The Herd with Colin Cowherd - FantasyPros - The Extra Point: Expert League Draft Breakdown, Keeper Discussions, and Chat Q&A (Ep. 1656)

Episode Date: August 17, 2025

Join Chris Welsh and Andrew Erickson as they tackle your questions LIVE on Discord every at fantasypros.com/chat. Intro - 0:00:00 Welsh’s Flex League Team - 0:02:29 FantasyPros Draft Wizard - 0:09:18 Quinshon Judkins and Dylan Sampson Breakdown - 0:12:37 Keeping Rashee Rice in the 7th Round or Mike Evans in the 3rd Round - 0:19:55 FantasyPros Fantasy Fest - 0:27:56 Is It Worth Trading Ja’Marr Chase? - 0:31:41 Saquon Barkley Breakdown - 0:36:06 Christian McCaffrey: This Year’s Saquon? - 0:39:30 FantasyPros on Twitch - 0:47:16 Lightning Round Q&A - 0:48:13 Outro - 0:57:51 Helpful Links: Draft Assistant - Get live support during your fantasy football draft with the Draft Assistant. Connect the Draft Assistant to your draft and get real-time suggestions based on expert rankings, team needs, and positional scarcity. Get the most value out of every pick in your fantasy football draft with the Draft Assistant. Learn more at fantasypros.com/assistant or download our Fantasy Football Draft Wizard app on Google Play or App Store. Draft Simulator - Master your draft strategy by testing it out in minutes using our Draft Simulator. The Draft Simulator allows you to practice quick and fun, realistic mock drafts based on your league settings in minutes. Sync your league for FREE and try it today at fantasypros.com/mock. Follow us on Twitch - The team here at FantasyPros is taking questions all week, every week on Twitch. We've got exclusive live content there every single weekday. Follow us on Twitch at twitch.tv/fantasypros and never miss a stream! Discord – Join our FantasyPros Discord Community! Chat with other fans and get access to exclusive AMAs that wind up on our podcast feed. Come get your questions answered and BE ON THE SHOW at fantasypros.com/chat Leave a Review – If you enjoy our show and find our insight to be valuable, we’d love to hear from you! Your reviews fuel our passion and help us tailor content specifically for YOU. Head to Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever else you get your podcasts and leave an honest review. Let’s make this show the ultimate destination for fantasy football enthusiasts like us. Thank you for watching and for showing your support – https://fantasypros.com/review/ BettingPros Podcast – For advice on the best picks and props across both the NFL and college football each and every week, check out the BettingPros Podcast at bettingpros.com/podcast, our BettingPros YouTube channel at youtube.com/bettingpros, or wherever you listen to podcasts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Just sign up on the premium. But if not, don't worry. We've got some free offerings. Check out the links and do it today. Andrew Erickson. I missed you, my friend. How are we? I'm doing good, man.

Doing good. We are just under three weeks away from NFL kickoff. I believe it's 20 days away from the Eagles kicking things off. So I'm super excited, man. And I'm just trying to, it kind of seems like right now is the time where everyone's trying to get out their final takes there. Okay, these are my guys for this year. These are the final bus.

So just kind of, what is it? Crossing the T's dot on the eyes on everything, your perfect draft strategy. That's what I'm trying to do, updating everything in the draft. to make sure that, because I know that we're already going to get people start drafting as soon as this weekend, as early as this weekend. So I want to make sure that I'm available. Everything's updated. The rankings are good to go. And that you're ready to, what do they say? Dominate your league in 2025, Welsh. Well, and also, it is like real draft time. I know there's crazies. Obviously, like, you know, best balls and stuff like that have been going on. But the real drafts are starting

to go on. You next week have got your Flex League. I just completed my Flex League. Our, I, I, your friend Jake Sealy, industry leagues. I got some ringers in mine. Would you like to hear the team real quick to see how it went? Sure. Okay. And then we can reference this too, by the way, because there's some stuff. By the way, what an unsatisfactory sure.

What was that? You're like, sure. Like, let's hear some energy. Well, I mean, do the people want to hear Welsh's team? I mean, it's a good, I mean, because when you came on first, you said, I don't love the team. But that's what I want to hear. That's the point. We're going to see it.

People are going to tell me. they're going to be like, oh, this is, this sucks. You did a bad job or this is a good team. But also, there is two applicable pieces. The Rishi Rice stuff and the Jutkins news came out before this. Rice is, man, can be interpreted both ways. You know, with the, he's going to play the four games. I think some people are out there speculating that, you know, it could happen way, way later in the season.

Some people know or expect that it's going to happen mid. So I think the valuations, prime example, was our Fantasy Pro Slack channel of talking about it, but also Judkins. You know, now with him not having any legal recourse, we have to wait what the NFL is going to do, and it might not be anything. And he definitely went higher so we can talk about that.

All right, so here's a team real quick. I drafted five. Wanted Jamir Gibbs bad. Did not happen. This is the Flex League, two running back, three wide receiver, a flex and then a wide receiver tight-in flex. You don't have to start tight-ins in this league.

Single quarterback. Like Joe Dolan was in there. Steve Gardner, Jody Smith, just a bunch of people, just ringers. So my team, my two quarterbacks,

I'm not going to give you by round, I'll just give you the team construction. I took Justin Fields and Dak Prescott. That's pretty chalk for me. Running backs, Breece Hall, R.J. Harvey, Brian Robinson,

and that's one of the flexes. And then on the bench, I got Grendo, Giddens, and Chub. My wide receivers, Justin Jefferson, Travis Hunter, Jackson,

Smith and Jigpa, Egbuka, and then I got Jalen Coker, and then I also did take Jake, Jake Ferguson as like a wide receiver tight-in spot. So Jefferson fell to me at five. The league kind of balances quarterbacks out a little bit more. I really wanted Lamar, and I screwed up not taking him in the second round for JSN. Had a couple other spots where I just got really sniped to hell. But Bruce Hall, Harvey, Jefferson, J.S.N. Hunter. that's the core built around some upside plays at Buka

I took Justin Fields what do you think about the construction in a 14 team half PPR with even touchdowns for passing quarterbacks and normal touchdowns? What do you think? Sorry, did you say this was Superflex? No, this is single quarterback. Oh, okay, okay, okay.

