The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Go Low - 2026 Masters Reaction: Rory McIlroy, Scottie Scheffler, Justin Rose, Cameron Young

Episode Date: April 13, 2026

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Starting point is 00:02:34 How are we doing? Roy McElroy. Make sure, obviously, subscribe. to the channel. We like going live after these majors and after these big tournaments. And at the beginning of the week, I did not imagine I would be sitting here
Starting point is 00:02:51 in Northern California, where I currently am, actually my brother's office, Jared Allen back there on this side, I got for him years ago when I interned for the Chiefs. But I just, that was a thrill ride.
Starting point is 00:03:07 The guy essentially played back-to-back, years and did the same thing on Sunday where your jaw is just hitting the floor going, I can't believe what I am witnessing. So we'll talk about that. Some highlights. I wrote some notes on my phone. I was at a family gathering over the last couple of days.
Starting point is 00:03:26 I had a wedding yesterday, but just tried to not miss a shot of this tournament. And it lives up to the hype every year. It really does. It's a special event. And Roy McElroy has really elevated it. So let's just, let's start with Rory, who, I don't know if this tops the iconic nature of last year, given that it was his first green jacket and given that it went to, you know, a sudden death playoff against one of his Ryder Cup teammates who had already lost in a sudden death playoff years previously to Sergio Garcia.
Starting point is 00:04:02 But I feel like this is like one B. Like to me, sometimes like, well, this is Tiger's best masters or the second best masters. pretty easy to rank it. This feels it's not number one, but it's definitely not number two. And I think if we were just looking to describe Roy McElroy, and this is what makes, I think, him such a great TV character as an athlete,
Starting point is 00:04:25 is you have no clue what's coming. It is truly this roller coaster ride of exhilaration that any single swing, you know, there's not out of bounds on this course, right? So you're not going to pump it and have to re-tee. But you can hit the water, you can hit the trees, you can hit it way over greens or short of greens. And at any moment over the course of the last, honestly, three days. And I think what makes this tournament for Rory such a thrill ride, and I did a pot with Colin,
Starting point is 00:05:00 if this was, you know, like when a baseball pitcher, like when Nolan Ryan or Pedro Martinez was on, like they were unhittable. the top pitchers Scoobool whoever the history of times Strassburg Scherzer Verlander when they're on like in their prime
Starting point is 00:05:17 no one's touching them like they're going nine 12ks one hit mowing guys down but the best pitchers what make them pretty special is like when they got their C stuff they can still go like
Starting point is 00:05:30 one run seven innings five hits and just handle business I thought Rory like had a C plus game, C game. Even on Friday, when he went low, he did not hit a fairway on the par five. He was punching out of all these crazy angles. He's making these crazy up and down birdies. He chipped in on 17 on Friday from, I don't know, 50 yards. And he shot 65. But if you watch him on Thursday, he was good. Friday, he was good relative to. to a score, but like Rory 65 and Scotty 65 yesterday? Or would Cam Young shoot? Cam Young shot 65
Starting point is 00:06:16 yesterday? They did not look the same. But that's what makes this tournament so special. I just had a buddy text me who's a big golfer. And he's like, this is the only major of the four where Rory could have played like that and still been the champion. And historically, that's true. You don't, Tiger didn't have his A game in all the masters. I bet if we went back and broke down some of Phil's wins. He didn't have his A-plus game because you can spray it a little bit here. There are a ton of birdie holes,
Starting point is 00:06:45 and there were so many moments that this is what happened last year when you're like, did he really just, did he really just three putt from right there? And then two holes later, he's back-to-back birdies. I thought, like, the defining, I guess it's not defining moment, but one of the defining moments
Starting point is 00:07:04 of the last 36 holes for Rory was on Saturday when he comes out of the blocks, let me pull it up. He comes out of the blocks on Saturday, and he bogeys one. He doesn't par two,
Starting point is 00:07:20 and you're like, God, he's falling apart. And Cam Young is just going nuclear. Scottie's already gone nuclear. And you're like, these guys are coming, bro. Patrick Reed at Birdie 1, birdie 2, birdie 3.
Starting point is 00:07:33 And then Rory steps up to hole through. and he drives the green. It was just like every single guy who's just hitting bombs has a 30-foot chip up the hill on hole three. And Rory, when it leaves his club, because he had just got off to a weird start, you're like, where did he hit this thing? And he's kind of watching it, but he kind of does his lean. And it rolls to the right side of the hill and kind of comes back.
