The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hoops Tonight - Lakers Offseason Breakdown: Does LeBron have enough help to win title?

Episode Date: July 6, 2023

Jason Timpf breaks down the Los Angeles Lakers’ offseason moves and discusses how LeBron James and Anthony Davis will have a shot at dethroning Nikola Jokic and the Denver Nuggets this coming year. The Lakers are mostly running it back in 2023-24 after re-signing Austin Reaves, D’Angelo Russell, and Rui Hachimura, while adding some extra depth in Cam Reddish, Jaxson Hayes, and Gabe Vincent. Will it be enough to get them to the 2024 NBA Finals? #volume #herdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Lakers and their offseason, which I think has come to a close. I think they'll assign maybe one more player, probably someone like Tristan Thompson, but for the most part, the core rotation players are what they are going to be headed into next season. And as you guys know, the Los Angeles Flakers are really the one team that I root for on a personal level. Obviously, LeBron James is the person that got me to fall in love with the game of basketball in a family that I grew up that didn't really expose me to basketball. So I've kind of a sentimental attachment there.

And so these last few years with LeBron James and the NBA will be my last few years having a real rooting interest for a team. I'll always have teams that I like more than others and players that I like more than others, but nothing like the sort of actual sentimental fanhood that I have for the Lakers as long as LeBron James is still in the league. So this is going to be fun for me. We're going to do a, we're going to look at this offseason from a bunch of different angles. We're going to zoom in on the offseason moves that they made. I'm going to do scouts on the two players that I didn't hit in our free agency reaction. That is Jackson Hayes and Cam Reddish. Then we're going to do a little

look at their depth charges to kind of see what boxes the Lakers check across the board. And then I want to do a kind of a breakdown of why I think Rob Belinka deserves a lot of credit for what he's done since the Russell Westbrook fiasco to start last season. You guys know the drill before we get started. Subscribe to the volumes YouTube channels. You don't miss any more of our videos. Follow me on Twitter at underscore Jason LT. So you guys don't miss any show announcements. And if for whatever reason you miss one of these videos and you can't get back over to YouTube to finish, don't forget you can find them wherever you get your podcast under hoops tonight.

So quick offseason recap in the draft. After the Lakers get Jalen Hood-Chafino in the first round, he's a big guard that shot 40% on pull-up jumpers last year in college. Maxwell Lewis, a 3-and-D wing, an outstanding catch-and-shoot player with a little bit of off-the-dribble poppy. He reminds me of kind of like a Trey Murphy type of prospect. Obviously, he's got a long way to go to get there. But a couple of picks that I really like.

And free agency, they're re-signed to Angela Russell, Austin Reeves, and Ruby Hachamura, all on team-friendly numbers. And then outright, they signed Tori and Prince on the biannual exception, Gabe Vincent on the mid-level exception, Cam Reddish on a veteran minimum contract, and Jackson Hayes on a veteran minimum contract with a player option for a second season. So Lakers fans who missed it in our free agency breakdown,

I already did evaluations of Tori and Prince and Gabe Vincent, so I won't do those here. But I want to hit Cam Reddish and Jackson Hayes really quick. So Cam Reddish is your textbook high potential wing that hasn't really gotten much of an opportunity in the NBA because he struggles to do his job within a five. man unit. There's a lot, there's a big gap between what Cam Reddish is capable of and his ability to impact winning in the NBA right now. He has great tools. He's six foot eight with shoes on as a

seven one wing span. He weighs 217 pounds after a couple seasons of NBA strength and conditioning. But he's just not a very good basketball player. His spot up points per possession is well below a point per possession. He shot 34% on jump shots in Portland, 33% on catch and shoots, 39% on unguarded catch and shoots. Attacking closeouts, he tends to over penetrate and get himself into some trouble, turn the basketball over, take really tough shots. He's bad in pick and roll. They scored just 65 points on 76 KM Reddish pick and rolls, including passes.

That's well below a point per possession. He didn't have 13 points on 13 ISOs, but I watched every single one of the ISOs, and they all are the exact same move. It's like catch on the wing, stare and face, hard jab step, drive to the left, hard spin move back to his right and try to finish at the basket, although it was effective last year in small sample size. He's also a pretty bad defensive player. He leaves his feet on pump fakes.

