The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Go Low - Cam Young FINALLY wins, FedEx Cup, LIV Chicago

Episode Date: August 11, 2025

John is back with a Go Low podcast reacting to Cam Young finally getting a win and making it look easy. He talks about if this win gives Cam Young enough to help him earn a spot on the US Ryder Cup team or should that spot go to someone like Chris Gotterup. Next, John dives into this weekend's FedEx St. Jude Championship and what he should keep an eye out for with the FedEx Cup on the line. Later, John gives you his best bets for the weekend. Finally, John answers your questions in this episode's mailbag segment. Follow John on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube for the latest. Check out Gametime - the fastest growing ticketing app in the US, and the official ticketing app of 3 & Out and GoLow -  for tickets to all of your favorite NFL, NBA, NHL, NCAA teams. Concert and comedy show tickets, too. Go to Gametime now to create an account, download the app and use code JOHN for $20 off your first purchase. #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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is for a long time, golf is not football, basketball, or baseball. You could be a really good baseball player, never win anything and make a ton of money. This is 30 years ago, let alone nowadays, right? same thing in basketball and obviously football. Winning doesn't go hand in hand with having a very lucrative career. Typically in an individual sport, right, when you think about golf and tennis, like the really

famous players making all the money are the guys winning the most? Tiger, Phil, Nadal, Djokovic, Federer, Pete Sampras. But there are the occasional outliers. Like, Andre Agassi's career, if you just put it parallel Pete. Sampresses doesn't look the same, but he was a marketing machine. Ricky Fowler is not nearly as accomplished as his buddies, Jordan Speeth and Justin Thomas, but he can push some product, and he has printed cash. So you either got to be a great winner or, you know, the outlier version of a marketing machine.

And then there are the occasional guys that come really close, come really close, and then start winning like Zander or Tony Fee now, and that accumulate a lot of money. Funny. Kim Young, who there's no disputing his talent. I got a good buddy named Scotty Raver. He is good buddies with Spencer Levine. And Spencer Levine played, I've played golf with them a couple times in the Sacramento area. He played on the PGA tour for a while, was one of the best amateur players in Northern California when I was in junior high in high school. And now I was on the Corn Ferry Tour. Actually, just finished second literally last week in Utah. And he told Scotty a story probably like four or five years ago that he was in an event, a corn fairy

event with Cam Young in Chicago. This is before Cam Young had made the PJ tour. And it was the Sunday or the last day of this event. It might have been Saturday. Awful weather. Rain, wind. Again, Spencer has played against Phil, has played against Tiger, has played against Rory. I mean, Jim Furek. I mean, Ernie Ells, you name it. Some of the best players in the history of the sport. And on this day, Cam Young shot like four or five under. And every, No one sniffed part. And he's like, this is one of the best rounds I've ever seen. Cam Young, when he's on, and he was just last week when he's putting well, obviously, I think his driver can get a little squirly.

There is no disputing. He is one of the elite, elite talents in the game of golf. I mean, you're talking. Scotty, Rory Bryson in a pretty special category. Then you get to like the Xander types. Like, Cam Young, when he's on, is in that type conversation. Right? I mean, we're going to get some random guys probably on this Ryder Cup.

Ben Griffin, really talented player playing really well. Just from a talent standpoint, Cam Young's more talented, right? PJ Tour rookie of the year, guy that's finished second a bunch of times. But golf in 2025, like these guys are very, very lucky to be part of this product. You know, this is not the NBA or baseball where guys have been making a ton for a long, long time. Cam Young had made $20 million basically before he had won in a lot. event. And unlike Ricky Fowler or Andre Agassi, no one's calling Cam Young a big personality. If you watch the TGL, and I don't blame you if you didn't watch much of it, it was kind of boring after a while.

But that was the thing on ESPN2 with the, you know, the track man with the big screen. Listen, there's some Justin Thomas, pretty big personality, Billy Horshaw, like the PJT tour of some guys that will Phil Mickelson, Bryson, guys that are just, can just kind of carry you when you put a mic and, you know, a camera in front of him. Cam Young is not that guy. There is not much there. I mean, he's bringing little to nothing to the table in terms of personality. Hell, he finally wins, and which I admire shows absolutely zero emotion, excitement. I mean, very on brand for the guy.