Now, I was the one and I was the one that went, multiple teams went two quarterback, but I went quicker to quarterback in taking Feudder, and then taking Dak Prescott to have two bigger options, which is kind of if I don't get the higher-in quarterback, that's what I'm looking to do here. I'm looking to have two guys that I can interchange. And it's 14-team leagues, I think people forget, like,

it's more scarcity at quarterback. So I wanted to make sure I had two important guys in a deeper league. Yeah, it's always interesting because I think that for the majority of the time, when we're looking at leagues and teams, we're kind of entering with like a 12-team mindset. Like, we know what, like, on paper, a 12-team, roster looks like and then what a 10 team

Ross looks like and then a 14 team roster what that looks like and it's always like wow this team sucks but then you have to like oh wait step back there's going to be holes

because it's a 14 team league so I think that's a really good point to ring up so I like to do you not love what do you love let's see

I'm just trying to think back to the important parts that I remember about the roster so you said Travis Hunter is your wide receiver two? Three. No, he's three.

I have. I listed him as three. It's a Jeff. Yeah. Yeah. So my draft order essentially went, I went Jefferson, J.S.N, third round, Brice Hall, fourth round, RJ Harvey, fifth round, Travis Hunter, sixth round, Egbuka. That was like my top six.

So four wide outs, two running backs. I like the construction pretty well. It's a little dynasty-ish with like Harvey, Hunter, and Egbuka, but it's also upside in the industry league with some other core. players. Like, it's okay. I'm not, I'm not in love with the team. Yeah. Who is your starting tight end, did you say? Well, we don't have to have a starting tight end in this league. It's a wide receiver tied in. So essentially, Egbuka is my wide receiver slash tight end flex. Okay. Well, because you, did you, is Ferguson the only tight end you actually have on

your roster? Yeah. Yeah. I just took him at the end because wide receivers are really kind of crappy. So, um, yeah, a little stacker. I get that. So I think that was probably smart just to punting. I really think that when if they don't force you to draft the tight end, then you shouldn't draft one. I'm always kind of like, if you don't have to have one on your team, just don't draft one and just

do the other positions. Like we just see it. I mean, those other positions, the best receivers usually outscore the best wide receiver or the best tight ends. And the reason that we draft tight ends sometimes earlier is because of the positional advantage. But in this case, in this league, there is no positional advantage because there's no

tight end slot. So I do agree with you basically punting off the tight end position. Because I think that's always a question people run into, oh, like Bowers is falling or McBride is falling, but you don't have to start a tight end, and there's a reason why those guys don't score as many points, has some of the running back, some receivers that go in their range. So it's something that you have to kind of readjust.

So, I mean, I don't like the team's that bad. I'm definitely cooling on Breece Hall. I don't know, man. I think that he's the archetype of player that you do want to bet on, contract year, running back, explosive catches, passes. but then his specific situation. I just, I don't know, man,

the Jets have just, like, come out every single, every single time Aaron Glenn talks, he's, he just talks about I-J-1, he's a committee. It's just, like, he's obsessed

to me using these running back by committees and we'll see what happens when week one comes around. The Braylin Allen hype train seems to gain steam every single time, or every single,

every single week, every single report that we get from Braylin Allen. And not to say that Bruce Hall is bad, I don't think that he's bad again. I like him betting on him. I do think So like, I don't know if you had to make this decision, but I've thought about Reese Hall versus Ken Walker a lot.

And I'm like firmly on like the Ken Walker side of things. I'm pretty firmly on the brief side, but I know I know what you're going. And Ken Walker was gone, I believe, when I ended up taking him. I know what you're going with. But I love the touchdown equity that's still going on. Fields absolutely loves him. I'm a war. Now I'm worried about Braylon Allen taking some of that short yardage stuff.

but I also think Brice is going to be spread out a lot more. Here's a really cool feature. Can kind of let you guys know about, which is awesome as well. When I was doing this, I was not able to be at a, you know, a computer so I could have the draft assistant going on. But something that's kind of forgotten about is you can be done with your league. And that doesn't mean you have to be done with the draft wizard because you can go, because we've talked about like at nauseam in the best ways, by the way. The draft assistant mock draft lobbies, draft intel.

telling you about your league. But I have insights up the wazoo once I synced my league. And you can go to your dashboard. And I can just tell you right now, I'm given a 62% chance to make the playoffs. Projected numbers, by the way, way way better on here too than what this is done on Sleeper, what Sleeper was giving me as far as projected points in the week

with a 58% potential for winning in the first week. And I was given a projected 8 and 6 record being top 5. in the league. So that's a pretty cool thing. So going in and checking the dashboard, even if your draft is done, you can go and check out from waivers to top available. You can use the trade stuff that's in there. And you can just get some analytics on your own team. So go and do that. Sync up your leagues today. I'm taking a look here. It's actually making me feel a little bit better about my team since I wasn't able to do that. We can also, as we go here, because I don't want to take everybody else's time here because we've got an

audience with hands raised. But if anyone is curious as we go, feel free because we can take a look at where Jutkins went. We can also take a look at any of the oddity. We had some stuff with some crazy stuff that happened in this league. Jalen Waddle went in the second round, which was a, which was a really big one by a very prominent person. Um, Jutken. Who did that? Who did that? Who took Waddle? Dolen. Dolan did. He had the very, he had the number one overall pick. Dolan knows. Dolan knows. He had the number one overall pick. And he took Waddle with the last pick in the second round, which.

Dolan probably knows that the Tyree Kill trade of the Chiefs has already been drawn up. It's going to happen. The Rice thing, dude, it just makes all sense now, right? Rice is going to be gone for the majority of the season. They're going to need someone for the playoffs. They trade for Tyree Kill at the trade deadline. It's Jalen Wallet to the moon. And we're back.

Yeah. And Jalen Waddle overs. Jail. Oh, just wait for the prop show for me and Erickson. We're back with it. So I got my Flex League. We can talk about any of those things and some of the references. I definitely do feel better now, actually, looking,

because I had not been able to look at the insights of any of my stuff when we were going on. But it makes me feel a little bit better about it because you can go to, there's the league analyzer, which is breaking it all down, which I'm looking at here, projected standings. I'm in the playoffs, 8 and 6 record. It shows playoff odds. It's just championship odds, which is really, really cool. and I am projected to finish better than Joe Dolan.

