The Herd with Colin Cowherd - FantasyPros - The Biggest Fantasy Football Questions For Each Team in Week 9 (Ep. 1812)

Episode Date: November 1, 2025

Ryan Wormeli, Pat Fitzmaurice, and Derek Brown answer burning questions for each game and team ahead of Week 9 of the NFL season! Don't miss this crucial fantasy football advice ahead of Week 9’s matchups! Timestamps (may be off due to ads): Intro - 0:00:00 TNF Recap - 0:02:57 Bears @ Bengals - 0:11:56 Vikings @ Lions - 0:16:53 Panthers @ Packers - 0:21:10 Hard Rock Bet - 0:24:51 Broncos @ Texans - 0:26:04 Falcons @ Patriots - 0:29:24 49ers @ Giants - 0:33:24 FantasyPros AutoPilot - 0:35:56 Colts @ Steelers - 0:36:28 Chargers @ Titans - 0:42:05 Saints @ Rams - 0:46:46 FantasyPros Premium - 0:49:46 Jaguars @ Raiders - 0:50:04 Chiefs @ Bills - 0:52:46 Seahawks @ Commanders - 0:56:40 Cardinals @ Cowboys - 0:58:37 Outro - 1:01:40 Helpful Links: Hard Rock Bet - All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up for Hard Rock Bet and make a $5 bet and you'll get $150 in bonus bets if you win. Head over to Hard Rock Bet, sign up and make your first deposit today. Payable in bonus bet(s). Not a cash offer. Offered by the Seminole Tribe of Florida in FL. Offered by Seminole Hard Rock Digital, LLC, in all other states. Must be 21+ and physically present in AZ, CO, FL, IL, IN, NJ, OH, TN or VA to play. Terms and conditions apply. Concerned about gambling? In FL, call 1-888-ADMIT-IT. In IN, if you or someone you know has a gambling problem and wants help, call 1-800-9-WITH-IT. GAMBLING PROBLEM? CALL 1-800-GAMBLER (AZ, CO, IL, NJ, OH, TN, VA).  My Playbook - Sync your league instantly to My Playbook to get custom advice on how to manage your team throughout the season. See your league’s top available players, power rankings, and more for free! Check the “Are They Playing” tool each week to get the latest game-day availability odds for all injured players. If you’re premium – you unlock all kinds of helpful waiver, trade, lineup and league analysis tools. You can even auto-start your team’s optimal lineup each week with Auto-Pilot. Sync your league and dominate every week of the season with My Playbook at fantasypros.com/myplaybook or on the FantasyPros App Follow us on Twitch - The team here at FantasyPros is taking questions all week, every week on Twitch. Follow us on Twitch at twitch.tv/fantasypros and never miss a stream! Discord – Join our FantasyPros Discord Community! Chat with other fans and get access to exclusive AMAs that wind up on our podcast feed. Come get your questions answered and BE ON THE SHOW at fantasypros.com/chat Leave a Review – If you enjoy our show and find our insight to be valuable, we’d love to hear from you! Your reviews fuel our passion and help us tailor content specifically for YOU. Head to Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever else you get your podcasts and leave an honest review. Let’s make this show the ultimate destination for fantasy football enthusiasts like us. Thank you for watching and for showing your support – https://fantasypros.com/review/ BettingPros Podcast – For advice on the best picks and props across both the NFL and college football each and every week, check out the BettingPros Podcast at bettingpros.com/podcast, our BettingPros YouTube channel at youtube.com/bettingpros, or wherever you listen to podcasts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you. you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Hello, everybody. Welcome into the Fantasy Pros football podcast. I'm Ryan warmly. I'm Ryan warmly joined as I am every Friday by Pat Fitzmores and by Derek Brown.

Fellas, it is Halloween. Happy Halloween to you and to everybody listening. Two of us decided to dress up in some kind of small costume here for those watching on YouTube. What are you, Warren, since we're going to dive into that, huh? I'm clearly Clark Kent changing into Superman. I've got the Superman uniform under the unbuttoned shirt. I've got the Clark Kent glasses on. I think everybody could have probably have guessed that.

Fitz, of course, is... Ray Mysterio. ...coming as his favorite wrestler. Dibro is coming as... I couldn't find anything to do, man, okay? I have a blow-up costume, and I was telling Fancy before here. I had a blow-up costume, and I can't see to do the show in a blow-up costume. I thought about it.

He bro showed up as Lex Luthor because he's bald. I mean, yeah, it's the best you could do. Yeah, it's fine. I'll be the villain here. I'm happy with it.

First of all, no Pat Fitzmorest. This is a mystery analyst. No, but shout out to our good friend Maricio Gutierrez. Yep. For the mask a couple years ago at the fantasy football expo. Moricio,

a great fantasy analyst from the great nation of, Mexico. He brought to the Fantasy Football Expo like two dozen Luchador masks and had the idea of handing them out to people and everyone was wearing them as we walked from our hotel to the Friday night party three blocks away. And it was great because I knew who was in the group, but I didn't know who was standing next to me at any particular time. Anyway, but yeah, at the end of the party, I handed the mask back to Marisi. I know he's like, no, Patricio. This is yours, man. This is a gift.

So, yeah, Maricio and his wife, Gemma, are like two of my favorite people in the world. I know Debrough loves both of them too. I love them to do. Just great people. Yeah, so I hope they're doing well. Thank you for the mask, Maricio. Shouts to Maricio. Shouts to Debrough for making excuses and not doing a costume.

Shout to everybody for enjoying Halloween here. Debrough, Fitz and I were talking a little bit yesterday on the show. You got to ask every year, what's your favorite? candy. Oh, geez. I'm more of a sour candy kind of source. I'll just go boring. I'll go like sour patch or something like that over like a trendy answer. I can't stand sour candy. I did chocolate or nothing. Yeah. Well, you know what? You go by texture and stuff like that too. You know what I mean? That's a big part of what you know, I could have just put a bag over my head and cut some eye holes and been a Dolphins fan. I thought about doing that, but you know, I didn't want the comments to be lit about

the fan base. No, that's a good transition. Let's talk a little bit about that Ravens Dolphins game. Obviously, like, the only real compelling storyline here is Lamar coming back. You know, the Ravens, when healthy, are a much better team than the Dolphins. And this game largely went how you would have expected, 28 to 6. You know, we can probably put a nail in the coffin of the Mike McDaniel tenure in Miami. Just everything kind of falling apart there. But Lamar was back. And this was largely, if you told me he was healthy, the Lamar would have expected one that's not running a lot to try and, you know, save some of those legs and, you know, first game back, getting back in a rhythm, you know, from the hamstring injury and everything, but just looking like the

great passer that he is, 204 yards, four touchdowns, three of which went to two tight ends, two of them to Mark Andrews, those were his only two catches in the game, one to Charlie Kohler, one to Rashat Bateman, save Flowers, doing what he usually does, which is leading the team in targets and yards, but not getting in the end zone. And Derek Henry, I would say looking more like Derek Henry. It was a bit of a slog. There was a couple of long runs later to get him to that 119 yards total. He did not get in the end zone early on.

