The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - 4th of July Recap

Episode Date: July 7, 2025

LaVar Arrington and Jonas Knox fill-in on The Herd, recapping their 4th of July shenanigans. Justin Fields has the opportunity to make Aaron Rodgers and Mike Tomlin look really bad. Plus, a pair of heated rivalries in sports and much more! #2ProsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You can listen to this show on the IHartRadio app. You can also find us on hundreds of affiliates all across the country as we take you all the way up until 3 p.m. Eastern Time, noon Pacific time here, on the Monday after a wild 4th of July weekend. What do you mean? A wild pre-

a while pre-show meeting of the minds. And I mean, we could have did a three-hour show on the industry, you know, behind the scenes storylines. I mean, they're really dozy. Yeah, it's definitely. It's the Celsius. I blame Celsius. I love y'all's drinks, though, by the way.

It is, it's been a, how was the Fourth of July weekend, huh? It was good, man. Because here's the, it's on a weekend. It started on a Friday. So you just gave people an excuse to get butchered for two days after. If you want to hear the wildest story, so we got a rooftop lounge on my house, right? So we go upstairs, everything, well, it must not be. We were up there, we're hanging out, and the way it's set up, you can't see us up there.

So if something's going on up there, you can maybe hear it possibly, or if you do something like, say we were to shoot fireworks off or something like that, you might have an eye. idea that okay they can get up on the roof whatever right but it's a balcony it's a it's a rooftop lounge so we go up there and we have one of those we have a a safe portable fire pit fire pit gets lit up but here's what here's the problem the girls go up to do it and they put five door of flames on there five so you got this big ass flame and the flame was giving off black smoke right so we We're sitting up there. We're listening to music.

We're having a good time. We can see all of the fireworks from the piers in the Beach City, South Bay, all the way out to wherever. Orange County. You can just see all of the fireworks going off. So we're watching the fireworks. And I'm like, man, these firemen are going and the police are going to have a busy night because you can see the random fireworks going up, right? Which, by the way, fireworks in L.A. is really a thing, bro. Oh, my God.

I heard fireworks. from 9 a.m. Literally nonstop until I went to sleep at like 2 a.m. in the morning. Yeah, white people light fireworks off during the day. I mean, it was the entire day. All you heard was

the whole day. Anyway, back to my point. So the fire's going up and I'm like, man, firemen, cops, they're going to have to run around because you know, you make these wildfires, this, that and the other. We're not even thinking about. And sure enough, you see a fire engine come out.

Fire engine comes out. Da-da-da, boom, boom. I'm like, oh, man, you hear some fireworks going off in our area. So it's like the firemen come up in our area. And it's like they turn the lights off, but they're coming up in the area. The next thing you know, they get up and they're like one street away from us. I was like, man, they're right here. Something going on, right?

Then I looked at our fire pit. I was like, this fire is high. They drive past the street So I'm thinking they're about to go past the street They turn the lights on Turn the lights on Turn down our street I was like yep they come in here

I had to go down to the front Grab grab grab and they were really Cool I'm big time you know Support of First Responders I appreciate Redondo Beach fire department Really really cool people So I walk them in we walk up They look at it they're like man

Everything's cool he's like but your neighbors are freaking out They are freaking out I go look over the edge and I see a whole crowd of people in two, three yards looking up at our house. That bad boy was burning down. So anyways, we put it out, but that was an eventful deal. And in your mind, we live in a day and age with cell phones that can record now. I didn't want to record it because anything shady might have happened.

Like, oh, get it on. This is on camera. Da, da, da. But it would have been interesting to see a camera shot of the fire engine pulling down our street. Then the fire department coming into the crib. Then us having a cool conversation up on the rooftop and then them leaving. That would have been cool because that's never happened to me before ever. So there you go.

Emergency crew first responders came to make sure the house wasn't burning down. You know what blows my mind? The number of people that decide knowing all the warning, signs, knowing all the dangers, seeing all the injuries, seeing all that, and still being like, I got it this year. I got it. Don't worry.

