The Herd with Colin Cowherd - FantasyPros - Fantasy Gold: The Top 10 Must-Have Players for 2026 (Ep. 1981)
Episode Date: March 21, 2026Join Joe Pisapia, Derek Brown, and special guest Justin Boone from Yahoo Sports as they reveal their top 10 must-have fantasy players to target in 2026 now that the dust has settled from NFL free agen...cy! Timestamps: (May be off due to ads) Intro - 0:00:00 Isaiah Likely - 0:03:35 Chig Okonkwo - 0:07:15 Jaylen Waddle Trade Live Reactions - 0:11:25 Hard Rock Bet - 0:15:50 Mike Evans - 0:18:10 Wan’Dale Robinson - 0:22:25 Ken Walker - 0:26:11 Chuba Hubbard - 0:30:42 Bhayshul Tuten - 0:33:31 FantasyPros Discord - 0:35:24 Omarion Hampton - 0:36:10 Malik Willis - 0:38:28 Ashton Jeanty - 0:43:07 Outro - 0:45:39 Helpful Links: Hard Rock Bet - All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet. Sign up for Hard Rock Bet and make a $5 bet and you'll get $150 in bonus bets if you win. Head over to Hard Rock Bet, sign up and make your first deposit today. Payable in bonus bet(s). Not a cash offer. Offered by the Seminole Tribe of Florida in FL. Offered by Seminole Hard Rock Digital, LLC, in all other states. Must be 21+ and physically present in AZ, CO, FL, IL, IN, MI, NJ, OH, TN or VA to play. Terms and conditions apply. Concerned about gambling? In FL, call 1-888-ADMIT-IT. In IN, if you or someone you know has a gambling problem and wants help, call 1-800-9-WITH-IT. GAMBLING PROBLEM? CALL 1-800-GAMBLER (AZ, CO, IL, MI, NJ, OH, TN, VA). Follow us on Twitch - The team here at FantasyPros is taking questions all week, every week on Twitch. Follow us on Twitch at twitch.tv/fantasypros and never miss a stream! Discord – Join our FantasyPros Discord Community! Chat with other fans and get access to exclusive AMAs that wind up on our podcast feed. Come get your questions answered and BE ON THE SHOW at fantasypros.com/chat Leave a Review – If you enjoy our show and find our insight to be valuable, we’d love to hear from you! Your reviews fuel our passion and help us tailor content specifically for YOU. Head to Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever else you get your podcasts and leave an honest review. Let’s make this show the ultimate destination for fantasy football enthusiasts like us. Thank you for watching and for showing your support – https://fantasypros.com/review/ BettingPros Podcast – For advice on the best picks and props across both the NFL and college football each and every week, check out the BettingPros Podcast at bettingpros.com/podcast, our BettingPros YouTube channel at youtube.com/bettingpros, or wherever you listen to podcasts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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I was scrolling on my Instagram, having my morning cup of tea because I'm a snob,
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I see Justin Boone's face.
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misconception i was not on the one year prove it deal uh this was just a a new extension i would like
to believe for the incredible first season that i have had at yahoo but no i mean it's been a wonderful
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Hey, you know, Dee, I feel like a little Boone success, you know, I mean,
your number one ranker all these times is, I thought he owes us something, right?
Kind of like more guest spots in season maybe.
I'm so busy.
I'm just in Boone.
You know, I mean, I have said this before, I believe, on the show, but I mean, you go back
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I was just some dude from Canada doing fantasy content until I joined the Fantasy Pro's
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The hearts are going out there.
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There are people who listen to the show and they're starting out to.
We all started somewhere, you know, I always say, I think,
idiot can get to a podcast because I had one, right? Look at me. Look at me.
Still an idiot, still doing podcast. So the boys have ranked their top five post-free agency
dudes here that they are super excited about drafting this year. Debrough, let's get you in here
first. Let's talk about your number five on your list here. And it is Isaiah likely now of
the New York football giant. So Harbaugh took his tight end with him. And instead of going
home, we just went to New York. Yeah, man. I mean, I'm going to be drafting him everywhere.
Right now in my early redraft ranks, I have him as tight in seven.
And I just, the clear path for targets is set.
I mean, are we worried about Malik neighbors coming off the ACL?
What does he look like to begin the season or even halfway through the season?
And then, okay, so if neighbors were to even start on the pup, I don't know if that's going to happen.
But again, this is early.
Who is he competing for targets to be the number two target getter on a Jackson Dartlett offense?
Darius Slayton, darn on Mooney.
We're worried about those guys.
we shouldn't be. And we've seen the talent upside from likely.
2025 was basically a loss season.
You go back to 2024 amongst 47 qualifying tight ends.
Likely was top 15 in target per route run rate, yards per route run, first downs per route
run, basically anything you look at.
So approaching Isaiah likely is a must draft guy with top five upside at the position.
I think it's just it honestly feels like low hanging fruit guys.
Boone, right now there's that time of year where the ranks are a little stagnant.
It's March.
Everyone's waiting for the draft to finish for free agency.
wrap up and all that good stuff.
So as of now, likely's outside of the top
12 tight ends and the early
ranks, but just I want to get Boone's take on this
because we've got Ronde Gadsden,
Jake Ferguson, Joanne Johnson.
Would you take likely over all
of those guys? Because those are the 10, 11, 12 right now.
Yeah, I believe I have likely right now
at tight end 12. I think he's right in that range.
D'Brow certainly a little more excited than I am.
But I think the big thing is what Dibro said.