It felt like he was getting bottled up a lot more. But Debrough, this is the Ravens offense more or less that we were expecting. Yeah. I mean, I think it's this looks about like what you were expecting walking into the year. Now, I will say if anybody watched that game, Lamar is clearly not still 100%. Like he's not. He looked, I'm not saying a tad bit slow, but tentative to run. He didn't look his usual nimbleness in the pocket.

He was very good as a passer in the four passing touchdowns. Like, if you started him versus other options on your roster, you're very happy with that. But I will say Lamar, like, he still not 100%. But it was a good matchup. He played well. My other takeaways from this game, man, like I think Henry looked fine. Like, if you bought low on him with Lamar out, you're very, very happy. and I think better days are ahead for him and the rushing attack.

The one guy I want to talk about here, and I saw both sides of the coin going into it. I ended up ranking him as a top 12 tight in for the week. Mark Andrews, dude. Like, for everybody out there, if you sat him, it wasn't wrong process outside of Detroit. Like, he has done nothing this entire year. I know he got the two touchdowns and that carried his day.

Still only 22 receiving yards. So you walk around from this game feeling probably no better. than you did with him on your roster as you did entering the game. Yeah, Fitz. What do you think about Andrews? Because, I mean, again, it's one of those things where it's like, yes, you had a good fantasy day if you started him, but just three targets, two catches. It was a blowout, but it wasn't a blowout for the whole game.

It wasn't until the second half that the Ravens pulled away. Could maybe lean on the run a bit more. I would still, I mean, if I had to pick like a binary decision concerned or not concerned, I would still be concerned to be a Mark Andrews manager. Same. Touchdown or bust, kind of the same thing. And we saw, like, I was more excited about the usage for Isaiah likely than I was for Mark Andrews. Isaiah likely has better chance of giving you a big play. And, you know, the two touchdowns for Andrews, it would have only been the one touchdown and the one catch had Derek Henry done what Derek Henry normally does and get into the end zone on, what was it, third and short at the goal line. It got stopped. They threw to Andrews in the next play. So, if Henry scores that touchdown, you know, Andrews is left with the one catch and you're like, thank goodness he scored the one touchdown to save me from disaster. Instead, it winds up being a pretty good day for Mark Andrews. It's just, yeah, man, he's still in the streamer category.

But I think, like, I'm going to probably start ranking Isaiah likely, like right behind Mark Andrews, like two spots apart most weeks. Jackson only threw 23 times. So, of course, nobody had, like a huge target total, just, you know, worth, worth noting there. Yeah. Honestly, the Ravens have been so bad on third and fourth and one this year that, like, you say like, oh, what Derek Henry normally does and he gets in the end zone on third one, like, I don't know how much that's going to happen this year. They, their offensive line gets no push in those situations.

It's been Lamar or other quarterbacks of, like, the offense has not looked good in these short yard situations this year. So we'll see how that goes. Just quickly debray, anything. on the Miami side or I mean again from the overall perspective this this team is obviously like kind of at the last legs of this era of the dolphins but for fantasy purposes jalen waddle continues to be really helpful when with tarry kill out and obviously divine a chan is a good fast player but besides that i mean so i'm glad we kicked us to the other side of the ball here

because i want to say if everybody that watched that game this game should have been competitive it's the Miami dolphins didn't crap the bed every time they got in the freaking red zone if that didn't happen, this game would have been close. And the box score, Tua didn't play amazing, but he played a lot better than it's been giving credit. And the other thing, dude, we got to get out of here with like the refs and the officiating this year, the tripping on Ollie Gordon. Get the hell.

Dude, I'm sorry. Like, what are we talking about here? The fact that that's not reviewable, it was a penalty. And you felt the momentum shift in that game because that wiped off a giant. play like that would have sent you had that play on top of jillan waddle he had like probably like 130 or 140 receiving arts so for everybody watching that game this game could have been much closer than the box score lets you believe based off of if the dolphins didn't crap the bed in the red zone the ravens are still a defense that i'm not saying they played bad but all of these

turnovers and the lack of any kind of continuity or efficiency or execution in the red zone for the dolphins. I think moving forward, the Ravens are still a defense we can target because the dolphins could run on them. They were throwing on them. Jim and Waddle should have had a much bigger day and this game should have been much, much closer. But yes, like all of the vibes run the dolphins are horrible. Every play that went sideways, Mike McDaniel, his entire vibe on the sideline is terrible. Like, I think the only reason he still has a job is because it is just a clown show there. And if you get rid of McDaniel, I think they just fully go off the rails and everything. And like, and it's just a dumpster fire to finish the season. Although it's not a dumpster

fire right. Like, it's still a dumpster fire right now. But it would be a spectacular one if he is gone. Fitz, the tripping call was heinous. It was just a horrific call. I would dial back a bit on like that being the difference and like costing on the momentum. It was a one score game at half time. And then the Ravens pulled away in the second half, like, well after that play had already happened. So I don't know how much that was like the reason for the blowout. It was a horrific call, of course. The dolphins messing up continually when they got inside the 30-yard line, to me, is more of what made this game not competitive when it could have been if they had simply just executed when they got in close. Yeah, they're just, they're not a good team, but I don't think they're quitting on Mike McDaniel.

I mean, they had the blowout loss to the Colts in week one. But since then, they've only really had their doors blown off in one. game. And I'm not even going to count that game last night where, yes, it was a decided loss. The game, the outcome wouldn't have changed had that tripping penalty not been called. Or had they not strangely overturned that catch by Devon A. Chen, that I thought it was kind of a weird overturn. Some pretty poor officiating that went against the dolphins. But, you know, it would have made it maybe, I don't know, a 10 or 13 point game at best rather than the 22 point game it was. So, but I don't feel like the team is quitting on Josh or, yeah, I don't know.

I don't think they're throwing in the towel. And for fantasy, you just like that they're sort of a streamlined. You're using A. Chan and Waddle and that's it. But you can use those guys pretty dependably because they're both really busy these days. Not that it has a fantasy impact, but the weak sauce of the running backs coach for the dolphins, getting in Ollie Gordon's ear over the tripping penalty. Like, dude, what the hell were you walking? I have to assume he didn't see the play and just assumed their last guy.

Then don't comment on it. If you didn't see the play, then just keep your freaking mouth shut. It's really easy. More often than not, though, the player is going to be like, it wasn't me, I swear. And then you go back and look and it was him. Ollie was right to clap back at him. He of course was. But more often than not, I can see why the coach would be mad if he didn't see the play

because, like, usually the rest, I mean, not the rest are. The rest are right more often. If you didn't see the damn play, it's pretty simple. But anyway. Quick reminder for everybody that all of our weekly consensus rankings and tiers can be found at Fantasypros.com slash rankings. There are four teams on by this week. It's the Browns, the Jets, the Buccaneers, and the Eagles.

