The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Go Low - The latest with Scottie, getting ready for Valhalla, Tiger and his clothing line

Episode Date: May 8, 2024

John dives into the latest with Scottie Scheffler and how the birth of his upcoming child could be a factor in him winning the Grand Slam, the latest headlines as we get ready for Valhalla, did Tiger make a mistake leaving Nike, and what's going on with NBC and the US Open. Lastly, John answers your questions in this episode's mailbag segment. 6:00 - The latest with Scottie and his baby 15:11 - Tiger's clothing line 23:05 - NBC and the US Open 25:06 - Up and coming stars 28:51 - Mailbag Follow John on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube for the latest. Check out Gametime - the fastest growing ticketing app in the US, and the official ticketing app of 3 & Out and GoLow -  for tickets to all of your favorite NFL, NBA, NHL, NCAA teams. Concert and comedy show tickets, too. Go to Gametime now to create an account, download the app and use code JOHN for $20 off your first purchase. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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but this is going to feel big in a couple weeks. I want to hit on just some storylines going into that. I didn't have a chance. I talked a little bit about the football. Pod Tigers line and I got some major question marks. We've been talking about NBC and the production of their broadcasts. They're obviously cutting costs, doing something a little weird for the U.S. Open. And then we got some young phenoms.

I mean, there's a 15 year old, a 16 year old doing some pretty big things. So we're going to hit on some golf topics as well as answering some of your questions on Instagram. I put out a little thing on my story, got a bunch of replies, also have some questions in the DMs. This is all in the at-go-low pod. At-go-lop-pod. If you have any golf questions, you've got to fire in there

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And I think in their world, ideally it happens sometime this week. But there is a chance. I mean, I've never had a baby, but I've been around enough women who have that you never know. And it's not inconceivable that this thing bleeds into next week. And until she has it, I think it does put into question him for next week. Like he stated very clearly what he will and will not do. He's not going to go Rudy Gobert and skip it. Like he is going to attend the birth of his first child.

Heavy favorite. And I think if it happens this week or even bleeds into early next week, I don't think it's that big a deal. I don't. I think he's proven that he could show up. But the lack of sleep, the lack of preparation. I've said for a while, if the baby did not exist, He just got her pregnant this week.

She was going to have a baby after the major season. Sometime, you do the math. You know what I mean? I think he could have a very good chance 40 to 1 to win the Grand Slam. We talked about this last week. Those odds are pretty tasty. This is the only thing that throws a little curveball. So I think he didn't play this week on purpose.

I think they're praying, start pushing, do whatever you have to do. But it's definitely a possibility until that baby pops out that it's going to bleed into the next week and his status would just come into question. And obviously, if she hasn't had it and he starts playing, I think any of us that have a 40 to 1 ticket on him to win the Grand Slam, like he easily could pick up and leave, no matter if he's up by 5. So that's probably the biggest story right now, because he's the best player in the world by a wide margin. And if this did not exist, I think anyone would be shocked if he didn't win this tournament. but this just adds an element of uncertainty.

And anytime you have uncertainty with something that you can't control. This is not an injury where it's like, oh, he can manage the pain. You can take ice baths at night. He can stay off his feet. Like this is not one of those things. Like Ludwig pulled out of this week, which is a little concerning. Because one thing, and I've been saying this for a while, and I've made this mistake, I think you've got to be very careful with your bankroll,

betting winners. If you're going to bet $500 on a golf tournament, which is obviously a lot of money for most people, you know, you probably would take 10, 20% of that and sprinkle it on guys to win. You are much better off sprinkling it on top tens and top 20s. But even when you do that,

I've lost a lot of money three weeks ago at the RBC when all I did was put all my bankroll on Cam Young. I hammered him to top 20 and I hammered him to top 10. It's like a portfolio. I didn't have any... There was no balance. I went all in on one person

and he was terrible. And he didn't even come close to a top 20. And last week, I almost did it again with Mark Hubbard at the most random, irrelevant tournament of the year, Craig Ranch. And right at the end, I'm like, you know what? I'll throw a couple hundred dollars on Jake Knapp at 7 to 1 to top 10.