It's funny because I used to be really intrigued by Cam Redis as a defensive prospect when he was at Duke. His ability to slide his feet at his size is pretty unique. But that just hasn't translated to the NBA because he has really bad habits. He leaves his feet on pump fakes. He reaches in and gets burned. He comes out of his stance, which causes him to lose that side-to-side mobility, which is so important to him.

Portland unleashed him on a lot of star players last year. I watched a lot of footage of him guarding guys like Kauai Leonard and Brandon Ingram and Jason Tatum, and those guys just absolutely barbecued camera. It's just about every single time they had an opportunity to. He also doesn't rebound well for a guy who's a good athlete with good size and long arms. He only averaged 3.7 rebounds per 36 minutes with the Blazers last year. So he still has a ton of upside. So I like designing for depth.

Again, anything with a veteran minimum contract is really low risk. But I don't think he's going to be playing any meaningful basketball for the Lakers, at least not this year. But again, the Lakers have a great player development program. And my guess is that they're just betting on a couple of seasons with Phil Handy amounting to Cam Reddish growing into a useful NBA player. Jackson Hay, 6-11 and a half with shoes on. So almost a legit seven-footer, seven-foot 3.5 inch wingspan.

220 pounds, so definitely thin, although I thought he held up pretty well in physicality situations. He is an excellent vertical spacing threat. He catches and dunks everything. He had 34 points on 22 roll man possessions, which is almost a point in half, which is excellent. And he had 45 dunks, which is just about once a game because I think he only played in 46 games last year. He also has decent touch on his floater in the lane. He took 13 floaters and made seven of them last year. On defense, I wasn't expecting him to be, but he was actually a really good pick and roll defender last year. Teams ran 107 pick and rolls at him that amounted to just 72 points.

That's just about two-thirds of a point per possession. that was number one in the entire NBA for big men who guarded at least 100 pick and rolls. On tape, he's just long as hell. With his mobility, he can come up to the level of the screen and he can contest pull up jump shots. And when guys try to get downhill on him, they're just shooting over a seven-footer with super long arms, who's really active. And they struggle to finish over the top. He did struggle a little bit in switches statistically, but I actually thought he did well on tape.

He gave up about 1.2 points per possession on switches in large part because dudes were just hitting tough contested jump shots in his face in a lot of situations this season. I actually thought on tape he performed pretty well. The one thing he really struggled with was Luca got him with a bunch of pump fakes in some ISO, so that's just a discipline thing. And then super quick guards have been able to turn the corner onto him. I saw Trey Young beat him off the dribble. I saw Kyrie Irving beat him off the dribble. He definitely struggled with some foot speed stuff with some smaller, quicks. or guards. But point being, I actually think he's going to be a really useful player for the

Lakers as a backup center. Again, a backup center on the minimum, who's a good pick and roll defender, who struggles a little bit in switches, but is a good vertical spacing thread on the other end of the floor. That's like a home run. I don't think he's a playoff player. I don't think he's the backup center. The Lakers are going to need in a long playoff run, but I think he's perfectly fine to eat innings in the regular season. Put a pin in that because we're going to come back to that idea later on when we start talking about. Rob Polinka. So as we zoom out, I want to quick kind of go through the depth chart positionally and then in terms of archetypes. So the depth chart, you have at the guard core, Austin Reeves,

DeAngelo, Gabe Russell, Gabe Vincent, Jaylen Hood, Chafino. That's a really, really good guard core. Three of those dudes have just got a lot of good playoff experience. Gabe Vincent made a run to the finals last year. DeLo and Austin Reeves made it to the Western Conference finals. DeAngelo Russell really struggled against the Nuggets, but he had moments elsewhere. They probably don't beat a team like Memphis in that game four. If DeAngelo Russell doesn't get red hot from three at some moments attacking in the Warriors series as well, Austin Reeves was just awesome during the entire playoff round. I think he's still, even with all of the Lakers hype and the big contract and everything,

I think he's still one of the more underrated players in the league. People just don't realize how good that kid is. And then Jalen Hutchino, obviously has a lot of upside as a young athletic guard who's got really good physical tools, but he's in a situation where he doesn't necessarily have to be great because he's got three really good guards ahead of him. Forwards, LeBron James Rihachamura, Jared Vanderbilt, Tori, and Prince, Max Christie, and Max Lewis.

