The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Go Low - John Rahm withdraws, Scottie is the best, who should rival Scheffler
Episode Date: June 12, 2024John reacts to the news that John Rahm is withdrawing from the US Open due to a foot/toe issue, what this means for the rest of his season, and this weekend at the US Open. Later, John dives into the ...greatness that is Scottie Scheffler and if he think Scottie will be at the top of the leaderboard on Sunday, who should be Scottie's rival, and finally, despite Tiger not being relevant in tournaments, watching his son Charlie slowly turn into a professional has been great to watch. Lastly, John answers your questions during this episode's mailbag segment. 7:01 - John Rahm withdraws 14:34 - Scottie Scheffler is the best in the world 19:45 - Who should be Scottie's rival 34:25 - Mailbag Follow John on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube for the latest. Check out Gametime - the fastest growing ticketing app in the US, and the official ticketing app of 3 & Out and GoLow - for tickets to all of your favorite NFL, NBA, NHL, NCAA teams. Concert and comedy show tickets, too. Go to Gametime now to create an account, download the app and use code JOHN for $20 off your first purchase. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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What is going on, everybody?
Happy U.S. Open Week at Pinehurst, a little go-low podcast.
talking a little golf.
Right before I jumped on,
we had some breaking news that John Rom,
who is a U.S. Open champion himself,
withdrew with some foot fungus or something.
So that's a pretty big story.
Obviously, the biggest story in golf is
the former, I guess he wasn't a convicted felon,
but he had felony charges coming his way.
They're no longer.
Scotty Schaeffler wins again at Jackson.
place in Ohio, wins Memorial, has now won five times as having a historic season and heads
into this tournament as the clear heavy favorite and a guy that I think, probably you think,
is going to win.
So it's kind of sad because at one point in time, we thought Rom and Scotty were going to
have a little rivalry.
Now, Rom's kind of irrelevant, and Scottie's dominating.
But I do think it poses a question.
and does Scotty Sheffler need a rival.
And I've seen a lot of names thrown out there.
One name I never seen throw out there that I actually think kind of fits the bill,
I want to discuss him because I'm going to hammer him.
I actually think he's got a chance to win this week.
We'll obviously dive into some gambling if you're going to bet Scotty, right,
because he's only three to one.
You know, some parlayes, some other guys you can put with Morikawa, Zander,
Fleetwood, Hadecki, guys that are playing well and really fit this course.
And then some thoughts on just Charlie Woods out there with his dad.
A couple weeks ago, we had Bob McIntyre win in Canada with his dad on the bag.
I think a big part of golf is for most of us we get into the game because our fathers start us off and want to dive into that.
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Okay, before we dive into Scotty, the big news today was John Rom with Drew.
He withdrew last week in Houston, I think a couple holes, maybe six holes into the second round.
and he showed up today at a press conference with a shoe
and a sandal with some band-aids over his toes
and now is not playing in the U.S. Open.
And there's no way to sugarcoat this.
It has been a disastrous season for John Rom.
Obviously, Liv has impacted different guys different ways.
Last year, Kepka wins a major
and was right in the hunt to win the Masters as well.
So he's a guy who clearly.
can get up for tournaments unfaced.
Bryson is the ideal candidate because he's kind of a lone wolf.
He can do his YouTube stuff, and we'll dive into him later this podcast.
I think he has a very, very good chance to win this week.
But you look at John Rom, a year ago today, he was essentially the best player in the world.
He had won three times on the PGA tour.
Then he won the Masters, and coming into this tournament, he had previously won.
won it in 2021.
And we were all looking on this guy going, hey, if Scottie figures out his putting, we got a rivalry with
this elite international Spaniard, complete ass kicker, multiple major winner.
This guy, Scotty Sheffler, who looks fantastic, he just got to figure out the putter, already
has a major championship.
And then at the end of the season, John Rom went to live.
And his comments since, you know, I don't think he loves it.
Clearly doesn't like the format, but they put a number.
in front of his face that he could not turn down.
Something, for example, the Lakers did not do.
The more I've had time to marinate on the Lakers offer,
$70 million is a boatload of money to 99.99% of people.
And all of us are not turning down $70 million.
But in that situation, not a great offer.
Anytime you put out a number in front of a human
where no is a possibility, the number is not high enough.
that's the way it was early on for John Rom, and then they got up. It's reported $300,400 million.
