The Herd with Colin Cowherd - FantasyPros - Does Drake London Have WR1 Overall Upside? | 12 INSANE League Winners To Target In Your 2025 Fantasy Football Drafts (Ep. 1592)

Episode Date: June 17, 2025

Join Seth Woolcock, Derek Brown, and Scott Bogman as they highlight 12 league winning players that you should be targeting in your 2025 fantasy football drafts! Timestamps: (May be off due to ads) Intro - 0:00:00 Drake London - 0:03:22 Jonathan Taylor - 0:08:11 Signed George Pickens Jersey Giveaway - 0:14:11 Kenneth Walker - 0:14:57 Omarion Hampton - 0:21:42 RJ Harvey - 0:27:50 Xavier Worthy - 0:35:17 DraftKings Sportsbook - 0:41:22 Ricky Pearsall - 0:43:11 Evan Engram - 0:48:36 Ray Davis - 0:52:55 J.J. McCarthy - 0:56:11 Anthony Richardson - 0:59:43 Cam Skattebo - 1:04:18 Outro - 1:08:58  Helpful Links: DraftKings Pick6 – Download the DraftKings Pick6 app NOW on Google Play or the App Store and use code FANTASYPROS. This offer is for new customers to play $5, get $50 in Pick6 credits. Only on DraftKings Pick6. The crown is yours.  Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. Help is available for problem gambling. Call 888-789-7777, or visit ccpg.org in Connecticut. Must be eighteen plus, age and eligibility restrictions vary by jurisdiction. Pick6 not available everywhere, including New York and Ontario. Void where prohibited. One per new customer. Bonus awarded as non-withdrawable Pick6 Credits that expire in thirty days. Limited time offer. See terms at https://pick6.draftkings.com/promos. Dynasty Rookie Draft Simulator - Our Dynasty Rookie Draft Simulator lets you complete a mock in minutes with no waiting between picks! Customize your league settings to match your league’s exact format. Premium subscribers can test trade scenarios by mocking with their traded draft picks. Prepare for rookie drafts AND dynasty startup drafts in one place! Use the Dynasty Rookie Draft Simulator to dominate your rookie draft today at fantasypros.com/simulator! Discord - Join our FantasyPros Discord Community! Chat with other fans and get access to exclusive AMAs that wind up on our podcast feed. Come get your questions answered and BE ON THE SHOW at fantasypros.com/chat Leave a Review – If you enjoy our show and find our insight to be valuable, we’d love to hear from you! Your reviews fuel our passion and help us tailor content specifically for YOU. Head to Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever else you get your podcasts and leave an honest review. Let’s make this show the ultimate destination for fantasy football enthusiasts like us. Thank you for watching and for showing your support – https://fantasypros.com/review/ BettingPros Podcast – For advice on the best picks and props across both the NFL and college football each and every week, check out the BettingPros Podcast at bettingpros.com/podcast, our BettingPros YouTube channel at youtube.com/bettingpros, or wherever you listen to podcasts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. All right. And welcome into the Fantasy Pro's Fantasy Football podcast, as Ricky Bobby said. If you ain't first, you're last. That's right. We're talking about 12 insane league winners to target in your 2025 fantasy football drafts. I'm your host Seth Wilcock, fresh off my league home draft position lottery this past weekend in the four hole this season. So hopefully I'll be circling some of these players we discussed today. and I'm joined by quite the cast of characters in this episode, including the King of Bros. Derek Brown, aka D. Bro.

Derek, great bit to be back with you today. How's your summer been so far since the NFL draft show concluded, my friend? Dude, it's been a lot of writing, a lot of dadding with the kids at home. Yeah. Three kids at home during the midst of content season is, is fun. I'll just say it's interesting. And then, you know, just trying to avoid the sun. And Joe gave me crap about it the last show that I did.

It is true. I got a freaking sunburn in the shade, guys. So it's been a tough sever so far. I can see it on your face a little bit. And you need that SPF 50. I think at least 50 plus. It didn't work. It didn't work.

200. I don't know. I'm going to have to get the triple digits now. Also joining us is my co-host over the from the betting pros college football show and the co-host of the Fancy Pros Dynasty podcast, a man who's so busy, so important that he left me on red for a good 10 days. recently. He's Scott Bogman. Good to see you, buddy. How are the summertime

vibes treating you down in Texas? Man, man, these days. That's really what it is. I got to update on my phone. Stuff doesn't show up where normally shows up anymore. Excuse, excuse, excuse. So I should call you Arch from now on? What's that?

Old Manning? Yeah, I, see, my hearing is so bad. Yeah, I just Oh, Arch Manning. Archie. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It is bad. Arch Manning. Come on. Yeah, that's for about here. But you know how my summer's been, Seth?

It's been Aaron Rogers centric. So, yeah, not so happy about that. We haven't even talked about it yet. But I don't think he was number one on your call sheet either. So, you know, it's just the way it is. But we're ready to talk about some insane upside guys here. I'm excited to do it. Yeah, I don't think any Aaron Rogers on the program today.

I don't think any Pittsburgh Steelers. I don't think they really fit into that category much. But today's show does look like this. We'll break down the guys' favorite league winners from rounds two to three, the mid-rounds, and some late-round dart throws as well. And before we jump in, I first wanted to shout out everyone who's watching on the Fantasy Pro's YouTube channel or listening on the podcast feed. Thank you so much for allowing us to do this for a living.

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300K, we're putting it out there for the people. Those old T-Mobiles, he's like, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, F, bing, bing, j. Oh, man, I'm so old, I'm using bat signals over here. Cemetery pigeons? Yeah, that still works. All right, let's go ahead and jump into our favorite league-winning big guns that reside in the rounds two and three of fantasy draft, starting with Debrough, who's all the way back in on last year's wide receiver five,

overall, who you got, D, bro? Dude, it's Drake London. It's been Drake London. It's still Drake London. I've put it out there on the social media man. He has got Dark Horse wide receiver one overall upside. And a lot of these wide receivers, if you're taking them in the second and third round, you want them to have this type of upside.

Right. They can be that league winning player for you that massively outproduces his ADP. I understand like he's going to wide receiver 10. I get it. You're going to have to pay up for a little bit for it. But there's still meat left on the bone, whereas there's a lot of guys where you're drafting in these ranges where it's just like, please, please just don't lose value. Please continue to be a top 15, a top 20 wide receiver.

Like you've been in previous years. But for Drake London, I think it's, it all comes down to not only is he got the volume and the pathway. Look at this passing offense. I mean, okay, Darno Mooney's there. nothing else Ray Ray McLeod, we're worried about stealing targets? Nope. We're worried about Kyle Pitts.

Dude can't even play a full-time role in his own offense. So no, I'm not worried about Kyle Pitts. So Drake London has the pathway to absolutely crush where we saw him produce and have the monster breakout season that I always thought he had in him. All we needed was better quarterback play with Michael Pennings this year. He could unlock a totally different level to Drake London. And I know this is a small sample and people are going to crush me for that. But with Michael Pennock's under center last year, three games,

Darno Mooney played two of those games. He had a 39% target share. He averaged 117, receiving yards per game. And his yards per route run jumped to 3.74. You said Darnal Mooney, but you met Drake London. No, Darno Mooney played two of the three games that Michael Pennock started, is what I was saying. Oh, because I'm looking at Drake London's numbers with Pennock starting, and they're eerily similar.