So that's all that I'm looking for at the end of the day. It's all that anyone is really looking for is to finish higher than Joe Dolan, who we did a killer show on the Fantasy Pro channel. So check that out soon. All right. We got a bunch of hands raised. Let's get to it. Stop talking about my team and let's talk about your team.

Up is who you keep this. You've kept this name, my friend. Who TF is Welsh? On the line. What's up, brother? Hey, man. So I'm in a slow draft in Joey P's Black Book League. Right now I have the chance to take Samson, but I'm a little kind of put off by doing that, considering the Judkins news.

Is it still worth grabbing him or no? Okay, that's a good question. You always sound like, right now you sound like tired D-Bro to me, but you always sound like a variant of D-Bro every time he's come on in the season, which always kills me. someone's going to love that. What do you think, Erickson? Are you still pro-Dillin Samson, who's had some running with the ones? We're briefly talking about the Jutkins thing. What's your take on Samson now that Judkins is going to be back?

I think it's probably cool a little bit. I think that the Samson, the excitement around Samson was, okay, he can really establish himself to start the year and make it hard for the Browns to take him off the field, essentially, and even when Judkins comes back because Judkins as a second round pick, what does that mean? That means, okay, he's going to get opportunities in this offense.

But if the Browns decide, well, we're already getting good production from our fourth round pick, we don't have the need anymore to put Judkins onto the field. Now, if he's going to be coming back sooner rather than later, I think that that definitely throws some cold water on Samson. Also, you have the Browns offense

where I'm not exactly sure, that there will be a league winning running back emerging from this team if it's a bottom 10 scoring unit. That's always a concern. Now with Joe Flacco, kind of anything can happen. You know, if they're running fast-paced and the Brown's offense, at least last year, wasn't like worst for fantasy football purposes just because they threw a ton. They were playing in shootouts and a lot of that had to do with James Winston. But Joe Flacco does bring some of that type of James Winston ability to some games that they're going to, and they also play the Bengals in week one. So that can be a game that could be pretty high scoring. I wouldn't rule,

Samson out completely off my draft board because I think that Judkins will still probably get suspended at some point and that's going to give Samson more opportunities. But the fact that Jerome Ford has also still been involved in is kind of viewed as the main guy. I think that

if you're playing for the back end, I'm not so sure that Samson will be the guy then because I think that's when they could look at Judkins as an opportunity when he does finally come back. So during those money weeks, I'm not necessarily sole on the fact that it will be Samson as the running back for the Browns. It could be Judkins. So I guess for me, it's a little bit more about roster construction, right? If you were really hurting on some of this early season production, I think that Samson is probably worth it a little bit more. So it's kind of counterintuitive where we usually bet on rookie running backs to hit in the second half of the season. So Johnson could have that type of value as well, but I think that Juddkins potentially coming back does, you know, make that a harder bet to make. So if I do need early season production from running backs. I think that's probably what I would do. Okay, so let's play this game then.

We'll just do it. Where do you think Jutkins and where do you think Samson went in my flex draft last night? Just go by overall because I'm not going to try to get the rounds because it's 14 teams. So it's going to get all messed up for me. Oh, I would say. Then I'll try to translate it because I was going to I actually want to do rounds by the yeah, I won't know the rounds. That's so we can do the math. Okay. So for me, I would say that both guys probably went inside. I don't know. I'm going to say that. So let me guess. Did Judkins go first? Well, just guess that I don't want to tell you who went first. Well, I think Judkins went first.

Okay. So you think, John Kvin? Okay. So keep on. Okay. So I'll say that Judkins went somewhere between like picks 70 and 80. Okay. take. And then I'll say that Samson went, you know, around like 100, 110. And then where do you think Jerome Ford fit in that mix? Probably like 130. Okay. So you're saying last. Last.

Okay. So Judkins did go first. Okay. And I think based on the math, you're right-ish, he was the second to last pick in the sixth round. So he ended up being an RB2 for that team. That's aggressive. It does it, yeah. Samson went. Samson went with the 10th pick in the 11th round in the 14 teams.

So that's like 160. Yeah, yeah. 160 range. Jerome Ford third to last pick in the 10th round. So Samson was last in this, in this industry league. Ford went, again, trying to do the stupid math here is like 1,50. something. Samson was like 160, 70

and Jutkins was a top six round pick in that, which probably makes them closer to a seventh or eighth round pick in a basic 12 team, but that's the translation math for you, for Jutkins versus Samson. And I know that we're getting a question here too from who TF is Welsh. So he's asking in the chat

what I draft Kyle Williams instead. And this kind of wanted to ask too, like who else was on the board at the time he was drafting, I would still take Samson over Kyle Williams. Kyle Williams is still a round three rookie wide receiver who is still working his way up the death chart. And just I think that if Samson hits, it'll probably be in a similar way that Kyle Williams hits.

And I'd rather have that hit at running back than wide receiver. So I would still go with Samson. So I know I had a kind of long-winded answer when we first opened up the, because there's a lot of ambiguity with it. But I do think that Samson is, he's a talented running back. And I don't think that it's not nothing that the Browns took him in round four. Jerome Ford has been a replaceable level. running back. He's fine as a stop gap, but he's not the future that the Browns are investing in.

Remember, he took a pay cut to stay on the Browns, right? So the Browns were like ready to move on from Jerome Ford pretty clearly. Then obviously this Juddkin stuff happens. So and yeah, still chance that judge can get suspended. And that puts Samson in the driver's seat to just, you know, get the coaches trust. I think Simpson's a value at this point now. Like he was starting to move up to an uncomfortable level. Now we have a complete other direction correction. So I think he is someone you can take at the end of your drafts. and you should, just based off of the probabilities of the uncertainty at that running back position and what could happen to Judkins and what you said about Jerome Ford and Samson have been running with the ones. So that comfortability is starting to build. So I think he's a, he's a really good bet at

the end of drafts right now. Let's go talk to Jay. Jay, what up? What do you have for us here today? With the book? Is that what that is? There we go. Yeah, it's like a, it's like a book on your head. Yeah, it's like someone with a, you got to unmute you. the mic though, Jay. I wish I could unmute for people, but all right, you can re-raise your hand going in three, two, one, sold, J sold, but just re-raise your hand, figure out your thing, and, all right, let's see, you did it again. Let's see if we can get you.

