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Episode Date: March 15, 2026

Jason reacts to the Denver Nuggets beating the Houston Rockets. He breaks down how the NBA's Nuggets look with Nikola Jokic, Jamal Murray, Christian Braun, Aaron Gordon, and Cameron Johnson all finally healthy together, how the Rockets offense is struggling with Kevin Durant and Alperen Sengun, plus how the Orlando Magic have won five games in a row. All lines presented by Hard Rock Bet.  #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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All right, welcome to Hoops Tonight here at The Volume. Happy Thursday, everybody. Hope all of you guys are having an incredible week. Keep bearing with me. I'm on like day five of this flu from hell that is just completely knocked me on my ass. week. But quick show today. We're going to be hitting on three teams. I want to talk about the Denver Nuggets and their main starting lineup and how successful that has been over this three game stretch especially, but in the big picture and what it means for the Nuggets. I want to zoom in on

this recent stretch from Houston, this last couple of months and some really concerning trends, especially involving their ability to win on the margins. And then at the tail end of the show, the Orlando Magic have won five games in a row. And they are 11 and 4 in their the last 15. I want to talk a little bit about what's been driving that success. You guys know the Joe before we get started, subscribe to the Hoops Tonight YouTube channel so you don't miss any more of our videos. Make sure you like this video and sign up for post notifications. That helps us a lot. And then last but not least, if you want to get mailbag questions into our mailbag, we're probably not going to have a mailbag this week because I want to do our second to last

contender rankings for tomorrow. So that'll be coming out Friday morning. But if you want to get a mailbag question into our next Friday mailbag, drop them in the comments under the video. them on Fridays the rest of the way. All right, let's talk some basketballs. So Rocket Snuggins, the Rockets hung around in that first half is relatively low scoring. Denver started to pull away a little bit in the late second quarter, but Houston got a couple easy ones around the basket. They cut it to six. But the Denver starters just absolutely blitzed the Rocket starters to start that third quarter. They built up a 20-point lead pretty quickly. The lead got as high as 39, and Denver just cruised through to the finish line from there.

the Nicola Yokic, Jamal Murray, Aaron Gordon, Cam Johnson, Christian Brown looks. So this like starting five that everyone envisioned at the start of the year when they traded Michael Porter Jr. Where you have everybody in like natural positions. Instead of having two fours, you have like a very classic one, a classic two, a classic three, a classic four and a classic five. Everyone wanted to see what that lineup looked like. And they were very good to start the year. But then the devastating line of injuries just made it really difficult. for that group to see the floor together.

In this three-game span, again, against the Knicks, the Thunder, and the Rockets. And obviously, you have a Jamal-Murie ankle injury in there in the Knicks game that knocked him out for the rest of that game. But in that three games, that group of five guys has played 27 minutes, and they are winning those possessions at a rate of 61 points per 100 possessions, plus 61 net in that 27-minute span against two second tier contenders in the Knicks and the Rockets and my number one championship contender of the Oklahoma City Thunder. Albeit, they were down some guys, but then also with how well Jaylon Williams played,

that's more or less a very, very good punch. One of the best punches that you can get from that Thunder team, right? So very good set of teams and that lineup performed well. Even if you parsed out among the games, in five minutes against the Knicks, they were plus seven on the scoreboard. In eight minutes against the Thunder, they were plus 11. And in 14 minutes against the Rockets, they were plus 17. So a very impressive stretch of play from that starting unit against some very good teams at the top of the Western Conference.

And then obviously an Eastern Conference contender for the season now. That team, that lineup has played 187 minutes. They have a 124 offensive rating that's outstanding, a 105 defensive rating. That's very, very good, plus 19 points per 100 possessions. and cleaning the glass who filters out garbage time actually has them at plus 21 net in 380 possession. So first of all, Yokic, we talked last week about how in his first few weeks back from the knee injury, he was way off on all of his bits of shot making from various spots on the floor. Yokic is back in a good group with his shot making.

