The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Go Low - Reaction to Scottie Scheffler DOMINATING British Open

Episode Date: July 21, 2025

John Middlekauff reacts to Scottie Scheffler winning the British Open in spectacular fashion. John debates whether Scottie will complete the career Grand Slam next year at the U.S. Open, as well as if he is on a Tiger Woods-like trajectory. John also reacts to the Wyndham Clark controversy and wraps up with a Middlekauff Mailbag to answer your golf questions. 03:51- Scottie Scheffler wins British Open28:03 - Colin Morikawa33:19 - Wyndham Clark39:44 - Mailbag39:51 - Where does Scottie Scheffler ranks all time?43:38 - How soon does Scottie win U.S. Open?45:33 - NBC production of the Open50:35 - Hitting straight shots53:14 - Grant Horvat at Barrucuda Championship56:52 - Playing at the Phonecian58:55 - Value in taking golf lessons61:33 - Golfing in Arizona63:18 - How close is Scottie to Tiger Woods?64:38 - Ryder Cup longshots68:08 - How many majors does Scottie win? Follow John on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube for the latest. Check out Gametime - the fastest growing ticketing app in the US, and the official ticketing app of 3 & Out and GoLow -  for tickets to all of your favorite NFL, NBA, NHL, NCAA teams. Concert and comedy show tickets, too. Go to Gametime now to create an account, download the app and use code JOHN for $20 off your first purchase. #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Me and Coward went immediately after Scotty won and recorded a little reaction as well as some other stuff. talked about the WNBA players getting ready to boycott for more money. Barstool coming on the airways of Fox leading into Coward. Your boy actually might be going back, I think at the end of August, middle toward the end of August. So we'll keep you updated there. But I did want to do a go-low podcast today because obviously the last major of the year just happened. Scottie Schaeffler wins his second major this year. He's one major away now, the U.S. Open from the career Grand Slam.

So we will talk a little bit about a guy becoming a legend in front of our eyes. As well as, listen, I've compared him and Rory and early on. I thought Rory was playing with the best player in the world. It turned out that that lasagna was the meatball, whatever Scotty was trying to cook and cut his hand, the impact that had early on the season, Scotty's still the best player in the world, obviously. But we'll kind of dive into Rory, Bryson, maybe just some other highlights, as well as lowlights from this week. Because we have a couple guys on the American Rider Cup team.

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So you can fire in those DMs. We still got the playoffs. We got Live Golf. I think me and Coward might do a broadcast from Live Golf Chicago in like three weeks. So I'm efforting to try to get Mickelson. I want him to come. I don't know exactly how the setup's going to be, but we need to get Phil talking football with me and Coward. So that is something that I'm aspiring and like my ambitions going into this if we do some sit down.

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The transfusion five hour energy shots, a whole and one flavor sensation by now on five hour energy.com. We just witnessed a guy becoming a legend. and I think what's cool, and this is why I love sports, I've said it forever. I'm a small school guy. I went to Cal Poly. Our football program won is D1A, and it's not very good. Then obviously I got involved in football at a much higher level at Fresno State,

but it was still on the West Coast, always overshadowed by the USC's, the Oregon's, the Washington's. Hell, even played second fiddles to programs like Cal and UCLA. So I understand the plight of small school people, small business owners. My dad was involved in one. I did not grow up with a bunch of people that went to USC that ran Fortune 500 companies. These weren't my people in life. I grew up in a small town. But as a sports consumer, I always loved the Big Fish.

I was a diehard Michael Jordan guy in the mid-90s like I would imagine many kids around the country my favorite athlete of all time even more than Michael would be Tiger Woods I always love watching sports for greatness

for Tom Brady for Peyton Manning you know for the best in the biggest moments and that's what Tiger really excelled at he was this absolute rocket ship from when I was a kid and then he just started

winning the biggest tournaments over and over and over again. Now, he transcended the sport. He became a cultural icon, especially a marketing power behind them that we've probably never seen and might never see again. Him and Michael, I would say, are pretty unparalleled when it comes to their ability to push a product. I mean, the Jordan brand is still as strong as ever financially. and Michael hasn't played in over two decades.

Obviously, Tiger doesn't quite have the power that he once had in his heyday, but I've said forever, when you see Scotty Sheffler and Rory McElroy and even other guys wearing that Nike swoosh on the golf course, it feels a lot different because the guy that normalized that. And listen, I don't have an outfit and haven't really my entire professional career because I worked in a business where guys wore basketball shorts and T-shirts to work on the practice field. to the radio and podcast world where we can wear anything. But most of you and like my little brother and most people in my life that are in more formal settings that either have, you know,

consistent meetings or go into an office consistently, Tiger Woods changed business casual. No one will ever be that. And what Tiger Woods did in the late 90s and specifically in 2000 might not ever happen again either when you factor in on and off the course. But there were a lot of stats that have come out since Scotty won this tournament a couple hours ago that there are some parallels. And here's the thing with Tiger. He kind of has two careers, right? The Tiger that won the Masters in 1997 and by the end of 2001, they had

something that they called a Tiger Slam because he won three straight majors and then going into the next year wins the Masters. So he had won four straight majors. And by then he's just racking them up and it looks like, is this guy going to win 100 majors? Now, obviously, it's slowed down a little bit, but like that version taking on the sport was unlike anything we'd ever seen. And that is not Scotty. And there is an element, you know, with Scotty that I think people are looking for, okay, some of these comps, because I thought a year ago, everyone's like, let's pump the brakes. He's only got two majors and they're both the masters. Can he win these other tournaments? And this year is like, yeah, I can. You want me to win the PGA and how about I win the Open as well, a tournament

that most of you thought that I couldn't play at. We all know that it's inevitable, I'm going to win a U.S. Open. Like, I don't know how many majors he's going to win. It's got to win seven. Is he going to win 10? Is he going to win six? I don't feel comfortable. My guess would be he'd be more likely to win eight or nine than he would five.

But listen, we see this all the time in all sports. Injuries happen. Variables happen. Other guys figure it out. It's not easy, even though he's making it look. easy. But Tiger Woods had multiple careers. Like the version in the late 90s, 2000, he became kind of a different guy in about 02 range. And a lot of people on Twitter have thrown this out. Like Tiger Woods between 02 and 05, where he would be considered just in that

period of time, an all-time great player, if that was his career, like a Terrell Davis situation, he would be a Hall of Famer, he would be a living legend. And when you compare it to Scotty from 2022 to 2025, so like a three-year span, 81 events, Tiger played 79, is very similar. Scottie has 20 wins, four majors, two players. Tiger had 18 wins, four majors, no players. And, you know, financially it's hard to comp because obviously guys are making way more now.

