The Herd with Colin Cowherd - FantasyPros - The Extra Point: Rest-Of-Season Evaluations, Tough Weekend Decisions, and Chat Q&A (Ep. 1813)

Episode Date: November 2, 2025

Join Chris Welsh and Andrew Erickson as they tackle your questions LIVE on Discord every Thursday at 2 PM EST at fantasypros.com/chat. Timestamps: (May be off due to ads) Intro - 0:00:00 FantasyP...ros Discord - 0:03:54 Trading For Josh Jacobs in Dynasty - 0:05:39 Drake London’s Outlook - 0:06:24 Trading for Chase Brown - 0:09:13 Bolstering RB Depth - 0:13:11 Weekend Sit/Start Flex Decisions - 0:16:58 FantasyPros My Playbook - 0:20:44 Ricky Pearsall’s Outlook - 0:21:40 Improving a 3-5 Team - 0:26:20 Tough Weekend Start/Sit Decisions - 0:31:55 FantasyPros on Twitch - 0:34:17 Tough Start/Sit and Trade Decisions in Dynasty - 0:35:26 Adding Rachaad White - 0:38:34 Prioritization of TEs - 0:45:32 Lightning Round Chat Q&A - 0:49:36 Outro - 0:58:51 Helpful Links: My Playbook - Sync your league instantly to My Playbook to get custom advice on how to manage your team throughout the season. See your league’s top available players, power rankings, and more for free! Check the “Are They Playing” tool each week to get the latest game-day availability odds for all injured players. If you’re premium – you unlock all kinds of helpful waiver, trade, lineup and league analysis tools. You can even auto-start your team’s optimal lineup each week with Auto-Pilot. Sync your league and dominate every week of the season with My Playbook at fantasypros.com/myplaybook or on the FantasyPros App Follow us on Twitch - The team here at FantasyPros is taking questions all week, every week on Twitch. Follow us on Twitch at twitch.tv/fantasypros and never miss a stream! Discord – Join our FantasyPros Discord Community! Chat with other fans and get access to exclusive AMAs that wind up on our podcast feed. Come get your questions answered and BE ON THE SHOW at fantasypros.com/chat Leave a Review – If you enjoy our show and find our insight to be valuable, we’d love to hear from you! Your reviews fuel our passion and help us tailor content specifically for YOU. Head to Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever else you get your podcasts and leave an honest review. Let’s make this show the ultimate destination for fantasy football enthusiasts like us. Thank you for watching and for showing your support – https://fantasypros.com/review/ BettingPros Podcast – For advice on the best picks and props across both the NFL and college football each and every week, check out the BettingPros Podcast at bettingpros.com/podcast, our BettingPros YouTube channel at youtube.com/bettingpros, or wherever you listen to podcasts.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:30 you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. What's up, friends, and welcome in to Fantasy Pros, the Fantasy Football Podcast. This is the extra point. I'm Chris Welsh. We get Andrew Erickson in the house where we are live on the Fantasy Pros Discord every single week talking to you guys and answering your questions. This is the People Show because you guys produce the show. We are just the conduits. You guys are the sheet music and we are the instrument. That is all that we are here for to answer your questions, whether it's week nine or beyond. We're here for you talking about everything except Thursday night football and all the awesome or not awesome that it was. Andrew Erickson,
Starting point is 00:01:10 happy Halloween in front of you. We did talk about this off air, but we would like you to share because I think this is a good take because I did not look at the comments, nor will I look at the comments of the rank show when I talked about pineapple pizza and or candy corn. I don't have the stomach to deal with that negativity. I asked you, what is your go-eastern? What is your go-jointed? to Halloween candy. I think this is going to get you in the good graces of everybody. Yeah. My go-to Halloween candy is Reese's. I think it's the chalk pick. Probably the, the, no one. If you did a bracket, it's probably the number one seed. That's usually what you see. And, you know, I just don't have a contrarian pick when it comes to a candy. I just, I think
Starting point is 00:01:48 Reese's is good. I was telling you before we started recording, my sister is allergic to peanuts. So growing up, I had to throw out basically like 67% of my Halloween candy because it always had peanuts in it because my sister was high allergic. So now I'm making up for lost time. And I'm going above and beyond to find peanuts in my candy, peanut butter and chocolate and all the good stuff that I never really could have that much of as a kid. Yeah. And I guess apologies because this is kind of like chalky, very radio like, oh, everybody, what's your favorite candy? Halloween. We were doing this here.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Let me invert it real quick. Because it's just top of mind. What's the worst thing you've ever got trick or treating? It could be you or you like you were with like, you know, nieces or nephews or whatever. Because I have an answer. I have a real answer. But can you recall like the worst thing? Back in the day, people would give like a toothbrush or something.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Oh, yeah, absolutely. You're going to thank me 10 years down the line. Yeah. You better believe it. Can you think of anything? The only time I ever like was disappointed. I remember that there was someone that was giving away fruit and I just remember like specifically learning in school
Starting point is 00:02:58 like not to take stuff like that because you're always like well there's going to be razor blades in whatever you have which still does this day. I don't know if that's actually true but I just I feel like I was growing up always told hey you always got to check all the candy you can't have fruit or anything that's open because it could have a razor blade in it. And like here you go here's a cum quab. How do you like that?
Starting point is 00:03:17 Have fun. Have fun. Mine was, it wasn't me. it was my kids and this it was the very first house on Halloween and the guy only had bottles of hand sanitizer that was it is the first house
Starting point is 00:03:33 he was decked out he had like floaties and lights and we were like this is gonna be a banger first house and my kids are like let's go and we go up and it's a basket of hand sanitizer and we're like all right like it's cool if you give that but maybe like with some can't nope
Starting point is 00:03:51 It was just hand sanitizer. So that was the most disappointing probably one we've had. I think that wins, right? It was during near like COVID time, I guess. Okay. I guess that doesn't make sense. But I feel like I would be more concerned that people would think that it was like, it's candy hand sanitizer.
Starting point is 00:04:09 We can drink this or eat this thing. Yeah, that's a good point. That would be obviously problematic. Being the first house, it was more disappointing. So there you go. There's our big Halloween takes here. Hopefully you guys are all safe. have fun and you're safe and having fun for week nine.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Let's get into our questions. I do want to first remind, hey, you want more rousing conversations like we just had. I know you do. You guys can join us every single week over on the Discord, where we are live right now. Erickson and I,
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Starting point is 00:05:09 who I think was last on the show last week and didn't get on. And we assumed it was a Tess Johnson question. But Bucksman, what's up? What do we got? Oh, no. It's a bad start. Unmute? littering and littering and
Starting point is 00:05:23 littering and oh you're giving us the video too what's up bucks but you gotta fix it once you get it fixed let us know bucksman we'll get you back up he showed us some video too that was great mctunda do us right mctunda hey how's it going guys there we go what's up dude ericsson watchemak call it bars very underrated peanut butter bar
Starting point is 00:05:45 oh whatchama i thought you were like being facet yeah whatchamacallit you're actually saying Yep. You know what my favorite candy is and it doesn't exist anymore? I did this a couple years ago, but Fifth Avenue. Fifth Avenue was incredible. And they just, they're nowhere. They're nowhere to be seen. It's like a much better butterfinger. Like Butterfinger is very intrusive. It's all like like Fifth Avenue was the best and it's just it's gone. Sorry, go ahead. Oh no, you're fine. A couple quick questions there. They're actually both a little more dynasty. I mean, in a buying mood there, I just bought just. Josh Jacobs 401, did I pay too much for Josh Jacobs? Or do you think that's about right there if you're going for a championship this year? I tend to think that's about the price for like an elite running back in a win now mode. But what do you think, Erickson? Yeah, I think that's the going rate, I guess, for a player like Josh Jacobs.
