 909 with the number one pick, of course you're at the top. Pretty good. Team 5 is second. Dibro at third. I think it was that Deontay Johnson pick that put you over the top. Yeah. You had one more point than I did. One, one more point.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Still a win, baby. Still a win. Where's Andrew Erickson? He pulled a calf. He's at 11. So there you go. So that's all right. It's all right.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Sleeper alert for me. Rashad Bateman, Cedricin, we're pretty good there. Our friend, Brandon Murchison, we love Brandon. he liked my draft more than anybody else here. Let's take a look at some of the other analysis. Boggs, you are at the top. So expert opinions there for you. Who liked and hated your draft?
Starting point is 00:44:56 Jorge Edwards, like my team more than anybody else. And second, you guys will not be surprised because I do show with him every single week. Pat Fitzmores. Number two. Kev Mashajan was three. I was four. And then Pierre Camus was fifth for me. I love my team.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Everybody who love my team. A lot of love for Derek Henry, DJ Boer, Devante Smith, a lot of those, a lot of haters. Fantastic value. Not number one on Jbar Chase. By the way, Joe Pizapia, hating Mike guts. You hated JT, Devante Smith, Ricky Pierce Hall. I don't know what your problem is, Joe.
Starting point is 00:45:30 It sounds right. I love all those players. Look, if I knew that Derek Henry would make it back to me where he did, I'd probably want to take him Puga instead. And that would have been the change of my team. I'll be honest with it. And that's the nice thing about draft wizard. You could start a draft simulation and be like,
Starting point is 00:45:43 I don't like the way this looks, and you can back out the picks and undo them and do it another way until you start to get the teams in the draft slot that you're going to be in in that week until you get it right, because that's what it's about. And Scott Bogman, you got it right. Congratulations, you're the big winner. Let's look at the roster. Caleb Williams at QB, Derek Henry, Jonathan Taylor, at running back. The wide receivers, Jamar Chase, DJ Moore, Devontah Smith, the tight end, Travis Kelsey,
Starting point is 00:46:07 then Caleb Johnson at flexed your bench, Brian Robinson, Jr., Pearsall, Egbuka, Jaden Higgins, Jaden Blue and DJ Giddens. Look, I love the wide receiver depth you have on this team. It's hard not to like it. You got my favorite running back, maybe even ever, Derek Henry there. So Boggs, is this a squad you'd be very happy to go to war with? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:46:25 A little rookie heavy, which is not my favorite, but most of it's on the bench. So that's where we like our rookies. Well, Travis Kelsey's there too. So that offsets the age. Yeah, yeah, that's true. I mean, average age, I'm probably about normal. I'm probably middle of the pack because I have Kelsey,
Starting point is 00:46:39 but a lot of rookies here. So there is, yeah, and Henry, there is a little risk, but I really like the way this team fell for me. All right. Let's go to our friend Derek Brown, the bronze medalist in this draft. Bo Nix at QB, Ken Walker, R.J. Harvey. Then you have Nico Collins, Drake, London, Jacoby Myers, George Kittle, Tony Pollard, Josh Downs, JJ McCarthy on the bench with Jordan Mason, Trey Harris, Deontay Johnson, and Breschard Smith. So, Dibro, when you step back and look at this roster,
Starting point is 00:47:11 obviously London and Collins two terrific players. But to me, when I look at it, it doesn't have that one big, like impact guy unless Drake London, Nico really become that guy. Like I don't, would you agree that like it's not the same as having a puka or I'm on raw or one of those kind of guys to start a team? I mean, that's fair. But I feel like this is the kind of team that you build or need to build at the turn where you're taking shots on guys that can take a step and you're projecting some because there's
Starting point is 00:47:40 a lot of guys here. they're going at the end of the first round because they haven't been top three, top five options. And what have we seen on in Niko? When he's been on the field, he has that type of upside. Same thing for Drake London with improved quarterback play. And I feel like with this team, I backed it up with a lot of volume with the mid-round running backs. I got a lot of underrated PPR volume with Myers and downs as my wide receiver three. And for the build overall, like, I mean, my upside swings are George Kittle is going to be tight in one overall this year.