Let's fire off four or five mortar bombs within close proximity to somebody's house, children, and cars and just see what happens. We weren't doing that, by the way. But in L.A., everybody was. Yeah, they were. I mean, from 9 a.m., literally, from 9 a.m. to 1.m. it was non

like I'm not it is not an over exaggeration to say it was nonstop you could hear the fireworks going off nonstop from 9 to 1 a.m. So growing up in Southern California and Tewy might remember this

but it used to be if you wanted to get fireworks you had to go to a place called Fillmore. Then you have to go somewhere out in the boonies right? You got to go to Fillmore. You got to drive all the way inland to the small town of Philmore. By the way, El Pasquador, a great Mexican spot out there.

But that was the place. If somebody told you, hey, I'm going to Fillmore. It's like, ooh, hey, bring me back a Roman candle, like a box of Piccolo Pete. It was like this undercover under the radar spot that you would go to get fireworks now. Now it seems like you can get them anywhere. Somebody's got like a trunk. Then they're selling fireworks out of them. Like there's some rock band trying to make it in the business selling T-shirts out of the back of their car.

It's crazy how that works. You get fireworks, rocket launchers, grenade launchers. I don't understand. Oozies. It used to be really hard to get a hold of these things. And nowadays, you can, hey, right there, there you go. There's some fireworks right there. Like, over the weekend, I was talking Isaac Lohenkron, who's an anchor here at Fox Sports Radio.

And Isaac was telling me, he said, oh, yeah, we have fireworks alley. I was like, what's that? He goes, oh, yeah, it's an alley near our place, and people light off fireworks there. And he sent me a video. I'm like, oh, you mean all this illegal activity on video? You mean all that? He said, no, no, no. Sheriff came by and said, hey, you guys are good.

Enjoy your Fourth of July. What? Wait, what? That's just all of a sudden allowed? But apparently, that's what Fourth of July is turned into. I will say some of the dopest fireworks shows, one is in State College. The one they do at Beaver Stadium, it's like connected and in sync with like music. It's pretty dope, man.

Like, if you're able to go to a fireworks show that's like really a show, like even the one at Disney, they do every night. Yeah. Oh, that's with the lasers and the fireworks and all that. Crazy, man. When you can do it, when somebody's doing it right, I've never got any type of a rush or any type of a crazy feeling with, with fireworks. I'd just rather watch them. It's never been a thing where I'm like,

I gotta light this bad bonus mother after up! Let's do it! Like, that's just never been my thing. I don't know. I mean, I don't know why that is, but some people really, really get off on letting off on those fireworks. They love seeing the, they lighten the fuse. It's like, dude, Augusta win, that thing tilts over,

and points in the direction of either other fireworks or somebody, and we've got a problem. Yeah. That's all the take. You've seen it all on social media where the joints go in a different direction, went into the garage, start blowing the garage up, hit the card and blew the car up,

hitting kids, like hit family members. Like, what are you doing? Like, yes. What are you doing? Like, I always tell this story, but I remember reading about this. There were some dude in Maine, him and his buddy were out in a field somewhere,

like, I won't be safe. You know, there's no property within the distance. So we've got some. And the guy thought it would be a good idea to take a mortar bomb, put it on his head, and then light it. What? Here's how the ending of that story went. He wasn't going to lids anytime soon. I'll put it that way.

Okay. What are you doing? I don't understand. How do you think that was going to end? There was a couple dudes that was lighting them and then squatting on top of them. And then it took off like. Like that right there. And the captions, the captions be off the chain, like, like, in my stomach, like, get in my belly.

And you know what they were talking about. The man's jewels was in his belly by the time. It's just, it's the dumbest thing that people do to try to go viral sometimes is during the 4th of July, 4th of July weekends the day. It's crazy what people do with these fireworks. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, I don't understand it. I don't know.

And I would also say this. If you want to spoil yourselves, because Colin's in Chicago and Ryan Music will be out there. Let me just a little recommendation. You go to Navy Pier. There's a restaurant at Navy Pier right up on top. And during the summertime, they light off fireworks two days a week. It's awesome. And the best part is professionals are doing it.

