The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hoops Tonight -Will LeBron & Lakers make a trade? Will Steph & Warriors go all-in?

Episode Date: January 14, 2023

Jason Timpf answers the NBA's six biggest questions at the midseason point. Will LeBron James and the Los Angeles Lakers or Steph Curry's Golden State Warriors make a championship worthy move at the trade deadline? Are Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving, and the Brooklyn Nets contenders or pretenders? And will the NBA-leading Boston Celtics stay hot throughout the entire season? #volume #herdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Happy Saturday, everybody. Congrats on making it to the weekend. By the time you listen to this, I will actually be skiing on the store. slopes of Mount Humphreys in Flagstaff, Arizona. Very, very excited to get my skis on snow finally this year. Today we're going to be hitting six burning questions for the second half of the NBA season. Good opportunity for us to hit on a bunch of topics on some of the better teams near the top of the league. You guys know the drill before we get started.

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But we also have the NFL playoffs starting this weekend. My hot take for this NFL playoff run is I think the Dallas Cowboys are going to get beat by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And then I think the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are going to get absolutely destroyed the following week. But that's just me as a pessimistic Cowboys fan. But we also got basketball, we got college hoops heating up, and we have the NBA as we head out of football season and into their next four months dominating the sports schedule. So obviously I'd like to watch all of these games, but how about we get out of the house and go see some of these games in person? I want you guys to check out Game Time, the fastest growing ticketing app in the United States. Game Time offers amazing last-minute deals to all your favorite NBA, NFL, NHL, and NCAA teams.

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One, the league is wide open. And for the record, these stats and standings that I'm reading are recorded as of Wednesday. As those you guys who've been listening know, I went out of town on Friday to go up to Flagstaff to ski. So that's when I'm recording this and that's when these stats are current. As of Wednesday, the top eight teams in the league are all separated by just four games. The Celtics, the Nuggets, the Nets, the Grizzlies, the Bucks, the 76ers, the Cavs, and the Pelicans, all just four games apart. Then the next 14 teams are all just four games apart. So the Pacers, the Mavs, the Kings, the Knicks, the Heat, the Clippers, the Suns, the Warriors, the Timberwolves, the Jazz, the Hawks, the Blazers, the Bulls, and the Lakers, all just four games apart.

So there are 22 teams right now in the NBA that can conceivably convince themselves that they have a real chance to go on a run and end up near the top of the pile in the standings and have a chance to win this thing. So that is factor number one. Factor number two is there seems to be more available trade targets this year than I can remember in recent NBA history.

There are a lot of teams that are likely to become sellers. When you're in a bunch like that of 22 teams, yeah, there are going to be teams that I think will be like, hey, we can go get this thing, let's go after it. But I also think there will be teams that will pull out and try to see the opportunity to move into the lottery. Because if there's 22 teams that are relatively close to the top, that means there's only eight teams really competing for those lottery spots. And you could see some teams pull out pretty quickly. For instance, the Utah Jazz. A lot of good players there that could be had.

Jordan Clarkson, a good backup ball handler. Interesting guy that I'd like to see someone like Dallas go after. for instance. Mike Conley, similar type of deal. Rudy Gay is an inexpensive wing for somebody who just needs someone who's 6-8 and can do some stuff off the bench. Malik Beasley for shooting. Go to Charlotte. There's Terry Rozier. Jalen McDaniels is

floating around in trade rumors. P.J. Washington, Kelly Ubre, they're a good spot if you just need a bench wing or something along those lines. Detroit is probably going to trade Boyan Bogdanovich at some point before we get to the deadline. Washington, Washington and Chicago in particular are two teams that

a couple more losses before the deadline and you could see them trying to consider blow things up, blowing things up. That's Kyle Kuzma and Bradley Beale and Christaps Porzingis potentially being available. That's Zach Levine and Nicola Vucevic, maybe even DeMorosven, being available. So there's tons of quality NBA players that could be significant ceiling raisers for good teams that could probably be available this year. And 22 teams that are conceivably in range of trying to make a run at this thing. So what that means is, I think that it's very likely that we have at least one, if not multiple teams, that view this as an opportunity to push their chips in.

