The Herd with Colin Cowherd - FantasyPros - The Extra Point: Playoff Start/Sit Decisions and Chat Q&A (Ep. 1896)

Episode Date: December 13, 2025

Join Chris Welsh and Andrew Erickson as they tackle your questions LIVE on Discord every Thursday at 2 PM EST at fantasypros.com/chat. Timestamps: (May be off due to ads) Intro - 0:00:00 Playoff Sit/Start Decisions - 0:02:13 Michael Wilson’s Outlook - 0:06:56 Flex Options - 0:08:01 Tyler Warren vs. Isaiah Likely - 0:11:26 Tough RB Benching Decision - 0:13:35 Looking For Upside - 0:15:31 FantasyPros My Playbook - 0:19:06 Punting Playoff Spot For Draft Position in Dynasty - 0:19:59 Comparing Playoff Schedules - 0:25:26 Drake Maye vs. Joe Burrow - 0:33:34 Tough Flex Decisions - 0:35:00 QB Upside Options - 0:36:30 Terry McLaurin, Tet McMillan, or RJ Harvey - 0:40:02 FantasyPros on Twitch - 0:45:13 More Flex Decisions - 0:46:16 Zach Charbonnet vs. Tony Pollard - 0:48:58 Consolation Playoff Bracket WR Options - 0:50:18 Deep RB/Flex Options - 0:52:43 Seahawks vs. Texans DST - 0:57:09 Filling WR/Flex Spots + Justin Jefferson’s Outlook - 0:59:03 Outro - 1:01:48 Helpful Links: Hard Rock Bet - All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up for Hard Rock Bet and make a $5 bet and you'll get $150 in bonus bets if you win. Head over to Hard Rock Bet, sign up and make your first deposit today. Payable in bonus bet(s). Not a cash offer. Offered by the Seminole Tribe of Florida in FL. Offered by Seminole Hard Rock Digital, LLC, in all other states. Must be 21+ and physically present in AZ, CO, FL, IL, IN, MI, NJ, OH, TN or VA to play. Terms and conditions apply. Concerned about gambling? In FL, call 1-833-PLAYWISE. In IN, if you or someone you know has a gambling problem and wants help, call 1-800-9-WITH-IT. GAMBLING PROBLEM? CALL 1-800-GAMBLER (AZ, CO, IL, MI, NJ, OH, TN, VA) My Playbook - Sync your league instantly to My Playbook to get custom advice on how to manage your team throughout the season. See your league’s top available players, power rankings, and more for free! Check the “Are They Playing” tool each week to get the latest game-day availability odds for all injured players. If you’re premium – you unlock all kinds of helpful waiver, trade, lineup and league analysis tools. You can even auto-start your team’s optimal lineup each week with Auto-Pilot. Sync your league and dominate every week of the season with My Playbook at fantasypros.com/myplaybook or on the FantasyPros App Follow us on Twitch - The team here at FantasyPros is taking questions all week, every week on Twitch. Follow us on Twitch at twitch.tv/fantasypros and never miss a stream! Discord – Join our FantasyPros Discord Community! Chat with other fans and get access to exclusive AMAs that wind up on our podcast feed. Come get your questions answered and BE ON THE SHOW at fantasypros.com/chat Leave a Review – If you enjoy our show and find our insight to be valuable, we’d love to hear from you! Your reviews fuel our passion and help us tailor content specifically for YOU. Head to Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever else you get your podcasts and leave an honest review. Let’s make this show the ultimate destination for fantasy football enthusiasts like us. Thank you for watching and for showing your support – https://fantasypros.com/review/ BettingPros Podcast – For advice on the best picks and props across both the NFL and college football each and every week, check out the BettingPros Podcast at bettingpros.com/podcast, our BettingPros YouTube channel at youtube.com/bettingpros, or wherever you listen to podcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I had the buy week. So Drake May. being on by, didn't hurt me. So looking forward to, I think I'm taking on Joey this week, Joe Pisapea. Pretty important win. What is it? Semi-finals, quarterfinals. I don't know exactly how these things work. I just show up and win.

At least that's the goal. And hopefully the goal that we can help get you to today breaking down week 15. So no more. We got to get into it, Welsh. I don't do it. Yeah, we're invested. We're with you, whether I got the fantasy pros guillotine or chopped finals. and we got some industry stuff, Flex moving on to the playoffs.

So we're invested with you. We're here for you. Speaking of you, as Erickson said, let's get to it. We are going to our studio audience, not talking about Thursday night football games. But we are going to talk with Cornwallis. Cornwallis is first step on the show today. What's up, dude? Hey, what's up, guys?

Got some start questions kind of in a bad spot per week one with London out and Lamb probably out. Okay, what do you got? though I kind of got this clump of guys between 50 and 75 and I need three of them I don't know really how to assess any of it but it's breese hall doubtle devon neal btj burden and monangai it's also pprr um okay you're gonna have to unless you put it in the chat run it one more time and we need three of these we know breese hall's in there and I feel like that was an easy yes uh who are the other guys okay uh hall doubtle devon Neil. Okay. BTJ and then the Bears burdened in Monagai. I mean, Dowdell did pop up on the injury report, but if like he's good to go, I think

that would be him. Kind of probably also lean Dev and Neil. What do you think about this, Erickson? Yeah, I think it's probably those three running backs. I don't like BTJ. BTJ is not where I'm trying to go. Now, if let's say Dowdell were to not play, do you have a pivot? When I'm back.

Okay. Monongah. Cornwallis was there any other? questions. Nope, that's it. That's a big one. All right, well, good luck, brother. It'd be nice if you have the flexibility, by the way, literally flex to put in three

running backs. That's pretty dope. 336 Hoki, premium member on the Discord. Sup. Yes, how you doing? Good, dude. What's up? All right, so drop my team in the chat.

It's a list of available players. Starting off, you're coming up with this week, made the playoffs, three seed, finished 11 and 3, but we've seen by points. The two teams in front of me scored quite a few more points. So I'm having to play in the first week. Unfortunately, they didn't get the buy like Erickson did. So looking at the team away, I have a setup right now, I feel pretty good about my starters for 15.

Certainly quarterback running back. Wide receiver is really the only question. My wide receiver room has just gotten hammered this year, Hunter, BTJ, Garrett Wilson, on and on and on. So I got Michael Wilson and BTJ in there now. do you see anybody on my bench that you would sub in for either one of those guys? Well, first, I don't see anything in the chat. So you might need to recheck that.

So unless I'm... Oh, you did? Nope. You got to scroll up. That's where it is. Yeah, I dropped it in right before we started, but I'll drop it again. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it looked like it wasn't part of the thing.

