The Herd with Colin Cowherd - FantasyPros - Fantasy Football Podcast - Top Fantasy Football Draft Picks | Targets for EVERY ROUND (Ep. 1642)
Episode Date: August 10, 2025Max out every selection! Join Chris Welsh, Derek Brown and guest Mason Dodd (@MasonDoddFFN) of Flock Fantasy for their top 2025 fantasy football draft picks for every round! Why is Las Vegas Raiders R...B Ashton Jeanty's pass-catching upside not being discussed more? Will Philadelphia Eagles QB Jalen Hurts prove he's still a top-flight option at the position? Plus, does Houston Texans WR Jayden Higgins jumpstart his career as early as Week 1? The Pros reveal their favorite picks just before draft season hits its peak. Timestamps: (May be off due to ads) Intro - 0:00:00FantasyPros Draft Kit - 0:03:37CeeDee Lamb (WR - DAL) - 0:04 :14Ashton Jeanty (RB - LV) - 0:06:18De’Von Achane (RB - MIA) - 0:10:04Drake London (WR - ATL) - 0:12:46Chase Brown (RB - CIN) - 0:15:47Trey McBride (TE - ARI) - 0:17:50DraftKings Best Ball - 0:21:03Jalen Hurts (QB - PHI) - 0:22:45Kenneth Walker III (RB - SEA) - 0:25:03Xavier Worthy (WR - KC) - 0:27:51RJ Harvey (RB - DEN) - 0:30:51TreVeyon Henderson (RB - NE) - 0:03:36Tetairoa McMillan (WR - CAR) - 0:34:59Jordan Addison (WR - MIN) - 0:37:00Calvin Ridley (WR - TEN) - 0:37:57Ricky Pearsall (WR - SF) - 0:38:54Jakobi Meyers (WR - LV) - 0:39:39Josh Downs (WR - IND) - 0:41:12Dak Prescott (QB - DAL) - 0:42:24J.K. Dobbins (RB - DEN) - 0:44:00Jayden Higgins (WR - HOU) - 0:44:23FantasyPros Draft Assistant - 0:45:24Tyler Warren (TE - IND) - 0:46:59J.J. McCarthy (QB - MIN) - 0:47:36Trey Benson (RB - ARI) - 0:48:16Tre Harris (WR - LAC) - 0:48:39Jerome Ford (RB - CLE) - 0:49:21Romeo Doubs (WR - GB) - 0:50:27Braelon Allen (RB - NYJ) - 0:51:38Brashard Smith (RB - KC) - 0:52:04Miles Sanders (RB - DAL) - 0:53:57Jarquez Hunter (RB - LAR) - 0:54:14Autographed A.J. Brown Philadelphia Eagles Jersey Giveaway - 0:55:14Players We’re Leaving Every Draft With - 0:56:06Outo - 0:58:04 Helpful Links: 👑 DraftKings Best Ball – Join in on the chance to win your share of $15M in prizes through DraftKings Best Ball Contest! No weekly roster management, set and forget lineups, season-long excitement and a chance at a cut of $15M in prizes! Entry Fee is only $20 and you get a bonus ticket when you sign up at: Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. In New York, call 8778-HOPENY or text HOPENY at 467369. In Connecticut, help is available for problem gambling. Call 888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org. Eighteen plus in most eligible states, but age varies by jurisdiction. Eligibility restrictions apply. Void where prohibited. One per customer. Enter the Best Ball $15M headliner contest by 9/4/25 to get one bonus entry. Twenty dollar entry fee required. Reward expires in thirty days. See terms at draftkings.com/nfl-best-ball. Sponsored by DK. Draft Assistant - Get live support during your fantasy football draft with the Draft Assistant. Connect the Draft Assistant to your draft and get real-time suggestions based on expert rankings, team needs, and positional scarcity. Get the most value out of every pick in your fantasy football draft with the Draft Assistant. Learn more at fantasypros.com/assistant or download our Fantasy Football Draft Wizard app on Google Play or App Store. Dynasty Rookie Draft Simulator – Our Dynasty Rookie Draft Simulator lets you complete a mock in minutes with no waiting between picks! Customize your league settings to match your league’s exact format. Premium subscribers can test trade scenarios by mocking with their traded draft picks. Prepare for rookie drafts AND dynasty startup drafts in one place! Use the Dynasty Rookie Draft Simulator to dominate your rookie draft today at fantasypros.com/simulator! Discord – Join our FantasyPros Discord Community! Chat with other fans and get access to exclusive AMAs that wind up on our podcast feed. Come get your questions answered and BE ON THE SHOW at fantasypros.com/chat Leave a Review – If you enjoy our show and find our insight to be valuable, we’d love to hear from you! Your reviews fuel our passion and help us tailor content specifically for YOU. Head to Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever else you get your podcasts and leave an honest review. Let’s make this show the ultimate destination for fantasy football enthusiasts like us. Thank you for watching and for showing your support – https://fantasypros.com/review/ BettingPros Podcast – For advice on the best picks and props across both the NFL and college football each and every week, check out the BettingPros Podcast at bettingpros.com/podcast, our BettingPros YouTube channel at youtube.com/bettingpros, or wherever you listen to podcasts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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I'm Chris Welsh, and today we are talking about a player to target in every single round.
That's right. We are going through the draft. It's not a mock draft. It's going to be the
favorite picks with two of my favorite people. We got Derek Brown, the king of bros in the house,
and Mason Dodd from Block Fantasy. We are going to be hitting tons of players, and we are even going
to figure out who's the one player that both of these fine gentlemen have to leave their draft
with. That is what we got covered. But Mason, what's the deal with upstaging us here? You look so
professionally. Good. Good Lord here. We're pretty. I've been planning on this for a month.
I mean, as you all can tell, I've been growing the beer to pinch up to D-Bro. So if you all
have given me one extra week, I think I could have surpassed him. You would have surpassed me easy.
I mean, if you guys had to flock over, no pun intended, from the podcast to the video for
the Hot Ones episode to see, you're going to have to see just all dolled up. Mason's very dolled up
here, so it's a good look. We're going to be covering all of these bad boys in every draft
target every player to pick. DeBrow, how did you come about, like, how tough was this for you
to identify one player per round? We have some parameters. You know, we're using ECR. You kind of
have to pretend when we do stuff like this where you are in a draft. You know, you have to kind of pick
a spot. We do articles on this as well on Fantasy Pros. Like I did it for the perfect draft scenario.
Like, so what was your kind of process in picking where you are in a draft that's going to dictate how you're leaving as far as your target for every round?
Some of this came down to like guys in these rounds that I think can be differentiators or basically the staples that determine some leagues.
Other parts, man, this was hard in certain parts of this.
Like we get to round five and round six.
Like there were so many players where I'm like, I want to pick like two or three players from round five.
But again, with the parameters of this, so some of this comes down to whether it's league winning upside, players that can really define this fantasy season, as well as as we're going through this, kind of, I went to the approach of some of these picks, and I'll highlight this at certain points, how you would like, if I would walk away, like this was the perfect draft that I could conduct throughout the year and building a full roster and stuff.
So a lot of different ways, and we'll kind of get through all of this as we go through.
of different ways to look at this and how we're pulling out certain players.