This Malik neighbor's injury,
This time of year, I get it.
People aren't talking about injuries much.
Normally, it's like all very positive.
I mean, the Cam Scadaboo stuff right now is very, oh, he's going to be fine.
He's going to be good.
We're not really hearing the same about Malik neighbors.
And if you look at the moves that they're making, I think that also makes you wonder
whether neighbors is going to be healthy to start the year because bringing in Darno
Mooney and Calvin Austin and even a guy like Isaiah likely, they're loading up here.
And I think they're loading up because they know that neighbors at least isn't going to be himself
in the first part of the season if he's even out there at all.
So this is going to be a great start to the year for Likely.
Of course, he's following Harbaugh over, which you like to see.
The only negative that I could put on this is we were waiting for this to happen in Baltimore.
And the opportunity was there.
And Baltimore made the decision to extend the much older Mark Andrews and actually likely walk.
So that's the only part that I'm a little bit hesitant with him thinking that Baltimore, who in general, is a pretty smart organization, even if they're trying to do certain things, maybe a little shady, maybe and maybe not.
don't know, but it's a pretty smart organization, and they let him walk.
And normally good players don't leave like that.
So that would be the only thing that I'm a little bit worried about.
But the opportunity is going to be there.
The volume is going to be there.
On top of the fact that though they don't play the same position, think about what Wondell
Robinson did in this offense and the volume that he got in this offense.
I mean, likely can work a lot of the same areas of the field from the tight end spot and
be this like movable dynamic piece for them.
I think that's really exciting.
And we also know in fantasy.
doesn't take that much to get into like the low end tight end one ranks right like you put up a
decent touchdown total you can get in there pretty quickly after the top guys it's pretty wide open
so i really like likely as somebody that i'm also targeting in drafts this year dbrough you know what
i love i think it's so cute that boone thought he could hide the fact that he was canadian when he
pronounces it organization i just love that as if there's any doubt potentially on that at all all right
so two tight ends to kick things off here uh chica conco uh the next one on boon
list here at number five. So let's talk about that. He is now Washington commander.
Certainly opportunity abound here for him. Commander's obviously some issues last year
offensive lines, some issues with Jane Daniels' health, some issues with some of the age on
the team, all kind of came home to roost, unfortunately. So 2026, Chica Conquo, what does that look
like for you going forward in fantasy this year? Well, this is another one of those like, you know,
this is a deeper pick. I saw Debrough put likely on here, sort of a little bit of a deeper tight end,
even though he has him at tight end seven. So I was like, you know what, I'm going to do
same. This isn't necessarily like must have. I'm going to have Oconco on every team, but I think
he is going to be an incredible value because you look back like last year, what an older Zach
Ertz did was the tight end 14 in fantasy points per game through the first 13 weeks before he
suffered his season ending injury. And Oconco, somebody that's been like low key, pretty interesting,
pretty productive, catch him more than 50 passes, you know, each of the past three years here.
We've also seen him do it as a fantasy starter for stretches. Like we saw him as a top 12 fantasy
fantasy option. He accomplished that feat
down the stretch in 2024,
posted top seven
weekly finishes in half of his games from
week 12 on that year. So we've seen
it in small sample sizes. Now he's
going to get this opportunity attached to a good
quarterback in an offense that we
really don't know who the number two pass
catcher is going to be, right? We have Terry McLaurin
who I think is also somebody that
people should be targeting in drafts. Just remember
he's one season removed from having
a great year. And then last
year, like you were talking about, all the problems
they had and the injuries and everything, right?
So this season, who's going to be that number two?
Brandon Ayuk seems like he's probably going to end up there at some point.
But what is Brandon Ayuk?
Now, is he the guy that we saw a few seasons ago where he can be a meaningful piece?
Or is he in a different stage of his career?
He definitely has a lot to prove.
So I think Oconquo, in a role that we've seen be valuable for fantasy already,
is a very sneaky player that you're going to be able to get very late in drafts
and throw them on your bench potentially early in the season and see if he can do
anything close to what Ertz was doing in this offense.
Because of the Earth's performance last year with Jane Daniels, what's your thoughts here
on Chica Conquo Debo real quick? Like, where do you have in your ranks? I'm sure he's outside
the top 12, I would imagine from your rankings, but I imagine he's kind of sniffing around there.
He is, I've got him in like mid, tight end two range.
Okay.
Like I think the conversation for him starts somewhere around like tight in 17, where I have
Dalton Kincaid around.
Um, Akonkwo, I just want to see his route share, like what that looks like in this Washington
offense. I mean, he could be a full time player. The other thing that I worry about is like,
could he be in a 50 or 60% route share? But if he gets the full run, I mean, Akonkwo has been one
of the guys like where we, we can go back to the Albert O conversation where we've had small
sample like efficiency here. We've been like, okay, Akanku could break out. And just because
it didn't happen in Tennessee doesn't mean that it can't happen in Washington. And to Boone's
point though. What's stopping him from being the number two target earner in this offense, which right
now like, okay, fine, even if we want to put Brandon Ayuk there, can he still out target Iyuk?
Because what are we going to get out of him? And it's not like the commanders have a lot of draft
picks to go out and address their receiving room anyway. Like outside of their first round pick,
they only have one other selection inside the top 100. So they're really going to need with all their other
needs. Like you could say that they're going to go corner. They could go D line. There's a lot
of different other ways they could go with that pick in the third round.
So are they going to add another pass catcher of consequence to this offense?
Probably not.
