The Herd with Colin Cowherd - FantasyPros - The Extra Point: Playoff Sit/Start Decisions and Chat Q&A (Ep. 1910)

Episode Date: December 21, 2025

Join Chris Welsh and Andrew Erickson as they tackle your questions LIVE on Discord for the final time this regular season at fantasypros.com/chat. Timestamps: (May be off due to ads) Intro - 0:00...:00 Jaxson Dart vs. Tyler Shough - 0:02:48 Tee Higgins Trust Level - 0:05:55 Tough RB/Flex Decisions - 0:11:15 Standard League Flex Options - 0:16:27 TE Starts - 0:18:14 Need Two Flex Options - 0:21:40 FantasyPros My Playbook - 0:22:55 RB2 Options - 0:26:59 Drake London vs. Ladd McConkey - 0:29:31 WR2 Options - 0:33:53 Justin Jefferson’s Outlook - 0:34:51 Christmas Movie Buy, Sell, Hold - 0:40:23 Best DST Options - 0:42:46 Tyler Warren Replacements - 0:44:48 FantasyPros on Twitch - 0:46:27 Best TE Streaming Options - 0:48:10 Rapid Fire Chat Q&A - 0:51:36 Outro - 0:59:19 Helpful Links: Hard Rock Bet - All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up for Hard Rock Bet and make a $5 bet and you'll get $150 in bonus bets if you win. Head over to Hard Rock Bet, sign up and make your first deposit today. Payable in bonus bet(s). Not a cash offer. Offered by the Seminole Tribe of Florida in FL. Offered by Seminole Hard Rock Digital, LLC, in all other states. Must be 21+ and physically present in AZ, CO, FL, IL, IN, MI, NJ, OH, TN or VA to play. Terms and conditions apply. Concerned about gambling? In FL, call 1-833-PLAYWISE. In IN, if you or someone you know has a gambling problem and wants help, call 1-800-9-WITH-IT. GAMBLING PROBLEM? CALL 1-800-GAMBLER (AZ, CO, IL, MI, NJ, OH, TN, VA) My Playbook - Sync your league instantly to My Playbook to get custom advice on how to manage your team throughout the season. See your league’s top available players, power rankings, and more for free! Check the “Are They Playing” tool each week to get the latest game-day availability odds for all injured players. If you’re premium – you unlock all kinds of helpful waiver, trade, lineup and league analysis tools. You can even auto-start your team’s optimal lineup each week with Auto-Pilot. Sync your league and dominate every week of the season with My Playbook at fantasypros.com/myplaybook or on the FantasyPros App Follow us on Twitch - The team here at FantasyPros is taking questions all week, every week on Twitch. Follow us on Twitch at twitch.tv/fantasypros and never miss a stream! Discord – Join our FantasyPros Discord Community! Chat with other fans and get access to exclusive AMAs that wind up on our podcast feed. Come get your questions answered and BE ON THE SHOW at fantasypros.com/chat Leave a Review – If you enjoy our show and find our insight to be valuable, we’d love to hear from you! Your reviews fuel our passion and help us tailor content specifically for YOU. Head to Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever else you get your podcasts and leave an honest review. Let’s make this show the ultimate destination for fantasy football enthusiasts like us. Thank you for watching and for showing your support – https://fantasypros.com/review/ BettingPros Podcast – For advice on the best picks and props across both the NFL and college football each and every week, check out the BettingPros Podcast at bettingpros.com/podcast, our BettingPros YouTube channel at youtube.com/bettingpros, or wherever you listen to podcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:44 What's up, buddy? What's up Welsh? Semi-finals this week. Hopefully we can help the people point them in the right direction. Wish me to Derek Brown on the show because that way we'd ask him all the questions because he was number one in the rankings last week. We do the bit on Saturday Night Live. Did you ever see it with Chris Farley where he's interviewing Paul McCart?
Starting point is 00:02:03 And he's like, you remember when you're on the Beatles, that was awesome. And we just be like, hey, Derek, remember when you ranked like really good? It was awesome. Who would you rank this week? Do it again. Who would you rank? Awesome. If you could just do that the next two weeks in a row, that would be cool and awesome.
Starting point is 00:02:25 It would be pretty, pretty sweet. it would be. Shout out to Debrough again. Number one in the ranks. I had to send him a text. I know he's not going to be like, oh, yes, bring it, but he's got to love it a little bit. Give him that love. He deserves that love. And that is why this show is designed around literally talking to you guys.
Starting point is 00:02:44 So we're not just like taking your questions, which we do do in like the Twitch and the YouTube shows, but we are going to speak to you. So bring us your non-Thursday Night Football based fantasy questions for the semifinals, because I know there are some big ones. Hopefully this is also coming off of the ranks episodes that we did that Erickson, myself and Fitsy did. We will do our best to hook you up. Let's start talking with the people, though. Let's get right into it, my friends, with Bryce Seratops, first up on the show for the semifinals.
Starting point is 00:03:15 What's up, Bryce? Hey, can you guys hear me? We got you, man. Hey. So I have a couple questions. First, I don't, Minnesota. the matchup kind of scares me. Would you guys roll with Dart,
Starting point is 00:03:30 or I could also grab. Who is the last one? You faded. Shuck. Shuck is a pretty popular streamer, and I'm actually down for the streaming, but not for Dart. I agree with you on the matchup side,
Starting point is 00:03:46 but Dart, regardless of Proto or not, he keeps running. And he had like 60 plus rushing yards, and he has a lot of equity there. So I'm personally still going Dart, but they are closer in ranks. I want to say ECR. is like 15 on dart and Chuck is maybe 20.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Erickson, what do you think? Yep, that's how I have it too. Darts, 15 and Chuck is 19. So rolling with the dart. We're darting it. What do you got for two? Thank you. So the second one, I've got my first running back,
Starting point is 00:04:17 but I still need to pick another one in my flex. And my choices are Dowdell, Harvey, Carter, and DJ Moore. Was that the last question, Bryce? Or was there another? Yes. Okay, I'm sorry. Just to bring off the stage there.
Starting point is 00:04:40 I want to say R.J. Harvey. Do you want to say R.J. Harvey? You roll with me? Okay. Yep. Three down skill set. I believe you practice in full on Wednesday. That's huge.
Starting point is 00:04:52 With injury doesn't seem like it's going to be like super. impeding to his type of production. And I just want to put the context behind. Yes, it is a tough match against the Jaguars, but the Broncos aren't, they're going to score points in some way, some form. So he gets goal on opportunities. He could score rushing touchdown. And he catches passes.
Starting point is 00:05:12 So that doesn't even really affect him when it comes to the Jaguars being really tough against running backs as rushers. If he's catching passes out of the back field, then it doesn't matter how good the Jags are at stopping running backs on the ground. So I think Harvey has the best ceiling floor combination of these guys. We talk about Doudal on the ranking show. He doesn't have a great matchup against the bucks. We're really good against the run.