And it's not just the threes, but the midrangers, the floaters and the hooks. Basically all of the touch shots that were making him so unstoppable, he was. off on for the for a while there when he got back from his knee injury not a big shock he was working his way back into shape he's working his way back into rhythm but in yokech's last five games he's 82% at the rim 64% on non-rim paint two so those are your floaters and hooks and then 78% from the mid range so a lot of positive regression there from yokic as he started to get his legs underneath them i'm still a little worried about his three-point shot but things are starting to come around overall and that little shooting burst at the end of the Oklahoma City game was definitely encouraging.

I wish he'd stop turning the ball over so much. That's another thing he needs to clean up. Yokic is definitely far from the overall, like, best player in the world type of level that we know he was at before he got hurt and that he's capable of getting to. But there's just a lot of positive trends in terms of him getting back to that type of player. Jamal Murray's been in a great roof. He's struggled a little bit against Oklahoma City. Again, that's just a few days after busting his ankle. So not too surprised that.

It's a tough matchup coming back from an ankle injury. But overall, in Jamal's last seven games, he's averaging 29 points per game on 49% from the field and 50% from three. I know Aaron Gordon didn't score against Houston, but you can see the elements that he brings to the team. Like, he guarded Alper and Shangoon very well. That allowed Nicole Yokic to roam for most of the game on either of Tar,

Yason, or M. Thompson, depending on what lineup Houston had on the floor. If Aaron Gordon can't guard Shangun, like if that ends up being Peyton Watson Peyton Watson is going to get tossed around like a ragdoll by Alper and Shangoon. Now Yokic has to guard Shangun that allows Houston to attack him in pick and roll. Like there's a lot of different elements that having Aaron Gordon out there helps boost this team. He had a block and rotation at the rim in the third quarter kind of like a help side, second side of rim protection kind of thing on the left side of the rim.

We got to show that kind of dynamic that I was talking about. When we talked about Aaron Gordon, the layers of rim protection, he's so important to have behind Yokic in that specific setup with the way the team is put together. And he's just such a Swiss Army knife for the team. You guys saw more in the Oklahoma City game how much more he was needed on offense, the ability to shoot the basketball, the fact that he was bigger than most of Oklahoma City's perimeter players. He's just so important to the best version of this basketball team. Christian Brown's three-point shooting has started to come around. He was three for four last night, 36% from three over his last 13 games. Not fantastic or anything, but certainly better than he was to start the year.

He was looking comfortable and confident last night. I also thought he did a great job defensively on Kevin Durant last night, just taking away the easy ones, being physical up underneath him, really winning the battle on the ground and stopping KD from getting the deep paint touches that can really break a defense down. And then I thought Cam Johnson was fantastic last night. He was great defensively. He made a couple of really nice helpside rotation.

at the rim on Rocket's post-ups, where he got blocks from behind, just coming in, catching them with their heads turned. He had a couple of steals. He was doing a great job with these soft double teams of KD where, like, you'd just leave his man, go like two-thirds of the way towards KD and then get up in the passing lane with his arms up.

So as KD would, like, drive at him and try to pass to Kams' man, he would just get active with his hands. He'd get a deflection or get a steal. He hit three-threes in this game. He was aggressive towards the rim at several points, including curling around. action as well as in transition. He made some really nice extra passes, just little like grease the wheel passes.

Like, oh, I know I kind of have a decent look on the right wing, but there's Christian Brown wide open in the corner of one timer, extra pass, beautiful. Or same one. He just made one in the left corner, or in right corner, so why not trust him again on the left wing? Extra pass to the left wing. Christian Brown knocks the shot down. Really nice little close out attack off of the right wing.

Jabari Smith helps too much, throws a bad close out. He racks the close out, little shovel. pass to Yokich in the lane for a little easy like little hook pass or a little hook shot in the lane. So like there's a lot of just he's just a really solid player who just does the right thing on both ends of the floor most of the time.