You say 7.3 receptions per game, 117.13.3 yards. cards per game in those games. If Pennick started with Drake London, that's crazy. And a touchdown. Dude, Drake London's going to crush this year. I think he has wide receiver won overall upside. Erickson's talked about this on other shows.

We always point to the Reds on role. We know he's going to get Reds on targets. The other thing is if the Addoch goes up because we think it's going to because Pennix is actually going to stretch the field versus Kirk Cousins. Right. Then Drake London has the ceiling to just absolutely eviscerate his current ADP and ECR. Yeah, 18 overall, ECR currently wide receiver 10. Number three in targets last year, which I think a lot of people overlook 9.2 per game. That's elite volume number four in receiving

yards as well. Also proved he's probably one of the league's best route runners. I know there's a lot of conversation when he was coming in. How good of a route runner is this guy? And I think he proved that he is one of the best number seven total routes one. So it feels like a great value in the second round of drafts. Boggs, the only question I think is, for those who are going to be either in or out with London at current ADP, is that the quarterback position is slightly unknown. Michael Pennix Jr. looked good in his three starts, but it was just three starts towards the end of the season as well.

That's really the hold up for me. I think a lot of fantasy managers with loving London like a league winner like our friend D. Bro does. Yeah, I mean, I like London as well. You said his ECR is 18. I haven't been 19, so I'm right in striking distance of wanting to draft Drake London. And, you know, look, you don't have to ask me if I'm a believer in Pennix. I have two reasons.

Number one, Fitz won't shut up about him. Fitz loves Michael Pennex. That's one of his favorite buys this year. You know, it is a small sample size. But, you know, it kind of showed the upside of what this offense can be with Michael Penix. Drake London in particular, like Deep Bro just pointed out, 7.3 receptions per game, 117 yards per game, 0.7 on the touchdown. So more likely to score touchdown than not. every game that he started with Michael Penick.

So you saw the upside. I saw Michael Pennox tear up my long horns in the college football playoff a couple of years ago. So I know that when he gets rolling and going downhill, there's no stopping him. There is not a guarantee that that is going to happen week in, week out, right? But he could be really good. So we could be sitting in a gold mine with this Falcons offense. And Drake London is going to be, you know, the second best piece of it behind Bejan Robinson. And that is a very good place to be if Michael Pennix gets it.

rolling downhill like he showed at the end of last year. Yeah, I don't like the secondaries in this division either. Like Tampa Bay, they addressed it a little bit in the second round of the draft, adding Benjamin Morrison. But aside from that, like not afraid of their secondary, not afraid of Carolina secondary either. So I think potentially some upside there for Drake London. Boggs, let's go to you and move forward.

But stay still in rounds two and three, this time featuring one of your favorite running back targets that might have league winning upside. Yeah, I feel like I'm the last, you know, fighter for Jonathan Taylor here. You are. And I know, I understand. And look, you know, we're picking the name of this show is insane picks, right? Like, I don't even think this is insane. This guy is getting pushed down to the second round. There's a lot of good running backs now, specifically with this class coming in. So I understand it. He's also had injury issues. So there's two big ifs, right? The big ifs are ifs, if JT can stay healthy.

Because we know last year the talent is still there. In terms of points per game, he was fifth. So the upside is still incredible for Jonathan Taylor. And do they get any sort of good quarterback play? Because he was a top five point per game producer with horrific quarterback play last year. I mean, bottom of the barrel got awful QB play last year. So there's not a guarantee that that is.

is going to improve this year, right? Maybe Anthony Richardson doesn't take a step. Maybe they have to go to Daniel Jones, and Daniel Jones is kind of what we know he is at this point. I love to see him out of New York and get to maybe somewhat of a, you know, competent offense here. But this offense, look at it. I mean, look at how potent this could be if they fit it. I still believe in Pittman.

I know he had a bad year last year, but no one was throwing the ball. Josh Downs is so good in contested situations. They added Tyler Warren. over there. True. Adon I Mitchell and Alec Pierce had an awesome year with all that bad quarterback play last year. So I just think he's already a guy that is producing at a top five level in a per game

basis, right? If you get competent quarterback play and he can stay on the field and I know people look at DJ Giddens going there and saying, well, you know, they have a good backup now. Maybe he's not going to get used as much. Good. Take three or four touches away from him every game and keep him a little bit healthier throughout the season. I think that's great for him.

So I just see, you know, I see the path to JT being back on top of the running back mountain at the end of the year if this offense could get rolling. Is it the most likely situation? Probably not. But that's why we're calling this insane league winners, right? So I still think JT has the talent to be at the tip of the spear among running backs just has to stay on the field. I've been pretty all in on JT the past two seasons.

We got him at around 8 discount back in 2023 when he had that holdout situation going on that led to the injury. And then also last year, I took him right around that one, two, turn in a lot of drafts. He didn't really leave me hanging like he still scored at least double digit PPR points in all but three games. And he was a league winner down the stretch late in the season. I still felt somewhat disappointed though because he did have career lows in the receiving outputs. I worry we could see something similar this year. AR doesn't seem to throw a lot to the running backs, nor does Daniel Jones. And the Colts feel like, to me, D, bro, that maybe this whole thing is blown up by midseason.

So I'm out on JT. Where do you land? I've got him still as an RB1, I have my current ranks, but he's not a guy that I'm like gravitating to and prioritizing and drafts and stuff like that. And for much of the same reasons you mentioned that, like, I know the volume is going to be there. I have questions about the offense. I don't think the past game upside is going to be there. So I think Jonathan Taylor, you're kind of hoping for like a Nick Chubb type of runout.

Like Derek Henry, yeah. Yeah, yeah, where the early down volume gets there, the touchdowns are there. The bigger thing that I think kind of concerns me most about Jonathan Taylor is the explosive run rate was still awesome last year. His tackle breaking metrics. And I will give a caveat here. Obviously, we know he was not 100% healthy last year. Sure. And so can that bring these numbers down?

but when you see some of these guys with the volumes built up, he's not 21, 22, 23 years old anymore. And last year, 11% miss tackle rate, 2.03 yards after contact per attempt. Those numbers are kind of frightening when he needs to make, like how he's going to do cash his paychecks in fantasy for people is on the early downs. Because again, none of us are talking about he's going to have this massive pass game upside, catch 40, 50 balls this year. It's not going to happen with anybody under center there because, instead of doing that, they're going to take off running. So if the past game utility is not there to kind of save him and he needs to absolutely crush on the early downs,

outside of volume, I even have some questions about his effectiveness there because we didn't see it last year, but he still was RB7 to Bogman Point, and then all goes back to the volume. So volume probably carries him and wins the day, not a guy that I'm going to reach for prioritizing drafts. If he falls in a draft, maybe I'll get him.

He had to have faced more stackbox. look into it, but he had to have faced more sack boxes last year than any other year because they couldn't get, I mean, Anthony Richardson was so miserable passing the ball. Yeah. Eight, nine man fronts. So if they can just get a little bit of help of pushing back the linebackers a step, you know, getting one of those guys out of the box and on the perimeter a little bit more, that will go a long way for JT breaking some of those tackles. It'll be against one or two guys instead of three or four this year, hopefully. So, you know, and finishing as a top five in points per game last year, it's still, the talent is still in there.

Yeah. It's not going to last forever. This is right where running backs hit their peak. This is 26 for him. So, you know, this is probably the last huge one unless you start turning into a freak like Derek Henry, like Sequin Barkley, and with his injury history, I don't know if that's going to be the case. Yeah, definitely, definitely a toss up there.

