The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Gottlieb: Deep dive into Markelle Fultz's mental block; Tough time to be a Duke hater; LeBron's first trademark game as a Laker

Episode Date: November 16, 2018

Subscribe here to the All Ball with Doug Gottlieb Podcast https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/all-ball-with-doug-gottlieb/id1358843497?mt=2. All Ball with Doug Gottlieb is part of the Colin Cowherd Podcast Network. All Ball is an unfiltered podcast covering the biggest stories in college basketball and the NBA. Join Doug as he brings his unique perspective as an TV analyst and radio host. This week Gottlieb dives into Markelle Fultz's mental block, and discusses fixing a broken player with player performance guru Jake Rauschback. He also explains why it's a tough year to be a Duke hater, and LeBron's first trademark game for the Lakers. Follow Doug on twitter at @GottliebShow and go to theherdnow.com to find the latest content. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo, and every episode, we're cutting through the noise,

breaking down the biggest moments in sports and giving you the real story behind the headline. And we're going straight to the source, the athletes themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions in the moment, and the stuff nobody gets to hear. Listen to Sports Slice on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Sliced Life 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok.

Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smigel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter.

Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, guys? This is Clivert Taylor the Fourth. And on my podcast, The Cliverts Show, I'm bringing you conversations about all kinds of stuff. Like being an internet famous referee. We're in the middle of a game. This linebacker, this linebacker walks up to me. He goes, hey, ref, my mom wants you to wave at her.

What? Time out. Quarterback on office blue with 42. Hey, Wreck, my mama want you to weigh better. What? Hey, Miss Parker. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast point game, the playoffs. We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season. And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments. If we didn't talk ever again, I was harmed. you just understood.

That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that game seven, Mark keep coming until he's like, you know I love you, dog. You know, it's all love. This was just playoffs. This was just basketball.

So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, it's Doug Gottlieb and welcome in to this week's version of all ball. All basketball all the time. My boy, Jake Roshback, is going to join us upcoming in about 10 minutes or so. You can follow them on Twitter at MindRide Pro. We're going to have a day. deep dive discussion into Markell Foltz and his shooting issues.

I'll tell you a little bit about mine, what happened to me, what it actually feels like. I watch Markle Fultz, and I'm sad just because I think inside the exterior of a talented young athlete, that brain and the body are fighting and they're not working together. And that's why to this point, we haven't seen the talent that he had coming out of the University of Washington just spending one year there. And to people are like, well, you know, everybody should have known. and like, all right, all I can tell you is I had friends that conducted those workouts, those pre-draft workouts, and they all said that, you know, Lonzo Ball is a nice player,

but Markell Fultz was the best guard they had in. They had in. And obviously what happens is when you look at Utah, and you got a guy who has the type of success that they've had there. I mean, now, in addition to the day, The Jason Tatum trade looking like a bad trade, which I thought it was at the time. Then you look at Donovan Mitchell, who's an all-star caliber guard and only his second year, another guard that put Donovan Mitchell on the Philadelphia 76ers.

Now, I would tell you that Donovan Mitchell might not have become Donovan Mitchell had he been drafted by the 76ers. Some of it's about the opportunity you get because Gordon Hayward was gone. And because of all the other moving parts they had last year, he got to play earlier and had great confidence, play with that great confidence, a place for a coach that knows how to find mismatches for him. But I can tell you to a man, the people I've worked out were all like, Markle Volz is really good. Now, other people like Tatum better.

There were people who liked Donovan Mitchell equally, thought he was different. But to anyone who says, like, well, you know, there's Deerrin Fox and Lonzo Ball, Markle Fultz was seen as the better guard, the better guard. But it didn't happen. and now he has this kind of mental block. And it's a paralyzing feeling. It's one, and I hope he pulls out of it, but it's one where I can't even go back and watch my college games.

And I was a really good college player, but I had these severe bouts with some sort of performance anxiety shooting the basketball. It manifests itself mostly in the free throw line, but that's because I can control it except when you got fouled. And then, you know, I'd almost, never shoot threes or very reluctant threes. And then some days I'd just have it.

