The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Go Low - The Masters are coming, JT is coming back, Creator Classic

Episode Date: April 3, 2025

John previews The Masters by discussing the importance of the top players in the game needing to step up, how the international players are in it to win, and how Justin Thomas looks like he's back to ...playing his game. Next, John dives into the LIV players and how it's hard to judge how well they will play in the majors. Then, he talks about how impressed he was with the Creator Classic and what changes he would make to the event. Lastly, John answers your questions during this episode's mailbag segment. 5:51 - The best guys need to step up 20:19 - International players in The Masters 25:27 - JT is coming back 26:26 - When do the LIV players stand 29:04 - Creator Classic 37:11 - Mailbag Follow John on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube for the latest. Check out Gametime - the fastest growing ticketing app in the US, and the official ticketing app of 3 & Out and GoLow -  for tickets to all of your favorite NFL, NBA, NHL, NCAA teams. Concert and comedy show tickets, too. Go to Gametime now to create an account, download the app and use code JOHN for $20 off your first purchase. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:25 I thought today we do a little a little Golo podcast. We got the Masters right around the corner. It'll be here next week. Very, very fired up. So I want to do a little look back at the beginning of the season
Starting point is 00:02:39 as we transition. If you're listening to this, the Valero is probably already off and running. Not, I didn't really have any thoughts on that. Hard to gauge, you know, the week before with not that many big names, kind of a weird field. Obviously, I think I saw a stat 12 of the last 14 guys to win this tournament had not been in the Masters.
Starting point is 00:03:03 So obviously if you win this weekend, you get an auto invite next week, which is, I don't know, kind of a big deal. Akshay Batia did it last year. Has to be pretty cool to get the, to win, make a bunch of money, and then be like, hey, you're going to Augusta. So we're going to do a little look back, kind of big picture on the season as we, I mean, once the masters start, we are in the major season. The PGA is right around the corner basically every month.
Starting point is 00:03:28 We get the PGA, the U.S. Open, and the British, and then football is back. So obviously also a Ryder Cup season, big year for a lot of guys, not just on our squad, but some of these Euros, some of the dudes on Live. you know, this is when Kepka kind of makes his hay in major season. You know, Bryson is going to be on the Ryder Cup. I think no matter what, I guess he could just miss every cut in the majors, which I doubt's going to happen. But I think we're going to start seeing a mixture of those guys,
Starting point is 00:03:59 which also factors into next week because Patrick Reed, Sergio, Phil actually is playing really well. And is a guy that's won the Masters, I don't know, multiple times. so we will dive into that. Live basically copy the PGA, which I do not blame them, and are doing a creator classic. They're calling it the duels,
Starting point is 00:04:22 though I think their version might be better. And I give them credit for doing a couple things, so I want to dive into that. And then like we do every week, I will take some of your questions. The easiest way to get in on the show is at Golopod. at Golopod is the Instagram for the golf podcast.
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Starting point is 00:06:09 draft it off him, carrying the sport for most of, you know, my late youth and high school and college is over and now it's in other people's hands. It's very, very important that the best players play well in the biggest tournaments and specifically the majors. But part of golf, it's a little like baseball. It's every weekend. And guys like Rory and Scotty are going to end up probably playing 20 plus times a year. So it really matters that they're in the mix when they play. And we've been very lucky over the last couple of years.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Rory has had a chance to win I think three of the last eight majors. Think about last year, Zander won two, Scotty won another, and Bryson and Rory dueled it out at the U.S. Open. You can't ask for much
Starting point is 00:07:00 more. Golf is better when there is not parity. No different than tennis. individual sport, and you could argue team sports as well. It's better when everyone is chasing the Yankees and the Dodgers. Or the Patriots have a dynasty. Or, you know, in basketball, when Kevin Durant went to the Warriors. Everyone wants to see if you can beat them.
Starting point is 00:07:20 I'm sorry, like, I don't just believe that. I think the numbers show it's definitely with individual sports. When Federer, when Pete Sampras, when Joker, when one of those guys is on top, I almost called him Djokovic. That is his name, Jokevich. I was going to get Nicole Yokic. who had a 60 point triple double last night in a loss, which I have to imagine as the first time in NBA history that's ever happened.