Go figure. How many professionals do you think do the fireworks during the course of a 4th of July? day. What would you think the percentage would be? Oh, less than one percent. Damn. Yeah. Less than one percent. All I know is you can't comprehend it unless you lived it. Nine a.m. I was awake and my windows are open and I'm listening and I hear it's not nonstop. And at first I didn't know what it was. And then I asked a couple people like, man, yeah, it's 4th of July. Like, what do you mean is 4th of July? You wait till the night. You wait till the night. You wait. There's no point.

It's like, hey, I'm going to go lay out by the pool. It's 10 o'clock at night. You wait till dust. What's the point? You barbecue door today. You set off a couple sparklers. You throw the little white dips that pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. Like, why is it going all day long?

Who does that? How is this possible that I can hear fireworks going off nonstop from 9 a.m. until I would to bid at 1 a.m. them in the morning. How many NFL players do you think woke up this morning and are like, oh, thank God. Made it another year. Everybody can't say that. I need to get to camp.

I need to get away from these people. I got to get to camp. I mean, JPP was on the rundown. Ain't no trying to get back into the league. I mean, talk about a tailor to take caution of sorts. By the way, Jason Pierre Paul, under the radar, great career. Yes. I was looking over the weekend, 94 and a half career sacks.

He's talked to it. He wants to get back in the league. It's probably not going to happen at this point. I mean, that would be cool for him to get back and break 100 sacks. That would be pretty cool. All you think about with him is the fireworks incident. Well, I mean, because that's just how society works. He's almost got 100 sacks. He will be forever remembered for blowing his hand off more so than having a dope career.

By the way. Because people don't remember things like, oh, you had a great career. Like, people forget guys that had great careers. They get drafted. How you forget about it. You forget about careers. You don't forget about crazy S that happened. Every Fourth of July, it's going to come up.

Every time. It's been 10 years. Every time. Every fourth of July it's come up. Guy's got almost 100 career sacks. He's got two Super Bowl rings. And LeVar made a comment, you know, which I thought was insulting before the show. When I was pointing out of, hey, man, you know, JPP's got two Super Bowl rings.

So I was like, yeah, where he's going to put him? Oh, damn. I thought was out of line, which I thought was disrespectful. That's messed out because JPP's. He's my man. JPP, I did not say that, bro. But you look at his career. It is funny, though.

It is a funny joke. You look at his career and you go, man, that guy had a great career and did a lot of that after the injury. And all anybody talks about is that moment on 4th of July. And every single year, he's going to be reminded of it. The guy came back and remember when he came back and played with a cast on and still, you know, continued his career. So, yeah, it's, this was a crazy weekend. And hopefully everybody, you know, didn't make any mistakes with those fireworks, even though some did like they do every year.

And now NFL players everywhere are like, all right, vacation's over, training camp's right around the corner. It's grind time bar. This is tis the season. Grine time. Yeah. To be football. Listen, I'm excited for it. There's a lot going on.

And there's a lot to talk about. And that's what the NFL gives you, you know. I know we shots out to Independence Day, shots out to the 4th of July, but now that we've gotten those things out of the way, now those are the topics of conversations we can touch on. And also should point this out. Our hearts are with everyone affected by the Texas flooding. If you saw that over the weekend, devastating.

It's tragic, really, really sad for all those families and people involved. Iheart is partnering with the community foundation of the Texas Hill country to support flood relief. The Kerr County Flood Relief Fund is helping provide. food, shelter, medical care, and long-term recovery for those affected. All donations go to trusted local organizations. Join us in supporting recovery efforts at community foundation.net. They could use your help, whatever you can do to try and provide some sort of support. Those family could use it right now because just devastating over the weekend.

It is the herd here on Fox Sports Radio. It's Levar Arrington, Jonas Knox, in for Colin. And up next, apparently somebody is going to try and do something in the NFL. that hasn't been done by a quarterback in a long time. We'll tell you what it is right here on FSR. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the IHeart Radio app. Hey, what's up everybody? It's me, three-time Pro Bowl of LaVar Arrington, and I couldn't be

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His teammate, Andre Sisko, spoke about what the expectations are from Justin Fields heading into this season, and he seems very optimistic. Getting to know him up close as a teammate has been really, really special. I'm really glad that I get this opportunity to get behind him and just support him as, you know, he takes on that role. As, you know, we already know what quarterback means in NFL. So I'm excited for him to just prove those who are down wrong

and those who are supporting right, because I think he's going to have a huge rear. God, tell me if you've heard this before. Jets get a quarterback, and he's going to be the one. He's going to be the one that's different. This is going to be this time. No, no, but this time for real. Like this is the one that's going to be different. Like this one here.

