The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - A bad look for the Jets

Episode Date: February 28, 2024

Colin reacts to the critical comments from Chiefs WR Mecole Hardman about the Jets after his short tenure in New York  He believes this rumored team for Justin Fields makes some sense as the Bears are likely taking a QB with the first overall pickSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We got stuff happening. Not all of it good news for you, my friend. Uh-oh. Are we talking to Jets again? New York Jets. Here I thought you'd open the show with college basketball, another banner night for your boy last night. So we got stuff there.

The NFL Combine is when all the GMs show up. They talk shop. A lot of stuff being talked about here. So we'll get to Justin Fields in a couple of minutes. He's on the move. It's going to be sooner than later. But it's really interesting. So, and I've said this for,

years, I've been on this to the point that it's irritating and I understand it. But three years now I've been on this. The last several Super Bowls, at the end of the year, look at the playoff coaches. They're offensive coaches. And defensive coaches can be completely disconnected from offense. Belichick's allergic to offense. Tomlin can never get the offensive line right. It could be Mike Zimmer, Ron Rivera, Brian Flores, Sean McDermott I like, but they just,

it takes them forever. to get that offense right behind Josh Allen. They just don't have a feel for it. They know football. They don't get offense, and there's always been questions about Robert Sala. There's a young coach. The offense is a mess. They hire Nathaniel Hackett.

He didn't have much of a market after the Denver disaster. And here is, on the Pivot podcast, McCall Hardman, who went to the Jets. They went and got him, couldn't figure out how to use him. here he is talking about his experience, brief experience. Remember, he was in the Super Bowl for the Chiefs, game winning touchdown, his brief experience with the Jets. Going to the Jets, I've seen that other side of where it's not where you want to be at. Y'all can't tell me about winning.

I've been to full Super Bowls at five years. You know what I'm saying? I know what winner looks like. I know what winner is. So y'all keep telling me certain things. It's like, I'm not going for that. Like, because y'all not doing it right. Like, we got hammers on the ground.

We don't got no discipline. People feel like it's too many individual egos in this locker room or whatever. And I'm telling them, I'm like, this is not going to get you out of win. It's not going to happen. Again, the chief's the gold standard. And he reads the gold standard. And then he went to the Jets. I don't want to hear who's McCull Hardman.

I don't know. Game winning touchdown on the Super Bowl, three catches, one with the Jets. You don't have to be a great player to have great access. to have great perspective. A lot of people in my business aren't stars, but they know stuff, they say stuff. Doesn't invalidate it because you're not a superstar and a sport. I want access.

I want raw, real, relevant opinions. These are relevant. McColl Hardman can play. Not as good as some thought, but he was valuable to the Chiefs. They brought him back and a big game winning touchdown in the Super Bowl. He went on regarding the U.S. And again, Saul is a defensive coach. He talked about the Jets offense.

He's got a new coach that came in, you know, and like, it's no standard there. It's like everybody do what they want to do. And it's like whatever that. Granted, the defense have more of a stabilized standard with the coach and staff on that side. So you could tell the defense got a, they got a standard. But the offense is like, all right, we'll have just figured out. It's Aaron show. They do with Aaron do.

You know what I mean? But then when Aaron go down, it's a standard. It's like, we don't know what to do. Not a good look for Aaron Rogers, who I've always said to great talent. I don't view him as a great leader. That's okay. Kevin Durant, great talent. Don't view him as a great leader.

It's not what he does. He hits shots. Aaron makes passes. But you want me to take the jet seriously in a division with Josh Allen and improved weapons. Tua, Mike McDaniel, and great weapons. And you want me to take Nat Hackett, Aaron off a surgery, arguably, we're still like. in the league seriously. Can't, won't, no thanks. And I don't care if McCull Hardman's not a superstar player. Touchdown in the Super Bowl was a game winner. Good enough for me. So your life will overwhelmingly

be a result of your choices. And Aaron for several years had a standard on offense. He had an offensive coach, two of them. He had a great O line every year. PFF, top 10 packers. He had running backs. He had a standard. He had success. He had a front office that drafts and develops, in my opinion, and I've said this recently, as well as any in the NFL last 25 years. Packers draft and develop at an incredibly high level. And he grumbled, passive-aggressive shots, he went into the darkness, and he chose the Jets.