Okay, so the question is your bench and any potential pickups that we're having. Erickson, is there anything you see in like final roster? construction? I don't think so. I mean, I think if there was like an obvious answer, I think that you probably would have been able to identify it too. Like that's your,

to your point, it's like, Thomas Wilson, I get that they're not perfect, but Wilson's a lot of volume and Thomas has looked better the last couple weeks. So again, there's no other guy that's screaming to me like, oh, this is going to be pure Saul week over Thomas

and Michael Wilson. I don't really see that type of scenario there. A couple fringier tight ends that you have, like maybe one of the mouth scores because I score a touchdown, but there's no one that I'm thinking, oh, man, you have to add this guy and start him this week. So I think you have the right guys in there.

Yeah, I mean, I don't mind Gisicki this week, but it's just like you got a barrage of all the same tight ends. It's like Kincaid, if you want to go touchdown equity waller, I don't think anybody stands out. So it's just a bunch of like NAS, and I think you're pretty well constructed. there. I,

sorry, go ahead. Oh, I just wanted to comment on Giseki, because I know I talked about him on my prediction show

with Worme earlier in the week, and I liked him a lot. But the thing that's really bad about his splits, though, even though it's been

usually good without T. Higgins in the lineup, the one matchup that he's been bad with, with T. Higgins out of the lineup

has been against the Ravens, which kind of sucks, because even like Thanksgiving was at the Ravens. He didn't do a lot. Last year, he played at Ravens without T. Higgins and I wish I'd known this before when I did my prediction probably

would have changed it a little bit and I would just projected the Ravens tight ends to just go absolutely nuclear because that's what everyone does against the Cincinnati Bengals but um just to kind of like be transparent with Keseki even if Higgins is out it has been not been a smash spot for him matchup wise as I thought that it had been in previous so again going back to Thomas and Wilson are probably the best plays I Devo so up dude Hey, how's it going? Erickson, I'm in agreements with you about being worried

about Michael Wilson against Houston. If Marvin Harrison Jr. is not playing, I got to fill two flex spots with Michael Wilson, Teteroa, Chris Olave. And I also have Chuba, who I don't assume is on the table there, but might, I guess, be thrown in. So I need two of those four guys. I would, I mean, I'd happily start Team Mac and Olav.

over Michael Wilson whether Harrison is not playing like he D&Ped on Wednesday like the same thing that he did last week so I don't think that he's going to play I don't know do you disagree Walsh the question was to you that was an Erickson only question I agree with whatever you say that was Erickson only we would like to only get

your opinion I didn't exist there so with whatever you say goes Jorge the Lefty another premium member on Discord what's up guys so thank God for Ladd getting only two points because it got me into the playoffs by a tiebreaker of one.

I wasn't expecting to be in the playoffs. So now I get to ask you guys some questions. So first off, I have to make a decision of what to do with my flex slot. I'm feeling pretty good about the rest of my lineup. I mean, I've got Jamar Chase, I've got A. Chan, I've got Devonte, Bucky,

Jackson. What I need to figure out is, do I trust K-9 enough to start him in flex, or do I put up Jaden Reed? I do have a waiver wire bid for C-Rod. I'm not sure if that's going to go through, but assuming that I only have between K-9 and Jaden Reed, what we suggest. Easy. Ken Walker, even if you get Chris Rodriguez, I'm Walker over all of them. What about you, Erickson?

Upside, right? You got into the playoffs. Don't play the 4-4-40 Jaden Reed play. Because that's just what he does. Like, and if he scores a touchdown or not, he's facing at the Broncos, not ideal. But how many points are the Seahawks implied to get this week? Just like a crazy amount. And if they, Philip Rivers looks like a 44-year-old quarterback, the Seahawks could do whatever they want. Yeah, if the Seahawks have an early lead. If they have an early lead, what are they going to do when they get the ball? They're just going to run the hell out of the ball. So, and that's going to go between Charvin and Ken Walker.

Yeah. And if it's one of these things where they kill the Seahawks and, of course, everyone else that scores, so be it. But if the Seahawks lay 35 points at home, and I'm telling you that before the game starts, and that's kind of what the market is telling us before the game even starts. I think you got to click the button on Ken Walker. I think that his upside is significantly higher than Jane Reed. Even if Reed seems like he has a pretty high floor, just the way that he's used in that offense. Jorge, you might have more question?

Yeah, yeah, no, please go ahead. So for my other team, I was able to secure the number one seed. The challenge is that I made some trades. I traded Harvey and Sutton for Jefferson thinking that was the play. Now I'm a bit thin because London's out. Do you guys assume that London's out for the season? and should I effectively try to build depth so I'm not just starting Jefferson and Devonthe?

Or do you think I kind of assume he's going to come back in week 16? I personally have always kind of thought he was going to come back. 16. I never thought he was going to play in this 15. But, I mean, you shouldn't move forward like that's a guarantee. But what do you do if it's not a guarantee, Erickson? What's your take on that? Yeah, I would say add wide receiver depth

because you don't know if he's going to play. I think that it seemed like to me it was always going to be like that four game type of absence. I thought it was going to at least be two. Maybe because it's a short week. That's actually why we're not seeing him this week. That's why I didn't think he. Yeah. Yeah, maybe if they were playing on Sunday, he maybe would have suited up and play.

I know last week he was still like limping around, but 10 days off. I think maybe he comes back. I'm not so sure he'll get like shut down. I don't know if the Falcons are in a position where they really are going to do. I mean, this whole coaching staff is probably going to get fired anyway. So if Drake London, hey, I'm healthy, I want to play. It seems like the players have been pretty vocal about that this year where we don't care if we're non-contention. If I'm healthy, I'm playing.

That's what most players have been pretty vocal about. So I would expect Drake London, if he's healthy, he would play in week 16. So that being said, could be wrong. He could get nicked up again. And then you'll need more wide receiver depth. So I would make some plans just a case. Yes, agreed. Make some plans.

Kyle, premium member on the Discord. What's up, Kyle? Unmute that, Mike. It's okay. Hey, guys. So I got two quick questions. First one is, would you bench Tyler Warren? I have them everywhere for Likely if Rivers suits up or doesn't suit up.

I guess it doesn't. Well, you broke up at the end there. But I'm Tyler Warren over Likely. I do think they're super close. We had a long discussion about this on the Tide In show. I don't know as of recording this if that has released or not. So no blaming if you haven't heard that. But I think the safety net is Warren,

but likely has sky high potential. So maybe that's a way to approach your matchup. If you're like needing to reach for the stars a little bit, you need a little bit extra. Likely is the one I think that has like the high end potential. But I think Warren's getting 10 targets in this game. Eric, I don't remember where you sat on the likely versus Warren thing. Because you were born at 12, right?