Mason, is there a spot in any part of, you know, so if you're, if you're picking like a KDS
type of thing and you're picking where you are, is there a good spot in a round that you think
perfectly, uh, enables you to cherry pick some of these players. So like, here's an example.
Obviously, if you were to say Jamar Chase is the guy I have to leave every round with,
you'd have to be, be like, I have the number one overall pick. But, you know, let's say five or
six kind of gives you a little bit of wiggle room where you can start manifesting the draft
exactly how you want it. Is there like a really nice spot in this year in the rounds that you
want to target? So this is something you really have to think about. Like next week I actually have
the way that we are determining the draft order for the flock league. And I'm actually going to
try to get like 11th or 12. Because I think if you're looking at the tier of players at the very top
of the draft board, they're like 14 or 15 guys in my mind that you can make an argument for being
round one picks. So if you can like put yourself in like 10, 11 or 12 and you can walk away
with two of those, in my opinion, round one profiles, it's just like hard to beat a team if you
have Malik neighbors, Nico Collins in the first two rounds, you know? Exactly. Well, let's jump
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Let's jump into this bad boy and let's start with our round by round targets.
We are going to go to round one.
Mason, why don't you start us off here?
who is your perfect target in round one?
I'm going to go ahead and take CD Lamb.
So the way that I priced like what player goes in round one,
round two, round three is on my side,
I have a consensus ADP list where we take the average ADP
from Yahoo, ESPN, and Sleeper drafts.
And they actually sees CD Lamb going behind Justin Jefferson
in pick six in a lot of these drafts.
And if you actually look at the points per game that we've had
from the top three wide receivers over the past two seasons,
with CDLAM, Jamar, Chase, and Justin Jefferson,
I went ahead and I looked at all the games in which Dak Prescott played,
all the games in which Joe Burrow played.
And then obviously we have no games with McCarthy.
But if we look at all the games with Dak Prescott for CD-Lam,
he's actually averaged 22.1 points per game over the past two years.
Chase with Burroughs average 22.0.
And Justin Jefferson's been at 19.2.
And now that you have the Justin Jefferson potential hamstring question mark,
and while McCarthy has a lot of upside,
but we can't be 100% certain that he is the guy,
I think C.D. Lam is in a really good spot to just,
potentially be the wide receiver one overall that you can get a pick six. Yeah, and there's a lot of
argument about like what DAC did in 2003 as far as a fantasy quarterback, what he does for CD Lamb. And
we talked about this in a previous episode as well of like when you start to break into tears,
like is there an argument that Jamar Chase doesn't belong with anybody because he is his own?
Or can you really look and see the scenarios where not only at Justin Jefferson, but a CD Lamb can be number one?
Just a quick reaction on CD Lamb for you, D. Bro. I mean, I,
I love the pick of lamb. And the thing that I want to highlight for both of our picks here,
you don't need that top three picks. So like when I was approaching this, I didn't want to pick a
player to your point, Welsh, where you needed a top two or three pick, like to get these guys. So like,
I wanted to highlight somebody that I'm going to target aggressively and that has, especially in
round one, has RB1, wide receiver one type of upside where they can be the number one at their
position this year. And you picked a really interesting name. And I'm actually surprised you
went with a running back that we're going to talk about. But you want to talk about upside.
He's got a lot of it. There's just some questions on where is it going to end up being?
So your target in round one is who at running back?
Sash and Gentie, man. And I got a player that right now, if you're looking at ADP on
Fantasyprose.com right now, he's 11th overall, depending on the site that you're drafting on,
anywhere from 8th to 12th. So if you're drafting at the back end, and I love how Mason brought up,
I want to be drafting at the turn this year for the exact three.
reasons that Mason brought up here, but Genti's in that four to five pack of players that have a
first round type of profile, but sometimes you can get him in round two or at the back end of
round one. And for Genti, I think he can have a rookie season very akin or close to what
Saquan Barkley did in his rookie season. And everybody says, oh, the Raiders, it's the Raiders.
And, you know, we've heard like earlier in the offseason about, oh, Rahim Mosard's going to be
involved. Dude, I don't believe any part of that. You don't draft Ash and Genti were
he went and you don't put him in this offense to sit here and incorporate a lot of other running
backs. He's going to be their bell cow running back. And I think we could talk about tackle breaking,
talent, all those parts with Gentie. But specifically what I think kind of gets lost in the entire
conversation is his passing game upside. Like, yes, I like Jacoby Myers. A little foreshadowing.
Could be talking about him later. I like Brock Bowers. But if either one of those guys goes
down, they miss any time. Like, this is a very consolidated passing offense. The,
offensive line is really good, if not like at bare minimum, going to be league average.
So I'm not worried about the blocking up front.
But the point that I'll love to about Genty here is that his past game utility is not
getting talked about enough to where he could be a guy that catches 80 balls this year and
nobody should be surprised as well as having to where, you know, we're splitting hair
between A-chan and other players.
Gentie could roll up the freaking volume.
Like this is a guy that they're probably not worried about giving 20 carries.
to every single week. He could have a Christian McCaffrey type of workload for the Raiders. And then we're
just talking about touchdowns. So like if he is their main touchdown guy when they get inside the
five or the 10 and this offense outperforms expectation, Genty has the receiving upside and the
volume upside to be a top three back in his rookie season. One of the things that does stand out is
he is definitely a what could be versus what has been and what has been consistently.
He just moved down in Fantasy Pro's ECR to 13, actually.
He just got both, like probably just happened.
And it looks like McCaffrey is one that moved up.
So I kind of think there's a very interesting dynamic mason between Christian McCaffrey and Ashton Genty because there is World's Your Oyster with Genty.
We know who McCaffrey can be, but there's a massive injury concern in there.
If you had to pick between the two, is it Gentie or McCaffrey for you?
I love Gentie.
I actually just got them in round two of a Yahoo mock draft that did on my channel.
but I still would go McCaffrey over Ashton Ginty personally.
I 100% agree with everything that Debrose said.
Like if you look at Ginty,
he led college football and receiving two years ago at the running back position.
I haven't heard anybody talk about that.
Like it's wild.
For me, the reason I would prefer McCaffrey,
though, is just the offensive environment.
I think sports books have the Niners projected out to be a top five
scoring offense this year.
It's schedule's too good.
Whereas the Raiders, the thing they have projected to be the sixth low scoring offense.
So I, 100% I think that Jentee is a phenomenal pick of the one,
turn based off volume, but I would probably go McCaffrey if I had to choose between the two.
Yep. Me too.
Christian McCaffrey.
Me too there.
Let's make a shocker here.
49ers Homer says what?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it says Christian McCaffrey.
Let's move to round two.
We're going to round two here for the targets.
Mason, we're going to come back to you.
We're not going to like snake it or anything.
Mason, he's our esteemed guest.
So he gets to go first every time, D-Bro.
So Mason, your target in round two is who?
Right back to like targeting play.
players of the one two turn. You want to lay pick. You have to have an early second to get Devon Achan.
But if you can get it, Devon Achan last year in games that Tua played, average 22.6 points per game.
He was number one in the NFL among all running backs with 6.64 targets per game. And number one in the NFL is all running backs with 48 receiving yards per game in the games that Tua played in.
