The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hoops Tonight - Reaction to Austin Reaves 51-point game for Lakers + the 5 most IMPRESSIVE teams to start NBA season

Episode Date: October 28, 2025

Jason reacts to the Houston Rockets starting 0-2 and why he's still optimistic about the Kevin Durant and Alperen Sengun pairing, Austin Reaves having a 51 point, near triple double for the Los Angeles Lakers in a win over the Sacramento Kings without Luka Doncic or LeBron James, and Giannis Antetokounmpo leading the Milwaukee Bucks to an impressive start to the year. Then he gives his five most impressive teams to start this NBA season including Victor Wembanyama's San Antonio Spurs and more. All lines presented by Hard Rock Bet.  #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hope all of you guys had an incredible weekend. We have a jam-pack show for you today. We are hitting on eight teams. We're going to lead off with the Houston Rockets. I'm a little bit more bullish on them than most after their 0-and-2 start. I want to talk about their game against Detroit, some of the things we learned. And some of the things that I expect them to be able to improve. upon over time. After that, Austin Reeves, 51 point near triple double on the road in Sacramento,

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Again, off to an 0 and 2 start. They followed up their heartbreaking loss to Oklahoma City with an equally frustrating loss to Detroit. But I remained bullish on them to start the year. The Pistons, first of all, it was... interesting and revealing on several levels, but let's credit the Pistons. They're a really good young team. They're particularly good at playing in physicality. Like, one of the things that stood out to me in that game was like, Alperin-Shangoon really struggled. Like, it was one of the

worst games I've seen him play in a very long time. And part of the reason is he's not bullying that Detroit Pistons front court. He struggled to Jalen Dern. He struggled with Isaiah Stewart. He struggled with Paul Reed. He struggled even with Tobias Harris. It was meeting his physicality and attacking when he would expose the basketball. Like those guys just met his force with force and they disrupted his rhythm and they forced him into a ton of misses right around the rim. That was a huge factor in Houston's offense in this game. And then Cade, to Cade's credit, he was absolutely fantastic in the second half. He'd gotten off to a little bit of a rough start this season, but he beat several different Rockets coverages in the second half of that game. He was absolutely,

he dropped single coverage down the stretch. The rockets were consistently blitzing him. It kind of turned into this weird blitz off where the rockets were blitzing Cade and the pistons were blitzing KD. And shout out to Detroit. They just kind of won that battle. It made a few more plays. Kade showed some impressive shot making down the stretch. He has a strength and size advantage over a men Thompson. And I thought he did a really nice job using his body to get free of him. He had a really interesting play late in the game where he calls for a ball screen on the right side. A men Thompson is there and he goes like he's about to use the screen and does a good job showing the body and the ball like he's about to use the screen,

gets a men Thompson to take that step into the screen. Then he rejects it. A men Thompson, ridiculous athlete, obviously going to recover, recovers, but Kaye just fends him off because now he's got just that tiny bit of a step, right? And he fends him off and just gets to that little short 12 footer along the lane line on the left side and knocked it down. There's a big, big time shot against one of the apex perimeter defenders in this league. Shout out to the Detroit Pistons. They're a good team. They've been playing together for a while. The Rockets are a work in progress and they got beat. But there's still a ton of good. As I talked about before the season, Katie is such a gifted score coming off of screens that

he can command a lot of aggressive coverages for himself. He can command blitzes and at the level coverages and things along those lines. And he did that against the, He had 37 points, literally forced Detroit to repeatedly blitz him down the stretch after he hit a pullback three that tied the game in crunch time. And honestly, that was where I thought the absence of Dorian, Finney Smith was really felt. The Reed Shepherd thing has been kind of a disaster. We'll dig into that in a little bit. On one level, it's kind of to me just a testament to how good this team can be when they eventually trade for a guard. We'll talk about him in a minute. Then, you know, when you kind of take him out of the equation, it comes down to, to Tari-Eason or Stephen Adams that he's looking at for that fifth starter, or fifth closer, I should say. And so Ima-U-Doka goes with a Tari-Eason down the stretch. And Tari-Eason has been a big issue for them offensively with their spacing. And it just was difficult for them to get good shots off of those blitzes down the stretch of the game. And like, all I could think about when I saw that is, first of all, you know, who's going to really help Dore and Finney Smith,

a guy who like is the perfect connective player on both ends of the floor for them as a guy that is going to knock down that corner three point shot at a high rate who's going to communicate for them defensively which I think will be important. Their defense hasn't been as good as it's capable of being. We'll talk more about that in a few minutes. But like that fifth, that fifth closer, it's going to be a Dorian Finney Smith or it's going to be a guard that they trade for at some point down the line. That's going to be something that is.