Now, for the record, that's my favorite ideology as it pertains to roster building. And there's three reasons why. One, razor-thin margins. The difference between the best team in the league and the 22nd best team in the league is smaller than it's ever been. When you get into a playoff series in a seven-game series, you know, a player here, a player there could be the difference between you winning and losing. When you're dealing with razor-thin margins, talent does matter. And influx of talent could be the difference between you losing in the second round

or getting the trophy at the end of the day. Secondly, playoff matchup flexibility. When you get a specific player to address a need, let's say if it's a bench big for a team like Golden State, a shooting wing for a team like the Lakers, a physical wing for the team like the Miami Heat, a backup ball handler for a team like the Dallas Mavericks. All of that gives you additional flexibility in a playoff series in the chess match.

It's like putting an additional piece on the board. It increases your options when you're in that setting and you need a move to counter a move that your opponent has made. And last but not least, I think a lot of teams around the league overvalue draft picks. You know, the Lakers are obsessed with their 2027 and 2029 first round pick. And the reality is, all it really takes is one bad season or two bad seasons, taking on other teams bad contracts to recoup draft assets. And then cap space in general is worth less than ever

because teams are just resigning players because players want the financial security and then they work out deals for trades after the fact. So draft picks are just not all that important to me. If you see a two or three year window to go for it, I'm all about spending your draft picks to go for it there because then there can be a two or three year reset window where you recoup those draft assets and then that can be your cycle.

personally, in my opinion, that's the best way to go about trying to win in the modern NBA. So I'm a big believer in pushing chips in. So one of these teams is going to say, screw it, make a splashy deal at the deadline. It's just a question of who. The specific teams that I think are most likely are the Mavericks, the Lakers, and the heat, because those are all teams that have excellent high-end star power that need to fix specific personnel weaknesses. So I expect them to be aggressive. We went over those potential deals yesterday for the MAVs.

I'd be looking at someone like a Jordan Clarkson or Terry Rozier. For the Lakers, I'd be looking at someone like Kyle Kuzma or Boyan-Beddonovich. And for the heat, I'd be looking at someone like Jay Crowder or Oge and Nobi because they need someone a little bit more physical. But other teams I keep an eye on like Brooklyn, it's really thin physically on the wing. Perimeter size is kind of an issue for them. So what if Brooklyn got someone like Kyle Kuzma? That'd be super interesting.

The other team I'd be looking at is what about the Phoenix Suns? You know, what if they take Chris Paul for salary fill? and a bunch of draft picks with like Cam Johnson as an interesting young player and went to Washington and said, give us Bradley Beale. And let's go out this with Devin Booker and Bradley Beale, McHale Bridges and DeAndre Aiton. There's going to be someone that gets wacky at this deadline. I'm just genuinely curious to see who it's going to be. Everyone needs to get better and that's the best way to do it within the season.

All right. Question number two. Can Milwaukee fix their offense? The bucks are just four and six in their last 10 games. as of Wednesday. They're dead last in offensive rating over that span, scoring just 106.9 points per 100 possessions. On the season, they are just 23rd and half-court offense.

So I attribute the Buc's offensive struggles to three things. One, spot-up shooting. They are 19th and spot-up points per possession. Big part of that is Chris Middleton being out, Joe Engel's missing the first chunk of the season with rehabbing his injury, and Drew Holliday, who's been in and out of the lineup all year long. Number two, they're not running nearly enough in transition. That's always been a huge part of the Bucks offense last year.

Only the Grizzlies ran more frequently than the Bucks. They ran on 19% of their possessions last year. So almost a fifth of their offense came in transition last year. This year, they're a middle-of-the-pack transition frequency team. They only run on 16.6% of their possessions, which ranks 13th in the NBA. So they're not getting out of the half-court frequently enough to generate higher-quality offense to supplement their offense.

the 23rd half-court offense, you've got to be looking to run more frequently than that. And then third, lastly, Janus's perimeter shooting. Yonis has been the best rim finisher in the league this year, but he only takes about 55% of his shots at the rim. So that means that 45% of his shots are taken away from the rim. So he's taken 322 shots outside of the restricted area this year, and he's only made 86 of them. That's 26.7%. Now, As you guys know, as we've talked about Janus, I don't think Janus needs a reliable perimeter jump shot as it pertains to the ceiling of the team when they're all healthy, because I think his combination of relentless rim pressure and his ability to pass the

basketball is a perfectly fine counter to what he does in the paint. But when the personnel has dipped below a certain point with Chris Middleton being out, with your holiday being out a lot, now it's at a crisis point, and Janus's inability to make perimeter jump shots has stopped him from being able to elevate the team anyway. So I don't think it necessarily matters as far as we evaluate Janus, but I do think his inability to knock down those shots has been part of the reason why their offense hasn't been very good within this season.

