The Herd with Colin Cowherd - FantasyPros - Fantasy Football Sleepers That Will BLOW UP in 2025 (Ep. 1615)

Episode Date: July 17, 2025

Join Joe Pisapia, Pat Fitzmaurice, and Terrell Furman Jr. as they highlight six deep sleepers that are going to help you win your fantasy football leagues in 2025! Timestamps: (May be off due to ads) Intro - 0:00:00 Roschon Johnson - 0:01:13 Marvin Mims Jr - 0:03:41 Dylan Sampson - 0:05:20 Joshua Palmer - 0:07:26 Jalen Coker - 0:09:40 Hunter Henry - 0:12:07 FantasyPros Cheat Sheet Creators - 0:14:20 Helpful Links: Dynasty Rookie Draft Simulator - Our Dynasty Rookie Draft Simulator lets you complete a mock in minutes with no waiting between picks! Customize your league settings to match your league’s exact format. Premium subscribers can test trade scenarios by mocking with their traded draft picks. Prepare for rookie drafts AND dynasty startup drafts in one place! Use the Dynasty Rookie Draft Simulator to dominate your rookie draft today at fantasypros.com/simulator! Discord - Join our FantasyPros Discord Community! Chat with other fans and get access to exclusive AMAs that wind up on our podcast feed. Come get your questions answered and BE ON THE SHOW at fantasypros.com/chat Leave a Review – If you enjoy our show and find our insight to be valuable, we’d love to hear from you! Your reviews fuel our passion and help us tailor content specifically for YOU. Head to Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever else you get your podcasts and leave an honest review. Let’s make this show the ultimate destination for fantasy football enthusiasts like us. Thank you for watching and for showing your support – https://fantasypros.com/review/ BettingPros Podcast – For advice on the best picks and props across both the NFL and college football each and every week, check out the BettingPros Podcast at bettingpros.com/podcast, our BettingPros YouTube channel at youtube.com/bettingpros, or wherever you listen to podcasts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And today, we're going to take a quick look at some breakouts, some guys that are going to be sleepers who could blow up in 2025. These are not the sexiest names on the board necessarily, but they are names that could help you win a Fantasy League. And I've got two other names that can help you win as well. Terrell Furman, Jr., my boy from Betting Pros and also my Patty Cakes, Pat Fitzmorest. The boys have compiled a list here to help you find some of those deeper stashes in your

fantasy drafts that are upcoming in just the weeks ahead. Before we get to those names, don't forget, use the Cheat Sheet Creator and all the tools here, along with us on the podcast to help you crush all of your competition because the Cheat Shearator is here for you. And I'll tell you what, at Fantasypros.com slash sheet, you can customize your board and make sure that you're getting all of the names. You can pick your favorite experts. You can do it all and do a hybrid of all those things for sleepers, breakouts, and more.

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We're going to start with, I can't believe it. The Packer guy is starting with a Chicago bear. But let's start with a guy in that backfield that you think people should pay attention to. Roshan Johnson. And why yes, Joe, I am interested in a running back who averaged 2.7 yards per carry last season. I'm giving Rochon a mulligan for 2024. Chicago's offensive line was a mess, especially inside, which hurts a running back like Rochon, who conducts a lot of his business between the tackles.

The Bears ranked 31st in the run-blocking metric adjusted line yards. Only the dolphins were worse. Rochon averaged 1.5 yards before contact per carry, which ranked outside the top 100 among running backs. But the Bears have pretty much fixed the interior of their offensive line. They signed Joe Thune, Chris Dalman, and Jonah Jackson. That's a pretty impressive overhaul. And what really has me most interested in Rochon, though, is the possibility that he becomes the discount David Montgomery in Ben Johnson's offense.

Montgomery has 25 rushing touchdowns in 28 regular season games over the last two years. Rochon's a big dude, 225 pounds. That's 20 pounds heavier than DeAndre Swivel. There's a good chance Rochon is the Bears goal line back this year. And Rochon isn't just a one-trick ponies. Pretty good pass catcher. I had 34 catches as a rookie. He's a good enough athlete that he made Bruce Feldman's 22 freaks list back when

Roshan was playing behind Bejohn Robinson at Texas. He was right behind then Oregon cornerback Christian Gonzalez on the list. So Rochon actually enrolled in Texas as a dual threat quarterback. So, and let's look at check. Chicago's other running backs, DeAndre Swift, dead last in the NFL and rushing yards over-expected per carry last season. He was underwater at negative 0.69 yards per carry over-expected. Then there's rookie seventh rounder Kyle Monong guy. I know you like him, Joe. I like him too, but the profile prospect is a little suss. I mean, he's an undersized running back who doesn't

catch passes and it didn't go until the final round of the draft. So Rocheon is a pretty compelling deep sleep. I don't disagree. I like to pay attention when new coaches come in and start to pick their own guys. And Manangai, to me, it feels like it could be the Montgomery goal line back in this offense, which could be huge. Now, look, I don't love DeAndre Swift. So I think there's room for Roshan and Menongai, all of our guys, basically, to eat there in that Chicago backfield.

