The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hoops Tonight - Celtics embarrass Warriors, Thunder beat Suns, Clippers-Wolves + NBA Power Rankings

Episode Date: March 5, 2024

Jason Timpf reacts to Jayson Tatum, Jaylen Brown, and the Boston Celtics’ 140-88 blowout win over Steph Curry and the Golden State Warriors. Jason explains how the Celtics have been so dominant to this point, and debates whether any team will be able to beat them in a seven-game series. Jason then reacts to the Los Angeles Clippers’ 89-88 win over the Minnesota Timberwolves as well as the Oklahoma City Thunder’s big win over the Phoenix Suns. Finally, Jason drops his weekly NBA Power Rankings. Can anyone knock the Celtics off the top spot? Timeline (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements): 04:00 - Introduction 05:45 - Celtics embarrass Warriors 17:03 - Thunder stifle Suns 33:29 - Clippers-Timberwolves rock fight 44:47 - NBA Power Rankings #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Happy Monday, everybody. Hope all of you guys had a great weekend. We have a jam-packed show for you today. We're going to be doing instant reactions to three games from over the weekend. The Golden State Warriors got just absolutely demolished by the Boston Celtics. Tried an interesting strategy off of the opening tip that we'll talk about. Then I'm going to be breaking down the Oklahoma City Thunder going into Phoenix last night and really just dealing a physical pain in the ass win to Phoenix,

exposing some specific issues that they've been dealing with most of the year. After that, the Los Angeles Clippers got revenge on the Minnesota Timberwolves by doing to them what they did to them the first time. So we're going to be breaking down those three games. And then after that, like we always do on Mondays, we'll have our latest edition of the power rankings. You guys know the Joe, before we get started, subscribe to our brand new YouTube channel.

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just kind of talk basketball with Yovan, get some injury updates, since he's obviously much closer to the team than I am. Wednesday and Thursday, we're actually going live at night on YouTube after the nationally televised games, but during the day we'll be doing like single instant reaction games and some mailbag stuff. So that's our schedule for the next few days. All right, let's talk some basketball.

So starting with Warriors Celtics. So the kind of the story out of the opening tip of this game was the Warriors putting Draymond Green on Jalen Brown. Now, there's a lot of criticism there because of the result, but I do understand the general thought process behind it. So just put yourself in the coach's shoes as they're trying to scout through this type of matchup, right? They're looking at it like this team has a ton of offensive skill and we're going to have a lot of issues all over the floor. We've got to come up with something to try to slow them down. And I think the general idea was well, if we have Draymond Green roaming in the paint, that gives us a much better chance to guard the other four guys.

Because those guys don't have to be as worried about getting blown by because Draymond's on the back line. It gives them the ability to be more aggressive at the point of attack. And specifically with Jalen Brown, he's had a tendency over the course of his career, specifically in big games and in big moments where sometimes like he just like he misses a couple shots and then he gets a little bit in his head. loses his confidence and then he can kind of withdraw from the game to a certain extent. And so the idea there is, is like, well, let's try to get in Jalen Brown's head by leaving him wide open and it'll give us a much better chance to guard elsewhere on the floor. Here's the problem. Jalen Brown's playing some of the best basketball of his career right now.

And when you take that type of strategy, which by the way, that type of strategy happens all over the NBA with just about every NBA team. you find a really good help defender that you put on a guy offensively that you're not particularly worried about and he roams around that's not unheard of the difference is Boston doesn't really have a good option to do that against that's really the only difference like their lineup is somewhat foolproof in the sense that there's not really an option for you to just straight up ignore everybody has to at the very least get a hard close out right and so here's the problem when you take that type of risk with the player of jayling

Brown's caliber, you have the potential to get burned. And boy, did they get burned. Jalen Brown got red hot as he blew the game open there in the middle of the first quarter. But I want to, obviously, Jalen Brown deserves a ton of credit for blowing the game open with a shooting like that, but I really want to draw attention to the defensive end of the floor because that's where I thought the Celtics won this particular game. And once again, it started with Jalen Brown. On the ball, on Steph Curry, physical ball pressure. I talked about this in our Celtics. video like two or three days ago. But Jalen Brown has just been on an absolute tear on the defensive end of the

floor. He is targeting the other team's best player and just putting all of his effort in energy into trying to slow that guy down. And he's had a ton of success on that end of the floor. But I want to draw past Jalen Brown to the rest of the team because this is an important part of guarding a team like Golden State because of their screening actions, really physical switching. Hands on when the switch comes, you get right back into the, you.

into the offensive player's body right away to make sure that constantly is feeling that contact and that fatigue, making everything difficult. Another guy I wanted to shout out on this front was Peyton Pritchard, who I thought from the minute he came into the game there in the middle of the first quarter, he had a really nice two-way game. He had 19 points in this game, but he was another guy that was bringing great ball pressure and just getting up underneath Golden State's guards all game long. From there, off of stops and turnovers, getting out in transition. This was a big time transition game for Boston. They scored 42 points in transition in this game. And you know, one of the things that I've talked a ton about on this on this show as of late,