I'd come out. And I almost wish, like, my coach, I wish in hindsight, three things that happened. I wish one, I had an open dialogue with my coach where I said, hey, listen, tell me what shots I can take and miss and still stay in the game. Come to an agreement there, and I will only take those shots. Like in the NBA, they call it getting to your spots. If I got to show them where my spots were on the floor that I can make it every time. because the performance anxiety really was based upon

I didn't want to come out and I felt like if I missed I came out that was how my mind worked just how it worked even was a good shot and then ultimately it became a self-fulfilling prophecy where I would I would reluctantly shoot a shot knowing that if I missed I was going to come out but assuming I was going to miss and I would miss and so I'd come out anyway which is just the weirdest thing so I wish I had open dialogue I also wish I

In addition to that open dialogue I could if I was still battling it I could go to a coach or go to my coach at the start of a game like hey I don't have it today I don't have the anxiety today because there were times of which it wasn't there

and I felt great in summation of my own kind of shooting issues and there's other parts that come with it right like not all of it is performance anxiety some of it is just shooting wise you just don't evolve

and, you know, oftentimes when you're a freshman in college, I think college coaches have to really know your game and help develop your game, but also go back to your bread and butter. What are the shots that made us want to recruit you here? And when I played for John McLeod, he never really invested. I mean, I always shot going to my left off a pick and roll. I had to learn.

I can shoot going right, but I was really, I remember watching Sedale 3 play for the Lakers when I was in high school, back when the Lakers were down. And Sadale 3 always shot off the dribble going to his left. And I kind of like emulated that. And yet we ran, it was called, I think was he your two side or three side. I think it was called three sides. It was like a UCLA screen into a ball screen for me and Pat Garrity.

And I'm telling you the dude only ran it on the left side of the court to my right hand until finally like end of March last game I ever played for him in the regular season or before he played Syracuse's last game of season. and he finally ran it to my left-hand side. Those type of things. So I do think that some of it is when you're young, getting a coach that understands you, runs things for you.

It doesn't change when you get to the NBA. Find a guy's spots, get him into those spots. But if I was the Sixers, I would have, I'd probably put him in the G-League now and just go like, hey, do when you're open, you're going to shoot. And if you don't shoot when you're open, you're going to come sit. Because, and we'll talk with Jake Rochbach in a second about it, but it just feels like they're approaching this as if it's a physical, problem and I think the more you watch Markell Foltz you realize it's a mental problem.

All right, let's get into a couple of things hoop-wise. If you're watching college basketball, you may have seen Villanova just get lamb-baseded by Michigan. And to a certain extent, Michigan's gone through this at various times here recently with their success in the NCAA tournament. When you're successful in the NCAA tournament, you're going to lose one or two more guys than you thought you would to the NBA draft. For example, Dante, DeVincenzo goes from last year's team. If all things are equal, you knew you're going to lose Miles Bridges, you knew you're going to lose Jalen Brunson, but you lose Amari Spelman, kind of a, I don't know if you knew

you'd lose him after one year and Dante Devinchenzo. If either one of them return, especially if Dante returns, I remember he didn't really play the point last year and he's explosive as hell. I'm not doubting his talent. I'm surprised at how well and how quickly he's assimilated to the NBA early. But I just thought he would come back and run the team for a year and be the guy before he would go. If one of those two, or if they both come back, Nova's the top 10 team.

Otherwise, now you're replacing not only personnel, you're replacing culture. And that's really hard to do. It just is. As much as Colin Gillespie and Eric Pascal and Phil Booth had been there, that's just like three guys. Everyone else has kind of been watching this thing take place and it becomes like multiplicity, copy of a copy of a copy.

That doesn't mean that they're going to be sitting there shaving their tongues or talking about their peppy, but I just, it does not feel like this is a team or didn't feel coming into the season like this was a team that anyone had any idea how they would react,

including Villanova. We've seen him be blown out before. You know, you go back three years, ago when they won the national championship and they handed Oklahoma the worst loss in the history of the Final Four, they were blown out by that in that Oklahoma game, they just missed a ton of shots, just missed everything and Oklahoma hit a ton of shots. Whereas against Michigan, Michigan just looked physically and completely dominant in the game. Speaking of physically and completely dominant, are you enjoying watching Duke yet? I mean, Lawston is how well Cam Reddish

is shooting the basketball and how good a prospect he is. But man, is Zion fun to watch. I do think that the more we go on, that playing against good competition, let's see how he does wearing down that hot gym in Maui, but I also think that Duke will shoot the ball, as most teams do, really, really well in those high school rims. But there are so many of you out there, and I'm not one of them,

that are Duke haters that suddenly now are feeling like you got a rash because you can't believe you found yourself cheering for Duke, or at least all gaga-eyed over watching Zion play. Watching him defend, watching him get on run, watching him shoot, watching him and dunk. And you're like, man, I wish we had that guy. It's a weird feeling to watch somebody who you really can't wait to watch and then play for a team that you used to like to see lose. LeBron James looked amazing.