So I'm in an Oconquo as well.
Well, and I think too with the Ertz thing, like he was producing.
And yes, there were some injuries at times, but you had Terry McClure in there for big
chunks.
You had Debo Samuel there.
Those two on the field at the same time.
And Ertz was still usable in fantasy during those stretches.
So I think Oconco could certainly step in and it would be very interesting.
maybe I don't know if we want to address it here but we got some breaking news do we want to do it
Dibro here did you see this yeah this is something we want to mention on the show I don't even
what are you bringing up here uh okay I'm not a good go ahead we have Jalen Waddle it looks like everyone's
reporting it uh Jalen Waddle being traded to the Broncos wow yes big shocking breaking news here
D bro you want to give your thoughts dude this is um
This is really freaking interesting for a passing offense that has used kind of a collection of sums.
And I mean, really, for any Marvin Mims truthers, gone.
There's not even a pulse anymore.
This definitely is going to ding Cortland Sutton because you haven't had really his claim to fame has been target earning.
And as the de facto number one, now he's got a serious running made for competition for targets, man.
So Sutton becomes what?
I mean, out of these two guys, give me Waddle and a vacuum.
I would take Waddle easily over Sutton.
I'm guessing we're in concert there, right?
Yeah, Waddle getting into a much better situation now.
I think now he moves back into because I had moved him down.
I had a lot of concerns in Miami with Malik Willis coming in there that he was going to
not get enough volume that you were going to see Willis come in,
not throw the ball nearly as much as they have in the past.
And now Waddle not get the kind of volume that you'd need fantasy wise.
So yeah, I think that was concerning.
Now for me, this puts him back in that low-end wide receiver two conversation.
It bumps Cortland Sutton down to maybe more of that touchdown or bust kind of wide receiver three.
I know you at Debra, we're always in on the same guys.
I don't know how you felt about Pat Bryant, but I was a Pat Bryant-truther.
I thought he had an opportunity to eventually come on.
Now he might have to wait for Cortland Sutton to be out of the way.
So that really kills his fantasy value this season.
But what a great thing for this offense.
What a great thing for Bo Nix, who kind of took a bit of a step back last year.
I think this could potentially boost him up a few spots, get him back into that low-end QB-1
fantasy conversation.
Just huge news that Joe was so taken back by that he had to jump off just to compose himself.
Well, first of all, yeah, we had massive storms here by me last night.
I mean, like wind blowing garbage cans across the street kind of storms, heavy rains, all this stuff.
Trees are down.
I got frozen out of the show.
I come back and the guys are still doing the show, which is great.
I mean, it's nice to see Debrough taking initiative for once in his life.
I don't let me take the wheel for a second, okay?
You know, the song is let Jesus take the wheel, not Derek Brown.
The Broncos trading for Miami wide receiver, Jalen Waddle.
Is that what we're talking about?
That is what we are discussing.
I didn't know if we wanted to jump into the breaking news,
but we figured we had some time to fill there.
It just happened at the exact perfect moment, yeah.
We went full of filibustering with, we were Joe lists for a,
little bit. So I mean, just because I was out of it for a second, um, give me, give me the, uh, two
second recap because, uh, do they just hate Malik Willis? Do they not want him to have anyone to throw
the ball to? Is that, is that the idea, Boone? Yeah, we didn't really talk about the Miami side of this.
And it leaves that off. That's how you know, I'm a great host. I wasn't even here and I asked
the right question. There you go. One thing that I said while you were gone was we were talking about,
you know, Malik Willis in that offense. And when I did mention him, I mentioned that it made me
worried about Jalen Waddle and the kind of volume that he was going to get because I don't think
we're going to see them throw the ball nearly as much now, right? And I know he was a backup in
Green Bay, but the past two years and the three games that he started, his past attempts were 14,
19, and 21. And he is that kind of quarterback, right? They're going to try to run the ball. He's going to
run the ball. If they try to throw a lot of volume, I don't think that's going to necessarily work out
for him. So I think this is very problematic now. You look at this offense that we were already worried
about with a guy like Waddle, what is the move? I would imagine they plan in the draft to
go out and get somebody and start to add to that group there. There's a couple guys left
in free agency, but no one really has significance in terms of pass catchers. At least, I mean,
we'll see what happens with Stefan Diggs. He's going to still be out there, but we don't know
what's going to happen with him off the field. We've got to figure that out. So yeah, Miami, in that
offense, there's some deeper guys, Malik Washington there, who's kind of interesting, like some deeper
guys like that, but man, it's concerning.
Guys that they signed a free agency like Tutu Atwell and Jalen Tober, those aren't guys that
you want to be relying on consistently in your offense.
So yeah, Miami's got a lot of things to figure out before the season.
Yeah, especially not for a first time starter, Malik Willis, too.
That's kind of crazy.
All right.
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All right, let's get number four in the guys list.
Wow, massive news job.
Dude, did you see the compensation that they got back from Waddle before we move all
for this real fast?
I did.
No, I did.
I saw it.
Wow.
It was a lot.
It was a lot.
Okay, so the dolphins are definitely taking a wide receiver in the first round.
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And let's get to number four on our list too.
Mike Evans for Derek Brown.
Debrough, you know, he's an older wide receiver on a team that I think health-wise,
we have a ton of questions about.
So what could go wrong, right, for Mike Evans?
This just feels like the Devonte Adams situation for me last year.
That's all this feels like where.
That's a good comp.
He goes to a really freaking good team that's going to throw the ball that has competent quarterback play.
