The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Go Low - Grayson Murray's passing, Scottie doesn't win, Mailbag

Episode Date: May 29, 2024

John Middlekauff reacts to the passing of Grayson Murray over the weekend and how this situation has hit the players and golf world a little bit differently because of how close all the players on tour are. Later, John dives into Scottie Scheffler coming in second place and how despite not winning, he is still incredibly dominant.  Lastly, John answers your questions during this episode's mailbag segment. 5:05 - Grayson Murrray's passing 15:48 - Scottie Scheffler doesn't win 21:25 - Mailbag Follow John on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube for the latest. Check out Gametime - the fastest growing ticketing app in the US, and the official ticketing app of 3 & Out and GoLow -  for tickets to all of your favorite NFL, NBA, NHL, NCAA teams. Concert and comedy show tickets, too. Go to Gametime now to create an account, download the app and use code JOHN for $20 off your first purchase. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What is going on, everybody, John Middlough? Go Low is the podcast, and today we are going to talk a little golf. Davis Riley won the congressional. Scotty Sheffler finished second, but that felt like an afterthought, not just in the golfing world, but in the professional sporting world with Grayson Murray committing suicide

and passing away this weekend after playing in the golf tournament. Grayson Murray was in Texas, played in the golf tournament Thursday and Friday, and withdrew with a couple holes left, and then was dead, less than 24 hours later. So, yeah, I don't even know where to start, but I do want to give a couple thoughts on that situation.

Then we'll dive into some golf. Scotty Sheffler, the floor, it just keeps getting higher and higher. And then some DMs from at go lo pod. At go lo, pod is my Instagram. We do it on the football podcast. Take your DMs here. So I wanted to discuss and interact with the people. But before we do that, game time, download the game time app right now.

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And before we left, she had an open house and I was kind of sitting around on Saturday watching golf. because I had money on Scotty Sheffler. And this is a tournament that, like most people, Memorial Day weekend, I would check out. I would not pay attention. And after the first day, when Scottie shot two over, I almost just completely checked out and just gave my money away. But he got back into it, and I just turned it on. There wasn't anything else to watch. And news broke that Grace and Murray was dead.

And then over the next, I would say a couple hours, multiple hours, multiple people. players talked on camera during the broadcast with Amanda Ballionis. And Peter Malnati, who played with him Thursday and Friday, just brought me to tears. I would imagine anyone that saw the clip, it was very, very emotional. And before we dive into the personal stuff with Grayson, I never met the guy. I know a couple people that have, I'm on some golf text chains with people that knew him and he would always DM back and forth with him. And people liked him.

Obviously, he's a very talented player. He won earlier this year. And has been very open in his fight with depression, anxiety, and alcoholism. And on the drive home, I thought so much about, you know, it's funny when you're young, you see people going through mental health stuff or alcoholism. I bet it's safe to say most of us, no sense. someone who is impacted by addiction. And whether it's family members, whether it's friends, you know, some sort of acquaintance,

someone you work with. And when you're young, you see it. And it's usually through your parents or extended family. But it's really, really hard to comprehend. And as you get older, and I'll use myself as an example, as you get in your 30s, approaching 40, you have people in your own life that you either grew up with, worked with, became friends with whatever, and you see it firsthand, and you see the power of it. And worst case scenario, and I've experienced this, it takes someone's life.

And it impacts you deep into your soul of something that you start asking all these questions, that all these players were talking about, could I have done more, reach out to this person. And you see Grayson Murray, who had been very open about his sobriety and turning his life around in terms of, you know, one thing with his depression and anxiety, I watched a lot of clips and press conferences from Grayson on Saturday and Sunday, he talked about negative thoughts impacting his life and overtaking him when he was at his lowest. And now he's, you know, up until this week, had really helped turn it into a positive. And you look at his resume this year. He has multiple top 10s a win. He just finished top 10 at Quail Hollow two weeks ago when Rory won.

and he had made two and a half million dollars. Not even June. I mean, there was a decent chance where he was on the FedEx Cup. I mean, you could be talking about a four or five million dollar a year. And you realize how little to nothing that matters. None of it mattered. Because this guy was dealing with things that he just could not shake. And like I said, if you, I don't have an addictive personality.