I've been harping on Boston as a team that needs to bully their way into the paint more. And for the record, it's been working. They've, in their last four games, they're averaging 60 points in the paint per game. And that ranks third in the NBA over that span. That's been a really nice trend, possibly the most encouraging trend of the season that I've seen so far from Boston. But make no mistake. I never ever intended or wanted people to think that I don't want Boston shooting jump shots. They're a very good jump shooting team. It's more about balance and having a counter when the jump shots aren't falling. But they are a team that can straight up beat you making jump shots in games when there's really good rhythm and flow. The ball's popping around

and everybody feels good and involved in the offense, right? They took 58 jump shots in this game against Golden State. It was a heavy jump shooting game, but they got 84 points on those 58 jump shots. That's 1.45 points per shot. And in these last two massive blowout wins, they've been able to do both. They've been able to dominate the paint,

not so much against Golden State, but they've been able to dominate the paint as of late while also knocking down a bunch of jump shots efficiently. And those two things kind of tie into each other as well. When you're doing one, it makes the other easier and vice versa. And like, I put in my notes, it's great to be able to do both. That really is the key there. That's what makes Boston such an intriguing playoff threat is the simple fact that, like,

they can win from the perimeter, but they are starting to demonstrate that they can win on the interior. And like, it's just going to be about whether or not they can maintain that. And that isn't just some three to four game trend here in the middle of the season. but just an unbelievably impressive and dominant win for the Boston Celtics over the Golden State Wars. I'm sure it felt good for them too to get some revenge after they lost in Golden State earlier this year. On the Warriors front, I said this after the Denver win, and I mean this sincerely. Boston and Denver are problems for another day. You're not ready to beat Boston.

You're not ready to beat Denver. There's no question on that front. However, like, there's no guarantee that you're even going to run into Boston unless you get to the finals. obviously, right? And you're like getting to Denver, there are steps you got to get through before you get to that point. Like this is, you got to start with the goal that's right in front of you. Right now. And this is where I agree with some of the attitude coming out of the locker room, like Steph Curry is saying like, yeah, you know, they kicked our butts. But obviously like we like Steph had a really bad shooting night. That obviously plays a role into that sort of thing,

like long misses transition opportunities, right? But also Draymond's like a loss is a loss is a loss. We've got to move on. And he is right in the sense that like, Right now, I think the Warriors are still at the 10 seed. You're the 10 seed. Like, you just got to worry about, first you got to worry about getting up to number eight. Because if you get up to number eight, that's your capability to have two opportunities in the playing tournament. That way, if you lose the 7-8 game, you have another chance if you can win against the winner of the 9-10 matchup, right? So goal number one is you've got to climb out of that 10 spot.

And when you look at the schedule and you look at where they are at health-wise right now, and when you look at what Moses Moody has been able to do stepping into the Andrew Wiggins role, like you're in position to do that. And you just need to keep getting better and better and better. Now, it's March 4th. Let's say, for instance, that Minnesota and Oklahoma City maintain their stranglehold on the one two seed, which we'll see. Denver is 6 and 0 right now out of the break, but they were 5 and 1 out of the break last year.

And then they immediately dropped five of their next six games. So who knows if this is Denver like going to lock, down the stretch or if maybe they keep slipping, but if it's Oklahoma City and Minnesota in that one-two range, I think both of those teams are beatable. I think everybody is beatable, with exception of the top-tier teams, right? And I don't include Minnesota and Oklahoma City in that tier. So, like, chances are, if you do end up facing a team like Denver, there's a good chance that it may not be until May. So you got two months to sort all of this out. You've got two months to build your defensive habits up to another level. You've got two months to kind of establish a way

to generate offense outside of what Steph Curry can bring to the table. Those are bigger picture goals. Right now, you've got to take a game by game, win by win, and you've got to climb out of that 9-10 spot. Those are, that would be my way of trying to kind of like keeping your eye, keep your eye on the prize in light of a really upsetting, you know, destructive loss on the road in Boston. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential.

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Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast. or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, moving on to Thunder Suns. I watched this game last night. Super, super fun game to watch. Oklahoma City is just a royal pain in the ass to play against. They play so incredibly hard. I felt bad.

I shouldn't say felt bad. I know that KD. and Bradley Beale were just like, oh, man, these dudes are literally picking up full court. They're double teaming the second we cross half court. It was one of the most aggressive start-to-finish defensive schemes that you'll see in the regular season. And it's because Oklahoma City has the combination of a coach that can keep them organized enough to run these sorts of things properly. And two, the young athletes that have both the physical tools and the motor and energy level to maintain that over the course of a long basketball game. Most of the time, like Phoenix doesn't even run into these types of super aggressive coverages until the first.

