The Herd with Colin Cowherd - FantasyPros - The Extra Point: Tough Week 14 Decisions, Playoff Prep, and Chat Q&A (Ep. 1883)

Episode Date: December 6, 2025

Join Chris Welsh and Andrew Erickson as they tackle your questions LIVE on Discord every Thursday at 2 PM EST at fantasypros.com/chat. Timestamps: (May be off due to ads) Intro - 0:00:00 Trading ...for Jacoby Brissett - 0:03:15 Guillotine Decisions - 0:07:33 Omarion Hampton Confidence Level - 0:09:12 FantasyPros Discord - 0:15:04 Week 14 Flex + Playoff DST Options - 0:16:00 Getting Roster Set For Playoffs - 0:20:33 PHI/LAC Breakdown and Predictions - 0:25:37 FantasyPros My Playbook - 0:29:46 Tough Week 14 Decisions - 0:31:51 More Flex Options - 0:37:47 FantasyPros on Twitch - 0:40:26 Looking Ahead To Playoff Matchups - 0:41:49 Dealing with Week 14 Byes - 0:43:59 Week 14 Playoff Matchups: Looking For Upside - 0:47:12 Lightning Round Q&A - 0:50:34 Outro - 0:59:42 Helpful Links:Hard Rock Bet - All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up for Hard Rock Bet and make a $5 bet and you'll get $150 in bonus bets if you win. Head over to Hard Rock Bet, sign up and make your first deposit today. Payable in bonus bet(s). Sports welcome offer is payable in bonus bet(s). Not a cash offer. Casino Offer issued as non-withdrawable site credits. $10+ deposit required for 200 Bonus Spins for Huff N’ More Puff™ only. Up to $1,000 back in casino bonus if player has net loss on slots after first 24 hours. Casino Bonus credit has a 1x wager requirement. Offered by Seminole Hard Rock Digital, LLC. Must be 21+ and physically present in MI to play. Terms and conditions apply. Concerned about gambling? CALL 1-800-GAMBLER. My Playbook - Sync your league instantly to My Playbook to get custom advice on how to manage your team throughout the season. See your league’s top available players, power rankings, and more for free! Check the “Are They Playing” tool each week to get the latest game-day availability odds for all injured players. If you’re premium – you unlock all kinds of helpful waiver, trade, lineup and league analysis tools. You can even auto-start your team’s optimal lineup each week with Auto-Pilot. Sync your league and dominate every week of the season with My Playbook at fantasypros.com/myplaybook or on the FantasyPros App Follow us on Twitch - The team here at FantasyPros is taking questions all week, every week on Twitch. Follow us on Twitch at twitch.tv/fantasypros and never miss a stream! Discord – Join our FantasyPros Discord Community! Chat with other fans and get access to exclusive AMAs that wind up on our podcast feed. Come get your questions answered and BE ON THE SHOW at fantasypros.com/chat Leave a Review – If you enjoy our show and find our insight to be valuable, we’d love to hear from you! Your reviews fuel our passion and help us tailor content specifically for YOU. Head to Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever else you get your podcasts and leave an honest review. Let’s make this show the ultimate destination for fantasy football enthusiasts like us. Thank you for watching and for showing your support – https://fantasypros.com/review/ BettingPros Podcast – For advice on the best picks and props across both the NFL and college football each and every week, check out the BettingPros Podcast at bettingpros.com/podcast, our BettingPros YouTube channel at youtube.com/bettingpros, or wherever you listen to podcastsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas.
Starting point is 00:00:12 We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. But, you know, tired and sick. Tired and sick.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you. you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. What's up, friends, and welcome into Fantasy Pros, the Fantasy Football Podcast. This is the extra point. I am Chris Welsh. That is Andrew Erickson. And we are with our live audience on our Fantasy Pros Discord. We got a crew that is going to be producing for us. There's no prep, except the prep we've done during the week. We don't know what's going to be in store for us because you, the people, are going to produce this show by coming up and asking us questions live on the podcast, kind of like a radio show. And if we run out of hands and we still got time,
Starting point is 00:01:03 we're going to go to a chat and you can be a part of all of it by going to fantasypros.com slash chat. We'll talk about it more, but Fantasy Pros Discord meets podcast meets Andrew Erickson. What's up, brother? Going on, Welsh, I'd have you back after your one week hiatus. I did extra point with Boggs last week. And I'm not sure if you caught the show, but I talked a lot of smack about Joe Burrow. and I was very wrong about Joe Burrow. So I said I was going to take the L. So that's the first thing I'm doing addressing the elephant in the room,
Starting point is 00:01:38 my Joe Burrow take from last week. The L. Exactly where ECR was. Yeah, the L-Ophant in the room. Being wrong about Joe Burrow finished exactly where ECR had him. And he was the reason why I didn't finish higher in the accuracy contest. Probably would have been top 10. I'd just been like, nope, wisdom in the crowds.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Just go with Joe Burrow, ECR. It would have been fine. But no, had to be contrarian. was wrong. If anything, I got lucky because he didn't score even more fantasy points. Yeah, because he could have probably had like an even better game.
Starting point is 00:02:07 He had like 18, 19 points. So again, like a good game for fans quarterback, not, oh my God, he just went like 30, like scorched earth, which that might be this week.
Starting point is 00:02:16 So definitely on board, Joe Burrow, right with consensus, that Buffalo Bills, Bengals game is going to be a scorn bananza, especially because the weather is not out of control for Buffalo in December. Usually you get some of the,
Starting point is 00:02:29 these games you think, oh, no, it's going to be ruined. Why didn't they just build a dome for Josh Allen? But no, like, we got a couple flurries here and there. Nothing that's going to stop Joe Burrow and Josh Allen from cooking. So you should see a lot of points in that matchup. So looking forward to it. Well, we did the rank show. So I was, I could have guessed if you would have been like, what's the stance Erickson's going to take this week? I would have said, it's a borough, anti-burrow take. That's definitely where it is. I think I feel like the rank show that we do is like the second step of. of your narratives for the week.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Like, you probably started a little bit with worm, I think, because you guys would do like the trade show or whatever, the predictions. And then like the rank show is a start of the help of like what you're going to be talking about during the week. So make sure you're checking out that. And this is going to be us reacting with you guys. So like I said, we, I'm glad to be back. Totally random actually, too. I was just like, oh, I'm not on the show.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Okay, cool. That's easy. No real reason out maybe to give me a breather. But I'm glad to be back with the people. So let's roll it out. We got a bunch of hands raised with a bunch of our awesome people. So let's jump into it. What do you guys got for us?