I don't give a shit who you are, unless you're Tiger Woods and a billionaire. You're not turning
that down, and ultimately he did not. But this season is kind of an embarrassment. Now, I'm not one.
I was just sick. You never know a different guy's pain tolerance, what they're going through.
But, you know, this feels very golf. A couple people texted me from the grounds. They're like,
Like, he just withdrew with athletes' foot.
Clearly, he's in pain, but this is where the bar Tiger set was so high.
Tiger has withdrawn from tournaments over the course of his career.
But how many times have we seen him hit the ground because his knee or back's not working?
So, like, this sucks.
And I think the reason this sucks is we lost a guy who was an elite player,
and he now feels kind of irrelevant.
and the problem is he was someone
that was very predicated on the juice of these tournaments
if you lost watch last week and I did
Scott E Sheffler win the memorial. It was pretty sweet
Liv can't sniff that
there is no way for them to replicate that
and John Rom thrived in that environment
and became the best player in the world
and what looked like a guy that could be like the next SEVy.
A guy win 6-7 majors, a guy win 30, 35 tournaments,
and just have an all-time career.
And maybe whenever this merger comes to fruition,
which I ain't waiting for it anymore,
we get back the juice of this player.
But last year, for example,
he wins the tournament of champions,
chases down Colin Morikawa who had a big lead.
Then he wins at Amex, kind of a joke to.
tournament. Then he's third at the waste management, wins at RIV, wins the Masters, he's top
10 in the U.S. Open, he finishes second in the British Open. It just has a fantastic season.
And now we get a guy who's struggling to make the cut at majors and has to withdraw because
of some weird foot injury. Obviously injuries you can't control. It happens. Zalotoris had a
back. Kepka had a knee. Shit happens. But there's no sugar-coating this, given the star that
has become Scotty Sheffler, a guy who's having a Tiger Woods season. Forever was like, can we
compare this to Tiger Woods? There's no disputing it anymore. This many wins, this early, a major,
heavy favorite. It would be a shocking achievement of someone else wins this weekend. And this guy,
who was his equal, is now just irrelevant. There's no way around it. It's sad. It sucks. And just as a
fan of golf, like this is a guy, there's 10 guys.
entering this tournament who can win.
I know there are 150 plus in the field.
There are 10 guys who have a legitimate chance to win.
I would imagine, obviously we don't know it has to play out.
Eight to nine of them are top 15, 20 players in the world.
Then they'll be a random guy.
But this is big hitters, elite.
I don't mean necessarily hitting it far.
I just mean big time players only.
And that's where John Rom was.
And now, a year later, he doesn't feel like that.
and thank God for Scotty Schaeffler.
I said this before, and I'll say it again,
and nothing awful happened
beside the person losing their life,
which he had nothing to do with at the PJ Championship.
I do believe, because Scotty's boring.
Like, if you just YouTube, Tiger Woods,
it's remarkable to watch.
His animation, how excited he gets,
the miracles he's pulling out of his, you know what,
Tiger did not hit the ball straight.
So a lot of his great shots are like hitting it around trees,
hitting it out of the bunker over trees,
not just like, oh, he's 175, he's going to knock at three feet.
Obviously, he can do that.
But most of his memorable moments throughout his career,
a crazy flop shot off the Green at Memorial
was just the highest level of how did he pull that off.
Phil Mickelson had a lot of that.
Jordan Speeth in his like two-year greatness run
was basically Phil just the right-handed version.
It was just sweet to watch.
Scotty's kind of boring.
Now, he's kicking everyone's ass consistently.
And I think it would be, from a gambling perspective, he's going to win this tournament.
It would be shocking if he doesn't win this tournament.
And he would be in the midst of the greatest single season we've seen since Tiger Woods.
I don't even think that's really debatable.
We've seen guys since then win multiple majors in the tournament.
same season, but not have the wins. I mean, he won the players, he won at Bay Hill,
and he won at Memorial. And I think we all feel he's going to win the Tour Championship,
and he'll probably win another tournament non-major throughout the rest of the season. This guy's
going to end up with. He currently has $24 million this year in on-course earnings. Last year,
Hovlin had an incredible season. He made $36 million. Scottie Schaeffler is on track, I think,
give or take, to have a $50 million on the course.
That doesn't count his other sponsors.
