The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hoops Tonight - Jaime Jaquez Jr. on Miami Heat breakout, playing LeBron & Team USA, Kobe influence

Episode Date: July 24, 2024

Jason Timpf reacts to LeBron James, Steph Curry, and Team USA's 92-88 win over Germany in their exhibition ahead of the Olympic Games in Paris. Jason discusses LeBron's dominant 4th quarter, in which he scored the final 11 points of the game for Team USA, and why the American team has found themselves in closer games than expected, including Saturday's unexpected thriller vs. South Sudan. Later, Jason breaks down who he thinks would win between LeBron and Anthony Davis' 2020 Lakers vs. Jayson Tatum's 2024 Boston Celtics. Timeline: 4:30 - USA Select Team 6:30 - Jaime vs. LeBron 9:00 - Getting drafted by Heat 11:00 - Defending in NBA vs. college 12:45 - Why Erik Spoelstra is NBA's best coach 15:00 - How Kobe influenced Jaime's game 16:15- What NBA training is like? 23:00 - Biggest area for improvement 26:15 - Was Heat's offense difficult to learn? 28:00 - Jaime in Summer League (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #Herd   Follow Jason Timpf on social: https://twitter.com/_JasonLT https://www.instagram.com/jtimpf15/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We have a very special guest for you guys today. Jaime Hakez Jr. forward for the Miami Heat. Also on the USA Select team, something I'm very excited to talk about today. But before we get into that, we're taping here at the MBPA Brotherhood Delhi, presented by Chase Freedom, in front of an incredible crowd of both Chase Freedom customers as well as fans, some of whom you've had the opportunity to meet already. So before we even dive into the episode, can we take a moment to talk about how cool this is? What does this mean to you? And what has this experience been like so far?

It's been a great experience, a chance to connect with fans, everybody who loves basketball, always knows that Summer League is a place to be. Las Vegas, this is, I think, a mini mecca of basketball when you think of, you know, how many people come and play, not just in the NBA, but AAU tournaments around, you know, teams around the country always come to Vegas to play. So this is a mini mecca and it's great to be here. Yeah, it's cool. You're walking around the casinos and you see all the kids run into their camp games and stuff like that. It's literally just a basketball event where everybody comes around the country. So I want to start with the USA Select team. So I think this is a particularly, a particularly, a particularly, a particular. amazing honor because it's getting selected to the USA Select team is not just about your talent.

What those guys are saying, the guys who are the decision makers for Team USA are saying, you can help make the main team better. It is a payment of respect to you being a winning basketball player. That's why I think it matters so much. Did you expect to be invited? Was this like a goal of yours that you achieved or were you surprised when you heard about it? I would say I was pretty shocked when I got the news. My agent had called me and let me know that I had been selected to participate. I was blown away.

I didn't think that was going to have it. It wasn't like a goal of mine or something that I was thinking about. But, you know, when you get honored like that, you have to take advantage and jump at the opportunity. So that's what I did. And like, honestly, like if someone asked me to explain Jaime Hawke's game in like 10 seconds, it would just be a really good

basketball player, just well-rounded, does everything well. That's the kind of guy. that helps push people and make other people better. That's why they wanted you there. That's why they wanted you to compete against the best players in the world. I thought it was such a cool honor. Tell us more about the process. Was there like a ton of scheme implementation at first?

Like, were they trying to just inundate you with a ton of sets and defensive coverages? Or was it more just kind of they trusted you guys to go play basketball and you just competed against each other for a few days? I would say that, you know, the first couple of days was a lot about putting in offense and defense. and a lot of what the Olympic team would see during their competition. So we got a bunch of plays put in for the very first day so that we go execute the next day. A lot of that and a lot of defensive principles.

But at the end of the day, they just told us to go out there and who play our game and really push those guys and give them a challenge because that's what they're going to face. Yeah, for sure. Was there a particular player on the select team that you matched up against and competed against? and then you left that experience, like, feeling more respect for that player.