Starting point is 00:07:56 And you're like, he's got like a 15, 20-foot eagle putt. And to me, that was the defining moment of the last two days. is every single time that that damn was not just about to break, but I mean, flood Rory's house and ruin his tournament. He would come back with a birdie. He would make a big putt. He would hit a big shot, especially today. He pumped some drivers in huge spots right down the pipe.
Starting point is 00:08:25 And I think there's an element of mental fortitude and mental toughness that he was able to carry over from 2000. and 25. Because I don't think if, let's say last year didn't happen, and Sheffler wins or Fleetwood or just some random rows just wins. And Rory just finishes like 10th. Solid tournament, but like the previous decade, just kind of a non-competitive top five or top 10.
Starting point is 00:08:53 He 100% does not win this week. No fucking chance. Because when he had a six-shot lead, one, this is a unique tournament to have a big lead. because there are so many birdie in Eagle holes. Right? Like a U.S. Open, let's say you had a four-shot lead going into Saturday. It's not that big.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Because at any moment, you could double a hole. And if you double a hole, someone else behind you, birdies a hole, all of a sudden your lead goes from four to two or four to one. That's kind of the masters. But there's also an ebb and flow to the order of the holes. So if a guy's ahead of you, and all of a sudden, Rory is two back, three back. I don't think he ever finished he was two back,
Starting point is 00:09:34 but at one point in time of the day, he was nine, and Rose was 11. Rose is multiple holes ahead of him. So if all of a sudden he birdies one of the holes that's not like a lock birdie for Rory, if you burdy nine or you birdie 10 and you're then go from two to one shot back and that guy's two shots ahead of you, it's not a true two shot lead. So I'm watching it with my wife's aunts and a bunch of her family. and you got to be careful about that when you're consuming it because you're so caught up in Rory,
Starting point is 00:10:07 who I think CBS, I mean, these last two years, I don't know if the ratings will top last year just because of the storyline of Rory winning it. But in terms of the on the edge of your seat excitement about nobody, and I would imagine his father would agree with this. I would imagine his caddy Harry would agree with this. And I didn't even imagine a little part of him. Doesn't know what's coming. Say this for Rory, I don't believe he's scared. I don't believe that he messes up. I don't even know if he's nervous.
Starting point is 00:10:40 I just wonder, even on 18, it's like, bro, got a couple shot lead, maybe just hit, you probably hit your five iron, 225 yards. Why don't we just pump a five iron out there? And then pump another six iron up to the green and just find a way to get an easy bogey.
Starting point is 00:10:58 It says like, fuck it. Give me the driver. And he pumps it almost into another hole. I mean, you see some bad shots on 18, right? Whether, I mean, most of them aren't hitting crazy hooks left. They're trying to cut that fade to lessen their approach distance. And some guys, like most of us, mortals, pump that thing into the trees. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:20 If most of us could clear that little sliver of blue sky and we hit a cut, we would be in the trees. and like, what are you doing? Sometimes to me, it's not, like I think this, like Vandervild. I see some of these guys, they get really fast and they're like, this guy, this guy's choking because he's just unraveling. And it engulfs the game where you think and you walk much more than you play. But if you just add up the time, you're over a ball and swinging relative to the time that you're walking throughout a whatever four and a half hour round,
Starting point is 00:11:54 the ratio is enormous on the side of walking, not actually playing. It's like football. A football game is whatever, three, three and a half, four hours, depending college or pro. But the actual game action, you know, I think people have done the math. It's like 12 or 13 minutes. Like, it's not that actual much action. And that's the thing with golf. Well, that's where it's in relation to like kicking or a batter in baseball. You get four A-Bs. So what's most of your day not hitting? Thinking about the A-Bs, especially if you're at D.H. You just sit there the whole time.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Like, God, this is not going well. So he's getting your own head. And Rory clearly is a deep thinker who was just immensely talented. And, you know, there is a Phil Mickelson, Jordan Speath element of unpredictability. And to me, that's the key to golf, right? Unless you're going to have this all time, like, I would obviously, if I could choose any lane, you would just choose, I would want to watch Tiger. Greatest player ever dominates everybody.
