The Herd with Colin Cowherd - FantasyPros - The Extra Point: Gearing Up For Playoffs, Tough Week 13 Decisions, and Chat Q&A (Ep. 1870)

Episode Date: November 30, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:30 you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Welcome back, everybody. It's the Extra Point. I'm your host, Scott Bogman today with my man, Andrew Erickson. Erickson, a little under the weather, but you're weathering the storm here. So we like to see that. So if Erickson sounds a little different, it is because he's a gamer and he's showing up here to get it done. What's going on, Erickson? You feeling better? Yeah, definitely feeling better compared to earlier in the week, but still a little nasaly, so I apologize for those that are listening at home, but here to help people answer their questions, fantasy lineups need to be set regardless of health status. So even though I'm on
Starting point is 00:01:10 the injury report, we're going to show up and we're going to show out. Let's go. And we can talk about Thursday games on this one, on this edition, finally. So, uh, yeah, lots of fun. But, uh, let's dive in here before we get to the questions. Let me remind you guys about the fantasy pros Discord community. You can chat with other fans and get your questions answered that end up on our podcast feed. The current schedule right now is warm and fits at 5 Eastern, the first Tuesday of every month, myself and Fitz at 5 Eastern, the third Tuesday of every month in Welsh and Erickson
Starting point is 00:01:47 on Thursdays at 2 Eastern except for today, come and get your questions answered and be on the show at Fantasy Bros.com slash chat. All right. first person up here with their hand raise is Devo. What is going on? Devo, how can we help you out today, my friend? Hey, how's it going? I got a, I'm probably just going crazy here and probably should just stick with my guys,
Starting point is 00:02:14 but I really want to see where I can fit Michael Wilson in. But currently I have Nico Collins, Chris Olave, AJ Brown, and Tet. So is there any way I'm starting Michael Wilson over any of that? If so, who? What do you think, Erickson? I don't know that we get, give us those wide receivers one more time, Devo. It's Nico, Olavé, A.J. Brown, and then Tet.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Will you start Michael Wilson over OLAVe, Erickson? Is it full PPR or half PPR? Full PPR. Okay. Yeah, I mean, so Mar's not coming back, right? Like, is he's out this week? Do we know? I don't know that we're 100%.
Starting point is 00:02:58 early injury reports. I would think, yeah, I would think that he's probably down one more week. Okay, so we'll preface it with that. He's got to be out. If Marvin Harrison Jr. comes back, I think you can probably just bench Michael Wilson, although I don't think that he's going to go away entirely.
Starting point is 00:03:14 I think compared to those other options, you probably can't do it. I'm looking at my rankings to kind of see. I got him right next to Olavé, so I think that probably would be the move. I don't think that you're taking on like this insane amount of risk. if you bench Chris Olave, just because he's attached to a rookie quarterback playing on the road,
Starting point is 00:03:32 and Miami's kind of been pretty good against rookie wide receivers this year. So that would be the guy I would bench if you're trying to jam in Michael Wilson. Olave's ranked higher in ECR, but I can get behind the case. So I think that your initial read bogs with Olave as the sit would be, would probably be the move. Yeah, I think I'm 100% with Erickson. If Marv is in there, you can't do it. Although we did hear Gannon say that even when Marv, Marv comes back that Wilson is going to be higher priority, like in the pecking order.
Starting point is 00:04:01 He's going to have more plays designed for him and things like that. But also, he gives us this cryptic update on Marvin Harrison. It was like, well, if his mind, body, and soul are all ready for him to be out there, then he'll be out there whenever that is. So it doesn't sound very positive. So probably roll with Wilson this week, Devo. So, but just make sure that Harrison's not playing. Anything else for us, Devo?
Starting point is 00:04:28 Nope, that was it. I'll leave the face-off questions to the face-off guy when he shows up. Awesome, good stuff. All right, let's see. Jack, you are up next, my friend. What is going on? Jack, how can we help you today? You there, Jack? Jack, park twice if you're in Milwaukee. All right, raise your hand again. We'll get it. We'll get it figured out, Jack. Serge, what's going on? Surge, how we doing? Is this working? There we go. Good. How are you guys? Doing great. How are you?
Starting point is 00:04:59 All right. Two quick ones here. One, just kind of want your guys' thoughts on the outlook of Diggs' rest of season after Campbell goes down. It doesn't look like it's season ending, but going to be out for a few weeks. And also, Booty coming back. That's your team, Erickson. I'll defer to you here. Yeah, it's really unfortunate what happened with Campbell.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Look, I guess it's possible. You can see each other of the Drake May efficient. kind of tail off a little bit. But I mean, to his credit, he's been overcoming, like, pressure most of this season. The cluster injuries are concerning them because it's not just Campbell, it's also Jared Wilson that also got hurt.
Starting point is 00:05:41 But, I mean, the matchups are still so good for him rest of season. Like, he just played, like, everyone in the Patriots play is just bad. Like, every single team they play. And I know that they're going to get destroyed in a playoff game this year because they're going to finally play somebody good.
Starting point is 00:05:56 And so I'm just trying to keep that in perspective, even if, like, they get the number one season. I'm just very, I'm very tebid about like, oh, I'm all in on this team just because they really have played just the absolute cupcake of schedules. So I don't think you can really do anything with digs. I do think that it was kind of concerning that his routes dipped so significantly when Booty came back. I didn't really think that was going to be the case. But I would say it was kind of a, everything kind of bad. It was like the worst case outcome last week.
Starting point is 00:06:25 The Bengals have been really good against number one wide receivers, as weird as that is to say. They're actually the number one team in terms of allowing fantasy points to wide receivers just because they're so bad against every other position. It's just a one time the quarterback's just like, hey, look, I can get the ball to everybody else. Look at this. Yeah, they just don't cover tight ends. Like Hunter Henry was wide open by like five yards in every single attempt that he got, whereas Diggs is getting blanketed with coverage.
Starting point is 00:06:47 So look, he still is the alpha in terms of the target leader and the offense still has been really highly efficient this season. So maybe he doesn't get up to low end wide receiver one numbers. like at times we thought that he could do. He's probably just like more of a mid-range, wide receiver two. Drake may continues to throw two touchdowns every single week. I mean, I think that he's going to be fine for the most part. So that's probably where I would rank him like in the 20 to 16 range.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Yeah, I agree. I mean, there's not much you can do there. But hopefully we just get more quick passes for him. True. You know, Will Campbell win on the IR today, didn't he, this morning? Yeah. I mean, technically he could come back. It's one of those types of IR.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Sure. I.R. You always have to, like, specify. It's it season ending is the four-week IR. But, no, yeah, definitely a brutal, brutal loss. Yeah, he's been so good this year. So great question, Serge. Got any more?
Starting point is 00:07:42 Or is that the one you had for us? Yeah, just one more quick one. So I had Tucker Kraft. Obviously, he went down a few weeks ago. So I've been streaming Joanne Johnson most weeks. But, I mean, with the increased usage of Taysam Hill and kind of like his running role is, is this the, the Phantom Taysam Hill go chase it week? Or should I just stick with Joanne Johnson from the Saints tight end position?
Starting point is 00:08:10 What do you think about chasing, Tasem Hill, Erickson? Because I just think it's a losing effort most weeks, right? Like, it's just, it's kind of at random. I think you can see it sometimes, but even like when he had seven carries a couple weeks ago, didn't amount too much. So, I think it's hard to go, you know, chasing those waterfalls like Taysom Hill, right? Well, I would say that, I mean, last week he had 10 carries. So, like, you had even more. I mean, his carries have gone up in four straight games. So two, four, seven, ten.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Camara's down. Look, we always talk about playing for upside. In your opinion, bog, to be straight with me. Who has more double-digit touchdown upside? Tastom Hill or Johnson? You know the answer's Taysam Hill. It is, but in a PPR league. I think I'd still rather have Juan Johnson week to week.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Week to week, right, but in this particular matchup against Miami, like, I don't love that it's on the road, but. Yeah, no, Camara. This is a week to hunt him for sure. I just feel like, as soon as I do it, it's, hey, look, one catch for 70 yards and four runs for three yards, right? Like, I don't know. But I guess it's like, well, what are you going to get from Juan Johnson?