But Bogman, he's liking the upside of JT in the early round. And Dibro, all in on Drake, Lund. Before we get to the mid-round league winners, if you want a chance to win a sign Pittsburgh Steelers George Pickens jersey for free, courtesy our friends over at pristineauction.com, all you have to do is subscribe to the Fantasy Pro's YouTube channel right now. Drop a comment below on any Fantasy Pro's Fantasy Football podcast video,

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not happy about the Pickens trade. I think you and I did discuss that one. Yes, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Hey, playing for next year, baby. Playing for next year, that's my hope there. Moving into the mid-round breakouts, D-Bro, who is your first league winner from rounds four through eight?

Did we all, are we all pretending that 2024 didn't happen? Did everybody just wake up today and submit rankings and decide in drafts that we're all going to pretend that Kenneth Walker wasn't an RB one last year because that's what everybody's basically doing. He's the RB 16 and ECR all throughout the best ball streets. He's an RB2. What doesn't matter where you're drafting at. And I think it's absolutely ludicrous. He was the RB 12 and fantasy points per game last year, people. He was already an RB1. So why are we doing this? Oh, you're worried about Zach Charbonnet.

when Kenneth Walker is healthy Charbonnet has not been a factor a heavy factor this has not been a split backfield oh you don't think he can catch passes okay well all of those bad narratives when he was a prospect got crushed last year

Kenneth Walker amongst 45 qualifying running backs last season third and first downs per route run sixth in targets per route run sixth in receiving yards per game he's also one of the best early down rushers in the entire freaking NFRAs

because Kenneth Walker last year also led the NFL a mistackle rate and was top 10 in yards into contact for attempt. So I don't understand why everybody's so scared and they do not want to draft Kenneth Walker. And we just talked about injuries with Jonathan Taylor, but nobody seems to care about those with Jonathan Taylor. But they want to cite those with Kenneth Walker. That makes absolutely zero sense. I just don't get it, guys. He's a league winner. I have him as an RB1, he is RB10 in my ranks. And for everybody that says that that's crazy, he was RB12 last year. If this offensive line takes even a small step forward this year, he's going to explode. So I know I'm not working because the other thing I know the YouTube comments are going to come in,

he's got a minor ankle injury. He's already hurt. I don't care. It's freaking June, people. The team's already come out and said they don't care about the ankle injury. they're holding him back. They want him ready for training camp and when it's go time, I want to draft Kenneth Walker everywhere. If you're giving me RB2 prices on an RB1 that has shown massive passing game upside, with freaking Sam Darnold under center this year,

we know first hint to pressure he's going to check it down. Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to draft Kenneth Walker everywhere. 44 overall on ECR RB 16. So I do really like the value of Walker, especially when you consider that, like you said, D, D, bro, He had career high receiving numbers last year in just 11 games. I think that can continue with Sam Darnold liking to check the ball down.

However, this Seattle offensive line is what I think gives myself and a lot of other rankers and fans a little bit of a little bit of pause. Even after drafting the Bushlight drinking offensive guard, Gray Zabel out of the FCS in the first round. So where do you land on him, Bogman? Yeah, I haven't met RB15. I love Ken Walker. I think the talent is insane.

I was where Debrough is last season on him. He got hurt, obviously. But like Debrose said, this is very similar to Jonathan Taylor. And honestly, I probably would have skipped J.T. And had Kenneth Walker on my list had I got my list first. But Seth made this chat for us. And Debrose, like, here's my picks. Like five seconds in.

I mean, he's a hardworking man. He's a hardworking man. I'm like, can we wait until like Saturday maybe? Give me a chance to get some names in here. Two names. I'll wait a few minutes. Everybody knows. Everybody knows the two names that I'm going to be mad about.

This is one of them. The other one you guys are going to be really surprised by. But the Ken Walker talk, I mean, I have been a Ken Walker fan since this time in Michigan State. You know, this is a guy that faced eight, nine, ten man stack boxes because Brian Lerwerke was his quarterback and still ran through. everybody gutted that amazing Michigan defense that went on to win the national title a couple seasons later, right? So like Ken Walker has the talent to be a upper echelon running back. It's just about staying healthy. But I will say this for him. And like Debrose said, when you go to a quarterback like Sam Darnold, what is the best thing you can do for him? You can run the ball effectively

to make some of these passing lanes open later. They're going to run the crum. rap out of the ball with Walker and Charbonnet as as uh that two-headed monster there i mean sharpeney is worth way more than the carries that he gets in seattle i think that's what scares people off of seattle or out off of walkers we got a little taste of it when walker was gone but walker is still better than Charboning like Charbonnet is great but walker is still better so is he an injury risk yes but we're calling this the insane league winners it would be insane if he vaulted up to a top five running back, but the talent is there. I think that's what we're trying to find in this show, as we're trying to find talent

that either the injuries, something doesn't match up in their ECR. And Kenneth Walker is 100% one of those guys. D, bro, if you were going to draft Kenneth Walker's early as you have them in your rankings, are you also grabbing Charbonnet in the triple digit numbers as well? Like 116 in ECR currently, he was an RB1 in games that Kenneth Walker was gone. So do you want that like a handcuff on your bench with Sharbs or are you okay missing out on the weeks that Kenneth Walker's out? I'm not. I'm not if you're, this all goes back to to ethos of guys that we're drafting.

If you're drafting these guys, you are making a bet and you're placing a chip down that they are going to crush. I'm not hedging that bet. Okay. I understand people that if they want to, but if Kenneth Walker gets hurt, whatever. I mean like, say he stays healthy for the first 12 games of the season, first eight, nine games of the season. Are you still holding Charbonnet at that point on your bench? Or if you probably cut loose and you have somebody else, like you're probably not holding on to that guy six,

seven weeks into the season, especially your team, whether you start off like just crushing other teams and you start off like undefeated or you're struggling, the reality that he's still on your bench at that time is very slim. So for me, if I'm making, if we're doing all this work in the pre-draft process in the summer and I'm making bets on certain players to absolutely crush,

I'm going to say it with my chest. Okay. I also think Sharms is probably too expensive to handcuff. Yeah, fair. I think someone's going to take them a little bit higher than your traditional handcuff type player. Very, very, very true. Yeah.

Boggs, let's go ahead and stay out on the West Coast and get to your favorite mid-round target. Yeah, let's go to Omari and Hampton, the running back coming out of North Carolina and ending up with the Chargers here. Currently, his ECR is 55, he's 52. I'm only like one spot higher than him on ECR, but I know there's pushback against Hampton having an enormous season in his rookie year because Najee Harris is there.

But I do think you and I would agree, Seth, that while Najee is a guy that can handle an insane amount of volume, he's kind of a jag in NFL circles. Now, I will say this. All the hype that I have for Amari and Hampton coming into the NFL is exactly the type of hype that I had for Najee Harris

coming into the NFL with my own team, right? Because he went, you know, he went to Alabama. He had enormous, you know, production there and also great. In the scouting combine, his athletic score, the jumping, you know, hurtling, all that stuff. Naji is great. But his secret is stamina.

It's not anything flashy. Hampton has everything, man. Listen to some of these stats. Fifth and rushing attempts in college last year. Fourth in rushing yards. Six in yards per carry. Six in run grade. Third in yards.

after contact, six in mistackles force, fourth in explosive runs, fifth in breakaway yards, seventh in breakaway percentage, ninth in running back receptions, third in running back receiving yards, fifth in running back yards per route run, and seventh in elusive rating for O'Mary and Hampton in college last season. This is a dude that can come in and have an insane year. Last year, he had over 300 touches in North Carolina, went for over 2,000 yards, and had 17 touchdowns. That is insane production.