So if you're in a full PBR format, I think you can make a strong argument that Y fan should be going in the
middle to the end of round one. And right now, if you're looking at Yahoo drafts, he goes at
pick 16, sleeper drafts, he goes at pick 16. And then ESPN, he's going to pick 12 or 13. So I think
it's a round two pick that should be a round one pick most years. I'm pretty hardcore about like,
I really would love to get some combo in the second round. And McCaffrey's moving out of that,
but it's like McCaffrey, A Chan, Gentie, like even Derek Henry, just even though he's not like
the PPR thing, but just the massive volume. It's like, give me one of those guys in the second round to
have paired with a great wide receiver as a perfect scenario for myself. But Mr. Derek Brown,
what do you think about A-chan real quick? Quick thoughts on H.N. is a second round target. Obviously,
with Johnny Smith out of there, we're kind of speculating on where all those other targets are
going to go, maybe some to Waddle. I think we all want to pretend it's all going to go to A. Chan,
regardless of what Tyree Kill tells us in the goal line or anything. A. Chan, we want him to get the
ball all the time. But what say you, Derek Brown? I love everything Mason laid out here. I
emphatically agree with him. He's my 12th overall player. I want to stay ahead of consensus on A. Chan. I think
he's worth a first round pick. Or like if you if you could start a running back or wide receiver,
A Chan is a great target at the beginning of the second. And the thing from Achan is we've seen
the mishmash of two very different seasons where he did it on extreme efficiency in his rookie year.
Last year got the past game. What if we get the season this year where he meshes those two together?
we get the high end efficiency and we get the past game upside.
Like that's that's the type of player that could put up a Jamir Gibbsian, Christian McCaffrey,
Genty, that type of season where he's a league defining player.
That's funny you say that too because like it does feel like he's just a notch away from
being like everything we're kind of projecting Jemir Gibbs to be.
You know, he's just a player too.
I think the offense is what makes us less comfortable about it, especially with what they
were doing with it last year.
But full PPR moves even further.
Half PPR, HN is still a great target.
D-Bro, I am not shocked by this one.
This guy has some pretty wide variance on where he goes as far as the wide receiver,
but there's a little crew here.
There's a little pocket of fantasy pros that feels that maybe Drake London could be the number one wide receiver in fantasy,
and that is your target in the second round.
And that's exactly what I think people need to be going for.
Again, harping on this, like Mason and I have talked about this multiple times,
but taking guys in round two that could have honestly have round one type of profiles and could lead their position,
I mean, it's wheels up, man.
Like, I went back and forth and I hit you up this morning about it.
Like, I actually picked Brian Thomas Jr.
Just shout out, like, originally for this because it's so tough for me.
But I think looking at both of these guys, Drake London is the guy that I go with here.
It's the fact that he is going to be the unquestioned number one in this passing attack.
What we saw last year, the splits between cousins and pinnicks going from a 25% target share, basically, to a 39% target share.
I don't think that holds up the entire season.
But now Darno Moody being best.
banged up. Like, Drake London's probably going to be sniffing a 30 to 35% target share every single
week of Mooney Misses' time, much less he's going to be around that 30% mark this year just
regardless. Like, this is a player that could lead the NFL in targets. And if that happens,
nobody should be surprised because he was third in targets last year. So 157, can he get up into that
170, 180 range. It definitively can happen. And the one part of his game that we haven't seen a ton of
because of bad quarterback play, even last year with Kirk Cousins, the downfield usage with Michael
Pennix, that is going to give Drake London the ability for more sealing weeks than we saw last year.
And you combine all of that with the red zone utility. Drake London could lead the NFL on targets.
And if he spikes 12 to 15 touchdowns this year, which is definitively possible with how consolidated
this offense, like we know the ball was going to London and it's going to Bejan and it's going to
London could be the wide receiver one overall this year.
He's also in the top 25 overall players.
He is tied for the highest differential between his ECR, his expert consensus rank, and his ADP.
So he's going four spots lower than where he's being ranked at.
Mason, are you a Drake London truther?
Yeah, what's actually really interesting is on our site, we have like a range of outcomes tool where you can go back to 2008 and look at the most comparable seasons at that certain age.
Drake London's age 23 year.
The best comps are Jamar Chase in
2023, Julio Jones in 2012,
Amon Ross St. Brown,
2022, Michael Thomas in 2016,
Deshawn Jackson, 2009, Jarvis Landry, 2015,
A.J. Brown in 2020,
Brandon Cooks in 2016,
and Hakeem Nix in 2011.
And every single one of these guys,
other than Nicks,
completely smashed their age 24 season,
where Jamar Chase averaged 23.7,1 points per game.
So it is in the range of outcomes.
like Debrose saying, for London to have that top tier, top three wide receiver finish this
season.
All right.
It's time to go to round three.
We are going to have a running back and a tight end represented here.
So Mason, kick us off with your round three target.
Hopefully he stays in round three.
Hopefully he doesn't creep up to round two.
But I had to call out Chase Brown here.
Chase Brown from weeks 9 through 17 average 20.6 fantasy points per game when he was starting
running back for the Bengals.
He have 86% of the Bengals snaps, which was 30.
in the NFL, five and a half targets per game, which is third in the NFL, 37 and a half
receiving yards per game, which was third in the NFL during that time, third of the NFL in total
yards per game during that stretch. And still on his rookie contract, Zach Moss released. So the only
competition is going to be Taj Brooks should be an offensive projects out to be one of the top
scoring units in the league this year. And we're already getting reports that Chase Brown's actually
going to get more involved as a receiver this season. Yeah, the only thing working against you, like you said,
might be that he's creeping up.
On ECR ranks, he's actually 24.
So that's like the last pick in the second round versus ADP's the same thing.
But there are plenty of scenarios and drafts that I have played in where he does get into the third round.
So this is a nice perfect scenario.
The only problem, you hype him up too much.
He might be going a little bit too higher, Mason.
And then you're going to have another third round pick.
Looking at his ADP across platforms, ESPN, it's 32, sleeper, it's 29, Yahoo, it's 24.
It was actually funny is the average expert rank on our site.
has Chase Brown at like 17, like way, way higher than the two three turn.
That's a big, that's an absolutely big difference.
DeBrow, any quick thoughts on Chase Brown as a third round target?
What a volume play, man.
I mean, if he reprises and again, going back to the past game utility, so many of these
guys, like we're seeing less and less running back targets every single year.
So the guys that have the high end upside in the passing games, I mean, this is what gives
you ceiling and floor every single week where Chase Brown might go go out and run for 40 yards.
But if he's catching five balls and getting 30 through the air and he scores, it doesn't
freaking matter.
So you want to see that past game receiving utility and Chase Brown has it in this offense.
Someone had to do this.
There's a lot of conversation around tight ends.
Tight ends are being put higher.
We're seeing instances where people want to look at Brock Bowers in the first round.
We're just, we're in our tight in era, everybody.
And there are three tight ends.
I think that a lot of people are looking at.
I think we're pushing the envelope a tiny bit here.
But I like that we are having this conversation because it's very prevalent.
And Debrough, you are making a commitment to a third round tight-in target.
So let's hear which one of them it is.
Trey McBride could be one of those guys, again, talking about drafting players early that could
define leagues.
