The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - Aaron Rodgers and the Jets

Episode Date: September 20, 2024

Colin gives Aaron Rodgers and the Jets props for their dominant win over the Patriots but puts things in perspective as we are only 3 weeks into the season. After Shohei Ohtani became the first 50 ho...merun - 50 stolen bases player in baseball history, Colin officially declares Ohtani the greatest player of all timeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:18 Thanks for making us part of your day. You know, I drove into work today, J-Mac, knowing how happy you would be. And sometimes when a C student gets an A, there's no reason to be cynical. There's no reason to be judgmental. Wow. The standard for Jet quarterback play over the last seven, eight years, has been so low. You should feel great today. You're a Jets fan.
Starting point is 00:03:40 You should feel great. You should be happy today. You're choosing violence early, huh? The standard. Come on. Rogers was lights out last night, Colin. All right. So what's interesting about the NFL, I said this yesterday.
Starting point is 00:03:53 We kind of know how it's going to end up, but week to week, you don't know what happens. And so before the season started, Jay Mack and I went back and forth. And I said, I think the Jets are going to be a nine-ish 10-win team. I think they'll be in the playoff race with Miami for that wild card spot. Buffalo's going to win the division. And they're already in first place. I said they'll be in that wild card spot until week 16, 17, 18. And that's what I thought.
Starting point is 00:04:16 And so last night's game in August looked like we thought it would look in August, Aaron at home against the terrible Patriots team. But when New England beat Cincinnati, and Addie, I'm sitting there thinking, hey, and New England's got a bite. They're terrible. Bill Belichick left Gerard Mayo a mess. New England is talentless on offense. So, nothing personal, but Aaron teams at home against a talentless New England team on a short week with a rookie head coach.
Starting point is 00:04:51 So here's what the Jets are. They got crushed by a really good team. they crushed a really bad team and they had a real tug-up on the road against an average team. That's what they are. But we know that Aaron is at his best when he's comfortable
Starting point is 00:05:05 and playing with elite at home, decent protection. He was comfortable last night. Again, at home, playing a bad team on a short week, had to go on the road. Aaron was really comfortable. And it felt good. And the other thing is, like Kirk Cousins
Starting point is 00:05:22 on Monday Night Football, Kirk looked better on Monday night than the previous week, Kirk moved better. The happiest moment for the Jets was the first time Aaron moved out to the right. He got flushed out to the right. Aaron moved better. So that is a really good feeling for the Jets because in the postseason, if you get there, late in the season, postseason January football, you got to extend plays. You got to make plays off script.
Starting point is 00:05:46 That's what Mahomes is doing. Hertz is doing. You can't just be sitting in the pocket. I don't care if you have the best coach and the best roster. Jimmy Garoppolo just sat in the pocket. You want to be able to move, and Aaron now is moving, that's a great sign. So if you extrapolate Aaron's numbers, if you take his first three games and you extrapolate him over the season.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Now, the schedule gets tougher. He's got to face Josh Allen twice. Two will be back. Got to face him twice late. Kyler Murray, Trevor Lawrence. He's got to face much better quarterbacks. And you cross your fingers on Garrett Wilson's health, because if he's gone, it's not the same offense.
Starting point is 00:06:17 But if you project Aaron's numbers, this is what they would look like at the end of the year. 3,500 yards, 103 passer rating, complete 67% of his throws. Are you kidding me? New York Jets football? I would sign up for 10 years of that. So Aaron may be 40, but like Kirk Cousins, he looks like he can move a little bit now. Let jet fans bask in the glory. I mean, just let them have it.
Starting point is 00:06:45 This is no day to be cynical for jet fans. They're going to go on WFAN radio in New York, and they're buying their Super Bowl tickets. But you remember yesterday I went on the show and I go, I don't understand the line. And when I got off the show, I got a text from my buddy. He goes, Colin. New England's bad on the road, short week, rookie coach, bad quarterback play. That's why it's six and not three.
Starting point is 00:07:08 And I'm like, okay, that's why he's a better I'm not. That's why he's a pro. I'm not. But you figured it out pretty quickly. Aaron at home, Aaron comfortable, a team on a short week. There is no reason to be cynical. Now, I think the Jets margins, I'll say it again, are very, very, very thin. If they lost a
Starting point is 00:07:24 Brees Hall or a Garrett Wilson, they got to win with defense. And I'm not sure this is a great defensive team, although they look great last night. But let's just take a deep breath. A team that's been a D-plus C-minus student at quarterback over the last decade on average,
Starting point is 00:07:40 they had an A-night. Let them have fun, a second beer. Let fireman Ed scream and yell, and they don't get these very often. The Jets don't look good at quarterback very often. So when they get it like last night, yeah, I know it's New England. Yeah, I know we all thought New England would be the worst team in the league.