Now here's the silver lining. When Janus is on the court with Joe Ingalls, they've now played together 232 possessions, which is a decent chunk. And in those possessions, the Bucks have an offensive rating of 124, which is amazing. That's how just adding one competent spot-up player and one guy that can do some stuff off the dribble has completely reinvigorated their offense.

So now add Chris Middleton to that when he gets into a rhythm, add a healthy Drew Holiday to that. It starts to get really exciting. Looking at Joe Engels real quick, he's been a legit secondary ball handler for them. When Joe shoots or passes out of pick and roll this year, the Bucks have scored 67 points on 59 possessions. That's 1.14 points per possession.

There are 171 players in the league that have run at least 50 pick and rolls this year, and Joe Ingalls is 18th in efficiency on those plays. So my answer to the question, can the Bucks fix their offense, is yes. I think Joe Ingalls and Chris Middleton will give Yannis the help he needs to get the offense back on track, and I actually expect the Bucks to be excellent the rest of the season, and I wouldn't be surprised if they had the best record over from here towards the end of the season. All right. The third question, can Denver fix their defense? The buckets are seventh in defense over their last 15 games, which is encouraging.

But for the season, they're 22nd in defensive rating. They are dead last in transition defense, according to cleaning the glass. And when playing against the top 10 point differential teams in the league. So when the nuggets play the top 10 teams in the league, they are 24th in defensive rating. That's also according to cleaning the glass. So my answer to Can Denver fix their defense is no. I think they're capable of manufacturing a facsimile of a passable defense for stretches during the regular season just by competing really hard and by running a smart scheme. But the reality of their predicament is that their best lineup features three average to below average defensive players. And two of them in particular, Michael Porter Jr. and Nicola Yochitz really struggle guarding in space and in transition, which is a big part of why they are the worst transition team in the league.

So inevitably, there's no fix for that. There's no trade for that. Those are your best players. They have to be on the court. When we get into April and May, teams are going to find a way to target them, and it's going to be a problem. The better question is,

will Denver's offense be good enough to overcome that? And right now I'm inclined to say no, but I still view them as a contender, so I do think it's a chance that they can overcome that. But NBA history has just told us too many times that if you can't get stops, you can't win, and it's a personnel issue, but it's a personnel associated with their best players. So it's not like you're about to start trading them or benching them in favor of defensive-minded players.

It's just kind of a flaw in the roster construct at this point. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds.

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podcasts. All righty. Next question. Does Golden State go all in at the deadline? Now, for the record, I think the Warriors are mostly fine. They have some personnel weaknesses. Like I said before, I think they could use a backup big. think they could use a backup a wing.

But it's not anything that their core players can't overcome, and I think the vast majority of their problems are associated with effort. And all the metrics show that. You can see that in their road home splits, and mainly just in big games. And specific settings, when they've really needed to be great, they've been great in defense and in rebounding, and in all of those things that they've struggled in

as they've racked up losses, particularly on the road. So I think this is just a case of really bad championship malaise. not particularly worried about it. But the question is, does Golden State go all in in terms of trades at the deadline? And it's kind of, my answer is split because I believe they should, but I don't think they will. The case to push all your chips in is that the top tier contenders are all better than last year. Milwaukee will have Chris Middleton and Joe Ingalls. They did not last year. Brooklyn is a much better contender this year than some of the options that we had last year. And then Boston, with the addition of Malcolm Brogden and the improvements of Jalen Brown and Jason

Tatum, they're better than they were last year. Now, the West is still wide open, but the challenge waiting for the Warriors in the finals is going to be very tough. And so I think making a move with the young players for a legit backup big and a legit backup wing just gives you a much better chance to succeed in those environments. And again, let's just make it, for the sake of argument, let's just make it a simple math equation. Let's say that, you know, turns out that you get to the NBA finals and you're 97% good enough to beat the Milwaukee Bucks at full strength or the Brooklyn Nets or the Boston Celtics. It'd be really unfortunate at that point that you didn't make that trade to where you have that slight edge over your opponent. Again, the idea here is razor-thin margins. And when you

have razor-thin margins, pushing your chips in actually could be the difference between you losing and winning. So again, that's just always been my take. Don't like multiple timelines, don't like planning for the future. In the NBA, quick rebuilds are possible. I would push chips in the middle. But I have a feeling that Joe Lacup is more pessimistic about this. I would imagine that he kind of views it more negatively as if like the window is closing and his players are getting old. There's been some weird quotes about there. There was a quote from Joe Ingalls the other day that was like, yeah, we'll always have Steph, Clay, and Dre as long as they're playing at a high level, which is basically just a fancy way of saying we'll get rid of them