Obviously Nike, because of the level in which he's playing,
I would imagine he's having a $20 million Nike season.
This guy's going to make $70 million this season.
So one thing some of these guys benefited from
because the live guys took off that we said,
how are they ever going to make that type money?
And Scotty Sheffler and Hovlin are proving,
if you play well on the PGA tour,
you can have a 24-month stretch where you make $100 million.
And you don't have to play all these stupid tournaments that, let's face it,
none of these live guys feel very excited to do play.
They're doing it because they got paid,
which is the reason a lot of people in America work,
because you're paying me to do it.
And for a long period of time, it felt like guys like to compete.
Obviously, in the NFL and the NBA, they get paid a lot,
but when the ball tips in big games or the ball is snapped or kicked off,
there's an excitement level as a competitor.
Liv does not have that.
The PJ tour still brings that to the table.
And just, I'm a independent consumer.
I just like watching fun shit.
I'm all into the NHL playoffs.
I am glued into the Stanley Cup.
I have a little money dabbled on Edmonton,
but it's just a fantastic product.
the level in which they compete, the intensity,
how much you know it means, the history of it,
no different than the NBA finals.
I don't watch as much NBA now as I did throughout the majority of my life,
but the playoffs still matter.
I know what's on the line.
I know the history of being a finals MVP,
winning a ring, what that means for guys' career,
what it means to not win a ring.
And that's what you watch Memorial.
You know what's on the line.
You know Tiger won there five times.
You know it's Jack Nicholas's tournament.
And you watch Scotty just embracing all this and playing at the level in which he's playing.
But like I said, that arrest in Louisville is the best thing that ever happened to him.
Because he's not that interesting of a guy.
And really his play, he's not that animated.
He's not doing crazy fist pumps.
He's not dropping F bombs.
He's not must watch in terms of all the.
extracurricular stuff.
But he's much watch in terms of
now he's winning at the rate
because we love winners in America.
And when you add in the arrest
that it looked like it was going to derail
I don't know something
and it didn't really at all.
And I bet on him two weeks later
when Davis Riley, where were they playing in Texas,
had a career week
and Scotty was still right there.
Finish second.
So it's been
really, really entertaining to watch.
And I think his legend grew, and now we can laugh at it because of that mugshot,
because they put him in an orange jumpsuit, and then he continues to answer the bell.
This is not, like Michael Jordan was the best player, and his team's really good, for the most part,
he's going to win if he plays well.
Golf's not like that.
You're playing 150 people, and if you have one bad round of the four rounds, it's really
easy to just finish 7th, even if you're Tiger Woods or Arnie Palmer or Jack Nicholas or Nick
Faldo, whoever. And every fucking week, it's like, this guy's going to win. This guy's going to win.
This guy's going to win. Sometimes I laugh when people talk about the odds. Like, you know, Tiger's
odds in 2001, we did not. I consumed sports. I followed sports religiously. Obviously, gambling is
legal now, so we talk about it much differently. People were not gambling. I mean, you had to be a true
true degenerate Billy Walters.
Gambling now, the accessibility, the odds over the last, I would say decade, but really five, six years.
To me, the odds mean a lot more because the way we're discussing it.
And this guy going into majors is three to one.
We're like, yeah, probably right.
Like, would it be crazy if you put them two to one?
Like, what is the number, you couldn't put them minus 100, right?
Or minus 110 because it's still a golf tournament.
but he is creeping closer and closer
to basically being a one-to-one
favorite to win a golf tournament
against 150 other people
where elite players are 16 to 1,
20 to 1, 25 to 1
what this guy is doing right now
is just remarkable.
I mean, it is, to me it's must-watch TV
and I think the arrest kind of brings in the casual fan
because his name recognition.
He's not Caitlin Clark or Patrick Mahomes
in terms of name recognition.
But I think if you're a casual guy,
you're like, I'm not a big golf guy,
but I'll pay attention to some majors.
You know exactly who Scotty Sheffler is,
and you know exactly kind of what's going on right now,
that essentially he wins every single week.
Now, part of to grow this brand, you need a rival.
Tiger's a once-in-a-hundred-year player.
Whether he had a rival or didn't, it wasn't going to matter.
He was a comet ship on his own.
For the most part, players need someone that is at least viewed as a foe, if not an equal.
And right now, Scottie does not have that.