And all these guys right now, and we get a lot of complaining a couple years ago, and Zander with the Ryder Cup and the No Hat Pat and we should be paid. Listen, I'm as pro-capitalism as anyone you're going to meet. But there are certain situations where it's like, God, I mean, don't bite the hand that feed you. Because this is, and CBS is having a great year. Their golf is up 17% based on last year. They have some events that you're like, how is the John Deere Classic up? So now, clearly they're factoring in streaming.

Golf's popularity, because it's pretty simple. Like, people often ask, like, why isn't hockey as big in America? because kids, like the reason I watch football or basketball and love those sports as a kid, like I played basketball in junior high. I played football in high school. I love golf, but I played high school golf. People that play the sport in their youth, junior high school, obviously college, tend to gravitate to that sport as they age in terms of a viewer and as a fan.

It's easier to relate, not that you can play like these guys, but if you play casual golf, If you are a golfer and you play once a week with your buddies on a Friday afternoon or Saturday or whatever, right? Over the course of the next couple years, you're going to be more inclined if you're flipping channels and see it on CBS or NBC. Pro golfers teen it up because you're like, I play this too. What do they do? Right? So I think that part of what makes golf unique is the popularity is really grown and clearly there's interest in the pro game. but like you don't even need to win to make huge cash, right?

Obviously, Scotty Sheffler, who has accumulated a ton over the last couple years, well, he's been winning at a borderline historic tiger-like clip. You got Cam Young that hasn't won anything, and it's just printing money. This is why people get so turned off when guys like Morikawa getting these spats like Colin, relax, buddy. Like, life's not that bad. You got it pretty good. You play golf for a living.

And relative to the viewership compared to these other sports, like Cam Young is a good example, right? If he disappeared tomorrow, the sport would be unfaced. Like, they're really just a couple guys. Scotty, Bryson, Rory, who really impact, like, true interest in the sport. You could not Justin Thomas speak to if he's good. It's a very small percentage. I'm comparing none of those guys to Tiger.

But there was a reason this was one of the most watched masters over the course the last 20 years when you factor in the story and the guy chasing the green jacket it was rory mackerel it would not have been the same if it had been brooks kepka or it had been i was going to say speed that's zander it just it just wouldn't there are certain people that you know just bring more intrigue and cam young is one of those guys that's kind of gliding or what's the term in you know in car racing when you draft behind the guy That's what a majority of these guys are doing. And it kind of leads us into the playoffs this week in Memphis,

brought to you by transfusion five-hour energy shots, a whole-in-one-one flavor sensation by now on five-hour energy.com. Here's the thing. They've messed with the FedEx Club playoffs over the last couple of years. It used to be you made the top 30. You're guaranteed like a minimum couple hundred thousand dollars. And the winner was getting like $18, $20 million of the last couple years. they've changed that and kind of split it in half.

Like Scottie just got a payment last week for $18 million. Because they didn't want it all to come down to the last week. They wanted to factor in the course of the year. Golf's different than basketball or football or whatever. They wanted to value the course of the season. So Scotty Sheffler literally just what $18 million based on his success throughout the season. Rory was 10, Cepstrako was 6, Justin Thomas, some other guys, like 4 and a half. So they are just handing out money right now.

And listen, I got no problem with it. I said before, I tweeted this out, like, on Sunday, I never understand why the broadcast is so uncomfortable leaning in. Like, the whole point of professional golf, like in football, the whole point of the sport is to try to win the game and then make the playoffs and then win the Super Bowl. So it's not like you don't need to talk about like, hey, this guy's making $27 million to play left tackle. But in golf, the premise behind an event is I'm trying to win the event or top 10 to make the most money possible. I'm literally just playing golf for money, for prize money.

It's really that simple. And I get it, like, they never have and they don't lean into this. Like, I don't understand, like, Jim Nancy is like, this is pretty impressive. He just sets a new record, $19.1 million worth of earnings before his first win. And if Tommy Fleet would ever wins, he'll shoole. shatter that record, he's well over 30. But, like, that's interesting. And they never talk about that.