I mean, amazing, on Wednesday night. He drops, what was, 44 points, nearly has a triple double. He's shooting the highest percentage he's shot. in, oh, I see, averaging more points than he has since 2010 and playing fewer minutes than he has at any point in his career. And so somebody might say to me, I've listened to your previous All-Ball podcast and you were killing LeBron. No, I wasn't.

I was saying, I was waiting for a moment like this where he was just like, hey, guess what? I can go get 40. And he did. I think LeBron's shown improvement within the Lakers system. I think the Lakers are showing improvement. and the fact that it happened against the Portland Trailblazers, who don't have the same energy on the road,

and it's not going to be the same energy as the first game of the season, but to show the difference in the Lakers then and now, tangible, really, really tangible, trending in the right direction. Mark Kalfoldz is an amazing test subject. Here's a kid, number one pick, and they're not guarding him. He's in self-check.

and Drew Hanlon tried to work with him in the off-season, and it seems to be getting worse, not better, then he's got a double hitch on his free throat. Before I talk to Jake about anxiety in sports, let me tell you about Audible. Discover the easiest way to juggle binging on content you love while doing your favorite activities with Audible. Listening to Audible's unmatched selection of audiobooks,

original audio shows, news, comedy, and more allows users to experience new journeys without having to drop what they're doing. Any book can be heard on the go. Like John Grisham's new one, Reckoning or Elevation, you know, the new one by Stephen King. By becoming a member, users receive one free audiobook a month, exclusive sales, and 30% off regularly priced audiobooks.

Plus, your books are yours to keep. With Audible, you can go back and re-listen at any time, even if you cancel your membership. If that doesn't sound good enough, Audible is offering listeners a free audio book with a 30-day trial membership. Just go to audible.com slash all ball and browse the unmatched last. of audio programs. Download a title free and start listening. It's that easy.

Go to audible.com slash all ball or text all ball to 500, 500 to get started today. Let's take a deep dive into the Markle Foltz situation. If you watch the video of him shooting a free throw, it's not good. There's like a double pump there. And it looks like Charles Barkley's golf swing is probably the best. If you haven't seen the video, the probably best description of it. I want to bring in Jake Rosh back. Jake was an assistant coach in Israel last year.

He's been on the Temple staff previously. And, Jake, how would you describe exactly what you do outside of being a basketball coach? Well, Doug, thanks for having me on. Great chatting. What I do as I help unblock players of the deep, unconscious, energetic, habitual program or subconscious level of the mind or body. Oftentimes, guys, they kind of stuck based on past experience.

or injury situations. And my job, often times, is the option of last resort, going in and helping those guys get unblocked and then improving their games. Okay, so when you watch Markell and everybody's pointing to the free throws, but look, he's got a hitch when he shoots jump shots. He clearly lacks confidence. And if you shot, you know, I don't know if you saw this, shots outside of five feet, he's shooting 8% from the floor.

Eight. when you watch Markell, a guy who, we don't know how bad the injury was, but there was some sort of shoulder injury, some sort of impingement, but we don't think that's there anymore. I believe most of it is mental, but when you see it, what do you see? Well, based upon dealing with guys with similar situations in the past and kind of seeing their struggles, what I see not know, again, I don't know the end and out situation, Doug, but I know what the general public

nose and just kind of from my background, what I see is two elements. What I would bet is he picked up stuff going through the injury recovery process with his shoulder. Oftentimes guys go through injury recovery, and when they're healing, they'll guard injuries, they'll protect injuries. There's a lot of fear of injury with that stuff, and so when they get back on the court, especially with something so refined as a shooting motion, they're going to be hiccups and guarding, and what that does is it generates blocks in the unconscious mind. And if that stuff isn't resolved and basically cleared out and healed, then you're going to have situations where guys struggle.