Yep. Yeah, so, and I don't disagree with you on your take about Warren, like, seeing a bunch of targets. But if that's six for 60, is that when you're, like, does that make the difference in your matchup? Like, that's where I don't feel as confident about Tyler Warren. I think that he's still startable. Like, again, I haven't tied on 12. So technically he's still like a tight in one. But, I mean, if you want a league weak winning performance, not coming out of this Colts offense. I just highly doubt that that's going to happen.

whereas Isaiah likely he was a top he was going to be a top three tight end against the magnols two weeks ago and he just didn't finish the play so he was going to be a top three tied in last week let's they put that yeah had they put that as a catch when he had three feet down yeah but like I said I think maybe that's your approach if you just kind of need to know you need to make sure you get you 10 points and everything else is going to carry I think Warren's a great spot but um I mean likely has the potential to be one of the top tight ends and, you know, be a 20 plus point guy. So I think that's the way to approach that.

Kyle, did you have another question? Did your internet get better? You can unmute. Yeah, I have, yeah, hello. Yeah, I'm sorry about that. I have one more question. I need pretty much bench one between Judkins, Trayvon Henderson, and RJ Harvey.

It's a full PPR. Jutkins, Harvey, and all the rookies. I didn't realize that. Which one of you bench in, Erickson? I think I'd probably bench Judkins Ooh my I'm in it My gut is Trevion

But let's take a look at the EC Let's see what ECR has to say here ECR has real quick Judkins 15 Travion 16 And Harvey 18 I forgot Harvey's got that Green Bay matchup Maybe it is Harvey actually

Yeah but he plays on But he has the best role Right Because he's evolved in all facets So Judkins doesn't catch passes Harvey catches passes and gets goal line work. The thing with Judkins to me is the Browns are missing half their offensive line. I'm playing on the road in Chicago as seven point underdogs.

That concerns me game script-wise where I get that, I don't know if you, this was kind of like I report Jerome Ford also like went on injured reserve. So he's like gone from this offense. So it's just him and Dylan Samson now. But if it's negative game script, like I think you're just going to see a lot of Dylan Samson, which concerns me about Judkins and his. dealing. Henderson probably has the fringiest touch projection, but can't bench him when he's facing the bills in a game that you could see be really high scoring. So, and I think Harvey has the best role because he's involved if they're winning, if they're losing, at the goal line. It's not like the Broncos are going to be shut out. I don't think they'll get shut out.

So I agree. This one is tight, but I think I think Judkins has the fringes profile. So, Toy, Roy, rice pudding. We're gonna get to we're gonna get to serious questions this week.

We're rolling. Rice pudding, what's up? Thanks up guys. Can you hear me? Yeah, we got you good. Oh,

nice. I hope you guys are doing well. Thanks for all the insight, as always. Absolutely. I need a miracle to win this week. So I'm kind of looking

just for like most upside, basically. Let's do it. My opponent has just all the best matchups. Anyways, looking for either

dart or may what you guys think there i've been riding may all year so i'm kind of like can find to just go with him he's been solved yeah i think may is like you kind of you have to he's also like exponentially ranked higher like he's three versus eight in eCR but yeah may is the play yeah and then um i know we're not feeling great about breeze but um how do you feel about between brees and hampton or even monong guy what you think ericson i i get he got to play breeze probably Yeah. That spot for him, though. Like, it's, yeah.

I know, it feels terrible. Honestly, it's, it's one of these things where you kind of hope that this knee thing, I don't say it makes him inactive, but I feel like it would almost be a side relief for fantasy managers where they don't have to subject themselves to a potential landmine situation with Brees Hall if it's Brady Cook starting for this team on the road against the Jaguars, who are the number one defense against running backs. Like, oh, it's like such a terrible spot. I look at Monagai.

I'm thinking. I was Ben Johnson not going to load this guy up with 20 carries against the Browns. You just got destroyed by Tony Pollard. Of all the running backs, the Browns is could get destroyed by. So I would stay up to date with where the rankings are. Right now, it's probably going to say Breece Hall, but closer to kickoff, if we get more DNPs from Breece Hall and his knees flaring up, like, I could see pivoting to somebody else.

So, yeah. And you're saying, you're saying Monong guy over Hampton. Because Hampton's funny because you're just like, ooh, Hampton got the usage. You're like, okay, fingers crossed, please just don't be against Kansas City or Houston. And you're like, ah, crap, it's Kansas City. I hate this. It stinks. And Menangay's got Cleveland.

And I think, too, I mean, Vidal, I don't think is going away. Right? Hampton is, I think, kind of subjected to, hey, you are another one of these committee backs, although you are talented. And the Chargers offense, just, I mean, it's so broken. It took a superhero performance from Justin Herbert and seven sacks. like a 65% pressure rate and it took them to overtime to get to 22 points

but Mononga you would go over Hampton if you're following those tea leaves on Brees and then you're uncomfortable with the and he's inactive or something yeah I think so I just I really like the spot for Monongai I think December in Chicago Soldier Field

he runs so physical Ben Johnson found is Dave Montgomery and it's Kyle Monongai so I just I like him a lot this week. Okay. Nice. And then just do more real quick.

Kittle or Fanon? And then if CD doesn't play in the flex, would you probably then play Menongai or even Fanon, I guess? Or Christian Watson, but I'm scared about that. I'm sure. Good question. Definitely rice. Or I'm sorry, Kittle. I don't know what the hell I was saying.

Definitely. I think you know what I meant. Kittle. And then on the other side. I think Lamb's playing, so I actually don't think that's an issue. But if it were, you know, what, I don't know, what are you doing? You're doing Benang? Assuming this is that same league where he's starting Brise, you're putting in Menonga,

you're putting in Fanon if Lamb wasn't out there? It was full PPR. If it's half PBR, I'd do Monongue. It's full PPR. I'd probably do Fanon. Okay. There you go. Easy stuff.

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slash my playbook or the fantasy pros app not just for this year but already get the prepping going for next year all right more of you with catalyst catalyst is up what's up hey guys how are you doing good man how you doing doing solid um so i have two dynasty teams that made playoffs but i'm more concerned about the first one so uh for context i'm sending like the roster just for my optimum lineup like these are literally the best players that i can have right now on rostered Because I guess because I started last year and I didn't really understand how to build a roster in Dynasty, which kind of led me to what I have now. I just barely got into playoffs and mainly had to compete hard just to get that spot. So I gave my opponent's first round pick for the sixth spot. So I guess with the roster I have, I don't think I could get very far. So should I just like pack it in and just like get the seventh position spot or try my luck and just like go all the way? because for further context,

on the third highest score, third lowest scoring dynasty team on a super flex 12th team. So are you trying to say like you've made the playoffs and you're like, hey, I made the playoffs, but this isn't going to work. So should I just bomb the playoffs to get a higher draft pick?

Yeah. I mean, I just don't know if it's to like get that value spot at seven or just try my luck and just keep going. Yeah. But I mean, but like hold on real quick. wouldn't the next pick be six?

Like are you like what's the change? Like what's the it let's say are you saying if I just lose right now I'm getting the seventh pick or if I do good I have the final pick or the eighth pick and ninth like I know this maybe is like super logical. I'm just trying to wrap my head around it because I guess my point is is like yeah your roster's not like dominating for reference for people here. He's got Herbert Shador, Genty Samson. Running backs are really poor.