Oh, no. Jay, we're going to put the book over your eyes. All right, you don't have it figured out. You come back when you have it figured out. Bryce. Or throw a question in the chat, too. Yeah, exactly. What's up, Bryce?

Hey, guys. How we doing? Doing good, dude. What you got? So I just inherited a team in a 10-man half-PPR Superflex with tight-end premium scoring. We get three keepers, and I think I've figured out two of them. I got Jared Goff for my 11th round pick and Kittle for my fourth. I feel relatively good about those two.

The last one is Rashi Rice and the seventh, and I don't, that's like the only other one that would make sense to keep. And I really just not sure how I feel about him. You got to give us a couple, even if it doesn't make sense, like, if that's, that's the only one we're going to say yes. Like, who would even be like perceivably another option or two? The only other person that I would, other than the two I mentioned, the only other person that I would consider keeping is maybe Mike Evans, but I'd have to give up my third round for him.

Okay. Okay, so the question is, is like, are we comfortable with keeping? This is just, this has to turn into a rice versus Evans question then, because what round was rice? Rice would, I give up round seven. Okay, seven. All right. So Evans, round three, rice, round seven with potential looming suspension. What do you think?

I think that the rice price is palatable. I think if it was higher, I'd probably be more bearish on it. But round seven, I mean, if he's healthy, he's healthy. on the field and playing for a certain amount of weeks. Like he should be able to return that. I think that Evans is definitely the safer pick. I mean, I don't think that that's really up for debate. Like Evans basically goes in round three of most drafts anyway in a normal 12th team

league. And I'm expecting him to, I think we talked about on the wide receiver tier show. I just said, Mike Evans locked and loaded wide receiver two. Really don't have any reservations. Yeah, he's a little bit older. And they brought in some other guys like Bucca, but God, and still coming off the injury. McBillan up and down, rookies. he sees and we'll see how much he eats and do Mike Evans but he still got Baker Mayfield and

you know Mike Evans has weeks where he absolutely explodes so I think it's a risk reward type of you have to kind of weigh that and ask yourself that question I would just I would embrace the risk with rice personally just for around seven I think if it's more expensive I'd probably shy away but if you just want to lock in the points with Mike Evans and not deal with rice which is going to be you know probably a headache throughout the season also a chance that it could work out in your favor. It's swing for the, swing for the fences with Rashi Rice, which I usually try to encourage people to do in fantasy, you know, upside wins championships. And Rice has a ton of upside, especially for a round seven keeper. Also, not to like be cold watery about this, but like, I'm going to

get, I mean, you are inheriting a team. I'm going to guess Jared Goff and George Kittle aren't exactly the best keepers that people are going to be keeping. So there is a scenario where you might be stepping into a situation where your team isn't exactly built to win this year. So A, having a guy like Rishi Rice, assuming you get to keep him for the following season is fantastic because you know, suspension would be gone. And taking a guy at a lower cost for a team that might not be massively competitive, you want as many picks at the top as you can to try to hit on some, you know, to hit on some guys. You know, so like the third round to me doesn't make sense.

Again, I'm not trying to say that this is definitely a rebuilding, not going to win. team, but I'm going to guess it's probably in the lower, because he said it was a 10 team league. 10 team league and you're keeping golf and kiddle. That's not the best. So give yourself as many opportunities to get great players later and keep Rice. And Rice will be a great keeper the following season, you know, as long as all is good. Yeah, I do, I do think that Rice, when it comes to just like what his projection is this year,

I know we haven't really talked about him specifically with his situation, but I do think it's going to be 2026 will be the year where Rice actually does kind of like live up to all of the hype per se. I know I was getting kind of concerned about his ADP when it was rising, I think like a month or two ago before all of the, before we thought he wasn't going to get suspended at all. And then Schaefter drops the bomb. He's going to get suspended. And now he's not going to get suspended for the first four weeks. But now the concern is maybe it's going to be a longer suspension, more to six to eight games. I was reading some reports that suggested that the NFL is getting.

getting tired of these speeding violations, and they're going to try to set Rice as an example in terms of, okay, well, we're not messing around going, you know, related to what happened with Henry Ruggs. And that situation was obviously terrible and what happened with Rice also a very terrible situation. So I think that they may try to lay down the hammer here with him and knock him for a significant amount of games. We also got five years, like five years probation. Like, yeah, It's severe enough that the NFL isn't just going to be like, you know, like Jordan Addison. That's why I have always believed whenever it was going to be, it wasn't going to be four games. It's six to eight in my mind.

And that's what worries me. So it's like, everyone's like, oh, hey, I'm going to get Rashid for the first four weeks. This is awesome. It's like, well, it's not if he's going to be then suspended for eight, you know? And then it's like maybe you'll get him for the playoffs if you're lucky. It's like taking an injured player that's going to be out for two months. Yeah, when I I posted a video about this

on the Fannie's Pro's YouTube channel I just kind of talking about there's like a very fine best case scenario with him where he plays the first four weeks immediately gets suspended after that and then he's back for you during your playoff run

and then you also hope that okay he took some time off he was able to kind of get back to where he was because you also have to remember he is coming off a season 90 injury like that's another thing too that I think during training camp

it seemed like he was all fine but then all the suspension cup kind of took over that discourse when it came to Rashi Rice. So, yeah, a very confusing player overall. And I think you really need to weigh where he goes in your drafts. I think that there's an opportunity cost with him where it does make sense. But you kind of have to have a plan with him. It's actually interesting. Somebody recommended you draft Rishi Rice and Jordan Addison at the same time. And you have Addison fill in once Rice gets suspended when he comes off of his suspension. So there are a couple ways where you can

fill in that hole that Rice is going to leave on your roster if you do it in the If he falls significantly enough. But I would say round seven, I think that that is a fair price. I don't know if I'm going to do that. I mean, maybe if you get a bunch of suspended guys. Yeah, like a bunch of suspended. Like, hey, by the way, I also took Chris Godwin. That was cool.