But like, we are getting a version of Tiger. It's not the most transcendent version of Tiger, which was 99, 2000, and going into 2000. where he was just, he was a force. I mean, it was like combining a great player, a cultural icon, a business tycoon. And listen, I talked about this with Colin. I think the one, obviously Scotty had the, I don't even want to call it a rant. He just gave an answer to a question and it went pretty viral.

He went on for a long time and you could argue he contradicted himself a little bit. But I think his overall message and my biggest takeaway was, I like to practice and I like the grind of golf when no one is bothering me more than like the spotlight and the adulation of holding the trophy and kind of being the celebrity. You know who didn't like that as well in a weird way is Tiger. Because when Tiger gave his Hall of Fame speech, I remember a couple years ago watching it on Golf Channel, the thing that kind of went viral of the speech was how much he enjoys

and he called it being in the dirt, being in the mud, grinding his way through it. When I think of Tiger Woods, I obviously think of a great champion, but I also think of one of the hardest workers the game has ever seen, a guy that loved to practice.

And before his body started betraying him, some of it self-inflicted, in his 20s, before he got married and his life changed, was a guy whose practice habits and schedule and workout prowess from sunup till sundown is pretty legendary. I'm sure many of you have seen the clip where they spliced Tiger talking about what he did compared to John Daly on a practice day.

I always thought being around when I got into football and Pat Hill and Andy Reed, football coaches like going to practice, like the grind of getting a practice script, preparing for practice, telling the players what they're going to do. do-it practice, going out on the practice field, and then correcting what happened on the practice field later that day in a meeting, as much as they do on Sunday. Obviously, the thrills of the high of game day, just like the thrills in the high of Scotty Sheffler on a Saturday or Sunday in a tournament, are second to none. You don't get those feels. But in terms of the love of what they do, it really shows through when the cameras are not on.

And Tiger always had this. He was great in both settings, right? Could grind when no one was paying attention for hours upon hours upon hours to do everything humanly possible to get better. And then when the lights were on, he could shine brighter than anyone else. Now, he had a flare for the dramatic.

He looked like no one else. His name was Tiger. Scotty's not really into that. Scotty actually looks like he's 40 years old, receding hairline. He's kind of got that Rafflesberger feel. It's like, wait, this guy's only 29, I thought he was 40 years old. But he hates all that other stuff.

He does not like the limelight, the fame. He does not want to be a celebrity. That's not what he's in this to do. Bryson D. Shambo enjoys the celebrity element that has been created around him, which he has helped create.

Scotty Sheffler does not. And I think part of what makes Scotty such like a head-scratching great player is he's actually kind of boring to watch. And a lot of people have said this historically, if you go back and watch a lot of Tiger tournaments, especially in his heyday, it wasn't as electric as you believed. Right? He was actually pretty boring, especially once he got a lead.

He would just strangle you. He was not going to screw up. His floor was so much, obviously their ceilings are the highest, but also their floors were sneaky extremely high because, you never thought, yeah, he's going to double 14 with a two-shot lead. Wasn't going to happen. He'll like hand me a five iron and I'll just hit the fairway. I'll make sure I get a par on this whole worst case of bogey.

And there's an element of Scotty. Now the difference is, and I would say that Tiger, Phil, Spieth and Rory, the foremost famous guys of the internet era, by far, were pretty entertaining. And Tiger had this much more Thursday, Friday, Saturday, where at any moment he could blast it anywhere off the tee. Wasn't that accurate. Same thing with Phil.

Now, the technology is so much different. Like, you watched Tiger, before he heard his leg, in like 2018, 2019, he was way more, he was way less erratic off the tea. Why? Because the technology. If you gave Peak Tiger Woods the technology of the day, he wouldn't have been, is chaotic off the tea, right? You watched Scotty over the last couple of days.

it's not that entertaining because part of Phil or Jordan what made you captivated by watching them is you thought at any moment they could lose the lead I mean Rory what we witnessed as at the Masters we're never going to see anything like that again Sunday at the Masters Rory McElroy is the craziest fucking golf tournament

like we have seen other guys meltdown or come back right at the last second but never a guy quite like him Phil had the meltdowns and then he lost. Tiger never had the meltdowns. Speeth has had the meltdowns and the comebacks he's had at all.

Rory, we never seen anything like that. And Scotty doesn't give us anything close to that. So we're always like shaking our heads. What are we getting here? And what we're getting here right now is a guy in the peak of his powers who's clearly on a tier above everyone else. I can be, I don't want to say hyperbolic,

but very emotional sometimes after an event, like reacting to something. And I did believe when Rory won the Masters when he factored in that he won pebble and he won the players, I'm like, no one is playing better than this guy. And it turns out the reason Scotty was not playing that well, the injury obviously really rattled him, right? And if you had told me that Rory was playing like that

and Scotty was just playing like he had played last year, I'd be like, they're the same. But Scottie was not playing that way. Once he figured out his hand, he's fucking dominated. I mean, he's lapped the field. So I am comfortable, which I'm not pretty, prisoner of the moment here, I do think like Bryson, he shot 78 and then he shot 16 under the next three days. Now, when you're down 28 to nothing at halftime and then the final score is 40 to 30,

if I just told you the final score was 40 to 30, but got it, I bet that was a pretty entertaining game. But if I told you the halftime score was 28 to nothing, one, the team with a huge lead usually just lets down their guard, and two, the team that is behind by a shitload of points can be like, well, we got nothing to lose. So there is an element of that. Like two things can be true. Bryson is an elite player. And he clearly is one of the top three guys. It goes, Scotty, and then the next tier to me is a clear two guys. It's Rory and Bryson. But Bryson's week and Rory's week, which I'm pretty sure, did they finish the same? So they finish. So they finish. finished one shot difference. Rory finished 10 under, Bryson finished 9-900. It was a little

different. I mean, Roy wasn't totally in the mix, like the last 27 holes because Scotty had such a big lead, but he was just like in the tournament. When you shoot 78, you kind of loosen up and you start firing a pins. Now today, like obviously the weather's not going, Bryson was playing really, really well. But like the one thing that's clear, and this is what I'm going to have consistent message going into next year and when the majors come, is like, we got a big three. And Scotty's clearly on a tier by himself, and then it's Rory and Scotty. Now, Zander has his moments. He proved a lot last year. The injury obviously slowed down a season, but I'm not putting him on the Bryson and Rory Tier. The ROM thing is a little bit

head scratching. I had high hopes for Rom coming into this tournament. Obviously, he had been in the mix at the PGA earlier this year. I saw someone commented, was like Middilkoff. Rom never had a chance to win. Scotty finished minus 11 and Rom was minus four. At the PGA. It's like, well, yeah, they were both minus nine when they were headed to the back nine on Sunday. And then Rom obviously melted down the last four or five holes and, you know, Scotty hit the accelerator. But like, that was a fact, right? There was a period of time where you thought with nine holes to go that John Rom could win it.