Starting point is 00:09:23 Four catches for 60 yards? Like, is that, like, so, I get that that's higher. again, Johnson has a higher floor, but... He really pops off when OLAVe gets hurt. Yeah, and we want upside. It tastes some hill. Again, Camara's out like this is... He doesn't get opportunities where he's going to get double-digit,
Starting point is 00:09:38 double-digit carries, touches, whether it's past attempts. I mean, last week he just ran bad. Again, I was watching that game closely because, or at least like watching the box score because I had Tase-Mil any-time touchdown. And Camara goes down. I'm thinking, all right, wheels up. And he gets like, he gets like 17 attempts in the red zone that, can't score.
Starting point is 00:09:58 And I'm just like tilting my face off. So what about what about this? Who would you want between AJ Barner and Taysam Hill? Because they run Wildcat near the gold line, the touch push with Barner. So he has an extra, you know, he has an extra path to a touchdown. Would you rather have Barner who's already out there getting catches or would it be Taysam Hill? I think it's still Taysen Hill. I think I'm really to roll the dice.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Look, I talked about it last week. I thought last week was Tazim Hill week. Never wrong, Boggs, just early. Yeah, okay. Yeah, right. I kind of like, I like players and coaches, screw it up. That's what it is. I like, I like Hill this week.
Starting point is 00:10:39 So I'd roll the dice. I mean, upside for sure. If you're, you know, if you're looking at that, those projections and your 10 points or more behind, just roll Taysam Hill. That's what I would say. Play that upside. Especially in a half and a half BBR for touchdowns more. Yeah, absolutely more.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Yep. Thank you, Serge. Good questions, my friend. All right. It looks like we have, who is this? Man, I need to ask this. Zek. I'm not sure how to say your name. What's going on? What can we do for you, my friend? Is this working? I think I broke it. All right. How about Dredis? What's up, Dredis? Dead air here. There we go. What's up, Dredis? Erickson, I raise your sick and raise you one laryngitis. Oh, man. It's like I'm an award of the hospital here. Yeah, I just had a few start sick questions. If that's okay, I'll put it in the chat. Of course, yeah. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Let's see. All right, full PPR. First one, Erickson. Tyrodder Shuck. Let's see. Man, whenever it's these garbage quarterbacks, what does ECR think? Because I don't know what if I have a lien.
Starting point is 00:12:01 I have, I mean, I got, I got, I got. I got Terad. No, ECR's got Tarad. I got Terad. It's Super Flex, so I can potentially put somebody in there instead of one of those because I got Stafford as my main QB. I'd keep, I'd roll the quarterbacks. Yeah, me too.
Starting point is 00:12:18 They just have, like, I mean, like, they get 15 points. That's, like, a bad game from a quarterback, and, like, that's, like, decent game from most, like, skill position players. So I think the floor is too high. So I would just go to Tarad. Yeah, I would go with Shuck, but, I mean, flip a coin. You know, I think they're both in the same QB. QB3 borderline there.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Strange or Henry, Erickson? That'd be Henry Against the Giants on Monday. And Strange at the Titans. Probably Hunter Henry. Hunter Henry. Yeah, more like the score, I think, as well. And then here's one.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Sit one. Rico, Mokonki, Olave, Diggs, and Juan Dale. I think it's Juan Dale. He's been so good with someone. Man. Is it Diggs? Yeah, it's hard for me to sit Wondale. He gets like 11 targets
Starting point is 00:13:16 every game. He does. Maconkey? Maconkey or Diggs? No, I don't want to set McCongy. Do I not against the Raiders? Man, maybe I got to move Diggs down, honestly. Because I'm looking at this and...
Starting point is 00:13:32 Start Olave over him? Can't... I can't take... I mean, is it... Do you just sit? I can't say, I mean, do you sit RICO against the Rams?
Starting point is 00:13:41 No, like, dude, I mean, he's been like seating touches to Chibahubbard though. Like,
Starting point is 00:13:46 it's like, his usage has not been that great the last couple weeks. No, yeah, but they had like 44 middle of range. They had the ball
Starting point is 00:13:51 for 22 minutes. No, no, no, you're right. I think if they have the ball for 30 minutes, you're going to get a full assortment of carries
Starting point is 00:13:56 from Rico. So I'm not benching him. And I think, yeah, the split was still 75, 25, 25, with him this last game.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Yeah. I think it's probably a lot of it then. I just think that rookie quarterback on the road against Miami, who is just, again, one of these defenses that's like low-key, not that bad against fantasy-wide receivers,
Starting point is 00:14:16 not because they're like particularly good, just the way that teams play them. You could see things go south for the Saints' offense, whereas Diggs, playing the Giants, Wondell's playing the Patriots, or bad against wide receivers. Conkey is the number one receiver for the Chargers.
Starting point is 00:14:30 So again, if you just like look at like, which quarterback, fact you want to fade again we're already talking about fading shock so so i guess i'd fade his number one wide receiver so um i guess it's a lobby because i feel like he's the one that's like less likely likely to totally burn me so that's what i would do at least it's a good question we sat in him and haught on it for a long time so obviously yeah a tough one to answer very very nice at us and then this last one is uh one flex waddle harvey or neil i think i'd toss neil so it'd be uh swattle or harvey for me
Starting point is 00:15:01 It's Waddle. Waddle. Okay. Yeah, I think so. Should have known better than to ask Erickson to sit Waddle. Hey, hey, look at the production. The production speaks for itself. I'll say this.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Archie Harvey's playing Washington. That's true. I still think Waddle's safer, but Harvey has more upside. This is half PPR, by the way. Is there anyone else you can sit? There's got to be someone else. And I'm not sitting H.N. Or Cook.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Nope. Okay. Or Pickens or CD Lamb, so no. Nope. It's a good spot to be in, though. That's a great lineup. So I think just go with Waddle. You have enough upside there already.
Starting point is 00:15:45 Well, too, I think, too. So to your point, Bog, so this is where the floor ceiling thing kind of play. See what Dallas Cowboys wide receivers do this week. If they suck, then you've got to know, okay, I got to shoot for upside. Maybe that's Harvey. Yep. You know what I mean? He scored twice.
Starting point is 00:16:00 So you can change your lineup a little bit. And then if they both smash, it's like, don't risk falling into the Shane Payton shenanigans. Play Waddle. He'll be fine because you already year up 40 points because Pickens and Lamb went off against the cheese. So maybe you don't make this final decision. Hopefully CD won't drop the ball 10 times this time. Is he going to go three weeks in a row where he drops a touchdown? Who knows?
Starting point is 00:16:23 I think he's just allergic to the Eagles. So outside of that, he's been pretty good. when he's not hurt. All right. Thank you so much, guys. Have a good Thanksgiving. You got it. You too, Dread us.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Feel better, lady. Man, yeah. I see. Feel better. Banshee says, speaking of voice options, this stuff is going around bad this season. I can't remember my wife or kid not coughing anymore.
Starting point is 00:16:46 So it sounds like everybody. It's the season, right? That's right. We used to get, when I lived in Arizona, we would get summer colds sometimes. This is still worse in the winter because that's when it's going around.
Starting point is 00:16:57 But you get the same. summer colds because everybody's inside in the summer because nobody wants to go outside because it's so damn hot. So it's kind of the opposite effect. So it happened to me a couple times where I got a summer cold in Arizona. But this is typically the time. Maddox, you are up next, my friend. What is going on?