He's kind of a coach's dream in that sense. I don't think it's a coincidence that he's played as many minutes per game this year as he has despite how deep this team is. It's just he's been so solid on both ends of the floor. But when he can bring that little extra bit of offensive pop, like

actually hit a few of his catch and shoot threes actually make a few plays off of the bounce. He never will have the ceiling of Michael Porter Jr. But he does have a substantially higher floor in all these little parts of the game. So when he just hits a couple shots, he suddenly becomes a star in his role. He's a role player that can be profoundly impactful. And like it shows in the numbers. When Cam Johnson scores more than 10 points in a game this year, the nuggets are 14 and 4.

He in many ways is that ceiling razor, the guy that can push them to the next level when he's actually putting the ball in a basket, in the basket a little bit. That lineup and the success they've had all year when they're healthy, again, this season, in the large sample, 187 minutes plus 19 net, plus 21 net if you filter out garbage time, that is the lineup that if you're a Nuggets fan, you point to as your main point of optimism. We're going to talk about it when we talk about Houston here in a minute, but like, you know, when I dig through all the different like types of contenders throughout the league, There are teams that I think are not as good as they look in the standings,

like specifically Houston and Los Angeles. We're going to talk about them more in a minute. And then there are teams that I think are way better than they look in the standings. Like Minnesota, because they just never play hard. Like Minnesota, the last three games, if you watch Minnesota, they look like trash right now. They're not that bad. They just, they aren't.

They just have these extended funks in the regular season where they don't play hard and their offense falls apart. You know, I think they're a lot better than they look in their record. Denver, similarly, it was the injuries. The injuries just decimated this team at various points in the year, including losing their superstar for a good chunk of time. I think this Denver team is a lot better than their record shows, and that lineup is the main point of optimism there.

Getting those guys healthy, props to Jamal Murray, too, for playing through the ankle injury. It'd be very easy to be like, oh, I'm going to take a couple weeks off here. But, like, this team just needs reps. They need reps with their main guys, and building out that lineup and getting it to the point where it just continues to crush everybody, that's their best chance. to win multiple playoff rounds this year.

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So I want to dive into this dynamic. One of the things that we've talked a lot about when it comes to like the pathways to content. mention is you either got to dominate the half-court battle or you got to dominate on the margins. Those are like the two environments in a basketball game, right? There's the static half-court environment, which is like everybody's back on defense, my five guys versus your five guys. Defense is set. Let's see if we can score or let's see if we can guard on the other end of the floor, right? It's a very static dynamic. But then everything outside of that dynamic is the alternative ways you can win basketball games. It's the special teams, so to speak, of the NBA. Can you win the offensive

rebounding battle? Can you win by forcing turnovers? Can you win by outrunning and just getting up and down the floor in transition? Can you win by getting to the foul line a lot? There's a bunch of like different margins that you can hunt outside of that static half-court environment. Now, Houston's offense has slipped all the way down to the 22nd half-court offense in the NBA. Now, their half-cold offense was much better to start the year, but throughout most of the year, their offense has been bolstered by things like the offensive glass, as well as getting out in transition and things along those lines.

But the offense has tapered off as they haven't shot the ball as well. They were red-hot to start the season. Stephen Adams obviously goes out with an injury and changes your offensive rebounding dynamic. That slipped, and so there's been a bigger spotlight specifically on their half-court offense. They're incredibly turnover prone, They handle doubles poorly.

They handle traps poorly. Everyone's responsible. Kevin Durant's terrible at it. He seems to, it's amazing to me how often KD gets caught off guard by doubles, considering how often he's been doubled this year. Like there are several times against Denver last night where it's like the double catches him and he just kind of panics

and he just throws the ball right into the, to the trapper's hands. And it's like, dude, you've seen 500 double teams this year. Like you've got to be a little bit more ready, a little bit more prepared. Reed Shepherd is so small that he'll have games where he stacks up turnovers, similarly throwing the ball into length. Shangoon has 16 games this year with five plus turnovers, which is crazy for a guy that has a usage rate that's high,

but not like anywhere near as high as most of the ball handlers in the NBA. And they'll have sequences where they handle traps well and they'll get a dunk. Like last night, it was a nice little display of Josh Okie's interior passing. I thought he had a lot of like nice little like connective plays in the middle of floor where he caught the ball, quickly read the situation, dumped it off for a man Thompson, Thompson gets a dunk, something like that. But they just have way too many possessions where they botch it somewhere along the way.