And it's just like, nah, like I'm good with all of that. No, no, no. And I totally get that. It's, it's, I mean, after. But you could do it at four and five. Your wide receiver four and five, that makes it interesting if they were bench guys. Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what?

We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. we created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts.

Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes.

I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas, and then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Ladano and our podcast Point Game is about defining the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before.

And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reed. he has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense.

And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash would get that thing. That man, hell get to fly. He run up the court, licking his fingers, why he got the ball. Like, after you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, but it goes back to the point that I made, I think, a few minutes ago

where I think that the Rice season that we all want him to have statistically is probably going to happen in 2026, not this year, even if he does have flashes again. And you're hoping if you draft him that it is during the fantasy postseason when he comes back. And the other thing I want to point out as well with Rice, because I think it's worth the discussion is when you draft him, you're not going to be able to probably trade him, right? Because who's going to, like, well, it's like, who's going to go approach you and be like, like, hey, I'll buy Rashi Rice from me knowing he's going to get spent for like eight games. And if they try to trade for him, it's going to be for nothing.

So once you draft Rashi Rice, like, you're, you're kind of like locked in. I feel like. I don't know if you disagree with that. But that's something that I was also thinking about where you have to commit to, okay, he's going to be part of my draft plan and my draft team this year. And I totally understand if you decide, I, yeah, no, this seems like a headache because, yeah, there's going to be hurdles you're going to have to overcome when you put him on your team. Yeah, that's a, um, you know,

major bed, you're going to lie in its situation. The only thing that's going to happen is, like, he plays four games. He gets suspended six. And then around like week eight or nine, some teams try to start coming around being like, hey, I'll get your Rishi Rice for you and I'll eat a week or two. And it's like, no, thanks. Like, that's what it's going to end up looking like. So you make your bed, you lie in it.

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Bogman or me? Who do you have? In Madden? Yeah. Bogman. So it's fair because I, I probably haven't touched like a video game in a long time, but I have, I've always had Bogman's number. I'm a menace in Madden, but I haven't played it in two years.

So just putting that out there. So this is like me coming out of retirement. This is like I'm coming out of retirement to get back out there, kick the field. But Bogman gets your early vote. Is Bogman one of those badden players where you just have to beat him once or twice on a couple plays? And then he starts to spiral because that's how I am. I'll be really, I'll be focused on trying to move the ball methodically down the field. But the minute that I throw an interception or make a mistake, it just becomes full out, engage eight,

every single play on defense. Foreverts, every single play on offense. I should get really frustrated. And that's when I get really aggressive. And that's why I start doing really dumb things. You know, I would actually say that's probably closer to me, to be honest with you. But I'm a menace on defense. That's the big problem.

Okay. I'm really difficult on defense. I hate defense and men so much. Yeah. When you try to like, everyone tries to do their same thing, they're like, okay, you know, didn't get my wide receiver deep. Let me go my tight end middle. Like, I'm good with linebacker coverage.

So defense is where I get a lot of stuff done. Bogman is more of a cool cucumber. But he plays MLB the show. He's got more video games. Well, guess what? You guys can come and hang out. You can probably use channel points to vote. We'll have some fun with it.

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pictures, but you do have to unmute your microphone. PSA, unmute your microphones to everybody moving forward, but what's up? What's up? Sorry about that, guys. No, no, you're all good, dude. So I've got a dynasty trade question, but it really acts more as a redraft question. Shoot.

So, potential trade that I would be giving up to Mar Chase, which is the big problem. Hang up I'm having in the deal and trying to decide if it would be worth it. So it'd be giving up Chase, Hawkinson, and a 27 first, which should be late since I'm a contender, but the other side of the deal would be getting Brock Bowers, Drake London, and Garrett Wilson.

So I know Chase is pretty clear the 1-1 receiver this year. So kind of just trying to figure out how big of a drop from Chase to London. I know a lot of people are high on London, especially at Fannie Proses this year, with his potential upside. So it's a 10-team league and half-point tight-in premium. So does that make it worth going to Brock Bowers to give up? Only other question real quick. What is your other wide receiver depth?

It's really good. I have Nico, A.J. Brown, Olave, Addison. Yeah. All right. Okay. So this is interesting. I'm like him and Han here because that's a situation where he's already got demons at wide receiver. And you're just going to add more depth of them. I mean, Titan Premium, are you willing to give up?

You mean, you're not like getting nothing back. You're getting London. I mean, you're getting Brock. I mean, you're getting Brock back. No, no, I totally understand that. Like, are you willing to give up Chase to get those other two guys in pursuit of Brock Bowers when he has that type of wide receiver depth or no? I think so. I think that that's probably, I mean, is Chase going to be the triple crown winner again this year?

I mean, maybe. Maybe. Maybe. Somehow that Bengals. I mean, I still think Chase can be the wide receiver one again. but I also do love Drake London. He's also 25 years old, still super young. And if Michael Pennix hits in a big way,

well, then the London Pennix connection is going to be something that's happening every single year between these two guys. So you could see them taking that leap. Garrett Wilson has established a high floor. We're still waiting for him to potentially hit the ceiling with some quarterback. Maybe it's with the fields.

Maybe it's not. Maybe it's still another quarterback to be named later. But you know that he's good. We know Garrett Wilson is good. And he's got Nico and AJ Brown. So like we got to assume. Ribs, type in the comments. Can four wide receivers start?

Is this like three wide receivers and a flex? That's pretty important here, I think, as well. Because not to be dismissive of it, but it's like, if he's like, hey, it's two wide receivers and no flex, then it's like, I mean, you're always going to not start one of those guys. It's really becoming about chase for Bowers. Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking too. Two wide receiver, three flex. Okay. So you can start.

all those wide receivers then. Yeah, I think that I think that's enough. I know it's always tough to try to, when you're thinking about trading Chase in any capacity, because he's one of the highest, it's not the number one dynasty asset, an individual player, but you're getting Brock Bowers in a tight end premium,

and Brock Bowers could be the tight end one for the next 10 years. And would that shock you, Welsh? No. I mean, no. Definitely not. I think it's, that's a very, that's a very, getting back for Chase.