And it saved me. But one thing I'm going to try to consider consistently do is spread out my bankroll because I've done it before gone all in and it can really bite you in the ass. The other thing obviously with live betting, but Ludwig is a guy that I already have a wager on at Volhalla because after Jake Knapp made me some money instead of losing like $1,200 made me $900. I sprinkled it on him and Max and then all of a sudden you get the news that he's got a knee injury and he's pulling out. Now I did a little recon. Herd is not that big a deal and he's definitely playing next week as of right now, but it is definitely concerning.

Because I think if he's healthy, he is going to be U.S. Open, Valhalla, and the Masters. We'll see with the British Open. That's kind of a different animal. But I think those three tournaments for the next several years, I mean, he's going to be a guy that's 16, 17, 15, 15, 14 in that range and a top three or four guy on the board. But you get a knee injury. Like, that's, honestly, I don't regret. regret making the wager, but I don't know if I would do it if I knew the guy was injured or

was going to be injured. Maybe he heard it yesterday or maybe it's been a nagging thing. And then the other big curveball is Kepka is it's hard to know what to make of live. The courses they play, we've talked at Nauseum about they're kind of random, they're kind of weird. But he did go over to Singapore and win. And I think last year he did the same thing. He won right before the PGA championship, which he obviously then won. So he was a guy immediately when I saw that he won in Singapore,

I looked at Draft Kings, he was 20 to 1. He currently is now 16 to 1. Now, the hard part about golf betting is like I hammered him for the masters and he wasn't even in the mix. So how much, especially with these live guys, I expect some live guys to be in the mix, but does that carry over? I do think with him though specifically, he takes these majors very seriously. He's proven it now for five, six years. So one of these majors, if not multiple of these majors, he's going to be a factor.

And historically, like the PJ Championship's been a tournament he's very comfortable with. He's won at three fucking times. So he's the defending champ. I'd be a little shocked regardless of the resort course they just played 15 hours away, how hard that course is. That's not really the point. Because John Rom didn't win it. Bryson didn't win it

DJ didn't win it like the guy came to win because I think he's dialing in he's probably a little embarrassed about his master's performance and I to me Vig would have been my favor now with this knee injury I think you got to take Brooks very very seriously separating Scotty with kind of the unknown but like I said spreading out the bets

is a much easier way on the heart because it's golf it's weird this is not the Chiefs versus the Niners where you lose it's only one It's just you playing an opponent. There are so many different variables. Obviously, the stagger T times on Thursday and Friday. You get the bad end of the draw.

I'm going to go with Ludwig. Max Homa. I think Tommy Fleetwood is another guy this week to keep an eye on. But we're almost there to another tournament. Because let's face it, we got four tournaments a year that really kind of matter to us that watch golf. Now, for those of us, the gamble, we pay a little more attention to these random tournaments. But how much do they mean? Who knows?

Like, especially Craig Ranch. It means nothing. This week at Quail Hollow, you would say means a little more. When you look at the list of winners, Rory's won this a couple times, Homa's one here, Justin Thomas won his first major here in 2017. This is a big boy golf course. And this type of golf course that, to me, if you play well here, I think you've got to factor that in the following week.

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For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Something happened last week. after we recorded the go-low podcast. Tiger Woods is, I mean, in his heyday, it's probably my favorite athlete. Because I was, like, older than when Michael Jordan was in his heyday, so I could really experience it,

and I'll never forget my senior year in college, I was moving out, and all we had was a TV and watching him play Rocco on Sunday, and then watching on Monday by myself in this house that was empty, he meant a lot to my sports-watching youth. You know, I consumed, like a lot of people in the 2000s, Eldrick Tiger Woods. I love golf.

He's the best golfer I've ever seen and probably ever will see. And there was nothing like him. And part of Tiger Woods, and I owned a ton of Tiger Woods polos, Tiger Woods hats. Even as I've gotten bald, I've bought some of those Nike Tiger Woods hats because they cover my entire head. Anytime he plays, I watch, even though obviously he's very compromised now. I just think this Sunday red thing is going to be a failure. And I think there are several elements of this. One, he wants it to be kind of like a higher-end luxury brand.

So I wrote down the prices. A ballmarker is $50. A t-shirt is $70. A hat's $40, which isn't crazy. A polo is $120 to $150, which I'd say is a lot. A sweater is two bills. And the pants are about a buck $70. It's expensive stuff.