is going to make it easier for them to make teams pay for blitzing Kevin Durant. Like this is a thing that, because even above and beyond the fifth player in those lineups, they're going to find ways, sequences, quick passing and cutting sequences to get good shots off of those blitzes. This is a problem. It's not even a problem. This is an upside that they have not experienced in this iteration of the team. They haven't had a player that is going to consistently draw two defensive.

defenders 30 feet from the rip. That is a, that is a massive boost to your offense once you figure out how to make teams pay for it. I looked at that and I was like, Katie's getting blitzed for torching a team and we're not even two games into the season. Like this is an upside. They just got to figure it out. By the way, that's starting lineup. A men Thompson, Kevin Durant, Jabari Smith, Alperin, Shangoon, and Stephen Adams is plus 18 net so far to start the season in 40 possessions according to cleaning the glass. And again, I still think they're capable of playing way better defensively than they have

to this point. They have frequently put Alper and Chang'oon in a roaming role off of non-shooters. And he's been a bit inattentive in some situations. Against Oklahoma City, he had several situations where he was kind of the culprit of their poor semi-transition defense because it's like, he's

roaming, he's supposed to be protecting the rim, but he's just a little slow to get back into position because he's relaxing. That happened several times down the stretch against Detroit. And like, that's something that I think they'll be able to clean up. I think that's a role where Shangoon's going to be able to have some success. And like, they've strangely been bad on the defensive glass, which doesn't even make sense with how big they are.

One of the things I'm seeing on film is they can be a bit slow footed at times. And that can get them a little bit into, you know, the blender of just quicker guards going past them for long rebounds off of misses, like long jump shots and things along those lines. So like there's a lot they can clean up. as I mentioned, Reed Shepherd has not been good. The Rockets are, this is crazy stat, they're plus eight net so far through the two games with him off the floor and minus 18 net with him on the floor.

He doesn't make anything off the dribble. He doesn't make anything at the rim and he turns the ball over. And so to me, honestly, that was just a sign of how much better this team will be when they inevitably make a trade for a veteran guard at some point down the line this season. It's like such an obvious position of need where they've been getting. getting poor play. But even with everything that happened, even with Reed Shepherd struggles, even with Tar Heeson struggles, even with the rebounding struggles, even with Alper and Shangoon having just an absolute nightmare game, even with all of that, even with them being

mostly a new team trying to figure out how to play a new style, they got handed to like tough teams to start the season and they were this close to winning both games. Javari Smith got a wide open three on the left side, down two, that would have given Houston the lead down the stretch of that game. And then as we know, they're, you know, they were up six late in regulation against Oklahoma City. They had a couple of mistakes that led Oklahoma City back in the game. And, you know, Shea misses a tough contested step back over a men Thompson. You're two and oh. Like, so I all I can think as I've watched them through the first two games is they have a million things that can clean up and be much.

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Sacramento is a really good matchup for Austin because their bigs are incapable of switching. Austin can struggle against really athletic teams that can switch from time to time. But in this particular matchup where he's able to essentially get downhill via ball screens, Austin's very, very good at getting his. man caught on the screen by setting him up for the screen. And one of the things that he's best at is he attacks with like a ton of speed coming downhill and ball screens. A lot of players are more methodical. Austin is not methodical. Austin is like attack, attack, attack. And when he gets into the teeth of the defense, he can draw fouls. He can finish at the rim at a high clip. He can stop and

pop short of the rim for those little short jump shots. And he's gotten way better over the course of these last few years of his career at making the kickout reads, the skip and the lob and all those sorts of reads that he can get to in those situations. And like one of the things that I've had my eye on with him is his three-point shot. What I thought was really interesting is when Austin leaves the game late fourth quarter or late third quarter, Lakers are up five, if I remember correctly. And Austin subs out to start the fourth quarter and the wheels just completely fall off. predictably that Laker team

down all three of their top shot creators is just not super talented on offense, right? Shouted to Marcus Smart. He makes a little jump shot that griff's his way to. Marcus has been a total grift show to start the season, but he's found ways to generate some points. Austin comes back

in the game and like this is a guy who'd been attacking all game and you could tell his legs were tired and he went to his pull up three in the fourth quarter and he was able to generate a bunch of points on these shots over the top. of the defense from distance when he got tired. And at that point, the Kings had no choice but to blitz him on ball screens. And he hit the short roller every single time without turning the ball over

and the Lakers role players made them pay. We'll talk more about the Lakers role players in a minute. And then late in the game, after the king stopped blitzing, they stopped blitzing because they were getting beat. They went back to chasing over the top. Austin missed a couple of threes. And it kind of felt like when you're watching the game, like he needs to get one last bucket going towards the skit, and he did. He summoned the strength for one last drive and hit like an insane floater with defenders draped all over him. And then he closed the deal up the line. Just two turnovers, despite insane usage in a damn near 50 point triple double, just for truly remarkable performance from the Lakers' third best player. That's the crazy thing. And so many other Lakers stepped up,