Starting point is 00:03:35 Kicking it off for the show today is Catalyst. Catalyst, come on down. What you got? Hey, guys. What's up? What up? Okay, do you hear me? Yeah, you sound great.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Okay, good God. Thank you. So on one of the shows earlier this week, they gave me the advice of trying to trade for Jacoby percent for my dynasty league in a Superflex because my only other quarterback at that time. or two quarterbacks were May and Rogers. And since the fall of Pittsburgh's offense is pretty relevant, like usually around the start of the year,
Starting point is 00:04:09 I had to like think about another quarterback for my playoff run. So I got for set for 2023, a late third for next year. So I just wanted to agree on that. I love that. I mean, I'm like a little bit more, I don't know, pissy about like, Dynasty trades and football and stuff where I'm like, yeah, dude, win it. Proximity. Like people hug those first round picks.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Like you can only trade a first round pick if you get Jamar Chase back. Like I think that's a, that's a great return for a guy that's got a decent shot at starting next year in your playoff run. And I got to imagine you agree. Yeah, especially if it's a third that you're moving. I mean, anything outside of, to be honest, like rookie picks, like once you get outside of the top 15, 16 overall, like even like late seconds. users don't translate to anything, right?
Starting point is 00:05:00 And especially third. So I know that we all like to be like the most optimistic about I can find the diamond in the rough, the Isaiah Pacheco in the sixth round of my rookie draft. Well, that's the point, right? You don't need a third to find that guy. You could have a fourth, a fifth, a sixth, depending on how deep your rookie drafts are. So I think that that's fine to just deal for a player that can help you right now, has value right now and has a pretty good rest of season outlook,
Starting point is 00:05:24 just based on the Cardinals and how their offense is operating. and they just want to throw, throw, throw. And, dude, I don't think Tray Panzen's coming back. Like, like, he had a DNP. It seems like he had a relapse in his type of injury. So I think it's going to be the Zoneman Knight in Michael Carter show. I think it just means more dropbacks for Jacoby Reset. And looks like Harrison might miss again, which means Michael Wilson back to 18 targets a game.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Do you think that the Cardinals are going to trade Kyler, Murray in the off season and then re-sign because I believe Jacoby's only on a one year, if I remember correctly. I could be wrong. But do you think they would bring Jacoby back and get rid of Kyler Murray next year? Definitely that they're going to get rid of Kyler. I think Jacoby, it might depend on what they do with their office coordinator because Drew Petts saying he has a relationship with Jacoby that goes back to Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:06:18 I think he's part of the reason why Jacobi ended up signing with Arizona. I don't think Jacoby signed with Arizona because he thought, yeah, well, I'm going to take over the QB1 job because Kaiva is going to lose it. I don't think that was the reason why he signed in Arizona. It's probably just because, like, weather's nice or it's hot there and got a good deal. He knows the offensive coordinator, the coaching staff. So I think it makes sense if they're going to draft a quarterback. I don't know what they're going to do at quarterback.
Starting point is 00:06:41 I mean, Jacoby's not the answer. Like, he's not a franchise quarterback. Well, I would say, I think the answer is you draft a quarterback early and you bring Jacoby back for another year. And maybe give him a two-year deal, to be honest with you, knowing that, hey, you're going to get to start this year. And then you're going to be the backup next year. you're going to get a nice little bag and I think that's the play and I think and I do think Kyle Marie is gone after this year. I've been saying that for quite a while honestly. All right. Tim, Tim, Tim B. SUP. Sup did. Come on down, Tim. There we go. Hi, you guys hear me okay.
Starting point is 00:07:13 We got you. Tim. What's up, dude? First of all, pickles also gross. Olives also gross. Oh, both of them. Yeah. We, uh, I didn't even realize we were piggybacked on the Twitch that was going on and apparently there was a heavy pickle conversation and if anybody has followed my work for a long time they know my heaviest stance of anything is anti-pickle which it's a tough one because the pickle lovers of the world are usually pretty they're pretty loud uh ericsson said don't mind pickles hate olives i have no problem but tim you are against both so that's a hater on both i i have no problem with that i'm against both and my wife is one of those pickle advocates so Oh, rough household.
Starting point is 00:07:59 That's like Michigan and Buckeye fan in the same house. Pickle and non-pickle. That's rough. All right, what you got, Tim? A couple questions. In my guillotine league, I have Josh Allen at quarterback, and Dak Prescott is on the wire. Would you start Prescott over Allen this week?
Starting point is 00:08:20 I would go, Alan. As a guillotine winner in Fantasy Pros is the biggest, winner on the planet, I would go with Josh Allen. So you definitely want to listen to me. Okay, perfect. And then same league, PPR. Would you start Jameson Williams or Jalen Waddle? Jameson Williams, Jalen Waddle.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Go, Erickson. James Williams. Yeah, quietly. Ooh, you're so quiet. James, whispered. There's a question. I'm not happy about answering. I did.
Starting point is 00:08:54 I didn't set the rules. I'm rusty. I wasn't here last week. Didn't set the rules. No Thursday questions. You're right. I could see it on your face now. Got it. They got them. Disappointed. Very disappointed. Listen, not mad. We're just disappointed that anyone would ask a Thursday question. You guys continue to take advantage of us because we're trying to be nice and not say no to answering questions, but I got to respect the rules. Gotta respect the Thursday. Bobby, Bobby's in the house with no Thursday question because he's a good boy. What's up, Bobby? No Thursday question, but I do have to mention pickles or bomb.
Starting point is 00:09:29 I don't know what you're talking about. Really? Are you like the thick, glizzy pickles or are you like a sliced pickle guy? No, thick, crunchy, juicy, give it to me. Oh, man, never really good. What's your question? All right, on to the business. What's your confidence level in Hampton?
Starting point is 00:09:49 I mean, I know it's not too great for the week coming up, but for the future of the playoffs. Okay, so for this is a good question. This week, my level of confidence is relatively low. I have been kind of spouting out like, I would imagine the, the chargers are going to try to run a bunch. But as stupid as it is, it wasn't a stupid comment what you said. You said something super smart, but stupid in my brain, I was like, yeah, I just realized that Herbert really isn't going to be able to move to the right side.
Starting point is 00:10:18 He's not going to be able to hand the ball off to the right side. So there might be with the opposite hand, the non-throwing hand. being broken because he's not going to be able to hand it off this way. So you might have like different looks on the team trying to pitch, you know, do pitches like they did with, with Aaron Rogers or, you know, having like delays out of the shotgun. All I'm getting at is like now I kind of feel weird about them running the ball. And I don't think Hampton's on a full run this week, regardless of how he's going. So my confidence level is like low, low running back two to a high end running back three.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Erickson, do you feel different? Now, I think that the whole Chargers offense, you kind of feel lukewarm at best, right? So many receivers they were trying to figure out matchup's terrible. It's the Philadelphia Eagles. And we saw how the Eagles got beat last week against the run. Okay, we're going to see some volume. And the thing is, does Kamani Vidal just completely go away? I don't think so because he was really good.