Tiger Woods in his heyday sold a lot of shit. I've said forever that he revolutionized the business casual in America. Because forever people wore weird stuff. The polos were huge, even go back to some of the pictures when he first started on tour. And then when they created that dry fit material, all the other companies followed suit and everyone that worked a white collar job that did not. Or he hell, farmers, I don't care what you did. Construction, you know, if you were a construction management guy,

if you didn't wear a suit to work, you could throw on a pair of jeans and a tucked-in polo. That fabric, dry fit, fit well, everyone was wearing it all over the place. Changed the game. But he had two things going for him. One, he was easily, very early on, became one of the most famous athletes in the world because he was the best player at a sport that is just difficult because you're playing 150 people and he was beating the shit out of all of them.

He destroyed everybody. I mean, it was not a fair fight. And then combined with that, he had the Nike marketing campaign machine behind him. So Tiger didn't really have to sell. He just had to dominate at golf and he looked so sweet in the clothes and the Nike marketing machine was incredible with commercials.

It was the ultimate combination of sales. It's like everyone wanted something with Tiger Woods. Even if you didn't play golf, probably had a polo, probably had a hat, you probably had something. And if you went into a store, you knew exactly what that was. The TW, the different colors,

the Sunday Red. And then he created this company, Sunday Red, which, listen, creating a brand from scratch is tough. It's not easy to pick a name. Anyone that's Red Shoe Dog, Nike was kind of randomly picked. It wasn't even supposed to be that name.

So it's not some of these things that are created that now have a lot of brand equity. McDonald's was just the last name of the brothers that started the burger chain that Ray Kroc ran into and basically stole the idea from. So I'm not going to hate on Sunday Red, even though, let's face it, it's not that great. I would have just gone with T.W. Here's the problem. Tiger Woods is not a sales guy. I watch some of the clips of him doing his PR. campaign last week.

One, it made me shake my head. It's not necessarily his fault, but his PR team sent him on what they would have done back in 2005. Good morning America. Let's go on some morning show with Carson Daily. Let's go on with Jimmy Fallon.

Who are you marketing this to? Let's face it. You're marketing this to someone 35 to 55 with a higher household income with some coin. Those people are not watching any of those shows. My mom watches Good Morning America A lot of older people watch that show But that's not who really Tiger Woods is marketing

He should be marketing this to me A 40-year-old guy He plays golf, has a little coin Just would buy these clothes Potentially Here's another problem He's coming into a saturated market Anyone that walks into a pro shop

Or a golf shop There are a million brands That all kind of resonate with us Travis Matthews, Johnny O, Peter Millar, and they're not cheap, but they have brand equity that like, yeah, I like the Travis Matthews shirt. It fits pretty well on me. I know a lot of people. I love Peter Millar.

I love Johnny O. Buddy of mine, Chris, just got me a nice polo for taking him golf in a couple weeks ago. Johnny O. Looks sweet. So Tiger is competing against those, but those people are already pushing it hard. Selling it. Tiger Woods is not a very good salesman. I would have said Tiger.

Don't do any of the crap the morning shows or the late night shows. Go on some big podcasts or some big YouTube show. Go on Pat McAfee. Go on with Colin. Go on No Laying Up or Barstool. Go on. Pardon my take. Go on.

Do something more relevant. To me, it just, these guys don't know how to sell. He never had to. He never had to sell. All he had to do was play and dominate. and that sold itself and Nike was behind him. Well now he doesn't have Nike behind him anymore

and his number one ability to sell was his play well he doesn't play anymore. He plays like four times a year and God love him he's just not very good anymore relative to the dominant player that he once was.

Like MJ hasn't dribble the ball professionally in whatever 20 plus years it doesn't matter he has Nike behind him having that backing they do this naturally. So I'm watching Sunday Red, one, the marketing doesn't really exist because that's not the business he's in.

And then Tiger is just to pound the pavement like High Noon. Why is High Noon so big now? They got with Portnoy and Portnoy starts selling the shit out of it. And now it's fucking everywhere. You need someone to sell if you don't just have like LeBron James or Kobe Bryant wearing your shoes. Because that was always Tiger Woods. He was just, Tiger was wearing it. So you wanted to wear it.