Like a player you were impressed by. I mean, the guy that I was probably matched up the most with was probably LeBron. You know, I already have incredible respect for what he's been able to do, the longevity with he was able to play with. I mean, obviously still playing. But just how hard he goes. Even Coach Bo was telling me that this guy, you know, still wakes up at 6 a.m. in the morning before everybody else and gets his lifting and the way he prepares for practices.

is like he's playing a game. So you get to see that. And those are things that I want to take and implement into my routines and my lifestyle. And just being able to see that was incredible. Yeah, I saw a quote from KD the other day talking about how he just the amount of energy LeBron brings every day,

how it's like contagious. And a basketball season is a grind. It's hard to bring it every day. So when you have a guy that brings that energy, it just kind of lifts everybody up. And then you get a little bit more out of every practice. and it just makes it better. Obviously, the select team, that whole process includes the famous scrimmage against the actual

national team. And this like goes all the way back to 1992 and they actually beat the dream team, right? And so this is kind of a famous game for basketball players. Like, where did that stack up for you with your other core memories as a basketball player? Like, you played in that famous game. Like, what was that experience like? It was absolutely incredible. I use that word a lot, but that's really the only word I have to describe it.

I would say, you know, you got guys, LeBron, Steph, KD, you know, Kauai, you know, some of the younger guys as well, like Tyrese and Ant, you know, this collective together as a team, it's like the NBA is in a transitional period. You got guys like, you know, LeBron, Steph, KD on their, you know, who knows how many years they got left and, you know, they're on the floor together at the same time. and you never know when that's ever going to happen again. So just to be able to be in that position, experience that was amazing.

Yeah, a special shout out to Steph K.D. and LeBron for like still being this good as the younger generation is coming up because it kind of makes for this cool experience. Like I was at the game on Wednesday and like seeing the bench unit come in and bring all of their youthful energy, but then also watching the starters get off the way that they did. It's such a cool basketball team because it's like two completely different generations playing together.

Let's get into your NBA. career. So before we get into some of the specifics, did you actually have like pretty good intel that you were going to end up in Miami or was that a surprise to you? I didn't have intel, but I had faith that I was going to land there. I didn't know for sure. But I don't know. After one number 18 was called to pick, I just had a feeling that my name was going to be called. That's awesome. You obviously had a very successful first NBA season. You played over 2,000 minutes for a playoff team, the heat were 2.2 points per 100 possessions better with you on the floor versus when you were off, according to cleaning the glass. You had 920 point games. So to put it simply, you were a

good rotation player for a good team right away as a rookie, which is super rare in the NBA. Did you have any goals going into that season that you lived up to? Or is there anything that, like, did you have any other specific goals for next season, like a next step you want to get to in your second campaign? I was having this conversation. conversation actually the other day about goals and mindset and, you know, expectations. And one of the things that I've learned is that, you know, I go in to have no expectations and just be ready for my opportunity. So I went into my rookie season, you know, not really knowing what was going to happen. The NBA season is so crazy, so many ups and downs. You know, guys get hurt. And then, you know, it's an opportunity for me to step in and be able to play my game. And then, so that's kind of what happened. And then, you know, this next year, obviously. obviously, you know, everyone's pretty much healthy. So, you know, my job is just to be prepared as I can, you know, for whatever opportunity calls and just be ready to play my game and go out there and help win games. That's actually a really interesting point because every season

has a different roster, a different health based on, you know, how things go over the 82 games. So your role could shift from year to year. And so, yeah, like, you can't let your personal goals get in the way of that. You have to just be ready for whatever's next. That's kind of what it is. you know, you're just ready for whatever comes, you know, one day, you know, you're asked to, you know, handle the ball and play, play the point guard the next day. You're, you're asked to, you know, guard the best player. So I just try to be ready for anything at all the time. I actually have a quick follow up on that. How much harder was defending at the NBA level compared to the Pact 12 level? Were you like blown away by the speed? Like, was it a tough transition?