Olave worthy, Mechie, Pitts, Waddle, Loveland. You know, that's a competitive team. I get your point of not, of not feeling like it's going to go, but like what is packing it in look like, like not putting out a competitive roster to maybe move up a spot?

Like, because I'm going for it. My whole point of this is like, I'm going to try my best. If I made the playoffs, I'm not going to try to pack anything in, but I understand the logic. So is it literally just like a spot or two? Like if you were to make the next round

and losing the next round, you gave up the, seventh pick for the ninth pick. Does that sound like right? What it is, I already have the six spots. So if I lose right now, I also have seven. So I have one, six and seven in the first round next year. Okay.

And then if you move on, yeah, I'm, I'm trying to play. Like, I don't, I don't mess around with that type of stuff. Maybe a miracle can happen. Maybe you can screw on with your roster. Hell, put in Shador over Herbert this week to go for it. Going up against the Bears, maybe he slings the ball. again like that. Maybe Gentie gets the ball a little bit. Erickson just talked about maybe Samson, Herbert Stack there. I mean, crazy stuff can happen, but it's just like, I want to win. And like,

I'm going to try to win. And I definitely wouldn't want to be accused in my league of just like tanking when you already have the six pick. Like it's all that extra pick is going to do is it's like what, extra equity or something like that. I don't know. Maybe I'm making more about it than it needs to be. But like I'm just, I'm just trying to win. I'm not trying to tank, especially when I'm in the playoffs. Erickson, tell me if I'm crazy. Tell me if you're on that, what do you got? I don't think you're crazy. I think that anything can happen.

That's what we always talk about with the playoffs. I know I was flexing about my number one seed to team. Basically, every other team I played this year is the sixth seed. And every other league that I'm in, I basically like snuck in. And my team definitely isn't the best. But weird stuff happens in the fantasy playoffs. It takes one injury to a team that you're feeling. facing and that can help bottom them out and give you a chance to win.

So I would go for it here. Again, we play to win the game, to win a championship. And anytime you make the playoffs, you have a one in eight chance, one and six chance. So I would take advantage of that. So I wouldn't be too hung up on, oh, the future, the draft picks. I think that that's a conversation you have like a month ago where you're, okay, this team is done, I'm cooked. But if you stuck into the playoffs, I think it's worth going for it.

You never know what's going to happen. Yeah, I also like don't, I just don't like the idea of making the playoffs and being like, cool, I'm in a tank now. Like, to your point. Integrity of it is a little like suss with that. Yeah, it's a little sussing. An easy win to the other team that's in the playoffs as well. And that can kind of come off as like, again, you want to, you install competitive integrity in your league. Because that's what creates the best leagues is people are going all out, doing the best they can, trying to win at every single inch, get every single edge.

So go forward. And look at it like this. If you make the next round, it's because a few of those players went off and you just created more fantasy equity to those players. Maybe Shador goes off. And all of a sudden, you got two really good quarterbacks

you can trade in Dynasty or Genty surprises everybody. I say, you roll it, baby. You roll that out. Oh, can't wait to have them back on the show next week. Yeah, tell us how it goes. Now that I'm going to win, let's go. Yeah, let's win this.

Let's have Shador go off. Marcus, Marcus is up. Marcus, sup. Marcus is up. Hey, you hear me? Yeah, we got you, man. Yes, sir. Hey, guys.

Thanks for having me. I just have two questions. So, I'm seeing exciting week, and I wanted to know who might have a better playoff schedule, Dallas Goddard, Barner. And then my second question would be, has a better play schedule, Holmes, or Matthew Stafford. Okay, so I think we got those a little rough to get through. I think it was like Goddard or Barner and the schedule. I don't care about the schedule. That means nothing to me.

I want Dallas Goddard in that, even though I kind of like Barner. And then, Erickson, you could tell me different. I kind of don't think I care about the playoff schedule with Mahomes versus Stafford. Stafford is an absolute touchdown machine. Their offense has been a machine. So regardless of what the schedule looks like, It's just Goddard and Stafford for me compared to those names. But it's a much easier, a much tougher discussion about the Mahomes and Stafford thing than it is like A.J. Barner versus Goddard.

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Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential type. title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys.

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Now a redacted amount of years later, we're still joined at the hip, just a little bit bigger hips. wider. This is a podcast we're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey with all the snacks and drink. Sidebar. Why did you get

hard seltzer instead of beer? Oh, they had a bogo. Well, then you got it. Do you want a white claw or something here? Just take it. What are y'all doing? Microphones? Are you making a wrap album? I would. Come on. Could you believe? I would buy it. Cuts through the defense like a

hot knife through sponge cake. That sounds delicious. Oh, you're lucky. I'm not drug addict. You're lucky I'm not an alcoholic. You are. I'm lucky I'm not a killer. I love this team and I'm really trying to be a figure in their lives that they can rely on. Oh. Oh. Listen to soccer moms on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Well, what I would recommend is go check out the strength of schedule tool. It's still live on fantasy pros and it breaks down every single strength of schedule. So just using that and I can read off the matchups too just to go through

really quickly. Mahomes has the Chargers and Broncos left. Those are both home games. Those matchups are both bad. But then he plays the Titans in week 16. So if you're also looking matchups wise, Mahomes has one really good matchup left. The other two aren't super great given the offensive line injuries, not exactly. And like filling us with a ton of confidence. Whereas the Rams, I'm looking at them right now. So they have at Seattle, at Atlanta, and then Detroit this week. So Matthew Stafford, I would say, I mean, at Seattle is probably like the toughest matchup. But still a divisional game. We saw him play Seattle earlier this year.

Wasn't great. I think it's actually his worst game of the season, 13.2 fantasy points. So, I mean, if you had both guys, it'd actually be the perfect runout. It seems like he does. I think he does. That's my assumption. So then you could stream it out if you want to stream it. Yeah.

So that's perfect. You start Stafford week 15, week 17, and you start Mahomes in week 60. So, like, that's basically the perfect way to do it. So maybe you're thinking like, do I drop somebody? I pick up like a defense or like, no, like keep both guys and play the matchups for tight end. It was A.J. Barner and Dallas Goddard. So Dallas Goddard, again, I agree with you Welsh where like he's the guy that I would want.

His rest of the season schedule is pretty strong. Raiders, commanders would say week 17 at Bills, that's terrible. Bills have just been deleting tight ends week in and week out. So Goddard might not be usable that week. in the next two weeks, I think that he's fine. AJ Barnum, we always talk about. He has that like Tush-Bush equity where they use him with some red zone equity or some touchdown upside.

And he has the Colts. Colts, Rams, and Panthers. So yeah, Panthers is a great spot. Yeah. And I bet if this is like a, if this is like a cut situation, I bet you could probably comfortably cut A.J. Barner and not have to worry about the rest. And pick him up.