Well, now I don't care that he wears it. barely break 75 barely can walk 72 holes I'm not trying to talk shit about him it's not necessarily I mean it's kind of his fault self-inflicted car accident but it changes career

so I'm just betting against this company I do not think it's gonna work because I'm the type guy who can walk into a store and if I see a polo I like regardless I'm not gonna pay $500 for a polo but if I really believed

in the brand wanted to support it liked it I'll spend probably more than I should on a couple collar shirts I would not buy these shirts. One, I don't even think the logo looks that good. Why would he not just continue somewhat of a similar logo? I've seen a lot of people say the famous fist pump, like Michael's logo is very just, you never forget it. It's etched in stone in our brains. And I think Tiger made a very, very bad mistake. But I don't even blame him. This is not his business. He does not

understand because he's never really had to do it. So I guess I'm just shorting this idea. I do not think it's going to work. And that pains me to say that. We've been talking about the NBC situation with the U.S. Open. It's just, it's kind of sad. And they ended up going with like a four-man booth, Brandel Chambly, Brad Fxton. To me, and I like Brando. I think Brandel's really good. But like, Brando's the pre and postgame show. Like that's where he dominates, especially postgame. Life from. The tournament ends on a given day, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. You go and see what Brandl says what happened. You know, forcing him to do it, it's almost like they're just being cheap because he's already

under contract. Same thing with Faxson. He plays a pretty big role on that. You know, they refuse to sign a bigger name to just be in the... Can you imagine another sport doing this? Like, this was their pre and post game host. And they're going to put them on the broadcast just because you're cheap. I think we're at a tough time right now with some of these broadcast rights because they're

spending so much, and this is a golf problem. All these people are spending so much on the rights for the life sports, even though this technically is cheap because Foxx span half of it. And this is what we get. Kind of a thrown-together situation. And the no laying up guys have been saying it for a while.

I don't care what you say. I don't care how much you pretend to care. In life, words don't mean much. You got to judge people by their actions. And NBC's actions are simply saying, we do not care. We just don't care that much. Maybe we don't have the money.

Maybe it's a combination of it both. And this is not an indictment on Brano Chambley. He'll be fine. But imagine another network. What if the NBA is like, we're just going to throw Stephen A. Smith on the NBA finals. It's not really Stephen's job. He plays another role. And you can debate whether you like him or not.

Like his role is pretty successful, clearly. You wouldn't. And that kind of feels what. they're doing here. And it's kind of sad because this tournament's kind of a big deal. And last but not least, there are a couple young guys. I mean, there's a 15 year old named Miles Russell who was in the mix a couple weeks ago to win a corn fairy tournament. 15 years old. On a given week, the corn fairy tournament is equally as hard as the PGA tournament, given how low you have to go. Not necessarily to win it, but to make a cut. I mean, some of their cuts,

are like 7, 8 under. If you have one double bogey, you're not sniffing the cut. Like, you got to shoot like 67, 69. There's no 7470, like, see ya, audios, Godspeed, see you next week. For a 15-year-old to make the cut, that's a remarkable accomplishment.

It really is. And then last week, first time in like 11 years, a 16-year-old made the cut on the PGA tour. Listen, I started playing playing golf in, you know, early mid-90s. Golf was a lot more difficult then because the equipment was way shittier. I can play once a month, and it's not like I'm that great, but I can still, I've been playing

a long time. I just played last weekend. Hadn't touched the club in three weeks and I shot 76. I would never have been able to do that in 1996. So the equipment plays a huge role. And I'm glad the equipment is as good as is now. It makes the game a lot more fun. Most of us, the 99.9% of people, 99.9% of people that play golf are not professionals.

They're amateurs, and they're doing it for fun to enjoy themselves. But I do think it's going to get easier and easier because of the equipment. You know, it's just so good that you could hit it so far, your misses aren't as bad, and it's playing a role. I'm not for the rollback. But I do see the arguments. I don't want them to do it. But I do think this is a direct indictment when it comes to, you know, to the equipment manufacturers.

Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHard Radio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media.

Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated.

One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment. And the next, we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger.

So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to The Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Do you remember when Diana Ross

double-tap Little Kim's boobs at the VMAs? Or when Kanye said that George Bush didn't like black people. I know what you're thinking. What the hell does George Bush got to do with Little Kim? Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it.