Bad look. Bad look for Sala. Bad look for Aaron. Smartest guy in the room made a really bad career choice. You can't take him seriously. I got Baltimore's organization in Lamar. Buffalo was winning before Josh Allen. I got Joe Burrow coming back.

I got two of Mike McDaniel. I look at all the... CJ Stroud's a baller. Trevor Lawrence will bounce back. And you want me to take the jet seriously. That was damning stuff right there. That was not good. All right.

This could be good. So a bunch of things converged at one time. First of all, an NBC reporter in Chicago said, the Falcons are the leader in the clubhouse. on the same day that Rahim Morris at the Combine, the head coach of Atlanta went to the podium and said, I wouldn't

be here if we got better quarterback play. So the Falcons are in line for a quarterback and made a call last night. My feeling is it's not going to take forever. It is not going to take forever. Now, I don't think Atlanta is the best

place for Justin Fields. I think he's better served because he's not a refined quarterback yet. I think he's better served going to an offensive coach, but Denver has one. They don't want him. The Giants have one. They don't want him. So I think Atlanta is the best place for him beyond those two. And here's why. Rahim Morris actually spent four years in Atlanta previously as a past game coordinator. Rahim Morris, very good friends with Sean McVeigh as one of the rare defensive coaches that really understands offense. It's also a weaker division, NFC South to the NFC North. I think the Lions and the Packers are

stacked with excellent offensive talent for years to come, not even paying most of it yet. It's a dome over Chicago weather. And Atlanta, we said this multiple times during the season, probably has the most underrated offensive line in football. PFF has it four. It's not as good as the Lions. You can argue it's as good as anybody else in the league. So in my opinion, now you will get a better version of Justin Fields.

He's also going home, more comfortable, probably helps. The Falcons have the number eight. they could take a quarterback, but you're going to get the third or fourth best quarterback at number eight. Do you want to give up all this draft capital? I think Atlanta's always been the leader in the clubhouse. I don't buy Pittsburgh for Justin Fields. They don't know how to refine young offensive talent.

They've been trying for years to do their offensive line. They can't figure it out. And he's not a refined player. So send him down to a defensive coach that understands offense, a bunch of young weapons in a dome at home, weak division, that's about as well as you're going to do without getting an offensive coach. And by the way, it's easy to dump on Justin Fields and I've been critical of him, but Justin Fields is just what happens to every young Bears quarterback. Kyle Orton, Rex Grossman, Mitch Tribesky, Justin Fields, Cade McNown, you see glimpses,

you have a good stretch, and eventually it doesn't work. Because it's the Bears, they have a poor owner, always an iffy front office, they have a lame duck coach. But you know what? Atlanta's a better spot. It's a do-over. It's better weather. It's a weaker division. And it's a defensive coach.

He's got one in Chicago. But this defensive coach has a better feel for offense. So we will find out you can blame Justin Fields or you can blame the Bears. We'll know by Thanksgiving. If he's a falcon, we will know by Thanksgiving. Was it Justin who ends up being average in Atlanta, maybe? Or is it the Bears if he flourishes in Atlanta? But it does feel like to me also should be noted if he goes to Atlanta.

The offensive coordinator is one of McVeigh's guys, Zach Robinson, and McVeigh's offensive guys are all good. There are no whiffs with McVeigh's offensive guys. You may not love Brandon Staley, but Kevin O'Connell in Minnesota, outstanding. Guy in Cincinnati got to a Super Bowl pretty good. Zach Robinson, super bright guy. So McVeigh's offensive guys all hit. Sean's one of the smartest guys in the league.

He doesn't miss on any of his offensive guys. Like none, and that's who Atlanta, Rahim Morris brings him over. That's who Atlanta's got as the O.C. So if Justin Fields has talent, you'll see it. And if he doesn't work, it's on him. Because Atlanta is about as good as you're going to do having a defensive coach. Weak division, nice weapons. Defensive coach spent four years passing game coordinator.

a McVeincipal offensive coordinator, tremendous offensive line. That is about as good as you're going to do if you're Justin Fields out of Chicago. So NBC reporting, it's likely Atlanta. Rahim Morris saying, I wouldn't have this job if quarterback play was better. Now, maybe they could also get Justin Fields and draft a quarterback. I wouldn't do that. I think that's too much for Fields. He needs to be refined.