Starting point is 00:05:33 And it's like very touchdown equity on Doudal. Yep. And I think that you just, who has a better chance of scoring touchdown this week? Dowdell or Harvey, right? I think it's pretty close, maybe even lean Harvey. He's evolved through all phases. DJ Moore is like, which one are you going to get, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:51 The one that, again, we've seen him two weeks. without a doones day again luther burton probably not gonna play so i think that makes a dj more a little bit more viable still packers you know i would just roll with harvey i would too dj more is very fluky to me not bad options by the way um i could stomach going with rj harvey was the he was the he was the pay i think he's ranked highest too yeah yeah yeah i think so i think it's like 19 uh white gamer premium member of the fantasy pros discord sup what's up guys how are you doing what up dude Good, good. How are you doing? Good, good. I got a few questions.
Starting point is 00:06:29 First question I want to ask you guys. This one's pretty small. I have Higgins on my I-R. T. Higgins, and I want to pull him back in because I think he could be starting. Now, in my lineup, I have Jefferson, Evans, and Joanne Jennings in there. I was wondering. I know where this is going. Should I sit any of them for to add Higgins back? Because I don't think I'm going to start
Starting point is 00:06:59 Read Godwin or Pittman this week. So here's the real question he's saying. Do I bench Justin Jefferson for T. Higgins? Justin Jeff. Me and Bogman cannot stop fighting about Justin Jefferson. I refuse to stop fighting. And, you know, as he pointed out, I mean, dude, Erickson, Bogman was like,
Starting point is 00:07:19 he literally copy and repeated the last two weeks of what you said about Jefferson. And I get it. And he's just like, he's got to do it. And it's like, that's what we've said every single week. And it's like, J.J. McCarthy is incapable of getting the ball to Justin Jefferson. So I have so little trust in Jefferson. It's not funny. But you are also looking at a wide receiver that's dealing in Proto right now. And it's probably even more susceptible to be knocked out.
Starting point is 00:07:48 So what is your take on it? I've still kind of, be honest with, I'm not sure I would lean T. Higgins, even though I love the matchup. If T got like a full practice in and everything like that, I think I might. But Justin Jefferson has a great matchup. He never gets the ball anymore. Do you how many combined yards Justin Jefferson has three weeks combined? Guess a number.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Is it even 30 yards? 37 yards combined the last, combined the last three weeks. Undershot it. Yeah. Yeah, you did undershoot it a little bit. So what would you do, T. Higgins or Jefferson? It's T. Higgins. If he plays, you're playing T. Higgins.
Starting point is 00:08:25 He has a dramatically significantly higher ceiling. Look, even when Carson Wentz was the quarterback for the Vikings and Jefferson was significantly better, look at his game laws. Even when he was putting up 100-yard games or scoring touchdowns, I think he has zero top eight finishes this year. Zero. Whereas Joe Burrow, dude, this is such an obvious play. low-up spot for him. Again, get him out of the cold in Cincinnati, all the bad vibes. Everyone's
Starting point is 00:08:54 trying to tell that he doesn't like football anymore. You know what I like, or you know what Joe Burrow likes to do is throw six touchdowns against the dolphins in Florida. Sunny Florida, nice and warm. I think that he's going to have a monster game. So I think if T. Higgins plays, you wanted to put him in your lineup because I think against the dolphins, I think that Joe Burrow could do literally whatever he's. But the scare is. Yeah, no, I agree with that, but he'll start to have fun finally. he remained in concussion protocol today in limited practice. There's a chance he doesn't even play. And then you have to worry about it.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Exactly. What was your next question? Yeah, my next question was because I mean, I'll probably start Baker Mayfield in that area too. And my next question, I won't ask about tonight's game. But in this league, I have one Jackson Dart or Brissette. and wide receivers I have Marvin Harrison Jr.,
Starting point is 00:09:50 which I don't know if he's going to play and Giovante Williams which is if he has well too. I have Shakir, Godwin, Worthy, Monongai and Singletary in my lineup. So I don't know if I should... In your lineup right now?
Starting point is 00:10:07 No, no, no. I have them on my bench. Oh, okay. So what are you asking? You're asking if like Giovante and... If Marvin Harrison, and Javante don't play? you think I should pivot to any of the guys
Starting point is 00:10:18 I just like to expect. I'm pretty sure Javonte's going to play. So I wouldn't be worried about it. Yeah. And then what was in the first part of the court, I would go Brissette over, I'm forgetting the quarterback, but it was easily Berset to me.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Would you play any of those guys over Marvin, even if Marvin's active? I might go Godwin over Harrison. I think I'd probably go more Harrison. I mean, if he comes back, and does what he did when he came back the first time. I mean, he was having a productive game before he got hurt again.
Starting point is 00:10:51 So there's always the injury risk with guys coming back from injuries. But I think you got to keep the context of, remember the Cardinals, Falcons, Drake London, Marvin Harrison, Jr., these teams have nothing to play for. So if the guys are coming back, they're coming back to play football, right? They're not coming back to like, oh, like, you know, you got to get ramped up for the playoff run. Like the Cardinals, Falcons are not going to the playoffs this year. And coaches are trying to save their jobs.
Starting point is 00:11:15 They're trying to put good tape out there. So if those guys are active, I would expect them to be full go at full capacity. Again, there's always a chance of re-injury. But hey, it's football. Anyone can get injured when you step on the field. So I'm M-Ber. M-Ber. Nick's in the house.
Starting point is 00:11:32 What's up? Hey, guys. First of all, just thank you for a great year of advice and support. Thanks, ma'am. Thanks for that's all to the semis. So I have a few questions for you guys. I'm going to send them in the chat just in case we need to be. to reference players that are in it.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Cool. The first one, I'm trying to decide for my two RB spots in a flex spot, the half-p-R league. And my options are Henderson, Harvey, Tracy, Aaron Jones, and Rico. And I know a lot of them are back-to-back-to-back in people's rankings. So just curious where you go in that spot first. This is Harvey Henderson, and I'm going to play Aaron Jones in that matchup over RICO. You agree, Erickson?