Colin Moracawa, whatever he did early on this season to figure it out, he looks freaking awesome.
He was awesome at the Memorial.
He was awesome at the PGA Championship.
He was awesome at the Masters.
He looks fantastic.
I think he is an auto top five, top 10 bet this week.
He is Taylor.
He could win this turn.
but if Scotty's right there, you're like, he's not going to beat Scotty Sheffler.
Zander Shaflin, who has had an elite career, finally got over the hump at Valhalla,
is having statistically, and you could argue the best year of his career.
Another guy, I think an auto top 10, top five bet.
Are either one of those guys going to be Scotty's rival?
Don't really see it.
Not saying those guys can't win and have, continue to have great careers and even win another major or two,
But Tiger had Phil, who I think when you look back, you go,
I don't know where Phil ranks, you know, Tiger, Jack, one, two, in some order.
And then there's a group of five or six guys.
Phil's a top ten player of all time.
And you could argue he's closer to five than he is ten.
But the rivalry, those two guys, it was a rivalry more by, yes, Tiger and Phil,
but Tiger dominated him.
But Phil was like a worthy, worthy foe.
and I think Ernie L's, I would throw him right up there.
I actually think the guy, and this is the sad part about the division in golf,
is Bryson D. Shambo, because one thing Phil had was, like, Phil was pretty famous.
So to have, like, a legit foe at the highest level of pro sports,
that guy's got to be pretty famous, right? Larry and Magic.
Michael kind of went through a rotation of him, but LeBron and Curry,
Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson.
Forever it was Manning and Brady.
I think Bryson has a chance to be the most famous golfer.
I'm not saying better than Scotty, but his fame, dude's a killer.
This guy, if he was an NFL player, we talk about Bryson D. Shambo, like the number one high school recruit,
the number one college player, and has come into the NFL and dominated and gone to Pro Bowls constantly.
He obviously won a U.S. Open.
Not the best U.S. Open.
It was basically just hit it straight a million feet
and pump wedges onto the green.
But to me, Bryson's more closely a four or five major win guy
than he is a one major win guy.
The other thing I think he's kind of become comfortable with who he is.
He's nerdy.
Didn't have a lot of friends on the PGA tour.
A lot of people, I think, rumors were people didn't like him very much.
Whether he was a bad guy, immature guy, whatever,
that's a fact.
And now it feels like he's
relaxed a little bit,
but he's still an elite player.
And live, whether he played on Live,
whether he played on the Corn Fairy Tour,
whether he played on the Asian Tour,
I don't think Bryson would be faced
because he loves golf
to his soul,
a lot like Phil,
a lot like Tiger Woods,
a lot like Scotty Shephyr.
They are addicts.
Like the reason Patrick Mahomes
is so good. Obviously he's physically gifted. He's a 24-7 football addict. Same thing with
Peyton Manning. Same thing with Tom Brady. Same thing with Drew Bree. Same thing with Christian McCaffrey.
Same thing with LeBron James. Same thing with Steph Curry. This is not just, yeah, we do this for a job.
We make a lot of money. No, this is a deep, driven passion of mind. And the other thing with
Bryson is he's become a showman. And really since he got big and was sucking down all those, you know,
the protein shakes and the peanut butter sandwiches and just put on an extra 30 pounds and he starts
bombing it over the water pointing at the sky.
I think Bryson figured something out.
Whether you like him, whether you hate him, whether you think he's a nerd or whatever,
you are dialed in when he's playing.
And I like him a lot this week.
And I would love, I mean, I'd pay for it to get these two guys in the mix on Saturday and
Sunday.
Now, this tournament is, from all accounts of everyone on the ground, is going to be really
hard. The greens look like
they're concrete. Obviously, there's
not rough at this course, like
there is at traditional golf courses,
but there's the native land,
you can miss it into weird
spots, and it can become very difficult.
If you hit fairways, it's a second shot golf course.
But it's also pretty long, like it's
7,600 yards. And
Scottie Shepler hits long irons
really well. Bryson
Deschambeau, a lead at it.
Colin Morikawa, pretty freaking
good. Same thing was Andrew Shafley.
To me, that's the group I'm betting on.
I have a ton of...
The problem is for me to get my rocks off,
I'd have to put a couple grand on Scotty at three to one.
So I was like, you know, I'm going to parlay him with a lot of people.