Starting point is 00:07:58 When they beat Cincinnati, we went, they're the worst team in the league. Here's a happy Aaron Rogers on a nice win. He looked good. New York's happy. New York football hasn't been good Giants, Jets, in years. Here's Aaron. Feeling real good out there. I felt good pregame.
Starting point is 00:08:17 And, you know, I've been progressing. I said to you guys after week one, you know, it's going to be a process of continuing. to extend plays once I feel more comfortable and this was kind of the first step in playing like I know I'm capable of playing. I felt like I was you know myself. He was. He looked good.
Starting point is 00:08:34 No cynicism. No snarky. No condescending. The Jets looked like, let's be honest, before the season in August, we said, you know, it's going to be a nine or 10 win team. Nine or 10 win teams with a Hall of Fame quarterback,
Starting point is 00:08:50 even if he's old, are going to hammer teams like New England at home. They did. Good job. So earlier in the day, the greatest major league baseball player ever, and I don't think it's close, had the greatest day for a player ever. Shohei Otani went six for six, three home runs, 10 RBI's, 17 total bases. And what's even more remarkable, this is what's even more remarkable. This is a rehab year for him. He's not pitching or fielding. So this is really a rehab year for him. It's not fully healthy. When asked about the pursuit of the 50-50 club, 50 home runs, 50 stolen bases, O'Tonnie had said, hey, I just want to get it over with. And yesterday, he got it over with.
Starting point is 00:09:43 On a 1-2, Otani, says one in the air. The other way. That could go. What of a kind season. Now, for most greatest players ever, that would be enough. You'd go home in the clubhouse, pop open a cold one, high five shower, go out. But Shohei Otani isn't just a great player. He is the most remarkable baseball player ever, and it wasn't long after he joined the 50-50 club. He did this. Nice. I had said about two years ago, I thought Shohei Otani was better than Babe Ruth and I got pushback.
Starting point is 00:10:57 I admit I was wrong. He's significantly better than Babe Ruth. He is the first six-tool player. I would like to remind you again, this is a rehab season. He's not fielding. He's not pitching. Even Mookie Bet said, I don't know how to explain it. He's just feeling sexy.
Starting point is 00:11:21 He just has one of those days. He just feeling it. This season, he is first in runs, second in hits, first in home runs, first in RBI, OPS, slugging percentage, total bases. Shame. He's dropped a second in stolen bases. You know, power hitters are not supposed to steal bases. Power hitters look like guys who do deadlifts like five times a week. And guys that steal 50 bases.
Starting point is 00:11:49 aren't supposed to hit it like that. They're supposed to be twitchy. Yeah, there's never been anything like this guy. Ever on a absolutely loaded roster, Freddie Freeman, Mookie Betts. There's talent everywhere on this roster. Even Otani is markedly better, superior, more remarkable than every other player.
Starting point is 00:12:13 And oh yeah, for the first time in his career yesterday, among his personal exploits, he cleansed a playoff spot. So we'll get to see him in October. He deserves it, and so do we. J. Mack, I'm sitting home waiting for the football game, watching the Dodgers and thinking, sometimes, you know, I always said there was one baseball player.
Starting point is 00:12:39 There's only one athlete in my life that I didn't see play, that I wish I would have, in all sports. Because I got old Wilts Chamberlain. And that was Sandy Kofax, who literally the greatest hitters of his time are like, yeah, Bob Gibson was this, Bob Gibson was that, but nobody could hit Sandy Kofax. Like the greatest players, the Frank Robinson's are like, yeah, you just couldn't hit him. This could literally not hit him. And anybody born this morning may not get the prime years of Shohei Otani,
Starting point is 00:13:13 but we are watching like a modern-day Babe Ruth, although Ruth didn't really pitch and hit in one season a lot. He was either a hitter or a pitcher. And maybe Otani when he pitches and hits next year, maybe the offensive numbers and stolen bases come down. But that's the greatest baseball player and the greatest day of his career ever. And it was remarkable. What a night to be a sports fan. You've got Otani going off six for six and then the Jets getting the victory later. And I got a new present this morning, a new paperweight here for the show for the desk. A little Jets performance. So the staff is excited. I am not going to be cynical.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Oh, I would hope not. Listen, after years of Tim Boyle, Zach Wilson. I don't even remind me of those guys. I know. It's like I was driving in this morning. I thought, you know what, it's okay for people to be happy. We're in a very divisive time in America. There's hate and anger everywhere.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Let's celebrate what the Jets did. It was a great date. New York football has been in a tank for about a decade. You want to celebrate 15 quarterback hits, seven sacks, 400 yards of offense. Call it a lot to be excited about. Oh, by the way, they got a big. Bo Nix next week at MetLife.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Bo Nix, assuming he survives this weekend in Tampa, things are looking up for the New York football jets, Colin. Let's get excited. Good for you. Blazing five. Blazing five in one 45 minutes. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. On Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeard Radio app.