And a guy that's won multiple majors, clearly one of the best players in the world. Like, I want to put them in that tier. And then you watch weekends like this, it's hard to. Now, I would put Rom right under that next tier, like if we were doing like quarterback, rankings, but I do think that there is a gap. Now, sizable, like I think Rory and Bryson are better than everyone else. But like, if they're all on, and here's the scary thing with Scotty, which is someone like Tiger, somewhat like Tiger. If Tiger had his A game, he was beating everyone. It didn't matter if you had your A plus game, you had no chance to beat him. If Scottie

has his A game, he's beating every single person. But what's scary about Scottie, and this is what Tiger had, and Rory has this in events when Scottie's either way off or maybe not even there, if I play my B game, depending that week, especially in a major, most people are not going to be quote unquote their A game, most people are going to be at best, like a B plus, I'm beating you. So my B game, my B minus game, is so much better than like 95% of the field. it's going to take a handful of guys, Rory, Bryson, Zander, Rom, to have their A-minus A-game to beat me. And based on the way golf works, that doesn't usually happen, especially at the majors. Look at Bryson.

He had his A-game, A-plus game, Friday, and Sunday. He had like his F game on Thursday, and he lost the tournament. Now, if it's easy to go, well, if Bryson had shot even par on. Thursday. Well, if he had, does he shoot 16 under the next three days? Does he play as loose as he did? Maybe, but probably not. I would bet it again. Now, if you told me Bryson shot even part of the way the weather broke out, he could have been right there. Because Rory had moments where you're like, God, he's a, he's a putter two away from being a couple shots back. And then unlike Scotty, Rory's superpower and what he does best, it's like, what does Lamar Jackson do best? Well, he's a

dynamic athlete. Like at any moment he can run. But he's also such a threat to pass. Like you don't know what's coming. But his athleticism is unlike anything we've ever seen. And it's made him a legendary Hall of Fame talent, right? Rory's Hall of Fame talent, this true ability, is his driver when it's on is unstoppable.

And every time you'd look up, especially Saturday and Sunday, it's like Rory likes to play that power draw. And he'd aim on the right side, what the open, there's not just like, well, if you miss, you're in the rough. you could miss and you have a nice lie or you could be in a bush you could be in an unplayable lie you could be in a place where a guy like Justin Rose

shanks back to back shots and I don't know how many times definitely today but I feel like over the course the last couple days Rory would try to play that draw and it just wouldn't quite draw and then he would be like in a bush and sometimes he did a miraculous shot out of it and he's still birdie but a lot of times

like he just ended up with the par and then Scotty would come up where most people in the golfing world like who's the best driver of all time a lot of people would just say Roy McElroy would say Roy McElroy's advantage over Scottie is driving the ball Scotty would come up and his driver I would say wasn't like his potent weapon this week

his putting was dominant it felt like he was just striping fairways so it's like Rory your ability to separate from Scotty because his short game's going to be better than you and his iron play is going to be better than you is you fucking hitting that 350 yard drive like Bryson

down the pipe. And I thought this week it's like, God, it was just kind of, it was very hit or miss. And it feels like that's been a little bit of the case since they yanked the driver from at the PJ Championship when he would refuse to talk to people. But pretty crazy week. I mean, really, for those three guys. Props to Bryson for, you know, battling back. You know, I think Rory, it's easy to kind of keep your head high after 2019.

And Scotty celebrated for five. minutes. I do think it's kind of relatable. I don't know about you. Like, I hate birthdays. I hate birthdays. I'm not a huge celebration guy. We all have people in our life that when a birthday comes, when a promotion comes, when anything that you can like tangibly correlate to quote unquote a successful moment personally, professionally, let's celebrate. And there are those type people that love to celebrate and there are those type people who hate to celebrate. And clearly Scotty's like not that into it. And obviously faith plays a big part of his life. But I think he realized this. You know, Rory, like Rory wins a tournament. It's cool, but it doesn't mean that. Part of the reason the master's meant so much

to him was because he'd been trying to win the thing for a decade and what it meant to his career, right? It was a huge, huge crowning achievement for his career. Scotty, I would imagine the first couple times he won on the PGA tour in 2002, it was a big deal. It's like, God, I finally won on the PGA tour. Then he won the Masters. It was a huge deal. And then like a year later, he's like,

I've won like four or five times since. It's like, yeah, I win. And then next week or in two weeks, I just play another event. And if I'm not playing the next week and I got an event in three weeks, I know it might take a couple days off, and then I'm just back at the course.

Pitting drivers, working on my short game, playing with the boys, working with my coach. It's like the same thing. And when I heard his words, it was like, I'm just kind of routine oriented. I like my routine more than I do the validation of holding the trophy, even though my routine is all about getting to that trophy. It's what define Nick Sabin's career. The process way more than results.

It was by the end of his career, he could smile a little bit on the podium after winning a national championship. But you always watch Nick Sabin and went, I felt like he liked February to December more than he liked the final result of the playoff game and winning it or losing it. Right. And I was always told this, Nick Sabin was way better in the locker room after a loss than after a win. He was in a good mood after a loss because he knew he had to be. After win, he was kind of miserable. And football coaches often are like that.

I always think it's so funny on Sunday night football or Monday night football. Whoever. The Green Bay Packers are playing the Minnesota Vikings. It's going to happen on week one, right? Chargers Chiefs. Who are the Eagles playing? Eagles Cowboys.

Whatever the games are. I got to get dialed into football here. But whoever wins those week one games, Jalen Hertz, they win last second field goal. And Jake Elliott or Jalen Hertz is coming, whoever the sideline reporter is, He's like, it was a great win, very excited. But, you know, we celebrate this for 12, 24 hours,

and then get right to the New York Giants. You know, if the Chargers beat the Chiefs, week one in Brazil, they'll be like, awesome win. It was a great offseason, but now we got to stay focus for the Denver Broncos. That is how they all talk, coaches and players, right? And I think the best players in golf have always kind of been like that. And I think Scotty, I would say, defines that as much as anybody.