fourth quarter when teams are just trying to get the ball out of Kevin Durant's hands or get the ball out of Devin Booker's hands. This was a start to finish. We are we are pressuring the ball. We are bringing double teams as soon as you cross half court. We are playing passing lanes. Even just like, you know, here's the thing. I've been, critical is the wrong word. I've talked a lot about how I don't necessarily believe in Oklahoma City as like a championship contender because they're small and because they're young. But I still feel that way. You did see again last night, of Nurkich, like, what do you have, 31 rebounds, just absolutely demolish them on the glass. And there are teams around the league that bring a combination of what Phoenix brings to the table

in terms of perimeter talent and interior presence, teams like Denver, even the clippers, like you're going to get Kauai and AvikizuBats on the interior while also having all the perimeter type of talent that a team like Phoenix brings to the table. Those are the teams that I worry about for a team like Oklahoma City. But even though they are perhaps, perhaps, perhaps maybe a touch too small and inexperienced to win the title, that doesn't mean that they aren't a physical and scrappy team. They are a super physical and scrappy team. It's one of the big reasons why in the long run,

I'm such a big believer in what this team can accomplish. Because if they do bring in a legitimate forward to the table that raises their physical profile, when they do go into this playoff run and get, let's say they win a first round series and then end up losing a really tough second round series or losing in the conference finals. Those are battle scars that build this team up to where in the future,

they can be a bigger and more experienced version of this crazy talented, crazy physical, crazy competitive Oklahoma City Thunder team. And that's what's going to take them to the promised land of hoisting the Larry O'Brien trophy. But there were a bunch of specific things that I wanted to dive into and to demonstrate just how physical and scrappy they are. First of all, physical switching. So this is, you know, just imagine like,

Phoenix runs a lot of like off ball screening actions to try to get Kevin Durant into advantage situations around like the elbow and post area, right? Like that's what makes Kevin Durant different from so many of these other stars around the league in the sense that like so many of the modern day stars are just operating at a dribble handoffs and ball screens. And Kevin Durant can do that too. That's obviously a big part of his game. But Kevin Durant will also like come off of some sort of like wide pin down or like a,

or like flare screen or something to try to get him into a position where you can catch with a triple threat, you know, 15 to 18 feet from the basket and then turn to face and try to go to work from there, right? One of the things the Thunder were doing in this game is like Lou Dorts on him and he's just hugging on him, like literally like holding him while he's like standing on the block waiting for that screen. And so then down comes the screen and there's a difference between passive switching and physical switching.

Passive switching is like what the Clippers did to LeBron James and his crazy comeback run the other night. here comes the screen you know Daniel Tice switches but he just like starts guarding LeBron from you know three four feet away and Kauai will just go away with the other guy right and so no one's there making LeBron feel uncomfortable

he's just mixing up off the dribble and getting to his spot and making something happen physical switching is like I'm holding on to KD I'm Lou Dort here comes a screen Jalen Williams just like Lou Dort literally passes him over to Jalen Williams like well physical handoff and Jalen Williams is grabbing it as he's coming off the other side of the screen and denying the catch.

And so as a result, they were creating these really tight passing windows because they're three-quartered front and denying KD in all of his spots. He already had to work super hard to fight Lou Dort up to the screen to where now he's fighting to try to create a passing angle. And then from there, off the ball, they're constantly digging down and jumping into passing lanes. Like whenever a team has a bunch of turnovers, we're so quick to focus on the team turning the ball over and being like they're being sloppy.

And don't get me wrong, they were. We're going to talk about that in a minute. But, like, give some credit to the defense. Like Oklahoma City forced Phoenix to lose their minds and create a bunch of really sloppy turnovers, right? The other thing, on the ball, there is a possession I clipped. You can find it on my Twitter feed of Shagelis Alexander, guarding KD. And on this possession, you can literally see, like, there's two different ways to reach in.

And, like, you know, there's like a lunging reach in, right? where I really get out of position to try to get down to get to the basketball. But I can also reach in while staying balanced. And Shea is uniquely equipped with these like crazy long arms to where he can defensive slide with a guy and not have to really lunge or get out of position, but he can still swipe down at the basketball. And there's this possession. It's a KD turnover.

Shea's on the ball on KD. Katie gets driving down to his left hand. Shea literally swipes down at the basketball like six or seven times. just from 25 feet from the basket down to five feet from the basket, just swiping and swiping and reaching and swiping. And then as soon as he gets downhill, there's a guy digging down from the corner and a guy coming up from the post,

and they're all digging down at the basketball. And so it ends up leading to a Kevin Durant turnover, but the point is, is like, it's hard. It's hard to take care of the basketball. I want a bunch of athletes with really long wingspans who have been, by the way, picking you up full court all damn night, double teaming you all night long, fighting you off of every single spot,

and you get a driving lane like this, and they're reaching in like crazy. And it's just really difficult to navigate that. I just wanted to give them some credit for that, because I didn't think, I didn't think these were just sloppy turnovers. Oklahoma City sped Phoenix up and caused them to make a lot of these mistakes. And then from there, jumping passing lanes, like, they just have so much straight line speed that, like, when a lane looks like it's open, you know, you'll see a hard double team come and there'll be on the weak side,