Like the ball handler will throw it right into the opponent's hands or the short roll guy will turn it over in the middle of the floor or like someone will catch it underneath the basket in the dunker spot but like not actually be able to finish because they didn't process it fast enough and now all of a sudden everyone's reacted. And they've been a really poor jump shooting team for a while now. Since December 15th, which is where things really started to go off the rails a bit for Houston. Their 20th and three point percentage and 27th and three point makes. That was getting floated earlier in the season by them just shooting way out of their depth. A lot of guys,

we talked about it on the show. These are guys where it's like, these guys don't typically shoot the ball super well, you know? And my whole thing was like maybe these other guys will fill the gap. Like maybe Dorian Finney Smith will come in and shoot better. And like the opposite has happened. Like those guys have stayed cold and the guys that had been shooting well early in this like Tarisin is cooled off considerably. Most of their bench guards can't shoot. And so as a result, like Denver, you saw it last night,

their ability to consistently just stash Jamal Murray or Nicole Yokic on non-shooters to muck up everything in Houston's offense or to throw random double teams at KD, that caused a ton of problems. And when you got guys like Yokic and Murray in particular, like they're both really gifted defensive playmakers. When they get to use their IQ to like anticipate plays

and their quick reflexes to get deflections, they can actually be good defenders as opposed to situations where they're forced to guard in space, which is something that Houston can't make them do. I think Houston might be dead on arrival in this particular matchup against Denver. Denver is just too good at playing defense against this type of team,

these types of teams that give them the flexibility to stash their defensive playmakers on guys that can't score or can't shoot. and like Houston looked hopeless last night on defense trying to guard Denver's five. So like I don't think Denver's going to be able to cause anywhere near as many problems. Excuse me, I don't think Houston's going to be able to cause anywhere near as many problems for Denver starting five as Denver can cause for Houston with what they can do defensively. And as we talked about, the problem with your half court offense issues, when you have a bad half court offense, you have to be great on the margins to make up for it. Like what Houston did early in the year or what Detroit is.

and doing all season. Since Stephen Adams went down, they're not even winning the offensive rebound battle anymore. Since January 20th, that's the first game they played after Stephen Adams was out for the season, they're losing the offense rebound of battle.

They are allowing 16 and a half second chance points per game and getting 16.1. So negative 0.4 points per game in the second chance battle. That is no longer a positive, margin for them since Stephen Adams went down. They get annihilated in transition and in points off of turnovers because they can't take care of the basketball. They lose points off of turnovers by 4.7 points every single game and they lose fast break points by 3.4 points per game. So now

they are negative across the board in the margins and the turnover fast break stuff. That's just the nature of their inability to take care of the basketball, but they're even slightly losing offensive rebounding. And so when you actually get killed in the margins and you can't score in the half court, that's going to put you in a really, really tough spot. The one thing that they have, the one strong point that they have is that they are a very good defense. And so that is what has allowed them to win the amount of games that they have. The concerning part to me, though, is what used to be a very strong part of their contending case was how well they performed against the top teams. That was something I talked a lot about

earlier in the season was like, well, every single time they end up in a big game, they they compete really well and they've won so many of them. Well, that has completely gone the other direction. Back to back, blowout losses to Denver and San Antonio. They lost to the Knicks a few weeks back. The last time they beat one of my top nine contenders was that win in Oklahoma City against the Thunder, but that was without A.J. Mitchell, without Shane Gilles Alexander or J. Dubbs. So, like, basically the shell of the thunder with no ball handling,

a completely different type of challenge, right? Like, barely even resembles what they look like when at least Shea is out there, right? And then before that, before that win in Oklahoma City, blown out at home by the Celtics, that crazy fourth quarter debacle against the Spurs where they ended up losing by 12, you have to go all the way back to January 23rd when they won that big game on the road in Detroit.