Starting point is 00:11:17 For the most part, like filling in for Hampton. Like, he had a lot of monster games. And I think the Chargers, again, they drafted Hampton, and they signed down. Najee Harris. Like they wanted to have a two running back room. It didn't end up working that way because of all the injuries that hit to their backfield. So I don't think that Vidal is going to be like totally supplanted, especially in Hampton's first game back. I think that this for, if you're a Hampton manager, you're hoping, okay, he plays, he looks healthy, looks explosive.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Maybe it's like 50, 50, but like has the 55% of the workload over Vidal and then we expect it to grow. And then you start him with more confidence next week in the fantasy. playoffs. There's, is there no Bucky scenario for you? There's no, you know, where they're like, hey, listen, Bucky's going to be on a limited snaps and then all of a sudden Bucky was just like ballistic and got, because I agree with you though. I don't think about L just like goes away with this, but you don't think there's a Bucky in
Starting point is 00:12:10 his future? Not this week. Again, I liked Bucky a lot last week. I don't really feel the same with, with Hampton because Hampton is a less established player. I know that he was a first round pick, but Bucky had it all of last year with this coaching staff. with the head coach to, hey, I'm the guy when I'm healthy.
Starting point is 00:12:29 And I'd also say, yes, Sean Tucker was good for a couple games, but Rashad White didn't, like, take the job and run off with it. I thought Vodell, like all, like his overall body of work was probably better than Rashad White and Sean Tucker, what they did. So I think the Chargers kind of feel like, hey, we still want to get Vidal evolved a little bit here. But then you also go back to the Herbert injury thing. Again, if Herbert wasn't hurt, maybe I'd feel different.
Starting point is 00:12:53 And if the Chargers had not a terrible offensive line, also feel different, but those things are also true. So I think that I'm willing to maybe miss a monster game from Hampton his first game back, which is I don't think any guarantee and I don't feel nearly as great about it as I felt like with Bucky last week. And if it just means that he's going to be healthy in the fantasy playoffs, then I'm willing to wait another week probably. Yep.
Starting point is 00:13:18 I mean, I kind of with you on the take. One interesting note, Eagles Jalen Carter is out for Monday's game. and he's undergoing a procedure on both his shoulders. So. Okay, well, that does change things pretty substantially because we saw, again, the one game that Jamie Carter missed,
Starting point is 00:13:38 or he missed the Cowboys game, Jamante had a monster game. Cam Scataboo, when he faced the Eagles, they didn't have Jayvon Carter. He had a monster game. So now I'm actually kind of pivoting a little bit more towards Hampton as an upside play.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Again, the floor is, a lot of question marks based on the help of the quarterback and all the things I kind of listed out, but now you get a scenario where this Eagles defense, if it's really that bad against the run without Jalen Carter, what we saw last week, Greg Roman has shown it in the past that, hey, I'm willing to let it rip with the run game, with an injured quarterback.
Starting point is 00:14:11 So now I'm probably a little bit more open towards it actually being a Bucky scenario. I'm not trying to change my stance on the fly like that, but that is a significant injury that matters a lot. It does. That's why I brought it up. Yeah, the interior linchpin to that defense. I know that this is the first injury report we're getting, right?
Starting point is 00:14:28 Because they play on Monday night. Yeah. So, I'm glad they brought that up. What was your rank prior to the Jalen Carter, did you say? Like, or even Facinity. You don't even have to give me like exact because I think I had him at like 26 prior to knowing about the-
Starting point is 00:14:40 I had him 24. Okay. So with this injury, Jalen Warren or Hampton? I think Hampton is probably more upside than Jalen Warren does. I don't like the Steelers offense. So that? That's actually decently up for you then. Well, I think, too, with Monday night being when Omer and Hampton is going to play,
Starting point is 00:15:05 I guess you're going to have to make that decision. Yeah, that's tough. I think, no, but like, do you think my analysis is wrong with saying he has the higher upside than Jalen Warned up? No, no, I don't. I mean, Kenny Gainwell kind of takes away from that a little bit. I think the upside of Hampton, I think you legitimately have to look at the upside of Hampton similar to Buck Irving. And like what Buck Irving did. Like if the chargers were to get inside the red zone, all of a sudden, Hampton might start thriving.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Vidal might have got them there. And then Hampton kind of takes that. So I don't, I think the upside is there. I agree with you for sure. Come and be a part of the show. You can ask great questions. Like, I believe that was Tim. You don't have to have the best takes because Tim didn't on Pickles.
Starting point is 00:15:44 But you can have great questions. And you can be a part of these shows on the Fantasy Pros Discord. Fantasypros.com slash chat. It's free. Come and hang out. Then you just have to have a fantasy pros account. just a free account. Join up.
Starting point is 00:15:56 You can hang out and be a part of shows. This is a Discord chat that becomes a podcast. Me and Erickson are here every Tuesday, Thursday at 2 p.m. Eastern. We've also got a couple other offerings
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Starting point is 00:16:17 Fantasypros.com slash chat. Fantasypros.com slash chat. Nick Laur. Nick, what's up? Nick was concerned about his service. So hopefully we got Nick early enough that he can jump in. What's up, Nick? Hey, guys.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Appreciate you. I've been taking the time. I'm, I set my questions in the chat as well, but I'm just kind of curious. This week, I have like 0.2 points per rush, but also PPR. I think I should go with Debo and the flex or a man, young guy.
Starting point is 00:16:46 And then the other question is more like playoff defense related. I have the bucks in Philly for one that I'm locked in the playoffs. I'm just wondering, obviously, what the Carter needs is Philly is still the move in Week 15 against the Raiders. And kind of beyond that, I was kind of hype for the bucks over the playoffs. I don't know. Still has in on them. I'm curious what you guys think. I listed some of the available ones as well there. You know, guys like Atlanta or the Giants against the Vikings or like week two of the playoffs or Buffalo against Cleveland, New England against Baltimore. Those kind of options are available.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Okay, we got you, Nick. His service a little spotty there so we can, but you had the first question is with a fifth of a point per rush attempt, does that do anything for you, Dibor or Menonga? I kind of lean, I mean, Managua's a little bit banged up. If Manangai plays and they give a little bit of like a health bill positive, I think I would lean still Monongai, but what does it do for you, Erickson? What, Manangai in my lineup, not Debo, same all.
Starting point is 00:17:52 I think that I'm getting a lot of this commanders is a trap game. Again, emotional loss in overtime, prime time, Mariotta, which is actually the right way to pronounce his name. It's actually, well, there is one caveat. It actually was Mariota. It's the Mario versus Mario was at, and all the jokes aside, because it was so ridiculous because of how enunciated the T was, is why everybody in the planet was like, what the hell's going on? But the real key from Marcus was the Marr. So Mariotta was.
