The Herd with Colin Cowherd - FantasyPros - Joe Burrow or Jayden Daniels at 1.03? | Superflex PPR Mock Draft (Ep. 1582)

Episode Date: June 3, 2025

Join Joe Pisapia, Pat Fitzmaurice, Andrew Erickson, and Jake Ciely as they take part in a Superflex PPR Mock Draft to help you get set for your upcoming drafts! Timestamps: (May be off due to ads) Int...ro - 0:00:00 Round 1 - 0:02:38 Round 2 - 0:05:18 Round 3 - 0:08:23 Round 4 - 0:10:59 Round 5 - 0:14:29 DraftKings Sportsbook - 0:15:10 Round 6 - 0:19:23 Round 7 - 0:22:22 Microsoft Challenger Segment - 0:23:40 Round 8 - 0:26:27 FantasyPros Draft Wizard - 0:30:35 Round 9 - 0:31:09 Round 10 - 0:33:49 Signed George Pickens Jersey Giveaway - 0:36:37 Round 11 - 0:39:21 Round 12 - 0:42:08 Round 13 - 0:45:23 Round 14 - 0:48:10 Draft Breakdown and Analysis - 0:51:30 Outro - 1:01:56 Helpful Links: DraftKings Pick6 – Download the DraftKings Pick6 app NOW on Google Play or the App Store and use code FANTASYPROS. This offer is for new customers to play $5, get $50 in Pick6 credits. Only on DraftKings Pick6. The crown is yours.  Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. Help is available for problem gambling. Call 888-789-7777, or visit ccpg.org in Connecticut. Must be eighteen plus, age and eligibility restrictions vary by jurisdiction. Pick6 not available everywhere, including New York and Ontario. Void where prohibited. One per new customer. Bonus awarded as non-withdrawable Pick6 Credits that expire in thirty days. Limited time offer. See terms at https://pick6.draftkings.com/promos. Dynasty Rookie Draft Simulator - Our Dynasty Rookie Draft Simulator lets you complete a mock in minutes with no waiting between picks! Customize your league settings to match your league’s exact format. Premium subscribers can test trade scenarios by mocking with their traded draft picks. Prepare for rookie drafts AND dynasty startup drafts in one place! Use the Dynasty Rookie Draft Simulator to dominate your rookie draft today at fantasypros.com/simulator! Discord - Join our FantasyPros Discord Community! Chat with other fans and get access to exclusive AMAs that wind up on our podcast feed. Come get your questions answered and BE ON THE SHOW at fantasypros.com/chat Leave a Review – If you enjoy our show and find our insight to be valuable, we’d love to hear from you! Your reviews fuel our passion and help us tailor content specifically for YOU. Head to Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever else you get your podcasts and leave an honest review. Let’s make this show the ultimate destination for fantasy football enthusiasts like us. Thank you for watching and for showing your support – https://fantasypros.com/review/ BettingPros Podcast – For advice on the best picks and props across both the NFL and college football each and every week, check out the BettingPros Podcast at bettingpros.com/podcast, our BettingPros YouTube channel at youtube.com/bettingpros, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Microsoft AI⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ -⁠⁠⁠  Microsoft’s AI solutions empower you to take bold steps and make informed decisions, sparking new ideas to help drive your business forward. With Microsoft as your trusted partner, you can navigate your journey with confidence, finding innovative solutions and reaching new possibilities. Visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠microsoft.com/challengers⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to learn more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas.
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Starting point is 00:00:26 Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you. you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Welcome in everybody to Fantasy Pros. This is the Fantasy Football podcast. It is me Joey P, Joe Pza Pia, and today you've been asking for it. And of course, we're going to give it to you.
Starting point is 00:00:43 We're going to give you the Superflex mock draft, the first one of the 2025 season. People have been begging for this. I get all these messages, when you get into the Superflex. I said, just be patient. We've got one recording with some of my favorite people. Pat Fitzmorest, my Patty Cakes, The Undertaker, Andrew, Eric. from the athletic, Jake Sealy, no fun nicknames, but he does have a fun shirt on today. Anything South Park slash Mario Luigi oriented, I am a big supporter of.
Starting point is 00:01:10 So today, we've got a half point PPR mock draft for you. I'll be drafting from the one spot because it's just a lot easier for me to host and do that. Also, we have, let's see, Jake is going to be all the way at number five. We've got Erickson at the 109 pick and pulling up the double-due. duty down at the back end of the draft, Pat Fitzmorest. So we've got some fun team names too. You can have the team name generator. Andrew Erickson.
Starting point is 00:01:37 I know that's a fun thing. Did you use the generator or did you come up with your own team name today? I use the generator. I am not nearly creative enough. I used to try to come up with a bunch of really unique names, but now that we have this thing on Fantasy Bros. This great tool, I don't have to think about it anymore. I just plug in my favorite player on my team, Drake May.
Starting point is 00:01:55 And then it pops out the top 10 best fantasy football team names. And that's how I landed on. It's going to be May. even though it's June. It's always May. I mean, Drop Trek May and June. All right, Fitsy, I like your team name. Fits nicely.
Starting point is 00:02:07 That just is a good general just note, I think. So again, I assume that you just created your own today. I did. Well, I had like five seconds before we started, so I couldn't think of a clever player name Pond Joe. Just did a pun on my own. Because the Man of a Thousand Toys opening up a KD somewhere near you, Toys are Us Sealy.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Teenage Mutant Injig. turtles. I kind of like that. You're playing off the misspelling of the word ninja for those of you who weren't smart enough to figure that out. Kind of figure that out. Yeah. Well, first I want to go back to Andrew. If you're going to take that team name,
Starting point is 00:02:43 you can't do it and not go. It's got to be me. Like, you have to do it. You can't just say the name. It looks like a boy band guy. So Eric, he does. Give us one time, one time. Yes. It's going to be me. Very good. Okay. That's better. That's better. My team
Starting point is 00:02:59 name from the one spot. I created this one on my own. Dig says, don't take it all, which is good advice from Stefan Diggs whenever you're on a boat. So we are going to go through here. We've got a flex. We've got a super flex. And we're going to kick things off. I have the number one pick. I am starting with Lamar Jackson. He is my number one QB on the board. I have a theory here. I'm going to try to see if I can make it work when it comes back to me at the two three turn. Josh Allen goes second at the 102, then Joe Burrow 103. Jaden Daniels to 104. Interesting. I thought Daniels would have gone three. Burrow looking for a huge season potentially here. And as you can see, we're using our draft software. Go out there right now. Download draft
Starting point is 00:03:37 wizard. Start getting ready for your mock drafts. All right. 105. You are on the clock. Seeley. What do you do it? Yeah, I was actually expecting to have to make the decision between Joe Burrow and the first non-quarterback player. So the fact that Burrow went four, or no, wait, three, as you mentioned. I'm just going to take Jalen Hertz. The Tush Bush didn't get banned. I'm all for Jailen. Hertz. To go back to your previous comment, though, I would actually go Jackson. I'd go Daniels at two just because of the rushing upside. Like, we're chasing rushing in fantasy. So that's why Hertz at five. That's why I picked the five spot too, because I figured if one quarterback didn't end up going in the top five, I easily would have got one of the top four.
Starting point is 00:04:14 And then it ended up not being a running back at wire receiver that made that for me. It was actually the fact that Joe Burrow went. So it worked out perfectly. See, if you've got the opportunity to pick your own draft spot this year and Superflex 105 seems to be the perfect spot. Thanks, Jake Sealy. Also, make sure you're subscribing to the YouTube channel because Jake and I have a little Super Flex short coming out, too, about some strategies.
Starting point is 00:04:34 He and I are the Superflex guys around these parts. So make sure you subscribe to the channel. Ring the bell to close. Ding. Multi-time flex winner, Joe Bezapia. That's right. Multi-time Expert League, two-time champion and one-time tie champion.