like a shooter in the corner and a shooter on the wing, and it'll be like Casson Wallace or something playing in between the two players. And what he'll do is he'll kind of play back and like kind of bait KD into thinking the wing is open and he's standing there. And here's the thing. If he throws the skip pass to the corner, even if he is lunging up, he can still recover to that because there's so much time. But if he throws the skip pass to the wing,

he just shoots into that gap and takes the back. basketball away. It's just, it is a layered attack of ball pressure. Physical on the ball, physical on screening actions, physical and passing lanes off the ball. And they were just, they caused all sorts of problems for Phoenix, which we'll get into a little bit deeper here in just a minute. Shegild's ball control was the next thing I wanted to hit on. There, you know, this was a classic example of, you know, and this is something that Shay has been doing forever. So I don't want to act like this is new. But this, I just wanted to dive specifically into Shea Guild, Shea's ball handling because, you know, we think of Shea as like a slow methodical player.

And don't get me wrong, he is. He's a very like change of pace and methodical type of on ball player. But this is a guy that is really whipping the basketball around in a really controlled way with advanced dribble combinations in traffic. Like he'll get into his high hesitation and he'll hit that hesitation move where it almost looks like he freezes in space for a second. But then he'll hit that four dribble and he'll get into your body. Now there's contact, right? He's got his shoulder into you and the defender's like right up on him. From there, he'll hit like a pullback dribble.

And then from there, instead of just like making a simple move, he'll hit like in and out, cross between the legs, back to the right. Or he'll like double between the legs and back to the left. Are these super advanced dribble combinations in traffic while there's contact going on? And so that to me is a big element of what allows him to maintain control of the basketball while he's making these complex counter moves. It's a ball handling thing. We think so much about change of pace.

We think so much about his strength. We think so much about his mid-range jump shooting and some of his footwork stuff that he has. But a big part of it that goes under the radar in a lot of these cases is his ball handling. There are a lot of players that can dribble when things are free and clear. But then as soon as they get into contact,

they lose control of the basketball. And Shay just has incredible control of the basketball in a physical environment. Lastly, down the roster shot making, everybody on this team can make plays off the bounce. Just the first half play, Chet Holmgren's bringing the ball up the floor. It's a transition cross match. He's got Royce O'Neill on him. They just spaced the floor and Chet just like hits a dribble combination, gets downhill,

bodies Royce O'Neill, and then pivots over his left shoulder and goes up and finish and screams, and I won in his face. And you're just like, it's like, okay, this is the third guy that you have to deal with. And he's just confidently attacking one of your best perimeter defenders that's punched my mic because I got too excited about it. But, uh, or, or you'll see like, we know what Shay Gildes Alexander and Jane Williams can do. But then like, I see Lou Dort in the right corner in the second half, um, uh, end up hitting Grayson Allen with a dribble combination. It's like between the legs,

crossover. And then he just whips like a crazy left to right crossover and literally like Grace and Allen almost falls over going to his right hand side. And then Dort goes along the baseline out. Grace had made a really nice defensive recovery on this. and got back into the plane blocked Ludorpe from behind as he missed a dunk. But I'm sitting there thinking like, this is your defensive-minded wing. This is your 3-and-D guy. And he legit has the ability to make plays off the bounce. He hit off the dribble jump shots in this game.

Like that's just another layer of the shot making. Josh Giddy, he can attack smaller defenders. He can work and pick and roll. Even bench guys. There was a play that the sons defended perfectly. And it led to a skip pass across the court to Kaysson Wallace in that right corner. And it was a really good closeout, I think from Aaron Gordon. If I remember correctly, it might have been Grayson Allen.

But he catches in the right corner, great closeout. And he ends up hitting an in and out side step jump shot in the right corner from three. Like a high level step back three attacking a close out in the right wing from your bench player, who happens to be the guy that you view as your three and D guy off the bench. Like it's just, it's layer after layer of insane amounts of offensive skill and all. All of them can guard. All of them can guard. It was a really impressive win, but like, this is where it gets really scary for the long run. Like I said, give these guys some battle scars in a couple of long playoff runs, give these guys a legitimate forward that can bang inside,

that can help them deal with some of their physical limitations. They're going to be a gigantic pain in the ass for a very long time in this league. On the sun's front, big thing that stands out to me, and this has been a theme throughout the season. when it comes down to the aggressive double teams of their stars, when they have all three of their stars out there, it's usually them with Grayson Allen and Yusuf Nurkich, right? From there, there's so much offensive skill on the floor that they can operate pretty well in the four on threes out of it, right?

They're like brief four on threes because none of their stars are great passers. Like they all, like if you catch KD on the right night, he can handle a double team really, really well. I thought against the Sacramento Kings like a week and a half ago, you had a really good game handling double teams, right? But then you watch them in other games and he really struggles with it. That's the thing. Like, you know, when you're talking about the best players in the league that are playmakers,

guys like Luca, Yokic, LeBron, right? The guys in that tier, like you want to make them a score, right? Like, your best bet is to like leave them on an island and hope they wear themselves out trying to score one-on-one. And by the way, they're still really good and they're going to do that really well. but that's probably your best strategy for those guys. When it comes to the best scores in the league, you want to test their playmaking ability.