Starting point is 00:18:33 So you can say, I'm going to say Mariotta because enunciating the T makes me want to put my head through a wall. But the mar is what we want to focus on. So please go on. Like super Marioata. Yeah, not super Mario. Yeah. Yeah, not Mario. Mario.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Super Mariotta. I think that this might be a trap game for the commanders a little bit on the, the road against the Vikings, the Vikings defense kind of boom or bust, but the Terry back, if they're not throwing 50 times, I'm not sure Debo's going to see as much volume as he saw last week and was productive. So I like Manangai. The Bears running attack has been able to run the ball on basically everybody. And talking about defensive line injuries, I know you mentioned Jalen Carter, the Voltae Wyatt. He got put on your reserve for the Packers after the Thanksgiving game and some pretty stark splits. This is from next gen stats. I'm doing this off the cuff. But basically
Starting point is 00:19:22 when teams ran away from his side, they were averaging over five yards, carry. So that matters pretty substantially for the Bears who, I mean, it really hasn't even mattered who they're playing. They can run the ball on anybody. Just Ben Johnson has scheming it up so well. So Monongai, I think he scored in four straight
Starting point is 00:19:37 games as well. He has red zone equity. As long as his health is fine, which will get more information. And then the first time he's been on the injury report either. So I think he'll probably be okay. I know Swift has also been on the injury report a couple times this year. So I think that Monong guy would be the play for me. And then for the defenses, I think kind of overthinking it just a tad.
Starting point is 00:19:55 It doesn't matter. Like, and you could start the worst defense in the NFL against the Raiders. And they're going to get pressure on Genus. Like, the offensive line is just so bad for Las Vegas. And all the options that we're given are like bad defenses. Yeah. And I like the Bucks too. Like the Bucks have a great schedule rest of the season.
Starting point is 00:20:13 So I know I have them in a couple leagues where I stashed them as my playoff defense. So I think that you're fine with running between Buccaneers and Eagles. I agree. TCB. TCB in the house premium member Fantasy Bros. Discord. Hey,
Starting point is 00:20:28 first of all, my pickle hot take is that I hate them on burgers, but I love them by themselves. Like, I would rather just have like a whole dough pickle
Starting point is 00:20:38 but like if you put it on a burger, can't stand it. That's interesting. I have like an opposite take of like tomatoes. Like put tomatoes on like a sandwich or something and I'm like, let's go.
Starting point is 00:20:49 But like eating a tomato, tomato, like sliced up tomato. I'm not a fan of like tomatoes without a product with it. So that's interesting take. Okay. Seth and Debrough completely just incepted our episode here. Just pickle straight in. But I appreciate your take.
Starting point is 00:21:04 What else you got, TCB? All right. So I am basically guaranteed to make the playoffs. So this week isn't super relevant for me. But I want to make sure my roster is set up as best as possible for the playoffs. So, I guess two parts real quick. On the receiver side, I have Brian Thomas. Is he dropable?
Starting point is 00:21:28 There's guys like Jaden Higgins, 80 Mitchell. I don't know if there's somebody out there who you think would be worthy of dropping BTJ for. Yeah, let's stop there for a second. I think it's like an overarching thing. I think he is dropable. There's a part of not wanting to probably drop him, you know, for if things start to click, but it's just never happening. But I'll tell you this, I have Adnan Mitchell above Brian Thomas, like, in a different tier for this week. So, like, I just, I understand why you could hold on to him, but I am okay with cutting Brian Thomas for Adnan Mitchell.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Erickson, would you do such a thing? I think I would. The thing with Brian Thomas Jr. that is concerning for me is can he put together back-to-back good weeks? Right? Because right now, you don't really feel confident playing him. So he has to show you something one week. And then you're like, okay, let me put him in my lineup. He doesn't have any good games back-to-back all year. So I'm concerned that it's one thing to have him as, okay, he's my wide receiver for I just need someone to play versus I'm starting. I'm starting. starting in my fantasy championships because he's coming off a good game and then he face plans because that's kind of what he's been doing most of the season. And you look at the schedule, week 16, he's at Denver.
Starting point is 00:22:55 That's terrible. Week 17 at Indianapolis. And by then, SOSGuard is probably back for the Colts. So are you going to start in either of those weeks? If the answer is no, then get the sky off my roster. I'd also argue that Brian Thomas and Adam Mitchell have a ballot. the same floor and Adai Mitchell has a higher upside right now especially after last week so that's why I would make that move the thing the only thing with Mitchell is Garrett Wilson can still come back
Starting point is 00:23:24 and that would significantly hamper what he would do on a week to week basis so just if if it took him out of the lineup more than METI I'm not sure that METI might be the one that gets smacked a little bit like because they're still throwing the ball to METI you just he can't get every week just someone's not catching up but that's a good point yeah it's a good point yeah just run a layer in it it may not it may not be like mechie is the answer to your brian thomas junior problem like that's the only thing i'm just trying to add here that um this week get if i got placed him on this week i want to play miche if you want to go week by week that that's an approach i would and i think going week by week yeah is definitely uh was there another question yeah um it's a one qb league
Starting point is 00:24:06 but i have both drake may and joe burrow well obviously i'm starting burrow this week But when it gets to the playoffs, should I drop Burrow for one of those guys? Like, am I ever going to start Burrow over May or should I keep rostering both guys? I would hold on to Burrow because A, you could play elite streaming matchups. B, the other, like the idea of dropping Burrow to keep Brian Thomas makes me sick.
Starting point is 00:24:38 And then C, you don't throw back an elite quarterback into the pool for someone else to pick up and play against you. That's, I would be too, again, someone wants to play Brian Thomas Jr. against me, be my guest. Yeah, knock yourself out. I don't want to. Brian Thomas beats me because I cut him, like, okay, like, that's fine. But yeah, I don't want to throw Joe Burrow going out against, you know, whatever, the Steeler. I don't know what the matchup is.