It is a non-zero chance that Mike Evans leads the entire freaking NFL in Red Zone targets this year.
Who's to stop him, guys?
Joanne Jennings is gone.
Christian Kirk, not scared of.
Ricky Pearsall can't stay healthy.
George Kittle, what do we see out of him from 2026?
Like, when does he even play?
When's he's 100%.
And people are going to discount Mike Evans because they're worried about the hamstring injuries and all that
of stuff and all the EMF absolutely idiotic jokes are going to be out there. And I'm not worried about
any of that. And people are going to say, okay, well, but Mike Evans is getting older. Okay, and they're
going to point to his 1.76 yards per route run last year. The thing that I'll push back about
that is, did you see Baker Mayfield play quarterback last year for most of the season? After the
beginning of the season, he was hurt and he played terribly. Mike Evans, if you look at also
deeper analytics on him amongst all white receivers, at least 200 routes.
this guy was second in separation last year and second in route win rate.
I'm not worried about Evans.
The cliff has not come.
You will get a discount based off of his age, based off the injury history, and the upside is not going to be priced into Mike Evans.
Yes, I'm all in.
You know what's funny as we're talking about Mike Evans.
It just brought up something that you kind of mentioned.
You see the compensation and for the Waddle trade.
And looking at that compensation, the one thing that just popped in my head, Boone, was that, okay, so we're moving first round picks for Jalen Waddle, right?
So what's the AJ Brown cost?
Or have we gotten to a point now where everybody, like the musical chairs thing,
like everybody's found a chair and AJ Brown housing and the Eagles made have overplayed their hand a little bit?
And then you can't get what you could have gotten for AJ Brown, you know, a couple weeks ago.
And I know they want to wait until June because of all the cap implications there.
But that does kind of beg the discussion, I think, a little bit too, of like,
what is that AJ Brown value now after Jaylon Waddle goes for a first round and a bunch of other picks?
Yeah, agreed.
and there's a lot of factors in terms of like,
you know, his happiness with the team
and how he feels about sticking around there.
I don't normally bet against Howie Roseman either.
I feel like he tends to be pretty smart about these things.
And I think he'll get it sorted out eventually here.
But yeah, the A.J. Brown situation is basically like the last major piece
in terms of, you know, receiver talent out there.
And there's still a few teams.
I mean, it really seems like the Patriots are the ones that are hoping they can get that done.
And I mean, from a fantasy perspective,
I think we would all like to see that happen as well for Drake May and for AJ Brown to give them that true number one.
I don't think Romeo Dobbs is that guy.
But I really like Mike Evans.
I'm curious, Debrough, where you have him, though, because factoring in all those things you said and like you look at the hamstring injuries, this is six straight seasons now where he's had some type of hamstring injury.
And yes, he's getting older.
I think he still has a bunch left in the tank.
There's been some decline, but has a bunch left in the tank.
the other thing I worry about though is the receivers like him these bigger guys the cliff does come very quickly for them normally right so I do worry that it could hit and yes it'll throw out all the electrical power station all that stuff's nonsense what I really think value wise in my mind I have him ranked as a wide receiver three but I think when he's on the field he's probably going to be a wide receiver two in fantasy and he'll have those you know spiked weeks the touchdowns he'll be up there in wide receiver one range but really I think you're
expecting that when he's in your lineup, he could be a wide receiver too.
The question is just going to be how many games is he going to miss?
And what are you going to do during those games?
And you can always find somebody else on the waiver, whereas, you know, that flex option to get in that.
I like the Devante Adams comp that you laid out, DeBron.
That was a very astute.
I think that in terms of usage, like big upside in terms of touchdowns.
I like that.
I think that's a good.
Do I like it long term?
No.
It's a three-year contract, but it's a one-year deal, if you know what I'm talking about.
Yep.
Let's get to the next one here.
on Boone's list, number four, Wondell Robinson, who Brian Daibble now
call him plays for the Titans and he brings Wondell Robinson over.
So obviously, target volume is the key here.
Volume is always king and fantasy.
But what's the quality of that volume here in year two for Cam Ward?
I think that Robinson's the kind of guy that we saw something different from him last year,
right?
In past seasons, you know, my guy Matt Harmon over at Yahoo, he always picks on Wando
Robinson, at least he did in the past, you know, the Mickey Mouse.
type like PPR scam kind of receiver.
And we saw that a couple years ago, 93 catches 699 yards.
That's insane.
Like how is that even possible, right?
But last year, we saw them open it up a little bit more with him, give him a little
more downfield.
He still, you know, he has 92 catches, but he has a more respectable stat line with
over 1,000 yards, scores four touchdowns.
And this was, you know, the worst kept secret in free agency.
We knew he was going to go to Tennessee.
We knew he was going to rejoin Brian Dable.
And I don't know that.
there was a team that needed him more.
Like they didn't go out and get somebody else big.
Perhaps in the draft,
I mean, it seems like they're pretty locked on Jeremiah Love in the first round.
We'll see if he ends up there.
And if he isn't available to them, if he does somehow go earlier than that,
maybe they'll go receiver early.
But right now, it really looks like Robinson is going to get a ton of volume in that
offense and have a chance to produce.
Last year, we saw whether it was Chimery D.K.,
whether it was Alec Akeo Manor, like these guys were having these, you know,
games where they were flashing,
where they were getting opportunity. Robinson, a much more proven receiver than those guys.