Starting point is 00:12:52 but even with Tiger in his heyday and part of it was the equipment, he could be a little unpredictable. Some of his most famous shots are around a tree at Pebble Beach, out of a bunker over a bush, over water at the Canadian Open. They're not all the most insane putts, the chip at the masters. Like part of Tigers, I would say mystique and legend, was the crazy shit he was doing. It wasn't just, oh, Tiger's hit an eight iron from 169, hit it three feet.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Yeah, all these guys can do that. Tiger, like Phil, even more on steroids, just their greatest shots are the craziest of shots because they found themselves in bananas, like places. You're like, you're not going to be there. Kepka, who was rattling off majors, like, was kind of boring. He just hit fairways, hit the middle. of greens, two-putt. Scotty is starting to become a little bit more thrilling,
Starting point is 00:13:56 but like, he can be kind of boring when he wins too. There is an element to, and Jordan definitely had this, and this is why Jordan became so famous in the mid-2010s. Now, Rory has more game than Jordan, right? More powerful, just got more in the tank. But he's got some of that, like, I don't know where this is going to go. And I don't know if he's going to make the right decision, which is the most relatable thing in golf. It's like, yeah, I, I don't know. I probably should lay up here, but you know, Hammy the hybrid, right? You know, I probably shouldn't go at this flag.
Starting point is 00:14:28 I got the entire green to my right, but I got that little sliver and I can fly that bunker and I'm going to do it. Like most of us just see pin, hit it at the pin, see the fairway, try to hit. That's not the way these guys play, but that's the way Phil play. That's the way Rory plays.
Starting point is 00:14:46 That's the way Smith play. Tiger actually did not play like that, but because he could be erratic off he just found himself having to do some crazy stuff. But Tiger was like a Belichick level tactician where there's a freelance element to Rory that just, I'm not even talking his story. I'm not talking his accomplishments or his history at this course. There is an element to Rory if you're just sitting on the couch and you don't know much about
Starting point is 00:15:16 him like personally, what he's like as a guy. If you're just watching the golfer, it is a, it is a, roller coaster. And if you can get a great player who's a roller coaster, that's as good a television as you can get. There was a reason in Tiger's heyday. In the 2000s, he was the most famous athlete, the most highly paid athlete. There was a reason Phil was drafting right off of them. Because Phil brought something to the table a little pizzazz that was just like, what did he just do? Because at the end of the day, like, Tiger wouldn't do the dumb thing. Orr would.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Rory would. Jordan would. Like, Scotty, not really. Even Scottie today, which is insane. He finished second in this tournament. It's just, like, the story so far of Scottie's year is he's one round away, right? If he just, instead of that 74 on Friday, he shoots like 71. He wins his tournament by multiple shots. Let's just say he plays well that day.
Starting point is 00:16:15 It shoots like 69. What if he runs away with this thing? You know, because I watched him yesterday, and Jason Sobel's my guy, anyone who's been listening to me for a while talking golf, he used to come on this show, he's the fucking man. He asked him a question, like, essentially what your round could have been on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:16:36 And I understand from Scotty's standpoint. I just shot 65 at Augusta. I'm actually within, if things get weird, striking distance of the defending champ, Roy McElroy, and he just called it like stupid question which I get
Starting point is 00:16:49 he shot 65 but I watched because the wedding wasn't until 5 in the afternoon Pacific standard time and so when we were flying I was watching Scotty's round for hour and a half on my phone he probably could have shot 61
Starting point is 00:17:01 he he looked like Tiger meets Arnold Palmer meets Jack in his probably but he missed a couple of butts it could have been really low really low and I just think Rory never felt like that the last couple days.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Like it never felt like, you know, Rory was just a couple shots away from shooting 64. Honestly, it felt like he was a couple shots away from shooting 78. And that's what makes this tournament. Because at the other two real majors, I know the PGA is a major, but the U.S. Open, which is extremely difficult, and the British Open, which at any moment the weather can play a part,
Starting point is 00:17:37 if you're playing like Rory just played, there's no chance you're winning. Because I get you have a six-shot lead, but he just his driver the first Friday Saturday looked like me or you
Starting point is 00:17:51 not in terms of the distance but he did not quite know where he was going and he was just pumping it into the trees well he's one of historically the greatest drivers of the golf ball
Starting point is 00:18:03 that to me clearly like I don't pretend to be some swing analyst but I played golf long enough to know like something's just the timing something's a little off and there it doesn't kill you because even at that course when you're a little off
Starting point is 00:18:18 this is what kind of saved them is at Augusta when you're pumping it all over the map on the par five is you're still birding on the par four is like you can still make a great four which he did sometimes but worst case scenario
Starting point is 00:18:30 you're going to get a bogey like you have to for the most part unless you pump it into the water which he did yesterday which caused him to get a double bogey double if you're going to get a double at Augusta and you're in the the top, I would say 10-ish, you're probably going to three-putt, right?