He needs to be supported. He's gotten beat up a little bit in the press. So very exciting times, Jay Mack, and Caleb Williams is now talking. Very exciting times. Yeah, you know, I hear all this Justin Fields, Atlanta, and I'm looking around and I'm like, you remember your boy Sam Darnold? Yeah. Yeah.

Top five pick, a lot of prospects. Yeah. He ends up going to San Francisco after starting a multiple places and sitting. And now you and a lot of people think he's one of the best backups in the league. Yeah. Does it make sense for Fields to go to a smart offensive coach on a good, team behind a good quarterback and maybe be a backup as opposed to go to Atlanta where I remember I don't know that he's going to be a slam dunk in Atlanta Sam darnall didn't go from the

jets to San Francisco there were a couple pit stops yes where he wanted to be a number one and struggled and struggled so Justin Fields if we're going to do the darnald comp Darnal went to Carolina to be the guy and wasn't the guy so Justin Fields is saying hey I've shown flashes I get one more shot now if he doesn't work as a starter and they'll probably give him two full years. And I think it'll be a better version of him. I think Rahim Morris has a better feel for offense. It's a weaker division. It's

better weather. By the way, we've got to be honest about this. The NFC north now, Green Bay is stacked and young and has cap space. Detroit is stacked and young. And Minnesota has a coach that I think we, and some weapons. We think

Minnesota's on the rise if they can get the quarterback, right? So by the way, that division, if they bring Kirk Cudson, if they bring Kirk Cousins back for two years. Well, Fields is not Goff. He doesn't look like he's Jordan Love. I watched Week 18. It doesn't look close. And he's not cousins if he's healthy.

You can't do anything in a division with the fourth best quarterback. If he goes to that division, now you have an argument is he as good as Baker Mayfield. Whether he is or not, he's in the argument for best quarterback talent in his division. If you have the fourth

best quarterback... Wait, is he more talented than Derek Carr? I think he is significant he's bigger stronger more athletic Derek I thought this year became a little bit of a dink and dunk guy Dennis Allen you know in that offense I'm not I'm just saying if you are in the discussion argument for best quarterback in your division you have a shot to make the playoffs Justin Fields is the fourth best quarterback if Kirk Cousin stays

he's a fourth best quarterback in the division I watched Jordan Love play Justin Field I watched them play final week of the year the gap was noticeable it was not close Not close. Let me float one quick team to you. Genius, offensive mind, already have a starting quarterback who runs around and make plays, the Indianapolis Colts and Shane Steichen. If Justin Fields goes there back up to Anthony Richardson, who got hurt, I think three times in like eight weeks.

I don't think you want to put pressure on Anthony Richardson having a star in the building. I think it's Anthony's team. Gardner Minchew's a perfect backup. Let's support Anthony Richardson. Justin is a well-known commodity. he's talented. Let's just go all in for one more year on Anthony Richardson, who, for the record, is wild fun to watch.

I know you're big on going to smart organizations, and I think, I'm a coach owner questionable, but Clegg coach. Let me just throw this out. McVeigh, many believe Rahim Morris is McVeigh's best friend in the sport. McVeigh's one of the smartest guy. Smart guys don't hang out with dumb guys. So Rahim Morris, by the way, you ever watch them at the podium,

you watch it, is sharp. Real sharp. McVeigh considers him one of his best friends in the business. Well, Sean hangs with pretty smart guys. So I don't worry. And Al's Rahim is not a defensive. He's not a relic. He's not Jurassic. Dude knows offense.

Do you think McVeigh would be close friends with a dinosaur on offense? Like he and Rahim, that's why they connect. He's a defensive guy that gets offense. So Justin and Atlanta is a good story. Is it a good ending? It is a good story. You watched Desmond Ritter last year. You watched that stuff.

Unfortunately, I did, yes. Yeah, well, you bet them a few times. More than a few. Uncle Colin warned you. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. On Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the I-Hard Radio app. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games.