Starting point is 00:12:13 Yep. Okay. There you go. Well, thank you. Second one, I know with the whole Miami situation, there's a lot of questions around Waller. I'm wondering for tight end, if you'd go Waller, Strange, Schultz, Loveland, now that, you know, the guys are kind of banged up in the receiving core there, or Furg, who I have, but I'm very reluctant to start. I think we're going to probably disagree here, but I am Schultz on this one. I think Schultz is my highest rank guy, too.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Okay But he's been like Had a solid floor most weeks And the last week he popped off The thing with Waller And Fitz made a really good point About this I think on the ranking show Where he doesn't play tight end really
Starting point is 00:12:57 So this kind of matchup We're chasing against the Bengals I don't know if it really like Is relevant to Darren Waller Because he doesn't line up in line Like a traditional tight end does And that's where the Bengals Have been just like destroyed
Starting point is 00:13:13 By fantasy tight ends You know what's interesting You know who also doesn't line up a lot in line Who bombed against the Bengals last week Isaiah likely Mark Andrews, right? So I know they had good weeks a couple weeks ago And a lot of it's still because of the game script The Ravens didn't throw that much
Starting point is 00:13:27 But that all being said, we're not even like talking about Darren Waller If he's not facing the Bengals this week. Am I right? Yeah, I agree. As the quarterback. And I think that maybe we're just looking at tight end designation by Darren Waller
Starting point is 00:13:41 When you look at his actual deployment for the dolphins, he's lining up out wide or in the slot. like a wide receiver. So are we done hell about playing the number two wide receipt? I mean, what if it was Dick West Burkine? Like moving with Lidna's, like we got to play this guy with Quinn Ewers as his quarterback against the Bengals, probably not.
Starting point is 00:13:59 So Waller, I think of a sourd on, just a tad, especially with those other guys. I like really want to like be in all in on Loveland because of the Bears injuries. I like him this week, but just not more than Shultz. Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news?
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Starting point is 00:17:25 And I don't know, like, how high his ceiling really is unless he scores a touchdown, but it is the Raiders, like, Stroud should throw a decent amount here. So in love that we did say play the Packers already this year, and he had like a, he was okay. He scored. So, I mean, if you look at my ranking, that Schultz, think ECR has. Schultz so I don't have enough re again I've gone kind of long winded answer here with this but I think
Starting point is 00:17:48 it is probably just Schultz yeah they get Schultz all right now you got a couple more let's burn through these ones yeah these ones are quick I guess a QB I have DAC, Burrow and Dart in 4 point passing wondering who you go with there. Burrow for me okay we're both Burrow okay
Starting point is 00:18:04 and then like playing upside I'm kind of expected to be down by like 10 points or so in projections not the projections really mean anything. Wondering if you'd go DAC or McCarthy, just for the upside with matchups being poor versus very good. I'd still go DAC because I have zero trust in JJ McCarthy.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Do you feel different though, Erickson? No. I'm going to play the guy that is good at quarterback. Yeah. It's Dak. Yeah. And then a really, really gross one. Estim A or Mason, if you had to pick between the two of them.
Starting point is 00:18:40 SMA. I love this one. This is great. I think I might go Mason, if I'm being honest with you, just because I love the matchup and the usage. I'm not sure. Is Estimate going to get 20 carry? I have no problem going estimate because he's more of like the volume play.
Starting point is 00:18:55 But like, are you that confident that Estimate is going to get all the usage? Well, you were the, remember back the last year, right? You were the one that reigned on everyone's estimate parade. I did. Just destroyed it. He was terrible. It was terrible.
Starting point is 00:19:11 I'm trying to keep that in mind. I just guess for me, it's my excited about Jordan Mason. I don't know. I feel like if Estimate did get the work, he's facing the Jets, and they should have been so bad. Yeah, they've been so bad.
Starting point is 00:19:21 They've played. I just feel weird about the work because they brought in like Naheem Hines and they got hole and stuff like that. I do like that, I don't know if I had it this year. I do have a like absolutely just murder ball a running back every year.
Starting point is 00:19:36 I remember it was Carson Steele two years ago where it was like, I smashed every under on the planet and then I'm murder bald estimate last year. I don't know if I had that this year, though, with someone that I was like, this is so hysterically stupid. I just was stupid likely last year.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Maybe it's estimate. Yeah, I need to get more like intense about the estimate thing that he's going to be a failure. Let's go to Sam. I am. What's up, Sam? Hey, thanks so much, guys. So I'm in a standard league.
Starting point is 00:20:06 I'm starting Henderson, but I need another running back and a flex. So I've got Giovante Williams, Jawar Jordan, Estime, Hampton, and then Michael Wilson is my only wide receiver. It's not playing. Ooh, okay. So this is really like Hampton, Giovante, and Michael Wilson. And you said this was standard? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Okay. So we need touchdown equity. Thank you, Sam. I am going to first defer to you. You go first. She only needed two. Right. She needed like a running back and a flex.
Starting point is 00:20:45 She did only need to. It is probably Hampton and Javon. Yeah, Javonte and Hampton. Okay, but, but, but, but Michael Wilson is like
Starting point is 00:20:52 seven in ECR this week. That equation is definitely quite a bit better than like, you know, a 16, 17 running back or whatever.
Starting point is 00:21:02 But then we, then we have to pull it back to like touchdown equity. And that's what does make it tough. I'm really torn on this because I think Michael Wilson's touchdown potential against the Falcons
Starting point is 00:21:11 when you know that Brissette is going to throw it 4,000 times. Like, it's pretty high up there. I mean, this decision is made for you if Javante does not play. Oh, it was Henderson. This decision is made for you if Marvin Harrison plays. And right now, it looks like he's leaning towards playing. So. Yeah, it's against Dallas.
Starting point is 00:21:32 What are the odds he catches a touchdown with Marvin Harrison, Jr. Also in the lineup. Like, not great. All right. Yeah, I mean, the two running backs is safer. standard touchdown equity there you got some good options by the way you got pretty sweet i'm down with that sam um bova what's up bova hey guys uh i put these in the chat too but um in one league i've got Shakir as my third wide receiver and then for a tight end and a flex spot and ppr um i've got
Starting point is 00:22:03 kiddle waller and pits so if london plays i put him in over Shakir and then would you do Waller over Pitts in that scenario? Or would you still go with Pits? Both Falcons for me. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I'm pretty anti-Wallor in general. It's like heavy, just only touch on equity and you, I don't know what the hell you is going to be.
Starting point is 00:22:25 And I do assume London is going to play and I am ranking him as such. All right. Number two. Two, so I have three wide receiver spots in a PPR semi and I've got, they're all like in the same bucketish for me. Right. So Michael Wilson, only if Marv sits. It's McConkey, London, Mike Evans, Tett, and Devontas Smith.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Some damn it. I got a three. I mean, I think assuming health, London Evans and Michael Wilson are my like locks into this. What do you think, Erickson, you feel? You feeling a little lad against Dallas over Michael Wilson or a little Tetaroa? Yeah, if Marvin Harris is a junior plays, I would do lad. You really think Michael Wilson's going to get hit that hard if Marvin is back? I hate that.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Yeah, because it already happened. Like, like, it stopped happening. It'd be different if we didn't see it happen already, but it did. So I'm not trying to overthink it where, oh, well, no, this week it's not going to happen when we saw it. We have a pretty large sample size of Marvin Harrison Jr. when he's on the field, Michael Wilson doesn't get targeted. And it seems like preposterous considering how good Michael Wilson has been and how many targets he sees, but it's just not. the way this offense is operated when both guys have been on the field. Michael Wilson has been a ghost when Robert Harrison Jr. has been active.