And I think, listen, he's finished seven of his last 10, or seven of his last eight majors, he's finished in the top 10. Obviously, he's won three of those. It's his ceiling, he's the highest ceiling. But his floor now is stupid high. I mean, it's, you know, Tiger won a bunch of majors, but he also was right in the mix of a lot of them too. you know Phil is not going to come close to the 15 Tiger has he only has the six

but I would say one crowning achievement for Phil are all like the top twos threes and top fives in majors like Phil's floor for two decades in his prime from 25 to 45 like was fucking high what Rory has become I would say it's like what grade would you give Rory this week I'd be like I don't know C plus and he finished easily T7. I bet Rory's like, listen, even if I wasn't going to win it because I didn't, wasn't close to my A game, if I just had my B plus game, I'm probably sitting second all by myself. So, and that's, Bryson, the same thing.

Their floors now are so high. Now, I still believe that if the wind and the variables, Scotty can handle that. You know, Rory being an international guy growing up in this, even if there is an element, there are a lot of people that I live around that grew up in Chicago or Minnesota that have lived in Arizona for a couple decades that you couldn't just put back in the cold and they'd be used to it again.

So there is separation. Roy's lived in Florida for a while. But, like, Roy's proven he's better in the elements than Bryson. That if the elements had played a part in this tournament, I don't know if Bryson comes storming back. Even he talked about that on Thursday when he had some elements and he kind of fell apart. He just, his science experiment doesn't quite work.

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and the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. You know, the Ryder Cup is a huge conversation. I think Europe is dramatically better than us. I mean, if we could just clone Scotty and Bryson and even Zander, but we can't. Like Chris got her up Like I'd probably just put him on the team Like why not?

There's a good old boys club You're just on scholarship forever Right? It's like Colin Morcala is gonna be on the team He is not good right now And he fires a caddy like every other week I was texting a buddy this week You know in basketball I understand

Like you're not gonna fire the players You fire the coach In football sometimes it's like Yeah Bobby Sloak is not a very good offensive coordinator He's calling the plays You know whether it's not all his fault, whether it's the personnel guy's fault, when you're calling the plays and they don't work,

like we can tangibly connect you to the result. Acadie's not telling you where to put your wrists, where to put your hips, what swing tips with putting or chipping or where to aim really in terms of like your body alignment.

That's what a golf coach does. Obviously, they know your yardages and the longer they're with you can give you help. But Colin Morcawa constantly blaming caddies for his failures is pretty embarrassing. And it wasn't until this like new generation of player, for the most part, obviously caddies have been fired before. Think about Tiger Woods. From the moment he hired Stevie till he had to fire him because of his transgressions off the field, he went through some ups and downs.

Like he had some rough patches in the middle of the 2000s. But he didn't fire Stevie Williams. Phil Mickelson had incredibly low-lose and did not fire bones and did not win a major till his mid-30s. There is not a chance in God's Green Earth that the equivalent of Phil in his late 20s, early 30s,

before he had won a major, being a great player known as the second best or third best player in the PGA tour, would not fire bones in 2025. These guys constantly running through caddies like they are the problem, is kind of a joke. And I get it.

You got to blame someone. And as a couple people pointed out to me, a couple buddies of mine, that this generation, like if you're an older caddy, and I'm with a player like Moracao or whatever. You know, at first, like any working relationship, I'm pretty careful of what I'm going to say,

what I'm not going to say. After a while, we're human beings. I become comfortable with you, right? I can just say like Colin. Or whoever, I'm just using him as an example. Knock it off, bro. No. That's a dumb idea. Look at Jordan Speeth. A lot of credit for Jordan Speeth, who has some high highs, had a lot of low lows, has not kicked his caddy to the curb.

You know why? Because the reason that Jordan Speake just pumped it out of bounds on seven in a tournament has nothing to do with Michael Greller. And I watch Colin Morcow who missed the last two cuts, who's just playing like absolute shit. It feels like he's throwing a pity party for himself. it's like bro stop blaming the case start blaming yourself start taking some accountability you know i i think that's one good thing any athlete will do and in football you don't have a choice because you have to take accountability because your coaches are always forcing you to in golf it's like you can blame every it's my swing coach it's the guy fucking helping me out putting it's my manager it's my cat no it's you you're hitting

the shots i right now i have the chipping yips i shot 80 yesterday i i had three dollars double bogies and five holes because I sculled multiple chips. If I was just a normal chipper and just get around the green, maybe make one par, a couple bogeys, I would have shot 76. The only reason I suck a chipping is myself. It's on me. If I had a caddy out there, if the guys I'm playing would try to give me tip, it's none of their fault.

It's my own fault. Maybe a little bit of my brother gave me a tip like a couple weeks ago and I've tried to institute and it's not working. But like, I just think Moracawa's whole deal and all these players, like, I, get it. Sometimes, you know, I think Max and his old caddy, who's his best friend growing up, sometimes it's like, hey, maybe we just need a change. And listen, that's welcome to life. But I feel some of this, like, Callmore Cowell is going to be going on like four or five caddies. You watch over the course of a couple years, it's like, bro, what are we doing? And then you got a guy

like Patrick Cantlay who, I mean, he's a Rider Cup like stalwarts, guys that are in concrete, Sharpie, that are going to be on the team. Not just this. year but for the foreseeable future probably. I got Patrick Kentley missed three straight, three straight major cuts. I think he was T-34 at the Masters and he didn't make another major cut. How does that happen? Like this is, this is a sport.

I'm not talking about getting in the top ten. I'm not talking about, you know, top fives. I'm just, you don't make the cut? You can't make the cut in these majors? Now, you can explain to me that Ryder Cup is a lot different and it is. I do have faith that can't lay in the Rider Cup situation and he is Anders, his buddy but that's just like a rough, pretty terrible season.

I mean, it really, when guys like Justin Rose over the last couple of years are running circles around you, I mean, Justin Rose is a great example. What did he finish? T-16, over the weekend, 68, 69. I just, I don't know, man. I really don't. I saw that Kiz kind of went viral. on my Instagram that the locker room,

because he was talking about Wyndham Clark and how Wyndham just basically kind of needs to apologize, but pictures in a locker room are sacred to kind of the players, and it's kind of embarrassing that got out. I would agree if it's a baseball locker room, a basketball locker room, an NFL locker room. Like, if I'm a basketball player, my 81 home games that I'm playing, like, that's my locker room,

right, that's my team's locker room. This is where we stay. Baseball, football, whatever, right? We go in here every day. In golf, you're kind of a traveling circus. So not only is the Oakmont locker room, not your locker room, it's literally their membership's locker room.