Starting point is 00:06:39 And he's got a good schedule. It scores a bunch of touchdowns. We're hoping that the calf injury is not anything that is overly concerning. I'm not too concerned about it. So, yeah, again, we love collecting picks and really, but you still want to try to win at the end of the day. So yeah, go for it. Okay. What's number two? Number two is, are you worried about Drake London's hip going forward?
Starting point is 00:07:03 You know, I've had him all year and, you know, it's been quite a roller coaster for him. And then, of course, the last minute out didn't help. But are you willing to sell Drake London at this point, given his injury history and kind of a quarterback play there? But before I knock you off here, Mike Dundee, when you say sell, Is it like, are you willing to sell him out for less or are you talking at cost? Like, what's your perception? I think at cost, because I think there are probably still people that want to buy out there, but just more, are you willing to stick on to drink London right now or are you willing to move off again?
Starting point is 00:07:36 Okay. I just wanted to make sure I understand your personal take on it before we got to. What do you think there? Is there any concern with London? I think his perceived values like a little bit lower than preseason, right? I mean, you thought it could be number one overall in preseason. season. So I think that's like a no-brainer. But what do you think about moving off of him right now? Knowing his cost is like, you know, probably a little depreciated.
Starting point is 00:07:58 I have no interest in moving off of Drake London. He mentioned injury history. Has he really had this like long track record of injuries? I don't think so. Not that I recall. I think he had something last year though, didn't he? I don't think so. I'm pretty sure he played the majority. I'm pretty sure he's, I mean, he's had quarterback problems. Like essentially basically, it might as well be an injury because it's been because it's been tough sledding. I don't know. I don't remember anything else besides this and it's kind of like popped up kind of out of the blue.
Starting point is 00:08:26 So no, I think that he still can be an alpha wide receiver. Maybe he's not like a top five guy. Yeah, he didn't miss any time last year as I'm looking. He's still really young. He's like 25 years old. He has 100 catch season, 100 target plus seasons on his resume. Yeah, it hasn't
Starting point is 00:08:42 clicked quite yet with all of his quarterbacks, but still believe the Pennix is an upgrade. Again, Pennix has not even started. I don't think like eight NFL games yet. Or it's like around there. Like he hasn't even played a full NFL season. So I think we can still give him some time. Um, and I think that the upside is still there with Pennick. So now I don't think I want to try to get off him, especially in a dynasty context. Yeah, my go is to say no in general. But yeah, he missed one game in 2003, but didn't miss any time last year. There's questionable quarterback
Starting point is 00:09:09 play, but I don't know. He's still kind of the alpha. I don't even know what it would look like, to be honest with you for me moving off of him, better rate of these guys being able to hold long term as wide receivers. Like you would presumably have to like go and buy a two for one, you know, like a lower running back and lower wide receiver or a higher running. And I don't know what running back I'd want to buy in Dynasty over London. So I think I would hold as well.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Let's see if we can get Bucksman back in here. I'll see if it's working. Bucks. Yo, I heard you for a second. We hear you. What's up, Bucksman? Oh, thank you. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Sorry, guys. How y'all doing? What's up, dude? We're doing good. How are you doing? John. Doing well, I just had a question. It's in a standard lead.
Starting point is 00:09:57 And I'm trying to get Chase Brown on my team because I absolutely need RB2 help. I only have Yvonnek Williams. And then I have Rico Dado, Chuba, Hubbard, and I got Tyrone and Tracy. But so he wants one of my receivers. I have Puka, Jamar Chase, Ibuka, and he wants one of those guys for Chase Brown. I don't want to give it up. He also needs tight-in help.
Starting point is 00:10:22 I have Trey McBride and Gadsden, but he won't take Gadsden. So how can I get Chase Brown? What's a good way? It's a good question. So trying to get Chase Brown, the guy wants only incredible wide receivers or like a top two overall tight end for Chase Brown. Chase Brown does not have that type of equity right now. That's a rock and a hard place because, like should Gadsden get Chase Brown?
Starting point is 00:10:45 Probably not. should the other, like you got, you don't line up. I guess is where I'm trying to go with it. You don't seem to line up here. I, I kind of don't think you can get him. If I could move Gadsden. Okay, like Gadsden and James and Williams, like I think I, if I could do that, but if he's not willing to Ben, I don't think you have players that I would pay down
Starting point is 00:11:07 for Chase Brown on the, I'm not touching those wide receivers. You could maybe do McBride because you've got death, but I still don't want to do it. What do you think, Erickson? I agree with you. I think that there comes a point when you're doing these trade negotiations where there's so much push and pull and it becomes, it just doesn't flow the right way. And I think that you're right talking about how it doesn't align. Look, there are just some trades that just aren't going to happen. I get that we talk about certain players to try to target, but it's just possible that the way that your teams are set up, it just doesn't line up for you to really land a guy like Chase Brown without overpaying extensively for that player.
Starting point is 00:11:46 And then it becomes, well, I just overpay for Chase Brown, which I don't. So I don't think is the right move to make. And Joe Flacco has a shoulder injury now. What happens if he misses the games? Not good. Like, just not good for the offense. Yeah, we're not doing, we're not doing browning. Hell no.
Starting point is 00:12:01 No, it was really, really bad. So that's a concern. So what I would recommend is another player that I kind of view it as similar light to Chase Brown is Jalen Warren. So go with the mindset of, okay, whatever you thought about Chase Brown, go find the Jalen Man. Jaylen Warren manager try to strike up a deal with that person and see if that works maybe a little bit better based on what you each have on your roster. And also use the trade finder tool
Starting point is 00:12:25 as part of my playbook. Like that one is it, again, that one will give you ideas of like certain players you want to target. But that one also works with considering the rosters of both teams. And oh, this team needs this. Your team needs this. So that can help align good partners to trade with where, oh, let's find a deal where both guys can benefit or both managers can benefit from said trade, whereas this one, it seems like someone's going to end up losing, someone's going to end up being left out or frustrated, and those are not really trades that you want to recommend doing. Yeah, because you're kind of locked into Chase Brown, but it just doesn't align, and sometimes that happens. I really like the Jalen Warren pivot. That's probably
Starting point is 00:13:03 the way to go. And, you know, the other thing is, like, you might improve your situation if the team really does move into Rico this week. Maybe we get more volume out of Rico. Maybe he can kind of help save some stuff. We'll see where it goes. But I get, if you're going to trade Egbuka or Chase or Puka, you're the pool of running backs that you should be swimming in is a lot
Starting point is 00:13:26 smaller. It shouldn't be that big deep pool where you're going Chase Brown. It should be like you know, bejons and CMCs like maybe not a mecca, but you get what I'm saying here. Catalyst. Catalyst is on the line. What you got for us? Hey guys. Can you hear me? We got you good.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Awesome. So, currently sitting number two in dynasty trying to compete current running back room spears marks bucky um henderson and i lost scataboo um to injury obviously last week so that kind of crushed my rbby room i'm just trying to think like because um my current uh dynasty league it's not really biting a lot of the trade offers i'm trying to do like i'm trying to get sell scatch just to hopefully get um back to compete this year so like i guess if I'm not getting any offers to just continue riding
Starting point is 00:14:17 and just hope for the best. That's always my take. I hate, but also like, you know, like dynasty. I'm a bigger pain in the ass in dynasty that I think than others
Starting point is 00:14:28 because I think there's an advantage that gets tried to get taken. In some spots, I don't like to force trades. Like when you force trades, I think that's where you start moving like a mech egg buca for Chase Brown. Like I don't want to force.