If Trey McBride, if the touchdown regression all hits this year with the volume that he is
likely to see and the talent that he has, he could be a guy that, yes, we flip over the cards
and we're sitting there a week 17 or after fantasy championships and people are saying,
dude why didn't I take Tray McBride in the first round? Like why didn't I do it? And I know like in this fictitious
world, yes, like Bowers probably has to disappoint a little bit and George Kittle has to disappoint a little bit
because you need that differentiation. But dude, Tray McBride could do it. I mean, last year he was top three
in everything you pull up. First and target here. Second and receiving yards per game.
30 yards per route run. First and first downs per route run. So we know the guy is elite.
He did score already freaking touchdowns last year.
Like 15.6 PPR points per game made him the tight end two.
Expected fantasy points per game.
He was over 19 per game.
So just with the volume, and I don't think the Cardinals are going to run much different
than what they did last year.
It's why I'm not high on Marvin Harrison Jr.
He's not making this list for me because I think Tram McBride is going to be
their unquestioned wide receiver one in this offense.
And if the touchdowns all hit, and we said this about, again, George Kittle,
everybody talked about oh he can't score touchdowns until he did so if trade big bride scores the touchdowns this
year he could be the guy where you're looking at cross positionally 19 fantasy points per game
is putting you in that rarefied error where comparatively he's scoring close to being a top five wide
receiver a top five running back on a weekly basis and if that happens yes at a onesie position
that's putting you over the top you kind of have to make the the call that it's like second third or
fourth round. Second for Bowers, third for McBride, fourth for Kittle. Mason, you do not make that
dictation here. But are there scenarios where a tight end becomes a must target per round? Or are you
playing in a different pool of tight ends? I am 100% in agreement with this. I think Trey McBride
outscores every wide receiver going in round three. Oh, I love that take so much. Now take some hot sauce.
Now take the ghost pepper, please, Mason. No, I know. I'm just going to love it. If I go over and look at the range of
outcomes tool and you want to hear the five closest comps to trade mcbride at 25 years old since
2008 hit me baby hit me jimmy graham 2011 rob gruncowski 2014 jaden reid 25th george kittle
2018 then verdun davis 2009 like this dude has all the volume in the world if you had that
kind of target share at wide receiver in round three everybody would be finding to draft that player
and you get it at tight end love it d bro making me feel some things mason i'm loving it man
you guys are both making the people happy.
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Gentlemen, we are moving to round four.
And quarterbacks have entered the chat.
So Mason, kick us off with your quarterback pick that you say you have to have in round four.
So if we look over the past four years when Jalen Hertz, Alan and Lamar have all been starting quarterbacks,
Jalen Hertz has averaged 22 points per game.
Lamar's at 21.7.
Josh Allen's at 23.4, but I'm assuming that you can't get Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson in the fourth round,
or you can consistently get Jalen Hertz in the middle to possibly the end of the fourth round in drafts at points.
So I think Jalen Hertz for four-point passing touchdown formats is a lot closer to Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson than he is the quarterbacks that are going to be going in round five and round six.
So if you wanted to get an elite quarterback, which I think would be a great thing to do in a league if you only have one flex spot, round four is a very reasonable price.
And it's a pretty amazing too
With just kind of the lack of efficiency
As far as the passing game of what that team does
And how he scores
So there is like further dreaming
Like what if they open it up a little bit more
And we know the tush push exists
And we'll always be out there
Is Jalen Hertz a target for you though?
Dibrow or maybe the deeper question is like in the top four rounds
Do you want to have one of the like Daniels
Obviously like Lamar fell
Burrow is Jalen hurts the end of that
Like could you see yourself
drafting round four quarterbacks
I can see a definitive
happen and I love that Mason brings up Jalen Hertz here because if you're going to go with the
elite guy, I want the elite guy at the end of that tier and that's Jalen Hertz. And some drafts,
Joe Burrow would go ahead of him. He'll be the QBE 5 and not the QB4 off the board. I've seen
it happen in best balls and early redrafts. And I'm not there. I understand that people want to do
that. But Hertz is fantastic, man. And the thing that I want to highlight here is the Eagles are going
to throw the ball more this year. We can all kind of quibble about how much more.
They were legendarily run heavy last year.
They had times where AJ Brown missed time.
They had times where the offense looked terrible.
They had times where DeVante Smith was banged up.
Dallas Goddard was in and out of the lineup.
He gets his guys healthy this year.
And I know AJ Brown's dealing with a hamstring,
but if he's healthy this season,
Jay and one hurts to have a bounce back.
Like this offense is going to throw more
and that's going to lead hopefully to more passing touchdowns for Jayland Hertz.
And the rushing touchdowns aren't going anywhere.
Tush push or not.
Doesn't matter.
He's going to run for 10 plus.
Well, Debrough, you did not go with the quarterback,
but you are planting a flag on a running back.
So you're round four.
I've already given it away.
It is a running back.
But who is it?
It's one of the greatest reasons why you don't have to draft a running back.
And I'm not saying that you can't in the top three rounds.
It's Kenneth Walker, dude.
When you can get a guy that was an RB1 last year in the fourth round at RB2 price tags,
you do it all day.
And you just say thank you to the rest of the draft room for allowing this to happen.
Kenneth Walker, RB12 and fantasy points per game.
the Seattle's the hawks, and I know he's dealing with a foot issue right now, but it doesn't sound like it's big,
and I'm not worried about it. We're sitting here recording this in the first week of August,
so nobody should be worried about those unless you get more in-depth news about it being worse.
So you need to be following fantasy pros news and stuff and everything with the app and have alerts on right now.
But like with Walker, it gets lost so much that he was an RB1 last year, the past game utility.
Like this dude, amongst 45 qualifying running backs last year, was top six in first downs per route run,
target per round run rate and receiving yards per game.
And the Seattle Seahawks have told us all offseason they're going to run the ball more this year?
He's going to be centric to what they do on offense on numerous levels.
And people can have concerns about the injuries.
That's why you get Kenneth Walker here.
You can have concerns about the offensive line.
That's why you get Kenneth Walker here.
But the dude's going to catch passes.
He's still one of the best per touch running backs and tackle breaking guys in the NFL.
This is like if you could draft Jonathan Taylor of yesteryear or Nick Chubb in his prime,
but they have pass catching upside in the fourth round.
Sign me up all day.
Man, you're hyping up.
You would think we're talking about the next guy here.
Wait until you get all jacked up.
An interesting thing you can do if you're ever looking at the fantasy pros ranks page and you're looking at the overall and ECR and everything is there's a there's like a section on the corner that says ECR versus ADP.
And if you want to just have like a quick understanding of like values, you can go and look and see when you see plus.
So I mentioned that before with Drake London.
So Drake London, you see like a value for rankers loving this player versus how they're being drafted.
The same thing is happening here with Ken Walker.
There's a five.
There's a plus five.
So he's being ranked right at the top of this round, but he's going more mid-round.
So there's a value at least versus like what drafts are giving us to what the overall valuation is.
Mason, do you have any thoughts on Ken Walker here?
Yeah, one point that Debrough made that I really like is the receiving usage kind of went under the radar last year.