like DeAndre Dayton got a lot of shit for what happened on opening night. I thought he was excellent against Minnesota and I thought he was excellent against Sacramento. It 22, 15 tonight. He got beat to the offensive glass a few times by Subonis, but other than that, I thought he won his matchup. Like, he just badly dominated Demona Sabonis tonight. His length at the rim was a legit factor all night. He picked up a couple of fouls where he's still just a little slow getting his feet set with his hands up without committing fouls. He'll like bump the dude with his chest and pick up a foul. But like he was getting deflections and causing problems at the rim. I thought he ran the floor and transitioned super well all night getting up and down.

and made several plays in that context. And then he consistently torched the Kings on the roll and on the offensive glass. Just rolling to the lane and cleaning up misses, 22 and 15. And again, I thought he was excellent against the wolves as well, as he set good screens for Luca and ended up finishing

a lot of those blitz sequences when Luca started. We saw a very similar sequence in both games. Luca drops 49, Austin drops 51. Luca, same thing. Just torching the traditional coverage. All of a sudden, now you got a blitz. And now we're getting dunks and wide open threes out of the blitz. Now the blitz doesn't work.

We got to go back to playing one-on-one. Like Austin and Luca just straight up broke Minnesota and Sacramento's defenses over the last couple of days. Rui Hachamura last night hit several little ISO jumpers in the middle of the floor that felt like in super important shots, obviously down their shot creators. He scored a few times off of the rolls when Austin was getting blitzed. Marcus Smart, like I mentioned, manufactured offense and he was scrapping all night. Jared Vanderbilt guarded Zach Levine.

just made him work hard for everything and it was his usual wrecking ball self. And shout it to Jake LaRavia. I thought he had his first little moment as a Laker. He hit a huge three relocating to the top of the key off of Rui Hachamur post up. They hit an and one layup off of a seal. Jared Vanderbilt, really nice pass from the top of the key. Jake Laravia sat a back screen, got the defender sealed on his top side, led to kind of created a passing window over the top and he got an and one on Key on Ellis.

And I thought he made several defensive plays as well. It was just a really impressive win for an undermaned Lakers team. I thought they looked terrible in their season opener. And they certainly don't have the best roster in the NBA. I think their roster got a little bit maligned over the last few days as if they didn't win 50 games last year. And again, I don't think they're a perfect basketball team. They're certainly light on defensive talent.

But, I mean, they hung a 128 offensive rating in their last two games. Without any games from LeBron and just two games from Luca, through their first three games of the season, they have the third best offensive rating in the league. And it still feels like they have so many things that they can figure out. And again, two of the teams they played were great defenses. So, like, this is going to be a great offense all year. And has the potential to be, like, really, really special when LeBron comes back.

And again, I know Sacramento is not that impressive of a win, but down Luca and LeBron, I thought it was impressive. And secondly, that Wolves game, I'm not sure how many of you guys caught that Wolves game on Friday night, but, like, the wolves tried to punk them early in. that game. They were mulling them on the glass. They were hitting all sorts of shots. Ant was torching them all night and getting to the rim whenever he wanted. And the Lakers just

punched back. Luca was transcendently great. They finally got some stops in the second half by like scrapping and supporting their mismatches like swarming the ball more gang rebounding to keep them off the glass. And they blew out a very good Wolves team.

And so like, you know, as far as it goes, they still have a lot that can get better at. Obviously, the defensive end is still a work in progress. Obviously, they need to find a way to incorporate LeBron. These are kind of my last two thoughts. I saw a lot of talk from people after even just the Wolves game. That was like, oh, why does this Laker team need LeBron?

Here's a thought. He's a second team all-MBA player when he's healthy. He's an excellent defensive rebounder. They've sucked at rebounding. They need help on the glass. LeBron can help with that. LeBron is a mid-40s catch-and-shoot player. That's something they could really use.

LeBron last year was literally the best switch defender in the entire NBA. You don't think they could use a guy like that on this team. And there are a lot of lineups, including tonight when Luca was out and Austin was on, took breaks where they looked like they did need just that little extra bit of offensive pop. Like, this is the ideal situation for LeBron. You can literally use him to plug in all of the. little holes that they have at various points on the roster. And anything you get from him as a shot creator has found money when you've got two guys that are playing the way Austin and Luca are.