And the whole playoffs, like, the next three weeks, it's just, this whole thing exists to just give out money to guys. And I think they felt like it was weighted too hard on these last couple weeks. If Aurora Scotty had a great season and then they kind of shit the bed, like, they shouldn't be, I would say, docked that much. So they've tried to give out some early money. And now these next three weeks, Like, this is a huge week because to make it to the top 50, which is next week,

gets you into all the signature events next year. And the signature events are where the big payouts happen. So it's basically turned into a tour of halves and have-nots. And everyone's had a million different opinions. And forever when it was 120 or 125 or whatever the number was, I kind of agree with the elite players of like, why are we so worried about the 95th guy? Why are we so worried about the 120th guy?

Because in tennis, they are 100% not worried about that. They are dead set on taking care of the top five, six guys. And on any given era, it might be three or four. It might be less than five or six. Now, golf's a little different than that. They go a little deeper. But like, they have spent probably a outsized amount of energy worried about taking care of the back half of the guys,

and the money that gets generated through television isn't really about those guys. Now, I'm also a believer that one organic aspect of professional golf is it is cool on a given Sunday when you have a top player, Scotty Sheffler, a Zander Shoffley, a Rory McElroy, in a major, a Bryson D. Shambo, a Dustin Johnson, a Brooks Keppka, going up against more of a no-name guy. I do think that's riveting.

I do think that's really good television. And the more and more they whack those guys where everyone just becomes a famous person, and it's just like you're not even welcome into our event. It gets a little less interesting. So I think they're in a tough spot. I'm very fascinated how Brian Rolap, the new tour commissioner,

who is from the NFL, will he make aggressive changes? does he even have the power to make aggressive changes? How involved is guys like Tiger Woods, who I think in rightfully so, have a huge affinity for the way things used to be, not necessarily from a financial standpoint, but just the purity of golf. And it's going to be really, really interesting where we go moving forward.

But as we sit here right now, it goes 70, 50 to 30. Like the next three weeks, I would say, are not the most riveting in golf. And I don't get caught up and worrying about like who's going to be the FedEx champion who's going to win the Tour Championship. I don't really care. I view this more from like, how do we gamble on this? And it can be a little difficult because these are no cut events, smaller fields. I looked at the last couple of years at this event in Memphis, which is extremely hot. Obviously, it's in the heart of the South.

I was in the car the other day, and I listened, I was flipping around, and I ended up on PJ Tour radio, and Wyndham Clark was calling it. And he's played this event, and he was saying that two things. One, it's supposed to be like 95, 96 degrees with insane southern humidity and zero wind. He's like, at least if there's a 10 mile wind at, you know, when you're playing southern courses in the summer, it cools you down a little bit, but there is zero wind. So this tends to be a little bit of a birdie fest. No wind, the heat, it's almost like who can handle the amount of heat.

So you've got to like some guys from like Texas and Arizona in this event. But looking at the last couple years, and they've played this event at this. time so these guys have been used to it. The other thing Wyndham said is you got like this course, if you don't hit fairways, it just really limits your ability to score here. So accuracy off the tee is really, really big. And you look like, this is a ball strikers course because the last year, for example, Hadecki won, second was Zander and Hovland, and fourth was Scotty.

A year ago, it was Lucas Glover, who, who was on an all-time late-season heater in a playoff against Patrick Cantlay, who was playing better then, and in third place was Rory. So looking at how to gamble on this, Scotty is such a major favorite. In every tournament he plays now,

and currently he's like under 3 to 1. So if you want to bet Scotty, I got no issue with you. To me, if I'm going to bet Scotty, I'm going to part lay a couple guys to finish in the top 20. Like, I look to take Scotty and then take like Ben Griffin and Chris Godderup, who are playing really, really well,

two top 20, and you can get, like, that's like 15 to 1. You bet 10 bucks, you win 150, you bet 100 bucks, you win 1,500. I also said, well, if you go, Rory's not playing in this tournament. Zander, over the last couple months, has looked much more like himself. A year ago, he finished second,

so he's comfortable on this course. You can get Zander right now 18 to 1. I mean, the gap between Scotty at plus 280 and Zander at plus 1800 is pretty crazy. Like, typically, even in Scotty's heyday, you would get a couple guys like how Zander not 10 to 1 or something. But that's a pretty sizable gap. So you're basically just playing, hey, can Zander beat Scotty, you kind of got to like his chances. And if you do that same parlay, Zander with Goder up and Ben Griffin to top 20, that pays 80 to 1. I think it's like plus 8,07 or something.