So I like him, not as somebody that's going to win you your league, not as somebody who's going to come in and have a monster year,
but a guy who's going to be a nice value and be a really good, you know, wide receiver three flex option with some upside.
Yeah, in PBR leagues especially.
And I could see him just being that safety blanket for Cam Ward.
Look, I like what Cam Ward did in the second half too.
After they made the coaching change, things got a little bit better for him.
And he played a little bit better.
And he's a hardworking kid, which is what I like about Cam Moore.
He takes it, you know, we knock a lot of the guys who don't give a good work.
ethic who don't seem to refocus.
I don't think any of that has ever a problem with Cam Ward.
I think he's just still kind of figuring things out.
And that's why I'm optimistic about this Wondale Robinson signing.
It looks like you had something else to say there.
Well, I was going to say, I'm hopeful that Daibu can really improve that offense.
I think they did a great job with the coaching hires that they made this year.
And Daibow coming in to help them.
How could they go wrong?
Certainly.
I don't know if we're going to ask history of the universe.
I also, I don't know if we're going to ask Debrose's thoughts on this one.
Correct me if I'm wrong, Debrough.
Did we not make a Wondell Robinson dynasty trade?
last season. Oh, we did.
I was trying to push for the playoffs.
I think I sent you maybe like a second round rookie.
Yeah, I got a second.
Which is fair value.
I'll still take that trade even today.
And this is not me shading Robinson.
I'm actually, I actually want to push back a little bit on something you said,
like him not being a league winner.
If you draft this guy as a wide receiver three on your team and he produces as,
let's just say what he does last year, wide receiver 14 and fantasy points per game,
I think he absolutely can be a league winner.
And the thing that we saw at a Robinson
that was very, very different from previous years,
you saw verticality in his game.
He wasn't just this like around the line of scrimmage.
His A dot went from freaking in the fives to 9.0.
You saw him be able to get downtown.
And that was honestly where we saw the stat lines differ from Wando Robinson.
So if we're talking about he lands with Brian Dayball,
who did that and changed his role last year,
and he's competing with who.
L.K.O. Manor, Shemiri, D.K.,
which basically he just stole D.K.'s role, so not even really D.K.
But he's competing with Gunner Helm and the ghost of Christmas past of Calvin Ridley.
Yes, please. Give me all the one, Del Robinson.
And I think he can be a league.
All right.
Let's get to the next name on the list.
And it's a big one here.
The Super Bowl MVP is number three on Derek's list of guys.
We got to have now post-free agency.
So Ken Walker, obviously, had a great playoff run.
now it's a matter of what he can do for the Kansas City Chiefs.
And Debrough, when you talk about Walker, too, tell us about what your thoughts are as Patrick Mahomes, we would imagine, either starts the season late or starts it slow at the very least and how that factors into Kenneth Walker's fantasy value.
I mean, let's even play out the case scenario where Justin Fields starts for the first four games.
I think that that could easily be in play.
And you're going to tell me, does Andy Reid definitively buck the trend of being a past first offense?
we don't think he's going to let fields go out there and sling it 45 freaking times.
So if that were to happen too, this offense is going to revolve around Ken Walker.
And Andy Reid is incredibly stubborn.
Is this going to be a run first offense?
No.
Are they going to run the ball more?
Possibly because they actually have a running back that can do that.
And when I said I was so in on Ken Walker last year, I guess I must have really meant in
in 2026.
But the thing about Walker, it's never been the talent.
It's been the usage and it's been a little injuries along the way.
for everybody that wants to push back on the Ken Walker hype by landing in Kansas City,
like why?
Like he's shown the ability to produce and he's been an RB1 in previous years and
fantasy points per game in fantasy.
And he's exactly what the chiefs need.
You look at this offense last year.
Second lowest explosive run rate.
They had the lowest miss tackle rate in the entire freaking NFL.
They ran the 10th highest zone rushing percentage, 51% of their runs.
and Walker with those runs,
third highest explosive run rate,
third most miss tackles force per attempt.
He's top 12 in basically
every single per touch efficiency metric
that you could pull up.
And he's a plus in the passing games.
We're talking about receptions,
touchdown totals,
who is taking work away from him?
It's not a Mardi Mercado.
Nope.
So Ken Walker's show,
yeah, sign me up.
He's an RB1 in fantasy for me.
Boone,
I was on with the CBS boys yesterday.
We were talking about free agency
and all this stuff.
and they asked me where would you want to draft Ken Walker.
I said ideally in the third round is where I'd like to get him,
but I don't know if that's going to be an option.
Do you think he's going to end up being a second?
Yeah, I do think he's going to be a lock second round pick or maybe a late second,
maybe early third loop around.
I mean, ideally I'd take him in like the 10th round if that was possible,
but it's not going to be possible.
And I don't think the third round is going to happen much.
I think this is one of those things where in free agency,
we see guys get headlines.
Everybody gets excited about them.
And this is the player that everyone has been talking about the last.
week since this happened, right?
Everyone is excited about Kenneth Walker.
People are trying to trade for him in Dynasty.
People are pumped to get him in redraft.
So yes, I think he's going to be a second round pick.
He's going to continue to move up boards.
And for good reason.
I'm with Debrough.
Like this is a great spot for him.
The only question will be durability because we've seen him get hurt in the past.
And last year, I also was pumping him up before the season.
I was drafting him everywhere.
I took a lot of him and Charbonnet.
That didn't work out great.