Yeah, I think, well, when you talk about college basketball, everything is so condensed and packed in the paint. whereas you go in the NBA and there's three seconds defensive in the key. So, you know, there's not anyone there and it's a little bit wider of a court. The spacing is just much bigger. So there's a lot more room. So defensively,

it definitely makes it a lot more of a challenge because, you know, in college you got guys helping. You know, you get beat. There's a guy helping on the baseline for you. And, you know, that's not always the case in the NBA. You know, you try to, but it's just a lot harder. Yeah, you like containing in space, it feels like is one of the most important things you have to be able to do now. And like we even saw with the Celtics and the finals, it's like when you can drive and

kick and get the defense and rotation, it just makes everything so much easier. And so being able to contain the ball is so important. So obviously, every good basketball player has like a healthy amount of respect for the Miami. Their organization is famous for good reason. They're a championship organization. Obviously, like, you've been a fan, I would assume, of Spoh and of Jimmy and Bam from afar. But like, you were in the trenches with those guys this year. What was that like?

Man, it was a great experience. There was no other people I'd rather be in the trenches with than those guys. You know, Spos, one guy that, you know, talk about bringing it every day. That guy brings it every single day to practice. You know, Jimmy and Bam, the same way. You know, it was just a, it was just perfect storm for me to be able to go in and learn from those guys right away. And I was just really blessed to have that opportunity. I actually think Eric Spulster is the best coach in the NBA.

I would agree. And he's kind of a psycho competitor. How does that, like, personality mesh in with the locker? Does it almost, like, feel like there's just another player in there because he's just as amped up as you guys are? Oh, definitely. I mean, that guy is always, his mind is always racing, thinking about basketball plays and what he can do to, you know, help our team get better.

You know, I was telling, they just asked me a question, you know, one of the funniest moments or craziest moments. I remember Coach Spoh was lifting in the weight room, like he always does in the mornings. and I walk in and he's listening to, you know, Zig Ziglar, I was born to win. I don't know if anybody knows what Zig Ziglar is. Do you know what that is? I don't. I neither did I. But I walked in and I was like, what is going on? I was born to win. And, you know, it was like something that was like almost hypnotizing him. And, you know,

I was listening to it while I was working out. It was, it was an interesting experience for sure. So Zig Zig Ziglar, everybody. And he was a, he was a guard, I want to say, at the mid-major level, wasn't he, if I remember correctly, like, he played in college. So, like, I'm sure he's just wired. Like, most people that come up through that mid-major level, too, where they just have a chip on their shoulder and they're always super, super competitive. He came up through the film room. So, like, that dude is grinded for everything that he's had. So it just fits so nicely with your guys' identity. I would agree. I would completely agree. He brings it every day. You know, he always has that chip on his shoulder. That's kind of our identity as the Miami Heat and part of our culture.

So I want to dive into your game for a little bit. you were an excellent post player right away this year. You averaged 1.26 points per possession, including passes, according to Synergy. Out of 63 players in the NBA last year that ran at least 75 post-up, you ranked post-ups, you ranked third. Okay, so you were one of the very best post players.

You were one of the best post players in the NBA last year. You personally, on your own shot attempts out of the post, shot 50%. Like, what, it really looked like it clicked for you. back and watched your film. It looked like it clicked for you that junior year at UCLA was the year where you really started to develop that post game. What drove you did to develop your low post game? I would say watching Kobe Bryant working from the elbows, work from the post, you know, mid post, low post, all of that. So he was one guy I really looked up to. DeMartha Rosen's another guy.

You know, the face-up game, the pivots, everything, the fakes. So those are guys I really looked up to. And, you know, when I was a kid, I would go to the park all the time and just, you know, work on my game, just me versus nobody. And just try to be as creative as I could be, you know, thinking of moves and how I could score the basketball. Yeah, one of the specific things you do really well, most basketball players, when they go into a drop step, have to pick up their dribble. Like, so they'll spin towards the baseline and they'll pick up their dribble. And so if they don't get a decent look, they're in trouble. They're, like, trapped down there. And one of the things you do is you keep your dribble alive as you go into that half spin, like as you drop step back and forth.

And so you kind of do like almost like a post up from the three point line sometimes or you're just kind of spinning and spinning until you get into the lane. That's like a little piece of like footwork and and just, you know, coordination that I know you worked insanely hard on behind the scene. So like what is your skill training regimen like? Like what in the off season, do you have like a super regimented day by day kind of approach? Do you have like, oh, this day I work on post work? Like, what is the process of making yourself the best possible basketball player you can be? What does that look like? Well, I would say for, you know, specifically post-ups, I think the only way you really get good or great at that is by going against somebody and having someone guard you in those areas.