Like, I get it that it's not the most like cooperative top three in terms of like all their talents slotting together absolutely perfectly. But I know that LeBron James would massively help this basketball team. And I've been like legitimately appalled by how many people I've seen say that they'd be better off without him. Like, I'm sorry if you trade LeBron for a couple of role players, this team becomes worse. They don't become better. I think that that's assonine. I just couldn't believe I saw a few people say that over the course of the weekend. And then lastly, I understand that I'm going to come off like a little bit of a man screaming on the porch, or an old man yelling on the porch kind of thing here. But I just don't understand why Luke is taking

a full week off here. And like maybe there's more information about the injury than what we have. But what it looked like to me was Luca jammed his finger and got a little banged up in the Wolves game. But that happened early. And he absolutely fried those dudes the entire game. He made Jaden McDadeck. Like it was amazing because like a lot of what I anticipated surrounding the Wolves matchup involved things like Jaden can't guard Luca, which was abundantly clear in 2004, but it turns out Jaden could guard fat Luca. And then guess what? Skinny Luca was back and Jaden looked completely helpless, like absolutely completely helpless as Luca just fried him all over the floor. And then secondly, the importance of that four out spacing in the roll man from the center

position, which was how Luca beat the blitzes down the stretch when Minnesota went to the blitzes, which was not an option when it was Jackson Hayes. And so like, in a lot of ways, some of the like kind of conceptual things that I felt about Luca versus the wolves in the first round last year were like on display in this game in a way that they weren't because Luca's a lot thinner now and the Lakers actually can play a center. Now as we know, the wolves are a huge problem in the postseason in terms of their physicality. I'm not saying that that would flip the dynamic of the series. I'm just saying those are the basketball dynamics that I was thinking about when I was making my pick last year. Like whenever I've seen skinny Luca go against Jaden, Jaden looks absolutely

helpless, right? But like, he looked great, all game. And so what you're telling me is that in a stretch where the Lakers have six games and nine nights, five games this week, in a Western conference where if you drop a game or two, it could literally be like detrimental to you in the next phase of your, uh, of your season. Like, you could legitimately have to be digging out of the plan when you get to March that you would sit out. with a jammed finger and a leg bruise. It just, all I could think of was like, this is a guy that I've defended to a great extent over the course of the summer.

I ranked him second in my player rankings. And part of the reason why I'm like juxtaposing him with Shay and I'm juxtaposing him with Janice and I'm juxtaposing him with Nicole Yokic. And all I could think is, is like, if he's going to sit out with bumps and bruises and miss like chunks of five games with a jammed finger and a leg bruise, how does that not act as a demerit for him in the conversation with Shea or in the conversation with Janice or in the conversation with Nicole Yokic?

Now, I was texting some Lakers people and there's some there's some pontification that the Likers medical staff is behind this, that they're just being overly cautious. But all I could think is is like, why isn't Luka going up to these dudes and be like, we can't afford to be two and five next week. I need to play. I'm fine. Yeah, I'm a little banged up, but let's go get, let's go out there and compete and see if we can beat Portland. Let's see if we can go beat Sacramento. So like, all I'm saying is like, I was a little disappointed to find out that Luca was going to sit out for a week with a leg bruise and a jam finger. It just didn't seem, it was kind of like unbecoming of a 26 year old.

superstar at the peak of his powers that I believe is the second best player in the league for a team that frankly desperately needs him like nice win against Sacramento tonight but it's going to get tough this week Portland is a pain in the ass ask anybody who's played them yet this year they just beat that golden state warriors team that started two and oh it on a tail end of a back to back and they are athletic and they pressure the rim and they have rim protection and they like they're their pain is these are not going to be easy games to win and it just it just felt like an overly cautious approach. And like I said,

unbecoming for a player in that top tier of superstars. All right, quick thoughts on the bucks, and then we're going to get to my five most impressive teams to start the season. So I caught their entire game against Toronto, and I caught the end of their game against Cleveland. And they did drop that game against Cleveland.

It was a tough game. Like they, Donovan Mitchell showed some really impressive shot making in the middle of their zone defense. He had a couple of like super tough, like mid-range jump shots against great contests. And then Lonzo Ball hit a big three off the left wing. He had a big offensive rebound to down the stretch.

And they botched the coverage late and they left Sam Merrill wide open and he hit a shot. And it was just like kind of one of those things where the bucks had to use a ton of energy to come back from a large deficit. And they made some mistakes down the stretch and Cleveland ended up getting a win. But generally, I've been very impressed by Milwaukee. I thought they looked really good, especially in the Toronto game. They beat Washington in the first game, Washington obviously one of the bottom beaters of the NBA. but they beat Toronto and like Toronto was like a legit

physical monster of a team that is very good on defense that has a lot of athletes that can pack the paint that can run the floor and transition. They kick the shit out of Atlanta in their first game if you guys remember. And like Scotty Barnes, it was fun to watch. Scottie Barnes like had a play where he drove through Janice's chest and like knocked him over

and got a lay up. And straight up like got down in his face and like tried to show him up. further world to see. And Janus just like played it off and just whooped his ass. Janus was just absolutely phenomenal. In that game, I think he went for 30 and 20 against Toronto. But like,

the mainly what I noticed from my first kind of impressions of Milwaukee is they just make sense on both ends of the four. Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news? Huge news. We created our own podcast called. Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast. Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it.