It's a very fair trade. It's a very fair trade. I personally, I'm always never the biggest fan of these, like, quantity for the quality. But this is one of those scenarios where it's not like the dudes like,

hey, I'll give you Jaden Reed, Joanne Jennings, a second rounder, and Brock Bowers. I mean, still, Brock Bowers is great. He's giving you, like,

great stuff. Like, you're getting wide receivers that could be easily top five and the best. tighten in there, which is a huge upgrade. So yeah, I think you can do it. It's tough to give up Chase, but I really do think you can do it.

So it's a good question. Axel, Axel in the house. What you got, dude? With an unmuted microphone? Pretty, please. There we go. Hey, well, sounds like you got that user, man. Yeah.

There's a little bit of a, I'm a, bogman will attest to it. I'm a menace with the user stick. So we'll see if that end up playing out. Who do you got, Bogman or me? I got you, man. Come on. My dude, my dude. All right, what do you got here?

So it's clear that everyone's fading Sequin. So if that's the case, why is he still a top three running back? And at what point are you willing to take them? How far does you have to drop? Yeah, I love that. By the way, and great question, brother. Very, very funny tweet. The hat tip to that Drake Mayer.

account you i think it was you or mayor uh put it in our site and this dude is going viral hat tip to him and we love it personally care fantasy pros but if you haven't seen the tweet it's it's a like a sleeper draft and it's and he circles saquan barclay going three and it was jemar chase going to but drake london is the first pick and he goes can you believe this idiot took saquan barclay at three or some like that and drake london going the one one is sitting there one of my I think Mayor said it like a Hall of Fame tweet

is pretty dang good pretty dang good where everybody's doing the same jokes this was very creative and I know you had to like it so this is more of a question

for you because I got Seekwon at RB3 you are the the Sequin hater what is the what is the limit where's the spot

where you actually pull the trigger on Seacron because what do you have them at RB 42 75 no I don't have him an RB 42

I mean he still have him as a first round pick Quinn John Judkins or Sequin Barclay? I'm not Sequin Barclay. All right, no, but where do you have him? And, like, what would be the point where you would take him?

I mean, I'd take him at the back of the first round, but he's never going to be there. So that's, look, I've said what I've said. I have, that's how I feel about Barclay. Just, I'm trusting the process. Yeah. I had worked last year with McCaffrey. And then the year before that, people forget, who's Josh Jacobs. Same exact type of thing.

Same exact bet. But what are, what are B do you have him at? What is it, six? He's five. Still have one top five running back. I mean, I just, I basically have to be in a room with a bunch of other people that also feel the same way about Saquan for me to take him. So I am, I am always kind of interested if that were to happen where it's me, it's Joe and other people that aren't that are lower on Saquan versus consensus. If we were all in a room together drafting together, you know, where would Saquan actually be drafted in that ridiculous case?

Because eventually somebody that is quote unquote not high on Saquan would eventually have to take him. because I have to acknowledge that, okay, I still think that I'm still going to draft him probably over Derek Henry, even though I think Henry probably has a higher floor than Sequin does. But like compared to the wide receiver, let's get like, and I know you're not incorrect when you say like it's not going to happen, but let's play the world where it does like you're kind of alluding to. What's the wide receiver that you would pass to take Barclay?

So we already know there's four running backs are going to go. We know Chase. We know Jefferson. I'm going to assume it's easy to say lamb and puka. Brian Tom Like what's the wide receiver where you say okay I won't take the wide receiver I'll now take Sequin

I'll take Sequin over Malik neighbors Oh you will over Malikma What do you have Malik at? Five? Six He's at 12 seven Wide receiver seven Okay so like

In half PBR We're saying we're saying 11 Like 11 or 12 is truly the spot where you are comfortable taking Seqan Yeah back end of the round one Okay I just wanted to get like He'll never be there No, you're not wrong about that.

Actually, did you have a follow-up? Your hand came back up. What was your follow-up to this? Is Christian McCaffrey this year, Sequan-Barkley? You know the best bet I had last year? It was so easy. I had done a combo bet of Derek Henry and Sequan Barclay to just both go over 1,000 yards.

Dude, that thing cashed, I think, in like week 11. I don't know if you remember me talking about that. It was the easiest. I don't remember that, but yeah, that's. And I got great odds because it was like injuries and do-da-da-da-da-and all that type of stuff. What do you? You're going to double down this year? Well, it's not.

I'm not going to get as good odds. Mine is 600. Yeah, exactly. If I want to make the real big bet. Sick. Would, like, what does it take? Like, can McCaffrey play that? I guess just getting back to Axel's question.

Like, are you, like, could you at all feel comfortable that McCaffrey? he could be this year Seiquant. And what he means is like a back that's going, you know, wheel-ish and ends up being just, you know, absolute beast and number one overall guy. With him, it's always tied to injury. So I guess it's like, I don't hear anybody talking about his ability. It's just the injury. So it's like, I guess the answer's got to be yes, right, Erickson?

Like if he's not hurt, he could be this year Sequin. Yeah, I don't think that end will be like totally shocked if, especially if you're measuring his success on a points per game basis, you know, if McCaffrey just runs back similar to what he did. In 2003, I mean, I have McCaffrey as a top five running back. Actually, I had Sickle Barking. So I, sorry, I misspoke. So what, you broke up? You had Seekwon where?

He's an hour before. Sorry. Okay. And what, McCaffrey is five? Yep. Yeah. So the other issue, though, is when we do this a lot in fantasy where we're trying to copy and paste what happened last year, right?

Okay, who's going to be this year's Bucking Irving, right? Totally get that. But the year before that, what were we trying to find? Well, this year is Pooka Nakuwa. And who was it? Nobody. There was no Puka Nakuwa. There was no, you know, day three wide receiver that totally, you know,

exploded just because these trends don't always happen year after year. It's actually, you know, years apart that these things start to happen. So last year, it was the running back veteran renaissance, right? There's all these veteran running backs, and even Bunting was pointing out in the chat, you know, talking about how usually it's the process to fade veteran running backs on a new team. Obviously, Derek Henry, Sequel and Barclay, Josh Jacobs, all were very successful in their first years with these new teams. And it also coincided with a really bad rookie running back class. You know, last year's rookie running back class was when we looked at top to bottom, not a very strong class.