Starting point is 00:14:44 the trades. If it's not a trade league, I guess that sucks. You want to improve and stuff like that. But I don't know. You don't want to put yourself in a bad spot by making a really bad move. Someone's like, yeah, okay, I'll take Cam Scataboo, but all I'm going to give you is Cream Hunt. Like, I don't want to do, I don't want to do that. And I'm also just not going to force off anything. Be active in talks, I think. You continuously throw stuff out in the league. You're fishing. Put some lines out there. But I just don't want to force anything. I'd rather stand Pat than do a lopsided trade that moves outside of my favorite. because I have a need. Does that make sense? Where are you at with that, Erickson?
Starting point is 00:15:18 No, I agree with you. Going back to kind of what we talked about with the other trade where things don't align, trades shouldn't always have to be really, really hard to make and shouldn't always require hours and hours of thinking and how it's going to work out and both teams are going to benefit from it. Sometimes the best trades are ones that it's like a no-brainer where it's like, oh yeah, this helps you, this helps me. Bang, let's make a trade. Done. And then you just move on. So if you find yourself not going into those types of trades, then I think that it's probably better to look in the other direction and just be like, no, I think I'm going to stay pat.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Like, I don't think I'm actually improving my roster by doing this and just kind of like playing with the hand that you've been dealt. It does just suck though when you're in leagues where just no one is active and no one's willing to respond and no one's willing to do anything like that. In those, I think you do have to be more proactive on it. I'd highly suggest not telling people why this trade is amazing for them and why the player that your trade, writing for stinks, but send out offers and say, you know, hey, you could screenshot the trade
Starting point is 00:16:16 analyzer with Fantasy Pros. You could say, hey, this, you know, Fantasy Pro says this is an even trade. Just want, you could screenshot it, send to them, just want to get your thoughts on it. Like, that's the type of process I would add to just sending out some trade offers to get people to try to be more active. But if they're just not active and they're not willing to do it and everybody wants Jamar Chase, you know, for Tajey Spears, then you're just going to have to roll, man. And I feel your pain. I have a league where I had Cam Scadaboo and Bucky Herving right now.
Starting point is 00:16:45 We had four or five backs. It's a best ball. And we are literally running out one back this week. We had like Roshan deep, Buckees hurt, breezes on a buy and Scatterboos out. We have one running back to run this week in a best ball. We should have drafted more than five. But we're, you know, we're in that spot. And it sucks.
Starting point is 00:17:03 It definitely sucks. I would say if you're really, really, really hurting at running back, Someone that might be out there in Dynasty is Elijah Mitchell. Like, he's on the Chiefs. And maybe he plays more with the Chekko banged up. So there you go. It's probably out there. Trick or tree.
Starting point is 00:17:20 I added him in a couple spots. Yeah, maybe. Okay. Cornwallis, you're up. What you got? All right. Can you hear me? Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Yes, sir? Okay, cool. So I got a couple of questions. I think they're pretty fast. But one is a sit-start. my last flex spot it's monongai doubtle franklin or breschard smith i kind of feel like leaning monongai because the bengal's defense is so bad but wanted to get your guys thoughts i know where ericsson's well i'm i'm dowdell here but you are you are team monongai if you listen to the running back
Starting point is 00:17:54 episode right yeah just playing back winning backs against the bengals if pacheco's officially out does i change your mind on breschard smith at all i mean breschart smith was getting solid usage with pachko in the line of and then last week he just like totally disappeared he also fumbled which because i bet on him it's because i put money on him that's oh no i also did over one-and-half receptions and i don't think i think he had zero it was that was my bet too i needed two receptions to cash lots of money that was all that i needed and breshard smith was like nope we don't catch balls anymore this is extreme this minus 200 bet i'm thinking oh this is a layout shock he said two catches every single game that's what he's used for and they're like, no, we're going to flip run a couple things.
Starting point is 00:18:35 We won't throw you the ball once. It was cool. But, no, I just like, I like the spot for Menungai. I mean, like, even if Dowdell is the lead back this week, it's a terrible matchup for him on the road. The Panthers are down a bunch of offensive linemen. So, again, I made, I was kind of talking tongue and cheek on the rank show. It's like, yeah, we'll get, we'll get full, we'll get workload, RICO Dado this week. What's it going to cost?
Starting point is 00:18:58 All the efficiency where we can get in the last couple weeks. Yeah, maybe. But Rico's really good in the passing game, and they decided not to use him there this past week. I think, like, if you're behind and you're like, hey, we have to get the ball into Doudal, I think that might create more of a situation where they're using him in the passing game. They used Chuba there, too. But I like RICO slightly more than a non guy, but they're both in kind of split situation. So that doesn't really help you.
Starting point is 00:19:22 But Erickson, I would lean to Erickson when in doubt. What was question number two? So I got some ad drops. So with that said, Richard Smith has been frustrating, as has been Luther Burden. Would you drop Richard Smith for Trey Benson and Burden for Golden?
Starting point is 00:19:42 Is this the last question, by the way, Cornwallis? Or do you have another? Yeah, yeah, it's done. Okay, cool. Thank you. Thanks, brother. Ooh. So drop the, I was going to say no on Breschard Smith,
Starting point is 00:19:54 but Benson looks like it's close, it's close and then the golden side. Do you drop burden for? Benzon. Just do that. Oh, I like that. Yeah, and then hold on to Breschard Smith, regardless of Matthew Golden.
Starting point is 00:20:08 I'm a Matthew Golden stand. But dude, like, it's just, there's never going to be volume. Like, he might have three cool plays, but Christian Watson is there. Romeo Dobbs. Tucker Kraft is a wizard. Like, I love your idea. I'm with your idea. Yeah, it's classic Packers, wide receiver usage, right?