Exactly. So that good breakdown. Play Goddard this week, next week, cut him. let someone else play them against the bills if they, if they be my guest. How fun. And then pick up Barner. Yeah.

Trojan horse, baby. Rock sauce is up. Rocksaw. Let's go. Hey guys. First time, long time. Appreciate it. I'm in a tough spot playing for the Sacco.

If you know that reference. And so my question is I've got Chris Rodriguez, but he popped up on the injury report. And so I'm trying to figure out what to do with him. I do have Bill Kroski Merritt. and I also have Kenneth Gainwell. So trying to figure out how to navigate that situation. All right.

So I don't, I mean, okay, no, I was about to be dismissive. If Chris Rodriguez is out, that's even better for Bill. And that actually probably makes Bill the play. The worst case scenario is Rodriguez is kind of banged up. But it's actually not even the worst because I think it just clearly pushes me to Kenny Gainwell. Like Kenny Gainwell has some touchdown equity, some red zone equity, using the passing game. like the usage is great. If they're selling us that Chris Rodriguez is dicey,

I don't know if I, because I've already mentioned this before. It's like you're one outcome with Chris Rodriguez. He doesn't catch the ball. He doesn't get volume. It's touchdown. So if he's already dicey, then it's like him and Bill are both dicey to me.

I would push to gain well. If they just say Chris Rodriguez is all good and no worry about that. That was a scare. Chris Rodriguez. And if Rodriguez is out, Bill. So I literally painted a scenario for all three and how I would use all three. Nothing would make me, oh, there's a lot of things that would make me happier.

But to see Bill have a redemption towards the end of the season, that'd be kind of nice. After he flash really early on, just totally faded into oblivion. It's just a very weird rookie year for him. What do you think that's about, man? When you see a guy just kind of like bomb, like, like, I should say it in a different way, ball out. When it balls out, he gets like, like, he gets like. like, you know, usage, like heavy usage.

He's kind of like a little like stud and all the. And then the team is just like, that was cool. Let's do the exact opposite now. Like what do you think is behind that? I do think that they're, maybe this is more just like commanders thing in general. This team has lost eight games in a row, nine games in a row. This has not been the commander's year. So their quarterback hasn't been healthy.

He's been out of the lineup. And they really haven't leaned on a lot of their young players. players for evaluation. What's the point of continuing to get Debo Samuel out there and getting him targets? Like, why? Like, why don't we evaluate some of these young receivers or young tight ends? Now, so I don't only know what they're doing offensively. Again, they're not going to make the playoffs, the lost season for them.

So I think maybe that has something to do with it where they're just like, hey, we just want a guy that knows his assignment, isn't going to fumble the ball. That's what I like Chris Rodriguez. But, yeah. Yeah. No, maybe he can finish high on high note. Maybe. I got to ask you this. I just thought of this instant. Remember, because thinking of the commanders, Jane Daniels not going to play this week. Is there any part of you? Remember when the injury happened and we're like, okay, well, his arm bent the wrong way? Like, I was very adamant. He's not going to come back. Do you remember you having this hesitation of like cutting him? And you're like, what if he comes back for the fantasy playoffs and screws me? And we're like, don't worry about that. And then he comes back. But then this scenario happens where he's a landmine last week. He screwed every. buddy, like, do you think about that and like how happy you are regardless of him coming back that

you just got out from under like quickly and didn't have to experience starting him last week, which could have screwed you and then he doesn't play this week anyways? You probably haven't. I hadn't until this moment. Well, Welsh, I hate to break it to you, but, uh, started Jane Daniels in that league. Did you pick? You never dropped him? No, I dropped him and picked him back home. Oh my God. Never mind. Look line and sinker. You fell for you. You had the phone. You're like, oh my God, he's coming back. Welsh and Pat, they were so wrong and stupid. Got to do it.

And then, I mean, I actually started him in Super Flex League, and I think it actually cost me the final playoff spot. And as I was watching, like, the box score, I'm thinking, oh, he must have got hurt, like, really early in the game. I mean, the guy played like the first half. I just didn't do anything, right? So it wasn't even like, oh, it was all of the injury, wasn't playing super well beforehand.

I know they failed to convert on a fourth down in the red zone. Maybe could he sort of touchdown. And he was kind of running a lot. And it's obviously, And then he gets hurt on the interception, right? Like, that's the thing that it's like, it wasn't a design run. It wasn't a sack. It was trying to make a play for his team because he's a, you know,

wants to win. It's a competitor. And of course he gets banged up. So it's unfortunate for the whole commander season this year. But luckily, it didn't cost me. Still made the playoffs in that league, 7 and 7. So as the sixth seed, 100% mid. But hopefully we can go on a run.

I have a new quarterback this week, Trevor Lawrence. See how it goes. mid for the win TCB what's up what's up what's up hey guys I have two questions

first at QB do I start May or Burrow if it matters my opponent has Jamar Chase that's interesting I mean I have May higher but I sure don't hate

Burrow but yeah I think I stick with May yeah because like Jamar Chase when he's sees the Ravens, this is a matchup that he just dominates. So he's going to have a big game, which means borough is going to have a big game, and that's not going to necessarily help you.

And to your point, Welsh, straight up. If there's no other factors at play, I'd rather have Drake May. Yeah, I mean, it's also probably not going to hurt you if he goes and you kind of take away from it. But like, I don't know, it feels like a shootout type of situation. Weather, you could look at, isn't there a weather situation? What's the weather situation going on in the New England? No England game. Yeah.

Just like maybe like a little bit of snow. That's it. No wind. It doesn't look like that we're getting any rain this week, wind this week. It's just cold in a couple places where it's supposed to be cold in December and then some flurry stuff. But you saw Buffalo playing snow last week and they were fine.

Yeah. Yeah. It's seven degree or seven mile per hour, mile per hour winds just under 30 degrees. Chance of snow 11%. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, it really is no.

I'm looking at it. The only one, it looks like the Seahawks. There's definite rain. There's not a lot of wind that's attached to it, so it probably doesn't matter. All right, TCB, what else you got? All right. So my second question is for my flex spot. I feel like I have a lot of options, so I'm really struggling with what to do.

I guess the obvious choice for me would be T. Higgins, if he's healthy. He did look good running up the hill today, so fingers crossed. But assuming he's out, options would be Devon, Neal, Hampton, B.T.J., Mike Evans tonight. um so i don't know if any of those options jump out to y'all definitely um yeah i mean camere's still not looking like he's he's not coming back like he's he's dnp i know neil popped up on the injury board with adam an injury i think that he was either limited or did not practice on wednesday but this was the one matchup i don't remember how long ago was alvin camer had over a hundred yards from scrimmage against the panthers earlier this season so we've seen the saints offense move the ball on

this panthers defense before. Neil was good last week. He sees all the snaps in this offense. So he has a better role than guys like Hampton or someone like Brian Thomas Jr. Who's just seeing a lot of downfield targets, which can be hit or miss. So Neil, I think, has a pretty good combination of a floor and ceiling that in a good matchup. I think that's the direction I would go in.