when they're not good anymore. So I would imagine Joe Lacob kind of used the young players more as the future and less as assets. So again, I would push all my chips in, but I don't actually expect the Warriors to do so. All right, are the Nets, contenders or pretenders? I think this is probably one of the things that a lot of people disagree with me about. I have Kevin Durant as an MVP of the league at this point at the season ended today, and I think the Nets are a top-tier championship contender. I would venture to guess that about half of you probably disagree about the MVP thing, and more than half of you probably disagree as it pertains to the championship contender piece just because of all the things that have gone wrong with the Nets over the year. So I want to just point out three

reasons why I believe the Nets are a bona fide top-tier championship contender. Number one is playoff execution. The Nets are third and half-court offense and second in half-court defense. So they're top three in the static half-court environment on both ends of the floor. In the static half-court environment, which is mostly what you face in the playoffs because of scouting and just better transition defense, that's where games are decided. And the Nets are great at both ends of the floor in that setting. Secondly, they are an excellent clutch team.

The Nets are a league best 16-3 in games that involve clutch situation. So any time a game was within five, with five or fewer minutes left, the Nets won 16 out of 19 of them. They're outscoring teams by 28 points per 100 possessions in those clutch situations. Most playoff games are close, and the Nets are great at winning close games. And then three, KD is the best basketball player that I've seen this season, within this regular season, obviously, which is a different conversation. I also think KD has the most to gain by winning.

if you really think about what his career resume is, his only two championships are with that Warriors team. In the court of public opinion, most people view those championships as less valuable than others. By winning one in Brooklyn, it kind of changes the entire dynamic of his career resume. Now he's a three-time champ, and it adds legitimacy to what happened in Golden State

because you've seen him win without Steph and the Warriors. So I just think he's extremely motivated, has a lot to gain by it. And when I really zoom out from that, They're a great half-court team. They're an excellent defensive team. They are excellent in late-game situations, and they have a guy that I think is playing better basketball than anybody right now.

That's enough to make you a top-tier contender. They do still have flaws. They rely heavily on pull-up shooting, so when those shots don't fall, it could be problematic. See the Celtic series last year. They're also thin on the perimeter from a physicality standpoint. And so, you know, I worry about them in specific matchups against very strong teams, teams like Boston.

but every team has issues. So I absolutely think that Brooklyn is a contender and a top-tier contender that has the same type of chance to win as Golden State or Boston or Milwaukee. All right, last question. Will the Boston Celtics keep their foot on the gas? So this time last year was when Boston really went on their run.

As a matter of fact, if you take the last half of last year, so the last 41 games of last year, and the first half of this year, so the first 41 games of this year, they are 60 and 22. So there are 60 win team over the course of their last full season's worth of games. They've also won three playoff series during that span, and they had a 2-1 lead during the finals.

So they've proven themselves over an extended stretch to be a highly capable offense and defense at every single level, except for the NBA finals. So the question, will Boston keep their foot on the gas? I answer no from the standpoint of the regular season, I think they're content now to just kind of float along, and every once in a while, whoop someone's ass to prove they can still do it.

And you can see that in their recent schedule in the way that they've played. The Celtics are just eight and seven in their last 15 games, but they have massively impressive wins over that stretch. They beat the Lakers. They beat the Milwaukee Bucks. They beat the Los Angeles Clippers. They beat the Dallas Mavericks.

They demoralize the Mavericks. And they beat that Bulls team the other night. That was playing extremely well. So I view the Celtics as more of a switch flipping team now, which is fine for the record. Like nothing could change my opinion of Boston either way. Like they could lose 10 in a row right now and I'd be like they're just messing around. You know, they could win 20 in a row right now and I'd still be like, yeah, but can they do it against the Warriors?

You know what I mean? So like Boston to me is purely established. All of this is just dress rehearsal for the late rounds of the playoffs. And their biggest enemy is themselves and their ability to execute on the offensive end when the stakes are highest. and the only way that they can prove that is to overcome those shortcomings at the highest level in the NBA finals. I think they're the best roster in the league. I think if they do overcome that individual problem, that they will win the trophy. That's the type of talent that they have on the roster. It's right there. They just have to go do it. All right, guys, that is all I have for today.

As always, I sincerely appreciate your support. I hope you guys enjoy the rest of the weekend, and I will be back on Monday. podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends, me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform?

We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential.

Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win.

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This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to the Clifford show on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok podcast network on TikTok.

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