That was one of my biggest Ls on the year in terms of
my rankings and to watch him late in the season come on and finally, you know, make it happen
in the playoffs. It wasn't any sort of consolation prize for me. I was still upset. But yes,
in Kansas City, they're bringing him in to get a chance to be that guy. And you can't argue
with what the Seahawks did last year, slow playing him like that because he was healthy later
in the season. And in the previous couple years, when they tried to use him that way, he was getting
dinged up. So I hope that he could stay healthy and I hope that he can go out there. And really early in the
year probably be the engine of that offense because you're either going to have a less than 100%
Mahomes or you're going to have Justin Fields out there who we've seen the Justin Fields show and
maybe it'll be a little bit better, you know, with Andy Reid calling the shots, but I still think
that this offense is going to look a lot different earlier in the season and Walker is going to be
a huge piece of their success if they're having success.
Andy Reid is light years ahead in terms of coaching and quarterback understanding than anybody
that even Justin Fields has made eye contact with on his side.
lines in the last five years of his career, okay? It's not even close. So I'm not saying he's
going to resurrect Fields into something special, but you know what? If I was Justin Fields,
that's where I'd want to go. I'd want to go and I want to learn for Patrick Mahomes if I'm serious,
and I want to be with Andy Reid, who's been working with quarterbacks since you go back to
the Green Bay days. It's not all just about the guys who are moving on to other teams.
Sometimes it's those that get left behind while of a sudden have their fantasy values changed by
free agency. And one of those guys is number three on Boone's list. It's Chuba Hubbard of
the Carolina Panthers. So let's talk about Chuba now that RICO has left town. What are your thoughts
on him, Justin? Well, I think we got to remember the context, right? Like early last season,
Chuba Hubbard was the lead back. He got injured. I think he rushed back because he was
worried about getting Wally Pipped because he was out and Rico Doudal was absolutely going off.
And it seemed like when Hubbard came back, he wasn't really the same player. And we've seen
this happen before. Running backs get injuries, not be as efficient the rest of the season. I think that's
what happened to him because you look at this guy two years ago,
2024, he finishes the RB 12 and fantasy points per game and half PPR,
almost 1,200 rushing yards, 43 receptions, 171 receiving yards, 11 touchdowns.
He was great for fantasy that year.
And then last season, they bring in some legit competition.
Now, who's the competition?
Like, Jonathan Brooks, sorry, Jonathan Brooks, maybe, like, we'll see.
He's got a long way to go to come back from these injuries.
But I think right now we're going to go into the.
season with Chuba Hubbard as that guy again.
And if he avoids any sort of injuries, I think he could easily be a top 12, top 15
fantasy back again.
All right.
The next guy on our list, D.
Bro is another one in the same situation.
Travis,
ETN.
That's right.
Still calling him ATN.
I'm not,
not changing.
You had your chance.
Your chance was at the NFL draft when you came into the league to change your name.
That's when everyone changes their name.
Once you go into the draft,
that's it.
You're a Creole boy.
I know.
It's not his fault that people can't speak.
That's not his fault.
You know what?
You gave it off.
Erickson made a great point on the tailgate yesterday, and his point was this.
How come his brother hasn't said this?
Hmm?
Hmm?
Yeah.
Well, his brother was about a fourth round pick.
I don't think his brother wants to be around tin wagon.
The team's like, pronounce my.
So in other words, so every time he signed a big contract now, now next time with
Justin Boone comes on, I have to call him is Justin Boone.
Is that what I have to call him when he comes on the show?
Just because he signed a big contract with Yahoo now.
Please.
He's Justin Boone.
And he's a favorite of this organization.
I did have one of my football coaches back in the day,
Pullapranco, one of my other coaches by telling him that weeks after we had met,
that my name was actually Bune,
and the guy was like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry.
And he kept calling me Bune for like a while after that before we finally told him.
Yes.
I would like to also chime in on the Aetian name thing because I think you got to think
about the Cajun aspect as a, you know, a Canadian who speaks French.
I have been calling him, Travis Etienne,
for a long time.
It's it's A-chan.
A-chan.
That's what it is.
It's not like he says A-chan.
I don't even think it's actually A-chan.
It's A-chan.
It's supposed to be pronounced that way.
It's close to A-chan.
Travis,
it's not quite A-chan.
But yeah.
So let's talk about Bayshel to-in instead.
I truly love about getting people fluent in Kajun.
This is absolutely my wheelhouse.
I love this.
Dude, with Travis
H& gone. Bacial Tootin, it's lift all time, man. And the great thing about this is all the
Chris Rodriguez truthers out there are going to keep his ADP and check the entirety of the offseason
for everybody pushing back. And is there risk here? Absolutely. But you're telling me a guy that I can
draft as a mid to low end RB2. And in that spot, you want upside. You want upside for your team and for
your roster and Tutin has it, man.
Like, is there, is there worries here that this could be the new Seattle backfield?
And Tutin is the new Ken Walker.
And he gets just absolutely just crushed by Rodriguez boltering touchdowns.
Yes, but that risk will be baked into his ADP based off of everything we're hearing,
everybody out the social media streets and fantasy talking about.
There is a Chris Rodriguez hive.
And I'm not saying that it's not deserved.
And yes, we all know that he was with Liam Cohen and Kentucky.
We don't need you to tell us that.
But Bachel Tootin last year when he was given opportunity,
and there was also injury that was part of this.
So yes, we didn't see the essential to Tootin,
but back half of the season,
when we see that from rookies,
he was banged up and out of the lineup.
So can we see that this year?
We want to bet on talented second-year players,
then Tootin is the guy you need to be targeting in drafts.