You want to make them have to consistently make the best reads, right? And that's the thing. Like, this is the best way to guard the KDs and the Devin Bookers and the Bradley Beale type of guys in the world. You want to give them their biggest weakness, which is if you let them go one-on-one, they are professional one-on-one players. They are going to beat you.

If you let them go two-on-two in ball screens, they are professional two-on-two scores in ball screens. They will beat you. But if you put them in situations which targets their specific weaknesses, you can get inconsistent play out of them, which is what teams have figured out to do with Phoenix. Now, when one of their stars is out, it dips below that mandatory amount,

that minimum amount of offensive talent. Like, there was a long Sabin-leash in the second half of this game in Oklahoma City is just not guarding him. And so if I can double-team the ball, and there's a guy in the floor I don't have to guard. I'm only giving up a three on three on the weak side. That's not an advantage. And so like it really like I was on a radio station in Phoenix this morning for a radio hit.

And they were asking me specifically what I like whether or not it was like a coaching issue or what was going on last night. And I'm like sometimes this is like this is just what happens when you when you start to run out of players. right? And then at the same time, you need guys on the other end of the floor that can guard an Oklahoma City team that brings a ton of ball handling and scoring to the table. Right? And it just, it was just one of those things where, I don't know, I don't know, the turnovers, they have to be sharper, right? Kevin Ray, Bradley Beale, Yusuf Nurkich, there was a lot of like bad entry passes,

not protecting the basketball, sloppy skip passes. There was a lot of that that they just have to be better, right? but it's also not an easy job unless you have four guys on the floor that can capitalize on four on three situations quickly and efficiently. And as soon as one of their stars drops out of the lineup and ends up being an issue.

Now we did find out from Shamserania this morning that it looks like Kevin, or excuse me, Devin Booker is not going to be out more than maybe a week, week and a half. One last note on the Sons, when they went on their big run in the second half of the game to get back into it, they got back into it with their defense.

they were double teaming Shea Gilders Alexander, testing his playmaking ability, and they were getting out and transition off of it. And then they started making some threes. It reinvigorated their defense. They continued to pressure Shea with double teams and rotate out of it, and they got back into the game with it. And so, you know, and this is what I said on the radio this morning, they have to be like OKC.

They can't just be offensive skill guys. Because if they're just offensive skill guys, they're going to lose to offensive skill guys who also are scrappy. They need to be offensive skill guys who are scrappy. They need to be scrappy. They need to be a team that defends and is physical, flies around in rotation. They have to do what the Thunder do at a higher level, right? Because that's the case.

The case for a team like Phoenix is like, you know, the Thunder just play harder than everybody in the regular season. We get into the playoffs. We start playing hard. We're a scrappy team that fights on the perimeter. and we have Kevin Durant, Devin Booker, and Bradley Beal, which is a better set of shot creators than Jalen Williams and Shegildas Alexander and Chet Holmgren or however you want to sort that out with the Thunder.

Now, that remains to be seen if that will play out like that in the postseason, but that's the case for Phoenix. That's the path for Phoenix. They have to be the scrappy team. They have to be the team that fought back into the game against the thunder the way that they did. But that's what I said on the radio this morning. That's the case for Phoenix or the pathway to Phoenix making some sort of noise in the playoffs.

You have to be the scrappy team that is also offensively skilled. If you're just the offensive skill group, the Thunder are going to be every bit as good as you at that while also being a much better defensive team. That's what you have to be. Because the case is, who would you take in a playoff series, all other things equal? Would you take KD, Bradley Beald, Devin, Booker,

or Shegilds, Alexander, and Jalen Williams, right? And there's a case to be made that they're a little bit more versatile, they're a little bit more experienced, right? The Sun's guys. So you might pick them. But if the gap is just so wide in every other area of the game, in terms of their physicality and defense and their overall level of competition and fight, then the Thunder are going to win.

So that's a pathway for Phoenix. They have to embrace that same type of scrappy physical attitude that they literally rode to get back into that game. And so, I mean, there is a light at the end of the tunnel there. It's just going to have to require the work on that end of the floor. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque.

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Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, moving on to Wolves Clippers. So the wolves jump them early in the game. They went up like 23 to 7. And the Norman Powell just got red hot and like almost single-handedly brought them back into the game. And he's been like one of the best heat check guys in a league this year, especially from the three-point line.

And he hit some preposterous threes in this game, like a like a pivot over his left shoulder and a late clock. situation where he picked up his dribble and he just rose and fired. One of the heat check shots where he came off of a screen had very little space and rose and fired, like he just can get insanely hot in a short period of time put a bunch of points on the board. So they end up getting it back close again. And then from there, it was just an absolute knockdown, drag out fist fight the rest of the game. I don't think either team took more than like a five point lead the rest of the way. It was back and forth. It was physical. The refs have been doing a great job really around the league.

league lately of just letting teams play and letting the games get more physical. And down the stretch, the Clippers just played better rock fight offense. Paul George, to his credit, missed a lot of shots in this game, but he made some big ones, rescue shots. He hit a big three in the left corner. I think it was over Rudy Galberry. He had a big pull-up jump shot around the right elbow down the fourth quarter stretch. Both of those, one of them tied the game.