I like it. Where are we at here? Let's do. Let's go to Sammy, premium member on the Fantasy Bros. Discord. What's up Sammy or Sam? Sam, Sam I am. Hey, thanks so much, guys. So I've got two questions for you. First is quarterback standard league, if that's going to matter here. I've got Jordan Love and Marcus Mariotta, but I could pick up Shadur. I need upside this week.

Oh, Erickson. I live in a little bit of a Shador bubble right now. If you want to play upside, like I do not hate Shador. I just want to point out love is got Denver and Mariotta's got the Giants. And Marriota is actually the highest ranked at 13. And he had that big explosive passing game. But if you are thinking in a world of upside, who are you going with out of those three? Mariotta. Easy.

Easy. I think ECR is fought on upside. Mariotta was QB3. I know. Against the Broncos. That's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's some upside he was QB nine against the dolphins QB 13 against the Lions I mean he's been pretty like locked in load his only bad games were at the Chiefs where he was QB 19 that's a tough matchup but against the

falcons QB 17 against the Raiders he was QB 6 so I mean the Giants defense is not any good he runs yeah I like Marcus Marriota I think that he has just as much upside and a much higher floor than Trader Sanders does okay let's do it um and what was question number two Awesome. Thank you. A question two is I've got to start somebody at wide receiver. I can go Higgins, Ladd, or, and I know Thursday, which is a no-go, but Mike Evans is my third option. I just don't think Higgins is, and thank you, Sam, I am. Yeah, I don't think Higgins is playing. So I think this is a lad. Lad or Mike Evans, I would play Lad. Yeah, I don't go and play Ladd, too. Yeah. I mean, yeah, the Thursday thing is dicey on this show because comes out after.

I will just say this, regardless of what the result was. I just kind of live in a world of like, let's just see what this week is going to look like, especially when you have good options. You know what I mean? Because they're talking about limited snaps. There's touchdown.

There was touchdown equity and stuff, but snaps, and you're welcome. Mako. What's up, Maco? Mako. Hello, can you hear me?

We got you. Yeah, just two quick questions. Running back, Woody Marks or RJ Harvey Harvey Harvey. I like this question because Woody has got a really good matchup and Harvey I don't really think has a great matchup. On ECR Erickson, Woody Marks is now higher than Harvey. I think Woody was 20. Yeah, I just seemed up by one spot. Yeah, I think when we did the rank show, Woody might have been around 20.

Woody is now 17. Harvey is 18. What do you think, Erickson? You got to give it to Woody. And I didn't mention this on the show. I know it fits kind of pour some cold water on Woody. as a player. I'm also not like the highest on what he is a player. I don't know if he's actually good. But it's really hard to evaluate running backs in the Texans offense. But you can't argue what type of usage he's saying. He had how many carries last week? 28, 26 carries. Nick Chubb is injured and

Arizona Cardinals defense is buns. And it's over for them. They can't stop. They can't stop anything, dude. Their team is in the dumpster. They can't stop the run. They're going to give up and Woody Marks is just going to smash. This dude said buns. He's like Cardinals are cheeks, man. That's crazy. All right. What was question number two?

Then the follow question is the flex then. I have McLaren. And then I can also play Harvey. I guess it's a really interesting question because this actually connects to Sam's question. If we're like, hey, we've

freaking love Mariotta and there's the upside there. Terry McLaren is likely the highest recipient of that fantasy upside outside of the rushing equity that Marietta has. What do you think here? Because I kind of think this might be McLaren versus the Giants over RJ Harvey on the Packers. But what do you think? Yeah. Where does ECR have McLaren versus Tetaroa?

Okay. That's got to be pretty close. Let's see. Yeah, it's pretty close. Tederoa is at 13, and McLaren is at 16 on the list. You know, that one's thinking upside, man. The last time I... The last time I said McMillan does not have upsides

when he had that nuclear game against the Falcons. It scrolled like 35 points. I'm ridiculous. But at their core, we know the Panthers would do everything in their power to run the ball 50 times. We know that's what they would like to do. And that does hurt T-MAC on his ceiling perspective. Commanders also like to run the football.

Did I, am I crazy? I didn't hear Tedero-McMillan. Did I just delete that from my brain? I heard him say Terry McLoran or RJ Harvey. I thought he said Timmerick-Millan in there as well. Confirm. Oh, Ted is well. Okay, like I said, that could have been my brain.

It was my brain. Oh, Tedero-McMillan. So I didn't mean to make you more confused. Yeah, no, I'm just going to go with the highest wide receiver, Tetero and Macmillan. I thought it was Harvey versus McLaren. I'm not working on all cylinders. I'm not firing off on all cylinders today.

So, T-MAC. So are both receivers ahead of Harvey? Are we- What do I got to do? I'm looking positional. I'm not looking. Let me look at Flex here for a second. You know, actually, what did T-Mack do the first time he faced the Saints?

Harvey is at, no, Harvey is. is higher because RV 18 comes in at 27 on the overall flex ranks Tederoa comes in at 36 and McClorn goes at 40 I got to tell you I am both wide receivers over Harvey and a flex though that me

dude I think see the see he's already faced the Saints this year and he was wide receiver 33 so maybe this isn't really the ceiling spot for him I feel like the Saints defense has kind of been low key decent this year

relative to being a team that has two or three wins. I don't remember exactly what their record is, but I don't think their defense is just like so, so terrible. Harvey, we already kind of talked about overall, like harder matchup. He probably has the highest floor.

But dude, I think Terry, against the Giants, they give up a lot of long passes. It's also two teams that are kind of in like, what, like, whatever mode,

right? Like, Mariotta, like, well, I'm just gonna, like, Chuck it.

And Mariotta, and Mariotta did chuck it. hell out to McLaren and McClorin first came back. Yeah, McLaren had a monster game against the Broncos of all teams. And he probably would have had a better game last week had Jane Daniels not gotten hurt and it kind of turned into a blow. He had a bunch of targets in the first half of that game. And I guess what could kind of work in McLaren's favorite?

I heard this on another show. So shout out to I think it was the Establish the Run show. But they were talking about how McLaren has missed so much time this year that he's probably fresher than a lot of the other players because he's like, I have been playing. happen to see this. So like everyone else is like, I'm ready to pack it in. Terry McLaren's like, I got paid. I need to play and put up numbers because like what else am I out here for? So maybe McClorn really is the ceiling. I'm probably going to move about my rankings. So I think you've convinced me as well. Well,

hopefully we've convinced the audience that McLaren might be a smash. Well, Marco, he said he's going with McLaren. And I will be honest with I wasn't thinking in high upside when we were first doing this. I just like McLaren more than Harvey. And I'll blanketly say, Tetaroa, but if you are going full upside, then I think McLaren does go over Tetaroa. Regardless if Theteroa's struggles in that first one, Panthers are trying to be a playoff

team. I think I think he's going to get his set of targets. I don't think anything's going to change that, but like McLaren against the Giants can absolutely feast. So that is the upside play over any safety net. And I think McLaren has a defense safety net. Also, too, with no Zach

Ertz. Maybe that's a big Okay, no Zach Hertz, no Chris Rodriguez potentially. Where do the touchdowns go? Right? Like those are the two guys that you see the most action in the red zone. Does that now shift towards? I mean, it's not going to Debo. You know, Debo is just catching screen passes at this point.