Starting point is 00:48:08 Kenneth Walker is going to be an RB1. So there's a lot of projecting, but I feel like that's the kind of team that you have to build when you're close to or at the turn where you're taking swings on guys because you think they're going to take a step forward. You've done the homework or you know that they're not going to come back to you at the next spot in the draft. Do you like a team at the turn that starts with, let's say, Ashton Gentie, Derek Henry, Devante Adams, Terry McLaren, or what you did here with Nico, Drake, London, Kittelen Walker? I think you can make cases for both of like I could have easily started like if the board would have fell perfectly. I would have had no issue starting CMC and Gentie or I mean, Gentie was in my queue. But again, part of this is just how I see the draft board laying out. And I'm very high on these middle round running backs where a lot of people aren't and they look at it. That's the dead zone and stuff where I think you have plenty of upside for all these guys.
Starting point is 00:49:01 So I have no problem starting running back in one of those first two selections or even going running back running back. but the way that I'm building teams this year at the turn, I just really like the mid-round running backs. And I mean, in a three wide receivers start in league, like to be able to start with those two wide receivers, oh, man, love it. Andrew Erickson. Actually, you know what?
Starting point is 00:49:22 Before we go to that, was there anybody that loved and hated your draft of note here, expert opinions, things that draft wizard scolded you on that said you should have done this instead. Maybe things would have been better. I loved my team the most, obviously. I gave myself a 98. Love it.
Starting point is 00:49:35 Yeah. Love me some meat. It's beautiful. But Matt Harmon gave me an 89, so shout out to Harmon. Joey Wright did not like my team. And unfortunately, Scott Bogman got all the love for Jorge. I did not. I got a 65 from Jorge.
Starting point is 00:49:49 So, Jorge, we're going to have to have words and DMs later. The one, tell me this, guys. Would you have gone with this two for, okay, this 2V2? David Montgomery and DeAndre Hopkins, are you taking Downs and Breschard Smith? I'm not high on Hopkins, but. Per the simulator says I would have had 61 more points if I would have gone Bungley and Hopkins over Downs and Bashard Smith. I struggle with downs because I just don't know what that offense is going to be at this point.
Starting point is 00:50:20 You know, I had high hopes for the Colts last year and they just fell woefully short. And now I just feel like at some point the Daniel Jones pivot is coming. I just, that is an awful feeling about it. Maybe I'll be wrong. But Andrew, where do you stand with that? Because I think that's an interesting question. It's really whether or not you're buying into the Colts. I like the downs, Breschard Smith side, especially if those are players that are on the bench for the most part.
Starting point is 00:50:43 So you're just shooting for upside where I understand why the simulator might like or the analyzer might like David Montgomery, especially where he went. I mean, he went the eighth round. Like that's more than baking into, I mean, I wish that I drafted Dave Montgomery getting him in the eighth round banking those points of flex. Even that's considering, okay, the lines take a step back. That's more than considered in that type of price tag. So, but based on your roster bill, like, you don't need those points from Dave Montgomery. It's one of these things we talked about on the best ball show where every roster needs different things. So in a vacuum, Dave Montgomery eighth round, absolute great value.
Starting point is 00:51:15 But for your team, if you already have established winning backs. Like, when I went three running backs and stuff like that, it doesn't really fit the build. Like, yeah, it doesn't make sense for you to draft him. And you can, I mean, you can always theorize. I could trade this guy later on, but I don't really like going into draft to be like, I'm going to draft this guy so I can trade him away. Exactly. Like, that's usually like, you're thinking too.
Starting point is 00:51:31 I think you're doing too much big brain. But you know what? I think what happens is I think price enforcing, especially in a league where it's like it's PPR. So David Montgomery, you know, perception-wise is a little lower. It goes, well, he doesn't catch the ball whenever. He still gets a ton of touchdowns. He still get yards.