So that's something that I really like. I like going against live competition. But as far as Regiment, I mean, you know, one of the things I like to, I like to get up a lot of shots. I like to get shots on the moves, standstills. you know, mid-ranges, trying to everywhere, floaters, get up as many shots as I can, and then defensively, you know, work on my defense, you know, guard guys, instead of me just playing, you know, one-on-one versus them, I'll go in guard and work on my defense, try to find angles and really play around with stuff like that.

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skill work and they're not going against live bodies and you have to go against live bodies. And I find that fascinating because specifically with your post game, you are a master of leverage on the ground because I actually wanted to ask you about this. I saw a tweet going around of just one of the videos of that scrimmage against Team USA and you were driveling up the floor against LeBron and you attacked him in the post and you drew a foul on him. And we all remember remember the famous shot from the, and I'm a Laker fan, so it was a little, little devastating for me. But you hit a, you hit a like a left shoulder fade along the right baseline over LeBron that was going everywhere. But then I started digging through your film and it's like, oh, he's taking

a step back in the post against Isaiah Stewart. Like, oh, he's got Herb Jones on him and he just posted him up and hit a hook shot over the top. You have this like obsession with the attacking taller players in the post? Like, where are you just challenging yourself or do you see an advantage there. I mean, I would say, I don't know, I hear what you're saying. I mean, Herb Jones, I think we're about the same height. But I say the store is definitely taller than, but as far as attacking other players, I think, you know, it's unexpected, you know, especially, you know, if you're smaller, no big guys expecting a smaller guy to post them up. And, you know, that's a place where I feel comfortable. And a lot of the times, you know, they're, you know,

they're expecting something else. So it kind of is a switch in their mind. something that they're not expecting. And, you know, when I see a big guy, try to, you know, face up, try to take them off the dribble. And if I can't, then, you know, I just get back to what I know, try to post up. And, you know, a lot of the times, you know, you pump fake a big guy. Most of the time, they're going to jump. So, you know, that's something that I always keep in the back of my head. Well, and then again, it goes back to that ground battle piece.

Like, that's what I think of when I watch you in those situations. Like, you're seeing that you can win the battle on the ground. I can pivot around this guy, get to my spot. And then you have the little. left shoulder fade, you have the right shoulder fade, you have the left shoulder hook. So, like, those are all over the top shots anyway. They're designed to be hit over length. So, like, I think you see that you just have an advantage there in that you can go to work.

Let's, uh, what do you think is your biggest area of improvement for a player as a player right now? Um, I would just say for me, um, being consistent, knock down three point shooters, one of the things I'm looking to to really improve, um, this off season as well as, you know, just being a hound on defense, being able to, you know, go. are the best player on the opposing team and shut them down. Yeah, your junior year at UCLA, according to Synergy, you got 0.79 points per jump shot, 0.87 the next year, 0.91 with Miami. So you're steadily tearing up as a jump shooter every year.

And it's funny because I listen to people like either commenting underneath my videos or just people talking about basketball on Twitter. And they're under the impression that like you just go in for a summer and you can come out a great jump shooter. And it's like, no, it's a grind. You've got to shoot thousands and thousands of jump shots every single day for months and months and months. And it's a slow grind. And so there's obviously signs that you're making improvements on that front.

And honestly, I would imagine that's something that they need within that Miami offense. Actually, I have a follow up for you. On the post-up stuff, did Eric Spolstra approach you and say like, hey, I watched her film at UCLA. I saw how successful you are attacking matchups in the post. let's incorporate that? Or did you demonstrate it? And then everyone was like, oh, he can do this. Let's try to build this out more.