He ain't going to get that in the same. the NFL. But I think it's going to be a much wider gap between touches for Hampton and Najee Harris than most projections have him for. Could it be closer specifically in the beginning? Absolutely. I think at the end of the day, Omaray and Hampton is going to run away with this job at the end of the year, which is going to have him finish total points probably as a low end a RB1 or a high end RB2 somewhere in that range and if something happens to Naji and he gets a bunch

of carries which look, Noges seems like the Terminator's never missed a game right? Like he's insane. But if anything does happen to Naji and Hampton is getting the lion's share Hampton is going to put up monstrous numbers. So if we're looking at insane upside, Hampton absolutely hasn't. Yeah, I think I'm in line with you because I feel like we've seen this

movie before. Talented young rookie running back comes in. There's a veteran on there who can snatch up some volume. Whether it was like when J.T. came in the league and he had Martinlin Mac there, Mac ends up tearing his Achilles like week one and then the floodgates open for JT. Or maybe it's a more gradual thing, like how Jemir Gibbs came in and potentially doesn't have the best start of the season. Dave Montgomery ends up going down. Is lightning in a bottle? They can't put the Jeannie back into it. So we know that Hampton is special, D, bro. We know that he can handle the volume, led the ACC and rushing attempts the past two seasons.

But the question is it, will he see it in year one? And will he see it early enough in that rookie year that justifies the cost and not just trading for him down the line? Man, I hope so. My worries, and this is why I didn't include him on my list, I'm a little bit below ECR. I do that worry that Najee Harris kind of hangs around. Because, again, like, we know what is strong.

Like he's solid. He's not spectacular, man. I mean, he's basically the David Montgomery of this offense now. Like not in the sense of skill set, pattern breaking. Like, you know what you're getting on Anage Harris. He's going to play every single game this season. He's not going to get hurt.

If he does get banged up, he's going to play through it. He's going to break tackles, get you four yards. If you need four yards, five yards. If you need that, he'll get you four yards. That's about what you're going to get on. And I just worry that he's going to hang around too much that it's going to hurt Hampton. But look, if the bolts give the keys to this backfield to Marion Hampton, yes, everything Boggman laid out here. Everything is going to come to fruition.

Agreed. The only other thing that I'll bring up here, and this is, again, going back to something we kind of mentioned or we talked about, we were talking about J.T. and his upside and his floor and stuff is the fact that, I mean, at this point, we know in a Greg Roman offense, they're just not throwing the ball to the running back position. Even with Justin Herbert under center last year, you had the Los Angeles Chargers finished with a second lowest running back target share in the NFL. So the other part about it is if he doesn't gain all of the work in the backfield and the red zone equity, he doesn't have any of the past game stuff to fall back on. If that's split up, even if that pie is given to him, it's not a ton,

man. So is the talent there for him to crush? Absolutely. He just needs nausea to just go away. I think if you're drafting Omerian Hampton, I absolutely believe, like I'm with you, I think by the end of the year, he is a league winner. I just think you have to practice a little bit of patience, right? Like, don't go trading them after week two or week three because he's probably going to be averaging somewhere between like nine to 12 points per game. But, you know, the 15 plus points could come the last four or five weeks when you really need it. And Seth, it's a great point that you make here.

Remember this. If you're not the one that drafts him. Yes, yes. Remember this conversation. And then, you know, if people are getting frustrated with him, try to make a deal for him. early in the season and then right out that end because Hampton is better than Naji. And I hate crapping on Naji's a wonderful thing. I love him.

Yeah, agreed. You know, we watched a lot of Emmys a Jack in the NFL, I think. So stamina is this thing. You know, producing is not. So, yeah, bookmark this, this timestamp here. Put Boggs face in it as the JPEG. Save it in your folder for later down the road and you're going to open it up and you'll be happy you did. To no surprise,

D. Bro, you're also in on a rookie running back being a league winner. This one coming by way of the mile high city. Dude, it's R.J. Harvey's world. I mean, I just I don't understand how like

in what world realm are we living in. We are worried about Aldrich estimate J.L. McLaugh and people's newest excuse, J.K. Dobbins. Yes. I just don't get it, man. Like,

people wanted to shade, like R.J. Harvey was an RB3 in ECR. He's a low end RB2 on a lot of different bestball sites. I cannot wrap my head around this. I don't understand it because it's like people just want to push back against the hype. They weren't high enough on him as a prospect. Yep. He went high.

He got the absolute awesome landing spot. We all hoped if this would have been Amarian Hampton, if this would have been. Oh, yeah. Probably even Caleb Johnson. I mean, Trayvion Henderson. Name any one of those three running backs.

If this would have been that name tied to Denver, that people would be like, oh, it's RJ Harrow. Like, they would be like just cutting backflips to draft this dude as a top 12, top 15 back, but it's R.J. Harvey. So people are like, oh, I don't know. What about Audrakees to me? No.

Sean Payton, who decided the running back rotation last year, said it wasn't even Audrakeesstimate time. It wasn't Julio Magelof on time, RIP to me. It just wasn't, man. Jvante Williams stayed out there for all of it. And R.J. Harvey's not going to get most of the work in this backfield. The high leverage touches. The pass game stuff.

And for everybody being like, oh, well, R.J. Harvey can't pass protect. Oh, so you think that he's going to trust Estimera McLaughlin, who a grand total of 16 pass blocking snaps last year? J.K. Dobbins, a new guy who's going to come and improve that from the hop. Dude, I just don't understand how we're going to talk ourselves out of a league winning back. and what we all think is going to be a top 12 scoring offense. They were last year. He produced over his final two collegiate seasons, top 20 and breakaway percentage and elusive

rating in both of those. And we know Sean Payton, we know Sean Payton is going to target the running back position in the passing game because he's done it every single freaking season. He's ever been in the NFL in the last two years in Denver, top five and running back target share in both of those years. But all these reasons, people are like, yeah, but Archie Harvey's still an RB3. in my rankings. Come on, man. Yeah, 77 overall ECR, RB27. And I've been with you. I've been hearing you, D. Bro, really all spring preaching

the good word that is R.J. Harvey. But at the same time, you know, I do worry about Dobbins just a little bit, because he is coming off a season with career highs across the board in carries, rushing yards, and receptions, even though, you know, the Greg Roman offense didn't produce a ton of them. So with that said, Bogman, I, I'm still drafting RJ Harvey. I just think I have a little bit less hope that he could be, you know, a top five overall running back. Despite this being a guy that every time we tried to fade UCF over on the BP College

Football Show the past couple years, never worked out because of this man right here. RJ Harvey just puts it together, man. How do we know if he could pass block or not? Would he get 10 chances all of last season, right? They just ran the crap out of the football at UCF. They ran like, they literally ran the ball like, I think it was 66% of the time, 63% of time, somewhere in that neighborhood. It was one of the higher clips last season. And R.J. Harvey was the guy.

And this is the thing. Look, Dobbins isn't a nothing, right? He doesn't come in here and do nothing. He comes in here and he pushes that, Audric Estime and Jalil McLaughlin to the back of the lunch line. But R.J. Harvey, they drafted. They put more into getting R.J. Harvey. They gave him a nice drafts. spot and guess who they could have had that entire time.