That's just an awesome core of forts. No other way around it. You can't do much better than that around the league. And then at the center position, you have Anthony Davis, who's one of the top three or four centers in the league, depending on who you ask. I'd say he's probably the third best center in the league, maybe second, depending on how you value Anthony Davis's defensive impact over someone like

Joel Embed. But then you've got Jackson Hayes is a decent backup center, and I do think they're going to end up bringing in Tristan Thompson with that last roster spot we will see. Offensive archetypes. So they have four players that are good in pick and roll. Austin Reeves, DeAngelo, Russell, Gabe, Vincent, LeBron James can all run pick and roll effectively. And then they have four guys that can screen and roll effectively. Anthony Davis, LeBron James, Rehach, and Jackson Hayes. So they're going to be another heavy pick and roll offense in all likelihood. They do also have three rim pressuring forward.

Remember how much that matters for me with matchup attacking, especially against switching teams? Anthony Davis, LeBron James, and Rui Hachamura can all punish mismatchezes in the post. They have an arsenal of reliable spot-up shooters. This is crazy. Austin Reeves, DeAngela Rueh, Hachamura, Tori, and Prince, Max Christie, and Max Lewis. Every single one of those guys was well over a point per possession and spot-up situations last year.

And then Gabe Vincent is the only guy who wasn't above a point per possession in spot-up situations last year, but he was way over a point per possession the previous season and way over a point per possession in the playoffs, which leads you to believe that that regular season last year was a little bit of an outlier. So going from where we were last year with the Lakers as a team that basically had no shooting, to now they are just chock full of dead-eye spot-up shooters and guys who can attack closeouts at basically every single position except for the center position, that's really, really intriguing. And if Anthony Davis and LeBron James, you notice I didn't even mention those two guys. If those two guys can get their ass in the damn gym this summer and fix their jump shots,

this could be a really, really good jump shooting team, which could really raise their ceiling. On the defensive end, this is where it gets a little tricky. In terms of perimeter defenders, the only outstanding perimeter defender they have is Jared Vanderbilt. I'm not counting Anthony Davis because you're not going to use him for that during the regular season. Although we know he can, and you got two clutch stops against Steph Curry in the Western Conference semifinals last year. But in terms of perimeter defenders, it's basically Vanderbilt and Anthony Davis. Guys like Gabe Vincent, Austin Reeves, Tori, and Prince are all just kind of okay at it.

You know what I mean? They're good. They're playable. They're not going to hurt you on that end of the floor. Everything they bring is a package is worth it, but they're not going to be the guys that are going to significantly hamper a guy like Steph Curry in a playoff series, right? Thin athletic wings. Remember, I have like two different types of forwards. There's the thin athletic forwards, and then there's the big power forwards.

The thin athletic forwards, they have Jared Vanderbilt, Torian, Prince, and Max Christie. It's a decent core there. And then big power wings. These are guys that you can switch on to Biggs to guard in the post, but they can also guard a little bit against some of the power wings, guys like Kawhi Leonard, guys like Jimmy Butler in the league. They have LeBron James and Rui Hachamura, so some decent options there. Rim protectors, Anthony Davis, and Jackson Hayes.

Not a perfect roster, but a pretty well-rounded one. that should be able to win a lot of regular season games. And again, when I say a lot of regular season games, it's all relative to the competition. I think the Denver Nuggets were the best team I've seen since the 2018 Warriors, and they only won 53 games last year. So it's not about like, oh, you need to win 65 games to be great. When the league is this stacked and this deep,

chances are you're not going to end up getting that many wins. Like the West was just flat out better than the East last year, and we saw that in the playoffs, but it didn't really look like that during the regular season because they were just beating the shit out of each. other and it didn't manifest like that in the standings. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games.