Looking at what he did last year on a per-touch basis
amongst 55 qualifying running backs,
he was top 12 in rushing success rate,
miss tackle sports per attempt,
and yards are to contact for attempt.
The upside swing you want to take at running back this year is Bachel Tootin,
and I love the fact that they added Chris Rodriguez because it's going to keep his ADP in check throughout the entire of the summer.
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All right, let's go to number two now after that very exciting Bayshall Tutin
because I got some shares myself in the dynasty world.
So I was, and it's funny because I have Travis H.N.
And I also have Bayshalt-Tutin on that same team.
So now I'm loving life.
Now we've separated them out.
Everybody wins.
It's going to be a beautiful thing.
also it could be a beautiful thing for 2026 people who have shares of one omarion Hampton and
Justin Boone I know you want to talk about him so I know this is the guy that's getting a lot
of helium right now in the fantasy community in redraft leagues and dynasty leagues I know
the rookie was a little disappointing with injuries not just his but also the offensive line
so 2026 what makes omarian hampton such a big winner in your mind after free agency is settled
well I mean you look at what he did last season and I think if he didn't get hurt
we would already be viewing him as like a top five fantasy back.
I don't think he even needed to have the great offseason that he's had so far.
Because you look at what he did last year.
RB 16,
he averaged 13.3 fantasy points per game.
Showed a pretty solid fantasy ceiling when he was good,
when he was out there,
double-digit fantasy points in six of his last seven outings,
despite playing behind that like decimated offensive line, right?
They had all the injuries in their offensive line.
He kept producing.
But let's go through the list.
He gets Mike McDaniel now as his office.
Offensive coordinator.
These are things most people know, but let's just make sure it's clear.
Mike McDaniel, great offensive mind, going to be phenomenal for that rushing attack.
And then they bring in Tyler Biatish at center.
They bring in Cole Strange at guard.
They bring in Alec Ingold at fullback.
They bring in Charlie Kohler at tight end.
Like they just completely beefed up on top of the fact that let's hope they're going
to get their two stud tackles back, right?
Let's hope those guys are back and healthy.
This offense is going to be amazing.
This is an offense that you want to invest in.
And Omerian Hampton was drafted to be that guy.
I'm not scared about Keaton Mitchell joining the team because you can have a second back.
You can have that change of pace guy out there.
Keen Mitchell is not a high volume player.
He's somebody that can be a really smart piece on an offense if you use him correctly.
I think Mike McDaniel will use him correctly.
But Omerian Hampton is going to be the workhorse there.
And he is potentially, you don't want to talk about league winners.
I think this is a guy that definitely is going to be a league winner in 2026.
All right. So, Marginhampton, I know Debrough and I are very excited about him as well, which brings us to the number one winner here on the boys list for post-free agency. The guys that now a free agency is done have a clear path to maybe some fantasy expansion going forward in 2020. And I'm going to give you a chance here, Debrough, in case you want to change the number one. I'm not changing. I'm not changing. All right, okay. We're going to talk about it.
one was before the breaking news of Jalen Waddle and all the other stuff. So your number one was
Malik Willis, which I get, you know, yesterday when I was on that show on CBS, Jamie Isberg was talking
about, he's like, look, you know, there are certain quarterbacks that I think are going to be better.
And like Kyler Murray, I think I'd rather have as my quarterback, but in fantasy, I want Malik Willis
because he's just going to run a ton. And I think all we've done now is just solidify the fact that,
yeah, he is going to run and run some more and run some more. And it's Devon H. And it's
going to be Malik Willis. And I'm sure they will draft a wide receiver with one of these many
picks that they have now and they have a bunch of them. So I'm not too concerned, but we are in that
weird in between. So talk to me about your thoughts on what Malik Willis is now in his first run really
as a starter after a couple years in Green Bay sitting back and kind of improving his game and
developing. Well, first of all, with the Waddle News breaking, we have to talk about the depth chart and
stuff. Greg Dolsich, I think, is a serviceable pass catcher. And I'm not hanging all my hopes on him.
but now we're discussing a team that we look at the depth charts as currently composed.
Well, they're not a finished product.
The NFL draft is coming.
And this team has, oh, let's see here now.
Two first round picks, a second round pick, and now they have four thirds.
They're drafting past catchers in this draft.
And we talk about what's the strength and the skill set standpoint from a fantasy angle?
It's not the quarterbacks of this draft.
It's not the running backs.
It's not the tight ends.
Oh, that's right.
It's the wide receivers.
So they probably draft a guy in the first round.
Denzel Boston, come on down to Miami.
Love it.
Take them in the back into the first round.
Spin your second round pick on a wide receiver or one of these thirds.
Go get Ted Hurst, Chris Brasel, or Bryce Lance.
And we're off to the races, dude.
You got speed and they have past catchers.
I think they're going to address this.
And so I'm not worried about it.
If anything, right now, if you're doing early best ball drafts or in Dynasty
leagues or what have you,
Malik Willis, the cost is going to be suppressed as a QB2 because of all these worries.
The offensive line is solid.
I'm not telling you it's top 12, but it is solid.
They played really good last year.
They're young.
I think it's going to be workable again this year.
And now we haven't even discussed Malik Willis's rushing upside.
Over the last two years, like this guy has given us rushing equity when he's been starting.
Six games started.
He's averaged 44.8 rushing yards per game.
over the last three seasons amongst quarterbacks, that would have ranked first, fourth, and third.