Starting point is 00:23:46 So if he's back, just Michael Wilson is a low confidence play for me unfortunately. And you went McConkey over Tetaro? Tetero is injured right now. So we've got to see if he's even going to play. But if he's in, if he's in, if he's in, I'm a team act. Over McCongy. Okay. He is injured.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Okay. And then that same league, right? So I got Alan and Burrow at QB. So I'm favorite to win. I got good receivers. I got James Cook at RB1, RB2. It's bad. I have Montgomery, McCrosky, Merritt, and Estimae.
Starting point is 00:24:23 And I was leaning Estimate. It ain't Bill. I'll tell you that. It ain't Bill. I lean Montgomery. Maybe I will just lean into hating Estimate this week. Erickson, what do you think, Estimate or Montgomery? I like Estimay.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Estimay. All right. I mean, he's the theoretical. start or yeah absolutely i i just want to hear like a little bit more about it i want to hear them talk about the situation you know because it's just like they're picking up hines and holes going to be there they're going to abandon it is estimate going to get 12 carries and they're going to see some hole and then they're going to be ridiculous and throwing naham like i don't know like i just estimate ain't that good ain't that good to deserve the whole thing so more i'm thinking about it i
Starting point is 00:25:03 think i am going to lean into like super anti-estimate as we go it'll just it'll vibe for me I mean, you imagine having your playoff championship hopes on Adric Estime at this point? Idevo. What's up? One, guys. My powerhouse team of high weeks, six weeks in a row came to an end. So that one's gone. But luckily I have another team still in the playoffs here.
Starting point is 00:25:26 All right. Neat-lex options. This is PBR. So need two of these four guys. Mike Evans, who I assume is definitely going to be it. Devontas Smith, Terry, and then 8. Mitchell. So is Terry, who was after Mike again?
Starting point is 00:25:43 I'm sorry. It was Devontas Smith. Yeah, Terry and Ad. Mitchell. And you need one more? I need, well, I need two of the four. Well, we're doing Mike Evans. Yeah, he's not even a, he's not even a question here.
Starting point is 00:25:59 So it's, uh, is really Terry or Devontas Smith. You feel really good about that? Commanders. That is the team. Terry McLauron. though. That's the name. Eagles. That's a defense. Jalen Hertz, quarterback, though. That's a worry. QB 2 and ECR as a week.
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Starting point is 00:27:29 What's up, Dandy? Hello, can you hear me. We got you. Awesome. I've got a bit of a two-part question here. So if London plays would you still rate pits over Parkinson? Ooh. Well, that's a Thursday question, so that's illegal.
Starting point is 00:27:49 So, but no, so no Thursday questions. How much do you, let me phrase it differently, Erickson. How much do you like pits with London active? Not very much, not nearly as much. I talked about this on the prediction show with Worm. You should go back and listen to it. He averages like seven points per game, when Drake London is healthy.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Like it's... And they, I think they said too that like, listen, Pitts was being used as a number one wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:28:19 He was getting the Drake London usage. So, yeah, I mean, I think Pitts is like outside of a top 10 tight in. Like,
Starting point is 00:28:27 he's a lot closer to the, who are the fringy guys we were talking about? Like, I think I'd still start him. I think I'd still start him over Parkinson. What about Loveland? It's still a good match up for him.
Starting point is 00:28:38 still has a floor, which is pretty solid. But I don't think he's going to be like a top three guy or top five guy. Can I ask a follow-up without? As long as it's not a Thursday question. Okay, so let's say Pitts is sitting on my bench tonight and London's out. Would you play him over Tracy? No. No.
Starting point is 00:29:03 I'd still go with the number one running back. That would be the play. That'd play the play. There you go, brother. There you go. I was kind of, I think I was confused by that question. Well, like, well, I think, what's up, dude? I think it was like, do we, if London is out, do we think that London, that Pitts is such a great play that you need to play him over predominant flex options?
Starting point is 00:29:26 You know what I'm saying? Like, I think that's where that was going like, like, like, I think, I think I would actually change my answer then. I would try to play Pitts if London is out, but I appreciate London's playing. So, yeah, I do too. He was practicing. He was like a DMP for four straight week. That, that, that was a, that was a, the one, by the way, Drake London was the one we were talking about with the Are They Playing Tool, is that London, when you go and look, and it's actually really cool on the tool, you can go look at his, like, practice history, and it's just DMPs for the last month. And he's finally back into practicing games. I think he's going to play.
Starting point is 00:29:57 And I've been pretty steadfast. There's no reason for them to press him. So when he's active, he should be good to go. And it looks like the practice schedule is well in his favor. But to that point, like Kyle Pitts is a monster if London's not there. But I think you don't have much to worry about. Sorry. I mentioned that to you.
Starting point is 00:30:13 I mentioned that, sorry. I just, I just want to say this one last thing. I mentioned it on the prediction show with Worme that Kyle Pitts had a big game last year against the Buccaneers, 91 yards, two touchdowns next week. He had one catch for 11 yards. Love it. Love it.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Corty, sorry, buddy. What you got? Now you guys are good. I hope you're doing well. Thanks. I had a question for my RV2. Thank you. So for RV2, I was watching the week 16 predictions with Wormley and Erickson.
Starting point is 00:30:45 And I recall Erickson saying Hampton's going to have a big game against Dallas this week. So I wanted to hear guys take on Hampton or Harvey coming up. What you think, Erickson? How big is that prediction of Hampton versus Hart? The Harvey injury stuff are being banged up. I don't particularly love. But I am, I got to say, I am staring at this. and you wonder why there is such a big discrepancy because Hampton is so good.
Starting point is 00:31:14 But the answer to that is Kamani Vidal. Vidal is just he is not going away and he's taking usage. It's reminiscent of so many other running back situations. It's like the, I'm trying to think of which one I want to use. Is it like the Monong guy and D'Andre Swift one? Is it more of like the two great back system? I mean like Vidal is going to get 10 plus touches. So to me, Hampton is kind of capped it like 15.
Starting point is 00:31:40 is that good enough against the Dallas Cowboys to go over what should be the predominant workload for RJ Harvey, but it is a tougher matchup. I'm still leaning RJ Harvey in there because I think his touchdown equity is maybe slightly higher even though it's a better matchup for Hampton. I just think Hampton's just going to let go with some downs because Vidal has been so good,
Starting point is 00:32:02 but what do you think, Erickson? I don't even know who you have higher. And by way, ECR is 18 on Harvey and 23 on Hampton. Yeah, so part of the prediction, because we do these really early in the week, was based on that Quinn and Williams wouldn't play. So he's been back at practice. So I don't know if that means he's like officially cleared the concussion protocol. So that matters pretty substantial because Dallas, their run defense hasn't been nearly as bad when he has been part of that defense since they traded for him. So I think that might be a little bit more into Harvey, like you said, where even though it is.