Like, it is literally a group of people's lockers, right, who are letting you borrow it because they're hosting the tournament there. Not only is it not your sacred place, it's literally not your locker room. just like most of these guys Wyndham Clark's a good example I think he's a member here at Whisper Rock

probably member in multiple places wherever his locker is at his clubs that's literally his locker in his locker room and if someone publicized something that happened in his quote unquote locker room I would say 100%.

That is that is that's that's Bush League that's not above board that's BS right but whoever posted that picture potentially a member, maybe another player, is like, what the fuck are we doing? This is embarrassing.

It really is. Because it's not the player's locker room. This is not, you're not on the Lakers and someone posted something from the Lakers locker room and LeBron or Lucas Pissed. It's like, why are we posting anything from our own locker room? That's their fucking locker room. That is not the case in golf,

especially at these majors traveling venues. And my guess is, you know, Tron Carter of No Land Up, who I am a huge fan of, who posted it, Probably got that picture for multiple people because they're like, this is not acceptable. We want this out there because if you're a member, it's like you're probably not going to post it, but you 100% use the media, get this out of here. This is our locker room.

And if I've been a member there for 20, 30 years at one of the most historic courses in America, and you got this guy beaten down the locker room, it'd be one thing too if it was like Tiger, Phil, some all-time great. It's like, no, bro, this is not going to fly. This is not okay. It's not acceptable. It really isn't. And then the next week, he goes, time to move on.

I'm ready to move on. You don't dictate that. Now, I also think it was kind of stupid part of the story was Oakmont wants Wyndham Clark to go to anger management. Like if I was Wyndham Clark, I'd say kiss my ass. But I also don't think that any of the players can support him going, this shouldn't get out. Like, no, this isn't yours.

Right? If I rent an Airbnb or I go into someone else's home or someone else's warehouse or someone else's business and fuck it up. Even if I'm doing business there for a period of time or pay you for your services, it's not mine. So I can't be mad when that gets out. And that's, you know, I think what happened here. So anyone trying to defend those actions, which is crazy because, or sad,

when I'm at a pretty good week. I mean, he went nuts on the weekend. He kind of pulled a Bryson. Shot 76. The next three days, 66. 66, 65. Him and Bryson are good examples. Now, Bryson's a better player than Wyndham,

but that course, if you could bomb it and control yourself off the T when the weather was pretty benign, you could dominate it. You really could. And I think if you remove Scotty, and I wrote this down, I respect how difficult Oakmont is, right? Because anytime you see these guys

struggling to get parsed, not just on one individual hole. I'm talking about shooting par. A lot of respect. It's clear what these guys do to tournaments. But, like, and I get it. It only happens once every six or seven years. I do think this week and the rest of the majors were a little more enjoyable.

Like, I don't need 30 under. And really, if you remove Scotty, the winning score would have been 13 under. If you would have got weather, rain, way more wind, that number could easily be like six or seven under, I would imagine. but I enjoyed this and I know with no weather you go across the pond like these guys are going to destroy you

it's it's they would do that to most courses the Okamon is a complete outlier but I'll always enjoy the masters the most most people will it's the most popular golf tournament of the year but I really enjoyed that and I've enjoyed the last two weeks

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Okay, let's bang out some questions here. at Golopod, at Golopod, Instagram fire into those DMs. We actually got a bunch. There's a lot of debate over the last few days on where Scotty ranks is an all-time golfer. I've seen a decent amount of pushback from people saying he's not a top 20 player.

Yet how guys like Phil Brooks, DJ Rory, and Speeth are better. I think he has a bit to catch up to Phil, but to me he's clearly better than all those guys. Where would you rank them all-time? Well, I think when you're talking to all-time golfers, This is, I, it's, you'd have to get like Brandl Shambly to break down the Ben Hogan's, the Carrie Middlecuffs. Even, you know, I never watched Arnold Palmer or Jack Nicholas play golf.

Obviously, those guys are, you know, on the Mount Rushmore and just cemented into the top 10-ish, 20-ish conversation. Some of the, you know, Johnny Miller's, Lee Trevino, right? but when you talk about in my lifetime, and I would say post like Greg Norman, Nick Faldo. And most would consider Nick Faldo probably top 20, 25 player. Greg Norman's one of the all-time great talents,

but left a little something to be desired. You know, he's a polarizing player. But I would say of the internet era, the Tiger and Phil era. Tiger is clearly the best player. And then I think you get into this world of like Phil and Rory. I mean, what Rory's doing now in his mid-30s

still playing at a really high level. Won three times this year, just finished second last week, top 10 this week. He's been incredible in majors the last several years. To me, a separate. I mean, Speed has kind of been a non-factor now for a while. DJ only won two majors, even though he won a golf tournament, I think, for 10 straight years. I'm pretty sure, does he have 25 wins? He has a lot of wins.

But Dustin Johnson also is now 41 years old. And how many PJ wins does he have? He has 24. So I would put Scottie Shephler above DJ, above Jordan Speath. I would put him, I mean, part of Rory is like his greatness has been for a long, long time. So it's, I would still have Rory slightly above him, though he's getting closer and closer. So to me, Tiger Easy 1, Phil Easy 2. I would put Rory, who's got Scottie chasing him, and I would put Scotty above Brooks.

You know, Brooks won five majors. He basically won four in a couple years span, but he did not win very often on the PGA Tour. You know, his major to PGA Tour victory ratio, you know, Scotty is winning majors, but he's also winning like the RBC Heritage, the waste management. The memorial. Think about this. Brooks has five major victories, and he has nine PGA Tour victories.

So more than half of Brooks's victories are majors. That's, I mean, that's one of the craziest stats for a guy with over, I would say, five victories. If over half your stats or half your wins are majors, I mean, that's unheard of. For example, Scotty has four majors, but he has 17 wins. So basically a quarter of his wins are majors. And even if he gets seven or eight majors, I bet he wins, assuming he's going to keep playing. Let's say he wins, I don't know, 32 times.