Starting point is 00:04:48 So he's got two and a half. Two and a half. Thanks, COVID. That's COVID. Sharing it with Adam Ronan. which is pretty fine. I'll do that. Jamar Chase goes, the first position player off the board at 106. That certainly works for me.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Baker Mayfield goes at 107. Patrick Mahomes at 108. So, Erickson, it's half-PPR. You're going to pivot away from the QBs, the way the board looks right now? Yes, I am. I feel like I'm reaching a little bit here if I go with a quarterback where I think that we've gone away from the elite tier. So I just took the number one running back
Starting point is 00:05:21 and the guy who could lead all fantasy guys in terms of points score, B. John Robinson. So that's my guy. That's a pretty easy selection there at 109. Kyler Murray at 110, 111, Bo Nix. So Fitz, when you're drafting at the turn of the Superflex, you're going to obviously miss out on the elite quarterbacks. The question is, do you dip your toes into the quarterback well, or do you just try to hope that you could patch it together with a couple QB2s? Because the incredible value that makes it down to you, you could put together two of the best players in football.
Starting point is 00:05:49 And it looks like that is the strategy you are going for with double tapping wide receiver, Justin Jefferson and C. Lamb here with your first two. Yeah, I'm going to walk the second path you mentioned, Joe, the S-Q quarterbacks at the turn. Just like if there was value there, I'd be willing to do it. I might have been willing to grab Patrick Mahomes there. Maybe, maybe Baker Mayfield or Boe Nix, but probably not. Just like this is the opportunity to get two top level non-quarterbacks. And so I'm going to double-tap receiver with Justin Jefferson and C.D. Lamb right here. All right, not bad. So before we get to Erickson, two more quarterbacks did go off the board.
Starting point is 00:06:29 So Jared Goff goes, Dak Prescott went as well. So now Team 11 and Team 10 both have their quarterbacks and why you want to use the draft software is because, again, it's going to give you all those insights, let you know the pick predictor is going to let you know the probability of a player who's going to get drafted or not potentially before it makes it back to you. That's why you use the tools. Again, pick predictors is one of the great ones I use it. sync your leagues for free. I'm telling you, this is the way to go for all of your drafts. If you've never used the software before, do it. I remember the first time I used it, it blew my mind.
Starting point is 00:07:01 And I actually worked here for almost a year before I really was like, all right, let me use it in this draft that I've got there. And it made a huge impact. And I've never gone back since. So again, let's continue on. Erickson, you also have said, nay to the quarterback in Superflex. So I feel like you and Fittsie are going to be mud wrestling for QBs when we get to the third and fourth round. you go for your second pick? I took my second rank back, Jamir Gibbs.
Starting point is 00:07:26 So Fitsy went with the double receiver approach. I went with the double running back approach. We both have top three at the position. So hopefully we can make up ground later in the draft with some values at quarterback. I do wish that this was full PPR and not half PPR if I'm going to be punting quarterback. So I don't love this strategy necessarily, but we'll see if I can maybe scoop up some quarterback value a little bit later on. We'll see how the draft goes.
Starting point is 00:07:47 It's why we do these drafts to practice different strategies. That's right. Look, you wish for a lot of things. going to make it true. I wish I had more hair. I don't. So these are things we have to live with in life. Sequan Barkley goes next at 205. Then Herbert at 206, Justin Fields goes next. Jake, you're on the clock for your next picture. We'll talk about your next selection here, which is Caleb Williams at the 208. So Jake, you've gone back to back QB, so you're not playing around here. Mostly because I ended up getting my second quarterback being top 10. I do have Caleb Williams
Starting point is 00:08:20 as QB 10. Some people will differ on that. But I was able to get. get two and the way that the board was fallen and knowing I had about 10 picks, not had about, I had 10 picks before I came back around and knowing likely that Brock Purdy or one of the others that were left over in that tier with Caleb Williams were probably coming off the board. That's why I went in that direction to just kind of lock it in and now kind of have the advantage at quarterback over everybody else in my opinion. Well, one can only hope that eventually Drake May will find his way to his team namesake at Andrew Erickson soon.
Starting point is 00:08:48 After Caleb Williams goes Ashen Gentia 209, then the wide receiver run, Puka and Akua Amon St. Brown and then the end of the second round. Brian Thomas to me, and then I turn around and took Derek Henry. Now, this is a strategy I employed last year in Superflex. Flex League, which is the expert league Jake Sealy runs with the best and brightest minds and fantasy football. And Derek Brown is also in that league. And you? No, no, I'm a champion in that league. Just multi-time champion. Let's just put that out there. But this is the half point PPR Superflex strategy of controlling all the scoring in offense. And this is an elite offensive ecosystem. If you want to understand the ecosystem, go get a blackbook, just available right now on Amazon. You can check it out. Erickson,
Starting point is 00:09:32 me, D. Bro, all of us writing for that bad boy. But I've got Lamar Jackson. I've got Derek Henry. I'm basically controlling all the touchdown equity in that offense on a weekly basis. And now I have a wide receiver one. So that's the approach I'm taking. I love the way this worked out last year. And that's how I'm going back there again. AJ Brown 302, then Malik neighbors at 303, Brock Purdy at 304. And then, of course, the next. one, you've got Nico Collins at 305. So Jake, back-to-back quarterbacks for you to start and then Nico Collins, how do you feel about this build?
Starting point is 00:10:01 I like it. I would have preferred Malik Neighbors if he would have made it two picks to me. And then, of course, I like your strategy of the running backs. But at this point, you know this as much as anybody in Superflex. That's the one position. You know how much I love taking running backs. It's the one position in Superflex where I'm willing to wait more because those are the ones that seem of all the positions to fall the furthest when you're Superflex because that position
Starting point is 00:10:22 is tied up. Now with a quarterback, running back seemed to be the ones that it's like, oh, wow, I can't believe he's still there in round five, six, seven. And I find that's where the value is, though I do love your start of being able to control the touchdowns on the Ravens offense. Yeah. And look, this is why I also took Lamar because I thought Derek Henry would be making it back to me.
Starting point is 00:10:39 And I love that pairing. You know, when he started looking for James Cook, it could be anywhere. I think that ADP of Henry, like, after it gets in the third round, it's really tough to see him lasting more than 303 or 304 in any draft. So after Nico, Christian McCaffrey finally off the board at 306. Interesting build there, Jamar, Fields, and McCaffrey. I love how early Fields went. This must be the Derek Brown bot we're drafting with today.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Devon, 8,000 at 307, Trevor Lawrence at 308. And Erickson, you did it, baby. How does it feel to have Drake May at 309? Feels great, because I knew that he wasn't going to get past fit. So that's why I had to think Drake May. So I know that I got a little of a notification that said 71% chance that he was going to be available, but I know better because I know fits. I know that he also loves Drake May.
Starting point is 00:11:23 So I could not let him slide past. So I had to get my first quarterback with Drake May who fits my team perfectly. Brock Bowers goes next at 310 and then 311, Drake London. All right, Fancy, you broke down. You did take a quarterback and another wide receiver. My God, what a wide receiver room you're building. Jefferson, Lamb and McConkey. And then you have Jordan Love.
Starting point is 00:11:42 So let's talk about the love-hate relationship you have with Jordan here as your quarterback of the Packers and now a quarterback on your Superflex team. slightly disappointing 2024 season for Jordan Love. He had the sprained MCL that cost him time early in the season.
Starting point is 00:11:57 And then the Packers were just really run heavy after Love came back. I mean, for the whole season, I believe the Packers were the third run heaviest team in the league.