The second piece of this is, you know, there's the injury piece. But once guys get back on the course, there's so much pressure on Fultz right now, you know, it feels like that every shot he takes the whole world is watching him. You know, from a performance standpoint, a muscle memory standpoint, standpoint, if you're already coming in and balanced, if you're shot, and then you have to add on this stuff, and you have airballs upon airballs and bat shots, that's going to trap other unconscious blocks. So you're dealing with a two-fold situation.

And really, in my opinion, probably needs to be dealt with at a deep, deep muscle memory level. There's a couple of things. I do think that one of the things that began was he tried changing his shot. before playing in the NBA. And this is one of the reasons that the Lakers, the Lakers wanted to change Lanzo's shot this past summer, not before he played in the NBA. They felt like let him play, let him figure it out.

We have more time after year one between year one to year two to fix it. Markell and his trainer, they tried to fix it before year one. And he had some sort of shoulder injury. I don't know what was caused by, what it was caused by. So you have changing the shot, which changes your muscle memory, some sort of injury, a dramatic lack of confidence,

and all of the pressure that comes with it. And now, like I saw that there's a quote today, Chris Broussard, who works with us at Fox, said, you know, that Jimmy Butler said he told somebody close to him, he's not going to coddle Mark El Fultz. He's got to play and play now. And I'm like, dude, what are you, you don't even, this is the biggest problem in basketball is there are guys who, and I didn't suffer from. exactly what Fultz is suffering from,

but there's some similar aspects to it, which is like, look, did I go to the gym and make shots? That's not a problem. Whether it was performance anxiety or whatever, all of a sudden got to where I didn't think I should shoot because I didn't believe it was going to go. It wasn't necessarily I didn't believe it was going to go in. I had a fear of being taken out of the game missing a shot.

The same reason that guys don't, you know, I could dunk really easily in college. And then my son asked me, you know, how many times you dunk in college? I said, one, said, why? You dunk all the time in warmups? Yeah, why not? I'm like, well, because I didn't want to miss.

Right? That's kind of why I didn't shoot. And then it becomes, you know, you miss, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. My thing is like Jimmy Butler, you're dealing with a mental health issue more than a physical health issue. And maybe a combination of the both. It's really best if you stay out of this one, especially before you even kind of play with the kid. All right. So take me through the process.

Let's say you're going to sit down with Markell Fultz. What's the process of fixing this? So, Doug, the way that I work, the way I structure my program or my work is I actually build a player development program, incorporating high-performance coaching, a lot of mindfulness, acupuncture-based techniques without the needles, Chinese medicine stuff, techniques. And then, you know, you actually get on the court and put it all together with skill development. So what I would do was actually sit down with him, work with him, extensively over. probably eight to ten week period, maybe longer, maybe shorter dependent upon how he responds. The way it will work is the way it worked effectively in the past regards to similar situations,

is you sit down off the court for a session two per week, and you actually identify the things in his past that really still bother him on an unconscious, energetic level. We're talking about the habitual patterning, the muscle memory level that basically take another million shots is not going to fix if you don't address this first. So by doing that off the court, you get in, you clear that out through different types of techniques, mindfulness, energy psychology, energy work, quite frankly. And then on the court, the second piece of that is you help him, you teach him techniques to say locked in so that when he is at the foul line and stuff does come up as it inevitably

will in terms of anxiety or pressure or whatever it might be, he's got go-to, go-to already honed techniques where he can go-to and lean on. to get back in his own, if you will. The third piece of this is, again, this is like a perfect world scenario, Doug, is you're able to coach him and remind him during practices and most importantly during games that when the bullets start flying, he's missed a couple of shots and had a couple bad turnovers, you remind him to go through the techniques and processes.

He would have already learned to basically stay in that high-performance state and get over these blocks he's been dealing with. So you look at it. How long, like, I, I understand you meet a couple times a week, but it feels like this is like, so do you think he can play through it and go through this type of mind-body training? Or do you think he needs to not be playing? You know, how would you, if, again, perfect scenario, let's just take Mark Hill Fultz.