Let's get into the Sunday early slate. Bears at Bengals. True or false, Caleb Williams and the Bears' offense will emphatically bounce back against a terrible Bengals defense fits. True. I love the setup for Caleb. this week. In fact, I think it's kind of a perfect storm. The Bengals pass defense is bad. They've allowed the second most passing touchdowns and third most passing yards. They've given up

7.8 yards per pass attempt, third highest mark in the league. And their past defense ranks 31st in DVOA, which is actually better than their run defense, which is 32nd. That has all been with Trey Hendrickson. Their best defensive player by far, one of the better edge rushers in the league. Hendrickson is a hip injury, hasn't been practicing this week. Even with Trey Hendrickson, the Bengals pass rush has the third lowest pressure rate in the league. If the Bengals can't generate a pass rush, Caleb could just pick his teeth with the Cincinnati defense. And here's the cherry on top worm. The bears are without their two best cornerbacks, Jalen Johnson and Kyler Gordon, both on injured reserve. Having your best cornerbacks when you're

going against Jamar Chase and T. Higgins, suboptimal. So if Joe Flacko's sprained AC joint it doesn't throw too much of a wrench into the Bengals' passing game. Bengals should be able to shred the Bears' past defense and make Caleb Williams have to stomp the accelerator to try to keep up. So this could be a really interesting shootout type of game. Debrough, you have been among the more vocal Caleb Williams. I won't say hater, but faders since he came into the NFL. Do you see this as an opportunity for him in this offense to bounce back?

Just given for no other reason than the matchup that they have in front of them. I think the matchup, and I wrote this, up in the primer. It can be a one week cologne to kind of gloss over the play of Caleb Williams. I don't like and I love how you phrase this worm. Will it emphatically bounce back? I don't see emphatically. I think the Bears offense will be much better because of just who they're going against. But this also could be a really good opportunity like they could just run the ever loving crap out of the ball. Like they have two guys they can lean on in the ground game. Swift has been good. we'll see if he plays. I know he's on the injured report and back to back DMPs,

but I'm still expecting him to suit up. But this could be a game where, yeah, like the Bears defense is horrible. Like, and they're injured. And the Bengals can put up points. If Joe Flacco's shoulder, you know, complies or if Jake Browning can throw an accurate ball. I know that's a lot ifs. But I think this game can be a shootout. It can be close. If I'm Ben Johnson, like, yeah, you let Caleb air it out to an extent, but I'm running the ball. I want to to strangle the clock in this one too because the Bengals can put up points and you don't have the defense to sit there and stop them from doing that. So I think this offense is going to look better just by virtue of who they're playing. But honestly, like out of this entire game, like, I think that

Kyle Monongai, my biggest takeaway is Kyle Monongai is absolutely flexworthy. Both the actual running backs in this game, Samajai, P ran and Kyle Monongai, depending on your options, you can run on both these defenses. You can put them in flex plays as, flex plays and strong flex plays this week both those guys are getting almost equal shares at the backfields i i put that word emphatically in there on purpose i think everybody would agree like they're going to bounce back but to what degree it happens let me ask you on swift um so like i in in a guillotine league which by the way i ask about my guillotine league a lot not because like i uh you know i want them to help me but although that is nice but because guillotine league like you need to get it right

that week and so it that added kind of like desperation and emphasis on getting it right in the moment. I just think is more helpful for thinking about these week-to-week starts decisions. Because in other leagues, it's like, okay, if you get it wrong, it's like, tends to be not the end of the world, especially early in the season. So at any rate, in my guillotine league, D. Bro, you just said that, you know, talking about Dandre Swift, assuming he plays, would you rather start him or somebody like Nico Collins going up against Denver, but without Pat Certan? Swift. Swift. Not even close. Like, not even close. I don't want to depend on C.J. Stroud versus the Denver secondary, even without Certain. Okay. Yeah. If Cirtain was playing like

I wouldn't have even brought it up, but I wanted to ask with that big piece. Are you the same mind, Fidsey, Swift? Are you going to E? Yeah, I think he's a little safer. I'm not quite as emphatic about it as you are, D-Brow, but I probably would play Swift. Swift is a top 12 running back in expert consensus rankings this week.

I mean, he's already 12 and half-point PPR. So the rankers are, I mean, obviously assuming he plays. Again, it's a bit of a question. Who do you all think wins this game, by the way? Like, I think the Bengals are a lot in this game. I think the Bears win. I like the Bengals as home does. Yeah, I like the Bengals here.

I think the Bears just had a bad day last week. They had been on a four-game winning street before then. The Bengals defense is terrible. Flacco had some ifiness this week with the shoulder. Like, I just think the Bears win this game. I don't know how much they win by, but I think they win. Let's go to Vikings at Lions. Debrough, your boy, J.J.J. McCarthy is back.

What are your expectations for the Vikings' offense with McCarthy back as quarterback? Dude, I'm worried about James. JJ in this one. And look, this is not so much it. I mean, it's a JJ take and what kind of quarterback player are we going to get? Dude, he is about to get put through the freaking gauntlet. Like, I'm glad that he's fully healthy. He's going to need every bit of his mobility behind what is turned into just, I mean, honestly, you can make a case for this is a bottom five offensive line. Like they're, they're playing bad, man. Like, Minnesota, since week four, is allowed the 13th highest pressure rate. Good luck against Detroit who since week four, they have the

second best pressure rate. Aiden Hutchinson is going to be standing over JJ for a decent part of this game. Detroit secondary has been playing well. I mean, I don't want to play JJ. Like, I mean, if you're in Superflex, fine, depending on your options, but low end QB2. Like, it's, this is definitely going to be like a really good litmus test for not, not a good matchup anyway you freaking slice it. and KOC is going to actually have to look like KOC of yester year like he's had some suspect moments this year man so I'm really worried about JJ no doubt before I toss to fit Steve Rojas Jiji's QB 22 too high too low just right in the rankings it's it's that's about right um I mean I think like there's a lot of like low in QB2 options that I'm just not in love

with this week with bad matchups um I've got to see where I've got him a QB 22 as well like I mean I've got him ahead of like Michael Pennix I'm might move Gino Smith ahead of him just considering how bad the Jaguars are. But I mean, that's that's about the realm JJ's living in right now. It's not pretty, man. Fitz, what are your expectations this week? Not great. I've got him at QB24. I think DeBro focused on the right thing, the offensive line. So they don't have center Ryan Kelly, who's still out with a concussion. I'm not sure if he's eligible to come back this week or next week, but I haven't seen anything about the possibility of Kelly playing this week.

So I assume he's out. And then both of the tackles, Christian Derrissau on the left, Brian O'Neill on the right. They're both dealing with knee injuries. Now, Darisaw, like, he's the key guy. He didn't practice or did practice on Wednesday, didn't practice on Thursday. But Thursday might have just been a maintenance day for a guy who's, you know, had a torn ACL and MCL. And Brian O'Neill has been getting in limited practices. So it seems like they're both going to play, but we don't know how effectively.

You know, the lion's secondary has been injury riddled, but it's getting a little healthier. I know they get Terry and Arnold back this week. I don't know. I'd love to tell you that we are going to see the J.J. McCarthy, who was running around and ripping some amazing throws in the second half of that come from behind win against the Bears in week one. And not the J.J. McCarthy. You threw two interceptions, fumbled three times and took six sacks against the Falcons in week two. But who knows? What do you think Jordan Addison fits?

What do you think about him for this week? Because we have never seen him on the field with J.J. McCarthy before. Right. Really good player. So, like, I've got him ranked as, I want to say, a mid-range wide receiver three. I think I've got him maybe around 30. I got him at 30. Yeah.