I mean, Jonathan Brooks was the first guy drafted and he barely played. Trey Benson, Blake Corum, guys that barely played. And the two hits really from day three were Bucky Irving. who was underdrafted and obviously was a big hit. And then Tyrone Tracy, who was able to beat out Devin Singletary and become the giant starting running back. So when we're talking about and reflecting on this year,

you know, the story of the running back this year, is it just going to be exactly what happened last year? Oh, well, veteran running backs just smashed again. I mean, maybe. Maybe it's just a repeat. The sequel is exactly like the original. They just try to run back the hits. But I'm more in the camp of thinking about,

well, this rookie running back class is way different than last year's. and I think that this rookie running back class is going to be the story of this season. And that's why when I'm looking at the round one, am I chasing last year and the year before that with Saquo and Barclay and Christian McAfree? Or am I trying to chase who I could be, who could be the number one pick next year with Ashton Genty?

Like when we're talking about 2006, who's going to be the number one running back off the board? Is it going to be Barclay, McCaffrey, or Ashton Jentee? And I think it might be Gibbs. Excuse me, Bijon. But again, I have been. Gianna Gibbs in a separate tier ahead of those guys. So that's why I just didn't bring him up.

Yeah, no, I was just being stupid. No, no, no. You were keeping me accountable. Welsh, that's what we do in the discord, has we keep each other accountable. But that's just kind of how I'm kind of thinking about this potential season. And I wouldn't surprise me, Barclay and McCaffrey start out hot, you know,

as older players, they're fresh right now. But as the season wanes, you know, are those going to be the guys that are there in week 15, 16, 17, that are winning you the championships? or is it going to be Ashton Genty? You know, this Uber talented prospect, nearly perfect prospect profile where he should see 300,

350 touches for the Las Vegas Raiders, who I think is an underrated team overall from top to bottom, upgraded the quarterback position with Gino Smith. So that's something that I'm thinking about when we're projecting out this season. We know, what will be the story for the running backs? And I'm just not convinced that it's going to be the exact same thing

we saw last year. Yeah, and I would just come back to say, back to the question of like, can McCaffrey be it? Absolutely, because there's a similarity in that McCaffrey, Barkley's talent was never really in question. He was now going to a better situation and you're hoping to avoid injury. Same thing with McCaffrey.

So McCaffrey's healthy. He absolutely can be, but his cost is rising more than Barclays is. You never saw Barclay go in the first round really last year, or I didn't a ton. I think McAfree went eight in my league last night, the industry league. No, he went, sorry, he went 10. He went 10 last night. I will say, too, that if we're trying to make a comparison, and I talked about him a little bit earlier.

He was something that I just did some more research on today. So with Sequin, obviously he was on a new team, but there was no debate on, okay, he's in a much better situation that he's been in previous years. And if he's healthy, he should be able to smash. And we obviously saw the talent with Sakele and Barkley as a rookie. And when I think about those type of optics,

I honestly think about Ken Walker a little bit where what's kind of stopped him? Well, he's being injured and the Seahawks haven't really been the greatest situation for him. And now you can debate, you know, well, they have Sam Darnold, like, how great of a quarterback is he? I think that, you know, I'm not going to post him up on this pedestal. And it's not a, oh, he's playing for the, he's running behind the Eagles offensive line anymore, not the case. But, you know, out of Seahawk camp, they've talked about how this is the first time that Ken Walker's playing in a run first offense, an offense that wants to feature him more than previous regimes. And McDonald has talked about featuring Ken Walker. And yes, I know that he's been banged up

and they're really trying to maintenance his workload. But, I mean, we're always talking about, well, McCaffrey stays healthy. If Barkley stays healthy, well, what if round four Ken Walker stays healthy in this offense that last year with Clint Kubiak, Alvin Camara, was number one among all running backs and expected fantasy points per game. So his role as the RB1 in Clint Kubiak's offense was better than anyone else in terms of scoring fantasy points. So when you then consider where Ken Walker is going, round four versus all these other

running back we're trying to make the upside cases, that's what I'm making my bet on, is Ken Walker. So that's another player I wanted to throw out as someone that maybe we're not talking about as an upgraded situation and why they could thrive if they end up staying healthy. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I see it. I think there's a little, I mean, offensive line, Charbonnese there. There's some questions. I don't want to keep hashing on this, but it's really good conversation, great breakdown stuff. It's very good.

Joe, Joe's a premium member on the Fantasy Pro Discord. Joe hasn't been up yet. Let's get Joseph's, unless you don't like being called Joe. And then we're going to do a lightning round on some of the questions in the chat. I see a couple of our guys who have already been up. We usually don't bring guys back up. So if you have, drop in the chat, what's going on. But Joseph, hit unmute, drop the question, and Liz Role.

You get Fernando Tatis picture. You unmuted, but we can't hear you. Your mic not might be set. All right, you figured that out. There's an audio settings thing here on Discord that you can test. You figure that out, baby. it. Let's do a little bit of a lightning round in the chat before we get out of here. But we want to remind you guys, we mentioned we got the after party on Fantasy Pros over on Twitch.

But if you're not aware, we got shows on Twitch every single day. That's right. The team here at Fantasy Pros are taking your questions all week, every week on Twitch. Erickson and Tom Strachan talking best balls on Monday at 4 p.m. Eastern. We've already mentioned this coming Tuesday at 7 p.m. Eastern. Good Lord. Can't talk. Bogman and Welsh, we're going to be playing Madden 26 live. We've got Seth Wolcock and DeBrow answering question on Wednesday at 2 p.m. Eastern.

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I am scrolling back up. to see if I can find some of these questions. Need more Caldwell. Jutkins. Where does he fall in a rookie draft rankings relative to Tet, R.J. and Caleb. So lightning round, what do you think? Is Jutkins kind of back to his original cost value? I kind of think so.