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Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, let's bang out some questions because we got a lot of mailback questions at Golopod.

At Golopod. Fire in those DMs. Start with Cal. Question for the pod. Why are Jordan and J.T. so bad? Jordan didn't even make the cut at the Byron Nelson this weekend with an awful field. I feel like they should be in the peak of their powers and they can't even hold Scotty's shock. I mean, J.T. won a major a couple years ago and won the players a couple years ago.

He has been more recently, much more successful than Jordan Speeth. I just don't think Jordan Spee's that good anymore. whether it's he's not very accurate off the T whether he just can't consistently play well over a 36, 72 hole span. I love him. Like who doesn't? But I was watching him because I had the CJ Cup on TV. And on the ninth hole, it's a par five,

he hits this beautiful drive. This is on Friday. And he's kind of hovering right around the cut. I think the cut was at five or six under, and he was at five under. And he has a hybrid like, 230 yards in, and he just pumps it into the trees. It's a shot like me or you would hit.

And he just kind of drops the club, shakes his head, and puts his head down, kind of walks. I think he's just not a very consistent player. And maybe as you age, your body changes. You know, part of it, he was obviously in this heyday in 15 and 16 and incredible ball striker, but he was also one of the greatest putters we've ever seen for like an 18-month span. and I think when you take away the putting now isn't great,

but you just watch and play, you're just not very confident he's going to hit a big shot. It's really that simple, which is kind of sad when you really think about it. Hey, John, big fan. Golf question for you. When these live guys took those huge checks to leave for the PGA, to leave the PGA,

do you know any details in how long the deals were for? If Shephler continues to dominate, Don't you think some of the alphas like Brooks and Bryson, who have each had similar runs, will get jealous and want to try to put Scotty in his place? That's the crappy part about Liv. I mean, we really don't have any information. A lot of people speculate their three- and four-year deals.

Some might be shorter, depending on the player. You know, Liv basically got full go two years ago, right? In the middle of 2022 is when everyone initially left. And then some guys went later. Remember, Cam Smith went later. Rob just went. Neiman went a little later. So, I don't know.

This is the crappy part about this whole ordeal. Is there just so much unknown? No one has any clue. And it's pretty clear that everyone eventually is going to come back and play together. But I don't know, man. It sucks. But it's not public information. Feels like the Masters was the extent of Homa's game.

He was on his game all week and just couldn't hang with Scotty. I was rooting so hard for him, and it just wasn't there. Yeah, it's tough, man. I mean, sometimes if you're going to lose, there's nothing like losing to the best player. And I think it's easy for him to hang his hat high when he got a little unlucky on 12,

but I like him at Volholla. I like him a lot. I put a couple hundred dollars on him down 30 to 1. I saw he's 35 to 1. I wish I would have held off a little bit, but regardless. Like I think he's going to be a factor. I think that was a huge, huge hurdle for him to kind of get over. He'd only really played well in one major in his career to compete, to be in the mix,

to have the lead, to be right there at Augusta, which, let's face it, there's more pressure at Augusta than there's going to be at Valhalla. Not that there's not pressure at the PGA or the U.S. Open, but there's nothing like the Masters. There really isn't. And I saw him out there when I was out playing. When I play? Saturday, he was out there working. He practices a lot.

He practices a lot of TBC for hours. So I think he's taking the shit really seriously. I mean, he's been doing that for a while. But I think he's proven when he's won. He's won at tough places. It's why his game always should have translated to the majors. And, I mean, even Tiger Woods didn't win every major. Scott, he's going to be off on some.

I would be stunned. if over the next couple years Homa doesn't win a major. He's definitely going to be, I think, at a top 10 in a lot of these. So I like Max a lot at Valholler. Could you explain what the golf pros

are carefully studying in those notebooks they carry with them? I understand it as yardages, but do they draw diagrams of how things move on the green? Do they have notes from previous rounds at different distances at what they hit? Always amazed how long it takes them. Because I generally am on the course and know pretty

well where I hit the ball and the club to get there. Well, imagine if you did this for a living and you're not allowed to a range finder. So when these guys go Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and their caddies, they're taking meticulous notes, angles, flyers out of the rough, on given pin placements where you want to hit it on the green, what they did early in the week that didn't work, what they've done previously. I mean, if you've played a course several times, you will have a long-running notebook. It's really no different, like, Belichick on the Jets.