Yeah, right now I've got him at 26. Yikes, that's too high. I got to move him below. Bebo and Wondale. Yeah, so, I mean, like, I think you could play him just because he's good. Just, like, bad on the good player. But I wouldn't feel wildly confident about him. By the way, while we were talking, we already talked about the Dolphins game, of course.

Chris Greer, their GM is out, a mutual parting, according to Ian Rappaport. So he's been there a very, very long time. Wow. They got some pieces. Greer's gone, but we don't have any news on McDaniel? Wow. Nothing that I see here. Yeah, no other changes to the coaching staff as of now.

Chris Cruz said, I'm outy. Chris Grubeskey told Ross I'm outy after last night. He's like, I'm good. He's been there a long time. I wonder what this means for trading some of those defensive players that might be of interest to folks. All right, let's go to Panthers at Packers. Josh Jacobs did not do much on the ground against Pittsburgh,

although, of course, he did have the touchdown to save his fantasy day. Now he faces a Carolina defense that had been looking improved against the rush, but was just run all over last week by James Cook. One of the better running back performances we've seen this season by any individual player in that game against the Panthers run defense. So, Fitz, I'll start with you on this one. Will this be more of a return to Green Bay running the ball, or are we in for another big day from the Packers' passing attack? I mean, it's probably going to be balanced early and then maybe the Packers start to lean on the run. If they start to build a big lead that the spread suggests they're going to build,

but the Packers is almost a two-touchdown favorite. So Josh Jacobs is playing through a calf issue, and he's only had 13 carries in each of the Packers' last two games. His snapshares, the last two games, 55% and 53%. And in every other game, Josh Jacobs' snapshares have ranged from 65% to 88%. So Packers have been giving Emmanuel Wilson a little more run, and he's actually done pretty well.

11 carries for 61 yards against the Steelers last week. If the Packers build a big lead, maybe they let Wilson and Chris Brooks salt the game away late. So I've Jacobs ranked RB7, which is right on consensus. He's not a guy really ever want to fade, considering how Matt LaFleur just force-feeds him at the goal line. He has nine rushing touchdowns. Jacobs is still one of the few guys who's in Jonathan Taylor's area code in the touchdown category. I just think Matt LaFleur always wants to run the ball. Packers are the fourth run-heavyest team in the league.

Although they're only 18th in pass rate over expected, like minus 1.1%. So they're only throwing slightly less than a normal rate. But yeah, Josh Jacobs, when will it not be a good environment for him? Pretty much always. Debrough, you can answer the question, but I want to frame it a slightly different way. If I force you to pick one of these two players that you have to rank above consensus, would it rather be Josh Jacobs or Jordan Love? I think Jordan Love only because, yeah, the Panthers past events has relented it since week four.

And to Fitz's point, this all comes down to, and I think what your thoughts are on Jordan Love is can the Carolina Panthers push the Packers offense? If they can't, they're going to turtle, they're going to run the ball, it's going to be gross, whatever. You know, you're going to see a lot of Jacobs, whether inefficient or not, probably a good bit of Manuel Wilson. I kind of lean that if, and this is a giant, giant if Carolina can keep Bryce on the move and keep him clean. And again, I said this is a giant if. The Packers have actually been a pretty decent pass funnel. Now, part of this is they get up on teams and then they're throwing to come back, but their past defense is giving up a decent amount of production. Like, since week four, we're talking about a past defense.

It's giving up the 10th most passing yards per game, the six highest pass a rating, and the second highest CPO. So if Bryce can take advantage of that, which has been like a past defense that has taken a small step back, now Michael Parsons is going to play a huge role in that, then yes, Carolina could push them and we could see more Jordan Love. So Jacobs is not a guy like Pat talked about I'm ever going to fade. But if you were to tell me like he has a good game but not an amazing game and like there's guys that like Kyron has a better game, James Cook has a better game. game than him. Kamani Vidal, like any one of these guys that are in good matchups or high totals and stuff have a better game than Josh Jacobs. I won't be necessarily surprised. Today's show is brought to you by our presenting sponsor, Hard Rock Bet. The Hard Rock Bet Sportsbook app is top rated, probably because there's so many promos and so much to bet.

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Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, name? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. Next game here, guys. Broncos at Texans. is the number one quarterback in fantasy across the past two weeks by a decent margin. Where are you ranking him this week against a superb Texans defense? And what about RJ Harvey, Harvey, who is coming off of a three touchdown game, but it's one in which he still only got half the touches. J.K. Dobbins did.

D. Brose starting with you. I've got Bowdox at QB18. He has been so matchup sensitive over the last, I mean, basically the entire season. So do I want to rush out there to play Bo Nix, despite the hot streak against Houston since week four, they're allowing the second fewest yards per attempt in CPOE and the lowest passing yards per game and the lowest success rate per dropback? Heck no, man. No way. And do I want to play RJ Harvey coming off a three touchdown game, which he turned almost half of his touches because he got eight touches into touchdowns? No. It's just Sean Payton is still Sean Peytoning. He played

27% of the snaps. Like it's awesome. And I would love to sit here and be dancing, you know, into perpetuity about R.J. Harvey, but again, he's just not getting enough volume. It's just a fact. So, I mean, Debrough, do you, sorry, I was going to go ahead, worm. I was going to, I was just going to ask if you like the under in this game because, you know, you talked, but not wanting to do a strait. The lines at 40 and a half on hard. I like the under. I really like the under. And I've got R.J. Harvey, because I know this is part of your question too. At a R.B. 37 right now. Okay. Fitz, what do you think? Bo Nix, I believe is QB18 in consensus rankings, which is aligned with, with what Debrose said and Harvey I think is about RB 35 if I remember correctly.

Do those numbers sound right? Are you also kind of, even though it's the lowest total of the week leaning towards the under? I'm leaning towards the under. I'm surprised it went from 39 and a half up. I thought it might go down a little. So yeah, anything under 40 I love. I've Knicks ranked QV19 and I think I'm also at 37 for Harvey. So a little below consensus.

Look, man, we know this two week run. for Bo Nix has been pretty fluky. Like he was playing poorly for most of that game against the Giants two weeks ago. He stepped on the gas late because they were trailing big and had a couple of touchdown runs in that game. And then last week he got to face the Dallas defense,

which pretty much turns every quarterback into Tom Brady. So it's not going to be as easy against the Texans. They're giving up 11 and a half fantasy points per game to quarterbacks, fewest in the league. They've got the lowest opponent passer rating in the league. By far, they've allowed the second lowest

completion percentage, only 58%. They've allowed the third fewest yards per attempt, 6.3. So, yeah, not really excited about Nix. And as for R.J. Harvey, I'm just, I'm glad the touchdowns are keeping him on the radar, but you just can't comfortably start him in fantasy. He's played under 30% of Denver's offensive snaps in four straight games. And he has somehow scored four touchdowns the last two weeks on 14 touches. It's a really nice parlor trick, but not the sort of production you can count on. Fitz, I want to you because I asked Debrough about like DeAndre Siff first Nico Collins. Where are you ranking Nico Collins this week? This wasn't one of the questions I prepped you for, but he,