Starting point is 00:51:44 He's still very valuable. I think price enforcing, you just, you get injuries. You get things that happen. It's the NFL. Price enforcing more than usual will help you out. A couple years ago, I priced enforcement on Josh Jacobs in that season that he went off in the Vegas Raiders. I thought a player I wanted.
Starting point is 00:51:58 He fell to me. He felt way for, and he worked out. And you know what? It was just principle of saying he shouldn't be there. I don't like him this year. I'm going to take him. And you know what? Price enforcing, I would say 90% of the time is actually the right call for me personally,
Starting point is 00:52:13 from what I've seen because the injuries that happen, the unknown factors, taking players that you know who they are in the specific team that they're playing for too. Let's get to Andrews team here. Justin Fields at quarterback, Christian McCaffrey, Breece Hall, A.J. Brown, Marvin Harrison, J. Waddle, Tucker Kraft, Calvin Ridley. Then you have Drake May, Travis A. T. N. Keong, Coleman, T.Belan, Traybenson, Braylon Allen, and Kyle Monongai. I think Draft Wizard was unfair to you. I think, I think this is far too low over-ranking, Andrew. What do you think about this squad?
Starting point is 00:52:44 No, I think that Draft Wizard was fair. I didn't even give myself an A. You know, Andrew Erickson from Fandy Spros gave this team a B-plus. So, and that's the highest rank. Actually, I'm interested. Scott Bobman, if you had to rank this team from zero to 100 approximately, what would you give it? Let's see. This feels like a trap. This feels like a trap. If I had to give it a score.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Think of a letter grade first and then convert that into a number. I would give it like a 60. Oh, man, he nailed it exactly. That is. No. No. Wow. And this is how you know the accuracy level of draft wizard in terms of the back-end
Starting point is 00:53:25 repercussions of your draft. I mean, there you don't. I hate McCaffrey. I don't. like him. I'm a the fact that you nailed it to the digit.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Not 58, not 61, I was gonna say 65. I looked. I looked. Oh, you love. Oh, you look.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Oh, you know. Oh, I thought I was in on the bed. I thought it was in the bed. I did the whole thing. I look. Oh,
Starting point is 00:53:50 you should have been authentic. He couldn't lie to the viewers. Oh. I thought it was hilarious a D-Bro thought I didn't. No, I thought you just hit it. Man,
Starting point is 00:53:58 I was giving you props. But, but look, I, don't, I understand where you took McCaffrey. I do. But I don't believe a single word that comes out of the Niners camp about Fisher McCaffrey ever again.
Starting point is 00:54:14 And bilateral Achilles tendonitis does not sound good. You know, I also sounds like something that's going to last for longer than this. Well, to be honest, when I made the pick for McCaffrey, just going running back in round one, and then seeing how the board played out. not going receiver. So I went McCaffrey, AJ Brown. But then looking at it again, I think I might have actually liked it more if I went Nico Collins first and then A-chan is my rounding back in round two. I would have scored about at 82. Yeah. So I just look at that one. I think that I would have liked that more. So again, these running back some receivers that go at the end of round one,
Starting point is 00:54:56 beginning of round two, you really got to kind of play the ADP board, you know, whatever your site is draft down because I'm trying to get guys I think they can finish number one at both positions at running back and at wide receiver and I think that I get more bets on that probably with Collins and A.C. versus A.J. Brown and CMC. So if I could go back, I probably would make that change. I really like the build on everything else, honestly. I think that the build on everything else is really good. I'm just not the biggest. Like, I'm even a big brief hall guy. I just really don't like CMC. That is what sinks you in migrate, but everything else. I love. I love. that you took ETN, I think he's a good value.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Obviously, I was upset about Keanu Coleman. I think I'm even a little higher on the pack than Trey Benson. So the rest is build I love. Just that first pick is coming. I love Waddleman-Ridley. I love Waddleman-Lead. I mean, I like the receivers I drafted.