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So finally, he's talking Pete Tamill, been covering college football forever, great, great writer. He basically, Caleb Williams said, if I get drafted by the Bears, I'll be excited. If they trade the pick and I get drafted by somebody else, I'm just as excited. Speaking about Chicago, they've got a talented team, a talented offense and defense. I'm not pushing any agenda. I'm excited for whatever comes.

So this is precisely what his camp told me three weeks ago. They're going to go where drafted. They're not going to do an Eli Manning at John L.A. Privately, does Caleb's camp have concerns? Yeah, anybody with a functional brain would to poorly run franchise. Go ask Aaron Rogers what it's like to join a circus. They have the poorest owner. They have a tenuous front office, a lame duck head coach.

They haven't had a top ten offensive. in the decade. Sorry, Chicago. There's concerns. From his dad, from Caleb, from his agent, if he gets one, they haven't won a playoff game in 13 years. I mean, just think how gifted Trevor Lawrence was. Number one, high school

and college quarterback. Go look at his three years with the Jaguars. Been an absolute roller coaster. Justin Herbert. There's a reason Jim Harbaugh took the job in L.A. Justin Herbert's the reason. Four years, no playoff wins. Why? The culture of the Chargers.

has always been disappointment. You ever notice that many of the best quarterbacks joined really solid organizations? Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes. By the way, Josh Allen, they made the playoffs with Tyrod Taylor before he got there. Jordan Love, see how he's flourishing, see the support. Brock Purdy out of college joined excellence. It matters. Caleb Williams is great.

If you gave him a list of 32 teams he would go to, sorry Chicago, you would not be in the top five. But he's going to make the best of it. I do think he is substantially more accurate and more talented than Justin Fields. And you restart the clock. I mean, if you don't pick Caleb Williams, number one, Drake Mays been too inconsistent with his accuracy to take number one. Jaden Daniels and J.J. McCarthy are smaller and thinner players. Bow Nix has a much lower ceiling, and Michael Pennix has an injury history.

It's a no-brainer. Draft him, get out of the way, and figure out a way to protect him with your offensive line. Load up, more draft capital and protection up front. But he is finally talking. He is saying what his camp said to me three weeks ago, they're going to play nice. They're going to go for it. I'm excited. I want to be positive.

His camp did tell me three weeks ago the one thing they truly, truly like about. Chicago is it's a city that's loud and cares about football. You go to Jacksonville, they can tarp off the upper deck. You go to some of these places, they just don't care as much. Chicago cares, San Francisco cares, Philadelphia cares. He wants to go to an organization that if he fails or he struggles, they care as much as he do. He does, and he feels like Chicago is a city that's loud, will hold people accountable. Michael Jordan, you know, go look at the history.

of Chicago, they've had some success, and it's a city of passion, some legacy, and he's excited. But it wouldn't be no reasonable person who's a quarterback would pick Chicago first, all things being equal. Jay Mack with the news. No, no, no, no, turn on the news. This is the herd line news. All right, let's stick with another quarterback. Russell Wilson, a lot of drama swirling around the Denver, Sean Payton stuff. Sean Payton made some comments. According to Broncos GM, George Patton,

a change in scenery for Russ probably won't come via trade. You know, I haven't heard anything from any teams, you know, so, you know, we'll see. We had to get through our draft meetings. We had to get through our free agent meetings and evaluate with what we have. And so we just want to get through the process. Sean needs to see all these quarterbacks. The coaches need to see all these quarterbacks.

until we make an informed decision. Hmm. Very interesting. No takers yet. No. Why is he even saying this? Oh, we haven't heard from anybody. No phone lines are open, everybody.

Any takers for all, nobody wants it. They're going to end up cutting it, right? There's just no way. Well, yeah, that's going to be the sort of attaching a draft pick to it. Remember the Brock Oswaldier deal? If we could choose where the quarterbacks go, I would choose Baker stays in Tampa. Justin Fields, Atlanta, Russell Wilson to Pittsburgh.

I don't agree with Merrill Hodge. I don't think Kenny Pickett's the answer in the AFC, or that division, fourth best quarterback in that division. And then I think Kirk Cousins, I don't think Minnesota is going to be viable in that division, as good as Green Bay and Detroit is with a rookie quarterback. So do you bring Kirk Cousins back and draft a quarterback later? Go get a penix, but get him later.