And I have a million parlayes mixed up with Scotty and Colin and Bryson and Zander
and even a little Fleetwood as top tens and top 20s.
Hadecki's another guy.
Elite ball striker.
fantastic short game
going to be in the mix
so this is going to be
a big name tournament
obviously it's going to be shocking if Scotty doesn't
win but I think
this is and hopefully so
where the kind of rivalry begins
with Scotty and Bryson
because I just I don't
I don't think it's doing it for the casual
with Morcawa and Zander
despite how great those players are
Bryson kind of evokes a motion
deep in your soul when you watch them
If you like sports, I kind of want to watch this.
Something's there.
Something's going on.
And sometimes athletes just have that.
When I was a kid, like, I'm not a big tennis guy, but, and I didn't know I was going to be bald at the time,
even though my entire family didn't have a blade of hair on top of their head.
I loved Agassi.
Something about Agassi.
Why?
Because you watched him, he just created emotion inside you.
And we've seen it forever with football and basketball players.
Same with baseball players when I was younger.
But in these individual sports, you need some characters.
And to me, Bryson is the ultimate mix of character, weird, out there, unlike anyone else, and an elite player.
So I hope Bryson brings his A game.
He has a ton of momentum coming into this, played well at Augusta, played awesome at the PGA.
And like I said, I don't think he's phased by the irrelevancy of these lived golf tournaments.
I don't think he's phased at all.
now I don't you know there's a lot of other names out there
Rory count me out
though love is not dead
I just saw they're going to reconcile him and his wife
when it comes to their divorce so no longer divorce
Kepka I hammered Kepka
at some of the earlier major was like I'm out I'm just not going to do it
not saying that he can't do it but I'm not going to mess around with that
and it's sad I mean DJs like 75 or 80 to 1
but should be fun, should be fun.
So from a recommendation standpoint of gambling,
I think if you want some action on Scotty,
you can put a hundred bucks Scotty to win
and then parlay some top fives and top tens
with the Xanders, with the Morikawa's,
with the Brysons, with the Hedekyes, with the Fleetwoods.
This is a ball strikers golf course.
So I need guys from 180 yards, 190 yards, 200 yards,
they can pelt the middle of the green
because there are a lot of runoffs on this golf course,
you get put in some weird spots.
Hovlin is an interesting guy.
Is a short game good enough?
But he's definitely shown some signs of life.
He would definitely be a wild card for me.
If you want to put him in some parlays,
I wouldn't be against that at all.
But like I said, overall,
have a hard time seeing Scotty not win this tournament.
And before we dive into some mailbag questions,
I think the cool part about golf,
for most of us,
we start because our dad takes us.
I mean, the first time you usually play golf,
is playing with your dad.
And it's a powerful connection.
And as someone that lost his dad,
sometimes I get kind of emotional in golf tournaments
when you win a tournament
and one of the first people you see after
is your parents and you hug your dad.
And it's why I always, you know,
I think it's cool.
Justin Thomas and his father,
Zander and his father.
The relationship you have,
a lot of these guys,
their coach ends up being his father.
I mean, the most famous duel of all time
is Earl and Tiger,
which, you know, Earl got him into the game.
but Earl was always smart, like gave him other coaches,
like never tried to be his swing coach,
was really more of his mental warfare coach.
And I tweeted this out a couple months ago,
or maybe I Instagram commented,
and a bunch of people were like,
what are you talking about?
Charlie Woods, his experience of Tiger,
as he gets into his mid-teens,
like, obviously he saw him win in 2019,
The Masters and that big hug,
and that was really cool.
But now that he's,
He's become a competitive young golfer and obviously loves the game, practices with his dad.
His dad is nowhere near, obviously.
I don't expect him to ever be competitive again.
He does look cool like Sundays, Mondays, Tuesdays, and Wednesdays of the practice rounds,
but I have no expectations for Tiger.
But for Charlie to be able to see firsthand how hard his dad works at this point in time of his career
and then be at these tournaments to see the reverence all these elite guys have for his father,
it's got to be a really, really powerful thing
because Charlie will never get to experience
what Tiger looked like in 2002 or 2000 or 2005, obviously.
I mean, you can watch it on YouTube,
but I say it all the time,
if you're ever going to argue about somebody in sports,
whether it be your dad or whether it be about someone,
if you don't experience it past like 13, 14 years old,
it's hard to go back on YouTube.