This is like when I count my son down, when I'm trying to get him to do something, I was like, hey, I'm giving you to the count of five. And then I'll get to four. I'll give them three. I'll give them three. Oh, yeah. But you got to know what the consequence is before you do to count down. Because if you don't have a consequence, then it will never work.

The problem is I'm like the Jets because I'll get to four and then I go four and a quarter. Oh, no. Four and a half. Oh, no. Because you know it's going to go bad. You know what's going wrong. It's like the Jets doers with their quarterbacks, they're like, hey, you know what?

He's the guy this time. And then it's like week 11 and they've won three games. Yeah, but no, no, no. This week everything's going to change. And it just gets pushed down the road and down the road and down the road. And I hope it works for Justin Fields. A lot of people think maybe should have gotten more of an opportunity in Chicago. A lot of people, including people in Pittsburgh,

think that he should have gotten more of an opportunity, especially later in the year when Russ was starting to struggle a little bit. But we've seen this so many times before, and I think that's what makes the week one matchup so interesting, is all the parallels, because Justin Fields said no to the Steelers to join the Jets. The Jets said no to Aaron Rogers and signed Justin Fields, and now Rogers is with the Steelers,

and they're going to meet up in the first game of the season. Yeah. It's just like all the parallels, though, make that match up even more interesting as we get closer. You know, Tanner Engstrange, right? Strand. He's the new coordinator. He was the passing game coordinator for the Detroit lines. They had some really, really good success with that scheme and what they've had. This is a team.

This Jets team has good bones personnel-wise. You look at the offense, they have. players everywhere. You look at the defense, they have players everywhere. There really is no real reasoning outside of how horrible the dysfunction is within the up-top regions of the franchise as to why this team should be in the position they're in right now, which is not very respectable, not very successful, not a winning organization. So when you look at this, scenario for Justin Fields I say okay they bring in a

qualified guy that had success in Detroit with Aaron Glenn on the defense side of the ball so Aaron brings him over to New York for Justin Fields for the other guys that are part of this organization at this point it's going to take a collective

belief starting with Woody Johnson in allowing for the culture to be developed the way that Aaron Glenn understands a culture needs to be developed to be able to win and to be competitive. Can Woody Johnson change the spots on his coat from what they have been?

The answer is unequivocally no. It's not going to happen. But what you can do, What you can do for the sake of your team, for the sake of your franchise, for the sake of the fans, for the sake of your players, you can stop being a presence that creates the dysfunction. Remove yourself from the equation. Allow the people to do the job that you delegated, that you hired to do the jobs. allow Aaron Glenn to develop the culture as a head coach as that applies to the elements and the spaces it applies for this team. The team has a good enough personnel where you can have success with Justin Fields as your quarterback.

That's not a qualifier. This is a top draft pick not too long ago that a lot of people were hanging their hopes and dreams on that he could be the quarterback of the future for another team that has done the same exact things in terms of what they've said about quarterbacks in Chicago. So to me, the fact that it didn't work out in Pittsburgh for Justin Fields, I think that's more so a wash scenario. I do not look at it as,

why would you think Justin Fields is going to have success in New York when he didn't even have success in Pittsburgh? I'm not going to draw that conclusion, Jonas. I am going to look at it from the perspective of, does he have a fair opportunity to have success in New York? I don't know. I don't know because I don't know what the dynamic is between ownership and culture of the new head coach.

If the new head coach has an opportunity to build the culture in an organic, strong, intentional way, yes, all of them have an opportunity to have success and have it right away with the amount of talent that they have. But the big if here is if ownership and culture remains the same and it continues to, you know, keep them in, you know, like bumpers and playing bowling, right? If you have the bumpers up and you're really restricting them and what it is they're able to do, I don't think there will be enough growth. I don't think there will be enough positivity and structure for it to turn into the culture that Aaron Glenn is probably, hoping that he's able to do.