He'd been playing the Jets and the Dolphins for, you know, 20 years, twice a year. Imagine the length of notes he has on the individual players. It's no different on the individual golf holes. I think we don't give enough credit to the professional game how when you and me play and we pull out the range finder it's pretty easy just to sit there shoot the pin or shoot wherever we want to go

and then do whatever we need to do they are stepping off everything stepping off everything and let's face it every shot especially in bigger tournaments is a pretty big deal so I think it's just notes on from practice rounds

some of these guys that talk about You know, the leaders on Saturday and Sunday will watch in the morning, especially in the front nine. Like if they're at home and it's on the golf channel or on ESPN Plus, they'll be watching, taking notes. So I think it's just notes on every situation, every area. Because if you're doing a practice round on a Tuesday, let's say at Quill Hollow or Valhalla,

you don't know you're going to hit it over there. So it's like, well, we should try this from, the general area, the fairway, where I hit my drive, but we might as well want to throw one over there in the rough or throw one over there in the bunker and know how, you know, what's safe to do if, are we going to try to fly if the pin is behind a bunker or if the pin is on a water side, like should we just,

I think it's a lot of just basic notes. Obviously, some guys probably take more in depth writing that way than others. Some just leave it to their caddy. I would say everyone's a I mean Matt Fitzpatrick The guy that won the US Open two years ago Has taken notes on every shot he's ever hit Every shot he's ever hit

Think about that Okay I throw out a little thing on my story And a lot of you guys hit me up So let's uh Let's bang out some of these questions You know any good golf websites To learn online I think the easiest thing by far

Is whatever you want to do So you got a slice let's say you're chunking the ball let's say you can't chip is type in what you're doing to YouTube every single golfer ever from Tiger Woods to Phil Mickelson

to me to you has done that so type it into YouTube that's where I would recommend how old were you when you first began golfing and how did it catch your attention I started playing when I was young did some junior golf stuff played a lot with my dad so I you know

early I don't know six, seven, eight, probably in that range. So I've been playing for a long time. But then I took a lot of time off. I didn't really play in college, even throughout my 20s. I played a lot when I was young and in high school, and then a lot in my 30s. But I would say in my 20s, when I worked in football, I definitely did not play as much. We had a membership when I worked for the Eagles in Jersey.

So a couple of the guys on the staff, we'd go over definitely in the springtime, like right around now in the summer. But during the falls, I never played. when I worked in football. Realistic future of the PGA, your guess is as good as mine. I mean, I think we have a basic understanding that there is no future

for the professional game on television if they don't get back together. It cannot exist. It is not a... It's not possible to function as is right now. It will continue to fail. Ratings down. But if they can get back,

back together they have a chance of some sustainability at a much higher level than they're currently going. So I would say they just got to merge. And how that looks, who knows? Who knows? Clearly not going that smoothly. A lot of egos involved. The PGA, let's face it, they kind of lost. They kind of lost. And I think anytime you lose in a negotiation in a position where you're in a good position and you tell someone to kick rocks or fuck you, we're not doing business with you. And then even if they're not quote unquote successful because no one was watching,

they did put a huge, huge dent in the PGA tour. Stole a bunch of major champions, stole some of the most famous guys, and directly hurt their product. No way around it. Directly hurt. In business, it wouldn't have been that big a deal. You'd be like, well, you've got a competing product,

do that. In golf, it cannot work that way. It's just not big enough. No sport is. You couldn't take Janice, Luca, and Steph and put them in some other league in America and have it not hurt the NBA. I couldn't take 10 of the starting 32 quarterbacks

and put them in another football league and have it not hurt the NFL. I took some of the most famous guys on the PJ Tour, champion players, polarizing players. It was a devastating miscalculation by Jay Monaghan. it really was, which is crazy because you go, wait, we're dealing with someone who has an unlimited amount of money, who clearly loves addicted to golf,

and is just coming for this sport. It's like, well, have they ever done that before with other sports? Yeah, a lot of them. Soccer, racing, they're all over it. So we probably should take them seriously. This isn't just some pipe dream. This is a real dream. backed by billions

and they don't give a crap if people watch or not. It's not the point. You can say sports washing maybe that's a part of it. To me it impacts it less but I understand that argument. It's more like