25% would be pretty high. You know, Tiger's 80 plus wins and 15 majors, right? So he's like, what's that? 15%. I'd have him four right now. How quickly do you think Scotty wins a U.S. Open? Definitely feels like he would be very soon with the heater he's on. Which would be insane for him to complete the Grand Slam already,

and then the question is, how many majors can he win? I do think about Spieth and Kepka, and we all thought Jordan would get the slam that quick and rattle off a ton of majors. I thought Brooks would too, but doesn't seem like that anymore. You think Scotty could fall the same boat as them. It's always the risk. It's why when the guy just asked me about the ranking,

Rory won majors like 15 years ago, and then he won another major this year. I think he just literally went through one of the longest stretches in, like, golf history. Right, there's a short list of guys that go a decade plus. Tiger's a good example from 08 to 19. I think Jack did it too in the early 70s to whatever it was, 86. It's pretty hard to go, you know, Phil's a good example of a guy that goes a long period of time without. It's not easy to do.

Most people, a lot of good players, if you look at their wiki, rattle off their three, four, five majors in a short period of time. And I think it's easy in the heat of the moment. The difference is like, I don't know what happened to Jordan. I think Jordan, a lot of people would say he had one of the greatest putting runs of all time. He literally made putts from everywhere, and now he just became a normal putter. He's never been like the longest guy. He actually drives the ball a lot better now than he used to.

so I'd be stunned if Scotty doesn't win multiple U.S. opens. When you think about Scottie Shephyler, you go, that's a U.S. Open player. Like, to me, his game, like Brooks Kepka, his honestly, Brooks Kepka's major game, pretty boring, is a lot like Scottie Shephler's major game. They don't fuck up a lot. And whenever they need a big shot, they can, you know, kind of dig deep down to get it. But it's not like super entertaining, like fill or speed. I know you've addressed this before, but I'm watching the open,

and it's so frustrating to not have the shot tracer. I hate how NBC produces a golf tournament. They should be ashamed and embarrassed. Yeah, I don't know, man. I don't even know what to say at this point in time. But I'm with you. It felt like a decent amount of times that a guy would hit a shot, especially like off the tee.

It's like you should not have an event in 2025, like chips and puts, okay. I'm not looking for, you know, coloring. But there should not be a shot from the fairway and definitely a shot from the T where I don't get a shot tracer. Unacceptable. Can't happen. And I understand there is some technical error potential for the little ball. Maybe you miss it, but

I don't know what the percentage was, but it was not even close to 100%. So their coverage. I think sometimes in life, when you're lost, right, in any industry, you start, listen, you got to sometimes, your backs against the wall, you've got to create some ideas. I think sometimes the best advice is just, let's simplify everything. Let's not, because I think it's easy to overcomplicate things. And I think sometimes simplicity works, right? When you're watching a football game, Bucking and Akeman, two guys.

Hell, when you're watching CBS call a golf tournament, it's Emmleman and Jim Nance, right, in the big moments. I don't need much going on here. And I like Kevin Kisner a lot. But they got him, faxon. I mean, last year they had Shamblay. They got so many people involved. It's like, guys, we need to take a deep breath and relax a little bit here.

It's not, I've always been a proponent, and maybe it's just because I'm biased. Like, you don't need a super famous guy. I remember Fox got the U.S. Open in 2015. I thought they did a, you know, Joe Buck took a lot of shit. I thought Joe Buck was fine. I thought it was Shane Bacon and Joe Clad. I thought it was cool.

But they hired Greg Norman. They hired Greg Norman to be, you know, the Treville Lundman or the analyst. And Dustin Johnson, on hole 18, to win the U.S. Open. I remember he blows it way by his eagle. put and he has his birdie put to force a playoff. And Greg Norman just goes silent. It's like Greg Norman choked again. And I understand it's not sometimes

just hiring a famous person and so many TV executives just like historically radio executives think fame matters. We see on the podcast business like, oh, the Kardashians, the Obamas. It's like guys, no one's listening to these shows. I mean, just because you have a famous name, doesn't people are going to, you don't, it's about talent, not just a name brand. Megan Markle. It's like, fuck, you gave her $20 million to do three shows that nobody listened to. Great business move. I could have told you that thing was going to fail.

Give me someone talented. People will listen, promote them. And I just think sometimes in sports that, I don't know what's going on. The broadcast is bad. It just doesn't, they're just lost. And I think Bones is elite. You'd be better off with just Dan Hicks and Bones. calling the golf. A guy I was playing with once told me to never hit a straight shot and that it's nearly impossible

to do it time after time. Instead, to always play a fade or a draw. This has helped me be more consistent, but do you think that's true? I think Jack Nicholas's famous kind of motto in golf is, and this is for the highest level, but like if you're a fader or a draw,

too often in tournaments, when the shot calls from the eye, opposite, a guy will try to play the shot that he's not comfortable with. It's like, if you play a cut, play a cut on every shot. Worst case scenario, you can't get close to the pin, play it to the middle of the green. And I'm, for my game, I just play a cut. Every once and a while, I did it yesterday kind of for fun because the wind was pumping. I played a draw off the tee, and it's really hard for me. I just cocked my shoulders, cocked my feet, and aimed the club down the middle, and it kind of worked, and it was a bomb. I mean, it went like

320 yards. But it's not something that I can rely on. It's not a shot shape, swing kind of feel that I like. I'm a cut guy. And sometimes I get bored with that and I try and I always do worse. And I just try to play. When I play my best golf, I have one shot shape. And I'm a three-four handicap.

But I think when you look at the tour, most guys, Scotty Schaeffler is a cut guy. He plays a fade. Now, he's so great when he has to. He can draw the ball. but you know him Rory forever draw draw draw

now he's I think to be a great player you gotta have the cut so he's kind of instituted that but I think the best player's historic Lee Trevino only played a cut it's the only shot he could hit so actually why he never played great at the Masters because you kind of have to to draw as a right-handed player but I do think

I can't hit a straight shot I mean sometimes obviously go straight I don't mean it to but I don't even know how you know I would would love to hit a straight shot, but I do agree with the guy. Some people just, with technology, whatever your shot is, like your natural shot, just obviously some days are different than others, but over the course of your years playing golf, you're going to have a tendency one way or the other, just play that shot.

That will give you the best chance to be good. Because let's face it, the way to be good is hit fairways and greens. Whether you're a 10 handicap or a scratch golfer, if I tell you're in the fairway, more often than not that you're, you know, if you're in the fairway way more than you're in the trees and you're on the green way more than you're in the bunker, you're just going to shoot better and take your buddy's money. I mean, that's just a fact.

I'm curious your thoughts on Horvatt not being allowed to film at the barracuda. The consensus online seems to be that the tour messed up. If this is 100% the tour's decision, then I would probably agree. However, I would assume that the tour can't let Grant film due to their contract, with the other media. I don't think this is that complicated. They invited Grant to play because this was a tournament

that, one, is overshadowed by a major, and two, has little to no star power in the field. So typically, I looked at the leaderboard yesterday, a lot of names that casual golf fans, I'm talking golf fans,

are not going to recognize and just are not going to watch. Last night I had a few cocktails, after we played and it was on in the background. It's a cool looking course. I've played it before, old greenwood and Truckee, but this is not a normal PJ tour event.