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Listen to Deep Cover the Family Man on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Now, I've talked a lot before about how when you're, constructing lineups, you're trying to check all these responsibilities on the floor, right? Like, there's a certain amount on offense. You need a guy that can create advantages, right? You need an on-ball advantage creator, preferably one that can pressure the rim. And then off of that, you like to have a screening partner, preferably multiple, and then guys who can finish plays, finish sequences. So guys that can knock down shots that are open, guys that can drive closeouts

and make reeds, guys that can be vertical spacers. And one of the things that you kind of see that is a treat when you have Janus, one of the top tier superstars in this league, is Janus checks so many boxes on both ends of the floor. Obviously, he's this devastating on-ball weapon, but he's obviously, he's also a great screener. He's also a guy that can finish plays extremely well around the basket, who can clean up stuff on the offensive glass who can catch and finish as a cutter. I mean, hell, he hit two threes against Toronto, a couple big ones above the break. Like, he can do all these things on offense,

but then you go to the defensive end of the floor and it's the exact same thing, right? Like, he is like kind of in and of himself a great defensive rebounding foundation. He is in and of himself a great, like, rim protection foundation. And then you look at the other pieces they have and they kind of layer on each other, right? Like, like when you, you see Miles Turner and, and Janus playing together. And it just looks like a lot for an offense to deal with. Like one of the things I noticed, Miles had this play where he forced Brandon Ingram

into a huge miss in crunch time. Brandon turned over his right shoulder. And I can't remember who he was going against. But it wasn't Miles. Miles was in help. And Miles, like, made an impromptu, like, lunge forward to try to contest Brandon and covered a lot of ground and got a great contest.

Brandon has an awful miss and Miles like recovers back into the lane and gets the rebound. And all I could think of is like Brooke Lopez towards the end wasn't moving like that. He didn't have the he had the verticality element. He still was a decent rim protector when you could put him by the rim, but he didn't have that like forward back stop, stop, start mobility that Miles Turner has now. And so like Miles Turner like next to Janus is a really strong defensive foundation. they're 10th in defense to start the year.

And despite having a bunch of like smaller guards on the perimeter, they've been a decent rebounding team to start the year. And so again, you kind of look at it and it's like subbing in Ryan Rollins as like this athletic rim pressuring playmaker that competes and does a lot more defensively than Damian Lillard did. All of a sudden, like the team kind of makes sense in a lot of ways. You've got your legitimate pick and roll defender in Miles Turner that can come up to the level, but they can also run drop coverage. I can do a little bit of switching. Yonis is this devastating

low man on the back line and that constant give and take with him and Miles. Or when Miles is up, Janus is over. When Miles is back, Janus is on the perimeter. They've got this like natural kind of low man dynamic. AJ Green is like a legitimately good defender. And Ryan Rawlins is like a good athlete that competes defensively. Like Gary Trent is now your weakest defender in your starting group, as opposed to being the second weakest defender off of Damian Lillard. It just kind of like has more coherence on the defensive end of the floor. And then on the offensive end of the floor, same sort of thing.

They've surrounded Janus with shooting. They've been kind of trying to find this pick and roll player that they can fit alongside Yannis. And they've tried all these different guys. And Damon, in a lot of ways, wasn't a great fit because he was just so one speed and so pull-up jump-shot oriented that he struggled to get the ball to Janus in the pocket, right? But like, we saw Kevin Porter, Jr.

have some success by being more of like a kind of slow methodical pick-and-roll ball handler with Janus last year a little bit. But early in the season, like, I've really liked Ryan Rollins alongside Janus. I think his give and take with him. Feels really natural. He's aggressive without stepping on Janus's toes.

He's been one of their best, like, assist to turnover guys because he just keeps getting into the lane and like finishing in traffic, but making really high-level kickout reads. Like he's starting the offense from Milwaukee often. If the ball ends up in Gary Trent's hands, it feels like it's got a good chance to go in. The ball ends up in AJ Green's hands. It feels like it's got a good chance to go in.

Miles Turner, obviously, spacing five. It just makes sense. You've got a bunch of guys that can screen for Janus and score out of screens for Janus. You got a bunch of guys that can score and spot up. You've got this guard in Ryan Rollins that can attack when he's got the basketball. Dude, like, even Cole Anthony has brought like this dynamic rim pressure kickout element that has been really impressive.