we want to run a golf league. I think the soccer, I really think this guy, we all met golf guys, wants in on golf. How's live sports washing? Like no one even watches it. He utilized Live to get in on the PGA tour

and play a role, whatever that may be. Is Rory ever going to win Augusta? Sure doesn't look like it. Sure doesn't look like it. I would say right down no. As someone that put out a $1,000 ticket on him. I would say no. Why are Asian women able to dominate the LPGA,

but there are very few top Asian men? It's a pretty good question that I don't have the answer to. I don't know why that's the case. Because clearly, look at baseball, they're dominating a baseball. They dominated the LPGA. There are, I mean, Hadeki Matsiyama was a consistent top 10 player over the years. A guy who won the Masters. It doesn't feel like there are that many.

I don't have an answer to that. Clearly, they love golf over there. Give me one good reason That's a liquidate my 401k And put it on Brooksie It's a good question I don't have a great answer to that I just

He kind of let me down at the Masters But I would imagine he's coming Dream Golf Vacation Maybe two or three trips you want to take I've played band in Dunes before In band and Trails And old McDonald But I want to go back

and it was an incredible experience. We went from my little brother's bachelor party, actually. We drove from Davis. It was remarkable. But I play so much more golf now. I just, I have to go back. So that would be one place that I've already been that I got to go back. I would say the new one would be Pinehurst,

which clearly looks like a special, special destination place to just a lot like Bandon. It's different. I mean, Bandon is so windy. We played 36 holes in a day We played Bannon trails and then Bannon Dunes And the wind was so outrageous But you're there and you're like it doesn't It's like whatever

And obviously any sort of trip across the pond To play the old course and You know some of the great courses over there Would be a no-brainer But I would say Bandon and Pinehurst is just an easier destination So those would be three That I definitely want to check I mean Bannon's already been checked off the list

But I want to do it again How often should I play in practice if I want to shoot consistently in the 80s? I think it depends how long you've been playing. Do you have a good base? Do you know what you're doing? If you're shooting 100 right now, if you just practice on your own, you might not know what you're doing and you might just be up and down, so you probably should take some lessons.

If you're shooting like in the low 90s, I would say do a couple things. practice your chipping, practice shots 50 yards and in, and practice your driver. The more fairways you hit and the better chipper you are, you're going to make a lot more parse. You know, forever, the entire time golf has been around, everyone's always hammered on. Pudding, putting, putting, putting. One thing the analytic community has proven, and this has definitely always been true for amateurs, when you're in the shit constantly, it's hard to score.

Even if you're an average golfer, if I put you in the middle of the fairway, however far you hit it, 240, 300, 260, whatever, it's a lot easier to play golf. Think about most of your good scoring holes. Come off good drives. Because if I put you on a 400-yard hole, let's say you hit it 260 yards.

We got 140 yards in. So even if you don't hit a great pitching wedge or nine iron or whatever, you're still going to be relatively close around the green. It's why. Hit fairways and learn how to chip. Pudding sucks.

You can just try to just figure that out. You know, for most of us, if you can just be a decent putter and lag putts, like you're never going to be Brad Faxon. Fairways, chipping. What is in your bag currently? I think I've had the same bag for basically six, seven years. You know how a lot of pro-golfer say?

I will not go to Augusta until I play at Augusta. I will not get new clubs until we get a sponsor here on the show. So probably like five, six years ago, dude that followed me on Instagram is a big sales rep for Taylor Made. I think he's like their number one sales rep

in the Sacramento area, a big Raider fan. He gave me a discount for like 50% off, so I ordered the 790s. I've had those for, I don't know, five plus years. Pitching Wedge through Four Iron. I have tidaless wedges that I've had 10 years. I've had the same wedges forever, which is probably not great.

I probably need to get new wedges. I have two tailor-made, a hybrid and a three wood that I bought at the PJ Superstore a couple years ago, like used clubs that I hit it pretty well. And then I have a Maverick Callaway driver. So it's a little bit of a mish-mash, but I'm not getting new clubs. I still play well enough with them until we get them through. this show. So that's something I'm going to stay very

close with. Most embarrassing moment on the course. We've all had one. It's a good question. I mean, I've had a lot of them. Most of us do. It has to revolve around gambling and fucking up. Me and my brother play

sometimes we'll do 100, 100, 100. Like 100 aside and then 100 overall. Probably one of the bigger gambling. I mean, he's the guy that I gamble with the most when I play. Most other people I'm betting, we're betting, you know, a buck a hole, or nothing great at five bucks. But I remember we were on a vacation for Thanksgiving in Hawaii. This is probably 2019.