Starting point is 00:25:02 I almost rather, I get it. And I would like, I'd rather start Drake May every single week. And even if Joe Burrow outscores him every single week, I would still feel better about that than throwing Burrow back into the point. player pool and having him his points score for somebody else again if he's going to be scoring points at least it's on my bench and not in someone else's starting roster dude can you believe in a 16 team keeper league i acquired now a little caveat it's a three sport league so there's multiple sports but i acquired drake may for a NFL second round pick and i believe an MLB second round pick so for all intensive purposes not a lot i got drake may in a
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Starting point is 00:26:08 All right. What's up, baby Billy? I got a couple questions and maybe like an observation, I guess, about Monday night. So I have Hampton because I got Henderson on by and my backup is Coram and Alger. So I'm going to hope that Hampton goes off. But I was wondering if Herbert might take off running more with the hand injury to maybe open up some space because you can't, you know, stay back there with the bad offensive line. I think he runs less. I think he runs less, to be honest with you, because you're more susceptible to, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:46 two defenders coming in and smacking that hand. That's my take. Do you feel different, Erickson? I think the only way that they can help protect Justin Herbert is to obviously run the football and just quick passes, right? Quick passes, yeah. Where you can't, you're not putting him in a situation where he has to then worry about protecting the football,
Starting point is 00:27:07 but protecting his hand. I mean, put yourself in Justin Herbert shoes. Are you going to be looking to scramble and run around when your hand is like exposed, right? Because you're protecting the football, not your hand, which is on the other side. So, and everyone on the defense knows you're playing with a broken hand. Oh, helmets. Helmets are going straight into the side. They're just going down to the hand for sure.
Starting point is 00:27:29 They're going to try to hit his hand. Like, so it's a really tough situation. I'm, again, it's just like Harbaugh, Greg Roman. Like, they got their cut work out for them. But another benefit would be Hampton in the short passes. He could potentially be more involved as long as he's out there. So that's our take. What else?
Starting point is 00:27:46 If anything, it's like just Quinn John, not Quinn Johnson week in any way, shape, or form. No, never was. You can barely trust him when Herbert was healthy and functioning. This is just a no, no flies on for. Agreed. Yeah, I was just wondering that because, you know, I figure he won't run like Jackson Dart and just get smacked every time. I thought he might be a little smarter and take some slides if he could.
Starting point is 00:28:10 But my questions were, so somebody dropped Mike Evans, and luckily I picked them up and I'm on the verge of the playoffs. And I have Olavé as my starter. And then my other receivers would be Devante Smith, Watson, Pittman, worthy. And I believe that's it. And I could put one as a receiver, two, and one as a flex. Am I starting Evans if he's good to go this weekend? I'm not, but I would want to play him next week.
Starting point is 00:28:42 I think it would be limited. But it might be a touchdown. I think you just had two good of options. If you can throw Olavé, Devontas Smith, and I think you had one other in there. I'd just rather play it a little bit safer and then let Evan. I hope Evans is active this week.
Starting point is 00:28:56 And I think they'll do exactly what they did with Godwin, limited snaps. Let him get that out of his system. And then next week he can start to go. So that's my approach. Yeah, because if I make the playoffs, then sorry, go ahead. No, no, no, no, I was going to just say with Welsh, it's just, we have a litmus test of guys coming back, the receivers, Godwin, right? Came back from an injury, they slow played them.
Starting point is 00:29:17 It would probably make sense that they do the same thing with their other veteran wide receiver coming off. Again, not the same type of injury, but still an injury regardless. I mean, Mike Evans, I think you're hoping he just does the one-one-one thing where he has one cat for one yard that just happens to be a touchdown. But it's not enough to warrant putting them over those other guys that you had. Do you say there was, was there one more? Yeah, I'm just hoping I make the playoffs so then I could use them next week when the playoffs starting. That could help me repeat. But my last question was, I have Ertz and Joanne Johnson as tie end because I've been streaming.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Who would you lean towards this weekend? Jawan for me. Yeah, especially if Alave is out even more so. But if not, I'm still Joanne Johnson. If, now, if Jane Daniels was active, that activates Ertz. It's like a Power Ranger, you know, it's like, and he's good to go. But, you know, I mean, Marita did nice this week, but he's not going to have 50 pass attempts every single week. So go with Joanne Johnson and go with my playbook.
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Starting point is 00:33:50 A little bit better. Yeah, what's up? Pickles are the bomb? And pickles are not the bomb, but okay. That's okay. It's more team pickle, and that is like, that's the world. That's understandable. Oh, Father Man, we're having a.
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Starting point is 00:34:25 We'll answer your question. Sorry, Father, man. You were, you were rough. I assume there wasn't a Thursday question in there. But that was, that was rough to hear. But we'll, all right, he's typing. We'll get to the next one. And then we'll go back to Father man.
Starting point is 00:34:38 In the meantime, Kyle. Kyle. Hey, how's it go, boys? What's up, Kyle? I am team pickle, but I am anti-team onion. Also, very, very anti-union I am as well. I mean, I like any powder and stuff like that, but like the onion crunch, it gets, it grows. Couldn't agree more.
Starting point is 00:34:57 All right. So one question is I have secured the pretty much everything, but I just want to crush this person so that they know I'm dominant. I assume. Are they your best friend or your biggest enemy? It's one of them. Cousin. Ah, okay, yeah, so family. That goes along.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Co-manager in the next league that I'm going to ask about. Excellent. So, yeah, so obviously T got rocked pretty good in the head the other week. And I'm looking for an auto sub possibly. And my options aren't necessarily that great because I kind of traded around a little bit to get CMC, to go along with Jonathan Taylor to really get my running backs set. So my options on the bench. are going to be Cooper Cup, Chris Godwin, and then I have Loveland,
Starting point is 00:35:48 and it's a one-point tight-end premium at half-point PPR. So if T-K can't go out of those three, would you think? That is a super good question, because I'm a little bit more Godwinny, though if Evans and McMillan are both active, I kind of don't like it. Yeah, that's where I was. Loveland's a pretty good floor, especially with like a Dune's-A kind of banged up a little bit. And if you're getting a premium, I think I would lean Loveland in that. What do you think, Erickson?
Starting point is 00:36:15 Yeah, I would do Loveland if the receivers come back for Tampa Bay. If not, then I would probably just play Godwin. Yes, agreed with that. If both McMillan and Godwin are out, or Evans are out, then I'm going to go with team Godwin as well just because of the target share. What was the other question? The other question in the league I co-managed with them. We have gotten really lucky with our drafting and also we're just better than everyone.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Our receivers that we have to choose from are. Chase Pickens. Yeah, it's kind of, kind of a murder's row here. Chase Pickens, Sun God's obviously a little rusty, but that's Thursday question. We don't talk about Thursday. We don't talk about Thursday. Good call. AJ Brown is also on the bench and Nico Collins.
Starting point is 00:36:58 So, oh, and we have Rishi Rice and the Flex. So yeah, we're, and this is one point PPR. Would you take, so we have right now starting, we have Chase Pickens, Rishie, and AJ Brown. Would you swap out AJ Brown or anyone for Nico Collins, possibly? Erickson does not like
Starting point is 00:37:23 Nico Collins this week. I don't hate, but I probably stick AJ Brown with how he's been getting involved. And I don't love how the Texans, like, we're gone from the days where Nico gets 12 to 15 targets. You know what I mean? It's just like, it's Higgins, it's Hutchinson. They're spreading
Starting point is 00:37:39 the ball out. Colin still gets like the big force of it but i think i probably go it's a tougher matchup i would go with a j brown in that spot and i'm guessing you're the same erics no not actually i have nico ahead of a j brown so does ecr so i mean use the ranks right like they're there for a reason i get it's tight but i think look zegals offense is just it's hard to trust i know a j brown's been bouncing back the last couple weeks, but a lot of mouths to feed still. Nico's still the guy in this Chiefs offense, or excuse me, in this Texan's offense, so it's close, but Nico's projected higher.