Starting point is 00:12:07 But part of that was just the paucity of wide receivers they had. I mean, like Christian Watson now going to be out for the season, wasn't having a good year, Dantean Wix,
Starting point is 00:12:19 Romeo Dubs. those guys were not having great years either. So they went out and drafted Matthew Golden in the first round, got Savianne Williams later on, who's a really intriguing, physically gifted player. So hopefully this is a boom year and the Packers aren't quite as run heavy as they were in 2024. All right. So we'll see, hopefully a little more throwing for the Packers this season. And I absolutely would have taken Drake May, by the way.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Let the record show. I, Pat Fitzmorest, Morris, would have taken. Drake May. Bucky Irvin goes next at 402, then Josh Jacobs at 403. Look at you. Everything's coming up Millhouse for Andrew Erickson in this draft. C.J. Stroud, last year drafted as a QB1, now being drafted as a QB2. So May Stroud, Gibbs, and Beijon. Very nice here, Andrew Erickson. I like what you've done with the place. Yeah, that was, CJ Stroud is one of my quarterback sleepers this year because he's going so late in drafts that he can be kind of qualified as a sleeper compared to last year. And I think that the Texas
Starting point is 00:13:19 just, I think their offensive lines are going to be much better, even though the personnel is completely different. I think that the new coaching staff coming in, I think it's just going to help fix a lot of the problems. I think you're going to see CJ Stroud just rip it with some of these receivers of Nico with the new rookies. I'm really excited. I think that he's going to be a value. All right. So looking for value all over the place. C.J. Strout off the board, Jonathan Taylor goes next. Trey McBride, then James Cook. So Cook will ask it all the way to the middle of the fourth round. All right. Let's get to Jake. selection here. Oh, look at you. Another namesick selection. Jackson Smith and Jigma. Now, did you do that just to
Starting point is 00:13:55 stay on brand? Or do you really like the player at that value? Be honest. Don't lie to me. Well, both. Honestly. The tie break was the fact that I'll let you talk about, you took the running back that I wanted to take there. I wanted to get that for the option. I still believe that is a top 10 running back. But because of the name saying, come on, yeah, tiebreaker. I'll go with Jackson Smith and Jig, but I do think is a top 11, 12 wide receiver. I don't think much is going to change that with Sam Darnold, although I could see Cooper Cup having a rebound season, maybe if he stays healthy, but I still think Smith and Jigba is ascending and potentially could even that conversation for Nico Collins, Malik neighbors tier of the world where he's top five, six. I think that's in play. I would agree.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Volume certainly is not going to be a problem. The offensive line, however, that could be an issue. So we'll see how things, yeah, well, you know, if Sam Darnold isn't upright, it's kind of hard to throw the football. But certainly volume will be a, a bunch of. for JSN this year. T. Higgins, the Robin to the Batman of Jamar Chase, goes a 409, then Chase all the Bengals going here.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Matthew Stafford made it to 411. Almost to me, I probably would have taken Stafford over the guy I took, which is J.J. McCarthy. I believe, you know, call me crazy. I believe in Joe Hendry. I believe in J.J. McCarthy. I believe in things.
Starting point is 00:15:11 And I just look at this upside here. I know he missed a year of football. I know that's problematic. but I think what you saw from Kevin O'Connell what he got out of Sam Darnold last year, talking about blood from a stone. I'm very optimistic about what J.J. McCarthy's rookie season is going to be, especially with the pieces around him. And then because it's half PPR, I decided to control once again, you know, get some more
Starting point is 00:15:32 touches. And I don't know this ain't been more consistent than Kyron Williams. We keep waiting for something to go haywire there, but I don't see competition for him. I really don't. And Karen Williams, to me, is still the guy. Let's take a quick break in the action here as we are. letting everyone assess their rosters and remind you that it's NBA finals time. That's right, except for all of you Nick fans.
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Starting point is 00:19:15 And for more, follow Timbo Slic Life 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Let's continue on and pick some more players here for our upcoming Superflex draft here. So after Karen Williams goes off the board, Breece Hall at 502, I was going back and forward. They decided to take the running back in the better ecosystem, which is the Rams. I'd like where the Jets direction is going, but I'm a little bit more comfortable with the Rams. It sounds simplistic, Jake, but just the notion of, you know, when you're between a couple of players, is taking the guy in the better offensive universe. Doesn't that seem like just the thing that we overlook constantly trying to be the smartest
Starting point is 00:19:52 folks in the room sometimes where it's, hey, take the player on the good team, stupid? Well, if also you're going to be talking fancy pros and the late great Mike Taglier wrote the article about that, about how hard it is to find a top five running back and a bottom five offense, let alone top 10. So you're right. Anytime you go down this road of saying like, hey, I'm trying to figure out the toss up. one of the tie breaks has to be who's the better offense who's going to be a top 10 offense and that's the answer it's a simplistic very simple answer simple's good tyree kill 503 followed by garret wilson at 504 the guy that i was going to take possibly uh jake of course took which is terro mclorna at 505 that's a tremendous value was your third wide receiver jake yeah that's really why i took it i hate the fact that i don't have a running back yet yet but i just talked earlier that that that's the one position i could see falling and having some value like i'm looking at some of the names right now and i'm like no i'm not going to have a clear top 10 RB1, but I'll be able to have two guys that fill in when Terry McLaurene's my number
Starting point is 00:20:48 three wide receiver. I can live with it, not to mention the fact they already got the leg up with the top 10 two quarterbacks. So I think I'm in a good position here. Well, I think it now becomes our mission to make sure we take as many running backs away from you as you can, correct? Andrew Fitts. Are you on board with this? I certainly hope so. All right, let's go on with the guys picks here, see where we're at. DeVante Adams goes next at 506. Mike Evans at 507, courtlet Sutton, big wide receiver run. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, seven being Andrew Erickson's selection of Marvin Harrison Jr. at 509.
Starting point is 00:21:21 So my goodness, all the wide receivers are gone. And I'm wishing that maybe I, maybe I had taken another wide receiver there and wait on running backs like Jake. But now I'm going to have to scramble a little bit. Erickson, let's talk about Marvin Harrison. Yeah, I think that he's a logical second year wide receiver breakout. Not everybody breaks out in their first year. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:21:40 And when he was in a class with such elite talents like the neighbors, like Brian Thomas, like Latmakonki, it makes his rookie year, I think, seem even that much worse. But in comparison to normal rookie seasons, I think that it was okay for Marvin Harris and Jr. I think that if him and Kyler can build off what worked in year one and then go away from what didn't work in year one, and Marvin Harrison Jr. can just break some tackles. I mean, he's all rocked up now. He's got the superflex biceps going. Maybe break a couple more tackles. And I think that's going to do well. I think that it's the, I think it's pointing up for him in year two.
Starting point is 00:22:12 So I like getting him here. Talk about Superflex. Geez, yeah. D.K. McCaff goes 510 and then DJ Moore 511. Fitsy, let's talk about your two picks. You went RB and QB. Yeah, needed to address running back. I'd kick that canned on the road for a while.
Starting point is 00:22:25 So went with Joe Mixen, who just seems to produce whatever the circumstances, bad offensive line in Houston last year, still produced, when healthy. So went with him and then needed to get a second quarterback. Went with two. Tungaviloa, the guy who did lead the league in passing yardage in 2023. If he's healthier, maybe things look a little different for him this year than they did in 2024. All right. Continuing on here, after those selections have been made, let's go to the next part of the draft board. Now we are officially in round six with Fitsy's selection. So Ken Walker, 602,
Starting point is 00:23:00 Rushi Rice at 603. You went tight end next here, Andrew Erickson. Let's talk about George Kittle at this spot. How do you feel? George, I couldn't pass up on George Kittle here. It's half PPR. We know he can put up monster weeks with the touchdown upside that he has. In terms of points per game, nobody was better than him in half PPR at tight end than George Kittle was last year. So getting him so many rounds after McBride, after Brock Bowers, I need a wide receiver really badly on this team, but I just couldn't pass on George Kittle in the half PPR where, I mean, I think that he could again be the highest scoring player at the position in points per game. Okay. Next. Next. up Zay Flowers, Devontas Smith, Bryce Young.