They could have had Dobbins before that, right? Like, so, I don't know, man. Like, I just don't. It is going to be a one-two punch for sure. But this is just like Najee and Omari and Hampton to me, although the gap is wider. You know what I mean? Like, the gap is much, much, well.

I feel like the gap is wider between Najee and Hampton than it is Montgomery and Gibbs. Like, I think those two are closer in town, even though Gibbs is amazing than Hampton and Noggi. And I think Hampton and Naji are closer than Harvey and Dobbins. So like I just think that we're getting further away from, you know, like Dobbins, is he going to impact things? Yes, of course he is. But he's going to push Estime and McLaughlin out, not Harvey.

I have Harvey at 22 among running backs. RB2D bro. That's for you, baby. So I'm not moving him down from there. maybe to, you know, maybe I put him below Henderson. But I don't know. I think Henderson is probably on the lower end with Stevenson there. I'm more afraid of that than I am Dobbins for Harvey.

So I'm probably going to stick with Harvey right at where I have him at 22. And I think there's a ton of upside there with him. Absolutely. Two different things here, boys, before we move on. One, I absolutely love the comparison that you just made Bogman between Hampton. And it's, it's so apropos. Like, and if you look at these two situations, It's like, are you worried about J.K. Dobbins?

Are you worried more about Najee Harris? You should be worrying more about Najee Harris. And then you look at both of these, both of these offenses. One of them has proven they will not throw to the running backs, but people seem to not care about that at all. And the other has proven over a decade that the running back is an integral part of the passing game. Yes, good point.

But everybody's like, so I mean, to be honest, like, yes, R.J. Harvey and Arampton, if anything, their ranking should be flipped. But if you believe in Hampton, then both of these guys should be in the time. top 24. Like, the addition of J.K. Dobbins did nothing to my RJ Harvey rank because the other part about looking at RJ Harvey and his runout for this season, I never and nobody, nobody should have ever projected this guy to get 275, 300 carries. So if that's not what you're projecting, I always believe there was going to be a running back and will be a running back in this offense next to Harvey that's going to siphon off 100 to 125 carries. That's going to

going to happen. Oh, okay, cool. The Broncos just said, we don't believe Estimaze that guy. We're just going to J.K. Dobbins to be that guy. Fine. I don't care. Yeah. Last thing for me on this and kind of related just due to Bogman's comp, though, nothing beat in high school, getting to the lunch line early, man. Like, yeah. That's fair. When you're at the front of that line, like you feel like a king. Whoever was the teacher that let you go down to lunch, you know, just 30 seconds early. Beat the little bit of a rush. Good times. I was like an Olympic sprinter to the lunch line. As a fat kid, number one, I want that food, right? But really what it was was we played football at at lunch. So my group

tried to scarf our lunch down so he could go play football. Sure, that ended poorly a couple times. I'm broke my nose. I hope up. Yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Well, I just, that it did not end well. They made us stop doing it. But yeah, yeah, you're absolutely right. I will not hype up lunchroom hamburgers, but I will say, warm versus cold, yeah, you probably want to be on the front of the line. Yeah, good, good point. Also staying on brand is Bogming with his next league winner that is a former Texas longhorn. Hook him Boggs, who you got here, man.

I know, I know. Look, it's Xavier Worthy, my guy for the Kansas City Chiefs. Look, I get it. Rice is back. Hollywood Brown is back. Yes. They drafted Jaylon Royals. Yes.

Travis Kelsey's not going to have as bad a year. I understand all of these arguments. about why Worthy is where he is, right? But what about this? What if Worthy is just really, really good, right? What type of upside does Worthy have? I don't just spoiled it. It's Tyree Kill type of upside.

They have the same type of skill set. It's speed on speed on speed, right? And if we look at, I mean, the three game playoff pace, I extrapolated it, boys. It's absurd. I'm not even going to read it. Led the playoffs in receiving yards, yeah. Yeah, I'm not even going to read it.

740 receptions, 3,400 yards. It's 16,126 yards, and 17th. That's what it is. Okay. Now, let's take the last three weeks of the regular season and the playoffs. It's a little more realistic, still insanely high. It's 148 targets, 113 targets, 113 catches, 151 yards, and 14 scores. He's not getting that.

Like, I'm not sitting here trying to sell that to you. But I will say, what does that look like, gentlemen? That looks like some peak Tyreek Hill years right there. That extrapolation, right? Like 111, 1239, and 9, 119, 17, 10, and 7, his best year in 23, 1799 and 13 touchdowns on 119 catches for Tyreek Hill. That's the type of insane upside. I feel like Xavier Worthy has. Is he going to get that in the Chiefs offense?

Most likely not. I think he, what I want worthy as is my. Wide receiver 3. That's why I have him ranked at 25 in my rankings. He's my 25th wide receiver because he is the first option I want when we get down to those RB3s because he's an upside play every single week because of his big playability. So I want my two steady eddies and I want my third wide receiver every time to be Xavier worthy just in case he does put together one of those insane years.

And him and Mahomes, you know, I think the thing that helped worthy the most was all these guys, being out at the end of the year so he could develop with Mahomes. Obviously, Kelsey was, and Kelsey was just, you know, seemed like he wasn't playing healthy the whole year or he was distracted. But he's coming back. You expect him to be better. You expect Rice to be just as good coming back. He's already been working in camp. So I expect him to be there.

Maybe we get the suspension. Maybe we don't. I just don't even know what is happening with it anymore for Rishi Rice. But I am really excited about what Worthy is going to put together. this year and I want to miss my wide receiver three on every team I put together. I think he definitely fits in this bucket of insane league winners, right? Like I think if you're looking for pure upside, he's there. I'm just mixed on this Kansas City wide receiver core as a whole because like you said,

we got royals in the mix, Hollywood Brown's back. And at the same time, like Worthy felt like he only took off once he kind of pushed juju out of that Rashid Rice roll that they kind of put juju into before he got hurt. So I just have no clue who's going to have that rice roll in the high. high target short a dot type of situation that worthy really excelled in down the stretch d bro i just don't know if that's worthies now going forward or if it's rice who'll slot back into it so i'm just mixed on it how do you feel man i this passing attack has been um frustrating to kind of like dice up and figure out i think the more that i've kind of thought about this is i think rice goes

back into the into his role because if you look at how all these skill sets kind of mash up I think Worthy proved that he can play Rishie Rice's role over the back half of the season with the high design design target rate, the low A dot and stuff. I don't think Rishie Rice can play the Xavier Worthy role and run the deep stuff. So that that's why I worry that could Xavier Worthy play the Rishie Rice role? It's possible. But when you mix up all these different skill sets, I don't think Rice can play Worthy's role. and is Hollywood going to be the field stretcher running the go rats running clear outs i mean that could be possible and maybe you're going to be on the iR by week three yeah that's that's also possible too

so for me i i think the big thing that concerns me for worthy isn't even a worthy thing it's my homes i think a lot the way that we have contextualized and talked about this offense over the last two years and why they've done some of the things that they've done and said okay we've all said oh it's all too high and they're taking away the deep balls and blah blah blah and and that's why it's dink and everything's underneath dude can we also just just keep it a buck here and also say that this also might be a follow-up for the fact that patrick mahomes has been legit one of the worst deep ball passes in the NFL over the last two years and that has also massively impacted this and i know chiefs fans don't want to hear that they also don't want to hear the

numbers that he has been bottom 10 and CPOE on deep targets of the last two years. He's also been top 10 and off target rate. Mahomes has legitimately been terrible anytime he's asked to throw down the field. And so regardless of like, if they are stretching the field, if that's the role that worthy plays, then Holmes's play and his play as a deep passer is going to incredibly impact Xavier Worthy. If he's in the Rishi Rice, kudos, wheels up, let's go. We know what that looks like. Even if they're rotating between this, that's going to hurt worthy if Mahomes is still a future deep passer this year.