Starting point is 00:38:21 He's higher in ECR, so that's, I'd pick one. That's who I would pick. All right. Let's really quickly pick up, because I think Father Man typed. Where the hell is it? Why am I? Oh, complete upside play have to win to get in, Vali or Shakir, full P. FI.R flex spot.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Yeah, I want to say. I kind of want to say Valey, but it's definitely Shakir. Yeah, the Vailet was very, someone that has been pumping the Vailai stock for a two long. Yeah, you don't seem very excited about it. You're like, Vail, Bailey. I was, I was pumped when he had a breakout game last year, but then I rewatched the game and it was almost all in the fourth. He had no catches in the first half.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Look, that kind of scares me when you think, oh, it was all. last fourth quarter comeback drive, that concerns me. So, it's different, it's, I'd say it changes a little bit of a lot of things not playing,
Starting point is 00:39:21 but like, I guess Shakir's super boom-bust, but dude, I mean, we just talked about it at the top, right? This game could, this game could have 70 points.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Shakir is inconsistent, but he's by far the most consistent Bill's wide receiver. So I know that the Bengals have been good against wide receiver ones this year. Just really weird quirk. If you just look at like matchups and day,
Starting point is 00:39:41 data that the Bengals are good against number one wide receivers, but Shakir plays the slot. So it's probably getting more Keon Coleman, getting DJ Turner. He gets erased. We don't really care about that. So I think Shakir is probably going to be the best play. Boom. That's how it rolls. Royalty is about to join, whether it's Twitch or Discord.
Starting point is 00:39:59 You have heard the great Dredis. And Dredis is back. What's up, Dredis? Hey, guys. How are you? Peachy. How are you? I'm still a little sick, so you'll have to excuse my voice.
Starting point is 00:40:10 I'm glad you're feeling better, Erickson. Thank you, thank you. Were you guys hanging out? Erickson, do you get everybody sick? Now my wife got me sick. Really? It's her fault. It's always someone's fault.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Like my kids, it's always their fault. Knock on wood. I probably shouldn't say it. I have not gotten smacked this year. And I know my wife even says and I'm like, I don't know. Like I feel like it's coming, but I have not got. So I'm glad you're feeling better. Hope you're feeling better, Dredas.
Starting point is 00:40:36 What do you got? Definitely anti-pickle, by the way. was being ganged up on on Twitch as the only pickle hater. I can't even eat it if it's touched the pickle. I can't. It's disgusting. I can't. Chick-fil-A puts the pickle on the bun. I can tell. I can't do it. Yeah, I've agreed.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Okay, I have two questions. They're just really quick. For my flex, if London plays this week, or if he doesn't, him, Harvey or Wattle? If, well, it's London. Sorry, half PPR. It's London no matter what if he plays. That's her for sure. if he doesn't play I'm going to go
Starting point is 00:41:14 Waddle over Harvey What are you going to do Erickson? Yeah, same for me Waddle. Okay. Really? Even with his like five, six points the last couple
Starting point is 00:41:24 weeks? Jet's secondary this week. That's true. That's true. I want to say Harvey, but we did this a lot on the RB episode. It's like you want to say Harvey,
Starting point is 00:41:36 but he's just not doing, we're not getting any big explosive stuff. Like he now has the opportunity. And it's like, where's the volume? Where are the big plays? It's just they're not using him in that capacity. So I would, I'd just rather the number one receiver against the Jets defense.
Starting point is 00:41:49 But there you go. Yeah. Thanks. The second one is, am I crazy for wanting to start strange against the always giving Colts to tight ends over Kelsey and Houston? No, I think in the tight end episode,
Starting point is 00:42:06 which I have no idea if it's even aired, Erickson, I think you may have presented this exact thing. that you like strange wasn't it you that like strange over kelsey yeah i i like him a lot this week the colts have been really bad against tight ends and something i was reading when i was writing up some of the betting stuff is he's like by far the most targeted receiver on the jaguars against zone coverage and what do i think the colts are going to do without their number one cornerback play more zone coverage right you can't play man when you don't have the right personnel to do so
Starting point is 00:42:39 So they're playing more zone. You're going to see more checkdowns underneath passes to Brent Strange. And he's been kind of a monster since he came back the last couple weeks. So tough, brutal matchup for Kelsey, down offensive linemen for the Chiefs. Yeah, I would play Strange. Yeah, it's a great question, Dredeson. Thank you for the thank you for the thank you. Yeah, that was, I mean, he's five in ECR this week.
Starting point is 00:43:04 So it's like, A, it's not crazy to be putting Brent Strange in your lineups. but I don't think Kelsey belongs in the tier of like you can't ask the question. That's McBride. That's Bowers. Like you just don't, you don't even think about anybody else. Kelsey's in that tier of like Ferguson or Gadsden was getting hot. It's like they're fine. But if you like the matchup, I'm getting 100% go in favor of Britain Strange.
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Starting point is 00:44:44 bit later, so probably go a couple more. What is this? Mantakia. Mantechia. Did I say that right? Montecilla. Okay, good. 95% I did that. What's up? Nothing much. I have two questions. One of it is theory. So I have a lot of leagues that I am locked in for buys. So I'm trying to get ahead for defenses for 16 and 17. And I am really hammering Casey for Week 16 against Tennessee and then 17 for New Orleans against Tennessee. But I also have Detroit available in a couple of them that are going against the Vikings. Do you have any preference on defenses for Week 16 and 17 and kind of clearing my bench where
Starting point is 00:45:31 I have a little extra, like a fourth or fifth wide receiver and I'm just wanted to dump them to get these defenses lined up. This has been maybe one of the most popular questions we have had in the last week and a half. I feel like in every live, there are like every fourth question is about not the coming week's defense. It is about the preparation for week 17, 16 or 17 that are throwing in there. So what do you think, Ericson?
Starting point is 00:45:57 What's your take on A, the theory idea? And Manticke, I think you got all your question. And if not, let me know, I can bring you back up. But I think your theory was holding the multiple defenses in preparation and getting running some of the bench. And then what do you think about the names itself? I mean, I like the Chiefs against the Titans, I think, as he said that they were playing. So, I mean, that seems pretty obvious to me. That's a defense you want to have.