But if I could choose where Russell went, I think Pittsburgh's great. Okay, well, wait a minute. You named a lot of quarterbacks, left the Las Vegas Raiders off the list. I don't know that Russell Wilson would stay in the division and go to the Raiders, but they're going to have to get a quarterback. And Fields could be in play there. I'm not sure.

Anytime we hear it's a slam dunk, oh yeah, everybody thinks Justin Fields, Atlanta, Russ to Pittsburgh, you know we get curveballs a lot. Yes, of course we do. That's great. That's what we love about the sport. Give me a Russell Wilson curveball. Come on. I know you got one.

I'll give you one. Las Vegas. It's not bad, but it's not. in the division. That's why, because the feeling is we'll be better than Denver. We get payback at Payton. But you keep saying if Fields goes to Atlanta, he's probably the best quarterback in the division or in the mix.

Why wouldn't Russell Wilson go there? Well, I do, but I don't know if Raheem Morris, I think my takeaway is Russell is established. When you get Russell, you get all the good and the bad. Justin Fields is a young man that needs, he's like a $4 stock that can. you turn him into a $12 stock. And I think Rahim Morris thinks he can kind of mold Justin Fields to be with all these young guys, and these young guys grow together.

Now, I can make an argument that bringing a veteran with this offensive line, Atlanta's funny. You know, Atlanta's either really interesting or lousy. Like my whole life, it's like you've had these really good teams and they evaporate a year later, is I could argue Russell, Atlanta, Russell, Pittsburgh, and I can make an argument both, and they both feel fine with me. but my feeling is there's some immaturity with some of the Steelers, offensive players. It feels like it's been like this for 10, 12 years.

And I think Russell brings in maturity, commitment. I don't feel immaturity with Atlanta. I just feel like they haven't had the right coach and the right quarterback. I don't think they need an injection of maturity in Atlanta. They just need a better quarterback. Pittsburgh needs to grow up. Tomlin has no feel for offense. Give Russell Wilson the offense.

He's a grown-up. He'll hold those young guys accountable, and Pittsburgh is stacked with talent. So all things being equal. The health checks out for both. And you are the Atlanta Falcons. Russell Wilson or Justin Fields. Well, Russell's better, but he's expensive. Now, if I get him for, if I, Denver pays the.

They have to. I mean, they're going to have to, right? Russell's better. So you take Russ. That's where Fields gets interesting. Well, it's Rahim. Yeah, I mean, Russell is better than Justin Fields. If you're Rahim Morris, who gives you a better chance to win and maybe win the

That's a very good argument. It's a very good argument. Okay, I'll put it this way. Russell is more necessary in Pittsburgh. Justin Fields isn't refined. Defensive coach. He could go man overboard. You could also say the Atlanta guys are all so young.

They need a veteran. They need a veteran. Bejean Robinson's a grown-up. Drake London. 22. But I'm saying their young players. But mature. It seems to me more mature.

They just need a better quarterback. And Justin Fields and Russell are better than Desmond Ritter. Pittsburgh needs a grown-up in the room because Rahim Morris does have a feel for offense. Tomlin doesn't. So give Mike a guy that can run the offense, a Super Bowl quarterback, and Deontay Johnson, Pickens. Those guys are complaining. It's like bring down the heat. Bring down the noise.

You know we like bargains, whether it's gambling, stock market, whatever. I think Justin feels it's good. I think Russell Wilson's a great bargain after the Broncos cutoff. Just a great, great value. Next up, the Cowboys. We've got to keep talking about the Dallas Cowboys because they are America's team. There's some culture issues swirling after that playoff loss to the Packers. Stephen Jones, the owner, is confident in the team's leadership and has no doubt they have the right people running things in Dallas.

Do you worry about the culture on the team entitlement or anything like that? I think, you know, from the organization on down, we feel we feel good about our culture. You always want to be better. I will say that. I mean, if you're not, you know, if your results aren't winning the Super Bowl, I think everybody's saying, how do we, you know, how do you ultimately be the last guy standing? But I think overall, between, you know, organizationally, between, you know, our coach, our personnel department, and I think our leadership on our team's outstanding. Weird.