Starting point is 00:17:14 Maddox, how can we help you today? Can you hear me? We got you now. Perfect. All right. Perfect. So first question, I've got Kenneth Walker. I've got Devin Neal, half-p-R.
Starting point is 00:17:28 If Kamara's out, do I start kneel against the Miami defense? Mara's not going to play. So, yeah. So you're going. So he's going to start over Walker? Over Walker, Eric. Oh, no, not over Walker now. I thought you were just asking.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Out of a Walker. Okay. No. Camara's definitely not playing. He's definitely out this week. But not over Walker. Not as a 10 point home favorite against the Vikings who are just spiraling right now. Just being bro.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Brosemer. Like, dude, poor guy. And Max Brossmer? Come on, man. Dude, it's bro. No, it's brosmer. Brozmer, of course it is. Bro. Bro.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Don't make me bro you. No, bro. Bro. Brough. Brosmer. Yeah, well, like it was Blake Brodels. Should have been Blake Brodels. If there was someone that I was ever going to be bro, it should have been Blake Bortals,
Starting point is 00:18:18 for sure. But, yeah, no, I would, I would play Walker. The Walker got pretty good usage last week, played his highest snapshot of the season. and Mike McDonald and all of his press conferences since that game, he's been talking about how he felt
Starting point is 00:18:30 Ken Walker on the field and that's from the coach speak index. That is pretty bullish for me that the coach is feeling his running back on the field that, okay, this could be sticky
Starting point is 00:18:41 and a positive game script. I think Walker could see north of like 20 carries in this game to be honest. So I think he could have a big game. Okay, awesome. Second question, last question. So I've got Norland's defense,
Starting point is 00:18:54 I've got Pittsburgh defense, do you like the two defense playoff approach? Or should I stick with just one? And if so, which one? Typically, I don't do two defenses. I just play matchups every single week. And I understand knowing it, if you have the bench base for it, it's fine. But I would rather handcuff of running back, even if it's not going to give me anything,
Starting point is 00:19:22 than carry two defenses most weeks. What are your thoughts, Erickson? Yeah, I would just keep one defense. And because again, you're going to be competing with less teams in the playoffs to get defenses off the waivers anyway. I don't know what Pittsburgh's schedule rest of season is for defenses. I know that the Saints schedule is pretty good. So that's the one I probably be rolling with just based on your overall aggregate matchups. Dolphins, Lions, Browns in the playoffs for the Steelers.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Yeah, I mean, Lions is bad. I mean, obviously the Browns is good in Dolphins. So, yeah, I guess, I mean, if you don't like anyone on Rovers, waivers, I guess it's fine. But, I mean, you can probably drop with the Steelers playing this week again. The bills. They're playing the. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:06 So drop them this. I mean, do you think someone's going to pick them up and start them? Probably not. So. Yeah, not against Buffalo. You can. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:14 So. I'd rather grab, like if Brian Robinson is out there or who's another hand, a handcuff you'd want to just. Most would actually be me right now because I have jenzy. Yeah, not bad. Just in case he doesn't. I don't know. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Like. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah, I would rather do that as well. So anything else for us, there, Maddox? No, that's going to be it. Awesome, thanks, man.
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Starting point is 00:24:42 questions kind of like from start sit um advice here so i have a league where you know i know we know joe burrow's coming back uh this week and you want to play on thanksgiving but i also have bo necks against the commanders what do you guys kind of see who to start or any insights on that. That's a good one. Where are you going there, Eric's in between. Bo Nix,
Starting point is 00:25:03 who is still a high score, but seems to take three quarters to get going recently, or Joe Burrow coming off IR against the Ravens on Thursday. Yeah, this one is really easy for me. I think it's Bo Nix. I think it's the commanders.
Starting point is 00:25:20 And look, I don't know if I'm like taking crazy pills or something, but I don't understand Joe Burrow as quarterback eight in ECR. Like, this guy is coming off so much missed time. And Tom Stracken tweeted this out last week before we thought Joe Barrow was going to play. His quarterback finishes in week one, the last three seasons, QB 28, QB30, QB 31. Like, I just, I don't understand the confidence that, oh, yeah, he's going to drop back in and just fire on all cylinders. Like, that makes no sense to me.
Starting point is 00:25:49 Now, maybe I'm just wrong. Like, I would be totally willing to eat the L if I'm wrong. I get, it's Joe Burrow. and that's hard to argue against, but we got a pretty large sample size of him coming back after a long layoff and doing absolutely nothing. He's also missing one of his best wide receivers
Starting point is 00:26:07 and T. Higgins against the Ravens on the road and their defense has played significantly better than they have to start the year. So I don't... It's obviously... I don't understand. It's obviously Bo Necks here, but let me ask you, now that we're here,
Starting point is 00:26:20 how far down is Bo Nix on your rankings this week then? because I I'm sorry not both you be night you be no Joe Burrow is QB 19 like I'm not like like the only guy that I would probably start him over of like someone that you like might have having is Brock Purdy and that's because he's placing the Cleveland Browns on the road okay like I I I just I don't know like my my crazy box I don't because like I'm seeing like he's ECR's QB8 like it's a head of Dak Prescott yeah I like look I I understand that and I and I moved him down as well I got him at I got him at I got a at 10. I don't have him at 8. So, and I have Bo Nix at 8, by the way. So just looking at that. But I think what you're seeing is, you know, this isn't week one. It's middle of the year. He has already played this year. He's been at practice every single week. Yes, you're right. He's coming off an injury. But he also looked good to go on Sunday. And they just decided not to play him because this game is on short rest. And we've seen Jackson Dart get dropped in with no experience and have huge weeks. We've seen Jacoby Brissette as a backup come in. And
Starting point is 00:27:24 and blow up. We've seen Mack Jones come in and blow up. So I think that, I think it's the reason to buy. But those guys weren't coming off injuries, though. I understand that. But those guys were coming off injuries. I get it.
Starting point is 00:27:33 Like, that's the thing. But I think that's what, but I think that's why the rankings are like that. Okay. So you're trying to justify it. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:41 I'm not justifying it personally. But I'm saying, and, you know, it is a decent matchup against the Ravens. They haven't put pressure on quarterbacks well this year. The coverage hasn't been great. So,
Starting point is 00:27:51 you know, I think it's the matchup. the fact that he probably could have been back last week and that we've seen other guys drop in out of nowhere and have huge weeks. I think that is what is leading towards this ranking. Okay. And look, again, I'll go credit to, look, he's also,
Starting point is 00:28:06 like when I thought about, like, posting something about this because I just can't get on board with where he's ranked this week and maybe I'm wrong because he is Joe Burrow, right? Right. Like at the end of the day, like, you want to start Joe Burr because not Joe Burr? Like, I don't care. And that's how I'm wrong because he is one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL when he is 100% healthy and 100% right.
Starting point is 00:28:26 I'm just very suspect of that being the case here in this matchup behind. Again, this is still a bad offensive line. They're playing on the road, which you don't like for bad offensive lines. He's missing T. Higgins. This is, it's just like, we have a sample size of him without one of these guys in the lineup with Higgins. His efficiency falls off without T. Higgins in the lineup. So I get that Chase is back, but like losing one of your main guys and replacing
Starting point is 00:28:49 with Mike Gaseki and Yoshibos, like, it's not the same thing. It's just really not. So that's why I'm hesitant. Like, I just think that this is rank is way too aggressive. I think that the Bo Nix versus Burrow is a total layup. I mean, he's placing the commanders. They're terrible. It's so bad.
Starting point is 00:29:07 And there's no risk with Bo Nix. He's a mobile quarterback. He runs. He's healthy. He's been good and good matchups this year. So look, maybe in some other debates with I could maybe entertain Joe Burrow again. It's like Joe Burrow, Brock Purdy. Give me Joe Burrow.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Like, I'll take the risk because I don't want nothing. to do with Purdy against the Browns on the road, like after his Monday night debacle. You don't want three more interceptions? I do. I do not. I mean, you can probably drop Brock Purdy because no one's going to pick him up or playing this week, and he doesn't want to buy next week. So, um, so, so that's my, my, my, uh, my long soliloquia on Joe Burrow.