So it's betting like $10,000, win you $800. I'm going to do that. So I'm going to do the Scotty one. I'm going to do the Zander one. And that's really all I'm going to play. A couple guys, if you like to win just outright that aren't Scotty or Zander. You know, Fleetwood has had success here before. You know, you want a guy that's going to hit fairways and be a ball striker.

Hovlin obviously was good here last year. He's a guy you can get like plus 3,000, so 30 to 1. I think it's kind of intriguing, but these really this week and next week are probably the last tournaments. That tour championship can be difficult because there's only 30 guys and it's basically going to come between probably one of Scotty Arori are going to win the thing. So I'm actually excited for this week because there's also a lot on the line in terms of Ryder Cup. Let's face it, watching Cam Young win on Sunday, you went like he's from, the New York area. He is an absolute bomber.

I think he won a big amateur tournament at Bethpage, so he's comfortable on the course. Like, how's he not, especially if he plays well the next couple weeks, not on the team. He was already, I think, like, 15th in terms of the American Rider Cup rankings. So it's like he's been in the mix anyway. You wouldn't rather have Cam Young if he's playing well than, I don't know. And I understand, like, Patrick Cantley has been a very good.

Ryder Cup player. But he's not playing well right now. I mean, he's honestly had an awful year. I would say Jordan Speath right now. He even admitted, like, next year I'm going to feel a lot better. Coming back from injury this year was weird. I'm much more confident next year. He's basically telling you, like, I haven't played very well this year.

How are you going to take, if Cam Young plays well in one of the next two weeks, Jordan Speathe over Cam Young, just because of what he did four, eight, six years ago? Who cares? The same thing with Goderup. Like if Goderup plays well these next couple of weeks, I just have a hard time seeing Cam Young and Godder up guys from the area that bombed the ball and that are playing really well.

Like their momentum has to count for something. And I do think Keegan Bradley, who on the, was it the original Netflix or was it the season two of the Netflix, when he got left off, Zach Johnson's team for the good old boys club, I'm not saying that he has a vendetta against everybody. He's probably cool with them all.

But you can't imagine he hasn't thought, like if I'm given the opportunity to blow this all these guys on scholarship, like if they're not playing well, I'm going to do it. And guys like Cam Young, Chris Godderup, they got a chance to really disrupt this thing.

And I'm not saying to kick more a cowah to the curb. He's currently, I think, eighth in the Ryder Cup American rankings. But he has not played well either. And like his whole juju and vibe has been off. He's gone through like 17 caddies in the last three months. So I think there has to be some guys, and Kagan's already said,

whether he picks himself or not, If you are not in the top six and automatically qualifying, you are not guaranteed shit. So it happened to me, and you better get ready because it will happen to you. But you also need some of these guys to step up and play well for everyone to feel good about, especially Keegan picking them. So again, I'm going Zander to win with Goderup and Ben Griffin to top 20. And I'm also doing the same thing with Scottie to win Ben Griffin and Godderup to top. 20. Okay, live Chicago this week in Bowling Brook. Your boy has never been to the windy

city. Kind of crazy. Never been there. That will change this week. Flying out Friday, staying with a man named Colin Coward, and we are going to this tournament on Saturday. Not quite even sure what to expect. I've been telling them, like, get us, Phil, we can talk football, we can talk some divisional odds, we can talk who we like, you know, to win the conference, to win the MVP. We know Phil likes to gamble. Bryson, content creator, like your boy. So I am just excited to watch this whole operation.

Because listen, the television product in terms of ratings haven't worked out, but no one has argued that being in the event, I would imagine there's going to be a pretty big turnout. Never been or seen this course, Bowling Brook. But I can't imagine the vibes are going to be high. They clearly put in a lot of money in terms of the... the infrastructure and the party holes. So I'm excited to see what lives bring to the table.