Starting point is 00:18:47 It's going to be one of those where you had to chip out, you're putting for par and you three-putt. That's, I would guess, if we pulled up the stats, that's the majority of double bogeys at Augusta. It's, it's either a water ball, you know, on 11 or one of the par fives or a three-put on one of the par-fours. And like, that's, it's, you're not going to get a crazy blow-up. So it's basically going to be guys birding more holes than you birdie. And Roy would go through these stretches where he would have a couple birdies. And you're like, God, it feels like he could just rattle off five straight.
Starting point is 00:19:25 And then randomly, like on hole three or four, like of that stretch, he would just pump one way over the green, way left of the green. Even early on, the jitters like, you know, today I think it was a whole three, it was a whole four. he pumps it way left on the par three. It's like, God, is he off again? And I don't know what he said in the press conference. I would be stunned if he said like, God, I just, I didn't have a great feel.
Starting point is 00:19:53 His greatest attribute over the last, really two days. But I would even go back to Friday when he built the big lead was just like head down, we're just going to keep swinging. There's enough out there. This course is scorable. There are so many par fives that I've proven to score well on here. There are par fours that if I do hit it straight off the tee, I'm going to have a short club in my hand.
Starting point is 00:20:16 But I am not playing well, you know, relative to typical master winners, right? Like last year, he had a weird, weird Sunday, but he played well in that golf tournament. Like, I just don't view him playing well. But that's the reality with this tournament is if you have the knowledge, which he's been going here for 15 plus years, you have the confidence I've won this before.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Like that's one thing with Justin Rose, who to me is one of the best players of like the Tiger Phil era. Honestly, he might be like a top 10 player of the Tiger Phil era. Right. I'm talking like Ernie Ells, DJ, Speeth, Kepka, obviously Rory. It's a Furek. Like he's one of the great players of that era. And he's got to be thinking,
Starting point is 00:21:08 when he goes to bed over the course of the month postmasters and just looking at the ceiling laying there, like maybe the golf gods don't want me to win this tournament. Because there was a moment today, you're like, he's going to do it. But this gets back to the, he's a couple holes ahead. It's like all Roy needs to do is birdie one of the holes that isn't viewed as like a lock birdie, a nine, a 10, and then you get to the part five.
Starting point is 00:21:34 It's like today. He didn't burdied in one of those holes, but then he knocks it stiff on 12. And when he burdies 12, you're like, okay, that's a big swing hole. Because he's got the two par fives coming up. He can birdie 14. He can birdie 17. And if he has a multiple shot lead, really with a couple holes to go,
Starting point is 00:21:53 he can just play somewhat conservative. But this gets back to the Mickelson thing. Even speed thing, they don't really have the conservative play mindset, which I respect. And as a fan of golf, as a fan of just entertainment, I'm glad. If Rory was, one, if he was more boring in terms of the way he played, he wouldn't be as popular.
Starting point is 00:22:19 But two, he wouldn't have as many wins, right? So it goes hand in hand. It's like, I remember watching this documentary on Arnold Palmer. And someone, like, you know, Arnold Palmer was a big investor in the Golf Channel in 1994. or 1993, one of those two years, they started the Golf Channel. And Arnold's, I don't know if it was like one of his holding companies or just him personally was investing a lot into it. And he's in a boardroom. And I mean, at the time in the mid-90s, Arnold Palmer's like, you know, pre-Tiger, one of the biggest businesses, him and Jack, and probably Greg Norman,
Starting point is 00:22:56 just in terms of a business entity themselves. So he's got a room of accountants and lawyers. And I would imagine, I've met a few business people that said, you've got to be careful sometimes. of listening to the advice of an accountant or a lawyer because at the end of the day, some of the great business decisions aren't just black and white. There's some gray area, right? And you've got to trust your gut.