I missed some of this culture stuff, maybe on vacation. But the problem isn't culture, is it? No. I mean, you win 12 games, three years in a row. I never, I don't think the, I don't think the Cowboys have a culture issue. I think they pay a quarterback A-plus money, who's B-plus, and nobody wins the Super Bowl, and that's the case. That's just not the case.

Forget about a Super Bowl. Let's get to a conference championship first. Well, they get to the play. and they've won playoff games. So they're a great regular season team in the last three years. They're a very good NFL franchise. They're not great. They're good.

Last three years, they're Minnesota. I believe 36 regular season wins. That has got to be top five in the league. Top four, top three, whatever it is. So why are they folding in the playoffs? Because they have a B quarterback, not an A, and that's who's winning in the playoffs. I don't think it's that complicated. So it's on DAC?

Well, it's not all on DAC, but when you pay DAC what you pay them, Let's say they paid DAC 36. Oh, you could get another receiver better at number two than Brandon Cooks. 36. Daniel Jones got 40. Come on, Colin. That's not fair. That's not fair.

Kirk Cousins got like 40. What's he won? He hasn't done anything in the playoffs. Look at his numbers compared to deck in the places. I think he's Kirk Cousins. So they're going to pay him 60. No. I'm not joking.

That's the number. They're going to pay him like 60. Yes, they are. 60? Well, now with a salary cap going up, that's the number. Oh, my God. And he's a 37 to a 4. 42 and he's 60, that's three players. That's three players I can get. Brady was taking pay cuts

when Breeze took a pay cut. When Peyton Manning wasn't the highest paid, funny how the roster gets better. You know, Brady's now a teammate here. So I just think about this. If you put DAC at 60 million with the Niners. No, I'm just saying this. You'd have to get rid of Kettle, Debo, Fred Warner. No, I mean, those three players would leave. You would not have the same team. I don't think he's making 60. one up. That would be insanity and that's asking to lose. By the way, Brock Purdy's making what, like 800,000? I think he's perfectly suited for 800,000. Come on. 60 mil seems excessive. All right. Final story. Listen, NBA was kind of off the hook last night and Colin,

the Cleveland Cavs had a 59-foot buzzer beater to beat my Mavericks. Here is the call. Two seconds left. The calves are out of timeouts. They have to go 94 feet. Struth from midcourt Oh! Did you believe this? Oh! Goodness! From midcourt has won it for the Cavaliers.

Mavericks, you know I'm all pot committed on the Mavs. I'm going to bet them to win the finals. No, that was a good game last night. Mabs were excellent, folded late. They lost two games in a row now after winning seven straight. They fell from fifth to ninth in the West. Just by losing two games, the West is really really. really difficult right now.

Colin, just remember. The playing in the West could be. Dallas, Golden State, Lakers, Phoenix. Oh my gosh. That's insane. That force. Say it again. Dallas, Phoenix, Lakers, Warriors.

The Warriors will not be in the plan. There'll be a playoff team here in about six games. You think they're going to get to six? I think they're playing excellent basketball. Steak dinner wager? You owe me seven. Oh, stop. I might as well open up a game.

cattle farm. No, I'll bet you dinner. Okay, let's make a bet right now. Double or nothing. All the legend said to do it. Right now. Fine, yeah. Okay, the Warriors don't need a plan.

They'll be a playoff team. So you have the Warriors six, five, whatever number. I think they're, I've watched them play six of their last seven games for at least a half. They play the Knicks coming up here. And let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. They gave Denver.

That was a three minutes, go either way, game. And they don't match up well with Denver at all. I'll even bake in some injury. If Curry misses three or four games, bets negated. They're playing. That's how confident. By the way, Chris Paul's back.

Ooh, Chris Paul. Oh, my goodness. Geez. Who did they smack around last night? Oh, the Wizards, the worst team in the league. By the way, Jordan Poole. This is embarrassing. Remember when he was relevant last year?

No, I don't. I don't remember when he was ever relevant. He was talked about. He wasn't relevant. Fair. Jay Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by.

The Hurd Lie News. So, in Los Angeles, we're on a bit of a role. Chicago and New York, I don't have a real explanation. Maybe it's weather. I don't know. But Los Angeles is on a role. Star after star after star keeps coming to our city. Even our coaches, Lincoln, Riley, Sean McVey, Jim Harbaugh are stars.