Obviously, you know, Bryson, Phil, DJ Hatton, Bothers playing well. So we will be at Live Chicago this Saturday and we'll report back next week. Okay, you don't need to sink a 30-foot putt to score big this weekend. Just fire up the Draf King Sportsbook and take your shot at the green, the kind with dollar signs. Whether you're a dired golfer or just in for some Sunday drama, Draft Kings, has everything you need to make the round a little more exciting.

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We will start with Sean. I don't understand why all the majors get done so quickly and are not more spread out. It's July and the season basically seems. over. Why not have more time in between majors and have the last one in September? Also hot take. After watching the British Open, I can safely say that Lynx Golf is so boring and overrated. Every course looks the same. The grass is dead and it's a horrible TV product. Yeah, the courses over there have history, but man, give me sawgrass type course any day of the week with lush

greens, beautiful trees and not just flat land everywhere. I'm going to disagree. I enjoy it on television once a year, but I would probably get on board if we saw it 10 times a year. Okay, we get it. You need the wind and the rain or else these guys are going to destroy the course. I don't think, and this is the problem, I love the Ryder Cup. I mean, I love golf. Having the Ryder Cup, which is an incredible event,

going up against college and NFL football, is tough. Like Friday of the Ryder Cup is cool, because they're not competing against anything. And then all of a sudden you got Alabama, LSU, Ohio State, Michigan, Oregon, USC, all these teams playing, that the casual sports fan that would consume the Ryder Cup is not going to do it. And obviously, you play the singles matches on Sunday. Well, what happens on Sunday? The NFL.

And the Ryder Cup's in New York this year, which is really cool. But like, do you think more people are tuning into that or the Jets and Giants game come Sunday afternoon? So I hear what you're saying about spreading it out. I disagree. You kind of got to take advantage of the summer. Like the best thing for golf is once football ends, there's some open real estate. There's a reason that on the AFC and NFC championships,

that Jim Nance typically, it's like the Kansas City invitational now, calls the Torrey Pines from the football booth. And they do Wednesday through Thursday or Wednesday through Saturday, instead of Thursday through Sunday because they don't want to go up against the NFL. So I would not go up against football. I really would not. I hear what you're saying,

but why does golf have to be 12 months a year? It's always a complaint by the players. Like, why don't we get an offseason? I think it's a valid concern. There just literally is no offseason. So, yeah, I don't know. Why is the hole after an eagle or a birdie so impossible? It's a great question.

I think you're, I mean, if you're after an eagle, you're just so amped up. Even if you're a pro. I mean, an eagle is a pretty big deal. Especially if it was like, it's one thing if it's like a drivable par four. But if you get an eagle on a par five where you do hit a driver

and then definitely like a three wood or a five would and make a putt, I don't think there's a better feeling in golf. Like it's a cool feeling to like hit an iron within 10 feet and then make the put. But there's nothing like hitting it on and two on a par five and then making a put. to me that is better than even like chipping in

but you could also argue that chipping in like there's just a come down from it and I think most of us we get a little too excited we lose our focus and then all of a sudden you've pumped one in the trees how good would you recommend someone be to play some of the tougher and more famous courses I'm new to golf and taking lessons and still scoring in the hundreds I live in NorCal and want to play courses like Bannon Dunes

and Pebble Beach in the next few years before I move but want to actually enjoy it. It's not fun spending $300 for a round and spend your whole time searching for a ball. I think there are some parallels, anyone that's skied or snowboarded. No, if you're not very good and you go down a double black diamond,

it is a miserable experience. And with golf, one, it's supposed to be a fun activity, right? You're supposed to enjoy yourself. All of us know it can be really challenging, really hard and really frustrating. But when you pay, you ain't playing pebble for $300, I'll promise you that. And I don't know how much Bandon Dunes is, but it's not $300 either.

And to get to Bannon Dunes for you, you either got to drive, which is six, seven, eight hours, or fly, which is not cheap. So it's an expensive. Those two golfing trips are expensive, no matter what. So if you're going to spend a lot of money, you don't, want to go to a situation where you're going to suck and be miserable. So I would say, I mean, Pebbles, you got to stay there. So unless you know people, you're spending well over $1,000 to play Pebble.