What do you do? So he's going to have to play through it. I mean, this is the real world, right? I mean, you can't just hit him down and not play them. but again, with guys in similar situations from experience in the past, usually the guys that improved the most are during the season because the rubber is meeting the road. There's basically a level of focus they probably wouldn't otherwise have

if it wasn't in season. And so you deal with it on the fly. That's the best way to do it, Doug. Yeah, see, I thought that holding out of Summer League was a mistake, right? Because it becomes a bigger issue, and now all of a sudden when you do it, you have to, when, you know, you work with Drew Hanlon, and I think what they did,

and I haven't spoken to Drew about it in fairness to Drew, and he's very good at what he does as a skill developer, but, you know, fixing somebody's shot and taking thousands of shot, like that doesn't change what's going on in your brain. And that's the synapses are not firing as much, and I almost feel like they made it worse by not allowing him to work through the mental blocks while working through the physical blocks,

during the Summer League. And so now, a sudden, you're doing it with your NBA teammates, and the pressure gets ramped up and it only becomes worse. Can I give you a quick example? I think of things.

An example might help. People understand what we're talking about because obviously this is new. People are like, you know, a lot of people don't exactly understand what we're talking about sometimes. But take the guy who shoots a million shot, great shooter.

Example, Steph Curry. Take another guy who shoots a million shots who's not a good shooter. Well, the guy that shoots, doesn't shoot well, and he's taking the same amount of shot with probably the equivalent amount of ability. The stuff that I'm finding is the non-good shooter is he might have had a couple experiences in high school where he lost his state championship for his team because he missed free throws at the end of the game. We went 0 for 11 in college, and his coach got on him. Like, this stuff sticks with players if not dealt with. so that's really the rub in this whole situation.

Some athletes have it more than others, and some athletes really kind of just move through it and they're not affected at all. But when guys are affected by it, you know, you kind of see what happens in a worst case scenario. Yeah, it's honestly, it's paralyzing. It's paralyzing.

It's, this is going to, this is probably going to sound, like I think the, one, like there's all kinds of, terrible diseases, right? Like ALS is just, it's so heart-wrenching if you know anybody who's gone through it because their mind is still functioning perfectly, but their body quits on them, right? That's what, that Lou Gehrig's disease, your body quits on it. And no one who listens to this is going to get offended, but somebody's getting offended. I'm just using it as an analogy.

That's kind of what it's like as an athlete, where your mind is still functioning. You know how you're supposed to shoot the ball. But your body and your body and then the subconscious is misfiring. And so you're so locked up that you can't do what you've done your entire life, right? Like the example is people remember me as an awful free throw shooter in college. My entire life up until I played in college, I was the point guard who when the game was, we're up three, up two, late in the game. hold the ball, make him foul, you step up to the line, make two free throws. I went from that to, dude, we got to get him out of the game because he can't make free throws.

And my shot looked better. My strength was better. My wrists were better. My legs were better. Like all of that, but your body doesn't respond properly to what your brain used to be doing because something in the subconscious is misfiring, right? That's how, that's the way I would explain it. And you can also take the Nick Anderson scenario.

right, where like you missed the four free throws at the end of a, you know, in the championship game, I'm not sure when that was, but, you know, the rest of his career, he basically thanked after that. That's like an extreme scenario. And the piece you're talking about, the most important piece to understand is if these guys would have wanted to change it, like if it was a conscious thing, they would have already changed it, right? Because they would have had the tools to change it, but it's not a conscious thing.

It's an unconscious thing. So then, like you just said, you get real jammed up because when you, you, you get in situations, your programming, your performance programming, the way you operate on the court is not in alignment with success once you actually get there and stuff is kind of out of balance. Is he fixable? Of course. He is fixable. I mean, and I hate, honestly, there's so much fruit me around the situation. It's a lot, I'm sure it's a lot to take for him. But, you know, from my experience, he is most definitely 1,000% fixable.

It would take some time now. We take some work and dedication, and the most important thing with any player and any coaching, as coaches always know, is a guy as a player has to buy in. Has to be like, all right, man, let's do this thing, right? A thousand percent. But Doug, a thousand percent, he's fixable.

Do we get to a point, though, or is there a point of no return? That's what I'm wondering. Is there a point to which you're like, okay, now you're to the, Ricky and Kiel had to change positions. Nick Anderson was washed. Is there a point of no?