So we're expecting top five Russian production, okay, giddy up.
And then you add that to the passing prowess, and I know we have a small sample.
But Malik Willis, over the last two years, he has 118 dropbacks, 89 passing attempts.
On those attempts, 5.6% big time throw rate.
Last year amongst all the quarterbacks released 110 dropbacks.
that would have been eighth best right ahead of Caleb Williams.
His 10.9 yards per attempt over the last two years,
that would rank first amongst quarterbacks.
And am I projecting he's going to be a top 12 NFL passer?
No, but this all goes back to, can he be serviceable
and the rushing equity carried the day for Malik Willis?
Absolutely.
So if that's the case, and he runs, they add pass catchers in the draft.
how is he not if he stays healthy a top 12 fantasy quarterback on a points per game basis
and you're drafting him a QB2 how is he not guys we've seen worse quarterbacks with rushing
ability finish as a QB1 in fantasy so he definitely can do that I have some concerns about like
his dynasty value and whether he's going to remain a starter like I know a lot of people are looking at it
and going oh we've seen a bunch of backup quarterbacks get another opportunity and you know
whether it was Sam Darnel or these other guys,
get the opportunity, excel in it,
and then be the real long-term option for their team moving forward.
I don't know that Wilson is going to be that guy,
but that doesn't matter.
We're looking at him for fantasy and D-Bro hit the nail on the head.
That for fantasy, it doesn't matter what past catchers are, to be honest,
because of the rushing ability,
he is going to be out there and be somebody that you can consider starting.
It's funny.
I almost imagine him going in Dynasty leagues this offseason
from the guy that he was like,
oh, yeah, I want to acquire Malik Willis.
Let's all get on that.
Willis trade and now they have people who require them going, oh, no, what's happening here?
There's nothing around him.
It's all falling apart.
I wonder if you could actually, if you missed out on that round one buy of Malik Willis,
maybe you could buy that round two.
Like, or if somebody was holding him for hostage, like, no, no, no, I'm very excited about
Malik Willis.
Maybe just maybe this is a second chance for you to buy him in Dynasty if you want.
All right.
Number one on Justin Boone's list.
No more anticipation.
No more waiting.
Justin Boone, who do you have?
I will say, I was surprised that this guy had as good of a season.
as he had. It didn't really seem like it in the moment. Ashton Genty for the Raiders,
just a nightmare first season in terms of the offensive coordinator change and the
offensive line issues and the quarterback struggles around him. And at the end of the year,
you look and he had over 1,300 scrimmage yards. He had 10 total touchdowns,
was the RB 17 in fantasy points per game and half PPR. And now you go, okay,
they're improving on the offensive line. They're bringing in Clint Kubiak, who I think we all
have a lot of faith in in terms of, you know, what he can do as a play caller there.
They're going to figure out the quarterback situation.
They're going to draft a quarterback likely for Nana Mendoza number one overall.
So what's going to happen this year when all of a sudden the environment around him improves?
If he was able to produce like that last season, now you're going to have a much better environment.
To me, that just boils down to a very high-end fantasy campaign and a guy who's going to have
a shot to be potentially like top two, top three fantasy running back at the end of the year.
All right. So there you have it, everybody. That's the top 10 here for Justin Boone and Derek Brown are the guys that they think Free Agency has really up their fantasy value. Some guys just by addition by subtraction. Some guys addition to new teams that could improve their fantasy stock. What do you think? We'd like to hear from you. Drop your comments below on the YouTube channel. What's your favorite player from Free Agency that has really now changed their value on the positive swing for you after Free Agency is now over?
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Well earned.
We're all very excited when you were over from the score to Yahoo.
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Thanks for hanging out with us today.
We appreciate you.
I appreciate you guys.
I reciprocate that love.
It's always fun hanging out.
and talking to you.
And yeah, I will say right after the season,
it didn't take long.
My wife mentioned she goes,
I know what you're going to do next year.
You're going to get yourself fired up
and try to repeat.
That's going to be the motivation.
And she's probably right.
That will be the fire under me next season.
And you nailed it there too.
Yeah.
This is the man she married.
She had to know what you were.
We knew we could have warned her,
but she didn't ask us.
Otherwise, we'd have told her run.
Run for the hills away from that wonderful man.
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Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.
Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite.
Unhumor me with Robert Smigel and Friends.
Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman helped make you.
you funnier. This week, my guest,
SNL's Mikey Day and head writer
Streeter Seidel, help an
Acapella band with their between songs
banter. Where does your group perform?
We do some retirement homes. Those people
are starving for banter. Listen to
humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the
IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas.
And I'm CJ Toledano. It's our favorite
time of the year on our podcast point game,
The Playoffs. We're digging into the biggest
surprises of the season. And I'm looking back on
some of my greatest playoff moments.
If we didn't talk ever again, I was crying.
You just understood.
That's how personal it got.
Wow.
Then after that game seven, Marquis come in, he's like, you know, I love you, dog.
You know, it's all love.
This was just playoffs.
This was just basketball.
So listen to Point Game on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your
podcasts.
Hey, it's Edwin Castro, also known as Castro 1021.
And I'm Kunky, his best friend and business manager.
And we've got a new show called The 1020.
21 podcast.
I'm taking you behind the scenes on how I became one of Twitch's most popular streamers.
We also love sports.
And with the World Cup right around the corner, we'll be breaking down the biggest storylines ahead of the big tournament here in the USA.
Listen to the 1021 podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
This is an IHeart podcast.
Guaranteed human.