So if you're going to play Pebble, I would say you've got to be breaking 100 consistently. You could probably go to Banden playing like you're playing and just enjoy it because it's hard in a matter what if the wind is pumping. But I would say the Pebble thing, I would not play it. I've never even played Pebble Beach. I've been there a bunch, but I've never played Spyglass, but I've never played Pebble, but I would not recommend going if you can't break 100. Bandon, you could go with friends, get some caddies, and, you know, kind of enjoy yourself.

You're not going to lose as many balls in theory. Pebble, though, that to me is a bucket list course, no matter who you are. I mean, Jack Nicholas calls it the greatest course in history of the world. So definitely the best stretch is, you know, 6, 7, 8, 9. I would There's a correlation of putting pressure on yourself when you're spending an uncomfortable amount of money on golf. It's not fun if you're not playing well.

Have you or anyone played the Takamo irons? They advertise as being very forgiving and low price point but didn't know if they were any good. I think that's the iron that Grand Horvatt is in business with. I've never had. I mean, I've honestly only hit my own tailor-made irons for the last, I don't know, half decade. So they're the only, I mean, I've occasionally hit other people's drivers or woods,

but I have not hit another iron in a long, long time. In your last go low, when comparing Scotty's season from last year and this year, you forgot to list his win at the Olympics. I'm not saying it's enough for him to say he'd prefer his 24th season over two majors, but it obviously meant a lot to him, and he literally cried during the medal ceremony. How much do you think he values the gold medal in comparison to major trophies and other marquee PGA events? And how much do you value it adds to his legacy? So I think you were alluding to would Scotty have traded his season for Zanders when he won two majors?

I'm right, I did not mention the gold medal. And if I remember correctly, didn't Scotty come storming back on the final day to win the gold medal? pretty unique accomplishment even though it's not really like storied in the sense that it's relatively new I don't think Zander would have traded his because he already has a gold medal Zander won his gold medal

in what year was it 2000 he won in 2020 oh because they delayed it in 2020 so yeah I mean I think that definitely factors in and if you're Scotty and you know you're going to win more I think he'd feel pretty good about the gold medal aspect would probably

fair point Fair point. But I don't think Zander would have traded his for Scotty and all the wins and all the money to add the gold medal because he already had one. So I think it kind of goes both ways. But definitely now that Scotty's won the gold medal, I don't think there's a amount of regular events he could win and not trade for majors. I think he's at the point moving forward.

I mean, he's going to keep winning regular events for sure. But the emphasis on Scotty Sheffler to add to this, can he win? I mean, I think the question mark is now, he's at four. Is he winning 8 to 10? Or does he end up like 6 or 7? And I would guess 8 to 10, assuming he doesn't get injured. Like, I mean, I think the over-under next year for Scotty is 1.5. Just wanted to reach out and say that after about a month or two playing,

I hit a par and a par 3 today and hit my farthest drive as well. With golf seemingly growing, do you think the merger between the DP World Tour, live golf, and PGA can come? up with a product to capitalize on it. That's a great question, man. I'm going to be at the Live Chicago and see if I can get a vibe for like, hey guys, is this, we do any mergers?

We're going to start playing together? I do think the ball is somewhat in the PJ Taurus Court and the new CEO commissioner. You know, I think I've been saying this forever. An easy one is just to waive some of the the restrictions and just be like, hey, if you want to plan some of our events,

you guys, John Rom, you want to play in the waste management, DJ Kepka, you want to play in the Ornal Palmer, Bryson, you want to play in some of these events, and kind of start off slowly that way, and then slowly integrate from there. But as of right now, I would say based on the information we have up to this point, is there is no unification in the near future.

So I don't know. I would say maybe it's added some buzz to the majors, but relative to the tours, it doesn't matter. I mean, none of the tours don't have anything to do with the majors. It's kind of sad. Question for the pod. When is the next breaking 80 video coming? If you had to choose Rory v. Bryson Sunday at the Ryder Cup for the win,

or the Ravens v. Chiefs' week four matchup, They'll probably be on at the same time. This is what I'm saying. It's just Bryson and Rory are just not, they're not relevant in the sense of you're going up against the Ravens and the Chiefs. It's just not an ideal situation. There's no way around it. I don't know what you do.