I want to take a trip to Denver on a plane with Terrell and talk about our next guy here. It's a wide receiver on the Broncos that Terrell thinks could have a breakout season. What is the name to? Oh, yeah, Marvin Mims, Jr. year. I think it's going to be a year because I think the Broncos' offense is going to be way better all the way around. This is year two with a rookie first year QB and the same head coach and a lot of first year QBs, second year QBs. Can't say they're going into that second, third year with the same head coach. And here he is, this is Sean Payton's guy and he's going to coddle him.

I said it all last season and this didn't change, Joe. You thought that just because we're in a new season has changed? No, he is coddling little old bow. like a baby and giving him everything he needs. And what he gave him at the end of the last season was Marvin Mims. Marvin Mims, week 11 on wide receiver 23 in fantasy. And I think, yes, he had a lot of touchdowns in that stretch. We can't sit here and say that we can predict touchdowns all the time.

But he has the target share. He saw a target on 30% of his routes run at that point in time. And I think it can only get better with another year in the offense. And I know Pat Bryan is out there. All the Pats, they're getting on my nerves now. I know that Pat Bryant is out there. I know Pat Bryan's out there, but he's still going to be a first year wide receiver. And regardless, it takes time to escalate.

It takes time to get those guys comfortable in the system. So I think Marvin Mims is going to be way better than wide receiver 49, a 59. I'm sure Terrell still loves you. You're not a pat that gets on anybody's nerves. By the way, Marvin Mims going around wide receiver 57 right now currently. That's kind of his MO. That's a pretty darn good value for a guy in that offense. could take a real step forward this season, that's for sure.

All right, Pat, back to you. Let's go with a running back now in Cleveland that you think might have a bigger opportunity. Perhaps this is based on some recent events or maybe just the fact that we like this talent. We just didn't love the landing spot at first, but it doesn't mean that Dylan Samson can't necessarily still make some progress in his rookie season. Yeah, it's a little of both factors, Joe. I mean, going into the NFL draft this year, I had Dylan Samson ranked RB6 among the running back prospects. He was my favorite guy behind the big five of Ashton Genty, Omerian Hampton, Trivian Henderson, Quintan Junkins, and Caleb Johnson.

Samson has just great lateral agility, really good contact balance for a 200-pound running back, and he plays much faster than his 4.540 time. He's also a really smart, patient runner, and he catches passes. The problem was that Samson was a fourth-run pick of the Cleveland Browns, who had already selected Quintan Judkins in the second round, and also have Jerome Ford on the roster. Well, Quinshan is now facing some legal difficulties, which might give Samson a little bit of daylight in this crowded backfield.

And I know that during their mini-camp, Duce Staley, the Browns running backs coach, said that he wanted to use Samson as a running back and as a receiver who can move around the formation. So that could bode pretty well for Samson's usage this year. I just know the Cleveland-R-B situation is pretty ambiguous, but that ambiguity is giving us a really nice discount on a talented young rookie. So I'm happy to bet on Samson's talent and grab him with one of my final draft picks. Pat, just basically in the same round almost.

I mean, Jerome Ford is it RB56? Samson's at RB60. Would you take Samson? This is the younger back here? Yeah, I mean, it's close, but I think there's a little more upside with Samson. Like, we've seen what Ford is. I don't think Ford is good enough to discer. batch the young guys in that backfield. But there's a chance Samson is so good that they just say, okay, we're playing this guy over Ford and Judkins. Fair enough. All right. Back to you,

Terrell. And let's start with another wide receiver on your list. Joshua Palmer finds himself in a new spot. So why could this be different for his fantasy value this season? Oh, yeah. I mean, it's kind of similar to the Darnel Mooney call I had last year of a proven wide receiver that may have not had the best situation moving on to a good spot for. for them. And Joshua Palmer, while his numbers really don't glare off the page for you at all, but if you watch the tape and you look at him, he gets separation. And that's the thing that they need in Buffalo. They need wide receivers that can get separation and be open. I don't think that there's a clear cut number one. Some people say it's Shakir. Other people feel like Keon

Coleman is going to make a huge step and he's going to be the number one in this offense. I'm sitting here saying, I think Palmer's going to have a role. They didn't bring them in for nothing. and he signed a three-year $36 million deal with the bills. He's in the long-term plans for them. You look at what he does in terms of separation last year, and he was 16th in separation and 12th in route win rate. So I think that this is another spot where we have another veteran wide receiver going to play with a talented quarterback, and he's just going to be somebody that he's like, oh, wait, I can trust this guy.

He can get open multiple times. So wide receiver 69? That's way too low. That's way too low. He doesn't have to go out here and be a lot. top 10 wide receiver for him to outperform wide receiver 69. So I think Josh Palmer's going to have a great year. Do you have to be a Keon Coleman fader to be interested in Josh Palmer? Yes. Okay, because I feel like that might have to be the case there. And I know some people still are not sold on Keon Coleman.