Starting point is 00:20:27 Nobody's really the number one. I guess it's really Tucker Craft. And you know, who's also coming back? Jaden Reed. He's coming back at some point, too, in the second half of the season. So, yeah, because he, so, yeah, Golan's going to be tough to trust. It's one of those things where, like, you're in a pinch.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Hey, I need a receiver with upside this week. All the Packers kind of fall into that category, but are they going to be consistent? No. And I think with Golden, he had his opportunity, right, with all these injuries to really kind of take the number one job and be the guy. And he was okay. He had moments, like you said, but he didn't really, okay, I'm the alpha in his offense now. And that wasn't really any profile coming out of Texas.
Starting point is 00:21:05 So definitely a little bit more of a boom bus receiver. He has upside on a week-to-week basis, but it consists of not really there. So, yeah, if I can get Benson, just kind of see what that turns into when he comes back from his injury, that's what I'd want to do. If you are looking for customized advice because Erickson and I are not live for you, or you've watched all the shows and you just need more. Well, guess what? you can sync your league instantly to my playbook. And you can get customized advice on how to manage your team throughout the season. So your league's top available players, power rankings, and more for free.
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Starting point is 00:24:42 What up, dude? Just a couple questions here. So are we out on Piersall, if Worthy is pick up a bowl on waivers? Oh, that's a good question. were these there it would cost Pierceall what say you I would drop Pierce's all yeah
Starting point is 00:24:58 he's my last my six wide receiver what do you think yeah I just don't know when Pearsall's ever gonna come back yeah like he didn't practice again yesterday yeah I don't he's not playing this week
Starting point is 00:25:09 that's without question but him and when him and Pretty are back he's the unquestion number one on that team like when that happens Worthy is at best the number two on that team
Starting point is 00:25:21 but I think there's too many questions. I'm fine with doing. If Xavier were, what was this? Two man league? 10 man? 10 man. Yeah. Yeah. So if worthy's on the wire, you could probably drop Pearsall. You could probably play worthy more right now.
Starting point is 00:25:38 But I do think like this can change in a week or two. What did you say, Erickson? Are you good with that move? Yeah, I'm good with that move. Again, remember, the waiver wire is dictated usually by production. So that's what's going to cause the most guys get added and drop. If he's injured, he's not producing. So if again, there's a chance you could get him back to. Yeah, that's kind of how I was feeling to.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Yeah, like there's a chance you could go get him back if we find out. Okay, he's practicing. Okay, then, I mean, nothing can, no one is preventing you from. You can pick up worthy this week, drop Pearsall next week, drop Worthy, pick Pearsall back up, right? Like, that's totally fine. That's kind of the way the things are moving. And you know that there's still not a lot of hype with Pearsall just because he's not doing anything. So I think, yeah, for this week, especially because Worthy's playing in a high-scoring game.
Starting point is 00:26:22 he could pop off. You could sell worthy if he goes for 100 yards in a touchdown and then just pick Pearsall up. Let me ask you this though real quick, Erickson, though. If he picks up Worthy and he's not going to play worthy at all, does this change your thought process of thinking like, well, worthy's not even going to play regardless this week? And maybe next week, does that change to saying, hey, listen, if I have to, if I'm not going even think about a guy for, let's say, three weeks, I want Pearsall over him or do you just
Starting point is 00:26:49 still go with what you said? I think he's still pick up worthy. Just because his value can actually increase this week, right? She could just have a big game. You catch a long touchdown, and then you could trade him, right? So whereas Pierceell, that's not going to happen. We don't even know if Purdy's playing and Bayyuk is also coming back at some point too. Yeah, that's another question.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Yeah, that's coming back. Also, I think the 49ers have like a buy week come. Actually, no, their buy week's not for a couple of weeks. It's late. Yeah. Yeah, just. Also, the Chiefs have a bye week after this week, I believe, as well. So, Oh,
Starting point is 00:27:22 Warren. Okay. Keep that in mind to. Yeah, what was question number two? Okay. And then I was trying to
Starting point is 00:27:27 try to figure out how they upgrade running back and I was thinking about pairing up Dobbins and Tett for, I don't know if Henry,
Starting point is 00:27:37 if that's too much to try to get Henry or, or James Cook. I don't know of those two names if that's in the wheelhouse. I don't think you can get
Starting point is 00:27:48 James Cook. But I do think Henry's a possibility. I mean, that's a pretty fair trade offer, by the way. I feel like we get a lot of people that will come in and the offers, and we're just like, oh,
Starting point is 00:27:58 like if you can make that happen, cool. If a guy needs a wide receiver, getting Dobbins. Dobbins is a teensy type of running back with a wide receiver two, pseudo wide receiver three. I don't think it's a bad move if people have depth. I just feel like it's out of pocket to even think you're going to get James
Starting point is 00:28:13 Cook. Maybe you could get Henry, but maybe you feel different. I think you can try, which is hard to trade for guys. guys if they rush for 200 yards. Right. And so that's a tough.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Do you think Henry and Cook are a different gap? It depends on what the Henry manager thinks with Lamar back. Right. I think that matters. So, I mean, I would think I'd rather have cook rest of season, Henry. Agreed. But I don't think it's by like a significant, like, I think that Henry's like probably pretty close to him in the rest of season rankings.
Starting point is 00:28:45 I do agree that this is a good strategy, though, to use Dobbins and another piece to move up. a running back tier, whether that's Henry, whether that's Cook. So yeah, shoot for Cook. If it doesn't work, settle for Henry, I guess is the way I would. Yeah, good way to end that because I think at the end of the day, regardless of what we're saying, just try it. I think it's a strong offer. It's not an offensive offer. I think it's very reasonable.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Worse they do is say no, but you can field it. And if they click the accept, I think it's a win for you on both sides. So I go put it out there. I like what you were doing there. Jorge. Jorge's up, Premier member on Fantasy Pro's. Discord, fantasy pros.com slash chat.
Starting point is 00:29:22 What's up, Jorge? Hey, how's it going, guys? Good. A few questions. So one of the things I'll paste my roster into the chat here. So this is a 12-man PPR league. We started off two and two.
Starting point is 00:29:36 I'm now three and five. I've had Bucky, which has been unfortunate because he has been out for the last four weeks and on a buy this week. Chase has really shown up and I have H.M.,
Starting point is 00:29:46 which has been helpful. But what I'm trying to figure out is this seems to be like a must win set of weeks. Seven and seven seems to be enough, given the tiebreakers. But I've got, you know, Bucky's still on IR. He might be out potentially for the season. We don't know yet.
Starting point is 00:30:00 And Chase is on by next week. Would you consider shopping those guys around to try to build some depth here to potentially make a playoff run? I mean, I don't want to, Chase has a great playoff schedule. But I don't want to also assume that I'm going to make the playoffs. Then he just sits on, you know, he doesn't make it to the playoffs effectively. How would you guys think about shopping Bucky or Chase around? Or do you think this is a lineup that's good enough
Starting point is 00:30:20 to make the playoffs. I mean, I don't know where you're out with this, I just don't think you can trade Bucky for much of anything. And I think he's got stars. He's got Achan is his top running back. Chase is his top wide receiver. And unfortunately, I think that's really the only trade value you have. Like QJ is kind of disappearing.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Pollard is in stink mode. And I guess I look at this and I go, you could take Achanter chase and try to get depth. but you're taking the top off of your team. And if Bucky comes back, you're okay. I think I'm trying to win with this instead of consolidating, but it's a do-or-die situation. So you tell me different.