Starting point is 00:46:22 I would say the Lions against the Vikings is okay. That's a road game, I believe. And we already saw the Vikings beat the Lions already this year. So that's like just kind of one thing to kind of keep in mind But yeah, I think you're ahead of the game here I would say they don't like over think it a little bit You know what the good matchups are right at this point We don't need to reinvent the wheel
Starting point is 00:46:50 Who's playing the Titans who are playing these terrible offices Who's playing the Raiders? She's playing these terrible offensive lines Those are the defenses that you want to target So yeah I think that they're set up well here And then I'm reviting inviting you back up, Manticke because you had one more question. So accept it.
Starting point is 00:47:06 There we go. Perfect. So I have one league that I'm in the playoffs for right now, and I need to win to solidify it. But I have the biweek from got an awful where I have four of my main players on five. Yep. So I have a situation where I have marks in my flex, which I don't love. I have Hampton and my I are. And then I also have London who's injured.
Starting point is 00:47:35 And I'm trying to decide if I need to hold out for marks. They also have like Franklin and Godwin on the waiver wire. And I have Tesla that I have a weird thing, but we're not talking about Thursday. Yep. But I'm just trying to. I need kind of a high flyer on my flex. And I don't want to have a dud with marks on Sunday night. Well, I think I think Hampton would probably be the option I think we're looking at.
Starting point is 00:48:01 but do you have to cut someone like Marks to bring him up? Is that the problem? No, I would. I probably cut Henry. I'm holding Henry because I have May, so I was doing a little stack because I lost craft earlier. And you have another tight end? I do.
Starting point is 00:48:18 I have Duan Johnson in, which they're pretty similar right now. So it wouldn't be that big of a drop if I dropped him. Yeah, I would cut one of the tight ends and I would bring up Hampton as the flex on the upside. I think that's what I would end up to. I mean, there's some decent, sounds like a couple decent guys in the wire. What do you think about that, though, Erickson?
Starting point is 00:48:36 That's perfect. I mean, Hampton's going to play this week. They said he's playing. Well, oh, did they? I mean, the last thing I saw is like he is positioned, he's looking good to play. I didn't hear official like he's in. I mean, I guess he's technically on the injured reserve, but, I mean, the expectation is he's playing this week.
Starting point is 00:48:53 And I would definitely play him over what he marks. I wouldn't think twice about that. And to your point about dropping Hunter Henry, it feels really weird. after he's had these two, like, really strong games, but he's on a biweek this week. They play Buffalo, week 15. Buffalo is one of the toughest matchups for tight ends.
Starting point is 00:49:09 And as much as I love Hunter Henry, he's not of a level of tight end that can rise above it. So you're almost kind of like dropping a landmine where it's, hey, oh, Hunter Henry's available, someone picks him up, doesn't realize they're facing Buffalo,
Starting point is 00:49:22 and he tanks your lineup that week. So there are a couple better matchups for Henry after week 15. So that would be reason why. you want to hold on to him, but to the listener's point, or the caller's point, you're going to get pretty similar production from Duon Johnson. So I think that would be the move if you have to drop somebody.
Starting point is 00:49:42 Agreed. Prezzi. Presid in the house. Sup. I think we've had Prezzi before. You have to accept it. Accept it to come up on the show. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Sold. Three. Two. you can re-raiser. Oh, you made it. Oh, no, I booted Prezie right as they came up. Hold on, yeah, yeah, yeah, there you go. Literally, I've never seen that before.
Starting point is 00:50:08 I hit X, and then you came up on the screen. I've never seen that before. What's up, dude? Sorry, about that. I'm currently actively working, so I'm scrambling to grab my phone. Real quick, I just had a question. I'm in a league that's their playoffs start this week. So I'm in a weird position.
Starting point is 00:50:27 and of course I get the league behemoth who's got Bejohn, Ashton, Janty, Pooka, and JSN. Am I crazy for wanting to start somebody like Tyrod Taylor over Joe Burrow and Darren Waller over Goddard just for the upside? Yeah, what was the second? I mean, what was the second one? Wait, why does Tyra Taylor have been upset in Joe Burrow? I think he's trying to say like you want to take a quote,
Starting point is 00:50:55 like, is your logic? If Chase sucks, then you take the other guy who isn't scoring points. Is that like, am I making sense how I'm saying that? Yeah, he doesn't want to start Burrow because the other guy has Chase, hoping that Chase sucks and then that internally makes Burrow suck. But I, there's, there's no multiverse, like Dr. Strange that there's 50 million reality. There isn't one reality where I would start Tyra Taylor over Joe Burrow to even save the universe. So that one, no. What was the second one? I don't think I caught it.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Waller over Godder. Yeah, like I said, I'm in a position where, like, if I want to have any shot of winning, I've got to try crazy things anyway. Otherwise, like, my season's done. Yeah. Gotcha. I got what you're going. Definitely, definitely not the Borough one. And I feel bad because now Tower Taylor's going to have seven touchdowns and Burroughs can have 12 picks and whatever. But like, there's just, I can't reiterate enough how much I would never do that. But the Waller one's perfect. Waller could have three catches for three touchdowns all the upside in the world and Goddard is a who cares. So I don't think that one's even a question, but yeah, there's no chance. Would you consider the borough one under that logic? Yeah, I guess I missed the part with
Starting point is 00:52:14 that the other person having Chase. Yeah. I mean, I'd definitely do Waller over Goddard, like you said. Yeah, no doubt. I think I had Waller just ranked ahead of Goddard anyway. So I think he has more upside this week. It's interesting. If, because, Because can Burrow have, like, a monster game without Chase? Like, probably not, especially if T. Higgins, like, doesn't play. But if Higgins does play, then it's definitely, like, in the range of outcomes, your burrow has a monster game. Higgins catches the touchdown.
Starting point is 00:52:40 Yeah, how sick would you, how sick would you be if you didn't start Burrow? And T. Higgins goes off and Jemar Chase is shut out. That's what I mean. Yeah. Yeah, but we still, like, don't have, like, confirmation of T. Higgins playing. So I guess maybe, like, maybe you could Galaxy Brain if T. against doesn't play, then you would consider doing tie route over Joe Burrow. But I guess I lean with you where it's like, if Joe Burrow scores the most points,
Starting point is 00:53:02 then that's my best chance of winning. Yeah, it's your bet. Like, Tyra Taylor could just do absolutely nothing. Worst case, if Chase goes off, it's at the benefit of your player as well. So it's like you just have to do that. The Darren Waller is a good one. And by the way, I don't think I realize that Prezzi has what I'm told, is this a beer, Seth Wolcock AI image?
Starting point is 00:53:23 I didn't really. That is Seth. I thought it looked. I thought it looked like Seth. Yeah. It definitely is Sethy in there with a cowboy hat, just holding a beer. So, all right, cool. We're just doing that now. It's a keeper league, by the way.