Starting point is 00:32:40 kind of like a tougher matchup. The Dallas defense doesn't become nearly as much as a pushover if Quinn and Williams is playing. Bidel does have a big role in that offense alongside Hampton. So I think maybe I would have to move Hampton down a couple of spots, but I think you can be ultimately, hey, if Williams doesn't play, fire up Hampton. But if it's the latter, then Harvey's probably like slightly the lean. Was that the only question, Courtney, or did you have another? Yeah, I had one last question. Sure.
Starting point is 00:33:08 So I saw Rice. It's not planned to practice today. So I've got London and McConkey on my bench. So I mean, obviously it's whether London gets clear to play. If he does, are you going London or McConkey? Oh, London. Yeah. I put London at six on my ranks.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Where did you put Amerixton? Nine, I think. I mean, he's like, where you were like top 10, wherever. Top 10. Top 10. What would you do if Rice was active and London was active? Who do you have higher? London.
Starting point is 00:33:40 I see London. Scott. I don't do the whole thing. Scott, what's up? It's a holidays. I'm an idiot. My brain. These shows are like,
Starting point is 00:33:53 it's either like a really enjoyable listen if you're into me. But like if you're not into like who I am and like how my brain works, then these shows are like more of a nightmare. So I don't know. You got to unmute though, Scott. Otherwise I'll just keep talking and I'll just. I'll be worse. All right, three, two, one,
Starting point is 00:34:11 figure it out, re-raise your hand, and I will bring you right back up on then as the next person. Willis. Can we do, let's do, or are we going to do,
Starting point is 00:34:18 we'll do Willis first. Yeah, I already clicked on Willis. Yeah, get him in here. What was? You hear me? What up?
Starting point is 00:34:25 Yes. Going on. I kind of have a similar question to the guy before with London. London and Michael Wilson. So if London's active, and okay but wait hold on hold on
Starting point is 00:34:40 if Harrison is also inactive if Harrison is inactive yeah and Michael Will I got you and Michael Wilson's there anything Harrison I still have London one I have one one spot higher but still
Starting point is 00:34:55 like yeah I mean I probably just play one and he's better okay let me ask you that also the are they playing tool says Harrison's gonna play So stupid Harrison so sick of him um well okay because i was going to ask is there willis do you have like is there somebody else that could be a question that you could put wilson in for if harrison was out or is that literally the only like wiggle room you've got i know i also have tett i have them
Starting point is 00:35:28 lower would put ted in if he was uh are you michael wilson with harrison over tett or is Roa over Michael Wilson. How are you doing that? In any space? I think you got a downgrade Michael Wilson significantly. Like you got, let's look at his game logs. Let's play a game of which game do you think
Starting point is 00:35:54 Marvin Harrison, you and your was healthy? I feel like I'm going to be really good at this game. Oh yeah, no, this will be fun. So let me just pull up this game once real quick. I really got my absolutely destroyed this game. Michael, Wilson, all right. So let's see.
Starting point is 00:36:07 We've got. So what do I say? Do I say Harrison's active? Yeah, so you got to tell me if he's active or inactive. Wide receiver, wide receiver three. Inactive. Wide receiver 13. Inactive.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Wide receiver 49. Active? Correct. Wide receiver two. Inactive. Wide receiver 17. Inactive. Could that have been the last five weeks, by the way?
Starting point is 00:36:37 Could that have just been the last five weeks you chose? That's the last five weeks. That was actually even standard, too. So he was actually a wide receiver of 50 the last time Marvin Harrison Jr. Floyd. So I just, I get that it's so good.
Starting point is 00:36:50 But, and trust me, like, I remember I was not downgrading Wilson enough. And that first came Harrison, because I was like, man, I can't put the toothpaste back into the tube or whatever that expression is.
Starting point is 00:37:01 And then that's exactly what they did. They're like, they're like, we're jamming this toothpaste back up into the tube. I just, you said Michael Wilson, So good. Gang, gang, gang. Michael Wilson's so good. Michael Wilson's so good. I can't. You got to get Marvin Harrison out of there for me. But yeah, it is what it is because Gannon is trash. Someone said, yeah, I agreed. All right. Scott, we'll bring you back up. There. Oh, I see it unmuted. What's up, Scott? Hey, guys. How are you doing? Good, man. How are you doing?
Starting point is 00:37:29 I'm all right. I'm in a PPR league and I'm having trouble with my second receiver. And I need one of these guys. Christian Watson, Justin Jefferson. George Pickens or Jaylen Waddle. And you need just one, correct? Correct. George Pickens and don't even look back. You got to play the upside. Like, Pickens could score the most points this week. And just.
Starting point is 00:37:57 I get, that's what I mean. I get that it's been rough the last couple weeks. I got to imagine this guy has to have at least one big game left for them before he gets the bag. I mean, I don't know. Did he lose the bag these last two weeks after they're dogging it out there? So I don't know. He's got too much upside. You can't.
Starting point is 00:38:15 I get it to Chargers, but I don't think the Chargers have faced a duo like Lamb and Pickens. They're playing at Jerry World in the dome. Doc usually plays really well after a loss anyway. So you just got to play Dickens. Let me ask you something. Let me ask you, buddy. Justin Jefferson does in this magical little world go off.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Like... What does that mean, though? Like he gets 100 yards He got Why to steer a 15 7 catches 112 yards And a touchdown
Starting point is 00:38:45 Okay Okay Like Bogman says he has to do What is the narrative Around Justin Jefferson Next year What's the narrative? Who is he?
Starting point is 00:38:56 Because he is stank He's cheeks He's just cheeks The last month Jay Jim McCarthy Doesn't know how to get him the ball Doesn't know how to run an offense That has one of the best players
Starting point is 00:39:07 in the universe And then Justin Jefferson goes out, smashes this week, and then I'll even throw in, is mediocre or bad, the rest of the season. What is the Justin Jefferson narrative in 2026? Who is he?
Starting point is 00:39:21 Top 12 wide receiver, first round pick, second, third, overrated? I think he's a, he's a, a, a, a,
Starting point is 00:39:27 a, low candidate. That's what I think it is going to be. I think that, I mean, what he's doing reminds me a lot. And again, it's been, it doesn't line,
Starting point is 00:39:38 up timeline-wise like it did with some of the other receivers from last year. But, well, we're talking about last year. How did Terry start the year with Jane Daniels? Wasn't great. No, it was not great. How was Cortland Sutton with Bo Nix, first half of the season? It's pretty bad. Jefferson called J.J. McCarthy on an interview that he did, I think, like, two weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:40:02 And I think this was kind of like a Freudian slut. He literally called him a rookie quarterback, which he's not a rookie. but given his experience level, he missed his entire rookie season. How many starts does McCarthy made in the NFL, like 10? So I think this is the classic case of rookie quarterbacks are traditionally bad for their fantasy wide receivers. And we even saw that when Carson Wentz was the quarterback during the Vikings. Like Jefferson was better in those games. And I think it's just a matter of, hey, rookie quarterback trying to develop chemistry with his number one wide receiver hasn't happened in year one.