It's one of the big debates this offseason. I know Terrell is not. Pat, I feel like you are a Keon Coleman guy. I'm a Keon guy. You're a Keon guy. Look, I think we all love to do. And I think it was so interesting about him. I heard an interview with him where, you know, they asked him, what did you do, you know, last this offseason when, you know, you're watching tape, then he said, I have to improve on everything. He was just saying none of it was good enough, which is great that he kind of recognized that. And you got to love the kids, just whether or not he can improve on it. That's a different question, as Terrell pointed out, too. The ADP for Palmer is basically free. So free is always a nice investment. All right, we got two more names here. We're going to get to, uh, one is a wide receiver. Going back to the Carolina Panthers for this one. This kid had some moments last season. Pat, let's talk about Jalen Coker because now all of a sudden it is a very crowded room. Ted McMillan is there. You have Xavier Leggett. You have Adam Thielen, the ageless wonder still hovering around. So where does Coker fit into all this? Yeah, I mean, there is target competition, Joe, but like not a lot of high-level target competition. It's not like he has to contend with Justin Jefferson and Jordan

Addison. The Panthers obviously expect Teterola McMillan to play a big role right away. But then it's Xavier Legat, who, let's face, it was pretty terrible as a rookie last year. And Adam Thielen, who's going to be 35 next month, I think Moses had Adam Thielen on his fantasy team back in biblical times. And then Carolina's tight ends don't really catch many passes. So our colleague, Derek Brown, was an early Jalen Koker enthusiast. And as much as I hate to admit it, I think Debrough might be right about this. In fact, I'm going to use some of the same numbers. Please, nobody tag him on the YouTube comments.

I know, we don't want to inflate his ego. Yeah, I'm going to use some of Debrose numbers to make the case for Koker. There were six games last season where Koker played at least two-thirds of the offensive snaps for the Panthers. And Bryce Young was the Panthers starting quarterback. Coker average 55.7 receiving yards per game, 11.4 PPR fantasy points per game, and 1.8, 9 yards per route run in those six contests. So, yeah, I mean, I think this guy is sneaky good. And I like him as a late round flyer.

I think there is a path that targets, maybe multiple paths to targets, since this is not a, I don't know, not a world-beating wide receiver core that he has to deal with. Yeah, a Coker's actually a guy that I picked up in a couple deeper leagues last year. And I picked up in Dynasty, too, because I do like the player. And I think much to my sugar in as well, Dibro might have been right about this. one. So I'm fascinated to see Bryce Young take another step forward this season too because I think if you were paying attention to last year, it's something we keep driving home on the betting shows.

If you haven't seen those, go subscribe to betting pros. We've been talking about a lot of the recaps from last year, the offseason and, you know, prepping for this year and looking at win totals and whatnot. That was a team that covered a lot of games. Defense is still bad, which means the offense still has to push the football. So a lot of positive things there, potentially for Jaylon Coker and for the Panthers. Good head coach too. All right, give us one more name here. Terrell, I guess you're trying to get in my good graces here because he chose a Patriot. Yeah, I did. And even though I may not be the highest Drake May guy here on the show, but Hunter Henry,

Hunter Henry, here we go again. Have y'all played Grand Theft Auto and you had CJ? And he's like, oh, man, here we go again. That's what I feel with Hunter Henry every single time. 2023, he joins the Patriots. ADP is tight in 30 that season. He finished in weeks 1 through 15 before he went down with injury for the rest of the season. 1 through 15, he finished his Titan 13.

2024, ADP, Titan 22. Okay, the people are learning a little bit. He finishes Titan 12 on the season last year. And Drake May's full starts, he had a 19.2% target share, 49.9 yards per game, and 11.3 fantasy points per game in full PPR. I mean, he's been great. and now he's Titan 19. Clearly we see his ceiling or the floor, that is.

The floor is Titan 12, Titan 13. He is a number one Titan, and he's going all the way dirt cheap. In the back of the rounds, if you just want to fade tight in and just punt tight in, go get Hunter Henry. Because Hunter Henry is good every single year. And I'm not afraid of Stefan Diggs. I'm not afraid of whatever else that Vrable has cooking up over there with the Patriots. I think Hunter Henry is here to say. You know, it's interesting, Terrell.

because like Tyler Warren, great talent. I'm just completely not sold yet on the situation being a good one for him as a rookie tight end. They're going, you know, not that far away from each other. Would you rather have the outside of the talent of, okay, there you go. That's the guy. That's the guy. How about for you?

Same answer. Would you take the floor of Hunter Henry or whatever the upside is of Tyler Warren? Or do you just take both. I would stash him and see what happens. Yeah, I mean, I do agree with a lot of what Terrell is saying about Hunter Henry, but I would take Tyler Warren just for the, the sure possibilities with the upside. All right.

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