Starting point is 00:29:43 I don't know. Like, and maybe I'm, I look, I'll be the first one to admit ETHL. Um, if he balls out on, on Thursday night, I'll probably be asleep during that game because I don't know if I'm going to make it to the, to the whole, uh, Thursday. a night football game, but, uh, we, uh, we shall say. Yeah, I understand. D.B., you see this hornets nest you kicked up here. Uh, that was awesome. What a great question. Yeah, no, I just, I wanted to get a chance to talk about Burrow. I didn't get a chance to talk about any other shows this week. Um, just because I, I don't know, I, I just, I'm very much against the market here.
Starting point is 00:30:14 And I'm kind of interested to see what happens. Great question. Yeah. I mean, I definitely feel like borough is probably going to be a better start, like maybe further down if they keep a activated, don't shut them down, you know? But yeah, my other question was, I don't know, I mean, I'll dispisance, I was a toss-up, but I would just, so I have the Patriots kicker right now against the Giants. Do you guys have any strong opinions on any kickers this week? Like Harrison Bucker is on my waiver, you know, against the Cowboys. So I don't know if I want to pick up a different, you know, different or just run with, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:49 Andy Boragallis against the, against the Giants. I'd take the Chiefs kicker indoors, you know, should be a high-scoring affair back and forth a little bit as well. So I think I would just take the safer kicker, and that would be Bucker. Yeah, I agree. If we have to have kicker opinions, that would be mine. Yeah. I think, too. So I heard this on another show.
Starting point is 00:31:13 This is like the first dome game the Chiefs have played in, I think, like, eight weeks. So they haven't played indoors. I wonder if he gets nervous about it and whiffs because of the game. that then. Because he is now he's kicking under pristine conditions. I will say what Buckker does love to do because I have a Chiefs fan buddy that we go back and forth with Buckker a lot, he loves to miss like a 42-yard field goal and then hit a 56-yarder. You know what I mean? Like nobody loves to miss a 42-yarder like Buckker does. He loves to miss those mid-range ones that should be automatic and then hit the impossible ones. And every once in a while, an extra point.
Starting point is 00:31:52 too, which is frustrating. But he's still a pretty good kicker. It's why he's been around for a while. Don't love his opinions on a lot of things. But as a kicker, he's pretty good. So appreciate you, D.B. Good questions, my friend. Obviously brought out the fire in Mr. Erickson here.
Starting point is 00:32:07 I just, I don't know. I just, that one to me just, it just sticks out like a glaring thumb this week. And look, I'm very interested to see what happens. And again, I'll be the first admit that, oh, no, Burroughs back. Well, dude, when I opened it up, he wasn't. Yeah. He wasn't at 10. He was at like five.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Like, he was way up there when I, when I started making my rankings and I did the, what are we doing here? He definitely needs to come down. So I was with you, maybe not as fiery as you. And I obviously didn't move him down enough.
Starting point is 00:32:36 But, uh, yeah, I get it. Like you, you're coming off the IR. Uh, I don't care if it's a,
Starting point is 00:32:42 you know, a matchup that you're familiar with or not. It's still the Bengals own line. So definitely has to be a little lower. And even like, if you look at like some of like the betting stuff, like the Bengals team total this week, it's like 21 points. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:56 So it's not like the market's expecting this. Chase Brown's not getting any of those. They're all going to Jamar Chase. Yeah. So, again, we'll see what happens. It's 300 yards and three touchdowns. I'm surprised you didn't know that. Bucksman, what is going on, my friend?
Starting point is 00:33:12 How are we doing? Bucksman, you there? How's it going, fellas? What's going on? How we doing? Doing good, doing good. So, I have three questions. First one is surrounding Lamar.
Starting point is 00:33:27 He ruined my week last week. I had Jemar Gil's, and because of Lamar, I lost by four points. So can I start Burrough or Lamar this week? I mean, Bucksman, you just listened to what I just said. I mean, I'm going to start with Lamar Jackson. Yeah, I go with Lamar, too, and I understand your frustration, Bucksman, but I also think that it's like, you know, you have, you have Lamar for a reason. And he's going to go, when he gets, he may not be right this week, but when he gets right,
Starting point is 00:34:03 he's going to carry you. So I understand the trepidation. And, you know, even because of this, you know, he didn't practice day one, but he practiced in full yesterday. I think he'll be better. 100%, I don't know about that. But I think 75% of Lamar is better than 100% of a lot of a cool. quarterbacks out there. So give me Lamar still.
Starting point is 00:34:23 I came him in that league. And another league, half-p-r, would you do Lamar or Stafford? Ooh, that one's closer. What do you think between that one, Erickson? Yeah, man, this one definitely is tougher because Omar feels like he's definitely more risky, just because of the injury stuff in Stafford.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Dude, McVeigh's trying to get this guy as many touchdowns as humanly possible. Yeah, I know he wants him to work. Yeah, so, and he's facing the Panthers who lost like three of their secondary starters last week. But they picked off pretty a bunch. Come on. Yeah, yeah. It's, yeah, and then, and now all those guys are hurt.
Starting point is 00:35:09 So like, J.C. Horn's probably not going to play because he has a concussion. Are you projected to win this game or is it a tight one? The one where you have to say it's a tight one. Then just give me Stanford. Give me the safety. I think you've got to play, probably play it safe here with Stafford. Again, it's just like, I get like the nuke, like the 35, 40 point game is Lamar. But Stafford, I mean, does he have a game?
Starting point is 00:35:33 Like, has he busted at all this year? Like, does he have like a bad? I don't like, I don't think so. Like, so. He had, yeah, if you're squeenish with 10 points. The whole year. And I don't think Lamar, Lamar doesn't have 10 points in back to back weeks. 7.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Which is very, very sad. That's correct. Yeah. Yeah. So I would say just don't be on tilt if we do see Lamar go off against the Bengals because Stafford will still give you a top 10 performance. Yep. I am at like four and six.
Starting point is 00:36:06 So, yeah, if it's close and I want the safety, just give me Stafford. So that's how I would work as well. Got it. All right. One more question in the Deep, Deepa League, half-PPR. Would you go Addison or Yoshavossi? Yeah, it's got to be Yoshi because Brosmer. Can't.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Yeah. You can't. You cannot. Yeah. Like Jefferson was, Jefferson was probably got the overreaction from Brossmer on the, the ECR. But Addison definitely had an underreaction. I moved Jefferson up and moved Addison down. So.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Addison is wide receiver 47 in ECR. And that's, he's buried. He's buried. Yeah, no T. Higgins, Joe Burrow back. It's got to be Yoshi. Yeah, you ought to do Yoshi, Voss. All right, cool. Thanks, fellas.