Starting point is 00:31:02 I will not tell you different. I think that this is the roster. You kind of have to go to bat with, I don't always like trading for depth anyway, because we all know it. Usually it's one or two guys every week that makes you either win or lose your lineup, right? It's the couple guys that totally smash,
Starting point is 00:31:17 and you have Chase who falls in that category, Devante Adams can have monster games, A chance. So you have enough home run hitters. And when Bucky comes back, you know, I think that Bucky's probably the piece that you're looking to trade because there's still a lot of question marks about. There's no value. We can say that, but we really don't know. Like, injured players are definitely, when I do the rest of season rankings, like, they're
Starting point is 00:31:39 the hardest people to rank. Totally. Because honestly, most of the time, I just don't move them. Because I'm like, I don't know how to move them up or move them down. I feel like I move them up a little bit as they get closer to them finally returning. But then obviously once they return, we see their value trade pretty substantially. So, I mean, I'd say shop, Bucky. I mean, the worst thing you do is you get a low ball offering, you just reject it.
Starting point is 00:32:02 So I think that that's fine. I mean, Bucky for Jalen Warren. Jim has got a great schedule rest of the season. I don't think the Jalen Warren person does it. Okay. If they could, they would. But at the end of the day, Jorge, because I saw you disappeared and came back. I just don't think your roster, you should move off of your elite pieces to consolidate
Starting point is 00:32:28 because I think those are the guys that can carry you and you're just going to have to cross your fingers. And like Erickson said, if you can dangle bucky and get something, I think that's the way to go. Did you have another question? Yeah, so then I guess, you know, coming on the horse I wrote on then for the rest of the season. So, you know, I got, unfortunately, I dropped Shakir for Mooney, assuming that London being out was going to be helpful. That lost me the week, fortunately. So at this point, like, is QJ like the better flex, do you think? Or should I rely on, like, a polar to Sharbs or a Spears?
Starting point is 00:33:03 And then I'm assuming that K9 is going to be my RB2. Like, I've been burned by him repeatedly. I'm just trying to think, like, if you've gun to your head, you got to win this week. Who are effectively your RB2 and your foot? flex at this case. That's a good question. We're both very out on QJ right now. It's tough to say.
Starting point is 00:33:20 I would say K9, Ken Walker is your RB2, and what are you doing at flex? Yeah, I was going to say, would you do Charbonate at Flex? I mean, think about it. Like, if they combine for 35 points, do you care which one does what? No. You get bold. And QJ is putting up donuts right now with Gadsden out there. I think that gets you.
Starting point is 00:33:43 I mean, the Seahawks are favorites. I get there on the road, but they're playing the commanders. I'm not afraid of their defense. We know Seattle loves to run the football. And you can get all the efficiency from Walker, get all the touchdowns from Charbonnet, and you have a wonderful Sunday night football game that you're not tilting because you get the points no matter what.
Starting point is 00:34:01 So I think that's a pretty safe approach. I mean, I guess maybe Spears, like, there's a chance that Pollard is, like, inactive this week because he could get traded. So I would keep that kind of like stashed in the back pocket just in case the Spears has a full workload, then he would obviously be the play. But, dude, I'll roll up.
Starting point is 00:34:18 We'll see Oaks running backs. Chantazar one of them is going to do decently well, and I think the other one at least will do something to give you a floor. And he said, should I drop QJ for someone else? Then next week would chase out. Yeah, if there's guys. Absolutely. I think QJ is in dropable range right now,
Starting point is 00:34:33 depending who's available in your league. So, you know, we don't know who that is, but you can also sync up and you can get the tools to tell you the players that you need to be jumping on if we're not around. Ronan, also a premium member on our Discord. What's up, Ronan?
Starting point is 00:34:50 Hey, gentlemen. Happy Halloween. Happy Halloween to you too, buddy. What's the good word today? Just a two-parter here. Would you take Dobbs or Sutton for your last wide receiver spot?
Starting point is 00:35:05 Sutton. Okay. Okay. And for everyone, I have two flexes. spots to fill so with that case would you uh start dobs charbonnet etn or uh gadsden and we got to do two
Starting point is 00:35:18 yes sir half ppr half ppr sharps dubs gadston and who was the other one it was a good one wasn't it rona yeah rona sorry got you off what was the other yeah oh etienne yeah so etan oh etan and gadsden i said this on the tight end show
Starting point is 00:35:39 the stuff like gatson Yeah, like the top tight ends, or maybe I did this on in this league, the top tight ends, I think they're like no doubt like flexy guys. And that's, you know, Kittle and Bowers and McBride. If you were to somehow have like two or they're a viable flex, put them in. They perform at like wide receiver two ranges. Gadsden's in an interesting spot where he's not quite them, but he's a tier of his own. But like, I'll take him. I'll take Gadsden over Dobbs.
Starting point is 00:36:08 I think they're going to perform. Dobbs needs two touchdowns to be good. He needs a touchdown equity there. I think Gadsden's been a monster. So, yeah, it's Gadsden and it's definitely ETIN's a no-brainer, right? So I'm over Charbonnet. Gadsden, yeah, I think so. No, not Gattson.
Starting point is 00:36:26 No, Gattson, we agree. Oh, E-TN over Sharbonnet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. E-TN over, so I have Charbonnet over E-N. So you're going to say Charbonnet and Gadsen then? I think so. I mean, again, I have E-TN and Charbonnet rank back-to-back. So I'm, I'm, I'm pretty indifferent.
Starting point is 00:36:42 I'm trying to see what ECR has. ECR has Travis E.TN at 17 and it has Charbonnet at 28. So I think you think probably ETN is probably the safe play. I guess I'm just concerned about what we see this offense look like out of the biweek with essentially Bayshall 2 in more involved. True. But that being said, Charbonnet has Ken Walker who's fully involved. so I think I can probably move.
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Starting point is 00:38:23 Ribs and cheese. What's up? So guys. A quick start set and a trade question. Standard scoring, couple guys with good matchups, Bam Knight or Monong guy. Ooh, Bam Knight, I have higher, and I think you do too, Erickson. Got to go.
Starting point is 00:38:43 Bam. What is it? Neva-Lam? Let's go. Bam, bam. We're going with Bam. All right, perfect. And then I know we're lower on this 26 class and dynasty.
Starting point is 00:38:54 I have another guy's pick that's looking like it's going to be the 103, so it's pretty high pick, even though it's bad class. To upgrade, running back two, would you give up a 103 for either Jibonte Williams or Katherin? And which one of those would you prioritize? Who was the second one? Kyron Williams. Oh, Kyron.