By the way, sidebar on that. If you're an adult, in fact, I'll just put it this way. Anybody over the age of nine, if you use bumpers when you bowl, you should be arrested immediately. And I'm talking at least a month behind, like hard time. You can't really bowl. If you're a real bowler, there's no possible way you can bowl legitimately

if you're a real bowler and you have bumpers. You can't be taken serious. You can't be taken serious. Yeah, you just can't spin it. You can't spin it the way that, unless you're spinning it directly down the center triangle or maybe the second triangle out, you can get it, but it's not going to be as good an angle. If you're going to spin that bad boy and it's going to go out to that, like third, fourth triangle on, you know, what is it, on the runway or whatever you call it? Yeah, the lanes.

The lanes. Yeah. You can't have that because you're going to hit the bumper. Yeah, I would agree with you. Yeah. All right. I'm just making sure. So the Jets side of this.

I am skeptical that Justin Fields has this success. And like Andre Sisko says, well, we're going to see him. I can't wait. He's going to prove a lot of people wrong. All right, well, I'm skeptical of it as you laid out because of what's going on around him. Because the Jets have had a lot of talent over the years. Joe Douglas drafted well. They've had a lot of talent there.

And I'm always a believer of, listen, it's not about the furniture. It's about the foundation. All right, if you've got really nice furniture in the home, but the foundation is cracking, sooner or later, that stuff's getting sucked down into a sinkhole somewhere. It's just going to happen. And I look at it and I go, yeah, he's got all the talent. He's, there's talent there. There's pieces there. There's a reason why Rogers was open to going there because he saw that, man, this is a place where we could win.

They've drafted well, and the whole thing was a disaster. But let's just say hypothetical, Justin Fields thrives in New York. that's a really bad look for a, Aaron Rogers and a really bad look for Mike Tomlin. Because Mike Tomlin reportedly was the guy who said, no, no, no, we're going to stick with Russ the entire way. There were people there like Arthur Smith, the offensive coordinator in Pittsburgh, who wanted Justin Fields to take over. There was a lot of people there who didn't want Justin Fields to lose the job at all. And if all of a sudden he decides because the Steelers gave him a low ball offer reportedly, to go to the Jets and the guy that was in the building

that people were telling Mike Tomlin should be the starter goes to the Jets of all places and thrives, that's a really bad look for Mike Tomlin and Aaron Rogers, which is another subplot to this whole matchup and this whole situation as the season plays. What I'll say is he's never come close to breaking 3,000 yards passing the ball. He did not show the ability to push the ball downfield at a level that moved people to have the belief that he's the long-term answer.

That's just the reality of what took place last year. Now, if that has something to do with the play calling or that has something to do outside of him, I don't know. But what worked against him was when Russ got in, he was pushing the ball downfield and they were having success when he got in. and that early success, whoever made the decision, it made the decision, which Mike Tomlin put himself out in front of it and said it was his decision. It made him look like he made a really good decision. Now, what that looked like or what it looks like moving forward from what it looked like moving forward with Russ, they did not bring Russ back.

So Russ did not do a great enough job where Mike Tomlin putting himself out in front of him saying Russ is our guy. that did not equate to him coming back and being part of the Pittsburgh Steelers for this next upcoming season. Now, when I look at Justin Fields, I think it's a tremendous risk to think that he's going to go from a sub. He gets to mid-2000s. The highest he's ever gotten in passing yards is 2,500 yards in passing the ball. That's not very impressive at all.

Damn. Is that impressive? Is that impressive? No, it's not. I mean, guys, guys challenged. Sequin almost ran for how many yards. The bottom line here is that I don't think you're going to get to the next level of competition with a quarterback that can't break 3,000 yards plus throwing the ball during the course of a season. I don't think you can call somebody an elite passer that can be a franchise guy for you if they can't have those types of seasons where it's,

they produce more than 17 touchdowns in a season. It's just not, to me, it's a stretch and it's a long shot to think that at this point, you're actually going to be able to see Justin Fields be this quarterback that we've never seen at the pro level. Yeah, it's all about him using his legs. Like, that's always been what separates him from everybody else. When he had those huge big plays in Chicago, it was all about him using his legs. when there was a game, his final year in Chicago, where everyone said, man, this is why they got to keep Justin Fields and trade the number one pick

because he had one game late in the year against Atlanta, and he was lights out, unbelievable. But then the next week they finished the season at Green Bay, and it was the same sort of Justin Fields that you've seen. And when you bring up the, which makes me think about this as well, too, because there's almost like a triangular quarterback, storyline to watch and it's how does Justin