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Starting point is 00:37:40 Head over to Twitch.tv slash Fantasy Pros. Give us a follow so you never miss a stream and ask your questions live. All right. Let's see. is that n s what is going on you're up next my friend looks like you're on mute there on your mic figuring it out
Starting point is 00:38:02 we got you yep go ahead awesome I had a couple of questions my first one is a start sit I have one spot open to my flex I have Rico Dowdle Darnell Mooney Cortland Sutton and Aaron Jones
Starting point is 00:38:18 So it's it's Rico Jones Sutton and Mooney Yeah two receivers and two running backs And we're so we're starting We're starting one of these guys I'm sorry You're sitting one player You're starting one of these guys Rico Rico yeah Rico
Starting point is 00:38:38 Rico easy okay And then my next question I know you guys talked about it a little earlier But I kind of cut out during that time But about the whole Drake May Will Campbell situation is he still startable? I'm kind of projected for playoffs,
Starting point is 00:38:52 and I kind of want to line up my quarterback before it starts. Is Drake May still startable? Yeah, he's definitely still startable. Yeah, you got, especially this week against the Giants. It is just, we'll have to see the adjustment. I don't think it's going to go, you know, back to how horrible it was last year,
Starting point is 00:39:11 but it does suck that Will Campbell and Jared Wilson went down at the same time. So it's frustrating, but he's absolutely still startable. Awesome. Erickson, before I head off, just some good news for you. I had burrow stashed. And on the deadline, I traded him away just for scraps just to get him off my roster. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Get rid of burrow. He sucks. Yeah, I sold him as soon as I could. This is going to be so bad. Thank you guys. Perfect, N.S. Thank you so much, my friend. You're the burrow hater now.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Did you know that? No, I don't want it. It's just this week, man. like when it's week 17 against the Cardinals, he'll be up, he'll be back in my top five quarterbacks. So let me ask you something. But just this week. Why do you hate him so much?
Starting point is 00:39:56 All right, you just, are you a big Alabama fan, can't stand then he went to LSU? Well, what's the deal? Why do you hate Joe Burrow? I can't remember.
Starting point is 00:40:03 I don't hate Joe Burrow. Yeah, guy hates Joe Burrow. Can you believe it? I hate the spot, man. I hate the spot. Red beard. What's up,
Starting point is 00:40:10 my friend? How we doing? Doing all right, how are you? Doing good. Red beard used to love it when Andy Dalton was a quarterback of the Bengals. back in the good all days before that idiot. There you go.
Starting point is 00:40:20 The Red Rocket. That's right. That's right. Your cousin. So. Yeah. What's going on, man? How can we help you?
Starting point is 00:40:27 Not much. Two quick ones. First one, prepping for the playoffs. I should have a buy in week 15, so it's just 16, 17. And New Orleans and Houston's on waivers this week. Houston. Which one would you? Houston.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Yeah. Elite defense, which is so good. elite matchups. It's a perfect storm. That's where I was leaning, but I wasn't sure with the matchups that New Orleans had. My other question would be a quick sit start. With Bucky coming back,
Starting point is 00:41:04 are we waiting to see what he does for a week? Because I would play him either. Would you play him ahead of Quinn, Sean, Juckins, Travis E.N. Devante or D.K. I wouldn't. I wouldn't play him over. I'd play him over D.K. probably.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Okay. I also have Woody Marks and R.J. Harvey. Any of those worth throwing in on top over one of those four? Oh. Give me the four again? I'm sorry. You're good. The four that I've got at the moment in my flex is Quinn, Sean, Junkins,
Starting point is 00:41:43 Travis E.N., Devante Smith, D.K. Metcalfe. after three that I might potentially pop out was buggy, but I kind of feel like waiting on him, like y'all said. And then R.J. Harvey and Woody Marks. I think I would start Harvey over D.K. Or, um,
Starting point is 00:42:01 Dante Smith is banged up, right? So I might start a little bit. Yeah, he didn't practice it. Yeah. If something happens with Devante, obviously Harvey goes in. But if Devante's up and good, then I probably go with Harvey over DK.
Starting point is 00:42:15 What do you think, Erickson? Yeah, Harvey over D.K. And yeah, Devante, yeah, he's banged up, especially if the bears get some of their cornerbacks back, you might not see a ton of passing volume from the Eagles just because the bears are so beat up at linebacker. The Eagles just don't stop talking about we got to get Sake on going. We got to get Sake on going. So this could be a Jalen Hertz like 15 pastime game. And when that happens, someone gets left out, whether it's Godd or AJ Brown or Smith. that if Smith's injured or he's paddling an injury, I could see, like, we look up, oh, he only played like half the snaps. It's like, because they just ran the ball 35 times. So I think Smith, you might want to try to gravitate away from this week.
Starting point is 00:42:57 I know I bet the under on his reception's prop already. So I did realize I've got, I got Minchie also. I don't know if he's great. Don't play. Don't play Jets. You don't have to. We're not putting him in over anybody that you have. Yeah. I, um, yeah, yeah, that's, uh,
Starting point is 00:43:14 Good questions, Red Beard. I appreciate you, my friend. Let's see. Who's up next? Jack. What's up, Jack? You're back. Hey, guys.
Starting point is 00:43:25 One Dynasty question, 10 teams. Guy is tanking, and I'm like 400 points over everyone else. And he offered me A.J. Brown for Garrett Wilson. I know Garrett Wilson might come back for a pretty, decent playoff matchup. Just curious your thoughts on that value. I mean, if you're 400 points better than everybody else, I'm not taking, I'm going to keep Wilson and just, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:01 wait on him to come back. So if your team is that much better than everybody else, this isn't a move that you have to have, in my opinion. Yeah. So I think I would just keep Garrett Wilson because he just has a much longer runway for success, obviously he's much younger than a j brown so yeah all right um one starts it for this week ecr is kind of right on top of each other with this it's debo tennie gainwell and aaron jones for a flex
Starting point is 00:44:33 it's not gain well for me so for me it's either debo or uh i'm sorry who was the other person erin jones jones uh debo or aaron jones erin jones uh debo or aaron jones erin jones erin jones eric I mean, I like Gainwell. So here's my thing with Gainwell. It's not Daveo for me. Okay, yeah, please. So here's my thing with Gainwell, right. It's the fact that it was Mason Rudolph last week,
Starting point is 00:44:59 so they were going to run a lot regardless. Plus, Jaylon Warren was coming off the ankle injury, which they said was a major and obviously wasn't because it was about 50-50. I think with Aaron Rogers back, Aaron loves Warren in there. He doesn't get the ball to Gainwell as much. he will if Warren goes down, right?
Starting point is 00:45:18 So I think we'll still see seven to ten touches from Gainwell. It's just he had a 55-yard fake tush push almost touchdown in that game. That was 55 of like his 96 yards. So I think most weeks Gainwell is not going to be doing this. PPR League, he catches a lot of passes, so that's nice. But for me, if it's not, it was Gainwell, it was, I'm sorry. God, my memory is so bad to be. Debo and Aaron Jones.
Starting point is 00:45:47 I just, I got a bad feeling about Debo with no Jaden Daniels. And I also kind of feel like, I mean, Rogers has a broken wrist. Like, he's not going to like come back healthy. I like, yeah. I like, I still, even to your point about some of the Gainwell stuff you mentioned, it's the Bills run defense. So bad. They can't stop anybody.
Starting point is 00:46:13 like the Texans ran over them. Texans are terrible at running the football. So I think Gainwell, again, I just don't like the other guys, really. Like, Debo, like, he's efficiency. He's falling off a cliff because he's much older. He's been dealing with some injuries. Terry McClorn might come back this week. He's going to want any part of that again.
Starting point is 00:46:29 Against Denver, the Denver defense off a bye week. Like, no thanks. And then Aaron Jones is just a tough spot. Like him and Kenneth Gainwell both catch passes. Because, like, with Aaron Jones, you're on the road as 10 point underdogs to the Seahawks. I just think you're guaranteed way more touches with Aaron Jones. So that's why. So I would go
Starting point is 00:46:49 with, I honestly, I'd probably go with Debo for the upside because they'll run short passes and reverses with him too. So I would probably go with Debo. But I understand, I understand these arguments for sure. It's the one same league that I'm
Starting point is 00:47:05 winning by a ton in the Dynasty League. So like even if I lose, I still lock up a buy week. So it's not like I'm shooting for It's not a painstaking Massive upside. Yeah, yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:17 It's kind of like, whatever. When I look at these three guys, what I'm most confident in it, efficiency, bet against the bills run defense. Like, that's what I feel most confident about. And that benefits Kenneth Gainwell the most. So, yeah, and if it's not that big a deal.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Yeah, roll with Gainwell in the weak matchup then. Sweet. Thanks, guys. You got it, Jack. Take it easy, my friend. Thank you. Let's see. Twitchy. What's up?