Starting point is 00:39:13 Okay. So Kyran or Giovante for the third pick in the upcoming first round dynasty draft? I can't weigh in on this 2026 class. So I can't. I have no. So based on the information that if it's not good or we're down on the class as a whole, if I'm picking between Kyron and Giovante, the thing is
Starting point is 00:39:37 Giovanda doesn't have a contract so I don't even know what team he's on next year It's like that's hard for me to fork over A future first When I don't know what team he's even going to be on next year Whereas Kyrin he's on the Rams Like I paid him like And I feel like he's got a pretty high floor
Starting point is 00:39:52 So I guess it would be Kyron I gotta be honest I don't really love either deal To be told like Just be honest But I think I probably pick Kyron Yeah I'm trying to look at some of the I just pull it.
Starting point is 00:40:05 up a random thing. I mean, we're probably not the best for that dynasty front. That's a Fitsy a NEM question. Yeah, I mean, Jordan Tyson is like at the top of the class for wide receivers. But yeah, I'm looking through, I agree, the running backs and wide receivers is not anything that's blowing the doors off. Situationally, things could change. But I mean, I don't know, dude, you get a top 12 running back if you can get Kairn for it. And if you're in win now mode, this is a classic flags fly forever. I really would want Tyson, with ASU, but I don't know if I'm beating the doors down on anybody else. I personally think I might do it.
Starting point is 00:40:42 But, you know, like again, Bogman and Fidsey, they might, they might feel a little bit different. You know, they're definitely more in tune. But you're looking at, I just pulled up another random one, Jeremiah Love, Tyson, and then it's like Lemon or Boston from Washington, Jonah Coleman from what, yeah, I think the top two picks are the place you want to be. And then it's, so yeah, yeah, I'm going to say yes on this. And you said,
Starting point is 00:41:06 Kairn or Duvante? I think I want Kiron. Did you agree with that? You want Kairn? Yeah. It's just because I don't know what team Javentta's going to be on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:17 Because you give me a free agent. So that's... I'd imagine the Cowboys probably want to re-sign him up. Well, no, the Cowboys want no running backs. They're going to just pick up... They're going to get Chuba Hubbard as the running back next year. Totally.
Starting point is 00:41:28 That would be funny. All right. Iggy, I bring back RICO. I actually wouldn't hate that. What's up, Iggy? Hey, guys. Can you hear me? Yeah, got you.
Starting point is 00:41:36 What's up? So two questions that's okay. One's a start sit. One is this roster advice. So I'm pretty cooked at running back right now. I lost Scadampton and Benson. Right now I have Knight, Dowdle, RJ, Stashing Davis in case of the Breece Hall trade. Love it.
Starting point is 00:41:55 And I just picked up Hunt just in case Pacheco's out longer term. Somebody just dropped Rashad White. I'm hearing that there's some question around whether or not Bucky's going to be coming back soon. Who's the drop here if I want to make a move for Rashad White in case there is some, you know, long-term injury to Bucky? Eric, you're going to hate this.
Starting point is 00:42:22 I think it's Harvey. I don't think you can cut Kareem Hunt because I think Kareem Hunt, I think I'm starting him this week. I'm not cutting Doudal. I, dude, I mean, I'm a, I fall for gifts. Brees Hall put that gift out. I, I think I have. have to prioritize keeping Isaiah Davis over R.J. Harvey right now, and you got to get
Starting point is 00:42:41 Richard White. So I am cutting Harvey for him. What do you think, Erickson? Yeah, I think I would cut Hunt. Even though he can, okay, I mean. Well, let me ask you something. Let me ask you something. If Hunter, if Richard White had already already been on the waiver wire, who would have you picked up first, Hunt or White? Are you, I guess, I would have a close. Okay. I mean, if they had both been available at the same time.
Starting point is 00:43:06 I pick up Rashad White. I would have picked up for Shaw White too. Yeah. But you should like, yeah, I get like you want to, you want hunt, but look. Okay, but. We've also not like he's touched on dependent. And if you don't need to play him this week, like that's another thing that plays a factor. Like you need, like I don't have any choice.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Like if you need to prioritize this week, then, okay, you got to keep hunt. But long term, Rashad White has way more, I think has more upside. So then let me ask you this, though. R.J. Harvey's only path is J.K. Robin's getting hurt. I don't even think that's a question anymore. Yeah, and I don't think that's a question anymore that we, like, he had that huge, you had that awesome game against a bad team.
Starting point is 00:43:45 He could do that. But his only path to excellence is Dobbins being out because he had to have scored the three touchdowns. He'll never get volume over Dobbins. Maybe I'll be wrong. I don't think that is changing this year without injury. So you, do you, actually, you believe it's more important to side on Harvey's talent if Dobbins gets hurt, gets hurt, then I guess it's sacrificing like a Kareem Hunt.
Starting point is 00:44:14 You think that's, that weighs over like if Pacheco misses time and Kareem Hunt's more the guy in touchdown equity, like you're holding on to the Harvey thing. Okay. I do all that. You're like, yes. Okay. Looking for. Well, no, no.
Starting point is 00:44:28 I mean, you make it really good. No, but I just, who is the Denver Broncos starting runback week 15, 16, 17, 70? How confident are you that it's going to be? I'm a thousand percent. J.K. Dobbins. It is him if he is not injured. It's only injured. It's like Brian Robinson at this way. RJ, I mean, to the credit,
Starting point is 00:44:46 RJ Harvey Harvey does get evolved a little bit more in the past game and stuff like that. Yeah, no, he was awesome last week because they could do whatever they wanted. They were doing whatever they wanted, but he'll never have volume. It's not saying he can't have some value, but he'll never have the volume workload. Like it's just, he'll never overtake Dobbins. Daubins's been too good. No, no, I agree.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Like, Dobbins has been very, very, very effective this year. And while he's healthy, he is definitely the lead back in the Broncos back. I just think that who's the most expendable guy? I just think it's so Cream Hunt, right? Again, we like Cream Hunt because of the role he has. Not because we are obsessed. Oh, he's so talented. That's not the reason why.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Like, Cream Hunt is like, hey, I need a guy to play this week. He can fit the role versus Harvey has insane upside, which we saw last week when he scored three touchdowns, right? So I don't want to, I can't, how, that feels like bad process. Oh, I'm going to drop a guy after you score three touchdowns. Yeah, no, I get the logic of that. But also, like, if there's no Pacheco and Creamhunt gets 15 touches a game and Breschard Smith is getting 10, every single red zone carry is going in a chief's
Starting point is 00:45:54 offense to cream hunt. And he's going to score. He's going to be like James Cook, a couple years ago where he scored a million touchdowns and no yards. That'll just be cream hunt. He'll have like 13 carries, 40 yards and two touchdowns every single game. That'll be good. So that's why I have a hard time.
Starting point is 00:46:08 cutting Kareem Hunt in this Pacheco stuff. But this is a glut of Richa Zickey. There's like a bunch of dudes that you got you got a bunch of like interesting cool guys. And to think that Rashad White's sitting out there like at the end of the day, you kind of can't like screw this up to be honest. So maybe I can toss another question. I have King Cade and Bowers. Could I maybe drop King Cade?
Starting point is 00:46:30 Bye. Bye. Bye. You made the whole thing easy. Bye bye. I'm going to say so much time. I'm so sorry. No, no, you know, it's good to talk about the Harvey thing, though.