I mean, I think that he's just going to go at the end of the tier. I mean, Hampton's going to go in front of him, Henderson, Harvey, obviously. I mean, maybe people will now take him over Caleb Johnson. I personally wouldn't do that. I would still take Caleb Johnson over him. And then I still think the first round tight ends will go ahead of him. Cam Ward will go ahead of him probably in, I mean, definitely in Super Flex. I think that that's not really up for debate.

And yeah, all the receivers, McMillan, Hunter, Agbuka, Golden. I think that he's probably going to end up being in that Burden Higgins tier. And I think that he'll probably go ahead of like Trey Harris, for example. Like I think that's probably where someone would stay. Oh, right, all right, he's back. I'm going to take him now because I think that before all of this stuff happened, and he was clearly ahead of the second round wide receivers. Now probably he's probably in the mix there.

And I don't know. I mean, some people have been disappointed with Caleb Johnson after preseason week one. I personally don't really care that much about it. I don't care about one game. Yeah. Yeah, I, it's not. Everyone's like, oh, he's a bust one preseason game.

And they're just like, we got it wrong. All right, let's give it a little bit. All right. All right, let's keep going. Remember lightning round. Would you rather Gentie or Achan as your hero, running back and full PPR. Genty.

Super close. I might go HN on that. Full PPR. Both good options. Yeah, they are good options. 12 man PPR starting two running backs, two wide outs, three flexes. Oh, I think that was just the answer to the thing before. What is the best choice between CMC, Nico, Puka, or Genti?

A full PPR, three wide receiver format and a 10 team. That's from J. Roney. This is probably for you going to go back to Genty. Full PPR, though. Where is this question in the chat? Yeah, it's in the chat. It's right above the Michael Scott meme. That's what the chat in these do, by the way.

People are dropping memes and answering each other's question. It's very fun during these shows. But CMC, Nico, Puka, or Genti, full PPR, three wide receivers in the 10 team. I still think I'm going with Puga, man. Yeah, Puka's hard to pass. I just, I believe in the talent. And yes, the Stafford thing is definitely concerning. But they have Jimmy Gropo there as a backup.

And he's competent enough to get the ball to Puka, who just get so many scheme looks in this offensive environment. And Puka's just a beast, man. He's so good. I'm going to feel like an idiot if I decide, well, I'm not going to play him because Stafford made me miss a game or two. And again, remember, Stafford is a warrior. This guy will play through basically anything to for his teammates.

So I think that that, I think maybe we're overblowing it just a tad. I'm willing to scoop up puka if he falls. Gironi also asks best sauce to dip a breakfast burrito in. I feel like some cheese based sauce. Really? I would mother. Someone in the comments said, or who T.F. is Welsh.

Verdei salsa. Salsa. I agree. I like some salsa with burritos. I'm not a big breakfast burrito person. Or an avocado guacamole. Well, it's like a breakfast burrito, though, is rocking like, like guacamole would be good, but it's like

eggs and stuff in there, right? You're not doing like a traditional You could put salsa on eggs. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, I guess people do. Just some cheese based thing sounds really good. But Dick said, hypothetically, if Hill did return to the chiefs, does that significantly decrease Worthy's value? Make this quick. I don't want to go too crazy on that

because it's a big hypothetical. I know that's been rumored. I just don't see how that's going to happen in any capacity. I know there's the weird stuff with with Tyree Kill and two and all that. But like, the easy answer is yes. Like if any big wide receiver would return, like, it's going to affect everybody's value. Yeah, I think it would just make it a fantasy mess, to be honest.

It would just make it a nightmare, especially. But you can see the clear need for the Chiefs to add another wide receiver. Right now, worthy is healthy. Rice is, we don't know what he's going to play, when he's going to play. and the guy they were expecting to be that third receiver, Marquise Brown, has already heard again. So I know this is a hypothetical scenario, but if Hilda gets traded, it takes two to tango, who wants to trade for him? The chiefs make sense, especially based on their current wide receiver needs, potentially. Obviously, they drafted Jalen Royals, so maybe he can step up, but I, again, I wouldn't be shocked.

V. Lundee, and what round would you be targeting McMillan in drafts? 12 team, three wide receiver half PPR with pick 11. That's, you'd probably have to do it, uh, probably four, four or five. Yeah, round, round, round four. I think we're, everyone, it's almost a wheel. He's pick 11. So like if you wanted to risk it, but I'd probably take him with that, uh, that pick in the, well, hold on one, two, three.

Well, no, because four and five have the big turn. So yeah, you'd have to do it at four. Yeah. I think that McMillan's going to be such a beast. He's such a beast. When we pull out the week two rankings, he's going to be, I think he's going to be consensus top 20. Dude, I was so, I was so pissed. I wanted him in that Flex league.

And he went, I took Breece Hall in the third. And then he went three picks later in the third pick, or I'm sorry, the second to last. No, no, I'm screwing this up. Second pick in the third round. So I didn't even get a chance before my third round pick to take him. He went high. went before Marvin Harrison, check out who he went before.

He went before T. Higgins. Oh, wow. Garrett Wilson. Marvin Harrison, Mike Evans, DJ Moore, Terry McLaren, and Devante Adams. Whoa.

We're going, baby. All right, well, just, but listeners, you're not going to have to do that in your legs. No, you're going to be able to get him. But even if you still reach around or two where his ADP is listed on some of these sites,

you're going to get them at a great value and you don't necessarily be that aggressive. But round four I think is, hey, let's pull up Tet. Let's snag him here. Yeah, well, it didn't the third round there. Oh, sorry. Tetaroa Mcmillan. He doesn't like to call Tederoa. Tederoa.

His mom doesn't like it to be. It's Tederoa. I'm comfortable with it. Or TMAC. He says TMAC is good too. There's too many TMACs though, isn't there? Who's the other TMAC? Is it Terry McLaren?

I don't know. He's TMC or F1. I feel like there's another team act and there's a basketball like McGradie What is basketball What is basketball? That is it That is the show though

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It's going to be five straight hours. I'm in the middle. I'm going to be hosting an hour of the Fantasy Fest. So whether that's good or bad for the listeners, whether you avoid it or you're in. I'll be an hour. And I got hooked up with some huge guest as well. And then I will be a part of the draft party. but we're going to be talking ranks and sleepers, mock drafts,

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