I mean, it's technically an opposite field event, but this is not some breadwinner for the business of the tour. So they invited Horvett. Now, Horvatt is not aspiring to play in the PJ tour, right? That's not his end goal. He's in the business of shooting YouTube videos

where he controls the content. He controls the advertisers. controls the business. And he partners with Phil and other PJ Tour pros to play. His business model is completely different from the PGA Tour's business model. Just like my business model is different from radio's business model. Like we all have different business models. But if I don't aspire to do something and someone asked me where other people think it's going to be really cool, and even if I thought it'd be kind of cool too, if I have other stuff going on and you won't play by my rules, it's easy for me to say no.

Even if I know, they're probably going to say no. I just want to hear them say no. Grant, because he's such good buddies with Wesley Bryan, who's also a YouTuber, but a PGA tour player, a guy who's won on the tour, understands both sides.

He knows what works on YouTube, and he has a very good understanding. Hell, he's technically suspended right now of the way they operate in terms of their regulations. So I don't think Grant ever thought he was going to play in this event because he knew

with his ask they were going to say no he 100 maybe there was a slight chance hey maybe they'd break the rules for us they were never going to allow them film because like you said they are in business with CBS NBC and you sign these contracts no no different

I use this example like an NFL player some of these NFL guys or NBA guys started YouTube channels right of them just traveling doing different stuff, they could not bring their YouTube guy during the game

and have him film in the front row of them playing and post it. One, it would get flag, copyright infringement, and the NBA would tell that guy like, you're not allowed to do this. So it's just...

I think it became way more emotional because a lot of people thought like, how could he turn this down? Yeah, I mean, it would be cool. Like, if they invited me, which I would have no chance to finish anything but dead last in a tournament

would it would it benefit me to do it maybe it'd be a cool experience but if I told you well hell they're not going to show you on TV like would they show grant on TV a lot in theory they might but what if they didn't

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We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember.

I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas.

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My question is this, have you ever played it? And what makes golf different in Arizona coming from Texas? I just think what makes desert golf different than any golf traditional golf is you just run into the desert. So there's grass and then it just abruptly ends. Like where I grew up playing in Davis, Sacramento, the Bay Area, just northern California, there's just a large property that is basically all covered in grass. and the overwhelming golf in the area that I grew up playing, and I would just say in California in general,

would not be considered quote-unquote target golf. And I would say a huge element to Arizona golf is like specific target related. Because if you miss, especially at certain courses, you're done. Like you're just, your ball's just gone. And there's an element like being in Tahoe with Matt mountain golf, right? It's lined by the trees. And if you go in the trees, you're basically done and you're going to lose the ball. Arizona has that element. So like when I watch some of

your guys tournaments in Texas, I've never played golf in Texas. It reminds me a little bit of old school golf in California where you miss the fairway. It sucks. Like you're in the trees. You have to hit hooks and cuts. But your ball, you're not going to take a lot of, not like, unplayables. Maybe there's out of bounds, but you're not in a bush. And that's, I think, a big part overall theme in Arizona golf. It's very target related. Now, Phoenician, I haven't played in a couple years. A little more open, but there's definitely some places where you're just done.

Loved your SpyTech interview. Appreciate that. Anyway, here's my golf question. You see value in taking lessons. I've taken a handful of lessons in my life and never really saw the value. I learned 99% through YouTube. I'm wondering what your stance is on YouTube. reverse professional instruction.

I would say the main difference is when I take a lesson from from Jim, let's say Jim gives me a lesson. So I got the chipping yips. Hey Jim, can you help me with chipping? We spend an hour, maybe we go out to a hole, we chip 50 yards, 30 yards, bunker shots,

and he's like, I think you should work on these three things. Put the ball farther back in your stance, stand more upright, change your grip, whatever they are. Like, he gives you specific things to work on. And maybe one of those three things are wrong. But the other two things can really help you out. And just one specific thought to help you.

I'm like you, I watch a lot of YouTube instruction, no different Instagram instruction. If I go to that and I go, I typed this in last night, chipping videos, right? Chipping lessons. Well, everyone's different. So he's giving a lesson. on YouTube to Will, to James, to Julie.

Well, her issues might not be my issues. So I might be able to find something that can help me on YouTube or Instagram, right? Whether it's Rocco Mediat or Padrake Harrington, giving tips. But maybe that tip doesn't relate to me. So I start looking at that tip and start using that tip, and then it fucks me up even more. Now, sometimes it helps. So it's just, it's risky. Now, not every instructor's the same.

Some are clearly better than others, but I think it's easier to go down a rabbit hole in online and confuse yourself more. Now, if it's one specific thing, you know, when I was like, I think my grips, I think I got too big of grips. And I YouTubeed it. And I watched a couple people, I'm like 100%. So I just got different grips. I got thinner grips. It's easier for me to grip my club, and I've played a lot better since.

And I do think it made a big difference. But I think if I just, like my chipping yips, I watch like 10 videos. No, I had a few transfusions and a couple course lights. But I just, I don't think it helped me. I still feel lost. Have you ever played Orange Tree in Scottsdale? I have not.

On a separate note, being from Iowa, do you have any idea how different courses in Arizona play? Does the ball carry as far? Are the greens fast slow? The ball carries farther in Arizona, especially, I mean, in the winter, if it gets a little chilly, obviously doesn't fly as far. But in the summer, it definitely flies a little farther than Arizona. I mean, think about spring training, guys hit home runs. Obviously, just, you know, it varies course to course in terms of green speeds.

One thing that happens in Arizona, and it happens in Vegas, it just happens in place with extreme heat. It does not happen in California. is they have to change out the grass, right? Like most courses aerate a green during the year. So there's going to be a point in time in the year where they basically aerate the green, right? For those of you, you know, plug the holes or poke the holes and just, you can play it, but it's like a joke. It should be automatic two puts.

In Arizona, they shut down courses for a month in the summer. And they basically change out the grass. And then they do it again for a couple weeks, typically in the winter. So most courses, I would say all courses, public and private, are shut down between 35 and 45 days during the season. Like TPC right now is shut down in Arizona. Just like I think a lot of the country clubs typically shut down in July. Because they go, well, it's going to be 110 degrees.