Starting point is 00:23:18 It's like a great play call, a great golf shot, a great, you name it, right? Sometimes like, yeah, the numbers say, I shouldn't put this guy up in the eighth inning to pitch here, but I got a feeling. He's telling, I just, we talked about it before I'm going to go with my gut, Roche won some World Series going with his gut. And the accountant got up in the room and said, Arnold, I don't think this is a good idea.
Starting point is 00:23:45 And Arnold's response essentially was, well, hitting some of the shots I did from the trees over the course of my career weren't viewed as good ideas either. But if I hadn't done that and executed some of those shots when everyone thought I was nuts, none of us would be sitting in this boardroom. And I think sometimes, like, that's part of the deal here. You got to kind of go for glory.
Starting point is 00:24:12 And sometimes you go for glory, which he has in the past, and you get burned. And in golf, it's not a team sport. It's not like you get to, it's us, it's the group. It's just kind of you. You know, you're like Revis or Dion out there on an island. And you could feel it today. And the leaderboard, you know, with Scotty going nuts, Justin Rose, who felt, like, is this guy inevitable?
Starting point is 00:24:37 He's just going to win this thing. You know, Cam Young just kind of hovered. Sam Burns kind of gave it away early with a double and a bogey, I think, back-to-back holes. But no one will remember in 20 years that, like, yeah, he's kind of all over the map. He's like, oh, yeah, this guy, especially if he wins a couple more, which he easily could. It's like, yeah, Roy won four masters. No one remembers that, like, Peyton Manning didn't play that well in the Super Bowl. Right?
Starting point is 00:25:02 It's like, he's a Super Bowl champ. That's all it matters. And as time goes, people forget the details. Hell, we were a year removed when a week ago or two weeks ago, I threw on that Amazon Prime documentary on the final round last year on Rory. And you're sitting there going, this is way crazier than I remember. And there were times the last two days because you're thinking about last year
Starting point is 00:25:29 and there's so much content that came out about last year that you've consumed that. So it's fresh on your mind. You're going, this is kind of crazy like last year. And then he would lose the lead. And then he'd kind of gain it back. And it's like, listen, as someone that loves golf, but even if I didn't, I just love sports.
Starting point is 00:25:50 The entertainment value of the last two days was 10 out of 10 feels pretty strong, but like minimum nine, nine and a half. I think it was elite TV. because we all know what's on the line too. Right? It's like, yeah, he doesn't need to win he's already won. This guy's going to just blow it. And essentially he kind of did blow it
Starting point is 00:26:15 because the lead was gone. It had vanished. It was over. And then he would not only, at one point in time today, he's down a couple shots. And Rose feels like he could bury every hole coming in. And that's the magic of it all. Because like Arnold Palmer said in that boardroom,
Starting point is 00:26:33 He just did some magical shit. He got it done, made some huge shots, didn't end up making a mistake that derailed him, and essentially put a green jacket on himself, not a jean jacket. And now he's a multiple-time master winner. Now his story of legendary status of like, well, can't compare him to Kepka anymore
Starting point is 00:26:56 because over the last two years now he's tied and passed him, and we all know Rory non-majors is a way better player than Brooks. speed and DJ and all, like his other contemporaries of his era post Tiger Phil. He's the kingmaker, you know? And it's, you know, Scotty's a good example of, well, he's just one round away. Well, that's Roy probably be like, Google my resume. Google fifth, some of my years of like one round away. Hell, I was one or two shots away.
Starting point is 00:27:27 I could have 12 majors right now. So that's part of golf. hey, if I could have, and that's why Scotty, I think, kind of snap back on Sobel was like, yeah, I shot 65. It could have been 60. I mean, that's golf. That's every round. My 74 that I shot on Friday, hell, could have been 78. Probably could have been 72.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Could have been 70. That's every round of golf ever. So I just think Rory's sitting here like, not my greatest performance. but like over the course of my work, I've earned it. You know, for every 28 to 3 or Malcolm Butler pick at the line of scrimmage to win a Super Bowl in just the most insane fashion,
Starting point is 00:28:15 there's that 13 and 3 game against the Rams, which no one really talks about, no one really remembers. It's just part of the resume. It's like one of the Super Bowls, you know? And this, to me, is not going to top last year because it's impossible to do that. But it's just like, as time goes on, this will age.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Not the biggest wine guy. So I use this like age like a fine wine. I don't technically know what that means because I'm not a big fine wine drinker. But clearly as wine ages, I guess, it clearly tastes better. That's what I think will happen with this. And we'll lose touch with the true nitty, gritty details. And just be like he showed a lot of heart, he showed a lot of mental fortitude, he showed a lot of mental toughness,
Starting point is 00:29:00 and he just found a way and he willed himself to this championship after, you know, essentially blowing a big lead on Friday, which, how often do you see these tournaments where the guy went in by, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:13 five, six, seven shots, not really how the master's works. I mean, it's why so many times, in my memory, I can remember this tournament going into extra holes because of the thrilling nature of the course.