The other one gave them a two-point lead, if I remember correctly. Like, they were just monumentally important shots. Those rescue possessions are usually difference makers when you get into rock fights like this. And then James Harden, he missed everything, but just made a bunch of timely and key passes. There was a big possession late in the game where James Hardin was operating the offense at the kind of like top of the key extended off the right elbow. And Paul George and Kauai end up running this like kind of three-man screening action with Daniel Tice, where Paul George comes off of like a little screen and then turns around and sets a back. back screen for Kauai, and James Hardin just threw an absolutely perfect pass.

And I think originally the play was designed to probably get Kauai, a post-touch with an advantage on Jada McDaniels, as Jadaen McDaniels would be in trailing position. But there was just a little gap there when Jalen got caught for a second and Kat wasn't there in help. And James just hit him in stride right underneath the basket for a layup. And getting like layups, like easy layups in a knockdown, drag out fist fight, that's like finding. money on the ground. It was a massive help down the stretch in this game. And then Kawhi Leonard, just he brings the physical in position

to that specific environment, which he can ride to easy shots around the rim. Now, one of the things that encouraged me the most about this particular game, if you guys remember, when Minnesota came in and beat the Clippers and demolished them in Los Angeles, what did I say after the game? I was like, look, Minnesota can do this. Jaden McDaniels, Anthony Edwards, Rudy Gobert. they can strangle the life out of your offense.

But what is their weakness? Their weakness is they can fall apart offensively in the half court. The clippers have excellent defensive personnel. And so what I said after that game was, you got to drag them down into the mud with you. And if you drag them down into the mud with you, you'll be better at it than they are. Because you have Kauai Leonard and you have Paul George

and you have Terence Mann and you have all these guys that can guard. you just need to drag them down into the mud with you. And that's what they were able to do into this game. And essentially, you know, the wolves can have similar issues to a lot of teams around the league when they face switching defenses. When you face switching defenses, the baked-in coverages that give you driving lanes kind of cease to exist. And in this game in particular, they were never worried about Gobert catching on the role. And so even when they were running drop coverage against Gobert, they weren't getting a ton of really. really great. The wolves weren't getting very, very great looks. They weren't getting good looks out of it.

But in that half-court setting, when you start switching, it challenges your decision-making process of your ball handlers, right? So Anthony Edwards comes off of a ball screen. He ends up getting Norman Powell on a switch. He's got Mike Conley in the corner. There's 15 seconds on the shot clock. It's clutch time. And Anthony Edwards has a tendency. kind of like Jason Tatum to settle for really difficult pull-up jump shots instead of inflicting his physicality on the game trying to get downhill and trying to make something happen. And there's a big possession late in this game. He gets Norman Powell on a switch and he just takes a really difficult step back three with 14 seconds on the shot clock.

That's how you can bait Minnesota into their worst tendencies. Switch, dig down, they'll settle for tough jump shots. They won't make good driving kickplays. They can fall apart offensively. And so the Clippers did a good job in this game of dragging Minnesota down into the mud and playing them into their worst tendencies. Now, on the Wolf's Front, as I just said, late game execution has been an issue for them all damn season. As a matter of fact, they are now down to 21st in clutch offense, a 105 offensive rating in clutch time.

That is like atrociously bad. And one of the things that was really bothering me about their approach down the stretch of this game, they still found some baskets. Like there was a late clock possession where they shut down the first action and then Conley ran a late pick and roll with Gobert. And he just threw a ridiculously good skip pass to Cat in the right corner who ripped through baseline and got a dunk. There was a play where Rudy Gober got an offensive rebound.

And Jade McDaniels cut out of the corner and he dropped it off to him and he got a dunk. Like they were able to manufacture some points just based on their incredible gifts that they have. but I absolutely hated their offensive process down the stretch of this game. And one of the main reasons why was there was an action that was working. They got two easy baskets for Carl Towns in actual sets. There's a horn set where you had Conley at the top of the key, and you had Carl Towns on the, you had Carl Towns on the, I believe, the left elbow, and Rudy Gobert on the right elbow.

And what they did is they would just have Carl Towns come up and set a ball screen for Mike Conley, and then as soon as he set the ball screen for Mike Conley coming off to that left side, he would come off a flare screen from Gobert. Now, because of the flare screen for Gobert, remember, like we were talking about earlier, the Clippers were switching everything, but not with Daniel Tice. They were running a drop with Daniel Tice. And so as Kat would come off with that flare screen, Tice is dropping back, and Kat is able to catch and quickly rip through to the right. It's a baked-in driving lane because of the coverage. They're chasing. Daniel Tice is dropping.