Starting point is 00:46:39 I think that's why I wanted to do that, and I pressed it. But absolutely, Kincaid can kick rocks in this. But it's good that we talked about the Harvey stuff. Yeah, I only had him because Bauer's been hurt this whole time, but fair enough. But yeah, and then the second question, I guess I have more than info I need now. But I'm starting Bam Knight against Dallas, Dattle against Green Bay. I have Hunt on the bench. Who should I really be starting?
Starting point is 00:47:05 because I like the matchup with Hunt and Knight, but I know Dowdell's a better player. I think I can even speak for Erickson, but you tell me otherwise, if Pacheco is out, Kareem Hunt's the start over Doudel. Over Doudel, okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:20 I mean, most, you were waxing poetic about Cream Hunt just a couple minutes ago, and I mean, I agree for this specific spot. Pichko is probably not going to play. Yeah, I think that,
Starting point is 00:47:29 again, I just have a bad feeling that Dowdell's going to get the usage, and he's not going to score fantasy points, because it's just a tough, it's a tough spot for him. And we still don't know what the receiving is, right? Like they've been using Hubbard more in the receiving role. And even if doubt is not seeing the majority of carries, well, does that change if they're
Starting point is 00:47:47 down by 14 points? Like, who's in the game? And I know that you think that that's possible. And I don't think that Dowdell is a zero in the passing game. So maybe that is where he does see his boosted role, which would be obviously great. But that is definitely more of a projection than, you know, fact, because that just has not been the fact when these guys have both been healthy, that really hasn't been used. I'm citing on Dowdle, but if I have a Kareem Hunt without Pacheco, I'm going to play him.
Starting point is 00:48:11 And Bam Knight is, there's nobody. So like there's volume, theoretical volume for him, pretty be the guy. And Kareem Hunt, I'll take the touch on equity. But I am like believer-ish that we are going to see Mariko Dado this week. But as you said, it's like it almost couldn't be a worse matchup. That's what makes it tough. Good question. Good breakdowns here.
Starting point is 00:48:29 A couple more. I Devo. What's up? What you got? Yeah, we got you. Perfect, cool. I'm going to drop the Roth in the chat. Just have a question and really kind of more just pick your guys's brain on what's your thoughts of priority for a tight end if you're just kind of struggling. I picked up Loveland for this week off your guys's advice. So, you know, hopefully that goes good overhawk. But should I be looking to move somebody to try to get a bigger tight end or should I kind of just stick with what I'm going at? I'm currently four and four PBR 12 team. And like last. week I lost because I had AJ Brown and Nico out. So like that was just going to happen.
Starting point is 00:49:10 Yeah, that stinks. If I should stick with the pieces because on paper, I feel like my team looks solid, but I keep just dropping some losses and having like Hawk drop like six points on my tight end spot. Yeah, Hawk sucks. It sucks that he sucks. It's a good question.
Starting point is 00:49:24 So his team he's got running back Gibbs and Henry and then on the bench, you've got Monongai, Mason Benson. So that's a little questionable, but you know, you can work with it. wide receivers neco brown tedaroa alave worthy and then lovelin and hawkinson so i kind of agree i think this team kind of does the business i don't think i'd want to trade from depth to upgrade tight-in though if worthy could get me something up there i would consider him because i'm i'm just down in general just because i think rsci rishy rice is a monster i could go to war with nico brown tetaro and Lave, but then there's some injury history.
Starting point is 00:50:02 So if I would entertain the upgrade at tight end, it would be worthy. And I'd really be trying to, you know, you're trying to sneak, I think, like a kiddle off of a team or something like that. But what do you think, Erickson? What would you, what do you, what's your take on this team? Can you pull off AJ Brown for Brock Bowers? I bet you can't. But it's a good question. It's worth trying.
Starting point is 00:50:25 I just don't think you can. I mean, he just was injured and he's had a season long of garbage and then a couple good games. Bowers have been hurt. Who are you described? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then there's AJ Brown. Yeah, yeah. I feel like they're kind of the Spider-Man meme a little bit, right?
Starting point is 00:50:43 Yeah. Kind of both been banged out. I mean, Brown's played more games, obviously. But again, if you're like kind of like looking at tight end specifically, I mean, look, AJ Brown, it's a bumpy ride with him. But he still had good games. Like it hasn't been like totally. And Brock Bowers, to your point, has really done nothing because he's been
Starting point is 00:51:02 also hurt. So I think this is probably going to be a last chance that we can kind of like buy a low on Bowers because I think that if he does come back healthy this week, his value is going to skyrocket back up to while we were drafting this guy in the beginning of the second round, Brock Bowers is back. Yay. So I think that maybe you flip A.J. Brown plus. I mean, if you're looking for elite tight end, like Bowers is the guy to go after. Do you think that Bowers is more obtainable than Tucker Croft or Tyler Warren? Well, And there you go. There's your answer.
Starting point is 00:51:36 I put up, remember we got these on our fantasy pros trip. It's our lantern. Fantasy pros lantern. So lights up. I think that's a good one to go to. Dredes in the chat said maybe going out for Gadsden. I thought about that.
Starting point is 00:51:47 I just think I'd still might lean worthy. I think Gadsden are worthy is actually kind of fair-ish. I probably lean on worthy a little bit more. But to be fair, Gadsden has one more week. He'll be in just like the goaded territory where things will never move. And then you wouldn't have to think about this nasty tight-in situation. And then when all things considered, when you just have all starters, he's rolling out,
Starting point is 00:52:09 Hertz, Gibbs, Henry, Nico, A.J. Brown, Tederoa, and then you'd have like a great tight end. So that's what I do it. So I think, bottom line, were these a guy to target or A.J. Brown and see if anybody's biting. Otherwise, don't press it. I don't love your tight ends, but I also wouldn't, I don't want to do a situation where someone's like, all right, well, listen, I'll give you, you know, give me Nico and I'll give you Jake Ferguson. And then you're just like, well, I got to get one and you do it. And I don't want to do that type of stuff.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Also, I think you're in a good spot this week with Loveland. Yeah. She'll have a good, she have a good game. All right. Lightning around these last couple ones so we can get them in. It's Matt. What's up, Matt? What's up, Matt?
Starting point is 00:52:47 So, I want to check my sanity with you guys. Am I crazy for shipping off Gentie and Tet McMillan for Rishie Rice and Isaiah Davis? I have another one after that. So Gentie and was it Tetaroa? Yes. for essentially Rishi Rice. You got rice and then you got the maybe Brise August traded Isaiah Davis.
Starting point is 00:53:12 You're not crazy. I love that you got the best player in it, but I'm not in love because you traded away two solid starters. Davis is very theoretical. If Brice gets traded, I mean, winner,
Starting point is 00:53:27 you know, you're going to make out good. But you're not crazy. I get what you did this. And if you had the depth, it's fine. I kind of think Bogman disagrees with me. think you disagree with me.