Starting point is 00:07:45 But we need Rory and we need Scottie to play well. And I think when you look back over the beginning of the year, this is why I think it's crazy when I hear people saying that Rory is like, he just can't get it done in the biggest tournaments. Well, he hasn't lately. And I understand he hasn't won a major in 10 years. But if you've watched the sport, you know, for a long, period of time, multiple years, you would be insane to think this guy's never going to win a big
Starting point is 00:08:12 tournament, aka one of the majors. Honestly, I think it's way more likely that he wins multiple majors moving forward than he never wins another one. Now, does that mean he's going to win the masters in a week? I don't know. We have had a lot of hype on him coming into this tournament and he's underwhelmed. And it's happened to him in other majors as well. But I would say over the course of the last couple years, he couldn't have been much closer. I mean, he should have won the Open the year, the Air Camp Smith won it. Obviously, last year, he blew it down the stretch, missing two putts in the last three holes. And he easily could have won at LACC, the U.S. Open, what was that, two years ago? And he couldn't make a putt to save his life. But I don't
Starting point is 00:08:56 know if he's ever going to win the Masters. If I was a betting man, which I am, I would say yes. Do I plan on putting money on him next week? I do. I think when you watch him play this year, it'd be one thing. It's like, Roy has two wins this year. It's like, what tournaments did he win? It's like, oh, the century. Now, I understand he never goes to Hawaii. And the Amex, and he ain't playing that either.
Starting point is 00:09:17 But I'm just, for a hypothetical sake, let's just say those were his two tournament wins. I would not feel the same as winning at Pebble Beach in inclement weather and winning at the players when half the field had no shot and looked terrible. So, like, I think his form, and then you watch him last week, it's like, first round, it's like, does he even want to be here? Was he, did he just go to get a couple reps? And he's going to kind of like do a sneaky miss the cut and then just fly home. It's like, no, he then shot four under, five, under six under the last three days.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Now, the one thing that scares you a little bit, and this is what golf has battled for a long time, is we're balls deep now in gambling. So I would like some sort. of universal injury report, but that doesn't happen. So you're like, yeah, there's word out on the street that something's up with this guy's knee. You're like, well, then I probably wouldn't have bet money on him over the last month, but you don't know until it's too late. Roy just told us.
Starting point is 00:10:19 He's like, yeah, something's up with my elbow. Now, the way he said it, it's almost like he had a little smile. He's like, is he just messing with everybody? Is he actually good? Is he trying to throw people off the scent? Is he trying to lower the hype going into Augusta? because for a split second on Sunday, you're like, couldn't Rory win this tournament? Now, he was too far back and he ended up, honestly, it turned out wasn't even that close.
Starting point is 00:10:43 But he did mention, it sounds a little up with my elbow, but then he said his coach was flying out and they were going to dial in. The previous week, he'd already been to Augusta. I'd be stunned if he's not a major factor. Now, is he going to win? We talked about this over the last couple weeks. if you bet money on him last year and you were watching that group when he was playing with Scottie Sheffler
Starting point is 00:11:05 and the wind started to pick up and he had no shot, you're like, Scottie Sheffler's in a different world. I think as we sit here today, they are, I mean, Rory's obviously been better this year benefited from not having raviolis and shards of glass in his hands.
Starting point is 00:11:22 But I just have a hard time thinking Rory has ever been better at golf than he is right now. And the positive momentum he has, obviously going into the Masters and just the major season in general. Now for the first time, and we talked about this last week, was, you know, listen, you have an injury, it throws you off, like it's golf. It's kind of like it's baseball.