Starting point is 00:55:46 I would say too, I probably would have much rather just taken Dave Montgomery or Quintan Jopkins instead of Fields. Like, I like fields, but... You could love Fields. That'd have been nice. To Mahomes and Mayfield. Like, part of the Fields of War is that he goes so cheap,
Starting point is 00:56:00 and I kind of see that I agree 100% that's the allure the allure is that and I don't think that's going to happen anywhere outside this room I think this is the room where you draft on people like us for lunatics that you're going to have if you want fields you better take him here because you ain't going to get them and the reason I took Baker Mayfield is because he slipped so far and I was like
Starting point is 00:56:18 I can either take Baker Mayfield here as a top 5 QB at a huge value or I can fight with these three bozos over Justin Fields in the next round and I don't want to do that so I'm just going to do this instead but you nailed it I don't think people who are watching the show we're going to have that problem. If you want Fields, chances are he's still going to be there, I think, later than he went in this draft, Andrew, you would agree? Yes. Yeah. And I think that it's, it just feels weird taking this close to him out. I get like the fantasy production is
Starting point is 00:56:43 different and I have them ranked back to back, but I still think that, you know, I think at one month, that's going to be where he's going. I think he's getting a lot of helium right now. So I mean, I think it's deserved though. It is, but I do think that I think a little bit of bit of that appeal that PZP had talked about with Fields is going away. I guess the thing I want to preach, though, with that is there has to be a stopping point because if he gets up to where Richardson was going last year, then you've got to be out. He won't get up that high just because people have been burned. No, he won't, but he's going to exceed that Richardson hype by a country mile.
Starting point is 00:57:18 But the point is, yeah, I think there's enough negative stigma attached to Fields now after being on, you know, this is a third team and the Steelers didn't want, well, they didn't want them last year. They wanted them at the end of the year, you know, and the Jets aren't exactly, you know, a situation he goes into when people have a warm, fuzzy feeling about because the Jets have a great history with quarterbacks, don't they? No issues. What could go wrong with the New York Jets? Where's Browning Nagel when you need them? And just projecting his ADP forward a little bit, looking at best ball ADP on fantasy pros. Right now on underdog and drafters, he is going as QB10 and QB7.
Starting point is 00:57:54 If you look at the spots of where those guys are going currently in drafts, it's somewhere on like 77, 86, though, like somewhere in the 70s to 80s. So he's going to get up there, definitely. Yeah. All right. Let's talk about the Joey P roster here and see what everybody thinks of the look here. Well, Tribe Called Quest. Can he pick it?
Starting point is 00:58:16 Yes, he can. Baker Mayfield, J. Jemir Gibbs, Alvin Camara, Garrett Wilson, Terry McLaren, Zayflowers, Mark Andrews, Jordan, Addison, the bench is Stefan Diggs, Ramandre, Cedric Tillman, Rishaw, Baitman, Ray Davis and Kyle Williams. I like this roster. This is the hard part, though, about drafting in the middle. I prefer to be on one of the ends here because when you're in the middle, you're constantly
Starting point is 00:58:36 just getting smacked around from one side to the other side. It's really tough to gauge when those runs are going to happen. I don't like it. I know Boggs sometimes you actually like the middle of drafts. I, to me, this is that classic middle draft where it's like I try to just do the best I can, but I feel like anytime you try to plan out what you're going to do next, it basically never goes your way. I feel like I miss less being in the middle, but I understand what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:58:58 You know, you do have to wait on both sides Between both picks You don't get that double tap So if there's a couple guys you like You know you're going to get one but probably I mean the problem was You and I were bookending the draft So anybody that Joey was hoping to fall back
Starting point is 00:59:13 Oh yeah The fact that you guys were on the turns Did not make it easier Yeah But I always feel like every time we do these right How often do you see people win the draft Quote at the top at the bottom It's really hard to win the draft in the middle Dibro
Starting point is 00:59:27 Yeah, it is. I mean, because again, you're... I was happy finishing fourth. Like, I was like, okay, I'll finish four here. I mean, you kind of beholden to the runs and like we're with the bookends of the draft kind of do and with me and Bogman, it doesn't make it easy, man, no doubt. It does not. It does not.
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