Carl Towns can catch off that flare screen and rip through right and go. They got two easy layups in crunch time off of this play. And after they did it the second time, I'm like, oh, shoot, that's going to work. There's three and a half minutes left here. They need to run that again. They did not run it again a single time the rest of the game. They ran different set actions, both to get Anthony Edwards into ball screens. one of them was a double ball screen out of horns where Anthony Edwards came off and got a wide open pull-up

three that he missed. And then another one was a play that they were able to just drop back on. And then he had to swing the ball. And that was what ended up in the Mike Conley-Gaer ball screen on the left wing that led to the dunk for Kat out of the right corner. But that same set that ball screen into the flare screen for Kat that got him the wide open layups on Daniel Tice barreling downhill and he just couldn't stop Kat coming at him. They never went back to it. They never went back to it, and it was the one thing, the only thing that they were actually able to run and execute easily

for an easy shot at the end of the game. And this goes back to what I said all season long. Will they be diligent enough? Just like I say with Boston, will they be diligent enough to get the right shots at the end of a game? Because again, it's like the Anthony Edwards pull-up three. Anthony Edwards shoots 35% on pull-up threes. The ball screen one.

Double screen comes off. He's wide open. He shoots 35% on it. That's, you know, what, one point, I want to say that's like 1.05, 1.05 points per shot. So that's a 105 offensive rate. That's not bad, right?

For a pull-up jump shot, anything over a point is good. Right? So, like, on the surface, it looks good. The problem is, is the statistics, the overall value of a shot means nothing to the individual possession. The individual possession comes entirely down to field goal percentage. And in that individual possession in crunch time, he's a 35% shooter.

So you're running a set action that's going to fail two out of three times. See the point? Like in crunch time, it's not about getting a shot. It's about getting the very best shot. I talked about this a lot in the Denver, L.A. game. It's like Rui Hachamura, pull up 15 foot or up. off of a weak side action. Ball gets reversed, where he runs a ball screen.

I don't hate that shot. Over the course of 48 minutes, if he takes that in the middle of the second quarter, you're like, that's a good shot for us. Anthony Edwards, pull up three coming off of a ball screen. That's a good shot for us in the middle of the second quarter. But in crunch time, it's not the best shot. For the Lakers in that possession, I've talked about,

it was a floor spacing thing. It should have been Austin Reeves on the wing. It should have been an Austin Reeves ball screen, which is a higher percentage play. If they were more diligent about getting the best shot, the ball would never have ended up in Rui's hands on that possession. Denver, on the other hand, gets the very best shot that they can possibly get on that possession

every single time in crunch time. That is how they win. And that's the thing. It's like with that Minnesota offense down the stretch, it's like they ran some actions. They ran that double screen for aunt. They ran this other one. one out of horns where it kind of led to like a double wide pin down for Aunt to come off into a ball screen.

But in those situations, they're dropping back and they're trying to bait Ant into pull up jump shots. That's not the best shot that they can get in that situation. Cat was the one with the advantage. If they ran double screening actions with Kat and Gobert, they could get Kat going downhill against a drop coverage big, which was Daniel Tice getting into the paint. Will they be diligent enough in the postseason to get the very best shot? I don't know. That is my major concern with this particular offense.

And again, they have lost countless games as of late with poor crunch time offense. And again, a 105 offensive rating for the entire season. And like, it's not a big picture issue. Like, Ants Young, this is really typical for teams led by a young superstar. But in the long run, that's what he has to address. In the long run, they, like, if it's, It's going to be led by a primary ball handler like a ball handler like ant. It's the half-court execution piece that stands between where he is now

and the true greatness of the top-tier superstars around the league. All right, moving on to our power rankings. So we had two teams drop out from last week, the Pacers and the Mavs, who both had pretty disastrous weeks. We have two new teams in the list this week, starting with number 10, the Orlando Magic. They've won six of their last seven games playing some elite defense in that stretch. They're 5-0 in that seven-game span when Palo Bunkero plays.

He's averaging 24 points, 7 rebounds, and 5 assists on 52% from the field and 42% from 3. I'll be a little bit of an easier stretch of their schedule, but a nice little run from the magic. Number nine, the Miami Heat, they are 10 and 3 in their last 13 games. That is the second best record in the league in that span just behind Boston. They have the second best defense in the league over that span. And then Jimmy Butler is starting to look like playoffs. Jimmy again. Since he came back from his injury on January 15th, he's averaging 23 points, six rebounds and five assists. Check this. Fifty-seven percent from the field and 56 percent from three.

So Jimmy Butler peaking at the right time of the heat, starting to gain some steam. Number eight, the Cleveland Cavaliers are starting to slip a little bit. They're just four and five in their last nine games. They needed a wild, all-time great hot streak for Max Drews, hitting five consecutive threes down the stretch against Dallas to win one of those games. otherwise they'd be three and six. It's their defense that's been slipping, ironically, over that span. They're 18th in the NBA in defensive rating in their last nine games. Number seven, the New York Knicks.