Starting point is 00:40:32 But just the sample size isn't that big. So I think that this isn't a case of Kyler Murray is never going to get Marvin Harrison Jr. going because either of those guys, I think, or Marvin Harrison Jr. wasn't established as one of the best wide receivers in the NFL, which we know Jefferson has the capability and has been at one point the best wide receiver in the NFL. So I would be more optimistic about him in year two with Jefferson as the full-time starter, especially with Jefferson, or excuse me, with McCarthy, kind of taking some steps forward with some of these matchups over the last couple of games. So, I mean, is it going to be this weekend? it happens. I don't know, but eventually he will have a decent game, like you said, and maybe this week against the Giants. I'm just curious. I'm just curious what the narrative is going to turn into when he has a big game. It doesn't, I
Starting point is 00:41:16 mean, I will be hilarious if it's not this week, and then it's in the championship week against a tougher matchup after he had three weeks of the world's greatest matchups of all time. I just think it's funny at this point. Like, it's hilariously stupid. It's got to be this week or next week, right? Because he's got the Giants and the Lions next week.
Starting point is 00:41:33 So it's got to be one of those. I mean, a month. It's got to be. It wasn't two, two opportunities to ladder bed, Justin Jefferson. Oh my God. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:41 I mean, I mean, those are going to be fat payouts for a lot. What are, what do you think is probably? Never going to be lower. But you said that last week. It was like 60 yards.
Starting point is 00:41:50 And guess what? Hasn't done it in three straight weeks. But that's like my frustration. It's that thing right there. Like we keep going like, we're like, he's just got it. And it's like,
Starting point is 00:42:00 yeah, but he hasn't. And he's not. And the, the, the quality of targets. are bad and I don't see a prop up right now. I wanted to see what it look like.
Starting point is 00:42:10 See if you would ladder it. See what you're willing to do. I will say too, and I thought Warren made a good point with this. The Vikings are out of the playoffs. They're evaluated McCarthy. And they've also talked about, we want to get Jefferson 1,000 yards.
Starting point is 00:42:24 He's got three games left. He's got 832 yards. You imagine. So, like, dude, the targets are there. The air yards are there. They just need nine more games than they can get it. They're so close. close.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Nine more. Just like his alter ego, nine. Nine more games. Yeah, exactly. Nine more games and you can get him to a thousand yards. You can get 120. All right, I just want to actually,
Starting point is 00:42:48 okay, actually, to Jefferson's credit, look, we have seen him more than double his yardage. Output, nonetheless. Okay, so then you know what? 40, 44 is on the docket then tonight. That's on the table. Because he went from four yards
Starting point is 00:43:06 to 11 to 22. So bet the under this week. And the targets have come up every single or no, actually that's not right. No. He did double his targets last week on the week before. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Do you double his catches too? No, he's stuck at two, two and two. Two. Just two. I mean, no one's going to care. No one's on my side with any of this anyway.
Starting point is 00:43:30 So who cares? Let's go to X. What does X got for us? X going to give it to you. Premium. member fantasy pros discord a plus person cute dog in the picture joms i'd love jesson jose i was defender of him x are you coming up three two one right bag sold yeah re-ask if you want until then ronin what's that we had ronan no ron no i do uh oh all right no hold on yeah yeah hold on
Starting point is 00:43:57 yeah hold on i i devo had this in the chat i think it's worth growing out here buy hold sell the Grinch Rudolph Frosty the snowman Ooh I know where I stand here But is it Frosty from the creepy like 40s cartoon or just like
Starting point is 00:44:14 Natural Okay much better So buy what is it Buy sell hold Grinch Rudolph Frost Yeah not the other version Oh yeah I was like are we marrying them Um
Starting point is 00:44:27 By All right I'm going to buy the Grinch hold Frosty and get rid of Rudolph Rudolph's trash What Rudolf
Starting point is 00:44:44 I can't make the jokes on So I'm gonna buy Grinch I will hold Rudolph sell Frosty I think Frosty's trash So we're both buying Oh you think Frosty's trash What is it about that reindeer
Starting point is 00:44:56 What does he have to even do with holidays He's a snowman that comes to life for a day It just has to be his birthday. What does a deer have to do with holidays? That's at least... He's the reason they were able to deliver the presents. With a fake nose? He's like, hey, everybody.
Starting point is 00:45:11 I'm Rudolph. No, that's... Now he teaches you about why bullying is wrong. A lot of life lessons. It's okay to be different. You can rise above that and how you can use your differences to be awesome. So, yeah, I like Rudolph.
Starting point is 00:45:26 It's a great question. I'm glad we... I'm glad we stopped. for it. It was a very good one. But we both bought the Grinch though because Grinch is elite. All the versions of the Grinch too, by the way. Shout out to the Grinch for being animated good and then Jim Carrey good. Did you see the thing? Last thing. 20 million dollars Jim Carrey got for that role and when he found out about the makeup, he asked to give the money back because he didn't want to do it. Can you imagine? 23 hours of makeup you can put me. I mean, I guess that's
Starting point is 00:45:54 me saying that because I don't make millions of dollars. Do whatever you want. You imagine like, oh, I don't want the $20 million because I don't want to be uncomfortable. Zip it. Ronan, what's up? Sell. Gentlemen. We're doing great, man. Which one for you?
Starting point is 00:46:10 Which one are you buying? Frosty or no, which one gets sold? Frosty or Rudolph? Oh, Frosty. All day. Oh, okay. I guess I got to do that. All right.
Starting point is 00:46:21 What do you got? A couple quick ones here. Who's the start for the defense? K.C., New Orleans or Philly? Let's look at ECR. I think I like Casey. Casey is the rank the highest. Yeah, they're three,
Starting point is 00:46:37 Phillies, four, New Orleans is five. Okay, so that's pretty solid. That was easy enough there. Streaming defenses, baby. I love when everyone asks, like,
Starting point is 00:46:48 now it's the playoffs. It's like, which defense, which kicker? Haven't asked these questions all your long, but now I'm like, I need to know the exact even.
Starting point is 00:46:54 And it's, it adds an element of fun. And I always think about, like, man, why are we not thinking about the, throughout the entire season. It's just like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:47:03 I just think it's kind of funny that we get like even more into like, what I got to aim every defense perfectly. But hey, do whatever edge it takes, Welsh, get that up. Whatever edge, 100%. Let's go back to X. See if X got something for us. If X going to give it to us. If X going to give it to us.