And Shohei Otani from Orange County to Los Angeles County has moved up to be a Dodger. Here was his first at-bat in spring training. I'm not hit high in the air to left and deep. This ball carrying. This ball is gone. It is Dodger debut. All right. First game, not his first at bat. Whatever. It's pretty incredible. My prediction, the Dodgers will draw over 50,000 people per home game and will shatter all the Dodger attendance records. We've been told that the Dodger

radio and TV sales, they are now closing deals and getting interest from companies who've never really spent money on baseball broadcasts. Shohei Otani is an absolute revenue machine. It feels a little bit like

when A-Rod went to the Yankees where those Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday night games in the Bronx had an additional 10 to 12,000 people. But Otani is global and handsome and large and productive. He's an event, and people in Los Angeles love an event. And he also joins a winning culture.

So L.A. knows how to treat stars. This is not LeBron in Cleveland or Shaq in Orlando, where it always felt a little lobsided, too big of a star in a small town. But, you know, it's interesting to watch because Yankees went out and they got Aaron Judge and Garrett Cole, and they got Soto, so they got stars. but it is interesting that I felt like 10 years ago, kind of the Yankees were where stars went. And even the Yankees now to me feel small by Dodgers standards.

The Dodgers outdraw them significantly. They out earn them. They outstar them. And I can't wait to watch Otani and the Dodgers. As I've said before, I'm a baseball casual. I'm not sitting down watching nine innings very much. But the Otani thing is like notable. Like I get stuff on my email from the Dodgers.

Like stuff is selling out fast. And yesterday, on display, when people talk about spring training games on sports talk radio locally, about a spring training at bat, you know something is significant. And it's weird. Like in Los Angeles, the two things that feel big right now, Harbaugh of the Chargers, Otani and the Dodgers, you can feel it. You can feel it before the season starts. So all excitement there for the Dodgers. Success is more than a desk. destination, it's a path you take one step at a time, fortitude, dedication, the hard work inside all of us that comes before the recognition.

That's what Steeful's been doing for over 130 years. They're Midwest-based, St. Louis, to be specific, S-T-I-F-E-L, Stiefel, one of the fastest growing wealth management firms in America. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. Hey, I'm Doug Gottlie. The podcast is called All Ball. We usually talk. We talk all basketball all the time, but it's more about the stories about what made these people love their sport and all the interesting interactions along the way. We talk to coaches. We talk to players. We tell you stories. You download it. You listen to it. You listen to All Ball with Doug Ghalib on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced

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And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill, waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because, of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so y'all know.

I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah.

For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your Podcasts. Sunday on Fox, Caitlin Clark, the all-time NCAA women's scoring leader, has her sights set on breaking

Pistel Pete's NCAA scoring record and a huge game against second-ranked Ohio State. It all tips off Sunday at 1230 Eastern on Fox. By the way, Caitlin Clark,

year one, year two, year three, year four. Her games are beating men's games significantly in college basketball. Why? Because continuity We can expect it. I can think two things at once.

I can love player empowerment, but not think mobility is good for a sport. College basketball now between the one and done and transfer portals a mess. I can't keep track of anybody. Caitlin Clark, I know what I'm getting. It's one of the things we talk about this all the time. Remember when all those guys went to Brooklyn? It was like KD and Kyrie Irving and James Hardin.

They had the lowest TV ratings of any local team in America. broadcast team of the Nets wins on a regular basis, the best broadcasting team. Ion Eagle, very funny. Really, one of the best local broadcasting teams could be a network team out there. It's not that. It's that everybody loves player empowerment. Fans are creatures of habit. And Caitlin Clark, you know what you're getting.

Sold out arenas, kind of a Steph Curry vibe to it. And the ratings have been absolutely phenomenal. So, you know, and again, I'm for the transfer portal. But in college football, teams lose about 6%, 7% around their of their roster. College basketball teams are losing half of it. You can't keep track of who's playing. Unless you're a Kansas Jayhawk fan, you probably know your roster in one or two of your rivals rosters, but go ask them who starts for 90% of the teams.