And Cole had a ridiculous driving layup down the stretch against Toronto. Cole was just ridiculous against Toronto. He's awesome in that game. But like, they've just done a really nice job of finding complimentary discontory discontal. counted talent to surround Janice with. And credits Doc Rivers, I think he's done a really nice job of kind of like finding the right way to put the lineups together. And it all just makes sense to me. And it's not going to be perfect. And they're going to lose games. They dropped a game on the road in Cleveland today or yesterday. It's not going to be perfect. But like this, when I envisioned

Milwaukee as my 10th best team in the league as the team that I had that was at the top of the third tier. My case was, Janus is one of the very best players in the league. You know he's coming out for blood this year. And this team, this team is in an Eastern conference where most of these teams are pretty heavily

flawed. And I've just been, it's only a snap judgment here from three games, but to me, Milwaukee looks like the kind of team that's going to outkick their coverage, so to speak, and play above their on-paper talent, because everybody just slots together really well here in the early part of the season.

All right, before we get out of here today, the five most impressive teams from the first week of the NBA season. Starting with San Antonio Spurs. Three and O' start wins against Brooklyn, New Orleans, and Dallas. Dallas was obviously the dominant performance we saw on Wednesday night that we covered. If you guys remember, we just absolutely humiliated Anthony Davis. We talked about that at the night of the game. New Orleans is a really impressive come from behind victory. They were down eight in the third quarter on the road, and Dylan Harper had like a super,

nice burst in that third quarter to get them back, got to the room a few times, ended up hitting a three, got them back in the game. They went on to win in overtime. And then Brooklyn kind of looked like it was going to be a very professional victory for a serious team against a bad team, but then Brooklyn punched back. And they actually took a fourth quarter lead. They ended up getting 40 from Cam Thomas in that game. And I thought the Spurs played some excellent late game offense. They were posting up Wemby and drawing double teams and getting buckets out of that. There was a really impressive sequence where they posted up Wemby on the left block and Kelden Johnson like faked like he was going to run through to the opposite side and then just

quick turn and made himself available. Wemby hit him and he got right in the lane and finished. They ran a bunch of two-man game with both Steph Castle and Wemby as well as Devin Vassell in Wembe and those guys were getting to the basket or excuse me, Dylan Harper and Wembe. Those guys were getting to the basket. That like dynamic, big athletic guard like Steph Castle or Dylan Harper with Wemby rolling alongside of him, it's causing problems for teams. Like, they're getting to the basket and getting really good looks out of those actions. And like, it's just unusual to see a young team to run really good late game offense, but they just ran really good late game offing offense against Brooklyn and got awesome looks. Layups for

Steph Castle, layups for Dylan Harper, layup for Kelton Johnson off of a Wemby post up. Just really nice stuff to start the season, uh, from a younger group. that you wouldn't expect to see like that. Wembe in his first three games has averaged 33 points and 13 rebounds with 6.7 stocks per game. On 64% true shooting, just completely outrageous. He's cut down on his three point volume, and as a result, he's somehow become more efficient, which is very rare because three point volume is the way to achieve, like, large sample efficiency for a lot of these players.

and it's because he's shooting 80% at the rim, and he's shooting 60% on short twos inside a 17 feet. That's a big part of that, like, more reliable scoring that we've been talking about with him. And then all three of the young guards have been fantastic. Harper has shown a remarkable ability to get to the rim as a driver-cutter and crasher. Dylan Harper early on has the fourth-most total made field goals

at the rim in the entire league, tied for four. He has 15 layups already. He's just going to be so awesome. He's big. He's athletic. He's physical. He's scrappy. I just think he projects to be an awesome two-way player in the league.

Super impressive debut for Dylan Harper. Devin Vassell is shooting the damn seams off the basketball. And it's been up and down for Steph Castle. He's had some turnover issues and he's still not shooting the ball super well from three. But he's been very dynamic and he's been a big crunch time option for them. He had a big pull-up three to force overtime against New Orleans. and then he had a huge driving layup to help close the deal against Brooklyn.

Looking at their team-wide metrics, they have a 120 offensive rating. That's awesome. 105 defensive rating. That's awesome. They're grabbing 56% of available rebounds. That's awesome. Although they did have a little bit of an issue

on the defensive glass late in the game against Brooklyn. They got lucky that Cam Thomas missed a couple of the wide open threes that came off of those sequences. 38 points in the paint allowed per game. That's incredible. Really the only thing that, I can point to as a significant negative here in the early part is they're turning the ball over a lot and they're giving up a lot of transition points off of those turnovers.