Starting point is 00:23:39 And then we land on Jake Seeley for 608, which is Alvin Camara. Jake, I'll pause the draft for. Oh, you'll give major pick. What a professional. You know, they say things about you, Jake. And most of them are correct. But the fact that you can't multitask, that is, that is wrong. So Alvin Camara, 608.
Starting point is 00:23:57 You made that selection here. He is your first RB. Probably the worst potential offense in the NFL. I think we'd agree on that. But. But probably also the only weapon that you can count on in that offense. So although there's limitations, once again, this is more of a volume play here with Alvin Camara.
Starting point is 00:24:16 And it's not like the offense was that great last year. And Al Camara was still top 12 and fancy points per game. So like Alvin Camara until he, like, I know he missed some games and we're getting to that point of like what does he have left. But until he completely falls to the wayside, we're talking about Devin Neal and Kendra Miller behind him. It's not like he's got world beaters. they're like, oh, they're going to take the touches from them, similar to your argument with
Starting point is 00:24:37 Kairn Williams. And I actually think Kairn Williams, I agree with you on Williams. I'm just saying I think Kairn has more of a threat behind them than Alvin Kamaer does. Nobody's taking Alvin Kamaher's jobs or touches, job, singular. But I just think that, you know, this is what I was talking about before. We're in rounds five, six. And Kamara is my first running back. I don't love him being my first running back, but the fact that he's round six with three
Starting point is 00:24:59 massive wide receivers and two great quarterbacks, I'll do this all day long. Okay, all day, son, all day in the words of Schmidt from New Girl. Let's go on. Ted McMillan goes at 609. I love Schmidt. Schmidt is amazing. 610, 611 after Richardson goes, Chuba Hubbard at 611. Then I doubled up on wide receiver because while that run was just unbelievable,
Starting point is 00:25:24 10 of the, was it 10 of the 12 picks in that round? No, nine of the 12 in round five. But 7.01 is an amazing value. That's insane. What? For you, yes. Yeah, no, it is. I mean, it's coming off an injury, so that's why I'm getting the value there.
Starting point is 00:25:38 But Worthy and Godwin, I'll take it and see how it goes. It's not my ideal situation. I can tell you that right now. But just sometimes these runs happen, you've got to pivot off of it. When you look after Chris Godwin, Sam Laporte at 702, Marian Hampton, 703, Pacheco at 704, here we go. We're in the running back room now, and Jake Sealy is walking out with James Connor at 705. I am taking the aim.
Starting point is 00:26:03 and work of running backs and saying, I'm going to stare you dead in the face and probably drive off the bridge as I finished the Fast and Furious series. I don't know what's going to happen at this point. But look, James Connor also, while healthy, every time he's been on the field, I mean, we're still talking top 10 production. Do I probably need to worry about a third running back up coming between the two of them? Yes, because I'm going to lose one, if not both at some point. But James Connor and Alvin Camara, while on the field, I know I'll be getting fringe at least RB1 production. But it's round seven, so I'm okay with it. But it's round seven, so that's fine. Also, that brings us to today's chasing challengers segment brought to you
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Starting point is 00:27:20 But everyone's another year older. Guys like James Connor and Alvin Kamara are too. So as Jake Seeley in this draft is going to keep his fingers crossed and light a candle in church and hope that everyone, everybody stays healthy in 2025. Luckily, the good news is the solution is probably to get some of these young RBs from this draft class who are very good to at least hedge your bets. Maybe they won't be starters in week one or month one, but by the end of the season, you hope the Amari and Hamptons of the world and guys like Caleb Johnson can all get out there and start
Starting point is 00:27:49 to make their impact and fantasy because this class was extraordinary for RB and we haven't had a really solid one like this in quite some time. So let's make sure that you get some pieces of that rookie running. back class. That's it for this week's chasing challengers. Remember Microsoft's AI solutions empower you to take bold steps and new ideas to help drive your business forward with Microsoft as your trusted partner. You can navigate your journey with confidence, finding innovative solutions, and reaching new possibilities. Visit Microsoft.com slash challengers to learn more. All right, let's get back into the draft, gentlemen, and let's see where we are at after Connor.
Starting point is 00:28:24 David Montgomery, pretty good value there, 706 and a half PPR. George Pickens at 707.7. then Jameson Williams at 708. Erickson, you had a lot of Microsoft read to think about your pick. So let's go. Who are you selecting here with your next pick at 709? I think I spent more time trying to figure out how to get back at Team 8 because I wanted to draft Jameson Williams because my team really needs wide receiver bodies.
Starting point is 00:28:48 I'm going to have to go out there if I can't fill my wide receiver three spot very quickly here. But I'm not going to draft a receiver here. I am actually going to draft another running back because like you said in the segment, we got a lot of talented rookie running backs. And one of the things that I have to make sure I do in every draft this year is I got to get at least some exposure to some of these rookie running backs
Starting point is 00:29:07 because these guys win leagues the second half of season. So I'm going to go with a Derek Brown favorite, Mr. RJ Harvey. Oh, there you go. RJ Harvey, 709. Travis Hunter goes right after another rookie back to back there. Calvin Ridley is 7-11, which brings us to Pat Fitzmorest for the last pick in the seventh and the first pick of the eighth round. Fitsy, what do you have on tap for us?
Starting point is 00:29:30 I would have loved R.J. Harvey. That would have been my choice. But so I'm going to take a different rookie running back on the turn here with Caleb Johnson. And the more I think about it, the more excited I am about his outlook. Just Pittsburgh is going to be a running team, whether it's Aaron Rogers or someone else, a quarterback. I think they are incentivized to be run heavy. They've got a defense that's going to keep them and run-friendly game scripts. And look, Jalen Warren is pretty good. limited role. It gets her a lot, though, and we know I think that Caleb Johnson is going to have
Starting point is 00:30:02 the majority of the early downwork for Pittsburgh. So I'm going to take him, and then I'm going to take Travis Kelsey, who, yeah, I know he's not vintage Travis Kelsey, but he did have 97 catches last year, even sitting out the final game of the season. So while I'm not expecting him to be the overall tight end one, I am expecting him to be a top 10 tight end again, if not top five. Does your Caleb Johnson love change one way or another if the quarterback becomes, let's say, Aaron Rogers in the next, I don't know, month or so? I mean, I think I'll like it more if it's Aaron Rogers. The only thing that might be a downer for Caleb Johnson if Rogers comes aboard is that Rogers does like to throw when he's inside the five-yard line. Might take a few touchdowns away, but I think it bodes well overall for the Pittsburgh offense if he does sign.
Starting point is 00:30:54 That's a really good point. All right. Let's continue on here after Johnson, Tony Pollard, Quinchon Judkins, and then Erickson, sometimes, you know, you just keep going down to the well and is one well that Erickson loves to go down. It's the Jalen Wada one. So last year, tried to buy back in.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Did not work out. He ended up his wide receiver 46. Why will 2025 be different? Two great seasons from Waddle, two less than great seasons. So what does 2025 look like to you? It looks more like his first two years. in the NFL than his last two years in the NFL? I think that Waddle has shown, at least at the end of last year when he was a little bit
Starting point is 00:31:31 healthier, he did show out the last couple games. Tua, we'll see what his health looks like. But I don't know, I guess I'm more down on Tyree Kill being the alpha of this passing game and Waddle potentially stepping out. I don't think that Waddle has lost his talent. He's a first-round pick for a reason. He's shown that he can produce in the NFL level in different ways, whether it's through volume as a rookie, whether it's through absurd efficiency as he did his second season.