Starting point is 00:11:44 It's a thinking man sport, and if you get too far away from it, it's a specific skill. If you go two months without hitting a baseball, you don't just hop right back in the batters box and handle, you know, 100 miles an hour and a big league curve. It takes you some time to get your timing back. Golf is no different. So when you look at Scottie, and I would throw Zander in this as well, when they have injuries and they are not able to play golf,
Starting point is 00:12:08 it is a problem. And Zander, that's why he's in this weird category, has a career league year last year, wins multiple majors, then he gets his rib injury and it's like, I don't know, it's going to take him some time. Wouldn't shock me if he's fully healthy, that he gets back to form here in a couple tournaments
Starting point is 00:12:24 and by like the U.S. Open and the British, he's a major factor. But Scotty, it was like, I don't know, man. he's not playing terribly, but he doesn't look quite as dominant as he was last year, but kind of understandable, still a shards of glass in his hand that they were like going to slowly take out. And then Sunday happened. And you're like, that's the Scotty Sheffler that I know. That's the guy that beat the shit out of everyone last year and won $65 million playing golf.
Starting point is 00:12:50 That's the guy. Now, he ultimately didn't win the tournament because Min Wu Lee got up and down on 18 from the back of the green. but like that version of that player can beat anyone in the world any given week and probably will if he's going to play like that. And that was, like I was off the Scotty Sheffler sent.
Starting point is 00:13:10 I'm like three and a half to one. I understand he dominates at Augusta, but he's not playing that well and then that happens. And especially on the back nine, he's just birdie, birdie, birdie, and he's just peppering flags. You're like, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Scotty is coming. You know, it's like that, it's like that Giff when Omar and the wire turns the corner. And I think if you are someone like who's going to gamble on this tournament, I don't think it's crazy to have a little Scotty Sheffler exposure. Now, he's got to have a unique career, right? He feels like a guy that's won multiple majors when he just won,
Starting point is 00:13:48 he has won multiple majors, but like at a bunch of different venues, like this is the only course in which he's won. He has not won the U.S. Open. He has not won the British Open. has not won the PGA championship. Now granted, last year, he was the favorite going in and he got arrested, kind of threw him off. But certain people are very comfortable, certain places,
Starting point is 00:14:07 and this is the only major of the year where the course never changes. It's why Phil has been a factor there for a long time. It's why everyone gets bullish, you know, when Tiger is semi-healthy, that he can win there. You know, Bubba Watson, this guys can go back. Patrick Reed plays well there every single year. Go to his wiki right now. See the last like five years how well Patrick,
Starting point is 00:14:26 Reed, who has not been that good at golf over the last couple of years, plays at Augusta. It's no different than some of us, right? You'll meet a guy. I'm one that when I'm playing well, it's like, oh, this is, meet my buddy John Middlecuff. He's a three handicapped. Well, yeah, at my home course, when I'm playing a lot and I'm playing well, it's like, yeah, I can shoot high 70s every round when I'm playing well, not right now, struggling to break
Starting point is 00:14:52 85. But you take me somewhere else, all of a sudden, it's like, well, have this guy just shoot 86 because that's most, you know, I would say country club golfers. I'm not technically a country club guy, but the point remains. And when you take them away from their home base, anything is possible. That's what separates really good golfers. I have countless friends, especially college guys that played in college, their handicap, it's like they can shoot par anywhere.
Starting point is 00:15:18 You can take them to Oakmont, you can take them to Pebble Beach, you can take them to the local muni. Their games translate. Most of ours do not. It's no different with some of the guys like from 50 to 150 on the PGA tour. You get them at tournaments like the one they just played in Houston or some of these tournaments like in Mexico or, you know, I'm trying to think early on in the season. Certain guys are just comfortable certain places. Toasty's really comfortable last week.
Starting point is 00:15:46 And they feel, you know, it just works for their game, especially guys that aren't that accurate off the T. Some of these courses like have big ass fareways. And then you get to the majors, it's like, holy shit, this is a different ballgame. And when you miss the fairway and you're in rough or your irons are a little off and you're missing greens, all of a sudden golf becomes really complicated and very, very difficult at the highest level. And Scotty is a guy when he's on. He's, I mean, again, having a tiger season is a lot different than having a tiger career has a long way to go. But there is no arguing.
Starting point is 00:16:24 that's one of the great seasons we've ever seen. And the crazy part is, is it's like, it almost felt underwhelming because how did he not win more majors? But this is a big year. And, you know, in a big picture thing, like the one thing now with Scotty, it's like, we know we can win the Masters.