you know, again, no Pat Sertan, but this offense just against that Broncos pass rush. He's wide receiver 17 in ECR. Wide receiver 17 is where I have him too. Okay. Wide receiver 18 for me. Okay. So you guys are basically right there. Let's go to Falcons at Patriots. We can go kind of quick on this one just because it's a player that has burned a lot of people this season. But maybe some signs of life from Trayvon Henderson this last week, possibly, or if we're being optimistic here. Remodre Stevenson missed practice on Wednesday. I forgot to check again to see. Missed practice Thursday also. Okay. I thought he might have, but I hadn't written it down. So, Stevenson, not having practiced yet, it's Friday morning. Be sure to check his status later in the

day. But if we think that Ramadre is limited or maybe even missing this game, D-Bro, what's your interest level in Henderson this week? I mean, a lot. I think I'm probably going to bump him up to like an RB2. I will say to everybody, look, we can all run away from it. People are going to hate it. You're still going to see Terrell Jennings. If Remandre is out, Thorell Jennings is still going to get work. And so if you're in deeper leagues, you need to pick him up. And I'm not saying that Trayvion Henderson will not lead the backfield. I'm not saying that we shouldn't believe in him and stuff. But even last week's big breakout game, Travion Henderson still continued the same things that we've been seeing for the entirety of the season. He had six yards before contact per attempt last

week. He's still only forced one mistackle. So 10% mistackle rate and 1.5 yards at the contact per attempt. So it was encouraging. But if you look underneath the surface and you pop the hood for a second, he's still not breaking tackles. And so I don't know what's going to change on that. Like I want to be hopeful about it. But again, it's Mike Vrable. And I think we should still have a little bit Trayvon fumbled last week, which means he's going to get 20 carries this week. Well, yeah, if we're following the Brable math, you know, that fumble wasn't his fault. It's everybody else's fault. You know, we use that for Remandre.

Let me ask you this, Steve, bro, because you said you'd move him up to maybe even like an RB2 range if Ramandre is out. If Ramandre plays but has been limited all week, and by the way, the fantasy pros, are they playing tool? Gives him a 22% chance to play Ramandre Stevenson. So keep an eye on that. Obviously, more news will come out, maybe even by the time you're listening to this. But if he does play but has been limited all week, how high, how high, would you move Henderson? Because Anderson right now is RB 38. So it's a pretty wide gap from where he is in ECR to where you would consider ranking him if Ramadre's out. I mean, I'd have him

somewhere in like the low end, probably like high end RB3 range just because Vrable doesn't want to give him a high snap count. So if Ramonre is healthy enough to play, I think at best you're probably looking at like a 50-50 split or maybe we see three backs get into the mix. Maybe it's Ramondre, Terrell Jennings and Trayvionn-Henderson. As much as people don't want to see that, I think it's a possibility. Fitz, what do you think about Henderson this week? Right now I've got him at a wide receiver 35. If we're recording this on Friday morning, if Ramandre Stevenson doesn't practice today, he's not going to play. And I would propel Travion Henderson up to 17th.

I would have him right behind Jalen Warren, right ahead of the slumping Travis E.T.N. and ahead of J.K. Dobbins. And Debrough, like 10 carries last week for Trevion Henderson. Like I don't really care what the missed tackles forced in yards after contact per carry is in a small sample size like that. What had me excited last week was that Josh McDaniels finally gave Henderson some outside runs rather than just slamming him in between the tackles. And the outside stuff, that is Travion's bread and butter. So more of that, please. That's what had me excited.

I don't really care about how many missed tackles he falls. Well, I mean, that's fine. But over 53 carries, his numbers are still terrible over the whole season, Fitsy. Yeah, it's still, 53 is a pretty small sample size, dude? So when we get 100, is it still bad? Are we going to, like, believe it then? Again, again, we're just, we've been seeing a lot of inside runs with Henderson. And that, like, breaking tackles on inside runs is not really his thing, man.

Like, hopefully they'll tailor the game plan if they know where Mondeh is going to be out. I mean, I hope so. I'm just saying I don't have a lot of faith. And I'm saying that Trayvion hasn't played good this year. That's all. Let me ask you this fits in transition to our next game here, 49ers at Giants, because I want to ask about Tyro and Tracy. He's RB 16 in consensus rankings in his first game since Camp Scadabu's season ending injury. So based on how high you would move Trayvon Henderson, would you move him ahead of Tracy or are they, is Tracy somebody that still would be ahead of Henderson for you? No, I've got Tracy at 15. So I've got, I've got. got it would be if remandre is out it would be tracy at 15 Warren Jalen Warren at 16 and uh travi on

henderson 17 so um yeah i mean like tracy was the giant's leadback in 2024 from week five on and he averaged 13.2 ppr points per game which was something like rb 21 and fantasy points per game i think we see something like that again but maybe with slightly heavier usage since the Giants don't have Malik neighbors anymore like they did last year. In the four games before Cam Skadaboo got hurt, he was averaging 22 touches a game. So I think Tracy is probably going to land somewhere in RB2 territory the rest of the way, but maybe with a little more ceiling than he had last year because I think they need him a little more. Debrer, what do you think?

Is Tyrone Tracy at RB 16 too high, too low, or just right? It's about just right. I've got him a shade above that. I've got him at RB14. and this comes down to like Pat's right. Like I think he's going to probably flirt with 20 opportunities between targets and carries and everything. And the same thing. I still think this is a good matcher for the Giants offense just in general.

Like the 49ers have not been a fantastic defense. They're not pressure in the quarterback. They're vulnerable versus slot wide receivers. Their run defense is pretty pedestrian, man. Like since week four, we're discussing a run defense that's getting up the ninth highest yards of contact per attempt. and the 13th highest yards per carry two zone runs, which has comprised 62% of Tracy's rushing volume to this point. So Tracy is going to have 20 opportunities.

He's a mid-range RB2. And honestly, I won't be surprised if he finishes this week as a low-end RB1. If he gets 20 opportunities, it's an average run defense and he scores once. That's possible this week. What about rest of season? Because Fitz said something like an RB2 would be kind of his expectation going forward. Is that about what you expect, Dibro, rest of season with Scataboo out?

Yeah, I mean, rest of season, I've got Tracy at RB 20. Like, I think him, him, Rico Dowdell, Chase Brown, it's kind of an interesting conversation. That's about the area code. I think he lives in. You can let autopilot manage your fantasy

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Try Premium for free right now by claiming your three-day trial of FantasyPros Premium at fantasy pros.com slash premium. Next game here, guys, Colts at Steelers. Fitz will start with you here. Would you rather start D.K. Metcalfe or Michael Pittman, Jr. in this game. They are ranked close together. an ECR, at least they were when I put this question together. Let me check to see where they are now.

Yep, they're back to back. Wide receiver 15 and wide receiver 16 in half point expert consensus rankings. Scoring. D.K. Metcalfe or Michael Pittman, Jr.? I have Pittman, wide receiver 12, and Metcalfe wide receiver 13. So both defenses stink against perimeter receivers. Slight edge to the guy in the better offense, Pittman. D. Bro.