Starting point is 00:31:53 So I'm just not willing to bury a guy who I think believe is like 26 years old who's been an all pro wide receiver. So I like buying the dip here on J.N. LaWattle, especially because my team needs wide receivers. All right. My cue just got absolutely obliterated in this round. So I'm going to have to figure out something here. Did you not see my face when my pick came up? I was like, man, I have trying to choose four players. Well, unfortunately, it was right after, well, you picked one of them and then the rest went haywire. Aaron Jones 805, Ramondrey at 806, Brana Yuc, then at 807. Seeley, you took Mark Andrews at 808, which I thought,
Starting point is 00:32:29 you know, we'll leak at the wide receiver. Why not just take all the Ravens? And that way I'll have all of the guys. Maybe I'll take likely with my last pick just to irritate you. But 808, seriously, as bad as Mark Andrews was in the first half, is as much of a touchdown machine as he was in the second. Yeah, and I know a lot of people are like, oh, there's going to be more likely or Hopkins,
Starting point is 00:32:48 possession wide receiver and been talked up, whatever. Like, I still think. that you just mentioned, as bad as it was, only 600-some on yards. I kind of looked at it. The three that I was really struggling between was taking Trey Henderson, Alave, who I think is just getting forgotten. And I know that Shuck is probably, or Shoe, who wants to go by Shuck is the quarterback this year.
Starting point is 00:33:05 But I don't think it's going to be that bad where Alavi still can't be at least a wide receiver three or four at this point. But yeah, I want to kind of see this is, we're doing a mock. And maybe I would have done things differently if this was in New York with you doing the flex. But I wanted to see what this look like if I secured that tight-end position because again, the super flex you go back to, your flex is tied up. You don't have as much flexibility because of the fact that a lot of these guys would have ended up on my bench already.
Starting point is 00:33:30 And if you want to do a mock, just like Jake Sealy is right now, Fantasypros.com slash draft wizard, that's where you can go. Get familiar with the tools. Don't forget to sync all your leagues for free and use the draft simulator. It's the best way to make sure all your picks are as good as they possibly can be. It's going to help you improve exponentially in all of your drafting. So use the tools. Don't be a tool. Mark Andrews is going to. goes at 808. Cam Scadaboo goes next. I was looking at Cam and Trevionn Henderson.
Starting point is 00:33:55 I wanted to get one of them. And they went back to back. Cam Scadaboo at 809, I can only assume Team 4 is a Scott Bogman robot. Chris Olavet at 811. So I decided to continue to build out the wide receiver room with a bunch of guys that can contribute. Jordan Addison, Jerry Judy. As long as I can keep Joe Flacco playing quarterback for the Browns, I'll take my chances
Starting point is 00:34:17 with Jerry Judy. There's going to be some picks in there for Flacco. We know that. but Judy Addison is my wide receivers four and five. I think I can live with that. Tyrone Tracy goes next. This is the first draft we've done where Cam went above Tyrone. So the worm might be turning a little bit in early ADP already.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Cooper Cup at 903. Team four selects DeAndre Swift. Then back to you, you teenage mutant ninja in Jigba. You selected Sam Darnold, your third QB, the first team to take a third quarterback. Why now, Jake? Because I leaned into it. And the fact of my advantage and, hey, hint, hint, watch the other show that you and I are going to do together talking about Superflex strategy. But also the fact that I'm trying out to, one of the things I'll bring up is buys.
Starting point is 00:34:59 I didn't want to double down on my buy for my third quarterback. And the options that were left, there was very few that didn't overlap the buy of the Eagles or the Bears. And so the fact that Sam Darnold, like, we all want to say that can't happen again. The offensive line's going to ruin him because he sees ghosts when the offensive line doesn't work. But what if he's even QB 16? And I, you know, yeah, I only get him for possibly two weeks, but I'm just maintaining that advantage I have over everybody else. All right.
Starting point is 00:35:24 So certainly a smart path there. Naji Harris goes at 906. I was thinking about Naji because I know it's going to sour everybody, but old man Harbaugh is going to play the veteran as long as the wheels stay on. I'm telling him, it's going to happen. He's going to piss a lot of smart fancy people off. It's just, including me, including me, it's going to piss us off. But they sign him for a reason and Hampton will play.
Starting point is 00:35:46 But is Naji Harris is healthy. going to play a lot. Next you have Brian Robinson, Tank Bigsby, and then you took Roma Dunesay next Andrew Erickson at 909. Let's discuss it. Yeah, guys, Rome wasn't built in a day. So give him year two to figure things out. And I think you're going to see a big jump from him. Entering year two, we see a lot. Again, I'm betting on, so because I punted receiver, I invested more capital in quarterbacks and running backs. I'm trying to bank on some of these year two, year three breakouts, right? The guys that didn't fire in year one, because we still see a lot of breakouts. In years one and two, I just released an article on the site, identifying the next Y receiver one.
Starting point is 00:36:23 And a lot of those guys are year two and year three players. It's actually not rookies. They're the ones that break out the most. It's actually a lot of year two and year three players. So taking multiple shots and hoping that one or two of these guys can become a staple in my lineup to then pair with the elite running backs and quarterbacks I drafted earlier on. All right. So Erickson makes the case there for Roma Dunzee. Let's continue on.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Jaden Reed and then Jacoby Myers. Fitsy, you're on the clock for two picks. What are you doing? I needed a backup wide receiver, even though my first three are pretty good. I think Ricky Pearsall is the, he's my favorite of the 49ers receivers for this year. And I have him as a top 40 option of the position. I thought about Stefan Diggs, but honestly, I'm a little unnerved by the whole boat thing. And like, I don't think it would be like out of the question for the Patriots to release him.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Because their commitment to him in terms of guaranteed money is not that deep. It would not be totally unquestionable that they release him. So Pierce all it is. And then look, you know, my second quarterback right now is two. I need a third quarterback. And I love Michael Pennix. So happy to take him. And after kind of waiting on quarterback, I figured I needed a third.
Starting point is 00:37:35 I'll go with the sensational armed talents of young Michael Pennix. Well, not that young. He came into the league kind of old. Oh, geez. He's older than, he's younger than Tyler Shuck, though, right? Well, you're younger. It's pretty close. By a year.
Starting point is 00:37:50 By a year. All right. So Pennix goes out next. I saw he was the last prospect born in the 90s. And that made me depressed. Representing. Nice baby. Yeah, there you go.
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Starting point is 00:38:10 You lost them? That's a whole other podcast. No, you can't find them anywhere. The ones that you want to try and buy. My stepson is super, his wife is super into him. There you go. What a weird phrase. My stepson's wife is super into them.
Starting point is 00:38:24 I just, I have to, like, control my brain for a second. You need to see the family chart tree? I could use a visual aid. It's kind of like the bloodline family tree. I just, I would, that would really be helpful to me, Jay. After Kalilu Shiger at 1002, Jalen Warren, we've gone off the rails. Joanne Jennings at 1004. So let's discuss your selection here, Andrew.
Starting point is 00:38:46 Erickson of Joanne Jennings. I know you're on the clock. I'll pause the draft for you because I have that sort of power. Yeah, I'm looking for some wide receiver help with maybe some more immediate production. We know that Brandon Iuk is probably going to be delayed in his return. So even if the Jennings experience is limited to the first month of the year, we know that he has a lot of chemistry with Brock Purdy and maybe fizzles out as as Ricky Peresol gets more invested in year two as IU comes back from his injury. But looking at immediate production, I really feel good about week one comes around, I feel good about starting Juan Jennings, whereas some of these other receivers I might need to wait a little bit, how does the Bears receiver room shake out? Can I start
Starting point is 00:39:25 Adun's Day week one? I'm not so sure. I feel confident about Jennings. So I think he fits my specific roster bill for what I'm looking for in a wide receiver. Okay. Let's take a quick break to remind everybody as you are watching today, make sure you drop your comments below, the picks you like, maybe even the picks you don't, who do you think won the draft? All of that can get you some free stuff. So all you have to do to win our latest giveaway, a signed George Pickens Steelers jersey, that's right. He doesn't need it anymore. It's done.