Starting point is 00:47:47 Twitchy, how we doing, my friend? Twitchy. From Twitch? Yeah. Hey, how's it on? What's going on? Good. Hey, I got two questions.
Starting point is 00:47:56 So I'm trying to steal a playoff spot. Right now I'm chasing two people. And right now I'm five and seven. Actually, no. I think I'm five and six. I can't do math. Regardless, I got a wide receiver problem and a QB problem. So first off is my wide receiver problem.
Starting point is 00:48:16 My most consistent and my best wide receiver by far is Michael Pittman Jr. But he's going against the Texans. So that makes me nervous because the Texans defense looks great. Yeah. My other three receivers are Michael Wilson, Jameson Williams, and Khalil Shakir. So I got to start two out of the four. Who are you going? So what are you guys?
Starting point is 00:48:40 Should I go with Pittman anyway? No, I would not do that. Okay. I would start Jameson. I would start Jameson. And who was the first guy you mentioned? Michael Wilson? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:48:52 even though Harrison might be back? Yeah, I don't think Harrison's coming back. But even if he does, they said that they're going to prioritize Michael Wilson more because he's been so good. I mean, he is really developing a good rapport with Jacoby percent. So I'm with Erickson. I'd probably sit Pittman out of that group. Okay. I mean, I think that he's the lowest ranked in, I mean, he's lowest ranked in ECR. So, like, even if, you know, Marvin Harrison comes back, you probably play Shakir then.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Yeah, he, Michael, Michael Pittman's the guy that's ranked last. I do. I have Jameson one spot ahead of Michael Pittman in my rankings as well. But Michael Pittman's one of those guys where you look at his ranking this week and you go, what's he doing down? Oh, they're playing the Houston, Texas. Yeah. Okay. Yep. And then he don't really mess with them. I think that was kind of how I saw Pittman this week anyway. So, The only thing that makes me nervous about Jameson is because of that donut that he gave me last week. I mean, he's given donuts before. This is nothing new.
Starting point is 00:49:54 This is the J-Mo experience. You got to ride the donuts to get the big games, just part of the process. And if you get too ping-pongy, you're going to miss out on the spite. Again, I get it. It sucks when he puts up a donut, but this isn't the first donut. He's the Maryland Monroe of wide receivers. If you don't, if you can't handle me at my worst, you don't deserve me. my best. Is that what it is, Eric?
Starting point is 00:50:15 Yeah, basically, because look, week seven, donut, weeks nine, 10, 11, wide receiver 12, wide receiver three, wide receiver five. Like, it's just, it's just part of the position with right receivers. So she got a plan. Boom, but. Yeah, and my only, like, copium with Michael Wilson is even if Harrison
Starting point is 00:50:32 comes back, I think Harrison would just steal the touches from Dorch, but I may be wrong. No, no, I, I agree with that. I think that it would be Dorch that kind of fades out, um, completely with Harrison, kind of filling in those gaps. Harrison is quickly becoming option number three in Arizona, right? Like, it's,
Starting point is 00:50:49 Trey McBride is one. We know that for sure. It'll be interesting to see the targets between Harrison and Wilson. But, you know, if he doesn't get, if he comes back in place this week and he doesn't get as many, everyone's going to be like, well, well, it was the first week off injury, whatever. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:51:05 I don't think it is. You know, he is just down in the pecking. I actually have both McBride and Wilson. So it's been pretty great, actually. Yeah, I bet. Yeah. Last week was good. Last week was good, even though neither of them scored a touchdown. But, oh, well.
Starting point is 00:51:23 And then my, my QB issue is right now I have Purdy and I have Brissette. So I made the mistake of not starting Brissette last week. And because Purdy played well his first game back off injury. So I'm going to start him this week because I don't think party is going to have a good game this week. but I may be wrong. Oh, right. No, let me stop you there.
Starting point is 00:51:46 You're playing Bresset. You're playing Bresset. Don't think twice about it, man. Yeah, no, I'm not. I'm definitely starting Bisset. He's doing really well. And he has a, I think he has a pretty good matchup.
Starting point is 00:51:59 But my problem is the buy week for Purdy, right? So I'm losing Purdy and CMC because I have CMC is my number one running back. And that week is my most critical. week. If I lose it, I'm out, basically. So, and I'm right now, like, 54% maybe favored. So it's either I risk Brissette and he's going up up against the Rams or I pick up a third QB right now in preparation for that week. And I have a, I have a decent amount of options to pick up. What are they? I'll tell you right now.
Starting point is 00:52:38 Or who are they? I got, I got Bo Nix. Yeah. I got Derek Gough, who's going up against Dallas, actually, that week. You pick up golf. Yeah, you can just drop 30. Yeah. You don't need Bernie. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:52:54 Just drop him for golf. Yep. Wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on, guys. No, no, no. We don't need to hold on. We don't need more options. Goff is good. Look.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Is Dak Prescott available? Yeah, right. No, no, no. Then just pick up golf. It's got off. It's goth, Baker, Mefield, Boenicks. Baker Mayfield, too. It's golf.
Starting point is 00:53:16 It's golf against Koff. Yeah, they're secondary. Like, they made improvements to the defense. Quinn and Williams with Kenny Clark, it looks dangerous to stop the run. Oversown back is great for them. They didn't fix the secondary. So, yeah. Drop pretty.
Starting point is 00:53:29 Drop pretty. He's playing the Browns, then he's on a buy. No one's going to want him, especially if golfs on the waivers. Yep. Bring it back. Okay. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:53:38 All right. Well, rest of the season, how do you guys feel about the Rams as a defensive team? A lot of them. Yeah, they've been awesome. I mean, they're probably going to win the Super Bowl. Like, it's there just the freaking juggernaut on offense, on defense. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:56 They look great right now. Absolutely. I got the Rams and I have Landman. You think I should just ride that out the rest of the season if I make it? Yes. I think so, too. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:06 All right. Thank you guys. Thank you guys. Thank you, Twitchy. Take it easy, my friend. All right. Good questions. Yeah, good questions.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Absolutely. Jay Chow, what's up? Jay Chow, how we doing, my friend? Jay Chow, you there? Going once. Going twice. All right. Raise your hand again, Jay Chow.
Starting point is 00:54:26 We'll come back to you. Zek, you, did we figure it out? Hello, can you air me? We got you. What's going on? Yay. Awesome. I want to ask two questions.
Starting point is 00:54:38 One, for my full PPR league, I need to choose between Neil, Moore, and Matchy. Neil Moore, which more? Neil. DJ Moore. Oh, man, this is a good question. Yeah, I think it's Neil. I think just take those guaranteed touches. Yep, catch the process.
Starting point is 00:55:03 We're in, like, a race for highest points, and you get paid for that, and we're all within, like, two points that. other. I think four might be better for me there. Yeah, well,
Starting point is 00:55:14 then you'll get it with Neil for volume for touches if Camara's okay. It's going to be out.
Starting point is 00:55:21 All right. The second question was for my dynasty league. With Higgins out, I'm wondering if I should
Starting point is 00:55:28 flex Eosovic or Washington, the one from Miami, but we do partner
Starting point is 00:55:36 in that league. Malik Washington? Yeah. What has he been scoring in the format? Like, I'm just not familiar with the punt return yardage. In between, like, nine and 16 points? Like, pretty consistently? I mean, I think that's something.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Yeah, I say, yeah. Yeah, I don't know with Burroughs coming back and Higgins being out if Yoshi's going to be like a pretty good start or not. I mean, I think that. I think what we got from Yoshi last week is, like, prototypical, like, what we would expect. So, like, not amazing. And then just depends if he catches a touchdown or not. It's, like, it kind of makes her breaks if it's, like, a high upside play.