So I've never had to deal with, like most people, I'm sure, anxiety creeps in. I've never really dealt with depression, but I've seen it firsthand with friends and I've seen it take someone's life. And when you read or see a story like Grace and Murray, it feels like you know the person, right? And it feels like, oh my God. And the other thing in golf, unlike all these team sports, is if you play for the 49ers or you play for the Lakers, there's a decent chance there's dudes on all these other teams that you don't know at all

besides, you know, in football you might play the team once every four years and if you don't work out in the same area in the off season you have no clue anything about the guy. Basketball's definitely a little smaller but still there are guys that don't have

personal relationships or know that much about guys all over the league. Yet in golf you play in the same tournaments all the time. Anyone who's played at any level, you go to a driving range if there's a tournament, every single person's on the driving range.

And in professional golf, the driving range, the putting green, and the chipping area, it would be physically impossible to not get to know people over the course of several years. And for a guy like Grace and Murray,

who first won back in 2017, played a lot of tournaments. So when you see, All these guys talk. I can't even imagine Peter Malnadi who played with him Thursday and Friday. That experience and then getting the news that he was dead on Saturday. It's why I think he was clearly so emotional and overcome. That would have been like, he's never experienced anything like that in his life.

And then watching Scotty Sheffler talk after the tournament, this is a good example. Scottie Sheffler, best player in the world, by a wide margin. He's like, yeah, Grayson was at my house two weeks ago in Quayah Hall. Or I guess the week before, maybe it was the PGA championship because Scotty wasn't there. He had dinner at my house. Came over to the Airbnb for a couple hours. And it might have been because Grayson had gotten very involved with religion and obviously Scott, Scotty and his caddy, Ted Scott, and kind of the crew they run with.

Obviously religion is a major driving factor. Imagine that. Just a couple weeks ago, guy you play golf with. play practice rounds with, just commit suicide. And obviously we have seen deaths in other sports over the course of, I'll just use my life, 30 plus years watching sports. But I don't remember anything in golf, an individual sport where all these guys, even if you're not buddy buddy with the guy, you know them pretty well.

Because of the proximity you have to those people on a weekly basis. And for this guy, his story was, well documented, well documented, especially the turnaround story of him becoming a better guy and where his life was headed. And then Friday withdrawal, Saturday dead, and by Sunday his parents are like he committed suicide. I just thought the whole thing was very powerful. Obviously, I can't even imagine being in their family situation. there was, I saw a press conference from Grace and maybe it was a podcast within the last six months just talking about how much his dad meant to him and what it means to turn his life around for his father. And it just shows you that there are some demons that are just so dark you just can't shake.

And it's just, it really is a awful, awful. It doesn't get any worse this story. And with a guy that had a career that looked like it had a trajectory to really go places in the near future to just ending his life. And I think this is a topic that you're going to see a lot of people talk about in the golfing world. You know, the players, the U.S. opens right around the corner Memorial. This is not something that's going to go away. And obviously, you know, Jay Monahan talked about Grayson working with him because he had been very critical of the tours. I would say their willingness and thoughtfulness to help guys out through the dark times.

And him and Jay became really close, and Jay flew right to congressional. I thought, you know, this isn't something that as a commissioner you have to handle. But in the little, I watched him on a press conference. I thought Jay did, you know, an admirable job given the situation and given the severity. of the, just what was going on, because this is not something that, you know, there's no handbook for this. And just, just an awful situation. I hope the guy's in a better place because you just really feel for his family and his close friends. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged.