We never really do family trips like that, but we did it forever. I never went because I was always working, and I went, and it was cool. And we were playing golf every day, and we were playing for a lot of money. And I think I had double or nothing to me on 18, and I striped the drive. I had like 100 yards in. and I shanked it into the pool. I think it was like the Wai pool or, you know, the hotel pool. And it was a pretty devastating moment.

Only him and me saw, but it sucked. What do you see as the realistic timeline for the tours coming together? I would say it's got to happen in the next six months. I mean, there is tangible pressure on the PGA tour to figure this out. They're just not with the Saudis. They just don't care, clearly. And they will just sign more people to just keep bleeding them dry. To me, I think it's fair to say in the next three months

before the end of the PGA tour season, before football stars. If you don't have a deal, I don't know what we're doing. I really don't. And that'd be pretty embarrassing. Okay, a couple more. Do you think Tiger can ever compete in another major going in the final round?

This pains me to say, but I don't. I just, I think he's proven to not have 72 holes in him. And I don't think that's going to change. It was clear before he got this fusion, he could barely walk. I would say he walks better now, but he clearly leaks oil Saturday Sunday. It's a lot on his body.

When he said that he was going to play once a month, I think he was being ambitious because he likes playing, he likes competing, but I think he's much closer to being like Charlie's dad coach getting him ready for like college golf than he is competing. And I don't think we ever see him, I don't think he ever finished his top 10 in a major ever again. I think just making the cut for him is a pretty, pretty awesome accomplishment at this point in time.

Okay, well, and on the strengths and weaknesses of your game, I don't really have that many strengths. I would say I hit it relatively far, you know, compared to golfers. But when I'm on, I just, I hit a nice little baby cut, even though it's kind of been drawn lately. but not a great chipper, bad putter, bad in the sand, not that accurate off the tea unless I've been drinking. Pretty good, like, hybrid three-wood player. I'd say one thing is, like, I can pound a three-wood off the tea if shit's hitting the fan.

I hit my three-wood, 260, 270 yards. But not a great long-iron player, short irons, very hit or miss. A sand game is horrendous. No clue. You get in the sand, you're like, I don't even know. What am I doing? So a lot of weaknesses. Strengths would probably be good vibes too.

Always down, any moment, especially on a weekend. We're playing early. You want to get a cocktail? You want to rip a shot after nine? Want to get some post-clubhouse beers? That's probably my number one strength. Good hang. Easy to play golf with.

Fun drinking, buddy. Got some good stories. talk football in the golf course. You know, probably average a birdie or two around, but several doubles and lost balls. So I'm probably the worst four or five handicapped you'll ever meet because I can shoot 75, but I can also shoot 92. At any moment, at any moment, any course, any course,

it can be what is going on. Mental midget can implode like most of you. I mean, golf's hard. And I think I was playing with a couple guys on Saturday, and they were pretty bad. And I was actually playing pretty well. But it's funny, I've tried to have the attitude of just like, just enjoy it. You know, this isn't competition in the sense.

I'm not playing in a tournament. If you're gambling, you take it a little more seriously. But if you're just out playing with some buddies, I usually play a different T's than they played. But I was like, you know what? You guys are playing the White T's? I'll play the White T's with you. you. I just had a good time. I heard Inwoman say that to Riggs and guys on Foreplay. He's like,

sometimes I'll play with friends. It's like, just because I'm a pro golfer, I'm not going to play the tips and you guys are playing the men's teas. It's kind of just being out there having a good time, having a little social element to your life. So just play the same tease as the people you're playing with. I'm going to try to do that more often. And it was a really, really fun experience. And I'm just trying to enjoy golf instead of getting some, in 2020, in 2023, I didn't really enjoy it. Wasn't playing well. You just, you don't have fun.

My whole point of this thing is to have fun. So I would say weaknesses, basically everything, strengths, having a good time. Volume. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an a a cappella band with their between songs banter.

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