That was the last time the Rockets beat one of the top nine contenders if we don't count that Oklahoma City win, which again was without Shea, J.W.J. Mitchell. So like, it hasn't been pretty. It's been trending in the wrong direction. for a long time. Again, if you look at the team, they have one true strength. They're a good defensive team.

They are ninth in offensive rating on the season, but those numbers were floated by their absurd shooting in the early part of the season, and since then it's trended significantly downward. And again, they've been losing the second chance points battle since Stephen Adams went down. So you're a good defense, not even a great defense. They've been 10th in defensive rating since December 15th.

So it's not like they've been an elite defense, but they've been a good defense for most of the season, and the offensive rebound margin is gone, and their offense has fallen off of a cliff. And so I'm beginning to look at the Rockets the way that I look at the Lakers. You can't completely count them out because you got KD and you've got a good defense,

and we all know that Shangoon is capable of playing dominant basketball for stretches, although Shangoon's kind of having a disappointing season. For the Lakers, it's different. It's like, well, what about, if LeBron, Luca, and Austin just get hot for a month all at the same time. But both of these teams are so deeply flawed compared to those other middle tier West teams. Again, those four, they're all right next to each other in the standings.

And all season long, I've been saying this. Like, I see a lot of Lakers fans already. Like, oh my gosh, like, we're tied for the third seed in the West. And it's like, what have I been saying? Everyone in that chunk of the standings is like one bad week from being the sixth seed. and one great week from being the three seed. And that's why it just keeps going like this all damn season long. Denver's up to three, Denver's down to six.

Houston's up to three. Houston's down to five. It's just everyone's going up and down because they're all just kind of clustered on each other. But if you actually dig into why their records look the way that they look, and again, I don't want to pretend like Houston and the Lakers don't have some injury things that have popped up this year. Obviously the Stephen Adams injury hurt the team. Obviously, the Lakers have missed one of their three.

stars for the majority of the season. But like, no one has come close to the injury luck that Denver's had. They're way better than their record because they've just been decimated by injuries. And like we talked about, I'm not falling for the bullshit Minnesota thing again. This is like the 20th time I've watched them in the last two seasons where I'm like, this team looks absolutely terrible. But we just know they get into the postseason. They ratchet up their athleticism in physicality.

They can defend better than most teams in the league. And it just turns out that Anthony Edwards, Julius Randall and Nasreid are really difficult to guard in playoff basketball when they start really starting to impose themselves physically. So I think Minnesota and Denver are kind of in their own tier there. When we've done our contender rankings, I've kind of kept things really simple. Top tier contender, second tier contender. In our last two sets of contender rankings, I'm really going to start to try to parse them out into even smaller tiers as we start to look at what separates these teams and how good of a chance they actually have.

But to me, Houston and L.A. are kind of in that same grouping as like, these teams are just so profoundly flawed. You know, Houston's offense is just terrible and they don't win on the margins anymore. And the Lakers simply don't have the defensive personnel or the overall physicality and athleticism to hang with the top teams in the league. So I'd be shocked if either of those two teams like won multiple playoff series and we were watching them in the Western Conference finals. I'll probably be picking against both of them in their first round series. All right, quickly, before we get out of here today, I wanted to just briefly talk about the Orlando Magic.

They've won five games in a row after a big win against the Cleveland Cavaliers last night. They're 11 and 4 in their last 15 games. They've been the best defense in the league in that span, and there's a couple of specific things that I want to dive into that I think have been driving that. First of all, a lot of switching, especially 1 through 4. Wendell Carter Jr. will switch at the 5 when needed. needed. But one of the, and this is one of, there's a couple of clear distinctions that makes their

switching attack work really well. So one, they switch, but they apply ball pressure. So it's not a passive switching like hang back, keep the ball in front type of defense. They switch and they can get physical and ball and pressure the ball. Two, they don't switch when they don't have to. So like, for instance, last night, Donovan Mitchell's trying to hunt Wendell Carter Jr. and ball screens because he wants to have an easier opportunity to drive. And like, sometimes Jalen Suggs, they'll just be like, guess what? You're not setting a screen on me. Like, and he's super athletic and, in, in, in bulky and strong. And, and he'll just sidle up and get really thin and just get over the top of the screen. He'll chest you up on the other end. And like, there were sequences last night where,