Starting point is 00:16:43 And more than likely, if he stays healthy over the next four or five years, he's going to win it again. But, like, I think it's pretty important to rattle off one of the other majors. But after you watch him on Sunday, you're like this guy's going to be a factor. The finals for March mania are here
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Starting point is 00:21:24 You win a tournament? Like, it's still there. And at any moment, if this guy figures it out, watch the you know, what out. So to me, Victor Hovlin is a guy who has had a lot of success in majors, who just won a tournament, who's just trying to still figure things out. Like, he's got it in him. And I don't know if that's going to come this year in the majors. Maybe it doesn't. Would it shock me if he shoots 80 at the Masters? It would not. Would it also shock me if you look up round one and it's like, Victor Hovlin, just shot five under? It would not either. If he is close,
Starting point is 00:21:59 which is hard to think that he's not because of the way that he does. just won despite what he's saying. Like, he just beat Justin Thomas, you know, who was having a fantastic year. I don't know if it's going to be the Masters, but I would keep a close eye on him, especially, I mean, this was a guy two years ago whose odds going into big tournaments would hover from like 17, 18, 19 to 1. And if you start seeing a guy like him at 30, 40, 50 to 1, especially if he has a couple bad tournaments, I would just not be afraid to sprinkle.
Starting point is 00:22:32 you know max homa is a guy who last year was leading the masters was leading the masters who has never played well in majors and your boy might a live bet him and then the moment that shot on 12 went into the bush I looked and I had put a decent amount of money on him the cash out was basically for like 95% of my bet and I hit it immediately it's almost like I beat draft kings of the punch and I got my money back and then he double bogeied that hole and it was over
Starting point is 00:22:59 but you know you look at max this year he's kind of in shamed I didn't realize how bad it was going. He's played in seven events. He's missed four of those cuts, and he has zero top 25s. I mean, this was a guy, I would say 12 months ago who was viewed as one of the better Americans. A Locke Rider Cup, it felt like type guy for several years moving forward. And someone who had kind of figured it out and it was just going to be a major problem
Starting point is 00:23:26 in the majors after the Masters. And not only did that not happen, he's kind of falling apart. And he's got new clubs, he's got new apparel. I'm a fan of his game, but I don't know. I might have, just because I'm a sucker for value, he was 120 to 1 this week at the Valero. 120 to 1. I might have thrown $25.
Starting point is 00:23:49 To pay like $3,300. I'm like, you know, maybe this guy finishes DFL. Maybe Max shoots 78, 75 and doesn't sniff the cut. Or maybe, like, he just, I don't. knows a guy that's won several times on the PGA tour just like it figures it out. Once you get to a certain odds and you're a player that has shown his caliber, it's hard not to just throw like 20 bucks on a guy. It's like, wait, I can just throw 20 bucks on a guy who has won countless times.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Again, maybe he sucks. We just saw it a couple weeks ago with Hovlin. Hovlin was proclaiming to everybody. Like, I am terrible at golf right now. He was shooting 80, shooting 80. And then all of a sudden it's like, he wins. Now, Victor Hovland, when they're both going right, Victor Hovlin's a better player than Max Homa.
Starting point is 00:24:37 But still, like, you look at this field, it's not great. I would say one big picture thing for the Ryder Cup and just for the majors in general is Justin Thomas is kind of back. He's not all the way back because he just didn't win a couple weeks ago, and this is a guy that, you know, I think when his career's over, he'll easily have more than 20 plus wins on the PGA tour. And it wouldn't shot.