Because if you look at the college profiles of Charbonnet versus Kenneth Walker, it's like, oh, Charbonnet was probably going to be the receiving back in the NFL.
But last season, that didn't play out.
Kenneth Walker was the guy that got targeted.
All right.
So we are now jumping to round five.
Round five is in here.
These are some slick names.
I very, very much like this group that we're going to.
to do. So Mason, you're going to kick it off. We're going to jump into wide receiver,
which I think there's some varying degrees of where people sit and it has to do with another
wide receiver who a suspension could be coming, but where people are at on him. So round five,
you've got a wide receiver and who is that player? I'm going to take Xavier worthy.
Now, full transparency, I may or may not have graduated from the University of Texas. So I could be
a little bit biased here. But aren't you obligated to hook him after you say that, by the way?
Hook him orrence. We'll throw him out. He's got the calendar behind him. I mean,
He's got the promos everywhere for Texas.
But I don't know what else we want to see.
This was a wide receiver that goes in round one of the NFL draft.
21 year old rookie season, the final six weeks, he averages 15.6 fantasy points per game,
finishing as the wide receiver 24.
You have a full blown breakout once you get to the actual NFL playoffs.
And the Kansasity chiefs were at an all time low with their passing volume last year.
So I think it's almost impossible to project the chiefs to be as low scoring this year.
as they were last.
I think the passing volume is only going to go in the positive direction.
We can look at the player comparison tool and say, oh, okay,
most wide receivers that in age 21 year like Xavier Worthy did,
aka maybe Jackson Smith and Jigba did improve going into their age 22 season.
So I'm completely fine.
Drafting Xavier Worthy is like my wide receiver three,
possibly ranking was the top 24 name when Rishy Rice is suspended at the beginning of the year.
But obviously, if we were to be surprised and if Rice doesn't get suspended,
Worthy's probably a little less exciting.
I'm one of the higher rankers on worthy right now, too, on our site. I think I have them around like 20. I'm not the highest, but I have them over consensus. I've got him like 22. But that is also because I'm just taking a hard line stance that like Rishie Rice is going to be suspended for a significant amount of time. And even if he's not, I don't know that right now. And that's looming. I was one of the bigger on Rishie Rice. The health I thought was a really solid space we were in. But because of this, I'm flipping.
And I think Worthy's getting an opportunity to really go.
So I'm just taking dramatic stances until I'm told otherwise.
Debrough, where are you at on that same thing?
Are you a little hesitant to be anywhere with Worthy because Rice is looming in the suspension?
Or are you taking any hardline stances?
I'm taking more of the stance on that I think Rice's suspension could be more in the two to three game area.
And if it's more on the low end of that, then I have more worries about Worthy and I'm more in on Rice.
So right now the way I'm approaching it.
Again, we're all just, it's a guessing game with this.
because it could be two games, it could be six games.
I'm playing the other, the contrarian side of this where I think it's two to three games.
And if that's the case, then it's basically a nothing burger for Rice.
So I'm more in on Rice and I'm kind of like moved worthy down.
Yeah.
And if Rice was not getting suspended at all, I had him at like, I think 13 or something.
Like that would be dramatic, dramatically targeting him.
Agreed.
Agreed.
But it's not worth it right now.
Everybody and their mother who knows Debrough knew this name was coming.
It was just what round.
would you say you have to get him? So without further ado, it's RJ Harvey time, everybody,
because it's round five. So let's hear it, Debrough. It's because I like talented backs. And again,
that have massive pass catching upside. At this point of his career, we know J.K. Dobbins is not
going to catch a lot of passes. He didn't do it in college. He had 1.0 yards per route run in the
NFL, 0.7. Like, it's just not part of his game. I always projected somebody in this Denver
offense to siphon off 125, 140 carries away from R.J. Harvey. So the fact that that's Dobbins
and it's not estimate doesn't move the needle at all. We know what Sean Payton is going to do.
Like go back all the way to like freaking like forever. 2010, 2011. They're going to throw the ball
to the running backs. That has happened in New Orleans. It's happened in Denver. They've been top
five in target chair to the running back position in each of the last two years. So enters R.J. Harvey,
who they drafted in the second round.
It's not my fault that people were lower on him as a prospect than everybody else.
Like, that's not my fault.
So I feel like a lot of people are like, oh, but he's an RB2.
Dude, if he is the leadback in the Denver Broncos offense,
and we know Sean Payton is going to feed a top five target share to this backfield,
and Dobbins and the kitchen passes, Estimate has never caught passes.
Julio McLaughlin couldn't keep a role in this backfield last year.
with Sean Payton at all on a consistent basis, who the heck else is catching the freaking
passes for the running backs outside of RJ Harvey? You want to talk about talent, opportunity,
all the different parts of pieces, and he's going to live inside of what is going to be
a top 10 scoring offense this year? Yes, RJ Harvey, fifth round every single time,
auto lock, on pick, every single time. I'll take him in the fourth, but the fact that I can get him
in the fifth round, again, another opportunity to just smile at the rest of the draft room
and say, thank you.
And also, you missed your opportunity where if we had the glove, George Kittles Globe, we go,
why so serious?
And then you just do, because Joker, because the Joker roll.
Everybody is putting Evan Ingram in there, but you could have Harvey into that.
So you are very serious business about RJ Harvey.
Mason, what about you?
This is the first introduction of one of these rookies, especially at the RV spot.
Do you think round five is the right territory to be taking RJ Harvey?
I like RJ Harvey in the situation.
Don't get me wrong.
But the only reason I wouldn't be taking him here in round five is I think my rookie running back in round six is a better value.
All right.
Well, what a perfect transition.
All right.
We got six through ten.
We're going to go a little bit quicker on these because we still got a lot more show.
So we are unfortunately not going to get the pickups on what you guys think about each picture.
You just have to bury it deep inside of you and maybe put it in the comments or something like.
that. So let's go to round six. Perfect transition. Mason's a pro. Let's hear the running back that you would
rather have than RJ Harvey. Everything Debrot just said about RJ Harvey, I think remains true for Trevion
Henderson. I think Ramadre versus Dobbins, about equivalent. I think the offenses are both very good.
I think they're both going to have to target the running back heavily because the receivers in New
England very thin beyond Stefan Diggs. I just personally think Trevon Henderson's the better running back
between the two. And if he goes like a round later, I'm fine.
taking Trevon Henderson. It's not an anti-R.J. Harvey thing. It's more like I just am a love with
Trevion Henderson, the prospect. There's a lot of takes in there, too, of you guys building around
the receiving side of both of these players. So I think that could be the big differentiating factor,
whether it's, you know, Romandre in New England has, you know, his role still on the ground.
If there's a rotation in Denver and then who's the guy that steps up on the receiving side.
It's a very, very interesting argument. And it's kind of fascinating because it's like all those
rookie running backs go around the same time. It's around this five or six, whether it's
Hampton a little bit earlier, and then it's Harvey, and then it's Henderson, and then my guy,
Caleb Johnson, just sitting out there going last, and I'm swooping him up whenever I can.
But you, D-Bro, also have a rookie, so rookies have officially entered the chat now, but you're going
on the wide receiver side.
I am lockstep with you on this player.
I had to get this guy as my wide receiver three in every place that I can, and we are doing it
here in round six.