But other than that, just a super impressive start for the San Antonio Spurs. Secondly, the Oklahoma City Thunder. Also 3 and O here in the early going wins over Houston, Indiana, and Atlanta. Super impressive when you consider the injuries. No Jalen Williams. That's their second best ball handler and second best player overall, especially important for a team that's light on ball handling even when they're healthy. SGA's been just completely incredible.

He's averaging 40.6 rebounds and five assists in the early going. There's been a lot of conversation about his sky high free throw attempts. I think he had, what, 40 free throws in his first two games, if I remember correctly. And I actually haven't had a problem with it. Like, there's been a handful of plays in there that were a little grifty, that were a little over the top. But like, like, for the most part, it feels like he's getting to the line with drives and pump bakes. And again, like, I've complained about Shea's free throws in the past. mostly juxtaposed with the way the team is allowed to defend on the other end of the floor.

But I've really only had one gripe and it's non-basketball plays. That's where I have an issue is non-basketball plays. You know what basketball play? You know what is a basketball play? Driving to the basket and getting hacked. You know what is a basketball play? Turning like you're going to shoot and pump-baking and the guy leaving his feet and then you're shooting. That's a basketball play.

Those are your normal basketball moves. And again, there have been a handful of grifts mix in there, but for the most part, to me, just ethically barbecuing dudes to get to the foul line. I haven't had a problem with it. And essentially, as far as I'm concerned, the team has desperately needed him to scale up his offense because of how limited they've been with the injuries. And all he's done is do so, average 40 against very good teams, and he's three and oh. MVP level stuff from Shea. Chet had a rough shooting night against Indiana. He was missing his three-point shot, but he had six threes against Atlanta. He's now at 42 percent from three.

on six attempts per game through his three games. Lou Dord has been downright destructive on defense. Once again, as a team, they're leading the league in points off of turnovers with 26 per game, while only allowing 16 the other way. It's like they're starting every game with a 10-0 lead just in points off turnovers. AJ Mitchell and Aaron Wiggins have both had big moments on offense to help carry the load at various points. They were amazing in Indiana.

Really the only statistical gripe I have with them here in the early going is their defensive rebounding. but that's been an issue forever, and they keep winning in spite of it. They look poised to make a run at a 70-win season. I think it's like a legitimate possibility for them. Number three, kind of a shocker here. The Philadelphia 76ers, 2-0 with a couple wins against Charlotte and Boston. Really impressive performances across the board.

Obviously, VJ Edgecombe has this brilliant game one, but I thought he was pretty good against Charlotte as well. Like, he didn't quite have the offensive game, but he had this insane close-out attack off of the right corner and crunch time. He rips the close out to his right shoulder. He rips middle and just elevates in traffic and goes up and under and finishes a huge playing crunch time of that game. He had four stocks in that game as well. Quinn Grimes had 24 versus Charlotte hit the biggest shot of the game, beating nail help with the three off of the right wing.

And then Tyrus Max, he's been one of the best guards in the league here in the early part of the season. He's just shooting the shit out of the basketball, getting wherever he wants to go with his speed. And I've been really impressed with his floor game, just taking easy. reads all over the floor. Like the kick to Grimes that I'm talking about. Like Grimes is on the right wing. His man is sinking all the way down into the lane. And instead of forcing it, we're trying to do too much. Tyrese just throws a swing past to Quentin Grimes, Quentin Grimes makes him pay. And I thought it was really interesting juxtapose with the way that game was going. Because, you know, I'm sure a lot of people saw the debate surrounding the late shot that La Melle Ball took.

Ty game. I can't remember. It was like a minute left. And he took a just really difficult, like, step back, 30-footer off the left wing. And it always looks a little bit more corny with Lamello because he shoots it kind of like off of one foot. And Lamello's, by the way, having a ridiculous start to the season. He had like 37, 13 and 13 tonight against Washington just or last night. It's just a ridiculous game. But like that game down the stretch against Philly, all of the Charlotte guards were just taking difficult shots. Like it wasn't just Lamello. Lamello missed that step back, but like, trade. Trey

Trey man missed like a couple of easy or like kind of like easy reads where he just was taking tough shots in the middle of the floor. Colin Sexton had an identical play to the Quentin Grimes play. Colin Cinnipples on the right wing. Colin Sexton's isoing off of the left wing. Con canipals man is dug way down

into the lane and help. And instead of just, I think it was Tyrese Maxie, and instead of throwing the kickout pass to wide open con canipple for the three, Colin just jackingle. up a contested 20 footer and missed it. It's the exact same read that on the other side of the floor, Tyrese had and made the read and Quinn Grimes knocked down the wide open shot. And so in the early going of the season here, Tyrese is taking really good care of the basketball.