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We'll move a little bit quicker here and let's switch things up. Boggs. your first of three league winners from rounds nine plus. Let's go with Ricky Pearsall, wide receiver from the Niners here. CCR currently I have it as 108. I have him at 85 overall. Wide receiver 47, I have him at 37. A lot like Worthy being my first wide receiver three.

I want Pearsall as my first wide receiver four. And I think we all saw the potential at the end of the season. When he got the snaps and targets, those games were huge. but if we do the extrapolating bit that we're not supposed to do, right? The games that he played in at least 30 passing snaps. Okay. Five of them, that would be 85 catches, 1159 yards, and 11 touchdowns. So you see the insane upside of a guy like this.

But, you know, Iyuk is back. Jennings is still good. Kittles healthier. We have, I mean, if you believe it, we have Christian McCaffrey coming back, which I will not be taking Christian McCaffrey. and I still almost picked him in this show, right? Because his upside is enormous. But look, I think there are a couple things we're missing here.

Yes, those guys are still going to be there, but kills a year older. Is Iyuk the same guy coming off a major injury? Is Pearsall just better than Jennings? I think Joanne Jennings is great. I think he's awesome. But I also acknowledge that Pearsall might just be straight up better than him. So we're going to see Pearsall on the field a ton this. season. And, you know, last year in Dynasty, I was way down on this guy. I thought the draft stock

was great, but I was like, well, when does he play? Because going into the year, you had Kittle, you had CMC, you had, um, how you can, Dibo was still there, right? But now it's so different. It's CMC and IU coming off of major injuries. Kittle is officially old. Uh, C, um, Debo is gone. So the situation is completely different. And I think that, uh, There's a lot of upside and a lot of potential targets for Ricky Pearsall. It's just where is he going to end up in the pecking order here? Because he could be fourth. That would not be a shock.

And I think that's kind of where you have to think that he is going into the draft. You can't push him too far beyond that, which is why his ECR is post 100, right? But there is not a hard ladder to climb here as hard ladder as people would give it to. If CMC is not the same guy, and I don't trust anything the Niners say about injured player, after all of this fiasco with CMC last year and bilateral Achilles tendonitis. They have to go to Germany to fix, right? The landscape of this offense,

the pecking order, is just different. And I think things are going to get settled early in the season. It could be back to Iyuk and Kiddell and CMC could be amazing. And, you know, now Pierce-all is fourth, fifth in the pecking order and it's him and Jennings. But I really think with the upside that he has

and those couple huge games. His projections are closer to, I believe, when I was looking, I thought I wrote it down and I didn't. But I believe it was somewhere around 780 yards and five touchdowns. A couple injuries away from being a thousand-yard guy in seven or eight touchdowns, which is a great option on your bench as it goes right now. Yeah, I love the efficiency that Pierce All Hyde last season, 17th in quarterback rating per target, 26 as well in fancy points per target.

Like those are great numbers. And to me, fantasy football and the draft is a lot like stocks. And I think his stock will be very high before Brandiuk gets back to full health. You could potentially draft him, get a couple good weeks from him, then flip him for maybe even a more promising wide receiver or other asset down the stretch D, bro. I'm all in on Pierceall, man. I'm with you Boggs. You said, where do you have him ranked right now? 37 among whiteouts.

Okay. And you had him in the 80s, so what it was it, 80s? 85 overall. Okay, I have him 73rd overall, and I've got him Wide Receiver 33, so we're basically handholding, dude. I think we could probably flip a lot of these guys on the list from mine and yours. I mean, dude, the thing it comes down to it for me is if we take the name out of it and you said there is a former first-round NFL Wide Receiver

that flashed in the finals two weeks of pretty much a lost rookie season, a veteran wide receiver is gone. Yes, he still has to compete with an elite tight end. Another starting wide receiver is coming off a major knee injury, and he's fighting for targets in that offense opposite a 27-year-old breakout player. I just feel like we're contextualizing it wrong with Ricky Piracall. This is the player. This is the type of player that you embrace the risk.

Because, again, the price points not high, dude. like even drafting him aggressively. We're still talking about a wide receiver three or four on your team. Now we're talking about him in the light that he can out produce this and smash these rankings. But the risk is already baked in. Like overtly. So like why not, dude? Yeah, there's no downside.

Like what is the downside of drafting? He doesn't work out. Your draft capital is a killer. It's not a pick that's going to ruin your season. So if you draft him and he doesn't do anything, you can dump him. So I really like rostering Pierceall if I can this year. D. Bro, you're still on that Rocky Mountain High with your next league winner pick laid on us. Dude, it's Evan Ingram.

Why the heck are we at ranking, depending on what you're looking at for ECR? Evan Ingram's anywhere from like Titan 7 to Titan 10. And I just, why? It doesn't make any sense, man. This is a consolidated passing attack. Bo Nix did what he did in his rookie season. He was awesome. he's competing with Cortland freaking Sutton for the team leading targets.

We've already seen top five upside from this tight end and everybody points back to 2024 and says, oh, look at these metrics and blah. Dude, he still did the one thing that we all freaking care about. That's earned targets. Even last year when Evan Ingram was hurt. And might I add, the first season that he's popped up on the injury report since 2021. So all this other stuff about him being injury prone that I've also heard people talk about, is also BS.

Evan Ingram has top three upside at the tight end position this year. He's going to crush. He's going to get a ton of targets in this offense. I just don't understand where the downside is, man. And the guy has shown that type of upside target earning ability. And in the two previous seasons before the injured 2024, he was 13th and 14th in yards per route run. He was top 12 in target share in each of those seasons.

And I always point back to this one single metric. because if you look at this metric, every single year, it is the top shelf guys of fantasy royalty at tight end, and that's yards per route run against man coverage amongst the tight ends. Before 2024, those two seasons, Evan Ingram, fourth and eighth in that metric. He's still got the juice, guys. Evan Ingram's 2023 seasons still stands second in all-time tight-end receptions with 114. So we're not that far removed from that. Bogman, I think the question is, for a lot of fantasy men,

interests. Once you get to this range, are you just waiting and fading the tight end position? Because that's kind of how I feel like if I don't take Brock Bowers early, which I'm not doing a lot this year, if I don't get a kiddle, you know, somewhere in those middle rounds, like I'm just waiting for a Tyler Warren for a Kincaid, you know, a Fryeer move with one of these guys way down the board. So would you stand pack and make this decision and draft someone like Evan Ingram? Or are you just kind of fading this whole tier of tight ends? I mean, I just, I'm with you, Seth, in the fact that I just fade tight end after the top like two or three right like you know it's bowers i think mcbride gets back on top i still think kiddle you know is the best tight end in the league

maybe not the best you know fantasy tight end obviously that's bowers but just talking about overall i think kiddle is the best tight end in the league so it's not one of those three guys i have laporta and hockinson locked in pretty solid at four and five okay uh and kelsey in that mix as well after that i don't care. Like just whoever. If Ingram is your guy, great. It's Ingram. If it's John who Smith, if it's, you know, coming off his big year and getting traded. If it's Mark Andrews after. No, we don't need John who traded, man. Keep him there. Please, God. But we do not need that. But yeah, I mean, if you want to take one of those rookies with upside, if Ingram is your guy, though, I understand it. Ingram is proven. I think that's the thing between him and the

rookies. Right. The rookies have more upside? Sure, maybe. But is it guaranteed? Absolutely not. Tight end is one of the

harder positions to come in the NFL and dominate, which is why there's no Brock Bowers in this class because there's no Brock Bowers in any class, right? It's very, very rare to have those type of guys.