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ice planet hot, or the practicality and corporate business sense of the Sith rule of two. Listen to stuff to blow your mind on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I guess we'll pivot to golf here. Like I said, I had money on Scotty Sheffler last week. He did not play very well beside Saturday when he shot seven under. He had a decent stretch on Friday, but he had a triple bogey early on Thursday, and then Friday, and like he said after maybe the Grayson News, getting to know him over the course of this year, really rattled the guy, but he did not play very well at all. Never really had a chance to take down Davis Riley, who had a career week.

Davis Riley is a guy when he first came on tour I used to sneak put a little pennies on here and there for some top tens and top 20s. He actually was pretty good early on and he has not had a good season at all and that win could be a game changer. It's the thing with golf. You can be shitty, shitty, shitty, shitty,

and all of a sudden win a tournament like that in your career is often running. So Scotty finished in a week where I would say he had his on the aggregate. I'm not talking the individual rounds. B minus game, B minus game. If it wasn't for a guy,

I mean, there's a decent chance. That's the only win Davis Riley ever has on the PGA tour. I would put over under best case for Davis Riley, probably like a three-win guy. Maybe over the course of a decade, maybe he gets another one, so he's like a two-win guy. Career week, wins a big tournament, changes the course of his career.

Scotty, if that guy doesn't exist, he's in a playoff with Keegan Bradley. And he had a borderline C plus B minus week. I think we're dealing with a different animal here. And this was a thing with Peek Tiger. I didn't watch Jack or Arnie, but some of these historic guys is their floor. And Phil was like this for a long, long time in the majors. He was like the Xander on steroids. It's like he just rite.

there, right there. I mean, like I said, Scotty Badwick, he played in the final group on Sunday. And he got it to three early on and then it kind of flipped and then it was he never really had a shot. But, you know, I'm pretty tempted.

I looked yesterday. I've been saying this for a while and I said this after the PGA championship is, you know, and it looks like all these charges eventually are going to get dropped. That video of the arrest is a joke. but Scottie right now is under 4 to 1 to win the U.S. Open at Pinehurst.

I look today, he was 3.5 to 1. I might have put it a little parlay with the Dallas Mavericks and the Edmonton Oilers who lost a terrible game last night, but that's beside the point. There's a chance if he looks good at Memorial, which is next week, Jack's tournament, or happens to win that tournament, I don't think it's inconceivable that he could be 2 to 1.

If he were to win at Memorial, and he has a win going into the U.S. Open, I would imagine it's two to one going into the U.S. Open. And I would bet that. I think he's a borderline lock to win this tournament. I really do, especially if by then the situation in Kentucky's resolved, which all signs point to that being the case. But we're watching, like, what Zander's career was incredible,

was always around, always around, always around, you know, he didn't win as much. as we thought he should win, but it was just an awesome player. His floor was basically higher than everyone else. Right? It's higher than Rory's. It's obviously higher than the Spee's and the JT's and the Cantlays and all those dudes. It's obviously now higher than Roms.

Rom and Scotty were the only guys who were clearly better. And then it was like, well, Zander on a consistent basis is a better player than Rory. If they're both on, Rory's going to beat him. But like, that's part of golf, right? It's like every single week, are you getting, in top fives and top tens, and in the majors, are you always around the lead? That's what Scotty is.

Literally every freaking week, if he doesn't win the tournament, you look up, he's like, third. And he's not like sixth or tenth or ninth. It's like second, second, first, first, first, second. He's not playing one other person. This isn't match play.

This is literally 155 guys every single week. And it's either second or second, first. Like, it's fucking incredible. He got arrested a couple days ago, or a week, you know, less than a month ago now, three weeks ago. A dude that was hanging out at his Airbnb, a guy he played practice rounds, committed suicide. It's like, I don't know what can throw this guy off.