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Starting point is 00:41:07 Stefan Diggs goes at 1005, and I agree with Fitsy's commentary, just for the record. I think it's, I would go under 0.5 games of Stefan Diggs as a patriot. I'm just going to them. I'm going to take any under. It's just there's plenty of summer left to see for him to get in trouble. Josh Downs at 10.06 and Javante Williams at 1007. Jake, you went running back here.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Travis Aetn at 10.08. Yeah, and this has nothing to do with even Cohen today talking about that all these rumors have been false. I don't even believe them 100% that all the rumors were going to false. I just believe that E.T.N. ETN isn't necessarily dead as the potential lead for this backfield, even if it comes down to volume and the volume's only 240 touches. This guy was just a top five running back two years ago. Again, it was volume like Joe Mixon's volume, but we were talking about Tunt and having fubble issues already. And I'm not saying that he can't be the best running back.
Starting point is 00:42:00 It's just at this point where I'm going to take a dice roll on somebody who could even be an RB2 at this value. I'm going to take the chance that ETN still has something left. And maybe something left is on a new team. Maybe it is. And it could be sooner than later, too. O'Rico Dowdell at 1009, Trey Benson at 1010, Zach Sharpen at 1011, then T.J. Hawkinson, to me, again,
Starting point is 00:42:19 trying to control some offense. And I also took Jordan Mason because Aaron Jones is one of the older running backs I'm worried about. Mason was really good last year. Now, it was in the system of the San Francisco 49ers, so you take that with a great assault. But I was impressed with how he handled the workload. You don't see a lot of guys getting 20 carries in a game, and he was able to do that for the first few months of the season
Starting point is 00:42:37 and really kind of show you that, hey, I can I can get up to that 1520 touch threshold on a weekly basis and be very productive. And I think, again, that Minnesota offense is going to be much better than people realize, much to the chagrin of Pat Fitzmorest. Michael Pittman at 1102. Evan Ingram, great value at 1103. Love this pick there. Jono Smith at 1104.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Debo Samuel. I almost took Debo. I was going back and forth. So you got Debo and Terry McLaren. Now, would you do that in real life? I would. And then I would try to figure things out later. I just, I can't pass a top 40 wide receiver this late.
Starting point is 00:43:11 That's the thing. It's just staring at me on the board. I wanted to go elsewhere. I wanted a different wide receiver. I was thinking running back again. But Debo here at 1105 was just, I'll figure it, this is one of those ones where I'll figure out a trade. I'll figure out something later.
Starting point is 00:43:24 I got weeks before there. Week 12 by, things will figure out by the time I need to worry about it. There you go. Take talent. That's what the draft is for. It's a good reminder as well. We've got a lot of good reminders, boy.
Starting point is 00:43:35 David and Joku at 11.06. and then Rashad White goes next at 1107, Tucker Kraft, 1108. Erickson, another wide receiver, another round for you, Keong Coleman at 1109. So last year, Keon Coleman, when you look at the productivity, just 29 catches for 556. So what does year two look like for Keon? Hopefully much better. Hopefully it looks like the first for the first nine weeks of his season and not the last when he came back from the wrist injury.
Starting point is 00:44:01 I don't think that there's enough to consider with that where he was being, he was pretty productive before his injury. And he was starting to build momentum. And then they even talked about it in the off season right after the bill season ended, where the coaches felt that Keon Coleman really couldn't build on that momentum coming back from injury. And they were doing the MRI Cooper experiment. So they didn't really get a chance, I think, to make Keon Coleman at the focal point. But the thing that he does that I love about projecting him as like a year-two breakout is because he gobbles up high-value targets.
Starting point is 00:44:29 He can make plays after the catch. He makes plays downfield. And Josh Allen trusts him in the red zone. We saw that on display when he was healthy in the start of the year. Allen would go to him in the red zone. So if James Cook's not scoring those 19 touchdowns again, well, where are they going to go? Maybe to Keon Coleman.
Starting point is 00:44:43 So again, ecosystem. I want a Buffalo Bills wide receiver. So that's why I went with Keon Coleman. Okay. So getting involved with Buffalo. After Keon goes, Taj Spear goes. We'll see how Spears does maybe a little healthier season for him in 2025. Maybe he eats into that power workload more.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Dallas Goddard at 1111. And then Fitsy went RB here, double tapping. Jaden Blue of the Dallas Cowboys and then Austin Echler of the Washington commanders. All right, Fidsey, let's talk about Jaden Blue and Echler. To this point, I only had Joe Mixen and Caleb Johnson at running back. So I felt like I needed to bolster that position a little bit. Jaden Blue, you know, I'm not as in love with him as some other people might be as a prospect. But his opportunity in Dallas is pretty undeniable.
Starting point is 00:45:32 I do think it's probably going to be some sort of Giovante. Sanders, Blue Mishmash early in the season, but like Blue is obviously the fastest, most explosive guy they have, and the natural candidate to be their third down back. And then speaking of third down backs, Austin Echler has played that role pretty well for a while. I realize we're not talking about vintage Austin Echler anymore, but I love him in that offense. Washington suddenly has one of the more potent offenses in the league. And on a per game basis, Echler was still pretty good last year. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:08 I feel okay getting him this late. Okay. Let's continue on here after these selections from Fitz. You got J.K. Dobbins at 1212. Christian Kirk at 1203. And then you went QB here, Erickson, with Gino Smith at 1204. So that is your third QB and a starter, not a bad guy for the bye weeks. In round 12, to get a starter for 17 weeks in an offense with Brock Bowers,
Starting point is 00:46:33 Jacob Myers, Ashton, Jentee, Chip Kelly, up pace, uptempo. So Gino Smith is going to, Gino Smith doesn't even have to start for me, and I think he's a value here. I just think it was way too good to pass on a quarterback and Superflex that, you know, depending on how I feel, I mean, maybe Stefan Diggs isn't ready. Maybe I don't feel great about starting Drake May in week one.
Starting point is 00:46:50 I can start Gino Smith. You know who's playing the Patriots? The Raiders, that Raiders Patriots matchup. So Gino Smith could theoretically be in my starting lineup in week one, and I'm getting here in the 12th round. All right, Darno Mooney at 1205, Luther Burton, Rashid, Shihed, and then you took right from under me
Starting point is 00:47:06 Bachel Tootin. So for all that bluff and bluster about, I don't think Travis Aetian is done. I think he's still great. Who knows how good it can be. You took Tootin anyway. You lie. I did.
Starting point is 00:47:18 You lie. And I would say to everybody out there, this isn't a bad strategy. I was giving the perception of this team, I would actually flip those picks, but this is coming down to knowing we had eight robot teams, and I knew the draft order. And I was risking. That's why I celebrated while he was talking about Jane and Blue.
Starting point is 00:47:35 It was like I knew there was a chance Tuton can make it back to me if I went ETN first. It wouldn't have happened the other way around given we were drafting against bots. But I don't think it's bad strategy at this point. When you went wide receiver heavy, when you have the quarterbacks I do to take flyers and both being on the same team. Maybe it is Tudan. Maybe it is ETN. Maybe again, I go back to ETN being on a different team. I think Tuton has the higher upside, but that's why I'm willing to take both.
Starting point is 00:48:00 And at this point, it's a worthy risk. And what? They're going to be my third running back anyway. So I think it's worthy of taking that gamble. All right. I agree, by the way, for the record. You flip that ADP for sure. Jaylor McMillan at 1209, Kareem Hunt at 1210.
Starting point is 00:48:14 Isaac Arendo, Cage you pick there at 1211. I like Garendo this year late. I took my third quarterback in Cam Ward at 1212, so I'm very happy with that. A lot of youth and an experience, perhaps, at my QB2-ish position between him and McCarthy. Hopefully, Cam Ward can at least, I believe in the mindset of Cam Ward. I don't love the environment, but I think he's a really serious kid. And I think he's going to put the work in. And I think that sometimes.