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in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right. Let's talk about Rob Polinka for a minute. So I was really critical of Rob Polinka in previous seasons. I thought that he made a critical mistake overlooking the Miles Turner trade for overlooking the Miles Turner trade and Buddy Heel trade last summer in running things back with Russell Westbrook. I think he made a critical mistake making the Russell Westbrook trade to begin with

when everybody in the world who understood basketball knew that that was a bad idea. And I'm not like literally it was the consensus opinion that it was a bad idea. It was obvious that it was a bad fit with LeBron James and Anthony Davis. Rob Polinkas is the president of basketball operations. It was his job to stop that from happening. I've been very critical of him. Letting Alex Crusoe go. That's inexcusable.

Losing the Julius Randall asset for nothing. Losing the Brooke Lopez asset for nothing. There have been a lot of mistakes that Rob Polica made in previous iterations. effectively destroying a championship roster. That team won the title in 2020 and was basically a non-playoff team for a season and a half. And I do think Rob Polinka deserves most of the blame for that. But as you guys know, I don't have personal vendettas on this show.

I'm not going to sit here and criticize Rob Polinka for all eternity. I am going to do what I do with every player executive that I talk about on this show. I'm going to point out the good things they do and point out the bad things that they do is the purpose of basketball analysis, right? And when it comes to Rob Polinka, ever since the trade deadline, deadline. I think he's done a really nice job. The trade deadline, I think, is a little overstated because guys like DeAngelo, Russell ended up really struggling in the playoffs. Malik Beasley was completely unplayable. And then Jared Vanderbilt was kind of matchup dependent. And in some series, didn't,

really have the ability to stay on the floor. But what he did do is he got, he got Russell Westbrook off the roster. The Rui Hachamura trade was an absolute home run from a Rob Polinka. And he deserves a mountain of credit for that with three second round picks that he immediately. immediately turned around and recouped, I think, in the Thomas Bryant trade, if I remember correctly, I'm not 100% certain. But the point is, is Rob did overall a pretty good job at that deadline. And say what you want about DeAngelo Russell and Malik Beasley, they lost some Malik Beasley asset for nothing, but they were able to re-sign DeAngeler Russell at a friendly number that they can use for salary filler. And Jared Vanderbilt is going to be a very useful player for the Lakers in the regular

season. So overall, I think he's done a really nice job. And then the big one is this summer, I was listening to Tim Bond Temps. He said something yesterday where he was like, the Lakers did nothing to get materially better. Why is everyone talking about how they had this great offseason? And I understand the premise of what he's saying, because this is more or less the same team from last year with a couple of role player upgrades, right?

Like Gabe Vincent is probably like maybe the same type of players as Dennis Schroeder. We'll see how, I say same level of player. I think Gabe's a better offensive player. Dennis is a better defensive player, but he kind of filled that need. And then Tori and Prince is definitely going to be an interesting depth option as a guy that can actually shoot a little bit while guarding on the perimeter. But other than that, it was all basically bringing everybody back, right? Like, it's the same Austin Reeves, DeAngelo Russell, and Rui Hachamur that they had last year, right?

So I agree with Bon Temps in the sense that they didn't get materially better. But the key is Rob Polinka maintained a core of a team that went 18 and 8 post-deadline last year, despite losing, LeBron for most of those games and made the Western Conference Finals. So he brought all those guys back, which will allow them to succeed in the regular season, but he maintained the flexibility they need to make the trade they'll need to make to improve to become a bona fide top-tier championship contender, which they probably already are. But if they find themselves at the deadline needing to do something to surpass Denver, they have real tools at their disposal, which was not the case.

last year. And that's why I think he's done such a great job. I've said this multiple times going into this summer, but there were three things that I think the Lakers had to address in order to become a perfect basketball team, so to speak. I thought they needed an athletic guard who can guard on the perimeter, someone like Bruce Brown or Alex Caruso, because you saw what Bruce Brown did to the likes of DeAngelo Russell in this particular playoff run. I thought they needed to have a real over-the-top shot creator. LeBron James and Anthony Davis and their failing jump shots was a big problem for the Lakers in the half court. The only way they were going to do that is either LeBron James or Anthony Davis getting better

this summer and fixing their jump shots or making a trade for someone like a Kyra Irving, right? And then the last thing they needed is a bona fide backup center that can actually play in the playoffs. Now, I don't think they accomplished any of those three things, but they didn't really have an option to this summer. I don't think they had, like, let's just go through it. Bruce Brown went for $45 million for two years. The Lakers weren't getting him. And Alex Crusoe wasn't available in trade.