Dude, this is a guy you could draft as your wide receiver three for your teams, and I'm even
comfortable to get him as your wide receiver two, because I think he is going to.
to be a locked-in wide receiver two.
And I have to give Worm a shout out here because he brought this up.
And I think it's a perfect comparison.
This player is basically in what we were doing last year with Malik neighbors.
But I could tell you that the surrounding cast quarterback play, all those things are better.
And that's Tedro-McMillan.
For what people talked about this being a down wide receiver class.
Dude, like I was never there.
And we're going to talk about it some other rookie wide receivers later.
Tedero-Mondon never deserved any of the shade that he got during the draft.
draft process. He went high in the draft. He goes to Carolina and everybody's like, oh,
snubbing their noses at it. And I'm telling you, this guy is going to be a wide receiver too.
He has upside for even more. Whether you want to talk about talent, we would talk about he can be
the alpha in that wide receiver room. Dave Canales has already come out and talked about.
They are going to feed a ton of ball into Tedro McMillan and push him. And that, that tells me
everything I need to know. He's probably going to get sniff in that 140, 150 target range.
at this spot in a draft that is free money.
And the spot that I think people were talking like are missing the boat on here is his receiving touchdown upside in an offense that quietly because they didn't throw a ton last year or as much and the offense wasn't good for half the season until Bryce Young really hit his stride down the stretch.
This offense was fourth in reds on passing rate, 12th in passing rate inside of the 10 yard line.
They repeat that this year with Teddero and McMillan at the top, he's spiking 10 plus touchdowns.
And that's the difference of being a wide receiver three versus being a wide receiver two or maybe closer to fringe wide receiver one this year.
All right, we're moving to round seven.
And I really like this name, Jordan Addison.
And Mason, that is where you're going.
There's huge offensive upside here.
He can be drafted as a wide receiver three to instances of a wide receiver four.
I've got a higher rank on him.
And I'm going to guess you are as well because he is.
your target for round seven. Yeah, a lot of times you take a player in round seven. You may not even
need to start them week one anyway. I mean, he's going to pick 78 on Yahoo, 71 and sleeper,
79 on ESPN. And if we're looking at Addison, round one in a full draft pick,
bulletinikoff winner, great rookie season, even better year two. From a talent perspective,
what could you possibly want that this guy does not have in comparison of the players that he's
going around? And honestly, again, like you said, if he gets suspended one game, two games,
I don't really care because those first two games, it's not like we have anybody on by.
Shouldn't be really dealing with many injuries.
You probably don't want to stack like Jordan Addison, Brains and I youth and Chris Godwin
all in the same team together.
But as long as you don't take all of them, should be fine.
Debrough in round seven, you are sticking with a wide receiver as well.
Yeah, man, it's Calvin Ridley time.
And it's just it's easy free volume and upside.
Like if Cam Ward is legitimately good, what's to stop Calvin really from being this year's
Terry McCleorn?
There's nothing, man.
Like, so this is bet on offense,
bet on volume, bet on like, there's no other high-end target earners.
Like, they don't have another receiving option on Tennessee's deck chart that probably
sniffs above an 18% target share, even in the best of circumstances this year.
So Calvin Ridley, 120 targets was 18th amongst wide receivers last year.
Dude, you could bump him up into that 140 range and this is how you make up, like,
if you start running back heavy earlier, you go with a tight end premium or you go with a
quarterback early and stuff.
And you're like, okay, now I need a wide receiver three that may be in a lot.
lot of weeks can produce as a wide receiver too, but I'm comfortable in them as my three because
of the volume I'm getting every single week. If Cam Ward's good, Calvin Ridley is going to be very
good too. Let's move into round eight. And oh yes, I'm walking with Mason again. This is another one of my
targets. I wrote this bad boy up. Homer City. But Mason, let's hear which wide receiver you were
targeting in round eight. So again, going back to the Niners projecting out to be close to like a top five
offense this year. Iuke, we have no idea when he's playing.
Joanne Jennings currently banged up. This leaves Ricky Pierce Hall is the only dude in this
offense, goes pick 91 Yahoo, 103 sleeper and pick 100 on ESPN. You got the flashes at the very
end of the year. Obviously, rookie season derailed by the fact that the dude got shot. What do you want from
him, you know, but he still does give you the absolute blowup at the end of his rookie season with
the round one NFL draft capital. So I'm fine. Just continue to hammer wide receiver depth here.
Debrough, your guy here is someone I was just talking with Scott Bogman about that, like, I don't, I got to get higher. You got to get higher. And I think he is the like number one wide receiver that you take when you've taken any theoretical risk. You take a rookie. Maybe you take an Addison like this guy. You draft for she rice.
Yeah, you draft for sure. This guy balances out your team and he's just like a must have. This might be the most must have player of all these round targets. So hit us with this white out. Who is who?
Yeah, if you're embracing risk and upside with some of these guys that can miss time and what have you,
like Jacobi Myers, again, like I know that I'm higher on the Raiders offense than a lot of other people.
I think they're going to be better than people are projecting right now.
And Myers, again, it is free volume, man.
Like, this is where you make up the volume or you insulate your rosters from the risk of earlier rounds where you're shooting on upside and stuff like that.
Myers, at the departure of Devante Adams last year was wide receiver 18 in fantasy points per game.
This dude was commanding almost a 24% target share, and I'm not telling you that he's going to produce as a wide receiver 2 on a weekly basis.
But as a wide receiver 3, as a guy in PPR leagues where you are consistently comfortable plugging him into your wide receiver 3 in your flex spot or him covering one of those starting spots, like if you draft Rishi Rice, this is the player that you pair him with because you know you're going to get the consistent role and production out of Myers.
And when Rice comes back, you're plugging him maybe a top 15 wide receiver into that spot.
So yes, draft all the Jacoby Myers.
I'm in agreement.
Round 9, we got a wide receiver and a quarterback, Mason.
You are building up that wide receiver core.
Who's a wide receiver that you have to have in round 9?
Yeah, this may be a little bit of a cheap call because he goes earlier than this on Yahoo and Sleeper,
but he goes pick 148 on ESPN, which is crazy.
Josh Downs, I don't know what you want.
This is another young wide receiver that is flashed talent is continuing to get better.
And the only thing that I would be hesitant with is if Anthony Richardson is the starting quarterback,
here, Downs probably isn't usable. But if it's Daniel Jones, the passing offense should definitely
be a lot better in Indianapolis, where obviously with Richardson, you're more so going to be
looking at the running game. You know, the one thing I'd throw out, though, is if Richardson does
make some of those strides they're talking about, we know he's just a big, you know, huge arm,
make those big plays. But part of that progression would have to be about more high efficiency
throws, which to me would speak to Josh Downs, would be them forcing him to be more efficient by
throwing down the middle and having a guy like Josh Downs out of the slot. So I don't disagree with what
you're saying that like, yeah, if Anthony Richardson in there, it could make him unusable.
But also if Anthony Richardson is going to be a thing like Bogman has said he's going to be,
then that might be because Josh Downs has that big step up and it's a focal point to make him
more efficient in that offense.
Just as a little aside, and I'm with you on Downs.
Debrough, you are stamping in your quarterback here.