Starting point is 00:25:00 me if he finishes with like three or four majors. He's got two right now, two PJ championships. But he's a guy that for some reason, you know, I used to bet on him in the Masters and he would never play well there. In theory, it should be a good spot for him. You know, a guy that can work the ball both ways, fantastic short game. Pudding has kind of been his downfall. It's clearly not an easy place to put. And then when Bones went to his bag, you're like, well, Bones has been there for Phil. Countless wins, this guy's going to know. And it just didn't really go well, but I do think J.T. If not the Masters, is just a guy to watch and check the odds out for the majors.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Because if you can get JT at like a U.S. Open at a PJ Championship, even a British Open, if his odds are closer to like 35, 40 to 1 than they were when he was playing at an elite level, like 16 to 1, there's just value there, especially with top 10s and top 20. If you can get plus odds on JT ever to top 20 in big tournaments, that to me is an auto hammer. Anything else? I do think the hard part about this, and we'll dive into Liv here in a second, is knowing where these live guys stand.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Right? I mean, I was listening to a podcast today. Phil's been playing really well. And he's 55 years old, coming into the Masters. We'll see how he does this week down in Florida at Trump. They're playing Doral. But I don't think it's crazy to sprinkle a little money on Phil. But the big guys, like, John Rom is a guy that feels completely out of sight, out of mind.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Like, the difference of John Rom and Bryson feels dramatic. Like, Bryson feels very much in my life. Now, obviously, part of that's YouTube. And as someone that watches a lot, if not all Bryson's YouTube videos, I'll say this. You can't take much away when Bryson's doing the break 50 and they're playing the Reds. Like, I don't really judge his game in that moment. though it usually looks pretty cool because he's hitting like, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:05 five irons from 250 yards par fours. When you just watch Bryson go to a random course and try to break the course record, you go, holy shit, this guy's good. And the one thing they say about the masters is like it benefits left-handed players or right-handed guys withdraws. And when you watch Bryson,
Starting point is 00:27:26 now if you just, obviously the last couple years, he's played a pretty distinct draw, not just off the T, but with his irons. When you watch him on these YouTube videos, when he's just playing a random course in like Texas, trying to break the course record, you're like, every ball he hits is a drop. And, you know, I know a couple years,
Starting point is 00:27:44 he took a lot of shit because he had said that it was a par 67, and I think he went out and shot like 74, 75. But, and listen, I didn't blame anyone. Like, Price and the Master, it's going to be a weird spot for him. Last year it was not. and he finished tied for sixth and he was right in the mix over the weekend to win it until he kind of melted down on hole 13
Starting point is 00:28:08 when he chunked that chip and it just kind of fell apart. But I do think if you look back at last year, you go, I don't want to say he's figured it out, but he clearly is much more comfortable there and his shot shape really works. So I'm not saying he's going to win the Masters this year, but I think you're a little crazy to not have a little exposure
Starting point is 00:28:32 and to think that Bryson can't be a serious... I expect Bryson to be a serious factor in all these tournaments. Now, the master is less than the other three, especially the PGA and the U.S. Open. He is going to be the guy people root for. He's essentially like Bob does sports grant. If those guys were good enough to play in majors, everyone would be rooting for them.
Starting point is 00:28:54 That is Bryson. He's like a content creator. He has a content creator. He has a lot of fans. People just like and enjoy watching him play golf on YouTube. I'm telling you, he is going to have such a home field advantage when he plays in the PGA championship in the U.S. Open. The Masters is a little tempered just because of the way the patrons and the fans is just not as crazy of an environment. But I think a lot of people are behind him, and I think that really matters for a guy like him.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Kepka, you could be booing Kepka, and it wouldn't face him. If he's playing well. Is he playing well? I don't know. But I'm excited to watch that. You know, Live, they copied, I watched a couple weeks ago, went to players, the creator classic. Then Horvatt ended up winning.
Starting point is 00:29:45 And listen, I thought it is a good idea. Clearly, we're a lot of people there. I think approaching it like a normal golf tournament is pretty dumb. You should kind of lean into the craziness. I thought, why didn't you have, like, Bob does sports commentating? Like, that's what I would have said, Hey, Bob, you take the microphone here and just be crazy.
Starting point is 00:30:07 But the tour, still a little stiff, still a little conservative, is clearly uncomfortable doing that. You know who is not uncomfortable doing that at all is live? And the difference of their creator classic and the PJ Tours Creator Classic is the PJ Taurus Creator Classic was just a bunch of dudes playing, which is not a bad, I'm not saying it's a bad idea. I was entertained.