So Terry is the guy with the wheels, with the burners. He's fresh. And maybe against this Giants defense that's just been like, I mean, especially against the deep ball. They've been terrible. So, yeah, maybe it is McCloran. Let's go. Look out a prop show. I'm going to probably have some Terry on the prop show.

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What's up, Red Beard? Hey, y'all. How are y'all doing today? Doing good. Not speaking well, but. doing good. What's up? It's all good. I may be overthinking this. Would you play Tetaroa this week or Trevion over Kyrin, Barkley, or Jacobs? One of them's in the play. So wait a minute.

Probably. Wait a minute. The first question was, would you start who? Tet or Trayvon Henderson over Kairn, Barkley, or Jacob. Jacobs. Gotcha. No. Okay. No, I would not. Erickson, would you?

I couldn't wrap my head around how that question was phrased, but it's, are Teteroa or Trevionn a better play to you than like Sequin Barclay or Josh Jacobs? Josh Jacobs is the one that keeps kind of getting floated around with some people that maybe is a question, but I don't trust Trayvion. And we just talked about having more upside with McLaren over Tetaroa says this is, this is nothing to me, but maybe you feel different, Erickson. I can't. convince you about Trevion over Kyron.

Both guys are committee backs now. Yeah. Fair point. And the receiving side, but even in the committee side of Kyron, Kyran eats every single week. Does he eat against the Lions, who are a good run defense? I do think he eats against the line.

You can start Trevi. Do you think there's more upside? Do you think that Remandre doesn't take away from Travian in that? It's a fun matchup. Yeah, I guess I think I like the matchup more. for the Patriots running backs versus the Rams running backs, who you just have to hope that is it's, Kyron's on the field when they have a drive that gets into the red zone.

Because Kyron doesn't catch a lot of passes. I get that the total is really high, but one of my best bets this week is actually the under in that game, under 55 and a half points. I don't think it's actually going to be as high score. And we've seen the Rams and Lions go head to head with Jared Gopher, Sean McVeigh. Every game is projected to go over 50 points. Spoiler, none of them have gone over 50 points.

So if it's a little bit of it, but less scoring. I think that the upside play is still Henderson. So much juice, so explosive. We've seen this Bill's defense just get absolutely gashed by running backs at certain times throughout the year. They're playing on the road. They don't play nearly as well on the road as they do at home.

So given that both guys are in timeshairs, which I think is pretty well known at this point with Kyron. He's just, they're switching off drives with him and Blake Corum. The line's not an easy team to run the football on. So I'm going to go Henderson. All right, there you go. You got Henderson. So that answers that red beard.

All right, Mims. In our final stretch, what's up? Mims, premium Discord. There it is. Took me a second. It's all good, dude. Afternoon, gentlemen, thanks for all you do. I have two quick questions.

I have one lineup in playoffs where it is Zach Charbonnet or Tony Pollard for the final flex spot. I love that. We both smiled and smirked because of the R. episode conversation we were having about Tony Pollard that I think I had a little bit convincing on Erickson not that like Tony Pollard is super fun and stuff but it's just like it's a poorish 49ers defense 49ers don't take and control big leads and they might lean into Pollard after having that big carry load so I think that's Pollard for me what do you think Erickson yeah I think he has a higher touch projection

than Charbonnet look Charbonnet's touchdown or bust at this point We kind of know that with him. However, this game script sets up really, really well. For Zach Charbonnet and it sucks because I see him rank so low in ECR. And I'm just thinking, is he really going to be RB 40 if he scores a touchdown? Because five straight home games, Zach Charbonnet has scored a touchdown. So I get that, but I still think the ceiling play is Tony Pollard from a touch projection. And I do think they're going to try to give him more opportunities after its breakout game.

last week or career game last week. Was that the only question or did you have another? I have a second one. And I'm going to give you this context just because I think you guys will maybe find it interesting. So I'm in this league where the bottom four teams play in a playoff playoff bracket. And whoever wins amongst the worst four teams gets the first overall pick. So I am now in a three-week sprint to the finish to get the first overall pick. my wide receivers in this dynasty league are all over the place so it's a pick three scenario

it's Xavier worthy b tj Quentin Johnson florinois we've talked about Marvin Harrison probably out but you know where he fit in this piercel mecci and then Parker Washington pick three that's a lot of dudes I'm a psychopath and I kind of think this is a Ricky Pierceaw I want to slide him in type of thing I don't think you have any high ceiling wide receivers right now um florno I would 100% play if cd lamb is out I do not think he's gonna be out so what the hell was it who did he he I know you had BTJ he right Ryan Thomas would be the other the highest I pierceal I would agree with you there with him um perger Washington I don't know if he's gonna play I feel like there was one other because I think we're saying worthy Brian Thomas and he said Marvin harrisal and Jr. He's not going to be out.

Yeah. Okay, I thought there was another one, but those would be the three. I think Pierce saw coming off the by. Erickson, you also kind of implanted this in the wide receiver episode. Like,

they got to get him involved in this would be the time. Those would be the three I'd put out there. But if C.D. Lamb were out. I mean, Florino is the number one of all of those. The other, okay, he put the names in the chat.

And of course, it's funny, the name that we forgot was Quinn Johnson. Yes, no, I was saying that I knew there was like another one that was in there. He's not the right. He's not the pick.

I'd say to him. I think we stuck with that's where we're going to go. So all right. Let's get a few more before we get out of here. Prezy, prezy with the Seth Wolcock Cowboy, Avi holding up here. Hey, what's up guys? Hey, so thanks again for the help last week. You really saved me.

I was able to build a 35 point lead in that two-week first round of playoffs. Awesome. So you guys saved my week there. I have another league that I have a question in, and I'm debating now. I've got Jemir Gibbs at Running Back. My other options currently are Searod, Corum, Breece Hall, or Chuba Hubbard. Obviously, I have a flex position. I've got Devin Singletary sitting in there as well.