So guess what? They couldn't get that type of player in this particular, a free agent run. The over-the-top shot crater, Kyrie Irving resigned with Dallas. And the Lakers did not have the salaries to match for someone like Bradley Beale. So it was not an option this summer.

The backup center thing, Brooke Lopez stayed. And I don't think Mason Plumley was the guy. So there wasn't really a big. backup center available that was going to fit the need that what they wanted. But at the deadline, they might be able to do that. They might be able to trade for Alex Crusoe or someone similar. They might be able to trade for Miles Turner or someone similar to fortify that backup center. If they're sitting at the deadline and they're like, man, Anthony Davis and LeBron James are

still declining as shopmakers, we have to do something. They can go trade. And for a bona fide shot creator at the deadline. Or, hey, LeBron James and Anthony Davis got in the gym this summer and fixed their jumpers, LeBron's back to where he was in 2020. We're in good shape now. Okay, now we don't need to make that trade. But no matter what, now they have the flexibility. Rui Hachamura, Gabe Vincent, Austin Reeves, and DeAngel Russell all make somewhere between

$11 million a year and $20 million a year. And they're all in the middle there. So if the need arises and they need to go after that type of player, they can make that type of trade at the deadline. And they don't need to before then. All of those problems are Denver problems. They can beat anybody in the league as currently constructed except for Denver. Those are Denver problems.

And you might not even have a Denver problem if LeBron James and Anthony Davis fix their jump shot and Anthony Davis competes against Yokic in a way that he didn't last year. So you didn't need to do anything. Patience was the right approach in this offseason. It was the wrong approach last season. Sending that group with no shooting and no forwards into that awful schedule to start the season was bound to put them in a 2-10 hole and make it so they were digging out of the standings all season. That was a bad idea, and I was critical of Rob Polinka of that.

But this season, patience was the right approach because that roster, that depth chart that I went over, is going to win a ton of regular season games. Again, relative to the field. They are going to consistently be in that one through four seed all season long. And so you can just eat innings and chill during the regular season and then come February, you have a conversation. Where are we at? Are we good enough? Did Austin Reeves and LeBron James and Anthony Davis improve enough as jump shooters that we don't need an over-the-top guy? Okay, good. Oh, Jackson Hayes is hooping. We're in good shape. We don't need a backup center. Actually, no, it's not working out. Maybe we go target a Miles Turner or a similar backup center. Okay, we're getting torched on the perimeter by this particular

type of player, and I'm worried about it against Jamal Murray in the Western Conference Finals. Okay, we need to go target an Alex Crusoe type of guy. They can make that move at the deadline and maintain the core because of their depth. Again, I read over the depth chart, they've got players to burn at every position now, which is not the way it used to be. And so, I really do think the Lakers have had a great offseason, even if it doesn't seem like it on the surface, because they were already awesome. Don't let the sweep fool you.

They were the team that was closest to Denver in point differential. Every one of those games came down to the buzzer. Well, not the buzzer, but to the final minutes. The Lakers are this close, but they clearly need to make up that gap. They weren't going to do that this summer. So bring everybody back. Maybe you can flip that gap

at the deadline. So kudos to Rob Polinka. This is going to be a really fun Lakers team. I'm very, very excited to cover them coming into this season. They're going to be a much more entertaining regular season product. And I think they have a real chance to win an NBA championship. Like I said in our video with the Nerd Sedge guys a while back, I think the Lakers are absolutely the team that is most capable of unseating Denver as the defending champions. We are going to be covering the Golden State Warriors in their offseason tomorrow. So keep an eye on the feeds for that. As always, I sincerely appreciate your support, and I'll see you guys then. The Volume.

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