I've got a wider gap. I've got Michael Pittman and wider. Super 10 and I've got DK at White Receiver 17. I just think the Colts role in this game. I don't understand why they're only favored by three points. Michael Pittman. The other thing is somebody's looking ahead to my second question. Oh, well, dude, I was really trying to set you up here.

But the big point for me is I think we're not giving enough respect for Michael Pitman to. I posed this question out on Twitch and our streams earlier this week and on YouTube live streams. And I kept asking people, where do you? you think Michael Pitman Jr. is ranked this year in fantasy points per game. Dude, he's wide receiver 10. Like Daniel Jones is playing good. The Steelers secondary is dog water. Since week four, they're giving up the second most receiving yards per game to perimeter wide receivers.

Pitman's going to eat in this game, dude. So like, it's not that I hate D.K. But like, Aaron Rogers is Aaron Rogers right now. Like he's very limited as a quarterback. It's all short area opportunities for DK. Colts secondary is not good. I'm not saying that they are, but if you were to tell me like which guy I want to start, it's emphatically Pittman over DK for me. So the second question I had in this game is explain like I'm five,

why the Colts aren't a bet of the year level smash at minus three against Pittsburgh. Like it is hollow weekend. Maybe Daniel Jones turns back into a pumpkin. I don't know. I just don't see any other way where the Steelers are going to stop this offense. their defense has been horrible all year. And this has been a historically great offense. So we're halfway through the season.

Like, again, barring Daniel Jones taking a huge step back. You have to give some legitimacy to this offense at this point. Also, at the time I put together this question, this is one of five games with a total over 50 this week, which is a lot. I think that might have dropped to now. It's only four games. But still, that's a lot, you know, to be at that level for this week. So they're expecting high scoring. I just, I don't get how the Colts are going to.

not win this game by a touchdown plus, let alone just a field goal fits. Yeah. Worm, you are an AFC North fan. You of all people should know what it's been like with the Pittsburgh Steelers in the post Ben Rathosberger era. They routinely play up or play down to the level of their competition. They win games they aren't supposed to win and they lose games they aren't supposed to lose.

And that has been the Mike Tomlin Steelers for the last, what, seven, eight years? I agree that it seems like the cult should roll in this game. But I have a personal betting policy when a team that's somewhere between decent to good, which I still consider the Steelers decent. If they lose a home game and then have another home game the following week, I'm not betting against that team. Like it seems like when a team lays an egg at home then stays at home for their next game, they come out ticked off and play a good game.

And I will sometimes try to target spots like that. Case in point, the Vikings, earlier this year. They got humiliated by the Falcons at home in week two on Sunday night football. The next week they hosted the Jake Browning lead Bengals and I smashed the Vikings in that game and they just completely smoke the Bengals. So I'm not going to bet the Steelers this week because I do think the Colts are the far better team, but I'm not betting against the Steelers in the spot either. I'm in a couple of pools where I have to pick every game against the spread and I have split my two bets on this game in those two pools.

That's all fair. I don't have a lot to push back on you against, except to say that, like, I think the difference between this Steelers game and the Steelers that we've typically seen in a tournament is that this defense is terrible. And, like, that defense has kind of led them to some of these sloppy, like, surprising closer games than you would expect in the past. I just, this Colts offense and this Steelers defense in particular going head to head, I do not see how this comes out.

Like, I don't see how the Colts aren't scoring 35 points in this game, D, bro. I don't see how you're stopping the Colts, whether it's JT running the ball, whether it's Pitman, whether it's dude that we've been waiting. All right. I don't want to forecast it, but I'm just going to say we have been waiting for it to percolate up to the surface. We have not gotten a Tyler Warren explosion game. Dude, this is it. Like, this is the matchup versus the Steelers. We just saw what Tucker Kraft did.

And they've been terrible versus tight ends the entire freaking season. This could be the blowup game for Tyler Warren. Can I just add one last thing? So I'm looking at the Massey P-Body power ratings, which their ratings are a pretty good way to, like, indicate what the point spread should be. They have the Colts basically three points better than the Steelers on a neutral field. That's really surprising. If home field is worth two points, that's saying the Colts should maybe be favored by one and you're actually getting betting value with the Steelers. I'm surprised by that.

Maybe I'm just a square, but I'll be betting. on the Colts. I'll be bent on the Colts to cover. Maybe I'm wrong. And I'm probably... I'm also hopeful that the Colts win for selfish reasons. So let's go to the last game in the early slate here. Chargers at Titans fits.

Who is the toughest player to rank in this matchup? I actually thought the Chargers were pretty easy to rank. And then as far as the Titans like Cam Ward is always slotting in at or near the bottom of the quarterback rankings, Tony Tallard and Ty J. Spears are pretty close to each other and running back three range. For me, the toughest player to rank in this range, was Shemar D.K. Over the last two weeks, DK, he had four catches, 70 yards, and a touchdown against the Patriots,

then seven catches for 93 yards against the Colts last week. Wide receiver 11 in PPR scoring over the last two weeks. And he might be becoming a thing. Like, I don't want to be slow on the draw like I was with a Ronde Gadsden the second. And Calvin Ridley is probably going to miss a third straight game with a hamstring injury. So there is opportunity for D.K. on the other hand, he's in a pretty bad offense. So right now I've got him at wide receiver 45,

but I'm thinking of maybe like sliding them up all the way to the top 40. Like I actually saw DK play. He was at Wisconsin for most of his college career before he transferred to Florida for the end. He was a really exceptional kick returner, and I thought they were maybe that was sort of going to be his primary NFL role.

Like he was good as a receiver, but just good, not exceptional. I thought maybe fourth or fifth receiver, kick return specialist. But I think I was wrong about that. And I totally missed the boat on him in Dynasty. Didn't get him in any rookie drafts, even though he was routinely available, like in the fourth or fifth round. So, yeah, maybe Shamir DK is becoming a thing.

Debrough, who was tough for you to rank in this matchup? And I feel somewhat validated by this question because I stared at this matchup for a while and I couldn't think of a good angle to ask about. So I was like, well, let me just ask you. was tough for these guys to rank. And then Fitz starts off with, well, it's pretty easy to rank all these guys and these guys. So I've got we were kind of on a similar page here. For you, D. Bro, is there anybody that was your questioning or, you know, kind of having a little bit of difficulty in trying to rank? I love, I love Fancy's call out of D.K. Like, I was kind of back and forth on

where I was. Now, I came in higher than Fitsy. I bumped him up to wide receiver 37. I like the match up a ton. I like what he's done over the last two weeks. The guy for me was Quentin Johnston. And that's this, it's, I give the, there's a possibility where he burns me. And that's where I don't know where to rank him at. Like, but if you look at his usage over the last few weeks and you look at the coverage matchup, I mean, I don't think he's fully healthy. And I want to be very clear about that. I've said that. I, I take Chargers injury ports with an absolute grain of salt. I don't believe half of what they list there, Quentin Johnston, since the hamstring injury, so since return the lineup in week seven,

he has only a 6.3% target share. You look at the chasm between that and his early season usage. It's monstrous, man. So, like, I don't think he's really healthy. The other part about this is the coverage matchup is terrible for him. Like, even when he has been healthy, he's not who they go to versus too high coverage in Tennessee, as bad of a secondary as they are,

their third highest and two high rate. But the thing that leaves the light on for me, like Quentin Johnston, And if I rank him low and I kind of bury him because I don't think he's healthy. Coverage matchup doesn't go his way. The other part is Tennessee Titans, their secondary is God awful. And they're bad versus D passing. So it's like QJ could get there on two targets down the field this week.