And we've actually kind of already been talking about him.
So let's hear this quarterback in round nine that you need to have.
Yeah, if you're waiting on quarterback, this is the guy that you take the upside shot on
because we've seen it year after year after year, man.
it's Dak Prescott. I mean, we're only one season removed from this guy being the QB4 and
fantasy points per game. He was seventh in yards per attempt. He was eighth in CPOE. Like, and last year
with Dallas, their offense just was broken at the beginning of the season. Like every defense knew
what was coming. It was C.D. Lamb, if I stopped C.D. Lamb, what else she got? But weeks one through
eight, Dallas was still eighth in neutral passing rate. This team is going to be top 10 in passing
attempts. And if anything happens to Michael Parsons, like, are they going to be like this year's
version of like NFC Cincinnati where it's like, dude, they're passing every freaking week.
It's going to be a ton of CD Lamb. It's going to be George Pickens and the winner is
Dak Prescott. And a couple of seasons, like, if he is fully healthy this year, I'm not ruling out
that we see him run. Like, I'm not telling you he's going to run for 500 yards, but if he runs for,
say, 300 plus on the ground, gets a handful of rushing touchdowns that's adding to the floor and
ceiling, but Dak Prescott is the guy you can get at a low end QB1 price tag, some spots,
high end QB2, and he legitimately could revisit and put up top five numbers this year.
Yeah, and I was going to say, like, you're talking, I mean, I guess he has moved up to 12,
but I've seen spots where he hasn't gone in the top 15 quarterback.
Yeah, I've seen it's dropped to like 14, 15 in some drafts.
And if Cidlam and George Pickens are going to live up to the values of where they are as far as
ECR and everything, then it's going to be because Dak Prescott has been a dude.
All right, round 10 running back, Mason.
Who do you got for your round 10 target?
I'm going to go J.K. Dobbins.
I think you have the premium handcuff appeal if RJ Harvey were to get injured.
And I think if you go with the zero RB build, there's a chance that Dobbins is usable at the beginning of the season.
But it's mainly just this Denver Broncos backfield is going to be so valuable that if anything were to occur to RJ Harvey, I think Dobbins crushes.
Debrough, you got a little bit more on the rookie side.
We got a rookie wide receiver.
This is a nice sneaky one.
You could have even maybe snuck this one into our rapid fire round we're going to do here for late rounds, but let's hear it.
I could have, but I want to take this guy a little bit ahead of ADP, depending on where you're looking at ADP, because, guys, I'm all enough to remember last year and we were all in on Nico Collins, Stefan Diggs and Tankdale, and it's just like, oh, who do you want to draft?
And now nobody wants to draft anybody out of the Houston's passing attack outside of Nico Collins.
And I've been pounding the table the entire offseason.
I'm going to continue to do it here on Jaden Higgins.
Consolidated passing attack.
this guy was really, really good throughout the entire pre-draft process.
Final two years of college, 27th, 16th, and yards per route run.
We know the athleticism is there, and he's going to be the starter in two wide receiver
sets opposite Nico Collins.
So, Jaden Higgins, yes, as a guy you're drafting as your wide receiver five on a lot of
different teams, we could be midseason.
He's producing as a borderline two, three for your lineups.
Yeah, this is where you get to where you're taking the shots on talent, upside, and opportunity.
Debrough Mason have been putting some really big decisions on our plates here of like where are they doing as far as where their decisions have gone and how are they going to construct with their favorite targets are.
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Mason also, just to throw out before we get into our rapid round, we were joking.
before and you were being like, oh, I don't have a podcast. And that's because Mason literally lives
on YouTube on the flock fantasy YouTube channel, which incredible following, incredible stuff
you're doing. Why don't you tell people, because you've also cited some of your guys' tools,
why don't you tell us a little bit about flock fantasy if people are not familiar.
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So this is like rounds 11 through 15.
ADPs are kind of out the window a little bit, so you guys have a lot more freedom.
We're going to go rapid-style fire.
So you guys have about 30 seconds to break down your pick.
We're going to go boom, boom, boom.
Rounds 11 through 15.
Let's start, Mason, your round 11 rapid fire target.
Tyler Warren, great collusion production, great draft capital.
and great athleticism, and he's going to play almost 80% of the snaps week one.
This one is chef's kiss to me.
Love the Tyler Warren pick there, especially if you get more efficiency on the Anthony
Richardson side.
Dbro, round 11.
Who do you got?
Waiting on quarterbacks, baby.
It's JJ McCarthy time, a guy that think is going to be a locked-in QB-1.
We're talking about talent.
We're talking about upside.
We're talking about situation.
We know KOC is going to pass the ball a ton.
We just saw Sam Darnold.
Yes, that Sam Darnold produces the QB-9 at fantasy points per game.
You cannot tell me J.J. McCarthy can't equal that or best it in 2025.
As a quick follow-up, is it important for you to get DAC and McCarthy as a pairing?
Do you like, okay, so this is a- ceiling of floor, both those guys. This is how I'm approaching drafts, ma'am.
Double-tapping late quarterback.
Yeah, I want to make sure this was a calculated decision that it's like you want J.J. McCarthy
and you have the floor of a guy like Dak Prescott. I like that a lot. Round 12. A lot of buzz about this guy, Mason, that you're picking for your round 12 target.
Yeah, Trey Benson, I think he's a premium handker back.
Great prospect coming out last year.
Sadly, we didn't get to see him much as rookie year, but he was efficient when he did touch the ball.
And hopefully he does have an expanded role, but you're probably just looking at a handcuff.
But if not if you're talking about James Connor talking about him being an RV1 in that offense.
So there's a lot of buzz there.
Debrough, what do you think?
What do you think for your round 12 target?
Staying in the Trey streets, baby.
It's Trey Harris.
And I will caveat this with if Keenan Allen does sign there, then I'm going to drop him.
He's still worth a late round pickup, but Trey Harris, it's talent, its opportunity, it's upside.
This guy was first and ninth and yards per route run.
If you had to stayed healthy, his final collegiate season, he probably would have gone first round
at the NFL draft.
And quietly, if the Chargers throw more this year, and I'm not telling you they're going to be
top 10, top 12, and passing rate, but more weapons around Justin Herbert, a fully healthy
version of Justin Herbert for the entirety of this season, we could see the bolts really surprise
with a lot of his pass catchers, and Trey Harris is the guy that I want to take from this
offense.
Mason, round three, you and I feel like our rank, we're kind of locked up a little bit here
because you got a lot of the same targets that I'm going with.
And I feel like a lot of people are kind of negative in that Cleveland situation, just
being like, I'll wash my hands of it.
But the guy you picked in round 13 to me, I think is one of those sneaks,
it doesn't matter what it is, zero running back.
You go high, upside rookie running backs, whatever it is.
I'm really comfortable walking out of drafts with Jerome Ford late.
And that was your pick for round 13 targets.
Yeah, overall, the last three rounds, I want players that I can cut after.
week one if I don't like their roles.
Love that.
So Jerome Ford, he could be a starting running back week one.
If he's not, if it's Dylan Samson, if Judkins ends up being okay, then we'll go
ahead and we'll cut Jerome Ford and we'll hit the waiver wire because there'll be interesting
pickups.