Starting point is 00:47:22 Boom. It looks like not. You got to accept the invite. We've invited you to the. thing. You have to say yes, X. That's a ting. Egg boy. Egg boy.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Love me some egg boy. All right. You got to figure it out X and then we'll bring you back up. This is going to be one of those things where it's going to be like the end of the show. Will we convert the down? It actually makes it very exciting. So, uh, Polestar. What's up?
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Starting point is 00:48:10 Well, X definitely didn't give it to you, but I got a question to you. Let's hear it. You guys, I kind of came in a little late. Do you guys talk about... We do not. Thursday? No, not Thursday. Oh, what was the... I'm sorry, then I interrupted you.
Starting point is 00:48:24 What was the ask? Do you guys talk about like Tyler Warren replacement? or anything yet? No, we have not. Is that the question, or you want to be more specific? Yeah, just a little bit more specific. I was thinking about riding some Darren Waller there, but with the new QB change, I don't know how everyone feels about that.
Starting point is 00:48:42 And then, you know, maybe like a Loveland or Theo Johnson or something like that. What do you think? So. Go Loveland. Yeah, yeah. I was about to say, that's the only one that I like out of that list. Do want to point out the 49ers not great against tight ends right now. And a little bit more in the offense that I don't.
Starting point is 00:48:58 don't hate, hate Tyler Loveland, but I think Colson, I'm sorry, Tyler Warren, but I think Colson Loveland has like the best upside right now. But you go ahead,
Starting point is 00:49:05 Erickson. Well, no, I think, I think Lovelin's applied. We just got official word like 30 minutes ago, Burden and O'Dunes there both out.
Starting point is 00:49:13 So look, this is something, maybe this is kind of like calling my shot here, but if you look at Lovelin's box scores and game logs, it looks a kind of, it looks very similar to Harold Fannins box scores
Starting point is 00:49:24 where it's like three for 40, four for 40, like, consistently hitting a floor, and then the minute that one guy misses, he just blows up. Loveland is super talented to play. He was the first round.
Starting point is 00:49:36 He was picked before Tyler Warren was. So it's a matchup that we've already seen him established floor against the Packers, who are kind of reeling a bit on defense and injuries. Ben Johnson's been to lab this week with Loveland. Like, I feel like this could be a big game for him. And he's already established. Like, at worst case, 4'440,
Starting point is 00:49:55 okay, you can take that. That's not going to kill you. So I think Loveland is one of the top streamers. I agree. I completely. It's a great question. More questions can always be answered over on our Twitch. Check out our full schedule of live streams.
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Starting point is 00:51:04 Oh, and then I think we've got to go back to X. What's up, Polestar? Does your, oh, Mike doesn't work still. There's nothing we can do in these spots. But there's like an area where you can go and test in the settings. You can go test your audio. You might have to do that. Let's go to X.
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Starting point is 00:51:37 Let's go to Eggboy. What's up, egg boy? Let's see if eggs going to give it to you. Can you hear me? Eggs got it. Let's go. I'll just ask the tight end question of all tight end questions this weekend next week, I guess. Parkinson, Loveland, Warren,
Starting point is 00:51:54 anyone. Like, what do you, what do we think? For you're saying for week 17? I guess for this week and then maybe as a stash for next week too. I can carry two of them and I have Warren and yeah, I've worn already on my team, but it's not looking hot. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:52:09 I mean, because we don't do the Thursday questions here. Like I think I probably will most likely have pockets of probably still higher next week, I think as well without, because I'm assuming DeMonte Adams will also not play next week. So that would probably be the overall arching one. But Loveland, I got no way.
Starting point is 00:52:25 I think those two are super close. Yeah. I know that Parkinson's matchup next week isn't as great is against Atlanta, who's been pretty good against tight ends this year. So that's something to kind of keep in mind, Loveland. I mean,
Starting point is 00:52:40 I don't think a dude's is coming back, and he's playing the 49ers. Like, talking about a game that could get nutty, bears at Niners, especially if Lovin comes off a big game against, man, dude, I want to move Loveland up so high in my ranking. Like, where do you have them right now?
Starting point is 00:52:56 Dude, I like, yeah, I got him at 12. And it's like, like, why, why can't I start him over Harold Fannan? Like, they should see some more volume. And he's not, one of them is not facing the Bills. I do think Harold Fandon is like legit, kind of like a sit this week, to be honest. Like, I feel like there's a lot of better streamers than him. The Bills matchup is brutal. I'm really the only guy that's eaten the Bills was Mike Keseki.
Starting point is 00:53:24 but he plays slot. Like he's a glorified slot receiver, not really a tight end. So Fanon concerns me. And then Joanne Johnson kind of seems like he's like set up pretty well too. There's no baili. Yeah, I like him too. He's facing the Jets.
Starting point is 00:53:40 Jets are terrible all over their defense. So, man, like, and then Gadsden, too. I talked about him in the ranking show. I think he's kind of interesting. His matchup sucks next week though, so it's really him is week 16. I think Juan Johnson has another good matchup too,
Starting point is 00:53:54 next week. So he said Parkinson Lovelland. I think dude, I think I'd rather have one than the love one for the next two weeks. I'm down with that. Because if he hits against the Packers, dude,
Starting point is 00:54:11 this could be like, oh, this rookie titan is like breaking out all over the place. And you want him in your lineup against the 49ers. So did you say the 49ers have been better against tight ends? No, they have not. Well, when Fred Warner was alive, then they were great. But now they struggle. Yes. Okay. Yeah. So I think Loveland is like the full blown upside play where it's weird. You know, this season, it seems like some of these rookies have kind of like fallen off where usually we see rookies kind of hit at the end of the season where it's like, oh, it's rookie's breaking out. But it seems like we got so many early breakouts from these rookies that they kind of like instead hit the rookie wall, which is like not ideal. So maybe Loveland is the one that's like, hey, he is the rookie that breaks out at the end of the season where we saw a lot of guys peak so much earlier. So I think Lovelin is probably the
Starting point is 00:54:56 dash guy. And I don't think this week he's like such a worse play than some of the other guys. I think there's like a pretty strong like streaming tier this particular week now. It's easy to say that and then one guy pops off and the other guys all suck. Yeah. But if you're doing both weeks, I think Lovell probably has the most upside of the next two games. Eggboy also said Waddle or Robinson, Wondale. Wondale or Waddle? I'm terrified of Waddle this week.