After Jalen Brunson went down in pain coming off of that wide pin down action against the Cavs, it was like a low point for the season for Knicks fans, right? Like you obviously Jalen Brunson goes down in the game. You're already down your entire front court. It's a big game, an important game against the calves that you feel like is winnable. it looks terrible, right? But then you end up beating the calves anyway. Just bully them on the glass,

just like they did in the postseason. And Dante DiMencenzo had a big scoring night. Also, Boyan-Begonovic, a guy who can scale up his offense when needed, stepped in and I think he poured in 20 points, if I remember correctly. And then after the game, you get great news. Jalen Brunson, just a knee contusion.

So it sounds like he just bumped knees, didn't twist his knee. That's great news. That means Brunson should be coming back. And again, OGN and Obie, I believe, just ramped up his basketball-related activities. So the help is on the way. We should get a better feel for the Knicks here in the next couple of weeks.

Number six, the Minnesota Timberwolves, two more clutch losses to the Kings and the Clippers this week. As we mentioned earlier in our wolves breakdown, a 105 offensive rating in the clutch this season, which ranks 21st in the NBA. That's going to be the biggest question for them when we get to the postseason. Will they ever be able to diligently seek out the best possible shot in the slowdown half-court environment at the end of games? Number five, the L.A. Clippers. Two in one week. They did lose to the Lakers and that crazy LeBron James comeback. But again, like I said, after that game, sometimes LeBron just does LeBron stuff and you lose.

But they did take a big step forward against Minnesota on the defensive end of the floor. Their defense has been what slipped a lot during this kind of mediocre stretch here in the last two, three weeks. That game against Minnesota. They got down into the mud and they slowed Minnesota down and they won with their defense, which I thought was super encouraging. Number four, the Oklahoma City Thunder. It took a bad loss to the Spurs where they really struggled with Victor Women Yama, but they did bounce back with a really impressive win against the Suns last night. You know, I'm having a hard time with this team because like the stuff with their size and physicality and their lack of experience, or their size, I should say, not their physicality.

They're very physical team. The stuff with their size and their experience is just overarching basketball philosophies that I have and I truly believe in. and it still gives me a ton of reticence. But when I look at their combination of shot creation down the roster, the incredible physical brand of basketball that they play, the competition and the nastiness of this group, I think they're wired right. Like I love their basketball character.

I think they're super well coached. I'm having a really hard time with the thunder because I've got this like voice in the back of my head, which is like, take them more seriously, take them more seriously, take them more seriously. So we'll see, I've reserved the right to change my mind about the thunder boom when we get to the beginning of the postseason. But right now, I just still lean back on my overarching basketball beliefs involving their lack of size and experience.

Number three, the Milwaukee Bucks, a three and a week, albeit against an easy stretch of their schedule, 15 games of Doc Rivers, 109.6 defensive rating, which ranks fifth in the NBA over that span. Offense is still struggling a little bit, although it's been way better as of late, but they're at a 115 offensive rating since Doc took over. They can get that offensive rating back up to 120 while maintaining this level of defense. We have to move Milwaukee back into that top tier of contenders because everything we had talked about with them was based around their defense having severe limitations and they've just been defending really well now for a stretch of the season, which really amounts to like what,

like about a fifth of the season. That's not a non-existent sample size. But a lot of tests on the horizon, Milwaukee's next five games against the Clippers at home, but then a road trip against the Warriors, the Lakers, the Clippers, and the Kings. That's a tough stretch. A lot of really high-powered offenses in that span. We're going to find out, and guard play too. Clippers, obviously, with James Hardin, the Warriors with Steph Curry, the Lakers with

DeAngel Russell and Austin Reeves, and then even going into Malik Munk and Dierre and Fox, although Deer and Fox missed their last game in Malik Munk actually carried them to a win against the wolves. But that stretch is going to put a big strain on their perimeter. defense. We're going to learn a lot about the Bucks defense during that stretch. Number two, the Denver Nuggets, six in O now out of the All-Star break. This time last year, this was where they let their foot off the gas. They were five and one out of the break, and then they promptly lost five of their next six games. So I'm really curious to see if they can keep their foot on

the gas at this point and maintain big matchup with Boston this week that we'll be going live for. I think it's on Thursday night, so we'll be live on YouTube after the final buzzer of that game. But Denver, they look like the best version of themselves that they've ever been as of late. And I'm really, really intrigued. Because like, you know, we talk about the checking boxes for championship contention. And like one of the big ones is like ramping up as you get into the postseason. It was a one that it was one that Denver missed last year. And then they still dominated. It just makes me all the more confident in what Denver's capable of. I still think they're the best team in the league. Number one in our power rankings for regular season results.

the Boston Celtics. Another undefeated week. They're on an 11-game winning streak now, and one of the big things, as I've been harping on all season, needed them to be more aggressive in the paint. They are averaging 60 points in the paint per game in their last four games,

which is the third most in the NBA over that span. All right, guys, that's it for our power rankings. That's it for our show today. As always, I appreciate you guys. We'll be back tomorrow with Yovon. I will see you guys then. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite.

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