We want to find a guy, but, you know, we put it on the wrong guy all the time. We put it on pits. His rookie season was great. After that, he's been bad. We put it on, Noah Fant, didn't do anything.

You know what I mean? We put it on two. many of these guys that just don't turn out Dalton Kincaid was the most recent one that we were saying like, oh, he's totally going to be amazing and it didn't work out. But, you know, Evan Ingram is a steady Eddie. So if he's your guy, he's going so late. He's going to get a great deal. Yeah, yeah. I don't like the dynamism position overall. There's no reason there should be a two round discount or a two round separation between him and T.J. Hawkins. I agree. I agree with that. I agree with that. 100%. bugs. So let's go back to you and let's head to Western New York for your next league winner.

One of the best stories coming out of that 2024 NFL draft cycle. Yeah, I love Ray Davis. It's just such a hard nose running back. And this one is probably the biggest reach that I have. And this, unlike before we were talking about Charbonnet, you know, too expensive to be a handcuff. Ray Davis is not too expensive to be a handcuff for James Cook. And this guy has proven at many places in college he had to bounce around you know to temple to vandy to kentucky to finish off his career that he can be a major contributor and he already has way surpassed by johnson on the depth chart right james cook is in a contract dispute right now but we see what playing next to uh josh allen can be when a guy like james cook is scoring 16 touchdowns you know if i pick a guy to

score 16 touchdowns in a season, it's never going to be James Cook. And I think James Cook is awesome. But it's going to be Derek Henry. It's going to be Sequin Barkley. You know, it's going to be Jonathan Taylor. It's not going to be James Cook. But because he plays next to Josh Allen, he got in there 16 times. This offense is insanely potent.

And if Ray Davis gets a shot to be the guy, I think that he can be just as good, if not better than James Cook, given the opportunity. And, you know, he's not going. I don't think he's going to take a huge step without something happening to Cook. But Cook is a free agent in 2026. Maybe they want to get Ray Davis just a little bit of a longer look, a little more experience to take over next year because they're definitely not extending. James Cook is what it looks like right now.

And that also could get ugly going into training camp. So there's, you know, paths to Ray Davis getting too big production, but I think most of it is going to be if James Cook gets hurt. So a nice handcuff. And if he gets the opportunity, to play all those snaps, the upside is enormous for a guy like Ray Davis. So I know we're counting out Blake Corm on this show with DeBrow here, right? Because, you know, but we got to get one of those guys from last year in Ray Davis. And I think he's a really good handcuff if you draft James Cook.

Yeah, 6.6 rushing attempts per game last season. I think the upside case is certainly there. And Bogman made it in great fashion, D, Bro. But the other side of that, if Cook is somehow all the way back in here. Ty Johnson's still sniffing around, vulturing tight touchdowns and receiving work. Then you got a roster clogger and Ray Davis. Yeah, I mean, I think his his ADP and things are appropriate for me is the upside they're. I mean, dude, just look back to last year. In the two games we got Ray Davis playing over 50% of the snaps. He averaged 20 touches on 108.5 total yards. He was the RB 14. Sign me up. Both of those games and weekly scoring. So when he's on the field, they're giving him the ball, which I hate. You know what I mean?

it's like, okay, Ray Davis is out there. He's getting a handoff. The whole defense knows it, too, though. Like, you know, break him up a little bit. Get him out there on some passing downs or something. Break him up, I feel like. Yeah, I mean, the other thing is Buffalo could easily turn this into a Thunder and Lightning kind of committee. And Davis has standalone value from day one. True. True. Debrough, you've got our first quarterback on the league winning men. Who's next for you, man? It's got to be J.J. McCarthy, dude. Like, I'm getting all. high pitched here because I don't understand. I keep talking about all these rankings that make no sense to me.

We all lived in a world last year where Sam Darnold was a top 10 quarterback in fantasy, right? We all experienced that together. It was real. It was real. It happened. You could pinch yourself a million times and it still happened. QB9 and fantasy points per game.

And yet we're ranking J.J. McCarthy as a low-end QB2 and I cannot make any sense out of that because it's not just Sam Darnold. You've seen Josh Dobbs. You've seen Nick Mullins. You've seen all kinds of parts or pieces produce as QB1s or high-end QB-1s depending on the player and their skill set in this offense. And people don't think that J.J. McCarthy is going to do that. And I feel like all they're doing is just cementing and bias of old bad draft prospect takes for a guy that they hated coming out.

They'd love to crap on every part of the process. Now he's. He's the starting quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings. Sorry Aaron Rogers. They never wanted you. And he's going to be a QB1. He's already a QB1 in my rankings. I'm saying it with my chest. I believe in the talent.

I believe in the situation. I believe in KOC. And I'm old enough to remember when J.J. McCarthy in his final year in college was top 12 in passing grade, adjusted completion rate yards per 10th. I'm not done there yet. Adjusted completion rate on deep passing. And also adjusted completion rate when pressured. He offers all.

Off script ability and some rushing upside. Both of those things Sam Darnold has never had. J.J. McCarthy is a QB1 in fantasy in 2025 and he has tons of upside for more. I love it, man. I'm with you on this call because if there's one thing I can bet on with J.J. McCarthy, it's his accuracy. Number one in the Big Ten and completion percentage in 2023. Number one in passing efficiency rating as well.

And like also, Bogman, this guy never had great weapons. He had Colson Loveland coming on in tight end. And he had Roman Wilson. That's it. Roman Wilson. That's going to be the savior of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Oh, God. Everybody knows that.

Speaking of an insane taste. Look, you're absolutely right. I am, uh, this, I'm madder at this name, D, bro, than I am your name.

I knew you were going to be salty about it. I asked you about one, but I would, I matter at this name than I am your next one, which is surprising. And you guys will hear in a second why. But yeah, man,

that he has. Like, even Aaron Jones isn't dead quite yet, but it's Justin Jefferson, it's Jordan Addison, who'd be a number one on so many of the teams. C.J. Hawkinson would be a much bigger target share guy

if he was not with Jefferson and Addison on other teams. They get Darsaw back on the offensive line. The defense made improvements as well. Like, just this whole team is really good. This is built around him. I have him at QB17.

He just don't have to take him there, right? He's a low end QB2 on a, almost every board. So he is a smoking hot deal right now. Yeah, a couple of months ago, I throw out a plus 550 NFC North ticket for the Minnesota Vikings on the BP NFL podcast. So feeling good about that one now. Absolutely. J.J. McCarthy, plus 10,000 for NFL MVP. I'm just going to throw that out there. Not saying anything else. Just throwing that out there. All right, Boggs, you have one final league winner to target for us today. And you're digging deep. And I mean deep all the way down to the 15.

round for this one, who you got? It's not that deep. It's Anthony Richardson. You know, look, he was God-awful last year. I'm not sitting here telling you that you have to have faith in Anthony Richardson. But if he could just be a little better at throwing the ball, the rushing upside is so insane. It still exists. The arm strength is still crazy, right? The talent is still within Anthony Richardson.