Would you guys change anything about that? Okay, you got to start Breese, unfortunately, on that. I love me some quorum, but boy, Erickson, the pro-devin Singletary stuff is floating out there. It's probably got to be RB2 Breece with Singletary as the flex, right? Yeah, that's fine. All those other running backs are kind of like, they're in their own separate tier, which is why I can't put them ahead of Breece because Breece still has a touch floor. although this was another question we had earlier

I was kind of like on the fence about it dude I think I think it's been on guy over bruce hall if you're just like the last four games I mean their touches are like basically identical like even though brisole sees all the work in the jet's backfield there's not a lot of touches to go around because they don't play well on offense

and Kyle Minangai yeah he splits touches with d'andre swift but because the bears are so run centric he eats despite splitting carries And we know he has the red zone role for the most part in that offense. So we just saw Tony Pollar finishes what the RB3 on the week against the Browns. I think my Nongas is way more upside than Bruce all of those this week. And I think like, I'm like, I'm like, I just like, I think you got to start Mononga this week.

And it's like, just like, just like think about it. He is so physical. It's cold in December at Soldier Field. Are they going to feed Dijandre Swift? No, they're going to feed Menongai. I love seeing your brain work in real time. If there's ever a plug to being in here in the Discord, we also, Ericson and I turn on video,

which I don't think a ton do. We always have video on. And watching your brain work in real time on that, it's phenomenal. All I want from you, though, is I want to see Menongai above Breeze Hall in your ranks. He's up there. And he's going to be on the betting pro show this week,

and Kyle Monongue. All right. We're giving our teasers, Terry McLaren, Kyle Monongai, we got it. Where are we out here? Let's do a little lightning round. We started a tiny bit late. we'll go another five.

Let's get lighting around for our last few people are in here. Great job. Everybody, great questions. I feel like we're setting a record by answered questions as well. Madi, what's up? Yeah, so as resident Bears fan, but on guy is that guy. That's all you.

So, yeah, two real super quick. I have Christian Watson and my flex. My only other options are quorum, which I don't feel great against Detroit. And then Slayton or... potentially floor nought but i think cd's going to play are any of those guys options or do i just kind of like stick with watson and just hope he overcomes certain i think slayton's pretty interesting against just a horrifically bad secondary but watson is like he he is the guy like

when they're going to get in the red zone they're looking at him they're not looking at dobs anymore if he makes a big play would he continuously i'm going watson there over speculative on slayton erics you agree? Yeah. He's just, he's playing so well. And I think that we as the rankers have done a good job of considering the matchup for him and moving him down. But he's still in starting territory, right?

Even despite the matchup against Denver, look, Petra Sir Tan is really, really good. But how long ago, Terry McLaren, right? A couple weeks ago, he had an awesome game against the Denver Broncos. And I don't think that the way the Packers use Watson, I don't know if they're going to put Sir Tan and he's going to cover him like the entire game. I don't know if we're going to see. that necessarily. You're going to see him maybe cover Dobbs a little bit. Watson, you know, can get there on one big play. He has Jordan Love as his quarterback. Love has been playing really,

really well. So again, I'm not trying to pump up Watson. I do think that he's probably in for some regression based on what his recent production has been. But for me to bench him for like Dary Slayton, who could get 12 targets and still bust? Like I want to play the guy that is just playing really, really well, stay in the flames. Maybe he bails you out with the touchdown. So I still think Christian Watson is the guy. Agreed. Okay. And then this is kind of a disgusting question, but Seahawks or Texans?

I was going to go Texans, but I don't know what Indianapolis is doing at QB. We'll all find that together. I think people, I'm embarrassed for the riches. You sick people that you have the Texans and Seahawks defenses, like, wow, I'm like out here trotting the bucks, trying to hope that they like can sack kirk cousins and do you have an opinion on which i mean we've seen the seahawks win like or put up 30 before or the texans do for their 30 burger against jacobby brouset like i don't know like what do you think Houston's a better defense but man like what that philipers are going to play it's safe they're going to run the ball

i think i got to go i think i got to go see hawks i think i guess to your point the card don't play it safe with Jacoby he's back there dropping back six sets drops seven step drops 50 pass attempts in that game that's like sacks interceptions fumbles whereas like philper river's going to hold the ball for like a nanosec second and then immediately check it down to the next hostess receiver which if he's more conservative with the football so i actually like that i've now i'm afraid i told people to start the seahawks defense over the texans i'm taking that back full on texans here welsh thank you for that all right uh currency alchemist What's up?

Hey, thanks for having me up. Two quick questions. I'm an underdog, so I need to shoot for upside. First question is, they're kind of ranked close together. So should I stick with Aaron Jones for my RB2, or should I pivot to game well? Yeah, Jones. Definitely Jones on that one. It's a good question.

Warren might be a little bit more in here. If there was more concern on injury, maybe I might pivot, but I'll go Aaron Jones. What was question number two? trying to lock down this wide receiver option i have rachie rice which i know i'm going to play him i need to fill another wide receiver slot in a flex between jacobi meyers uh jennings devante smith and lord have mercy justin jefferson oh there it is there's the jefferson question Oh, man, that was, we got to end on that one. I don't think we have more questions, but that was an epic way to end.

The show potentially, I'm playing Jefferson. They got to do two. It's probably Jefferson and Myers, right? Yeah, where's Myers versus, Myers versus Jennings got to be pretty. I'm not that close, actually. Myers is, right. Yeah, I would say Myers is ahead. I mean, it's still kind of close.

19 versus Juan Jennings at 23. He moved up the spot, but it's just still, Jacoby Myers for me. I think it's my I think we're going to be right about this Peersall thing. I think we're going to see the targets flatline a little bit. I think right now actually, again, you don't have to start

Pierce all this week. He's probably too risky to start, but if he's on your waivers, pick him up and like stash him because if he does come out and see a bunch of targets, 49 or a bunch of great matchups rest of the way. So maybe he can get rolling here a little bit. Yeah, and I straight up like if you listen to the

wide receiver show, you've heard and Monday show where me and Bogman got into it. Like, I'm negative on Justin Jefferson, but I can't deny that we're in a like, close your eyes, plug your nose and just dive in. That was like, I'm not saying that there aren't scenarios where you can justify getting out from Jefferson. And maybe, you know,

he kind of had some of those guys when you have like Jennings and Devontas Smith and stuff like that. But I'm pissed off that you had one of the best. matchups you could possibly have you look at the box score you look at the score 31 to nothing and you're like oh hell yeah here goes Justin Jefferson let's look at the box score and two catches for 11 yards like how so now we're just back in the same thing you have a test case where he had an incredible matchup and he stunk and you're going into another incredible matchup and he could stink again but like he's the most upside of all those guys like it's not even close it's not even remotely

close. So you do, and the matchup alone is the thing that's driving him up. If he was going up against like Houston, I don't think he'd be top 20 after that matchup. I think he'd be out. I think he would be like where Joanne Jennings is right now. So even as negative as I am, I am starting him in a spot. I got to just plug my nose and deal with it like we all do. So, you know, it stinks. Thanks, Justin Jefferson is there. All right. That is going to do it for this portion. We'll see if we can get a couple of questions offline here because we'd like to take care of our people. And hopefully you guys want to join us in the future fantasy pros.com slash chat, get in the Discord, be a part of the community, be a character on the show, your chance to not just like listen to the podcast,

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