Starting point is 00:30:29 But these, like, part of being at the players or being at Live is like you do have the best players in the world right around there. And Liv's like, hey, Dustin Johnson, Cam Smith, Phil Mickelson, all you guys, you guys are playing. It's a little weird that Bryson's not playing, maybe because he would want it on his YouTube channel. And they're putting it. Here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:30:50 The Creator Classic was on Golf Channel. I just go fully on YouTube, where there aren't really any rules. You know, on Golf Channel, you're still following some of the FCC rules. It's got an old school feel to it, you know, with a broadcast. You going on Grant Horvats channel, which, you know, listen, Grant is a rock star right now in the YouTube space. He doesn't swear. It's not like, you know, if Bob does sports is like the barstool of YouTube golf, I know Forplay has a YouTube as well.
Starting point is 00:31:22 But, you know, I would say what I think YouTube creators, when it comes to golf, I would say Bob and Joey and Fapp Perez and Grant are the biggest. Now, you could argue good, good is huge. You could argue, you know, the Brian Bros are big. I watch them.
Starting point is 00:31:39 I watch it all. I enjoy YouTube golf, but I think part of what makes it pretty special is it's kind of raw, you know, and that's kind of what the consumer likes. It's pretty authentic. There aren't really rules behind it, kind of do whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Though I would say, you know, Grant kind of hangs his hat, like, he's not swearing. Like, it's, it's, I would say it's much more made for kids. And it's probably no wonder why Grant has a lot of younger fans because their parents feel very comfortable watching it. Like, if I had an eight-year-old, would I let him watch Bob? I'd probably be hypocritical because I drop a lot of F-bombs as well. But, you know, it's just kind of a different vibe.
Starting point is 00:32:17 But bringing Bob to commentate it with all the stars playing, it's going to get some viral moments. and it's going to be a really big deal on Grant's channel. Now, there was a report that the PGA tour was not happy with this and reached out to, you know, not just the creators, but like, you know, Wesley Bryan, I think made like 900K last year on the PGA tour and was not happy with him playing in this event. Now, that report came from like a live account essentially, so I don't know what to believe or not to believe.
Starting point is 00:32:54 I would say this, at this point in time, just you guys got to figure it out. Like, there's no more banning people. There's no more getting mad at other people for doing things. Like, this is the Wild Wild West, and it's on you to get everyone back on board and figure it out. Like the days of a couple years ago, suspending people for life and kicking them off the tour,
Starting point is 00:33:15 that was proven to be an awful, awful misstep. And if it is true that you are going after and pressuring, you know, the Brian Bros or the Horvats or the Bob does sports, like if you do this, you're going to be no longer allowed in any of our sanctioned events in Creator Classics. That would be the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. That would be what you would call awful, awful business. So I hope that they did not do that because that would be beyond stupid.
Starting point is 00:33:46 But overall, I'm pretty excited to watch this Live Creator Classic here in a couple days. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, name? Huge news. We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts.
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Starting point is 00:37:08 Sometimes I see golf questions in my normal Instagram. That's just going to get lost in the shuffle. So if you want to get your questions answered on the Golo podcast, you have to Instagram or DM me on at GoloPod. That's the Instagram. So at Golo Pod, fire in those DMs. I've been thinking about some bets to make for the Masters. Looking at Min Woo Lee off his win,
Starting point is 00:37:32 I'm looking to go pretty extreme one way or the other. I think the best bet is probably to take him to top 20, but I'm thinking about taking him to top 10 or taking him to miss the cut completely. Figured maybe he's on his high horse and Augusta gets him. Or with him playing good and having good finishes at Augusta in prior years, he can take the next step. Does either side of that coin speak more than the other?