So people aren't going to play it. This is when we change it. So right now, most of the greens throughout Arizona are really, really slow. Because they've all been aerated. over the course of the last three weeks. As someone who just, who wasn't quite old enough to grasp Tiger's domination

in his prime, how close is Scotty getting to Tiger level? Yeah, I mean, I think it's hard to compare. I do think Tiger, just like I think, like the older version of Phil, like 35 to 40, just like I think, you know, Rory when he's on,

you know, Ernie Ells. There's a small group of guys who can just play with you, right? Like, Michael probably going to win, but like Peak Michael versus, you know, a great LeBron team or a great Curry team or a great Tim Duncan team. Like, they can play with you, right? And that's where I think in golf,

like I would give advantage to Tiger in a big tournament up against anyone I watched. But if you told me that, like, we're playing Augusta tomorrow and Phil has his A game Rory has his A game Speeth in his prime has his A game Kepka has his A game

Ernie L's bad example He didn't play well at the Masters But those guys can play Go toe to toe with him But overall the body of work Yeah I mean I don't think you can really compare them Nine of the top 15 at the Open

Are American 9 of the top 15 at the U.S. Open Are also American 12 of the top 20 at the Masters. Any long shots or guys from the OG Rider Cups, you can see squeaking in if they finish the season outside of the top 12? I do think that Wyndham Clark, you know, part of the Rider Cup this year at Bethpage, it's really long. You know, some of those courses in the Northeast wing foot, Beth Page, it's like kind of for a bomber, right? So obviously the first couple guys you think of like Rory, Bryson. But to build

for Kagan to build the team, you know, Harris English is going to be on the team. I do think Wyndham Clark is a guy that if he plays well down the stretch, again, assuming the team likes him, like he just, he fucking bombs it.

So I think we're in trouble. I really do. Because they got the mix on the European team of Legend legendary players, right? Rory, Rom, got guys that are just elite players and just comfortable in the Ryder Cup with like a veteran guy like Justin Rose, younger kind of ascending stars like Hovlin, Ludwig, Haddon, Lowry, who's just a solid like 10th, 11th, 12th guy. These Hoygard twins,

when I was at the Waste Management earlier this year, we watched a couple groups Tiaf on one. I think Hoygard was in Spee's group, one of them. It was Rasmus. It was one of the two of them. And they actually both. One of them finished like 12th at the waist manager, the other was like 20th. They both played well that week. I remember looking at them.

I mean, they're identical twins. And thinking, this guy's fucking big. It's like 6-2. It looks like 2-10. You guys look like blue-chip golfers. Like just big, well-built. Like our team, it's like Harris English, Russell Henley. I mean, I like the top of our group, the Bryson's, the Scotty's, the Xanders.

But after that, like Morikawa and Cantley, give me Goder up. I think Goddard up is now firmly in the mix. And, I mean, I still got a couple weeks left of the season to kind of make a run here. But with how far he hits, he had a couple drives today. I give him a lot of credit. Clearly he's comfortable on European soil. he had one he's like this low cut and even off the

when he hit it he kind of was like oh man it flew this bunker it had to go like 370 yards it's like this guy's got he just looks kind of like a chubby or keppka just looks like a guy with power so i don't know i mean i kegan said it i think last week or two weeks ago

just because you're seventh like if you're in the top six on points you you auto qualify he's like just if you're seventh or eight you are not guaranteed anything so I think everything is going to be on the table with him picking players I think if you're Keegan

it's weird you're the captain so there's pressure on you to win it home soil I think this is a good of time as any to just throw a couple curve balls like what are you just going to bring you know Jordan's speech just because I don't know

Scottie's on a different level right now The only player who seems to be close at times is Rory. Also, had he not been arrested or had the Ravioli incident, he could be at more tour and major wins. I am someone who is too young to see Prime Tiger golf, but can't be played much better than Scotty. How many majors do you think Scottie get to? Let's end on this.

I'm with you. Like the way Scotty is playing, I think, by all the metrics. is as good as most players in the history of the sport. I think right now, I think you've got to be careful, which is easiest that you always got to say. Got to be careful. I mean, he's 29 years old. So typically a lot of guys get better in their 30s.

I mean, Roy McElroy is better right now over this course of this year. Then he won, that he was when he won all those majors in his early to mid-20s. I think he'd tell you. It might not even be close. So who's to say Scotty can't be a better player at 35 than he was at 29. Now, statistically you'd say it'd be hard. I would say right now you'd say like 8 to 10. I mean, is there a decent chance at the end of next year?

He's sitting at 6? I think the way to look at is what would you put his over under at next year? One and a half? Two and a half feels a little extreme. Because you're just bound up, as he's shown in the last couple years. You just have weird year or weird. round or get arrested. I'd say his over under next year at six,

so I would say it would be stunning if he ends next year, not at five. He'd be 30 years old with five. I think there's a decent chance he could win six. He's going to be the heavy favorite going into the Masters next year. I don't know what tournament. He's won twice. So it's like, this fucking guy plays well there.

Even this year, he was off early and still, I think, finished third. I mean, it wasn't for Rory McElroy, Scottie Sheffler. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I think all signs point to now the question is, how many can he win and when does he win the U.S. Open? And he's going to be, if he's healthy, the heavy favorite at the U.S. Open next year, that's for sure.

And the heavy favorite in every tournament he plays for the foreseeable future. And it's not like he's just a favorite. I mean, he's, in some of these PGA events, he's going to be like two and three to one. I mean, hell, looking back, I didn't even like him that much this week in the open. plus 450's incredible odds for a guy that at any moment

can just kick the shit out of everybody. You could look back and we might, assuming he has another good year, that he had one of those stretches. I saw someone broke it down on Instagram that if you invested in Scotty Sheffler over the last three years instead of investing into the S&P 500,

it wouldn't even be close what the returns would be for Scotty than anywhere else. Because if you think about it, If you're getting four, five, six to one on Scotty, even if he wins six of the 15 events that he plays in, so if you lose, if you're betting, let's just pick $100. So in the 11 events that you lose $1,100, think of all the times that you're turning 100 into 500 or 700 or 700,

and that adds up, you are crushing your investment. So I just think If I had to bet right now I'd say 8 He's halfway to it He wins like Three over the course of the next couple years Just the way it works

Usually a little dry spell Maybe one when he's like 35 years old But I would say 8 Which When we talk about Phil Like he's this all-time non-tiger legend He won 6 So 8's a lot

I would say 10's on the table and if something gets weird, six, but eight feels like the right number. The volume. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin.

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