Starting point is 00:48:41 You should have taken Shuck for the veteran presence. If I wanted to do that, I could have just taken Russell Wilson. Instead, I also at 1301 took Emeka Egbuka. Why? Because they already have Godwin and also made it easier with Jalen McMillan off the board already. So if I'm worried about the age of Mike Evans and the health of, of course, returning Chris Godwin, and then Emeka Agbuka might be a nice investment in the 13th round. Kenan Allen goes next, then Russell Wilson, Matthew Golden,
Starting point is 00:49:10 and then back to you for your next selection, which is another wide receiver, a rookie Kyle Williams of the Patriots, Jake. Yeah, I thought the fact of what we've been talking about with Stefan Diggs being a potential issue, and even if not, it's not going to be 100% by week one. It's going to take some time. We're looking for the answer of why everybody loves Drake May, including, of course, Fitz.
Starting point is 00:49:31 Well, who could potentially step in and be their number one Y receiver and be that alpha outside Y receiver too and what Kyle Williams brings. There's a lot of options on these teams, but there's a lot of options for twos and threes. And even if Stefan Diggs was healthy, I do think there's a world where Williams is still the number one. So I'm taking the chance. If everybody loves Drake May for the breakout and he needed weapons, Kyle Williams should not be here on the board this late. All right. I'll let you make your next pick. I'll pause it for you, give you a second. No, you didn't even need to. Got it with five seconds to go because I'm a professional. Oh, well, you know, again, jury's out.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Kyle Williams goes and Tyler Shuck, Nick Chubb at 1307. One of my favorite sleepers teammate is clearly the Joe Pisa Pia bot. Kyle Menangai from the Bears, I'm telling you, keep an eye on him. He's going to be there, David Montgomery. I'm telling you right now, that's what Ben Johnson is going to do with him. Just watch. Ray Davis, Jerome Ford, Dylan Samson. So Erickson, you took Ray Davis here with your selection at 1309.
Starting point is 00:50:27 Again, just investing in the bills, right? Investing in the bills. I like taking shots at running backs that are, injury away and James Cook looks coming off a massive touchdown season but he's also wants a new contract so does that linger does he hold out we saw the holdouts last year did not play out well for them midseason except for Jamar chase basically he was the only one that had a pseudo holdout and ended up playing well up to the contract versus all the other guys that seemed to do really disappoint or get injured so yeah i think ray davis at least showed out when he had opportunities last year and yeah i think
Starting point is 00:50:58 that he could step in and be a one a in that backfield of cook missed his time Jerome Ford goes, then Dylan Sampson, as I said, Fitsy, your last two selections, Marvin Mims, and then Roshan Johnson. So curiosity, Fitsy. I want you to talk about both these guys, but answer this question first. If Manangai, Manangai, excuse me, was there at the end, would you have taken him over Rochon? I've been torn on this because Manangai is a favorite of mine. Like, the odds are just so stacked against him as being this late round guy, small, not especially fast, really no power. ass-catching background in college.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Like the prospect profile is bad. But I loved Monagai watching him as a, like, I'm a big 10 guy. And like, this guy runs so hard and is such a warrior. You know, he comes from Rutgers and he kind of reminds, like his style is a lot like Isaiah Pichekos. And he could be this year's Isaiah Picheko. Who was also, for the record, a late pick. Right.
Starting point is 00:51:57 A lot of equity in him. Didn't come from an SEC. You guys, blah, blah, blah. the Bears running back coaches, right? You know it's Eric B. I don't know, but I'm sure. It's Eric B. Enemy. The guy who's the chief's coach
Starting point is 00:52:09 when Isaiah Pichico took over is a seventh round pick. Yeah. So, I mean, like, it's not out of the question, but I... Charlie Day for the win, once again. If I'm still putting down, like, I still think Rocheon is the slightly better percentage play to be that Montgomery guy for Ben Johnson in Chicago. So, yeah, he was one of my last picks. And then I took Marvin Mims, who I believe,
Starting point is 00:52:31 leave had six touchdowns for the Broncos in their final seven games of the season. Average like 62 yards and he did all that despite never playing even half the offensive snaps in any of those games. And maybe he just continues to be that sort of bit player for Sean Payton. But man, if Peyton expands this guy's role, I'm excited to think of what things could look like for Marvin Mims. You know, and like he's got some headwinds now. Evan Ingram is there. they drafted pat pat bryant but uh man mims is still like i think he might be the most explosive guy on their roster on offense other than maybe r j harvey colston lovelin goes next then jackson darts followed by ericsson's last pick of will shipley obviously just hedging the sayquan
Starting point is 00:53:18 barclay bet there iron rogers remember him 1405 so we'll see how long that holds marquis hollywood Brown. And then Adam Thieland goes another nice last round selection there. Thielen, again, very productive against all odds. Then a very cagey pick by a very cagey man. Jake Sealy selects Tyler Algier. Anything happens to be Jean. Erickson will be on the phone trying to pry him away and Jake will break him over the coals in the trade. Amari Cooper goes next. Rashad Bateman, Joe Flacco. And I have the last selection of this draft, which has two of my favorite wide receiver rookie class guys in there. Jack Besh is in there.
Starting point is 00:53:56 Trey Harris is in there. There's a part of me that wants to also maybe take Cedric Tillman as well. But again, do I want... I had my trigger on Jack Bash, by the way. I was shocked that you didn't take him. I'd be honest with you. Like, I get the Alger pick.
Starting point is 00:54:12 I understand that, but I thought for sure Besh would be your guy. And now just to spite you, I'm going to go ahead and make that selection. Well, honestly, he was between three people and now just for fun. do it because that's what it's about and would you look at that somebody got an a plus on today's draft it's me joey p 97 out of a hundred and i did several reads sold you some stuff
Starting point is 00:54:36 what else can be done and it looks like dig says don't take it all is good advice and good luck because i am number one jake seeley's number two uh it's going to be may finishes fourth and Fitsy top five, nothing to be concerned. Fitsy, do you think that automatically out of the gate in Superflex, you're at a disadvantage being down at the turn? Yeah, I picked this spot because I really wanted to see how it was going to play out there and what I would be able to do at quarterback. You know, would there be anything for me at that one-two turn or would I just wait? Decided to wait and, you know, hammer the wide receiver position and really happy with how the receiver position wound up. But I'm not totally disappointed with the quarterback position either.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Like, you know, to be able to wait and, you know, like come away with Jordan Love, who I think has plausible upside if he can kind of get back to where he was at the end of the 2023 season, Tua and Michael Pennix Jr. I'm not disappointed with that. And I've got, you know, a fantastic wide receiver room and I don't totally hate my running backs. There you go. Don't totally hate your running backs. If that's not a ringing endorsement, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:55:47 what is. I love Caleb Johnson. I'm with you on there. I think that's a slam dunk. The great thing is when you're done with these drafts, uh, you get all the insights here from the tools on draft wizard. Again, download draft wizard app. Use the draft simulator. Go to fancy pros.com slash draft wizard today. Uh, I got sleeper pick alerts on J.J. McCarthy and Jack Besh, number two wide receiver in the consensus sleeper rankings, by the way, just pointing that out there. Uh, it said also I got to steal with Cam Ward in the 12th. I agree. Uh, and yes, I'm going to be hurting in a certain by week or two, but that's okay. I'd rather go win every other week. And it looks like Derek Brown from Fantasy Pros actually liked my draft more than anybody else. Derek Brown liked it. Rob Woziac,
Starting point is 00:56:27 one of the great folks over in terms of the expert league that we play in. Rob's a multi-time winner of that same league we were just talking about. So that's very cool. Jake Seeley, who liked and hated your draft? Oh, out of the experts. I was too busy looking at the entire thing baffled by the fact that Caleb Williams was seen as the sixth best Superflex option. I will put money on the table right now that the DAC, C.J. Stroud, Jared, golf, Justin, Herbert, Brock Purdy, four out of those five are behind Caleb Williams for this year. So, yeah, that that's, that's, I got a big thumbs up from, uh, David Kluge, uh, Ryan Weiss, Weiss or Weiss, Jacob, Humbman. I believe. I believe. Is it? Is it, is it Kluge? Yes. I never knew that. That rhymes with Lugie.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Never forget. Here's the thing. No, no, no, no. This is not a thing for like the flex leagues, but this is why I did the flex leagues because we never see each other in person to talk to each other in person. Like this is why I wanted to do it. Dalton Doldon I have issues with and we're going to have to talk about that. And when I see this person and flex, hint, by the way, Dibro's got some main issues that we need to talk about because he's the one who hated my draft the most. Wow.