Starting point is 00:53:37 So, yeah, you keep rolling. You keep rolling, Prezy. All right, a couple more here before we get out. Red beard. Red beard. What's up? What up, y'all? Y'all doing all right?
Starting point is 00:53:48 Doing good, dude. How are you doing? Yeah, not too bad. Two quick ones. First one, if Kincave played. Are we doing Kincaid or Ronda Gadsden this week? Oh, baby. Ken freaking Cade.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Absolutely. Bengals, stank. Absolute stank against tight ends. Bogman has King Cade out four this week. I put Kincaid at 11. He's limited. I know. He might play this week.
Starting point is 00:54:13 I think he's going to, I think he could play. So I've already moved him up to 11. So he's a tight end one to me. I am so out on Gadsden this week. It's not funny. I think I have him down at 16 right now. So no thanks. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:54:25 The second one is a trade question in a dynasty league. I get Amin Ra and Rashid Rice for Bucky and Malik neighbors. Ooh, Amin Ra and who? And you trade away Bucky and Malik neighbors. Ooh. What do you think about that, Erick, Erick? I think. like
Starting point is 00:54:52 I think I want the Bucky Malik side Rice and Why does my brain not work Who the hell is the other one Rice and Amman Ross St. Brown Jesus right I mean yeah it's too great receivers Or as I like to call him
Starting point is 00:55:08 I'm on Amon Brown Saint I was called out on the rank show We're calling in by ass Um I don't know man I guess like in a rebuilding Like you can't Okay, you cannot trade for Bucky and Malik
Starting point is 00:55:22 and give those pieces away if you are competing right now. If you're completely out of it, I mean, I think Malik could be the best of all of those. Yeah. Let me ask you something. So you think this is pretty tight, right? You think this is a pretty even deal. Both sides, like this is why kind of struggling.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Pretty tight. I guess for me, it's, I just still have in the back of my mind all this rice off the field stuff. stuff that just constantly seems to be part of his profile. So if that's the tiebreaker, and to your point, if Neighbors is healthy, he's probably the highest valued player. When we're talking about this next year, this could be a clean sweep towards Malik Neighbors with Jackson Dart.
Starting point is 00:56:08 Mike Tomlin's the head coach of the Giants. We love it. It's awesome. So I will lean on the Neighbors' Bucky side here. But I agree it is really close, and I would not poo anyone that thinks otherwise because Rice by B'd be. the guy that's actually has the most value because right now he has the most value out of these four guys. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:25 All right. Two more. Cordy. What's up? Can you guys hear me? Yeah, we got you. Travis. I had two quick questions.
Starting point is 00:56:34 So for the Monday game, for a fleck, I was asking if we should start McConkey or Hampton. I go McConkey. Erickson. Got it, got it. Yeah, I agree. Okay. McCawney. Cool.
Starting point is 00:56:51 And for QB's, I may on a buy this week. So I've got love and I have Herbert. Love. Easy love for me. No Herbert for me. Love. Love in you. It's easy because you're beautiful.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Doot and do do do do. Stan. You remember that now? South Park made that famous. What's up, Stan? Hey, how are you guys doing today? We're doing good, dude. good how you doing i'm doing fantastic i'm sitting uh 12 and 1 a lot of that help came from
Starting point is 00:57:25 andrew throughout the year uh nice you know i i kind of put myself into a bad position this week i'm not necessarily worried about winning um i really don't have to uh next person is i believe nine and four um so uh i don't need a win but i need a flex uh did a last minute trade got rid of my bench depth. Somebody offered me, who was it, Amos St. Brown, and we're not talking Thursday, so I can't play them today, or my Trayon and Zay Flowers. So that kind of took my depth the way on my bench. So there's a few flexes that are available right now. DJ Moore was just dropped today, Rodriguez, and Jaden Higgins. So who am I picking up to put in flex? What do you think, Erickson? You are his champion.
Starting point is 00:58:16 Audrey is. Ew. Even over DJ Moore? You want to play D.C. Moore? I won't play any of them. Can you pick up Adnye Mitchell? No, I play Chris Rodriguez because he also has a good schedule rest of the season. He gets Cowboys and Giants.
Starting point is 00:58:30 All right. Erickson's taking you to the Promise Land. You listen to him. That's your odd. As an early Christmas present, Dredas had one more. So if Dredis asks, we have to comply. Well, you don't have to. I appreciate it. I told you.
Starting point is 00:58:43 It's Twitch Discord royalty. I mean, you're like, like it would be interesting to do like the characters, the non-fantasy pros content people of the you have to be top three in the character pool, right? Who else would be on that? Maybe Dev? Dev, Fatherman. Father man, Dev. Yeah, yeah, it's, it's, I think it's, I think it's Dev, Fatherman, and you. I think you guys are like in the Mount Rushmore of, uh, of our personality. So what you got? Um, I have to be bogs. week to make playoffs important okay and are out of bounds league so I need get your take between
Starting point is 00:59:23 starting shuck or tie rod though the only thing I want to point out Bogman really like Shuck and he picked Shuck over Tyrod Taylor so you he's wrong I think he could be but you could also start the guy that he loves over him or he could be planting a Trojan horse out there to so attack you Dreddis by saying yeah I like Shuck more than anybody I'm probably totally what he's doing it could be yeah we did it on in this league so I don't know we've seen Tyler Shuck go against the blitz no point out now got against the Blitz Todd Bowles all that guy does is Blitz he doesn't know how else to play defense so I think Terrat Taylor is easily apply here he rushes he has building that chemistry with AD Mitchell.
Starting point is 01:00:16 John Metchie, he squeezes the football, will be in good shape. He's got to be Taylor, dolphins defense. They're playing at home. It's going to be Jets' money line two weeks in a row. It's my best bet last week. Best bet this week.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Jets on the money line against Tua outdoors? Tua outdoors in December. Dude, full... Can I play the under? Can I play the under on that game? Full prediction, Jets. Get an interception this week. Their first of the season.
Starting point is 01:00:42 Ooh. What can... what's the Oz of that Go a pick No is it really Hold on I want to look Interceptions
Starting point is 01:00:51 To where is this stupid game We're doing this live It is plus 109 On a certain book Dude what about this Wait hold on It's almost 6 to 1 for two interceptions For Tua
Starting point is 01:01:06 Really? Could that be the funniest bet of all time Yeah because the thing with interceptions We know how it work It's a pile once you throw one floodgates are open oh here's a good parlay
Starting point is 01:01:19 cam ward and two both to throw an interception it's three to one almost three and a half to one is that the best of all time it's to be a fun prop show it is going to be a fun prop show make sure you guys join us
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