I would say he definitely watched his film because some of the sets that we ran were like almost identical to the ones I ran at UCLA. So I think, you know, that's just how great of a coach he is. He knows what his player's strengths are. And he tries to, you know, expose that on the court and then give us an opportunity to play to our strengths. And that's just what makes him such a great coach. And, you know, going back to, you know, the jump.

shooting thing. That's one of the things that we talk about a lot is, you know, success is not linear. You know, it's not a straight uphill. You're going to go down. You're going to go up. And then you're going to go down again. And then you're going to go up. And then, you know, to see those jumps, it takes time. And it's, like you said, it's a grind. Well, especially with jump shooting. Because jump shooting is, it's such a head game, too, because you can go cold and miss four or five in a row, even if you're doing everything right. And it can just be frustrated. So mental. It's such a mental thing. You shoot so many shots. You're like, how do I miss? So that's what I think. So specifically with Spolstra, was there a set,

is there a specific set that they would draw up for you to get a bucket that was your favorite that you can think of? Like in the huddle, it's like, we're running this for Jaime. He's going to attack this matchup. Is there one that you have in mind? Yeah, there's a few that I like. The cross screen on the baseline is one that sticks out to me. And then we have a little nose where I catch it around. Well, they set a down screen for me and go up around to the elbow wing area and then catch it in a pick-a-roll.

So those are two of them are. Yeah, get you to a good spot. Get the defender in trail position. So you have a little bit of an advantage. For sure. Was it hard for you to pick up Miami's offense? Or was it pretty like was a pretty standard read and react five out stuff? I mean, you know, it's basketball.

I think the difference in the NBA versus colleges. And the NBA, it's a lot of actions versus sets. You know, we got to get to this action. Okay, let's get to another action. You know, usually you got you got two ball swings and then you need a shot because of the short, you know, 24 seconds and versus college where you can swing. and swing the ball maybe three times and get a shot. But it's all actions. It's all, you know, basketball stuff.

So it wasn't too complicated. So you play with Jimmy Butler. Obviously, this is a guy that you probably were a fan up from afar for a long time. What was it like being his teammate? I mean, it was great, man. You know, that was my favorite player growing up. So, you know, now to be his teammate, it's a little weird. You know, having, you know, one of your idols now become, you know,

one of your teammates slash friends. And so it was such a cool experience. And then you're doing commercials together and stuff. Yeah, doing commercials. Have you guys had some battles in practice? Yeah, we had some battles. You know, the one-on-one, that's something that we do a lot after practice is have one-on-ones and, you know, from different spots, whether it be the low post, elbows, even on the wings and then shooting competitions as well. It gets competitive.

Did you talk some trash to you at the beginning? Yeah, yeah. We definitely try to test me for sure. You know, I stood my ground, which I think, you know, he respected. So what's the plan for the rest of the summer? You're going to take some time off after the select team? Or are you going to get right back into it? Oh, well, I got a game tomorrow.

Oh, okay. Yeah, I'll be playing here. Oh, you're playing with Summer League? Yeah, 3.30 tomorrow. I got a game. So, you know, been working. Continuing, we have practice this morning and then, you know, got a game tomorrow.

I'm excited for it. What's different about Summer League this year compared to last year? Do you just feel like so much more confident? Yeah, I mean, I was confident before. I think I just got a year of the league under my belt. And, you know, now it's not first summer league is the second. So that's pretty the biggest difference. Are the, the summer league practices, is that, do you feel like you get a lot out of them?

Do you feel like this is a good off-season workout for you anyway? Yeah, for sure. I mean, any practice that you do, I think is good practice. You know, you have to also practice with intention. So, you know, it would be able to get out here, you know, connect with some of the guys, you know, Kalil, Pelle, or two draft picks. It's been great, seeing how they work. operate and getting to connect and, you know, start, you know, being that guy that

welcomes the new guys in, like, you know, they did be, they did to me the last year. All right, we got one last question before we get out of here. Before we wrap up, I saw some awesome merch here at the Chase for, at, uh, at the Brotherhood Deli presented by Chase Freedom and the MBPA designed by Scoot Henderson. That's a pretty awesome collaboration. And there's also some limited edition mini basketballs by SuuSai. Are you walking out here with one of those? They'll give me one out there with a suicide basketball.

All right, guys, Jaime, thank you so much for taking the time to sit down. I sincerely appreciate it, man. Good luck to you with the rest of Summer League. Good luck for next season. I'll be here tomorrow watching. I'll be covering you closely next year. You've been one of my favorite players for a long time. It was awesome to sit down and talk some hoops with you.

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