It's just putting it all together. And we talked about it when I talked about JT. This is how I bookend my appearance here, right? Is this Colts offense has the potential to be one of the better offenses in the NFL with JT, with Pittman, with Warren, with Downs, with Pierce, with Mitchell. The O line is the weakness. If the O line can hold up and they can have someone throw the forward pass, like just a little bit, this offense could be insane.

and Anthony Richardson at the helm, the offense is created for him. That's why they brought in players that have similar skill sets to him. And Daniel Jones, who runs the ball, and Riley Leonard, the rookie they drafted out of Notre Dame. They brought in similar skill set players because they built this entire offense around Anthony Richardson.

It's a playbook made for him. The weapons are crazy around him. It's the biggest ifs and butts, and he was such a failure, so spectacularly. last season that no one has faith anymore. Even a lot of people that were screaming for Richardson to have this insane value last year. Most of us were, right? So it's still in there.

It's just we have to pull it out. Maybe it never comes out, right? That is within the realm of possibility. But if this works, we are talking insane league winners, aren't we? Yeah. Anthony Richardson can be that upside. It's still in there that we saw last year. So yes, he failed miserably and right on his face.

And maybe he doesn't get another crack at it. That is within the possibility as well. But if this works, if it clicks, if Richardson starts 17 games, he's a QB1. I don't think that there's really a huge argument. I mean, I was like the poster child for like, hi, I'm the problem. It's me with Anthony Richardson last season.

I was all in on this guy. And like, I think I still was coming into this season, D, bro, until we got the recent reports that he's revisiting Dr. Neil Eletra. the Achilles factory out in L.A. who did that initial shoulder procedure with him. And like, I'm just good on it now. Like, I'll just, I'll just take a handcuff running back or, you know, J.J. McCarthy in this round. Like, I'm just good on AR now.

I'm out. I would rather have McCarthy as well. I mean, let's say that for sure. But A. Rich, A. Rich is there. If he's healthy and he can throw, he is, the talent is still in there. I think Bogman hit this on all points, man. I'll just echo that if Anthony Richardson is the starter for the Colts for the entirety of the season, yes, he's a QB1. I mean, the rushing alone puts him in QB1 status, even if he still is a future passer.

I do worry that like the shoulder getting dinged up, putting him behind the eight ball in the competition with Daniel Jones, that maybe that creates a situation where he just can't overcome. But there's still a path. Like the thing that the reason that I keep the light on for Anthony Richardson is because at the end of the day, Chris Ballard and Shane Steichen want to keep their jobs. Yeah. Is there any way shape, former fashion with any runout outside of them going to the freaking AFC championship game? Is there any runout with Daniel Jones starting for this team? This season, they can win 10, 12 games. Is there any runout that this, that the.

the Colts franchise allows this GM and head coach to draft another quarterback. I don't think so. Not with new ownership too. Yeah. Like, like for their jobs to be not safe, but for them to have jobs in Indy past this season. Yeah, that's good point. I think A rich has to win this job. Now, can he or will he? We shall see. But they also have a vested interest for this kid to pan out. Yeah, I think the Ursa A. Children will have a little bit of a quicker leash than maybe Jim Mersey, the late great man did himself. So, D-Bro, round us out here with your third and final league winner from round 9 plus. And I had to do a double take to make sure that this wasn't somehow like a fourth Bogman selection that got crammed in here.

Look, I will caveat this. I did ask Bogman a few different times if he was okay with me taking this name because I did get to the sheet and everything before. him. This is Bogman approved. I want to throw that out there. It's a flag. I don't, Cam Scadaboo right now in ECR is RB 41. And I'm not telling people that Tyron Tracy wasn't impressive. Then he wasn't good for us in fantasy in 2024. He fumbled away the opportunity, man. And I think that with the giant selecting Cam Scadaboo, the player, the archetype that he is, they know what they're getting. They're getting volume. They're getting

tackle-breaking ability. They're getting dependability out of him. And for all the things that Tyrone Tracy did in his rookie season, a lot of those things that I just outlined in the archetype of player that he didn't do, man. He had the 23rd most touches amongst running backs, but yet he was tied for the third most fumbles. That's a problem. Ryan Dayball, if he had any hair, would have pulled it all out every single time he put the ball in the freaking ground, man. I think this is not if, but when the Cam Scataboo takes over this backfield. And if he takes over the backfield, I mean, come on, guys. They gave all the work to Freakin Devin Singletary to begin the year last year. Then they gave all the work to Tyrone Tracy until he fumbled it away. Then he got the job back. And then he got all the work

again. So how do we not think that this team wants one running back to get all the work? Now they have the guy that they can feed all the work to that's not going to sit there and put the ball on the ground and also as a plus in the passing game final collegiate season top 10 in receiving grade and yards poor outrun cam scataboo gets this job our ranking him as an rb three rb four is going to look blasphemous he's going to be a weekly top 20 running back i'm with you on this one man i mean bogman and i kind of covered pretty quick you know pretty closely the the final season of scadaboo's career actually a great pass blocker great pass catcher as you alluded to and like i'm with you i'm not worried about Tyrone Tracy at all.

Efficiency fell off a cliff late last season, fumbled away those games. And like, I think that someone like Scataboo is the perfect fit for this outside zone gap duo approach that Brian Dable has become infamous for. So I think the only thing that I can play devil's advocate with, Boggs,

and that is my job to play that role here, will a three-headed backfield with Devin Singles Terry still in the mix, still owed a bunch of money, make it a slow first season four, the former Arizona State Sun Devil. I think is within the realm of possibility, right? Like, Singletary has ruined some early careers. James Cook.

James Cook. Pierce? Yeah, Damien Pierce is now nothing thanks to Devin. Well, really thanks to Damien Pierce. But he didn't have enough juice to sit here and hold off Tracy last year. No, no, he didn't. He didn't. Right.

Yeah. And that's, look, Dibro is a cardinal of the cult of Cam Scataboo. I'm the Pope. All right. So, look, this is. I'm just trying to also play devil's advocate with Seth here. But look, I have this list of stats for Cam Scataboo from last year as well. Second in rush attempts in college.

Second in rushing yards. Eighth in yards per carry. Fifth in rushing touchdown. Second in run grade. Third in yards after contact. Eighth in yards after contact per carry. Fourth in explosive runs. Wow.

Seventh in breakaway percentage. Second in first down runs. Eighth in running back receptions. Third in running back receiving yards. First in running back yards after catch. Ninth in running back yards after catch per reception. Cam Scataboo is a three-down workhorse back that will wear out an opposing defense.

He's not massive like Derek Henry, but he can carry the rock. Is the window going to be short in his career? Probably, right? Who cares? Let's take this three, four-year burst of Cam Scadaboo and let him roll with it. I think he gets going pretty early,

in the season. I think Tyrone Tracy is a third down back. I think Cam Scataboo is your guy. And I do think Singletary is a little bit too old now. And it's pushed back down to the bench. So yes, of course, I'm going to approve Cam Scadaboo being on this list. And he would have been on here. If D. Bro, had not taken him. But for all the draft capital, zealots as well, Cam Scadabu got better draft capital than freaking Tyrone Tracey. So you can't even get on that either. Well, it is Scott Bogman approved and also Scott Bogman approved. is the fancy pros draft cheat sheet creator.

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