What's your greatest fixing story? Great question. So there might be two. I'll give you the first one. We have time in the second one. Great. There was a guy last year, and I'm,

there's a guy that played for our team last year. He was a longtime Israeli professional. Played in the league, played in the Super League, first division in Israel for 12 years. Had basically a similar situation. as Markle Folt said, but he started lifting weights in the middle of his career, and it totally threw off his shot.

Now, that's the outline, you know, obvious reason why, but what it came down to was he was super anxious and had a lot of fear around stuff in his life, and it manifested at the foul line. So basically he shot 35% from the foul line for, say, six or seven seasons. Last season, he was shooting. He started the season out shooting 36%. Right. We worked for eight weeks, really did zeroing in on his insecurity, his fear he felt stuff that off the court that was affecting him.

And guys in Israel, like everybody knows this player in Israel, he's there like he's a lot of cause. And by the time we were done eight weeks later, he had improved the three-throat percentage by 17%. And because he improved his free-thold percentage by 17%. He was no longer scared to get to the foul line. So that meant around the basket he was finishing more. he had more relaxation and confidence, meaning his still goal percentage went up 12% because basically he was really unblocked and just playing with a lot of confidence and flow. So that's like, that's a real similar situation.

And again, just like both in many people's eyes is not, some might say not fixable, same thing for this player in Israel. And he's doing just fine now. And Europe and now playing in Israel both. The second guy was actually a long-time NBA veteran. Playing the NBA for seven years. I was bouncing around from Iran and the Czech Republic in all different places. And it ended up landing in Israel on our team last year.

And so big knock on him throughout his career was he wasn't always locked in. He wasn't always aggressive. And most importantly, he wasn't consistent with his shooting and his scoring efficiency. This is Dayquint. This is Dayquan. last season, it's what, it was Dayquam Cook.

So if you watch Dequan Cook in the past, you know he has a ton of talent, but sometimes he doesn't always put it together.

Well, you know, again, going back to early that season, he was struggling, we were able to get in over 10 weeks, work with him extensively.

Again, this is on-port stuff, off-port stuff combined. This is like throwing everything at the guy to help him improve,

and then he ended up improving his three-point percentage by eight-perts. and then his points per minute, which was 0.52, so they got 0.52, and he ended up improving that to 0.72, and then he ended up leaving the Super League in that category. So, guys, you know, these are guys that are veterans that are much older than Foles that are 31, 32, that are, you know, at the downslope of their career, and they're able to actually

improve over the long term. Not a quick fix, not a short-term thing, but over the long-term and by the numbers. Jake Roushback, you can follow him on Twitter at Mind Right Pro, of course, also on Instagram as well. Man, that's great background stuff. I can't tell you how much I appreciate it. I look forward to talk with you in the near future and also seeing what happens with Markell and we'll get you back to break down if you see improvement or if he remains stagnant or if they stop playing him because it has gotten to the point where it's getting worse,

not getting better. Thanks so much for joining us, Jake. Thanks, Doug. I hope you enjoyed this edition of All Ball. Gave you a little college, gave you a lot of mind basketball stuff, and gave you some NBA. Tell a friend to download, subscribe, and rate.

Send me a question on social media, Facebook, Instagram, or Twitter. Instagram and Twitter, both at Gottlieb Show. Facebook, check out the Doug Gottlieb Show page. I'll answer it next week on All Ball. Last night, a blown call changed the game. This morning, the internet lost its mind, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where SportsSlice comes in.

I'm Timbo, and every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the biggest moments in sports and giving you the real story behind the headline. And we're going straight to the source, the athletes themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions in the moment, and the stuff nobody gets to hear. Listen to Sports Slice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slic Life 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel,

help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Rob. Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, guys? This is Clever Taylor the 4th. And on my podcast, The Cliverts Show, I'm bringing you conversations about all kinds of stuff. Like being an internet famous referee.

We're in the middle of a game. This linebacker, this guy, this linebacker walks up to me. He goes, hey, ref, my mom wants you to wave at her. What? Time out. Look, quarterback on office blue 42. Hey, rec, my mama want you to wave at her. What? Where's she at? Hey, Miss Parker. Listen to the Clippers show on the IHeart Radio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast point game, the playoffs. We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season. And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments. If we didn't talk ever again, I was funny.

You just understood. That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that game seven, Marquis come until he's like, you know, I love you, dog. You know, it's all love. This was just playoffs. This was just basketball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.