Starting point is 00:29:25 And the course is always such a big winner because we have such a, history with the holes, especially on the back nine. You know how 10 curves. You know how tough that second shot on 11. For whatever reason, the whole 12 is the hardest par 3 that's like 160 yards in the history of America. You know the two par 5s, that 18th hole, the drivable, you know, or I mean, the drive on 18
Starting point is 00:29:49 is just, just feels like an iconic view. And when you get an iconic winner, it just, it's just one of those you remember. And I think Rory is just kind of cemented his status where a couple years ago, I thought this is like, it's inevitable he's going to win more majors. But you never know. Like you'd be like, I think Scott is going to win five or six more majors. It's fucking hard to do. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:30:16 It's just difficult. Like you do have to play four good rounds. Or you can't have one round that just derails you. Right. And it's just hard to not do that. Right. He's already won a ton of majors. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:29 It's going to be difficult for him. Like I, most people back, he's got a bunch more in the back. Maybe. I hope so. I find him pretty enjoyable. But there's no guarantee. That's not the way it works. I mean, we thought that with Jordan Speath.
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Starting point is 00:32:53 We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember I think it was on a call about what we should call it And we were thinking I'm originally calling it One of the early names of our band
Starting point is 00:33:14 Before Jonas Brothers This is how you guys remember it going down Yes I have a very different memory of this We were talking about a thing A bit for the podcast For people could call in and say hey Jonas And then I wrote down on my little notepad Hey Jonas and offered it up as a potential title
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Starting point is 00:36:05 I was watching Friday afternoon. You know, Thursday, he goes viral for the bunker shots. Friday, he feels, he's on 18. All he's got to do is bogey the hole. He makes the cut. And it's like, yeah, he's not going to have a great master's. But you never know. Maybe he shoots a 65 on Saturday or Sunday and kind of like Colin Moracawa,
Starting point is 00:36:25 you know, cooks the books a little bit and makes it look a little better than it actually was in terms of their competitiveness when you look back 10 years from now. But he just melts. down. And you saw Sergio today just absolutely snapping his driver getting yelled at by one of the green jackets. You saw Bob McIntyre flipping off. I don't know, the cameras, the patrons. Like some of these guys just lose it. And like it's crazy environment, but sorry, I lost my train of thought there. My point is, is that Cam Young, who, oh, I was talking about Bryson. And I thought Bryson, listen, it's hard to pick a winner.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Like, I mean, I bet on winners in golf. If you, the guy that you pick the win is just in the mix on Sunday and has a chance. Like, that's an incredible feeling. Bryson is not making the weekend. It's just epic failure. I think he clearly, I know ROM takes a lot of shit. Like, at least I turn on the TV Saturday and Sunday in the morning and watch Ron play golf. You know, Bryson was an embarrassment relative to the hype.
Starting point is 00:37:33 and I bought it relative to winning these live events relative to how good, you know, his status in the game is and should be based on his recent form. But this week and that performance on Friday, like I'm not a huge fan of front runners because whether you're a golfer, whether you're a football player, whether you're, you know, a businessman, like life's full of ebbs and flows. And most people are defined by their shittiest times. It's like everyone can smile and have a good time when you're, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:04 winning games or making money or, you know, everyone's happy in the honeymoon phase when you first start dating someone. Like, tell me two kids and, you know, someone loses their job four years later, how it's going because that's what defines people through the toughness or the tough times. And Bryson, when times get tough sometimes, he just acts like a different human being. And this is why people push back. And I'm a fan. But I do get where it's like,
Starting point is 00:38:31 is this totally authentic? Is he kind of faking it? When times are going good and when times are going bad, it kind of turns into like the sulky guy. But I just think that, yeah, I couldn't have misread that one anymore. And I was off because I thought Cam, I thought I reversed him. I thought Bryson was going to do what Cam Young did.