He's racking up assists. It's just really high quality floor game from him coupled with elite shot making and his speed just getting him wherever he wants to get to on the floor. Andre Drummond had an absolutely brilliant second half against Charlotte, just completely dominated the glass on both ends, had a huge tip dunk late that like blew the lid off the arena. Kelly Ubre was great again. He did some great work off the bounce. He created his own shot for buckets like three times in that game.

And I know it hasn't looked perfect with Embed, and his complete inability to protect the rim is a big part of why they can't guard when he's on the floor. Like he's just straight up not protecting the rim. But it was kind of cool as a fan to see him score 20 points and 20 minutes. against Charlotte and make it look super easy. Just with all of the same high-end shot making, that was

a staple of his when he was at his peak. It's just a really fun Sixers team that is loaded with dynamic playmakers on the perimeter. And I think they have a decent shot to compete night to night in the east with all those guards. And like, that's with them getting nothing from Paul George and Joel Embed. It can only go up from there

with those two guys. So like, again, like there's a question to be had. like when you've got Jabari Walker, you've got these forwards that are like flying around and grabbing rebounds and just doing work as hustle guys. Paul George is going to be a very different counter to that style. But like I think it can only go up from there. Right.

Like if you get anything from those guys, it's a bonus at this point. Next, Golden State Warriors. They dropped a tough game on the road in Portland and the tail end of a back-to-back. Steph looked great, but the rest of the group looked flat. Portland has had a lot of guys. that can get to the basket here early in the season

and that Golden State defense was just getting shredded by drives and in transition. Something to keep an eye on when the Warriors play some more athletic teams down the line, but I'm not going to overreact to a tail end of a back-to-back kind of game like that. I thought they looked super impressive in their wins versus the Lakers and Nuggets.

They looked way better on both ends of the floor than I expected them to. They didn't look slow and old. They looked athletic and smart. They didn't look as Steph dependent on offense as I expected them to. although they were certainly happy to take 16 straight from him at the end of the Denver game. But Jimmy's been able to provide scoring.

Kaminga has looked like a guy that's becoming more comfortable in Golden State system. Dremont is also shooting the ball extremely well to start the year. The Portland game showed some issues that we were aware of before the season, if you guys remember. We talked about how they were a little light on overall talent. They're especially light on scoring talent. But I don't know how you could possibly be a Warriors fan and not be more excited about the team now.

than you were a month ago when comminga wasn't signed, and they looked like one of the teams in that mediocre middle tier of the Western Conference playoff. Lastly, the Miami Heat. Two and one to start the year. It'd be three and oh. They didn't blow a late lead against Orlando. And I was watching their game against New York today, yesterday I should say.

And I found them to be really fun to watch. Not having Tyler Harrow has caused them to not be as predictable with like their two-man game as they were last year. They're not spamming a lot of the same thing. They're just relentlessly attacking. They're playing at one of the most hellacious paces in the league. All they're doing is every single time they have an opportunity, they're throwing a kick ahead pass and they're hitting gaps. Like they bludgeoned New York in the second half of this game with just attacks from Jaime Hakez and Simone Fatechio and Nikola Yovich. Just like push the ball up the floor while the defense is still in semi

transition and they're not set, just attack the gap and play basketball off of it. They're spacing the floor well and they're making good reads there. And then when things slowed down in that game against New York, like shout out to Jaime Hawkes. He was cooking them. He was doing work in the post and doing work and pick and roll attacking the basket. Just a really nice piece of shot creation in that second half from Jaime Hawkes. But like they're just pushing the ball with up the floor with pace, attacking gaps, and playing basketball off of it. I found it really fascinating because, like, we learned last year from Indiana with the Pacers that if you move the ball and you play fast and you make good reads and you have guys who can

finish plays off of those advantages, you're going to win a lot of games. That's what Indiana taught us. Play on the margins. Live in transition when you can't. Push, push, push, push, because we're going to be more efficient there. And so I'm not the least bit surprised than one of the smartest organizations in the league and the guy that I think is the best coach in the NBA and Eric Spolstra has adopted a lot of that

over the course of the summer. The Miami Heat are averaging 39 transition points per game per synergy so far. It's the second most in the entire NBA behind Portland. Just a crazy stat. Their third in net rating to start the year because they're third in defense

and they're getting out in transition off of those stops and they're getting enough offense because they're getting 39 points in transition per game. One other shot for them too, even the best jump shooting team in the league here in the early part of the season. They're getting 1.17 points per shot, which is number one in the NBA

through the first week of games. Really, really, like of all the teams that I've watched to start the season, the heat have been playing one of the more fun brands of basketball that I've seen. I really enjoyed watching them today. Kind of exposed a New York team that looked really sloppy in transition to. It's another story for another day.

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