Starting point is 00:37:57 You know what's fascinating about that guy? he swings out of his you know what off the tee. Like, I don't think you can swing any harder. There can't be many humans that are playing pro golf, non-long drive people, that have a faster club head speed and faster ball speed than minimally. I mean, there were times where it felt like he was 15, 20 miles an hour higher than Scotty Shephler. Now, the problem with that is sometimes he hits it off the planet. as he did, I think what was the hole 16 last week,
Starting point is 00:38:31 which made it a tournament. Because the moment he pumps it in the water, Scotty's putting for Eagle, you're like, oh my God, is Scottie going to win this? Are they going to get to extra holes? Now, here's what Min Wu Lee does well. And he's, I find him pretty entertaining. The moment at the end of the tournament
Starting point is 00:38:49 when he pretended to do aim point on like a six inch putt was funny. Like that was good. his short game's pretty elite so it's like if you look at sawgrass when he falls apart it's because he gets
Starting point is 00:39:04 all over the place off the tea and he's in other fairways but in sawgrass you can't just pump it into another fairway this is not some resort style course
Starting point is 00:39:13 like you're in the trees and you're fucked you're gonna get bogeys I do think Augusta's a little like that like you can't just pump it all over the place you do have to be accurate
Starting point is 00:39:23 now his shirt short game and his ability to put, like, that's going to translate at the Masters. But to me, he's better off. If you tell me he's like leading after two rounds, I'd be like, he could implode. But if he just kind of flies under the radar and there's less pressure on him, I would like him more. So I don't think a top 20 bet is crazy. To me, top 10 feels a little extreme.
Starting point is 00:39:51 I would probably do both. I would do a top 20 bet and I would do a miss the cut bet. A mailbag question. If you were to enter into a four-man scramble and could assemble the best possible team of current golfers, who would your team be? You were on the team, so essentially, you only pick three other dudes.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Mine would be Rory, Scotty, and J.T. Rory for the driving, Scotty for the approaches, and JT, just a big shot maker. Yeah, I think you could go, if you just picked random PGA tour guys, like are there other PGA tour guys playing in the scramble? Because if they're not, I could just take random dudes that play in PJ tour events, and we would dominate. Now, if this was for like a million dollars and you were playing other elite players and you could have the pick of the litter, then it would matter.
Starting point is 00:40:39 I think you would go with Rory or Bryson. Again, I watch the YouTube golf. Bryson in these environments, him off the T is just like automatic draw. I don't think it would be crazy to take Bryson. What if you just went all live? You just went Bryson. You need an iron player, so you'd go like Torell Hatton or Joaquin Neiman. And for putting, you chose Cam Smith or Patrick Reed for short game.
Starting point is 00:41:08 I don't think you, I think you were underestimating if you just took any three guys in like the top. Obviously, some guys have different strengths, but just, you know, Jake Knapp off the teeth, bombs it. If you take like JJ Spawn, good iron player. You know, you just went around. Russell Henley, good putter. you would win every scramble you ever entered at any course. I might pick like entertaining guys. That's why I would pick like, I might go some live guys.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Like Bryson, Phil and Terrell Haddon. You know, the problem with Rory Scottie, JT would be probably fun. It might be kind of boring. I know you're high on Rory. I think he will undeniably win a major this year. even with how well he is playing, it's hard for me to think he can win Augusta. The last six majors have all been faders of the ball.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Every time Rory deviates from his stock 3.30-yard draw, he seems to get double-crossed. Augusta doesn't set up well for him going out of position missing fairways. It's a course of immense precision and missing in the correct spots. Something I think he's unable to do at a fade bias Augusta National,
Starting point is 00:42:21 given his draw bias driver. Do you think his play right now can supersede all this? Can he complete the career grand slam this season? Also, who are your sleeper picks to top 10 this year? Although it's hard to tell which live golfers are playing well and which one or not, Neiman seems to be an outlier. I would say, I kind of like Phil coming into Augusta. I think taking Phil to top 10 and 20 is not crazy.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Sometimes older guys at this course, he's really comfortable here, played well this week. I think he finished like third or fifth last week. Again, it's hard to, or a couple weeks ago at Liv, it's hard to know, but you just know, Phil's showing some signs of life, this is a good place. I think Phil, Patrick Reed, Sergio, Sergio's playing well. Patrick Reed just plays well. I think you're much more likely to bet on those guys who are comfortable at this tournament
Starting point is 00:43:15 than like Joaquin Neiman. As Joaquin Neiman ever had any success, I know everyone's kind of blown on this year. But I don't even think he's ever been good at a major. I mean, Joaquin Neiman, the last five years, here's what he's done at the Masters. T40, T-35, T-16, T-22. He's actually been pretty good the last couple years. Okay, don't hate Waukeen Neiman. He has not really had much major success. A lot of cuts, a lot of T-30s, T-30, T-47, T-53, T-58. Now, Homo was like that last year, and then he played well at the Masters, so you never know. I like guys that have had previous success here.