Starting point is 00:38:50 And Cam Young, maybe not quite to the degree that Bryson did. But I was like, everyone's picking them. And then at one point in Saturday, like, is this the best player right now in the world? World. Like, are you watching this guy? And then even a couple times today, you're like, Cameo's going to win this tournament. Camio's going to win this tournament.
Starting point is 00:39:08 This putter kind of let him down, which is weird because putter's fantastic. And by the end, you know, you just kind of out of it. He pumps one of the trees left. But he was good, man. He was, I thought, like, love him in Philadelphia in a month at the PJ Championship. I'm going to double down
Starting point is 00:39:26 on that. I think this is, this guy is poised. One, also, if Scotty's going to play like this, like kind of muscle flexed a little bit, like, guys, I still got it. I still got to figure out just one of these rounds, but much closer than that T, whatever, the players.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Like, I got it, guys. Like, I'm right here. I finish second. I'm a shambles. I got the second kid. I'm not playing that well. I'm still pretty good. But Cam Young, since the Ryder Cup,
Starting point is 00:39:57 has been a fucking monster. And we talk about this a lot. Most guys do not have 10, 15, 20-year dominant careers. That's for a very, very small percentage of guys. If you look historically, I'm talking like Hall of Fame guys. Potty Harrington, right? Marco Miro won a couple of majors. You take advantage of that moment for a year or two when you're humming.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Speed did it. And right now, Cam Young is humming. So you can have a year. it's like, remember when he finished top five in every major and won two of them? Now, obviously winning two of the four majors is extremely hard. But like, he is going to be the heavy favorite, excuse me, one of the heavy favorites for anyone with a brain going into the next three tournaments. Because especially the PGA and the British, where is it,
Starting point is 00:40:51 Shinnecock is, which is a historically very, very difficult course. Like, to me, I'm putting, I'm putting him. ahead right now of like I just trust him and more than Bryson and John Rom. I mean, John Rom was obviously pretty disappointing. Rough kind of week for live, which I think sometimes people go back
Starting point is 00:41:12 and forth on Twitter. It's like, I just want to see John Ron and Bryson play well in these majors. Like I just would like him in the mix. Morikawa went kind of nuts, 69, 68, God, Sam Burns is going to have a chance over the course of the next week to think to himself. I can I have won this tournament?
Starting point is 00:41:34 It's another example of sometimes you get in these kind of modes where you have an opportunity and you never get it back. Like how many times Sam Burns is going to be like legitimately in the last or second to last group on Saturday and Sunday of a master specifically? I can see him winning a major. But like for a guy from the South, clearly a really good player, just kind of. to have that meltdown early in the day-to-day, and it kind of derailed him. Max Homa, sneaky top 10, Zander Shafle, actually having a good season. Speeat. I watched a decent amount of speed over the last three days.
Starting point is 00:42:16 There was a stretch on Friday and Saturday where it's like he's putting like a 12 handicap. Like his putting couldn't have been any worse. He had a stretch of probably like 27 holes. I don't know how many other guys in this tournament are hitting the ball better than him. If you just put both guys from 180, from 150, from 200 yards,
Starting point is 00:42:39 I would trust Speed as much as I would trust anybody in this tournament right now besides like maybe Cam Young. And then he would get up there from seven feet and it's like, did he just miss that putt by three feet? So Speed is going to have a week where it's like he finished five, 12, seven shots back.
Starting point is 00:42:58 I mean, seven shots a lot, but he has to be thinking, like, I easily should have been like 9, 10 under. In a weird way, and this is a positive because I'm a big Jordan guy actually threw 100 bucks on him this week. He's got to be thinking I'm actually much closer to 10 under than I am to be in over paring this tournament. And I think that's the truth. Like to me, Rory is much closer to be in 5 under in this tournament than he was to be in, to be an 18 under and winning this tournament by six, seven shots. I think we'd all agree.