You can say what you want about the NBA. I know who's starting for the Warriors tonight and the Celtics tonight and the Mavericks tonight. I can tell you who's starting for Minnesota and OKC. Mobility sounds great and everybody's for it, but the truth is, it's hard on sports. You want your stars to stay put for years and years and years. Speaking of stars, when Draymond Green punched Jordan Poole, the reaction was predictable.

Draymond Green bad guy, get him out of the Bay Area. And Jordan Poole is a victim. But yet it was interesting that Steve Kerr was not as upset with Draymond as he was that the video leaked. You're seeing now why. Jordan Poole signed with the Wizards. It's officially the worst contract in the league. He's a cocky goofball that has no idea how to play basketball. His highlights are embarrassing.

The problem was Jordan Poole with the Warriors, and part of the solution was Draymond Green getting in his face. I know it's harsh, but have you seen the warrior since Draymond Green came back in mid-January? Have you seen the numbers? I've watched half of those games minimum. They're number one in points per game, number one in assists per game, number two and three-point shooting, and number seven in wins. I say this when I talk to my friends about basketball, I will judge your basketball knowledge in the NBA on one player, Draymond Green. If you don't think he's good, you don't get it. I'm not interested in your opinion.

After Steph Curry, he is the soul and the heartbeat of the franchise and all these championships. Kevin Durant wandered into town, couldn't take the authentic and raw opinions of Draymond. Kerr can, Clay can, Steph can, Kevin couldn't. He left, and his career has been mediocre since. but Jordan Poole is a losing player who fanboys often love because he makes an occasionally good highlight setting screens, defending, IQ,

getting the ball to the right players, demanding hard practices on the road. I was told a couple of years ago by somebody close to Steve Kerr that the value of Draymond that fans didn't see about 50% of it Because when you are a team in professional basketball that scores easily, it's hard to maintain difficult practices. It's one thing if you're the bad boy pistons or you're a defensive-minded team without great offense, where you've got to really work your way to wins. Work ethic is vital. Those teams practice hard. But when you're gifted offensively, you can flip a switch.

It's hard to get those teams on a Tuesday in Denver on an off day to come to shoot around or come to practice and grind. Draymond Green demands the Warriors do that. And Steve Kerr has often said he holds us so accountable. Now, at times the Warriors have had to hold him accountable. He is not perfect. He has made mistakes. But with Jordan Poole on the floor, the Wizards have been outscored by 377 points. He is a losing player who had to get out of the organization.

When Draymond's on the floor, 18 games since his suspension, they're the best offense in the league, and he's a defensive player. So if you don't get Draymond, you don't get basketball. You're just about, you're a fanboy who just, oh, a guy shoot and scored. Jordan Pools a losing player. Draymond Green is a winning player. There's only a handful of guys in this league, your KDs, you know, Lucas, you know, Yokic, who can give you 32 a night.

I mean, you can't define everybody on the points they can get you. Very few guys can score 25 points a night in the NBA. You got to do other stuff, and Draymond does all the other stuff. Our lead story today was interesting. Former Jet Briefly, McCall Hardman, who was with the Chiefs, went to the Chets, back to the Chiefs, was on the Pivot podcast, and laid out one of the many problems he saw when he was briefly with the Jets. Going to the Jets, I've seen that other side of where it's not where you want to be at. Y'all can't tell me about winning.

I've been to full Super Bowls at five years. You know what I'm saying? I know what winner looks like. I know what winner is. So y'all keep telling me certain things. It's like I'm not going for that. Like, because y'all are not doing it right.

Like we got hammers on the ground. We don't got no discipline. People feel like it's too many individual egos in this locker room or whatever. And I'm telling them, I'm like, that's not going to get you out of win. It's not going to happen. J-Mack? Not wrong. Now you say to yourself, helmets on the floor.

It's little stuff. It's little stuff. I can't disagree with anything he said. I mean, how is Nat Hackett still employed there? Like, how is Robert Sala saying, oh, I'm going to let this happen with my coaching head on the line? Do you know there's an Aaron Rogers book coming out in August, September? Who? Ian O'Connor. Oh, geez.

Oh, boy. He writes good books. I'm glad I'm not mentioning that quarterback's name. Our two next. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier.

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I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, what's good, y'all? You're listening to Learn the Hard Way with your favorite therapist and host, Kear Games. This space is about black men's experiences, having honest conversations that it's really not safe to have anywhere,

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