Starting point is 00:44:05 I do think between Sergio, Phil, and Patrick Reed, one of those three guys is going to finish in the top ten. I don't know which one, kind of like Phil. Question for the pod. We'll end on this. This is from Zach. If you had won the Masters, what would your champion dinner be? Side note. If you find yourself in Jersey, arguably some of the best golf in the country,
Starting point is 00:44:25 I'm a GM and a public golf course in North New Jersey, but can get you pretty much anywhere on in the state. I appreciate that. You know, it's weird. I love food, and I probably eat too much of it. I'm trying to work on, you know, lowering the caloric intake. I would not call myself, like, I would say, like, a foodie. I'll try anything, so I'm not like an anti-foody,
Starting point is 00:44:51 but I'm definitely not like an elitist when it comes to food. I like a nice steakhouse as much of the next guy. I can also eat Chick-fil-A or some hole-in-the-wall Mexican joint like five days a week. If Maria wasn't in my life, I would eat Chipotle bowls, I don't know, four times a week for dinner. So, you know, Scotty takes some shit for his menu because he goes with like sliders and barbecue beans and, You know, just more of a barbecue feel like a cookie on warm ice cream or I mean a warm cookie on on vanilla ice cream. I actually think the master's dinner is less about, you know, being like some French laundry experience. For those of you that don't know what that is, that's the Gavin Newson restaurant.
Starting point is 00:45:40 But the reason it was such a big moment, not because he broke the rules, but because that is like the most famous restaurant in the Napa area. and it's like, you know, $1,000 a person, supposed to just be elite food. But it is kind of foofy. Like when you see pictures, you know, it's just those things that's very expensive. You get tiny little plates, which probably taste incredible.
Starting point is 00:46:03 But I think the Masters is more like steak and potatoes and more telling stories in being with the guys. Obviously, there are a lot of people in that room. This is not like the 70s or the 80s, where guys are probably, getting blasted because a large percentage of the guys take it really seriously. And clearly if you had just won at the previous year like Scotty, like trying to win it again. A couple of the old guys potentially don't care and just there to have some cocktails.
Starting point is 00:46:31 But I do think it's less about the food experience. And I could be wrong. And more about the vibes and the bonding of the people and just telling stories about, I don't know, golf, the tournament, life. So I don't think I would overthink it. I would keep it pretty... I wouldn't veer far off. To me, some sort of salad. I think I've heard Scotty say you have to include some sort of fish.
Starting point is 00:47:02 Or kind of, if you're going to go red meat, you got to include either chicken, fish, something, you know, a little lighter for guys. I might just go give you a nice steak option, chicken or fish option, maybe, you know, with some pasta. a salad just some
Starting point is 00:47:18 I think it's hard to go wrong I'm a sucker for like crab cakes and calamari something like that with the appetizer and ice cream sunday or something like that
Starting point is 00:47:29 at the end I don't know Tiger's a big milkshake guy like I some people online make fun of you but I think some of these people
Starting point is 00:47:37 they try to think that they would go above and beyond I don't know if that'd be a huge hit like does anyone complain when they go to I don't know,
Starting point is 00:47:47 Fleming's or wherever your steakhouse is, what do you usually get there? steak, some mac and cheese or potato, asparagus, salad. I mean, you get the same thing most of the time. Every time you go, for most of us, the most expensive dinner that we attend is a steakhouse, right?
Starting point is 00:48:06 And every time I go to a steakhouse, give or take, I get the same thing. And I usually enjoy it. Yet, whatever the master's menu, comes out, which the guy that wins it has to pay for, it's like, God, he's just such a boring, obviously if you're just going like chicken tacos or something, that would be stupid.
Starting point is 00:48:26 But I think I would just go some greens, a potato-ish, something like mac and cheese, calomari crab cakes, because I like those, a steak, a chicken, or a fish, and an ice cream Sunday. And I think most people would be pretty happy. So that would be my decision over something like trying to act like I'm, you know, Emerald Agassi here. The Volume.
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