Starting point is 00:56:19 Because they, I mean, they were really trying to get Gaseki involved last week. I was like, oh, no, like, this is like, full on Mike Gaseki mode going on right here in the first quarter for the Bengals. And we've seen pretty strong splits when T. Higgins missed last year, Mike Gessacki had, like, these monster games. So also, it could be a lot of puns. for the Saints, right? Saints, yeah, yeah. That's not a good point, yeah. So I think with the, with the punt,
Starting point is 00:56:44 I think it's close enough just like straight up that you're then adding in the punt return. I think that does very much in favor of Malik. Agreed. Okay. I'll talk, Shed, maybe I guess the third question. You kind of, you're saying you had a bit of trepidation with Burrough this week, Joe Burrow.
Starting point is 00:57:01 A bit. Yep. I have, no, in my league on four. I'm sorry, in my league on four. Unfortunately, I don't have to choose between him and Brock Pretty. That's the one guy would play Burrow. That was the example that he gave. If you didn't hear that part, he's like, I mean, if it's Bernie, I'll play Burrow.
Starting point is 00:57:21 I know, that's the only guy. So, yeah, you have convinced me as much as I have basically piled on Joe Barrow on the show, you have given me an answer where the answer is, yes, start Joe Burrow. It's the one time it works. All right, thanks, guys. I appreciate it. Of course, my friend. So for your sake, I hope that I'm wrong about him being a bad start this week. Fingers crossed.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Jay Chow is back. What's going on? Jay Chow, how we doing it, my friend? Nope. Still can't hear you. Sorry, Jay Chow. You can put your question in the chat. We'll try to get some of these here in the chat at the end.
Starting point is 00:57:57 Let me just scroll back through and see if we have some questions up here. Thank you, Dredes, for helping people out with the microphone today and for posting this Madden thing. really appreciate your help here. I don't know if I'm seeing it. I think it's just a lot of comments. Here we go. Here's one from J.Spar. Juan Johnson, Hunter Henry, or Schultz, full PPR.
Starting point is 00:58:21 What do you think there, Erickson? Is this in the chat? Yeah, I see. It's way up. It's at like 1.30. Sorry. Oh, okay. Who are the Titans?
Starting point is 00:58:30 Joanne Johnson, sorry. Joanne Johnson, Hunter Henry, and Dalton Schultz. I guess Hunter Henry for me. Again, if they got to get the ball out quick, tight end underneath the option. I mean, I'm really just to see what the Pat's offense does to adjust without Campbell, Jared Wilson. But, you know, we would think that that means more quick passes. So less splash plays for guys like Booty, Mack Hollins, and more underneath stuff, which benefits guys like Diggs and Hunter Henry.
Starting point is 00:58:58 So I think that you'd stay in the flames. Henry was also really good last week. I know it was the Bengals. But I think that they continued to ride him. So, Henry, for me. What if I told you that the Indianapolis Colts are allowing the second most fantasy points to tight ends? Would that change your mind with Schultz at all? You definitely piqued my interest.
Starting point is 00:59:22 Right now, they're averaging 6.4 receptions allowed 72.2 yards to tight ends and half a touchdown. So the touchdown is kind of, they're not the Bengals. Bengals are the only team averaging over a touchdown allowed to tight ends all year. so but the receptions are there against the cults because their linebackers not been playing great no that is a good point um because shultz again i'm trying to not take really much stocking to have what happened last week because the bills are just this like elite team against tight ends right
Starting point is 00:59:55 they basically shut down everybody so i wouldn't um like don't like downgrade shaltz like too substantially so actually in full ppr shillots is giant He gobbles up. Let me see where the giants are. They're like, they're kind of, like, mediocre. They also have, like, a ton of injuries in their, in their secondary. Yeah, they're, I guess it's like, I guess it depends. Like, is it going to be Davis Mills again?
Starting point is 01:00:19 Because Schultz has been on heater with Mills, like, been to top 10 tight end in three straight weeks with Davis Mills. I don't really trust Schultz on a week-to-week basis. And I feel like in Houston, the quarterback issue makes us go, okay, is this going to be Higgins. Is this going to, and Higgins is getting more. snaps as well. So, and so is Noel and Kirk was great last week as well. So I just think there there are fewer options to get the ball. So I think I would rather go with Hunter Henry. So, but yeah, I just wanted to throw that. I think Henry. Yeah. But again, to your point, I think that again,
Starting point is 01:00:54 if you are, you got Schultz and you're kind of, are you concerned about last week? I wouldn't be concerned about him busting last week because it was a really tough matchup. And like you said, the Colts is a much better matchup. So he should be fine. But I think, I think Henry probably has more upside touch to Drake, man. And then he asks us to rank the flex options. Pearsall, Higgins, Strange, and T. Tucker, I'm going to assume this is Jaden Higgins
Starting point is 01:01:16 because T. Higgins is down. So Pierceall, Jaden Higgins, Strange, and Trey Tucker. Higgins and Strange at the top. I mean, dude, Trey Tucker sees like so many targets. And Pierceall doesn't. Like, you can't start, you can't start Pierceall. You just can't until he hasn't been consistent enough.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Yeah. So you can't start him. Higgins has been pretty solid. The Colts have good corners, but if sauce is going to be on Nico, then that should give Jaden Higgins some opportunities. And he's been pretty good over the last couple weeks. So Higgins,
Starting point is 01:01:47 strange, it's full PPR. He's kind of been the guy for Trevor Lawrence. It's the Titans. I think Strange is pretty solid as well. I mean, it's like Higgins versus Trey Tucker. Ugh, like, I'm just like, I mean, Tucker had 10 targets last week. That's the thing.
Starting point is 01:02:05 and there's no one else besides Brock Bowers, but it is the Raiders offense. The chargers are a pretty tough defense. I think I'd probably go with Higgins and strange. So agreeing with Jay Sparks, the liens here. I'm not, I mean, I'm not convinced.
Starting point is 01:02:18 I can't, like, come up with a better argument to be like, oh, well, it's obviously Trey Tucker as the play here. Yeah. I know he had, like, he had a boatload of air yards last week, more like prairie yards,
Starting point is 01:02:27 because it's just like, Gino's just like chucking is. Dude, he had him wide open twice. That could have been 150 yards and two scores for Tucker. All right. So, So then maybe it is Tucker then. It's like, again, this is like the typical by-low, like air yards model thing, right?
Starting point is 01:02:42 Like the guy gets like 200 air yards and the next week he goes off. I do think that's a ridiculous, like, you know, you would have to have a different quarterback for those to come to fruition, right? Right. Like, you know, Smith overthrows guys constantly. But they did get Chip Kelly. They axed him. So who's going on? Got Greg Olson coming in here.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Where do I have these guys ranked? They're back-to-back in ECR. Where do I have Higgins? I mean, I got Trey Tucker pretty strongly. I mean, he had 10 targets last week. Like, he's got eight plus targets back-to-back weeks. I got pretty steady. Top of this list.
Starting point is 01:03:17 Yeah, I think it's, I think you got to go Tucker. You just kind of kind of like close your eyes and press the button. Trust the spreadsheets. Just take the tussin. Stink Mangione asked. Nix over Lamar. No. No, so it's still Lamar.
Starting point is 01:03:34 Okay. I would rather just, I'd rather be go down with the show. A week too early on Lamar than a week too late. I do it. I cannot stomach a Lamar 35 point game against the Bengals and I have to watch the entire thing on Thanksgiving night. I could not do it.
Starting point is 01:03:51 I want to go to a bar. I don't want to have to watch this nonsense. Because you know how bad that defense could be. Look, last week again, Lamar banged up his toe. He says he's feeling much better. And there were opportunities for him to have a much better game last week. He almost scored a rushing touchdown. And Mark A, like, he had a red zone touchdown.