or Donovan, like, straight up couldn't shake Jalen in ball screens. And that's the kind of thing that can happen at times, uh, when you have that level of perimeter defender. Their wing, same sort of thing. Like they're, uh, you'll see like they will switch any action in that one through four. if there's like a really good pick set, but like if guys are trying to slip or if there's any sort of like opportunity to stay attached, they'll stay attached. So they don't concede switches that they don't need to.

And then lastly, they stay home off the ball and they trust their on ball defenders. That's what's different with this kind of switching attack compared to like another team that does a lot of switching, but that doesn't have the perimeter defenders to make it work. The classic example of this is the Lakers. They run a ton of switching and they just have a bunch of bad defenders. So they sag back and, you know,

the Lakers have been playing better defense as of late, but they don't have the personnel to like really, really contain the ball. Orlando has the personnel to really, really contain the ball. This allows them to stay home in offball situations when people are attacking their matchups. And so as a result, they've been great at keeping teams off the three point line all season, but they're number one in the league. An opponent three-pointers made an opponent three-point percentage in this 15-game span where they're 11 and 4, while still being eighth.

in opponent points in the paint. So, like, that is a really impressive switching defense. That's really impressive individual on-ball defense. To be getting less help than the majority of defenses around the league are giving, but to still be a top 10 protecting the paint defense, everyone's just doing a fantastic job of containing the ball in those situations. And then, and this is the big surprise in this 15-game span, they are 10th in offense.

And there's a couple of specific things that I want to zero in on. One, I think Desmond Bain and Palo Bunkero have just been playing fantastic basketball. You could really see early in the year that there was a natural fit there. They had some stuff they had to work out. I didn't like the way that they were attacking on offense in the early part of the season. It felt very your turn, my turn. But the two of those guys have had such a great attacking mentality as of late. Palo is fully healthy now and he's just getting downhill all the time.

And then Desmond Bain, you know, he is the kind of guy that uses his jump shooting ability to generate driving angles better than most guards in the league. And so he gets screaming downhill all the time. He killed the calves in the second half last night, just getting all the way to the front of the rim. Those two guys in this 15 game span are averaging 49.3 points per game. They've both been shooting the ball really well from an efficiency stand. standpoint, awesome basketball from Desmond Bay and Palo Montcaro. All these little random contributions here and there, like Anthony Black will have a massive game one night.

Wendell Carter Jr. was awesome in that second half run last night. And then as a team, they've been shooting the ball from three. Okay. And that's the key because for the majority of the season, they've been in the bottom five and three point percentage in this 15 game span. They've been 17th in three point percentage. Just a handful of contributions across the board, like Palo, shooting in the mid-30s instead of way below that, right? Or like, you know, Jet Howard comes in and

hits a couple of threes last night. Javon Carter hit one. Jalen Suggs has been shooting the ball. Tristan De Silva has been shooting the ball well. Wendell Carter Jr. stepped in and hit a big three out of the right corner last night. Like just guys making a few more than they had been missing early in the season, making them that like average three-point shooting team. When you're just providing that in conjunction with basket attacking, you're really difficult to guard. That's when things turned in that Cavs game yesterday, especially in that late third quarter run. It's just, you know, Jet Howard and Javon Carter and Wendell Carter Jr. all hit some threes. And it's like, man, that's nine points. That's a big deal in a game like that.

So just getting a little bit of better reliability in their spot-up shooting has gone a long way. Orlando's playing some good basketball. Again, they've had a little bit of a light schedule in this run, but they have a couple of really big impressive wins in that span, including that big win against the Cavs last night. They have Washington next. That's an easy one, but they do play the Oklahoma City Thunder on March 17th. That'll be a really interesting one to watch their switch and contain scheme versus Oklahoma City's ability to drive the basketball. I'm excited to watch that one.

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