I can't describe John Elway in this prime,
or Magic Johnson and Larry Bird in there.
Prime. I can watch YouTube's and tell you stats and know from other people talking and read books,
but like if you live through Michael Jordan, if you live through Tiger Woods, if you live through
Manning and Brady, I can argue that until I'm blue in the face. And one thing I always respect
about guys is Tiger does not need to be doing this at all. He's a billionaire, his accomplishments
speak for themselves, yet he keeps trying. Maybe it's he's bored.
But Charlie gets to have a firsthand look, and I do think it'll benefit him.
Who knows how good he'll end up being.
But it's definitely, like, I'm a sap for that.
I think it's really, really cool to watch.
I was sick after the McIntyre Canadian win.
I thought that was one of the more cool moments.
And that's again, I'm not just trying to shit on Live,
because I really don't even care about Live.
But that's what the PGA Tour brings to the table.
That moment with his father cadding is as cool as it gets.
I mean, that was as powerful a moment as those guys hugging, his dad saying that he cuts grass for a living.
And McIntyre saying that this guy got me into golf, he's the reason I'm here.
And to win that moment, McIntyre could go on one day and win a major.
He could go on and win another Ryder Cup as a teammate.
I don't think anything will be able to duplicate that feeling of doing it with his father.
Obviously, it's the first PGA tour win, but that's stuff you write in a storybook.
And I think a huge part of golf, and a lot of you guys listening that are my age, give or take, in your 30s or 40s, have young children.
It's just something you can do with your son or daughter.
And the cool thing is you're able to do that until you die.
Because golf is really the only sport that if you can walk in your semi-healthy, you can be playing into your mid-70s, 80s.
Like you're not playing pickup hoops at 60 years old
You're not you're not playing tennis at 60
You can play the fat man's tennis pickleball
Which I think is the most overrated sport in the history of America
But golf something that is pretty special that way
And I'm a sucker for any father-son related golf moment
And I love I'm obviously a big tiger guy
But I think this Charlie
Just having him around is
It's been really really cool to watch
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Okay, let's answer a couple questions on at go low pod Instagram.
We will start with Gus.
When people ask for course wrecks in Scottsdale, tell them to check out Kierland.
Totally agree.
Kierland is behind a hotel.
I think it's JW or it's a really nice hotel, nice Hyatt or something.
and it's much more open.
I played there with my brother last year, I think.
It's just an easy,
there's not as much desert lining.
You can pump it into other fairways.
You got a lot of room.
You got a lot of room.
And that's something sometimes with golf in Arizona,
specifically the Scottsdale area,
depending on where you play,
like you spray it around a little bit,
you're with the rattlesnakes.
You're like, I'm not even looking in those bushes.
So Kierlin is definitely a question.
course. And if you come in the summer in Arizona, golf's relatively cheap.
Legend Trail played there as well. Much more kind of a little tighter, but it's a cool
track. Cool little area. It's North Scottsdale played there. Rancho Mniana, super short and
narrow in the hills. Never played there before. Legend Trail, though, I played there several years
ago, and I'm with you. I thought it was a cool track.
Okay, for the mailbag.
I have an idea for international golf.
What if they got to a four-year cycle?
Year one, the Olympics.
Year two, the President's Cup.
Year three, the Ryder Cup.
Year four, a new cup between Europe and the world.
This way we get to see more of these players against each other,
more courses, new rivalries,
while also giving the U.S. a break every once in a while.
the captain for a team is the captain for the whole cycle
which makes it more of a real position
and something they have to take seriously
and finally the captain of the team not playing
gets to set up the course for the other two
this eliminates the massive data advantages
we've seen in recent rider cups and president's cups
the problem with this is
there's no connection
the rider cup i'm pretty sure is an independent
entity and the President's Cup is, I'm pretty sure owned by the PGA of America, they have no
connection to the Olympics. So I don't think they really care. Right. If you run the President's
Cup and it's every two years, well, this is an Olympic year. Well, that's, I don't give a shit.
So I think the hard, this is, speaks to the overall issues we have in golf is there's so much
division. This guy wants this. This guy wants this. This tour wants to do this. It's why I think they've
struggled with this merger. Rory has these ideas. These other guys don't want to leave America.