There's not really any changes you can make. But if you're going to have the Ryder Cup during football season, you're going to come about that. Like it could be Scotty versus Rom and Rory versus Bryson, head to head, which I would guess. it's going to be. What are you going to do? Fleetwood versus Justin Thomas. Ludwig versus J.J. Spahn.

But I'm actually going to film some stuff today with my friends at five hour energy. I've got to do one soon. I've just, we got so football heavy, got married, kid, we haven't done one, but I'm kind of inspired right now. I haven't touched a golf club in a couple of weeks.

Congratulations on the upcoming baby. What are your thoughts on transitioning to all hybrid clubs? approaching 40s, my distance has diminished and I've always hit well with my 4 and 5 hybrids. I currently have 4, 5, and 6. Would you replace your 7, 8, 9 irons with hybrids? That seems pretty bold.

You know, part of, to me, like an 8 iron is, even if you hit it, let's say, 130 yards, 140 yards, an 8 iron. It's like, well, you can still, if it's windy, chip it. I don't know how on a hybrid you would hit like 130 yards shot. would be my question.

It's like Bryson. He swings so hard, sometimes he gets close. Like, how does Bryson ease into a 110-yard shot when he's hitting a nine iron 190 yards? To me, it's similar mindset with the hybrid.

Like, how do you, how do you hit something 133 yards? If you have a nine-iron hybrid? I'm the wrong guy to ask on that. I would say my initial reaction, even if you're getting older and your distance is diminished,

would still would be no. Okay, last question. Do you think that's a good or bad thing for the Ryder Cup? It was in relation to my tweet saying that Kegan has probably dreamt about blowing up the good old boys club. I would say if guys were playing well, and it was like, hey, you just can't lay speith, Moracawa, all these guys were no-brainers.

It would be stupid if Kegan wanted just to go against the grain because Zach Johnson screwed him. But given the situation, like what are we talking about? One, at the end of the day, this isn't exhibition. This is not a major. I understand, like, Kagan approaches like a major, and it's really serious to him. But we're also not talking about, like, Tiger Woods and Phil Mickelson in their prime.

We're discussing Patrick Cantlay, who can't make a cut at a major. We're talking about Jordan Speath, who just hasn't been that good lately. And we're talking about Cam Young, who has a track record of being a really good player. Chris Goderup, that I'd do. Healy, maybe he one day can be a consistent Rider Cup player and a top 20-ish, you know, golfer on the, on the PJ tour, top 15 guy, top 10 guy. So I don't think is that crazy at all. I think JJ Spawn winning the U.S. Open really through kind of a wrench and everything

because he's going to take an automatic spot. But I got no problem with anything Keegan wants to do. If he wants to keep, can't lay and speed. will understand it, though I would go the opposite. Like, I get taking Patrick Cantley. He's been awesome in the event. He's like, his career record's like five and two. And he gets into it.

So, like, I could see Patrick Cantlay a little like Justin Thomas being a bright lights guy. Speed to me is not in it. Like, I don't think you can take speed. If you wanted to be like Morikawa, don't like your vibes. You're not playing well. Not going to argue either. I think if he picks himself, you would like to see a little more signs of life the next

couple weeks. But I'd get that too. Like, he's one of our best players. So if he wants to pick himself, totally understandable. This isn't, you're not like a player coach. This isn't NFL playoff game. Like, it's very doable, I think, to be a player captain. I think it's possible. And I think he's going to be able to focus in doing it, given his passion for it.

But I think everything should be on the table right now. It's much easier for the Euros to pick the team. Their team is pretty well established in terms of like the hierarchy. Our is not. Ours simply is not. You know, you feel really good about Scotty Zander and Bryson. Even Justin Thomas played pretty well this year. I mean, really well.

I would say most of the other guys on the team. Like, I like J.J. Spawn. Seems like a great guy. But like, do you feel comfortable about J.J. Spawn against these guys in that moment? Not really. I mean, do you feel great? Russell Henley, really good player. You bet in your life?

Like, he's going to kick ass and take names in this environment? I don't know. So it's just, it's going to be fascinating to watch. That's what's sad. I wish this event was, even during the NFL preseason, I'd be so excited, but it's during football. And most of you guys, it's going to be hard to pay attention. Even if you've got multiple televisions, like Red Zone, Chief Ravens,

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