But right now I've got him at wide receiver 38. And I'm like, is it too low? Am I crazy? I feel like I put him at this spot in the rankings. Then he's going to go off for two long touchdowns. And I'm going to look like a fool. So I don't know what to do with QJ, but in a lot of leagues, if I had him, I would be sitting him. Well, let me just ask you this, Steve, bro, on Quentin Johnston.

Like, do you think it's health or do you think, like, that first month is now looking like a real outlier compared to the rest of his career? And maybe we were saying, oh, this is the breakout and he's figured it out a little too quickly. I'm not saying that that's the opinion I have, but I'm curious if you're worried about that at all. I'm not worried about that because I think what we saw at the beginning of the season was real. And the other thing about it is you look at the coverage matchups and stuff. Like I think the lad was pressing and wasn't playing amazing. I think that lad like his reaccention and reestablishment in this offense is real as well. But I think we're seeing QJ fall to the wayside.

I think a lot of it is coverage matchups have been a lot of too high over the last few games. And he's not healthy. So I think that's a lot of it. So if you want to buy low on QJ, that's fine. You know, it's still going to be a mess moving forward. So let's go. of the late afternoon slate here, Saints at Rams. I think we can spend very little time on this one.

This one has an even bigger spread than Packers, Panthers does. The really main question, the only interesting angle here to me is, how are you ranking Saints players in Tyler Shuck's first career start fits? Really no differently. I've got Alave wide receiver 20, Shaheed, wide receiver 37, Juan Johnson, tight end 28. And I don't want to play Alvin Camara anymore, RB 26. Like, he has 31 or fewer rushing yards in four straight games,

he hasn't scored a touchdown since week one. And he's had one game with more than 30 or more receiving yards. So I think Shuck is a more aggressive downfield thrower than Rattler was. And it seemed like Spencer Rattler was a little more conscientious about avoiding negative plays than Chuck is, like Saxon interception. And Rattler did do a good job of like mistake avoidance. Shuck seems like a little more of a swashbuckler, which could be good or bad. Like I think it nets out close to even. Quarterbacks who throw aggressively downfield.

Generally, that's good for the pass catchers. But then again, sacks and interceptions are drive killers and take snaps and targets away from our past catchers. So I'm seeing this as kind of a push. Debrough, you're the biggest Tyler Shuck fan I know. What do you think about this? I love that you set that up that way. Oh my gosh.

I mean, I'm dropping the guys. It's your guy. Dude. Saints all last year. you were like suck for shuck this should be the first pick in the draft gosh man what in the shuck are we doing here i just i i don't understand what rattler did to lose the job like i'm not saying he's played well or amazing but he hasn't played bad i can tell you what he did he got drafted in the fifth round that's it if they were drafted had the same draft capital like i don't think rattle

did anything to i just dude tyler shook now i just dude to 50's point yeah he's he's he's a gun slinger but he's got a pop gun he's got he's shooting blanks dude like I know. I think he's going to sit here and try to pull some crazy moves out of his bag, but I'm lower on the guys. One, it's the matchup, but two, yeah, like, I just don't know. I mean, last week, and I know it's a small sample. I know it's his first game. I know all this stuff. This guy had an accurate throw rate of 43%. He had a catchable target rate of 65%. Like, those things are incredibly concerning because if you can't even deliver catchable targets to the guys, they can't catch the ball. They can't score fantasy points.

So, you know, versus consensus, I don't know where I'm falling on these guys because I haven't looked at ECR yet. But Chris Alive, I've got a wide receiver 28. I've got Rashid Chihita, wide receiver 42. I'm, I'll pull up the consensus here quickly. Yeah, Alavi is, okay, yeah, Alavi is wide receiver 20 in ECR. What, 20? It's wide receiver 20 in ECR. Sheed is 37.

20 is crazy. That's a wide receiver two? I got, no, I can't do that. Can't do that. We have a special offer for everyone. Unlock a month of betting pros premium for free. Download the betting pros app today. Use promo code FP1 month.

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He coming off the best game of his career right before the buy week, 14 targets, eight catches, 101 yards, and a touchdown. What are expectations for this week and the rest of season? And then 10 minutes before we started recording, he was placed on IR. So he will miss at least four games. He had a knee injury at practice. I believe it was on Thursday. He suffered that knee injury.

So this is a huge bummer. Having said that, we have to obviously pivot the conversation here because it's not even like we can't just ask about this week. This is four games. This is week 9, 10, 11, 12. Week 13 is the earliest he can be back. And maybe by the time you're listening to this, there'll be more information. about the length of this recovery and what they expect there.

But with Travis Hunter not there, Dibrow, I'll start with you. Any interest in bumping up Brian Thomas Jr. Despite his struggles this year? Is Parker Washington the guy? Like, what are you doing with this offense without Travis Hunter? I'm bumping up BTJ. And I think this is a good spot for him to get right. Like since week four, the Raiders secondary has given up the eighth most

PPR points per target to perimeter wide receivers and the ninth most receiving yards per game. I'm not scared about any of their corners. The run defense has actually been much improved of the last. few games. So I don't think Travis E.T.N. is going to have a lot of room to rumble in this. So BTJ, I do think we're going to get a bounceback game with Hunter now hitting the IR. Fitz? Yeah. Where are you going to put him, D. Braun. Good question. Like I could see high end wide receiver two. He's wide receiver 19 right now, but of course this hasn't, you know, started to fully update from wide receiver. I'm Fitsy live right now.

bumping in from wide receiver 20 to wide receiver 15. Yeah, I'm going to put him at 13. Yeah, I think it's about right. In between Pittman and Metcalf. I don't know, do we, is Parker Washington a thing? Or is it like D.M.E. Brown who's going to like benefit too? I think probably Parker, just because he's been targeted more, but I'm going to have to dive back into it for the primer.

So my first initial lien would be Parker, Washington, because Diami's kind of, have been a ghost over the last few weeks. But I could be wrong after I go back to look at it. Yeah, that's just a bummer about Travis Hunter, with the usage bump that we saw for him and the Rams. And I was anxious to see whether that was just because the Rams were winning big and the Jaguars were in chase mode in that London game, you know, 357 blot and Travis Hunter gets 14 targets.

I thought he might be able to make a serious push, though. And unfortunately, we're going to have to wait to find out. Side note on this, all those. BTJ's trade rumors that that ain't happening now. Now with Hunter out. I'm not. Nope. Let's go to Chiefs at Bills. Obviously, one of the games of the year.

This is one that everybody circles when it, you know, the schedule drops in May every year. Really never disappoints, whether it's regular season or postseason. These games are always great. So I'll just keep this one simple fits. Pick one player who's ranked too high in this matchup in consensus rankings and one player

who is ranked too low. All right. I'll start with the two low. Rishi Rice, ECR of Wide Rees 6, wide receiver 6. I've met wide receiver 4. He's already been pretty heavily involved in his first two games back. 16 catches on 19 targets plus two rushing attempts. Heavy red zone usage. So, yeah, wide receiver 4.