Literally nothing. It's like, yeah, he just hits him a couple bad shots, and it looks like he's playing terrible. Then you look at the rest of the field and they're all falling apart. He's just, it's, it's, It's a remarkable run he's on. It really is. And you remove Tiger, I don't think we've ever seen

something quite like this the last 15 years. I know some guys, and he's got to win the majors. We've seen guys win multiple majors in a year. Kepka has, right? At one point in time, he had the U.S. Open and PGA championship back-to-back years.

But Kepka wasn't doing shit in all these random PGA tournaments, right? I think he has like nine career wins and five of them are majors. So, I don't know, man. It's been really, really fun to watch. Okay, let's answer a couple mailbag questions.

At Golopod, at Golopod is the Instagram. Love the pot. Have made some good money following your betting tips. I'm cold right now. I really am. I got to get back on the saddle, and that's why we're going to hammer Scotty. We've got to pick someone in a morgue,

but we got to hammer Scotty at Pioneers. I'm coming to Phoenix in October. And note, you always mentioned to play Weka Pau and was wondering why not TBC Scottsdale. I'm coming from the UK. I would play TBC Scottsdale. I play out there every week. I just say Wicapau.

It's just kind of a unique course kind of out in the middle of nowhere. I actually drove by it today coming back from the mountains. I tell people this all the time. There are three public courses that if you really like golf and you're coming here, that most people that I play with, that are coming from out of town, play.

Because TPC Scottsdale is my home course. I join there. So it's just where I play. But most people that come that I play with, play there. They play Greyhawk, and they play True North. Now, if you want to drive a little farther,

Wicapaw and Quintero are pretty freaking awesome. But if you're just in the North Scottsdale area, the easiest ones are TPC, Greyhawk and True North. A little pricey, but all fantastic. And to me, I like TPC the most because it's, like, I'm a California kid. Sometimes Arizona golf, if you're a little off, True North is hard. If you're spraying the ball, you're going to lose a lot of balls.

Greyhawks, you know, you're not hitting driver off every tee. True North is, or excuse me, TPC is a legitimate golf course. It can spray it a little bit. It's got some long holes. It's got some cool holes. but it's much more closer to what I'm used to growing up than Desert Golf. And Desert Golf's grown on me a lot. Since Zander's dad said his son won't be chasing Live Tour Money,

who do you think Greg Norman and company will try to poach next, if any? Seeing the backlash John Rom has gotten and his struggles at the Masters and the PGA, you think the next first-time major champion winner will take the money and bolt seeing that they have the five major championship exemption in hand it's definitely the moment you win a major right like Xander he'd a bunch of exemptions because he's always finished

a top five in him but even if he had never played in a previous major and he won the PGA championship he's in all the majors for the next five years like Bryson's exemption from 2000 what is that? 2020 winning at Wingfoot is coming to a close. Now, because he finished his second at the PGA Championship, he's definitely in that next year. I think you're also in a couple other majors.

I have to give myself a retooling of the rules on the exemptions, but like Michael Block was in this major, he didn't have to qualify because he finished top 15. So Bryson's automatically in the PGA championship. I do think if you finish top five in a major, but Bryson's a bad example because all these majors are going to take him now. I don't know. I think this live PJ tour situation is going to come to a close, ideally over the next six months.

Sooner the better, obviously. But shit, what do I know? That could be wishful thinking. Got a few questions for the pot. What are some of the golf podcast you listen to? I listen to No Lying Up. on Sundays after a big tournament. I listened to

Shotgun Start. I've been listening to that one. It's pretty good. I've checked out the fried egg before. I listened to Hubbard's brother and Joe House, Simmons guy,

on Fairway Rowland. I listen to my guys at the tour junkies. They do a deep, deep dive on gambling. I'll throw on the Four Playboy, Franky's playing some pretty good golf. I watched a YouTube video. Frankie looks good. I like Dan Rappaport.