Starting point is 01:04:08 He just didn't catch it. So I think that there are some things to be optimistic about. Maybe he never gets healthy. That's always a possibility. But once he is, quote, unquote, healthy, I mean, you see the guy that scores 30 points per game in fantasy. A couple more here. I think one from Fernando, and then we'll get to Jay Chow to end us out here. Fernando asks full PPR, Pittman or Wilson.
Starting point is 01:04:30 I think it's Wilson this week, right? Yeah, Michael Wilson. So Texans still worth the start this week. Jags, Falcons, dolphins are available. I think I just roll with the Texans. The defense looks incredible right now. Yeah, and I don't think that we're not afraid of Daniel Jones Boggs, I don't think. I mean, listen, maybe they score, but he could still turn the ball over six times, right?
Starting point is 01:04:51 They made Josh Allen look like Daniel Jones last week. I mean, I'm obviously being tongue-in-cheek. Daniel Jones has obviously played much better this season, but I don't think that he's a four- over is against Pittsburgh. Exactly. He's not a quarterback to be a quarterback to be feared, especially if the Texans open up with like a lead or something, you see Daniel Jones can get rattled at times,
Starting point is 01:05:14 and then that creates opportunities for turnover. I mean, the Texans are so good defensively that, I mean, I don't want to say they're like matchup proof, but I think they always have a, like, they're live to score fantasy points in any matchup, even against like the best offices in the NFL. So, yeah, roll the Texans,
Starting point is 01:05:30 keep them, especially with their playoff schedule, so, so good. I was so bummed. they were on the waivers in one of my leagues and I just missed out on and I was so pissed. It's like, oh, man. So I'd pick up the buccaneers instead. Oh, and then they got torrid. Dude, well, they're playing Jacoby, man.
Starting point is 01:05:44 They'll get 50 pass attempts. I'm hoping for some interceptions, maybe some sacks. Dude, I had Zion. I had Zion McCollum last week in my IDP league thinking, man, Devante's going to torch him. He's going to have some of the tackles. He didn't have tackles because they were all in the end zone. So it was all touchdowns.
Starting point is 01:06:00 Dude, the guy was getting cooked, man. Cook like Thanksgiving better. Jay Chow asked us. He put his lineup in here, and he's asking about a flex specifically if Genti misses this week. Right now, he's got McConkey and Flex, the bench. He's got Genty, obviously, he was questionable to play. I think if he plays, he slides in that Alk Pierce spot.
Starting point is 01:06:23 But would you play D.K. Crod? Like, if Gensi doesn't play, Pierce, C-Rod, DK, Alec Pierce. Is it Alec Pierce for sure? Probably, it's probably D-K. Oh, no, he's got this ankle injury thing, so we got a... No, Shemir. It's either D-K. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:06:43 I'm sorry. Pierce. Oh, sorry, sorry. No, yeah, Pierce. It's pretty easy. Yeah. He's got Monong guy as well. You throw him a Monong guy over Pierce?
Starting point is 01:06:53 No, I don't want Bears running backs this week, to be honest, on the road against the Philadelphia Eagles. I don't love that spot. I think I think I'm cool with leaving those guys in my bench. He said, who should I drop Panero for? He's got Parker Washington and Metchy on waivers. I think I want METCHI.
Starting point is 01:07:11 Because Brian Thomas is going to come back. Yeah, that's what I'm concerned with Washington. It just came back, right? Yeah, eventually the, like, the Parker Washington experience might end soon, or else Brian Thomas Jr. is never going to get targeted again.
Starting point is 01:07:26 Like, I mean, what we're talking about, okay, like, lock of the week, If Brian Thomas Jr. plays, his underover reception is four and a half. There's no way he's catching five passes. It's not happening. One more question. Who reflects if Devante is out this week in another league? He's got Wilson, Monagai, QJ, Higgins, Samson, and Vidal.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Vidal and Michael Wilson. Yeah, those two. We still don't know that Hampton's going to play. So? Yeah. Yeah, I think if no Hampton, I think Vidal. So what are the chances of Aden O'Connell replaces Gino now that he's off I-R and practicing in full? I think they would go to Kenny Pickett before they go back to Aden O'Connell, don't you?
Starting point is 01:08:10 I mean, Gino hasn't played great, but I mean, I think that Chip Kelly was like a lot of the problems with this team. Like, I don't think putting O'Connell back there is going to magically fix, like, a broken offensive line. And like, the play calling we do was so bad, just terrible. What were they were saying, like, one of the tackles was getting, like, no help, like, at all. last week, and that's why he, like, he got sacked 10 times. You have no Mississippi. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:36 So I don't, I don't, I think Aiden O'Connell is an interesting guy, that he's been kind of underrated in his starts. But, I mean, maybe they do that to kind of evaluate him. But I wouldn't anticipate Gino, like, get straight up benched unless he just throws more interception. So it seems like the coaching staff is still pretty behind Gino. But then again, like, Pete Carroll, is he really there for the end? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:08:58 So, O'Connell, I think is, like, a. interesting like Superflex stash in some of these deeper league especially in dynasty he shouldn't be waivers but besides that i think it's probably going to be gno for most of the season i think so too and i think they'll get mr outside higher for next year i'm not nearly as high on aden o'connell i think that's why i traded for picket is part of the reason obviously o'connell went down but i just i'm not a aden o'connell believer at all that's fair dreadus asked uh idp question between miles Garrett or Jack Campbell, both great options. It's got to be Miles Garrett.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Like the dude is getting four or five sacks a week. Way higher floor for Jack Campbell. So if you need the floor, take the tackles with Jack Campbell, specifically against Green Bay. They're going to run up the middle a lot. So Jack Campbell's going to be involved. But if it's a swing play at all, this IDP spot, it's got to be Miles Garrett.
Starting point is 01:09:51 If you can play both of those IPs, I want to play in both. Garrett is going crazy right now. Yeah, IDP is so, this is such a curious thing because it's like, dude, Miles Gareth's going to break the sack record and he may not even be the most valuable player in IDP weeks. It's just like, come on, we got a different scoring. No, no, no, no, no, I know. I know. It's just like we have to make it so that, no, if this guy's going to break the sack record, he has to be valued way high.
Starting point is 01:10:15 We got to change the scoring to make sure that he's getting more points than everybody else. Well, regardless of the scoring, he is the highest value because of RPV, right? Yeah. You cannot. There's no other linemen that's anywhere close. T.J. Watt would be the next closest. As an IDP comment, because I do play in two leagues with IDPs, guess who my starting defensive back was?
Starting point is 01:10:38 Who is it? The guy that punched Juan Jennings in the... Trevin Morg. Yep. So, like, I'm watching the game because I'm like, right, Moring's getting some tackles, like, this is great. And then at the end of the game, I see him punched John Jennings.
Starting point is 01:10:51 I'm like, dude. And then I get, like, the notification on Tuesday. Trevor Mourig, suss. Yeah, well, imagine how I felt because I had Jamar Chase this week and couldn't start him and got beat in two spots. So, yeah, don't spit and punch on people. It's not that hard. So, uh, figure it out. But, uh, appreciate everyone asking questions and hanging out with us, uh, today.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Remember, you can follow us. Well, uh, your Twitter, Erickson, give it out. At Andrew Erickson underscore. At Andrew Erickson underscore. And at Bogman's, for myself. We'll be back, same,
Starting point is 01:11:27 I think normal schedule next week, right, Thursday at 2 Eastern, correct? So just a little early for the holiday here. So wishing everybody
Starting point is 01:11:36 a great holiday. Everybody, get healthy. Erickson, take your time off, drink all the tussin you need and get better, my friend. You too dread us.
Starting point is 01:11:46 On the mend, everybody. Let's get better. So that will do it for us this week and we'll see you guys next week. Take it easy, everybody.
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