Fields do? How does Aaron Rogers do? How does Russell Wilson do? Because they're all kind of connected in a weird way to where Rogers had conversation with Brian Dayball. They have a great amount of respect for each other. Russell Wilson's now with the Giants, Justin Fields and the Jets,

Aaron Rogers and the Steelers. I don't even recall. We talked about this at the time. Did Pittsburgh even try and make an offer or an effort to keep Russell Wilson? I know they did Justin Fields. I didn't hear that. I don't think they even tried.

I did not hear that. You look at those three quarterbacks, you go, well, Justin Fields hasn't really proven it. You know, Rogers seems like the end is near. Russ really wants to keep playing and really, and Pittsburgh didn't even try and keep Russell Wilson. Like, there wasn't even a discussion about it. It was like, oh, cool, he wants to come back here. Nice. He doesn't get along with the offensive coordinator. So all three of those teams are kind of all connected in this weird way.

And look, like I said, I hope it works out for Justin Fields. I'd like to see him get an opportunity. It'd be nice if the New York Jets had some stability and were back to their winning ways like they were when Rex Ryan was there. I'm just skeptical, man. And I also think, could you imagine being a Jets fan knowing deep down in your soul when you talk to people, close to you, knowing I'm never going to see my favorite team win a Super Bowl. What's that

feeling like? Well, especially when your favorite team... Everybody's got to hope. They don't. Dang. I mean, I don't know. I don't want to make this about the Steelers either, but I mean, if you think about it, there's a consistency. Kenny Pickett's best year in Pittsburgh was in 22,

2,400 yards. All right. Russell Wilson Russell Wilson had no more than Justin Fields didn't break 2000 in Pittsburgh but Russell Wilson had

what I believe to be 2,500 as well so nobody is breaking the bank on passing yards in Pittsburgh which begs for the question of what is what is the idea of what you had 2400? 2482 yards for Russell Wilson last year and last season.

Nobody's getting a ton of yards passing the ball from Pickett to Justin Fields to Russell Wilson. Yeah, they haven't. Pittsburgh hasn't had an answer at quarterback since probably second to last year of Big Ben because I think the last year it was a little rough. they tried to draft Kenny Pickett and make that work. That didn't work at all. That fell apart. And he ended up elsewhere.

And then they bring in Russell Wilson and Justin Fields because it was on the cheap. Justin Fields. They were winning games. But Russell Wilson came back from the injury that he was dealing with. I believe it was a calf issue in training camp. And then he came back. And yeah, he did give them a threat to throw deep. He gave them something down the field.

But it just they have. haven't had an answer there in six, seven years. 22, 2022, 2023, 24. You have had three quarterbacks play for your team. And now going into 25, you will have four. Yeah. To me, again, now if I'm the New York Jets, I'm saying I am going to have a measured feeling of confidence towards Justin Fields. but at least he's younger.

He still has an athletic ability about him and the possibilities of his trajectory still going up, trending up, is a possibility. Because I don't feel like guys are being utilized the right way in the Steelers' offensive system. That would be what I'm thinking if I'm the New York Giants and that's what I'm thinking if I'm the New York Jets

and that's what I'm thinking if I'm the Cleveland Brown. rounds. And to me, now we get an opportunity to have comps in terms of what is Russell Wilson going to do this year. What is Kenny Pickett going to do this year? What is Justin Phil's going to do this year? And all of those things will relate back in a way to what's taking place in Pittsburgh and what Aaron Rogers is doing in Pittsburgh and how they're coaching things in Pittsburgh. I'm curious, can Aaron Rogers break 3,000 yards throwing a ball in Pittsburgh this year? Yeah.