Starting point is 00:53:36 But I think coming off the buy, they're going to go heavy Genty. It's going to get back into being the Genty game outside of that nonsense we had. So I don't know. From a death perspective, I'm not in love. But I think it's fine. Did you have another one? So I do. But to follow, so I have Dejan Gibbs and Vidal.
Starting point is 00:53:56 So it was kind of like, I think I'm doing all right on right. Yeah, you're doing pretty good. And one flex. So I'm like, ah, you know. And then my wide receivers are all. Amon Ra, before the trade it was Tett, and then Garrett Wilson. And you start three? No, it's start two.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Oh, Jesus. So you're starting Amonra, Rice, and then you've got Bijan and Gibbs? Yes. How did you get in this league? What would league is this? Is this a dynasty? It's a fantasy league, and everyone panicked early on. And I was like, okay, well, I'll take everyone that you're scared of having, they blow up.
Starting point is 00:54:31 And I just started flipping players left and right. Oh, my God. Yeah, you're in a great number. mind you're good great dude so then my second question so i so i am seven to one sure very good of course uh i have bowers and gastin who would you start this week uh bowers yeah i get the god he's gonna ask who should i start gives or bejones yeah i know he's like i'm seven and one by the way i've got bowers tucker craft and tyler warren who would you start you're like jesus dude you're killing yeah you're killing it brother all right uh yeah i know raven what's up raven what's up raven
Starting point is 00:55:05 A couple more. Try to get them in here. Unmute. Anytime, I say lightning round, and then it's like, it's like a halt. I do that every time. What's up, dude? Right now. All right.
Starting point is 00:55:20 I just dropped the roster in the chat, but I was wondering if I should go with Blackco for week 11 when dime's on by or should I look for better? Um Was that the only question What is better? I mean, Flacco, if he's playing, like he's a pretty good start
Starting point is 00:55:40 this week. I'm trying to figure out who else would be on. I think he said for, um, yeah, why don't, actually I'm kind of confused.
Starting point is 00:55:46 Yeah, week 11, we're like, you're like three weeks away. Um, I mean, I'm dying. You could look for,
Starting point is 00:55:51 I guess if you're saying like, should you look ahead to cut Flacco for somebody better because of week 11 and you keep starting out dimes? Yes, don't know who those guys are. But, I would do that.
Starting point is 00:56:03 You should only be playing for the buys because I think Danny Dimes is pretty chocked. Yeah, he must get. Yeah, he's got to, yeah. Yeah, hopefully we answered that correctly. All right, last two. Jacob, what's up? Hey, what's up, guys, you got me? What up, what up?
Starting point is 00:56:18 Yep. How's it going, guys? I'll just make it super quick. I'm just going to throw my team in the chat here. Basically, I've got a group of basically all RB2s, and I'm just looking to upgrade. Who do you think might be a good person to reach out four to try to buy. So Genti,
Starting point is 00:56:33 Ety, Eton, Walker, Camara, Monongai, you want to trade one of those to upgrade? Do I hear that right? Yeah, trade one of those. I'd be happy to pair with one of the quarterbacks, one of the tight ends, maybe, or just two of those guys would work as well. Okay. You might have to just real quick. He has London Waddle, Ridley,
Starting point is 00:56:52 I guess you don't really have the depth at wide receiver. Never mind. But he's got Warren and Craft, so you're 100% you need to take one of those tight ends. and then you need to take, unfortunately, all of them are kind of down in value. So I would take a tight end and a running back and I would throw it out to what running back
Starting point is 00:57:09 would you try to get? Because I think you agree with me here. Yes. However, I would say, don't aim for the running back, aim for the manager who has the worst tight end. And then kind of intuitively figure out which running back you can get from them
Starting point is 00:57:23 because that's going to make the deal much easier. Yeah. It's going to be much easier for a manager to part with a running back. back they like to settle for ETN if they know that they're getting a massive upgrade at tight end. So this is one of these reverses where you're not really targeting a player. You're targeting a manager that has a bad tight end and you just take their best running back.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Great. Great point. Because if you are like, oh, this is the running back I want. It's like Bucksman earlier. I want Chase Brown. But they're sitting there with Trey McBride. They're not interested. Even if they picked up Gadsden, they're not interested. But if they're like the guy we just had a minute ago that's like, I got. Loveland and Hawkinson. Find the Hawkinson manager. Yeah, you might be able to like get a gentie or so. I think he actually might have had gentie, but you get the point.
Starting point is 00:58:08 So yeah, I agree. This is more of the strategy before the player here. Last one. It's our boy, Captain Slap. Let's go. Hey, what's up, fellas? What up? So I got a half-PPR dynasty question.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Neighbors obviously went down. I threw my wide receivers in the chat for you. the guy that I'm trying to trade with he wants a first for Garrett Wilson are we sending a first for Garrett Wilson he wants a first for Garrett Wilson this is like what rookie draft only or is this like
Starting point is 00:58:42 no in our dynasty we have to cut down to 20 players so there will be good wide receivers plus the rookies like but every two wait each team can hold 20 so there's not going to really be good wide receivers no I mean you're going to get those like wide receiver threes and like tess johnson will be available but like that's yeah um but most of the top
Starting point is 00:59:03 guys are going to be on teams yeah because if it's 10 teams 20 players it's 200 players gone it's really not going to be anybody it's not going to be like oh what do you know like barvin harrison rickson jr he's out here i don't know maybe maybe he will be again Tyson is somebody i want if it's the rookie guys as well okay and maybe you can answer this real quick as we're ending does it include does that include all the rookie draft players because if it does not include those and it's literally the 200s, knock yourself out. If it does include,
Starting point is 00:59:34 it's a little bit tougher maybe if I had the shot at getting Tyson. If it's going to be a lower first round, I don't know. Like, I don't like trading for injured guys, especially for first, but in this instance,
Starting point is 00:59:45 I kind of feel like I would. I think that I would rather have the pick. Remember, Garrett Wilson, he's a younger guy, but he's locked up with the Jets. He's signed a contract. we have no idea what the Jets are doing with their quarterback.
Starting point is 01:00:01 No clue. So I will take my chances with the draft pick. I think maybe I could get somebody else instead of Garrett Wilson. So I don't remember which side the manager was on, whether they have Garrett Wilson and have the pick. No, he has the pick. He would trade the pick to get Garrett Wilson. I would rather trade the pick for a different wide receiver than Garrett Wilson.
Starting point is 01:00:18 So I would pass. Yeah, I'd be comfortable doing like, just looking at ranks here. if you could go and would you do it for DK Metcalf? No, what actually I really like is a dynasty buy is Devontas Smith. Would you trade your first for Devonta?
Starting point is 01:00:36 What if they move? What if AJ Brown is actually like not done? Like next year he's done in New Philly. Like Smith is and Smith is like the guy. I don't know. I think I like Erickson's idea of maybe shopping around and see if there's a better wide receiver you can get for that first. But at the end of the day,
Starting point is 01:00:53 I don't know, I think based on the construction of what you said, I think I'm probably doing it to better my team. But I'm shopping. I'm shopping. That is it, Friendoz. Thank you guys so much for hanging out with us. Love having the audience here. You guys listening.
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