Like, live doesn't want to play that many events. They only want to play 54 holes. I think it's
very, very difficult to get individuals on the same page. It's why it's much easier in the NBA or
the NFL. You're all under the same umbrella. So even when there are some differing of opinions,
It's all for the better good, you know, the long-term outlook of the business,
where it's like, you know, I got some business over here, I want to do this,
I want to play these tournaments.
I think you're kind of on to something.
I think, though, it's a Hail Mary in terms of,
we've seen how difficult it is to get anyone to agree.
It doesn't work.
They don't agree on anything.
And I think the big struggle, one thing Liv has done a good job of is go international.
But guess what?
The American players do not want to play international.
They're too rich.
It's too big a pain in the ass.
I mean, they'll do it when the British Open is going down.
And they'll play the Scottish before.
But, like, they don't want to do a random trip to Australia in November.
They just don't.
And that's the problem.
Now, you can argue is, like, J.T. and Speed and Cantlay and some of these guys, like, do they matter that much?
Like, who wants to go, go?
We've seen, like, the fields and the names matter.
but not getting them to go because there aren't like that Canadian open that place was
rocking that place the they should have multiple Canadian tournaments they should have
they should definitely have whenever this is figured out something in Australia you want to do stuff
where things matter right why does football thrive in the South because they love it so golf
which is played worldwide,
why wouldn't you want to play in the places that love golf?
It's not even about quote unquote growing the game.
It's just an awesome television experience.
It's why the Ryder Cup pops so much on TV
because of the passion in the stands.
It's one thing we learned in 2020 and 2021.
If you don't put people in the stands,
it's not as good of a product.
It's actually a pretty awful product.
No way around it.
When people are in the stands and the place is rocking,
It's fucking sweet.
I'm not the biggest UFC guy,
but you watch one of these UFC
fights.
And the place, 18,000 people,
the walkouts, you're like,
God, this feels huge.
And that's what you get at some of these events.
The majors have always had that.
But I don't know.
I don't feel very confident or bullish
on where we're headed
because of just the natural division
of the way these guys are wired.
And they're also rich now.
It's hard to get super rich, independent guys to get on the same page.
It's a major, major challenge, as we've learned.
Long-time listener, me and my buddies are beginner golfers
and are headed to a bachelor party in Sedona in a couple weeks.
Any recommendations for a high handicap courses out there?
You know, it's funny as I've lived here now full-time since 2022.
So about full-time, about it.
two years now.
24 months.
I've never been to Sedona.
Maria just went
probably less than a month ago with her mom.
It's obviously beautiful, but I've never been up there,
so obviously never played golf.
Hey, John, I don't usually reach out,
but after listening to your most recent episode,
I just want to thank you.
Your take on Grayson was raw, intriguing, thought-provoking.
In my line of work, I deal with a lot of people
that deal with mental health, issues, alcoholism,
being purely a symptom.
You captured this very well,
and I feel truly happy, respectful.
I also love the points on Bryson and couldn't agree more.
Couldn't stand him on the PGA tour.
I'm a Brooks fan, but every major the last two years feeling what could have been.
Thanks for entertainment.
Yeah, I saw they, you know, Grayson got a locker at the U.S. Open.
Obviously, he would have been there having won earlier this year.
And I think I read last week, where were they last week?
At Memorial, they did like a celebration of life.
I think I could be wrong.
It was on the first T.
And all the players and caddies and everyone went out there.
It was like a Monday or Tuesday.
And Scotty talked.
And they don't have video of it or anything.
I read an article and Scotty was in tears half the time.
It's just sucks.
Big time sucks.
Well, I guess we'll end on that.
So enjoy the U.S. Open.
And like I said, I think if you, everyone like Scotty to,
win. But if you want a little better odds, you know, I think parlaying him with Colin to top
five or top ten, Bryson, Hadecki, Fleetwood, Zander, those are my names because I want ball
strikers, I want guys who have had success in majors and guys that are playing well right now.
I'd be stunned if Zander is not in the top 10. I think it's very probable that Moracawa
finishes, if he doesn't win, finish his second or third.
I actually dabbled a little on Bryson to win.
I think he could win.
And I think he's going to be in the mix.
So I love these majors.
I love the U.S. Open when they go to courses that we don't get to see very often.
I've never played Pinehurst.
But I'm excited.
I like carnage, too.
I like it to be very challenging.
So let's have a good couple days.
And good luck making some money.
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