But also, he could be a starting running back week one.
Yeah.
And you could stick around.
I mean, the Judkins stuff is messy and gross.
And I, that's another one.
I want no part of it.
Like, he's not even signed.
So no thank you.
Dylan Samson, obviously, a dude.
But, you know, Ford's going to be out there some.
And it's kind of just a late round filler pick that I like the idea that you could
easily cut him, and if he just starts rolling out early in the season, it might provide you
a little bit more balance to your offense. Debrough, you're going with a Green Bay wide receiver.
Who could it be? It could be any of them. They're all around this range. None of them are really
that super high, I guess, if you like Jaden Reed. So we'll spin the wheel and where does it stop
in the Green Bay wide receiver core for you? On a guy that I have not been super high on in previous years,
but everything is screaming that we need to be, and it's Romeo Dobbs, man. I was lower as a prospect
on Matthew Golden. This is not an anti-Matthew-Golden take. But we've already seen like in the camp
usage right now, Jane Reed is going to play the same role that he's played. So when they go too
wide, he's not going to be out there. They're going to have Dobbs and Golden and everything Dobbs did
below the surface last year. One, at his ADP, he's a fantastic value. Like he produces a wide
receiver four last year and you're getting him way after that. Two, if you look at just his separation
metrics on a per route basis, this guy screams like big break.
breakout season coming. Amongst 112 qualifying wide receivers last year, Romeo Dobbs, 11th in separation,
second and route win rate. You're following these metrics. This is what kind of leads you to these
undercover gyms in these late rounds. I think it's interesting too. I don't think a lot of people would
have expected that too when we were spending the Green Bay wheel that you would go there. Round 14,
we're really in this space where like Mason said, you're kind of looking for interchangeable players.
You're looking for players that are going to be able to hit. You guys both pick some running back.
so Mason, why don't you kick it off round 14, who do you got?
Yeah, we'll see what the role is like week one,
but they're telling us that Brayland Allen's going to be involved in this offense.
And if that's true, we'll see if he needs any good.
And if anything were to occur to Bree's Hall, it could be a league winner.
And if it's not true, again, super easy cut after week one.
Super, super easy cut.
D'Brow, you're going with a very hot buzz camp guy.
The question marks of like, where will he be?
Because I got a lot of guys, but I think a lot of people are saying he'll be somewhere.
So this Kansas City running back is who?
Dude, I've been talking about Bichard Smith.
People can go check the receipts since the pre-draft process.
And the upside is massive here.
He could be the Jerich McKinnon in this offense.
And for everybody that says, oh, but a seventh round pick can't do that.
Oh, but y'all believe in Isaiah Pacheco.
You do remember he was drafted in the seventh round as well.
If Pacheco goes down, Breschart Smith, he can play in the passing attack and he can get it done in early downs.
Like this could be the guy where you pick him up, anything happens to Pacheco.
and he's the lead back for Casey's offense.
And it's not Kareem Hunt for a player that is a converted wide receiver.
His final year, he was second receiving grade and 20 second in yards per route run.
He's got juice, man.
This is, if you're talking about the guys that I can pick up and it's all upside.
And if I cut them after week one, week two, week three, it doesn't matter.
Breschard Smith, it needs to be drafted and a ton of spots.
I think that's the theory too, because I do think there you can build out the scenario where you're like,
yeah, Kareem Hunt's the goal line guy.
And then they also have Elijah Mitchell.
Like there are some problems that exist in there.
But if you take that theory, he's the perfect pick because you can just cut bait if it is absolutely nothing in week one.
And wouldn't you hate to be the person that said, I'm going to pass on him.
Then all of a sudden he gets volume.
And now you're playing the Waverwire streets after week one.
Nothing worse than overspending in week one off of a big high performance or something like that.
All right.
This is our final round.
This is round 15 Mason.
Who is your final pick in this draft?
that obviously you've laid the groundwork where you're wanting that playable upside,
but someone you're really easily willing to cut. So who is that?
It's going to be Miles Sanders. Not trending well.
Jaden Blue is getting all the buzz out of Dallas right now.
I think you'd rather have Jaden Blue over Sanders.
He's currently dealing with injury himself.
But I would expect that you actually have to spend a reasonable draft pick on Blue
where Miles Sanders could be your last pick.
Yeah, a lot of those like Miles Sanders looks better than Giovante Williams.
And you can already feel like something is brewing there and from negative to positive on
blue. I totally get the vibe on this one. Debrough, where are you going?
I'm going with Jarquess Hunter, and I know Kyron Williams just got the extension. I still think
that this is going to be a split backfield. I don't think the Rams are going to run every single
thing through Kyron Williams like they'd done every other year. Blake Corr improved he was not,
wasn't up to that task last year. Jarkwest Hunter could be as a player that you look at you stack up
these skill sets side by side with all these guys in this Rams backfield. Hunter is the guy that
is built different than Kyra Williams and Blake Korm. He offers the explosive ability and the
explosive upside for the Rams rushing attack for a player that, look, inside the top 24 and yards are to
contact per attempt in each of the last three seasons in college they was there, and top 22 and breakaway
percentage in two of those three years. So Jarquez Hunter, again, a player that if he doesn't have any
role and I'm wrong about this, you're cutting him. But if he has a standalone role from week one and that grows,
and if Williams misses any time,
this is the guy we're ranking as a top 24 running back,
probably on a weekly basis.
This guy did not make the list of the players
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covered 30 players that you guys must have across drafts.
But who is the one player you cannot leave a draft without?
We are going to switch it up.
We're going to end with Mason.
Dibro, who is the one player that we talked about that you cannot leave your draft
without?
It's easily Tedroo McMillan.
The wide receiver three that is going to produce as a wide receiver two, and if he's
this year's Malik neighbors, he's going to win leagues for people.
Mason, you got to represent.
the flock fantasy here.
Everyone's dying to know of all the players.
Who is the one that you cannot leave your draft without?
I got to keep it where D-Bros going.
Round six rookie.
We're going to go Trevionn Henderson.
Yes.
I think you have an elite prospect profile.
Perfect situation.
If it wasn't for Ramadre being there,
I think this would be a round three pick,
but Ramadre gives you the discount.
And I don't think Ramadji is relevant halfway through the year.
And you guys both picked rookies.
So I throw back out, you know, outside of Genti,
because he's not a value.
There's a lot of value in the rookie market
with a whole lot of upside.
And I would say based on a lot of what you guys have built
from Jacoby Myers to even what Mason was doing
on the back half of running backs,
there's a lot of like chalk that's sitting out there.
There's some safety plays
that you can protect yourself with the high upside plays.
Now, there's plenty of people that don't care about that.
They don't need, like I'm, you know, I don't care about being safe.
I'm going to take my shots if you're not first or last.
But I think in proper roster construction,
like you should walk out of drafts with some of those really high upside plays,
but find spots to protect them in.
And you guys made the dictation that you have to have these high, high, high, upside rookies,
and you've backed it up with some of your draft picks in here that were some safety plays that protect you.
Jacoby Myers protects you, D, bro.
As you built through the draft, Mason, you put running backs in there that have got some serious, like, floor plays if it takes Henderson a little bit of time.
So I really like that.
But we want to hear from you guys.
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