He's always got some good nugs. I don't think we'll ever see another stretch like we did with Scotty last month. Wins the Masters, wins the RBC, next week, has a baby, gets the PGA championship, shoots a 67, arrested Friday, gets released, shoot 66,

shoot to 73 after things had settled down a bit, and it hit him, then goes out on Sunday and shoot 65 to create some noise. Yeah, we're never seeing a player get arrested on a day in a major when they're playing. It's never happened before, it's never happening again. Last one. I think all of the guys that left the PGA tour for Liv,

I think the one the PGA, the fans, and even other golfers miss the most as Bryson. I think Bryson is a great example of a lot happen fast because he's an elite player. I mean, Bryson's a blue chipper. So he gets to the tour really fast. He's a weird guy. And it was a lot for people to handle. And felt like he was too weird. Then he got big and started hitting bombs.

So he brought, he crossed over sports. So before it's just golf people. Like, oh, this Bryson guy's kind of weird. All his clubs are the same size. Has a weird swing. Wears a weird hat. Kind of a quirky cat. And then he gets big.

like he's playing defensive tackle for the L.A. Rams. Like, what is going on here? And he crosses over the sports line where casual people start paying attention to him. And then he gets in this thing with Brooks, who's well-liked, because he's kind of this cool guy. And everyone kind of sides with Kepka because he's winning majors. Bryson's the nerd.

And then he's like, everyone hates me. I'm going to live. and since then he's gotten skinnier again, seems a little more relaxed, is dominating. I mean, he was awesome last year at the PGA championship. He was right there at the Masters. He easily could have won this tournament.

He's still the longest hitter. So, like, what did make him kind of cool, the bombs, he's swinging out of his ass. Even Zander, who, I don't know, top five long guy on PJ Tour, is like, I wanted no part of a playoff with Bryson because he hits it so far. I mean, he is just hitting these rope draws. I mean, rope draws.

When he misses, you're like, he better hold on for his ass. This thing could go anywhere. But I think people now, I watch his YouTube's, he's just a content creator. He's a content machine. He's fun. And this is what Liv did to the PGA tour. They took away the people that moved the emotional needle.

You can't have a sport league, whether it's football, basketball, baseball, hockey. I don't care what. people you hate and people that when you bring them up some people are going to love them some people are going to hate them you bring up jordan spith everyone's going to have a positive thing to say beside his games a little off but like oh like that guy you bring it start bringing up live guys patrick reed bryson even kepka it's like what the fuck is that guy's deal you know phil is like god that's crazy the pga tour lost all of that and bryson's a needle mover and it was clear i saw

someone the day after the PJ Championship, they posted all the YouTube's of the press conferences. Zander won the thing, and Bryson had almost 3xed the views at his press conference. So yeah, he's missed. There's no doubt about it.

He's a massive, massive star name. His power to me is casuals. Everyone that Falls Golf knows Sergio Garcia or Tommy Fleetwood, right? but the power of Tiger, the power of Phil, the power when Speed was big, or Rory, is that like football fans or basketball people.

They just know the name. And they kind of got some idea. It doesn't mean they're watching tournaments, but they're paying attention. And then if on Saturday or Sunday in a major, it's like, hey, Bryson Deschambeau is winning. You'll flip it on. You're not doing that for Tommy Fleetwood. You're not doing that for a lot of random guys.

Victor Hovland. I like these players. I'm going to watch it. But the reason golf needs these other people is they get a different crowd. No one's ever done it before and probably ever will do it like Tiger Woods. And when you get Tiger Woods, you're a rocket ship to the bank. And that's what the tour is in a weird spot. And Liv has all these people, but no one cares about what they're doing.

So it's just a shitty spot for all. And I'm with you. Bryson's missed. I miss watching Bryson. on a weekly basis. I wish Bryson was at Colonial. I wish Bryson was playing at the Memorial. That sucks.

We all get the short end of the stick with the separation because we don't get to watch him on a weekly basis. Because he plays a lot, too. That's the thing. It's not like Bryson's playing 10 times a year when he was on the PJ tour. He played a lot. And you're right.

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