Okay. You're saying, yeah, he should. Well, if he stays healthy, I think he will. Well, let's see. Yeah. It is. The last three quarterbacks there have not done it. Yeah.

And they're not Aaron Rogers. I get that. But the last three quarterbacks in, Russell Wilson isn't a bad name. He's got the same amount of Super Bowls as him. I mean, listen, Mason Rudolph might have done it if he didn't get assaulted by Miles Garrett. You never know. That's what you're going to take it to? It is the herd here on Foxport.

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And despite both teams having won World Series titles since that infamous clash they had back in 2017, bad blood remains. Jose Altuve of the Astros was booed throughout the entire weekend. And let's take a listen here to Oral Hersheiser and what he had to say on SportsNet, L.A. Hit hard to deep center field. Pahez on the wall.

A turn and watch this one. Wedge itself from the bottom of the wall. And Cam Smith flying into second, anchoring there with another extra base hit for the Astros, double, Homer double. They're up in third against Casperius. I don't want to open an old wound, but in some ways, they're swinging at these breaking balls

like they know what it's coming. Yikes. These are not a bad pitch. It's really a very good pitch. Low and away. probably would end it up by the ankles if it would have made it past the bat. It's the other thing that you analyze. You analyze your grip, your delivery, your glove position on different pitches.

They had no answers. It was the worst loss by the Dodgers in the history of the stadium. So still making hints to those sign stealing allegations. I was there yesterday too, guys. Oh, yeah? Oh, man. Clean sweep. Oh, man.

I think I heard you out in left field. That was. Were you paying on trash cans? I got guys next to me going, Cheater! When Al Tubei was up. I got a trash can, you can bang. And then he hits a home run.

By the way, Greg Tui, the diehard Astros fan, said he wanted to be referred to as Jose Al Tui moving forward. That's fine. You know what? You're a heartless bastard, Greg. That's like a Huck Tui. Damn. What? Huh?

Huh? What? What? Who said that? It is, by the way, you know, it's crazy. great about this rivalry, it's never going to go anywhere. And they don't even play that often, but because of what happened

in 2017 and the sign stealing and the trash cans and everything that came along with it, Dodger fans will never let it go. At Astros fans, when something like this happens even after they want, like both teams have won World Series since, like you would figure whatever, listen to it was in the past.

It's never going to be in the past. There's always going to be resigning. I mean, as soon as Oral said that, everyone's like, oh my, here we go again, right? And he was making a very innocuous comment about maybe they're tipping their pitches. Yeah. He didn't say they were cheating. Yeah. Right.

But everybody just jumps to like the cheating. Well, his prefaceing of not wanting to open the world. Right. Right. Right. You kind of set the stage. I'm not a groupie or anything, but I'm just saying, I mean, if you say it before you say your point, you're saying

that's what you're all. You wanted to open that the only guys that are still there are McCullors and Altoouvi. Right. Outtube. And so I look at it and I go, all right man it's the nostalgia I mean and it's early in the season right like you're not far enough in the season

where things really matter too much right so finding something that that gets people going I mean why not take advantage the only thing I could think of yes this weekend watching the series was Dodger fans just need to quit booing him because the more they boo him the better he does

just reverse psychology that's the worst when you get an athlete that's good with booze at least if you're the booer Do you think, do you think, all right, so Max Muncie's injured, all right, and he's got, he's dealing with this sprained knee or whatever he's got going on, he's going to be out for weeks. Do you think the Dodgers, if the price is right, would they ever trade for Bregman? I don't think they would. I don't think they would ever bring him in, ever, because he's got the stain of the Astros with him.

There's been a lot of talk about, like, the former Astros, like, Bregman, Tucker, you know, the Verlanders. Tucker wasn't even on the team, though. He wasn't, but he was still there. If you're there during the run, you're going to be associated with it, right? The farm system? Dang, is that deep? If you were there, you're going to be associated with it. Did you drive by Houston at all?

Did you take a connector flight out of Houston? You can't be a part. You can't be a part of this organization. Those guys got booed. They got booed when they were in L.A. or anywhere else? I wonder if the prize was right and Bregman was available. would they make a move for that? And I just don't think they would.

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