Too high. I'm a little below consensus on Bershard Smith, and I am starting to think that maybe the opportunity we think Breschard has, as the chief's primary pass catching back, might be a mirage. and why do I think that? It's because of Rishi Rice. Like, Rice is a short area receiver.

His average depth of target for his career, it's 4.6 yards. This year, 2.4 yards in two games. And with Chiefs head coach Andy Reid using Rice on all the short stuff, there's just not much need for a running back to catch a lot of passes out of the backfield for this team. So, like, in Rice's first game back,

Smith did have a season I-5 catches for four. 42 yards, but Rice only played 41% of the snaps. Smith played the highest snap count of the season, 28 because the Chiefs were winning in a blot over the Raiders, and I think the blowout was kind of why he got snaps and targets. Then last week, Rice was back to 86% of the snaps. Prashard Smith played nine offensive snaps and saw zero targets. I just, I think the presence of Rishi Rice might keep Richard Smith from becoming a thing. Debrose, same question.

one player too high, one player too low. Fittsia, I love you so freaking much. I toyed with the idea of bringing up Rishi Rice so much. I love that you let off with that. And just for everybody out there, in the two games that Rishie Rice has been back, he is the wide receiver one in fantasy points per game. He has averaged 24.4 PPR points per game. So if he keeps that, like, yes, we are ranking him too low.

But the other guy I'll mention here is I think we're too high on Keon Coleman. And I know he's at white receiver 45. After week two, here's his weekly finishes. White receiver 76, 69, 50. Oh, look, there's 43, 76 and 57. And the coverage matchup is horrible for him. The chiefs have the six highest too high rate against too high. If you take out the first week, which is a massive outlier for the rest of the season for Keon

Coleman, he has a 16% target per route run rate. 0.95 yards per route run against too high. Kian Coleman, he's out, he's going to be outside my top 50. I want to ask a second question on this game just because it's such a fun game, just betting it. Kansas City is laying two points in Buffalo. The total, it was 52. It's actually up to 52 and a half on Hard Rock bet.

How are you betting those numbers, D bro? I'm staying away from the freaking spread. And I'm actually, I kind of want to take the under on this, man. Like, I think like I just get a feeling this game. Like, this is also, again, 50, talks about betting rules. Like when we get these totals up in the 50s, there's so much that can go wrong on these things. And so I actually, if I, if I'm staying away from both of them, but if I had to bet one of these as an official bet, I'd take the under on the total. Fits? Yeah, I agree with

D-Bro. I'm staying away from the total. Although I don't think it's going to disappoint with regard to scoring. But if you want to give me the Buffalo Bills as a home underdog, that is an auto bet for me. I'm betting the bills. Let's go to Sunday night football here. Seahawks at Commanders. How are you guys approaching the Seattle backfield coming out of the by? Where are Kenneth Walker and Zach Charbonnet ranked for you guys respectively? Fitz starting

with you. I have Walker running back 23, Charbonnet running back 28. It's just a messy split and I should probably have them right next to each other, but I just think Walker is the better player. Debra. I legit have them back to back at 23 and 24. It's, dude, Ken Walker's season has been just capsized by the fact that he's not getting any red zone usage. It's all the touchdowns that is propping up Zach Charbonnet and it's all not scoring any touchdowns for Kenneth Walker. That that's crushing him, man. Like he's RB 42 since week four. He's RV 42 and fantasy points per game because he's not scoring any touchdowns. He's not getting any. Dude, he has only eight of 23 possible reds. zone carries right now. It's, it's horrible. And he is clearly the more efficient player.

I wish somebody in the media for Seattle would ask the coaching staff, why are you deploying the backfield the way that you are and in the manner that you are? Because I would be fascinated to hear the answer. Like, I don't understand it when you look at both of these guys and you clearly can turn on the film. And one of them is clearly out playing in the other. But we get in the red zone and it's like, nah, we're getting into the ball to sharps. Kenneth Walker is RB 23 and Zach Sharbonate is RB 28 in the consensus ranking. So they're both in that annoying range of difficult decision to make here. I think Seattle wins this game prehandedly.

So I'm hoping that they both get a lot of opportunities with the Seahawks having a lead. We'll see if that actually ends up panning out that way. But I think Seattle's going to win this game kind of running away. So hopefully that means good points for both of them. I think we can move on to Monday night football here. Last game on the slate, Cardinals at Cowboys. This is the highest total of the week. It is at 54 on Hard Rock Bet is the total, which is enormous.

And I was surprised that it was higher than Chief Spills, honestly. If I forced you guys to pick one Arizona Cardinal to rank extra aggressively this week, who would you pick? And we'll start with you, D, bro. I'm going to go Bam Knight, man. And this is not because I love Bam Knight. This is because the Cowboys cannot. One of the greatest tricks the Green Bay Packers have ever pulled on anybody in the history of mankind was convincing Jerry Jones that Kenny Clark could be the reason that the run defense could be better because it's been wondrous to see because they're still terrible.

The Cowboys run defense has still got awful. Like they're giving up the fourth most rushing arts per game, the second highest explosive run rate. I could rattle off every single statistic that freaking matters for run defenses and the Cowboys are bottom. 12 and all of them. So if you're telling me we're living in a world where Bam Knight goes for 100 yards and he gets two touchdowns, I will not be surprised. I think the touchdown equity is more of what I'd lean on here. And right now I've got him at RB19.

If you tell me he finishes the week as a top 15 running back, I would not be shocked. Fitz, I know we discussed Knight a little bit yesterday on the Thursday show with you, me and Jake Seeley already. Would he have been your pick here as well? He would have been my pick. Well, I suppose you probably would not let me take Trey McBride as far as ranking extra aggressive. I was going to ask how aggressively can you rank the number one tight-ins team? Yeah, exactly.

No more aggressively than number one. So I guess that's impossible. Oh, I guess you could rank him aggressively in flex rankings. Not that you would be starting him at tight end regardless, but you could make the case like, oh, I have them ranked, you know, top 20 in flex or something like that. If you wanted to make the case, I'll allow it. Yeah. No, it's Bam Knight. And maybe he's more of a leadback this week than a timeshare guy.

And if he's the lead back in this matchup against a Dallas defense that's given up the fifth most rushing yards and fourth most fantasy points to running backs, then yeah, he might have a chance at an RB1 finish. Where did you say you were ranking him, Fitz? So right now I've got him at RB19, but I have been thinking about moving him ahead of J.K. Dobbins and Travis E.T.N. Yeah, I think that's right call I'm moving. him up right now. Actually, Bam Knight versus Jamlin Warren, Fitsy. I'm still going to have Warren ahead. Okay. I think it's an interesting conversation, him and Jayman Warren and Kareem Hunt.

Oh, that sentence made me feel like I wanted to throw up. I was going to say what would be interesting fits to circle back to an early conversation. Bam Knight or Travion Henderson if Ramandre is out. Yeah. Probably Bam, just because I don't know what the Jennings is kind of a wild card there. For the Patriots. Mike Brable says hi. Yeah.

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