Starting point is 00:43:33 I'm not trying to diminish or talk shit or anything, but like it's just a fact. You know, it really is. Like you watch Scotty and Cam Young when their peak of this tournament, they just looked way better than Rory did. I mean, Rory was just pulling some crazy shots out of his ass. Scotty's just pounded down the middle,
Starting point is 00:43:51 hitting it six feet, making the putt. But he just came through what he had to. And now he's one back to back. Masters. And this tournament, I think is, and I mentioned this to Colin, I think it's elevated its status. You know, sometimes we thought for a long time, how do we do without Tiger? This tournament's always been able to kind of carry itself on its own a little bit. But I think Rory has re-elevated it, obviously in the way, in the fashion in which he played. But that was as just a fan and lover of entertaining sports. Like, I'm not a huge soccer
Starting point is 00:44:28 fan. But if you tell me, I'm about to watch the greatest World Cup game ever, I wouldn't miss it for the world, right? I'm not a huge hockey guy. The Olympic hockey, those games were incredible. Let me repeat, incredible. I'm a big moment, things that matter in terms of athletically, that carry over culturally. And that's where I think that Rory has kind of elevated kind of this thing. And And for a guy that we saw what it meant to him last year, this one, I haven't seen everything because we hopped right on. But having your dad there at the moment with his family, I just, it's going to be difficult.
Starting point is 00:45:12 And I think the only thing he can chase now, I guess I'll end on this, is like all-time great status. Because at this point in time, like, what else? He's won every major. He's won the Masters twice. he joins Tiger, Jack, and Nick Faldo is the only guy is to do it back to back. He's just chasing now like other great golfers.
Starting point is 00:45:39 He's just chasing this list of humans. Like, what's his next goal? Could I win nine more and catch Tiger? I mean, that sounds crazy. But like, what else are you going to use to motivate you? Like, what else is, why would he ever play some of the, these random events ever again in his career. It's very difficult, you know, where at this point in time, his, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:04 Shipnuck just reported he's closer to being a billionaire than not a billionaire. Golf-wise, I mean, these last three or four years, he's playing at such an elite level. He's dominated these majors. And now the accomplishments, like, he's actually done it. It's not like, oh, he's really close. He's playing at a high level. He's already accomplished the majors years ago. But, like, he's clearly one of the best.
Starting point is 00:46:27 It's like this guy's winning the Masters. Last year he won the players. Like, how do you stay motivated? And that's really difficult. You know, it's easy for some guys where they just have the one event. Like every single year, it's like, I want to win the Super Bowl. I want to win the Daytona 500. I want to win, like, this guy, there's a tournament every week.
Starting point is 00:46:50 You know, and as this thing changes, like you can't just part of golf, It's not just the four majors. He's a big part of the PGA tour, the reimagining of it in terms of the elevated events, and he's got to go, like, how does he get up for it? Which I've always said this forever. I have nothing but respect for humans that still grind when financially they have nothing to gain
Starting point is 00:47:18 in terms of their life is completely set. And they've accomplished what they need to in Seed Field. And I think the thing with Rory is, what's going to be his, like Tiger was just a psychotic sicko. Like MJ, like Tom, you know, that's not, that's not, that's not, he's, he said, I'm not wired like that. I heard a question on Friday when I flew back from L.A. when I was driving home, I flipped on like PJ Tour Radio on Sirius and it was press conference.
Starting point is 00:47:49 And they asked them, do you ever feel intimidating to your partners? And he's like, that's not the way I play golf. They're essentially saying, do you ever feel kind of like, I'm like you intimidate the field. And he's like, that's not the way I'm wired. That's the way I think. And he's being honest. That's not.
Starting point is 00:48:06 And that's the way Tiger thought. It's not really the way like speed or feel think. They're trying to play really good golf. And how he can stay motivated at this point in time, I'm going to be fascinated to watch. Because I, for us to be entertained for the game of golf, it's pretty important that he stays motivated. Right? Like in just in terms of in shape, practicing, like, best case scenario, LeBron, Tom Brady, like into their 40s. They were still very driven. And he's clearly a driven, ambitious guy, but it's going to be fascinating if he's able to sustain it. Because at this point in time, like, he's just kind of chasing ghosts, like chasing debate shows. Like Rory or Tom Watson, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:57 Ory or Ben, I guess there's nothing left. Money, accolades. It's just to just keep racking them up. And part of that motivation in golf is like you've got the practice is so important. That's what you have to do leading up to these events. And it's going to be fascinated to see if he's able to maintain, sustain, and stay dialed in. What a master's, adios, and congrats to Roy McElroy. The volume.
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Starting point is 00:51:09 Winning on Clay is an art. The rallies are relentless. And at the French Open, only the toughest survive. I'd know. I competed there for decades. Join me, Renee Stubbs on the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast for no nonsense breakdowns of the biggest matches, the toughest players, and the moments that define Roland Garris. She's an outsider to win the French win.
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