Starting point is 00:57:43 Interesting. You finished second. he liked my draft the most and he hated yours. So basically, Deep- Big thumbs down from Debrough on Caleb Williams, Jackson Smith, and Jigbo and Mark Andrews somehow. Well, I disagree with him on the Andrews front there too. Well, let's run through your roster here since you were number two,
Starting point is 00:57:59 to my number one. Jalen Hertz, Alvin Camara, James Connor, Nico Collins, JSN, Terry McLaur and Mark Andrews, Debo, Samuel, Superflex QB, Caleb Williams, and then the bench, Donald ATN, Kyle Williams, Algier, and Tudin. And I think there's a really solid roster. The wide receivers are terrific.
Starting point is 00:58:16 The agent running back, I think you'd agree, Jake. That's the question mark we linger on this roster. Yeah, 100%. And would this be a typical draft that things fell a little bit differently. Probably not. I would have leaned into running back earlier. But the way that the draft fell, I talked about it earlier. And it'll be part of the show that you and I talk about strategy while drafting,
Starting point is 00:58:34 especially in Superflex, is I took what I thought was the best Superflex potential combination of Jalen Hertz and Caleb Williams at quarterback. And then because my number three wide receiver can contend with anybody's in half the leagues wide receiver twos, I'm willing to give up running back. And running back I chase. That's why I took Al's year late. I'm chasing these potential injuries, other running backs. I kind of almost did an RB0, but even so doing this hybrid E's RB0, I still start with Kamara and Connor.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Could I lose both of them to age and injury? Absolutely. But I think my team's built to withstand that. Let's get to Erickson's selections here. It's going to be May. Andrew, your roster is Drake May, followed by Bijan Robinson, Jemir Gibbs. Wow. I mean, that's an incredible one two-paring.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Like, this is the way to do it, folks. If you are going to pass on QB early, Bejohn Gibbs in a half especially, that's tremendous. The wide receiver room, you know, it's got to suffer. Something's going to suffer in Superflex. It's somewhere, probably. Harrison, Waddle, Oduenze. So question marks there. None of those guys are a true number one yet.
Starting point is 00:59:35 I think going into this, could they finish? Could Waddle finish as a one? Sure. Harrison, sure. It didn't say it's possible. But on paper, you still got to get there. Kittle, then R.J. Harvey at the flex at the Superflex, C.J. Stroud, then Gino, Joanne Jennings, Keon, Coleman, Ray Davis, Will Shipley.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Erickson, discuss your roster and any insights you want to share with the rest of the team. I think that I did the right approach at the beginning where I didn't feel like I needed to reach on an inferior quarterback in round one and not even in round two. Just hit the best at the positions. And if you're in a full PPR, I think it works even better. because if Bejana and Jemir Gibbs are catching pass out of the backfield, well, it helps close the gap on quarterbacks because quarterbacks don't benefit if it's PPR. They benefit if it's half PPR because they scored that many more points than the rest of the running back's wide receivers and tight ends. And if anything, I'm almost upset about myself for taking Drake May and
Starting point is 01:00:26 C.J. Stroud. Knowing that I was able to get Gino Smith, who I talked about at the end as a round 12 guy that I would feel fine if I had to start Gino Smith week one as my stability at my quarterback two slot. So if I had not taken Stroud instead drafted another running back, another Josh Jacobs, Bucky Irving, and then added another receiver into that,
Starting point is 01:00:46 I might have liked my team even more. So I think I would say, if you're trying to build a super team and super flex, I think it's worth it to practice going a little risky and punting off the quarterback position, seeing if you can kind of figure out
Starting point is 01:00:58 with my second quarterback, can I get someone that is solid really later on and then look at my team, like, oh my God, I have Gibbs and Bijjan Robinson. Like building a team that someone asks you, Wait, how did you get this team? That's what I was trying to think about when you're trying to think, how can I finish in a very, very tippy top,
Starting point is 01:01:12 build a team that someone will ask you, wait, how is this even possible? I'll answer that question for you in just a second after Fitz runs through his team because I'm at the tippy top. Fitz, let's discuss your selection here. God, this is fun. It is alone, though, sometimes being at the top. Fitsy, let's talk about your roster, the insights that we can get away from it.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Jordan Love, Joe Mix and Caleb Johnson, Justin Jefferson C.D. Lammy and Ladd-McConkey. Wow. Fitz, I mean, I don't know. I think this is good enough for third place at least. Travis Kelsey, look, I think that's a make-or-break pick. I think you might agree there. If you have another year of decline potentially, what does that look like? Ricky Pearson, Tusc, Tuatio, Tuna, Tung of Ioloa, again, there's risk there. But you backed it up with Pennix. Really solid job there, as always. Marvin Mims, Eckler, Rochon Johnson, Jaden Blue. So Fitsy, this team is built on wide receivers and trying to make sure that you're getting enough productivity for. your RBs and your QBs to keep pace. What do you think? Yeah, that's the question. Will this team get enough productivity from the quarterbacks and the running backs? And I don't know is the answer to that. But at least I have a couple of options for those two spots, the QB and the Superflex spot.
Starting point is 01:02:22 Since I have a three-man rotation, I can throw in with Jordan Love to a Tunga Vailoa and Michael Penix Jr. You know, I'm looking at the analysis, the great analysis. and the fantasy pros. You know, we have these fantastic tools that you can like go through everything and look at what might have been different maneuvers. And I agree that I could have done a much better job. If I had waited even longer for that second quarterback, I could have had the Kenneth Walker, Geno Smith combination rather than Tua and Jaden Blue.
Starting point is 01:02:58 And, you know, I think that's a major upgrade. I could have had at running back for, you know, a pretty negligible. decrease in quarterback value. Wish I had done that. I know it's good. Oh, sorry. Go ahead. Fitz. Oh, no, that's okay. So, yeah, I wish I'd done that. You know, but I guess, like, the key to this team would probably be more running back than quarterback and just getting, like, decent value out of Joe Mix and Caleb Johnson and then my assortment of Jaden Blue, Austin Echler, and Roshan Johnson, because right now I am ranked 12th at the running back position of the teams in this draft.
Starting point is 01:03:36 Okay. Well, I mean, you knew that that was going to be the roughest, but you kind of discussed, you know, during the draft that like, hey, I had to sacrifice somewhere from going to start with those big wide receivers. And to the point you were making, too, that the nice thing about the software is if you don't like the way the draft looks, you can back your picks out and make some other ones and take a look at your roster. That's what's so great about the fantasy pros tools here and draft wizard specifically.
Starting point is 01:04:00 So let's take a look at this last roster to talk. about the A plus one, or as I like to call it, the Ravens and the Vikings. Lamar Jackson, Derek Henry, Kiron Williams, Brian Thomas, Jr., Xavier Worthy, Jerry, Judy, T.J. Hawkinson, Jordan, Addison, J.J. McCarthy. I wasn't kidding. I told you. It's the Ravens and it's the Vikings. Then you got Cam Ward, Chris Godwin, somehow made it to the bench. He got pushed on the bench there. Jordan, Mason, Emeka, Igbuka, and Jack Besh. So I would go to war with this, but I want to know what you all think. Drop your comments below, which of our four rosters do you like the most?
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