Starting point is 00:55:22 Yeah, I go Wondale as well. picking up our two guys that couldn't get on Polestar said flex question Aaron Jones or Estime instead of Jutkins, Javante or Jennings? Absolutely not. I want Judkins, Javante, and Jennings before I want either one of those two guys
Starting point is 00:55:39 and if I was, if I had to have a replacement, it'd be Aaron Jones over Estime. Yeah. Yes, I would do Aaron Jones over probably, it would probably be Judkins. I'd probably put Aaron Jones in over. You would have. actually do that or you're saying if you
Starting point is 00:55:55 had to like you would put Aaron Jones in over Jutkins right now? No but if this person is convinced I don't want to start like Judge Gontar Jennings like Aaron Jones would be the next bet not estimate to your point. Gotcha. Again you're the one that is the voice of reason
Starting point is 00:56:11 when it comes to Audrakeesstime again I'll be fully transparent it's this is a shoot for the moon type of play because of the Jets matchup like if he's playing any other defense he's like not on the radar are, but there's no floor when it comes to what kind of usage you get. Like, I know that it's, it's kind of like fun to talk about, but I mean, this could
Starting point is 00:56:31 theoretically be the Tase of Hill game that we thought could happen like eight weeks ago. Yeah. We're like, oh, we decided to use Tazin Hill a ton this week and screw everyone over that decided to play Oger Estimate. So like, that's just something you have to be concerned about. But I think there's a real ceiling with estimate. If he does get the work, it is the Jets and they've given up five straight top 10 RV finishes.
Starting point is 00:56:50 So there's upside there, but I think he's more of a flex. Play then like a locked and loaded RB2 to your point about let's pump the brakes maybe a taty. Yeah, I just don't. I just don't trust the volume. Yeah, I just the volume is not what I don't trust. And then X said Joe Burrow or Brock Purdy, six point passing touchdown league. And then there's another little side question. And then we'll get our last couple ones and we'll get out of here.
Starting point is 00:57:13 Burrow over Purdy, but it's super close. Right? I think I think Burroughs just going to. Yeah, you thought you said dominate. And then pick two full PPR. DJ Moore, Reed, or Iqbuka. So kill one of them. Probably DJ Moore.
Starting point is 00:57:30 I just don't trust DJ Moore. I put Ibuka both or both of them. DJ Moore, Ibuka. Who is the last guy? I got to go back to it. DJ Moore, uh, Reed. Jade and Reid. Dude, when, when Fitz dropped that stat that Reed has one game with double-ditching targets.
Starting point is 00:57:51 I almost fell out of my chair. I messaged him after the show because I was like, dude, how is this even possible? and I looked it up. You know, he had eight catches for 27 yards in that game. It's amazing. I think I would probably bench you. Okay. I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Like, do you think who is a higher ceiling? More or reed? More. Yeah. I mean, he showed it last week. Yeah, I have no problem with that. I think, I think, yeah, again, whenever I'm like torn, I was just trying to ask myself, okay, like, which guy has the highest ceiling?
Starting point is 00:58:24 Yeah. I can live with it. I don't care about floors, like whatever, but more showed last week two touchdowns and Reed has just been capped in this offense for basically his entire career. Last couple on the voice, Crown. What's up, Crown? Hey, how's it going? Good. So I had kind of like a two-phase question.
Starting point is 00:58:42 I'm contemplating with Loveland and Adunze and Burden that playing DJ Moore over Devante Smith as my first question. And then my second question is just with the rain on the Thursday night game. The opponent I'm going up against has Matthew Stafford, J.S.N. and Puka. So, like, I kind of want to hear your takes on the rain game. And then I'm also have Myers as my kicker in that game. Should I drop him and pick up, I can get, like, Elliot from the Eagles as my kicker. We both shake our head down. We don't do Thursday questions on here.
Starting point is 00:59:18 So we have no opinions on the Thursday games for this show. but on the first part of the question I would start Devante Smith over I would too yeah I would also We can briefly hit on Thursday after we stop recording if you really want to Yeah just never while we're recording 100% Dark Yoda last two here
Starting point is 00:59:42 Hey guys I have a three running back saying to start I got Javante Williams, Bucky Chase or Trivian Say it again Bucky Giovante Trevion and who? Yeah, Chase. Chase Brown. Oh, I'm I'm chasing.
Starting point is 00:59:59 I think I'm, I think he said start three. Oh, so we just sit one. I think, yeah, is it? Yeah,
Starting point is 01:00:06 so you got to sit one. So, Bucky's in. Chase is in. Or do you want to? Trayvian. I was thinking binge Trayvion.
Starting point is 01:00:16 I think I might bench Chase. I mean, he's got to so many passes, though. Oh, you come back to the, like, what is your upside play that you need to do?
Starting point is 01:00:26 You know what I'm saying? Like if you need the upside, Trevion Henderson over Chase Brown, yep, you want core stuff. I probably keep Chase Brown in there. And then the other guy was Giovante. So,
Starting point is 01:00:36 so Javante's definitely in. Bucky's definitely in. And if Javante's out, because he's hurt, and then your question's already answered, so. So what's your, so rank it then?
Starting point is 01:00:45 I mean, right now I have it, Bucky, Javon, or excuse me, Bucky, Giovante, Chase Brown, Trevion. Yeah. Travion's last. And that was what we were leaning. Unless you need upside, then get Trevion in and maybe bench Chase Brown. Boom.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Right? I think, yeah, that sucks. I don't want to bench Travion, but just based on the workload, Chase Brown catches so many passes. Yeah. All right. Last one. Big Bamzel? Bamazel? Just big. Big B.
Starting point is 01:01:17 That's big. Uh-oh. going one oh there we go hey guys can you hear me we got you man yep all right thanks for all the help the season uh actually in my championship uh this week starting out and are we only playing mcbride or kittle over bowers um looking to maybe get like a big uh swing off someone else. I mean, technically. I'm saying it.
Starting point is 01:01:51 Yeah, because we both think London's going to play and that brings Kyle Pitts down. Yes, but we don't feel great about it. But you know he's just like a floor play. But I just don't know if there's a lot of guys under him that's like, oh my gosh, this is the big, you know, I'm going to spring for dot, dot, dot, dot. Because we know the Bowers is just going to get a lot of volume. I think you have to just plug your nose and put Bowers out there. right yeah he's also getting gino back too like that matters a lot yeah gino loves throwing a million
Starting point is 01:02:21 yeah we saw last we saw the downgrade quarterback last week i think that was kind of being held against bowers a little bit where well he had kenny picket as his quarterback like he's a backup so gino back not playing outdoors at philly again at houston still i mean obviously it's i want to say a better defense but you're playing indoors and i mean gino's just going to sling it to brock bowers 15 times i'll take my chance but so i mean i think early in the week i said like like pits over Bowers, but with Drake London back, I think I just go right back to Bowers. He's too good.
Starting point is 01:02:51 He's too good of a player, man. Yeah, too healthy. Too healthy, Lois, too healthy, too healthy Bowers. All right, that is it. I think potentially for the year. Oh, by the way, I just don't, I think they said this. I just see Tom Pellasar reporting as we're recording this.
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