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Starting point is 00:18:51 but you just remember the negative stuff. I'm going to defend Aaron Rogers again on something. There was a moment last night, second quarter, when Aaron Rogers and Robert Sala had a really weird moment on the sidelines, where Aaron was obviously perturbed with Robert Sala when he came for the push, and I'm going to defend Aaron Rogers here. Sala for my money is too raw, raw. I like players to show emotion and position coaches to show emotion,
Starting point is 00:19:14 because they're the most closely associated with players. But the further you go up the coaching rung, I want a grown-up. I need poise. I need composed. I'll give you an example. Jay Wright-Villanova. They're facing North Carolina in the national championship game, and a shot goes through for Villanova.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Do you remember Jay Wright's reaction? Jay Wright, as good as any basketball coach collegiately in the last five, ten years? That's how you act. In the natty. in the moment circumstance and situation you should remain resolute by the way
Starting point is 00:19:49 remember the Andy Reed Travis Kelsey situation at the Super Bowl you know why that didn't blow up do you know why that was diffused can you imagine if you did that to Robert Sala it was diffused because of Andy Reid's temperament he just let it slide Sala is not a position coach
Starting point is 00:20:08 Aaron Rogers was right It was the second quarter. It was against awful New England. It's week three. Remember the Super Bowl. Bill Belichick, Pete Carroll. New England had controlled the game and here came Russell Wilson, a big completion down the sideline.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Literally was going to change the Super Bowl. Seattle was done. And Belichick on the sidelines just sat there and let the Seahawks burn a time out. He wanted them. He wanted C. Seattle to overreact. His team was prepared.
Starting point is 00:20:44 Kyle Shanahan looks like a cool poker player. You don't know if he's winning or losing. And again, I'm not against a fist pump. I'm not against some energy. But save that for position coaches, players, even
Starting point is 00:20:59 coordinators. Dude, unless it's the other coordinator's job, you can take the headset off and fist pump it. But to me, Sala, sometimes. is too rah-rah. You've got to separate from that stuff. The Belichicks, the Jay Wrights, the Andy Reid's.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Bark at officials. That's when Belichick uses his energy. Mike Shishowski, Roy Williams, bark at officials. But players look up to coaches to be the adult in the room. And that's what Aaron did last night. Bro, chill. Second quarter, New England, at home. Chill.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Here's Aaron after. He's not a big hugger, usually. So I don't know he was going for the hug. He likes to do the two-hand chest push as well. But he talks a lot about two-score leads. Yeah, again, it's not the end of the world, but it was on social media a thing last night for a couple of hours. And my take is Aaron's right.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Like, chill out, dude. There's no hugs. It's New England. It's home. We're leading. It's week three. It's second quarter. We just struggled.
Starting point is 00:22:08 We just got blown out by San Francisco and struggled to beat Well Levis. This is our job to do this. This is what we do. I'm paid to beat New England at home on a short week. That's when I'm paid. Don't celebrate a fundamental part of your job. Hammer, nail for a construction worker. You're paid to do that.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Talk on the microphone. I'm paid to do that. We don't pump fists after a good segment. Aaron's right here. J. Mack with the news. No. No. No, no.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Slight disagreement. Can I just read you Robert Salas coaching seasons with the Jets? Four and 13, seven and ten, seven and ten. The guy's excited. He can feel it. He can sense his team is starting to come around.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Let him show emotion. You love it when I'm, after you do a segment, we go to commercial. I'm like, that was strong, coward. I see you grinning. You like it. Infectious, energy, positive. That's all he's trying to do. I didn't like Rogers being like, dude, chill out.
Starting point is 00:23:09 I've been here, but it was a little off-putting from Rogers. But he had such a good night, I can't hate him for it. All right, let's get started. Let's get started with the Bengals. They started 0 and 2 for the third straight season, fifth time in the last six years. But they were a play away from one-in-one. We won't rehash the fourth and 16 flag against KC.
Starting point is 00:23:30 And they have a favorable matchup against the commanders on Monday night. Joe Burrow believes there's no reason to worry. We're in a fine spot. You know, we've been here before. We're not panicking, so we're focused on getting a win and getting better every day. We pride ourselves on us, you're not being able to tell if we win or lose at practice. We're going to go out and have fun and get our work in and get better. I have no concerns about Cincinnati.
Starting point is 00:24:02 I think they're going to reel off seven wins in eight weeks. I think they're going to be just fine. Yeah, I would agree. I don't know if we can... if we can you um i i'm in uh like i have a friend in the music business and he invited me to go see green day green day and smashing pumpkins and when i saw joe burrow on the screen there he reminds me of like a blonde version of the green day singer billy joe well he hung out and parish this off season yeah he is an interesting well i think my take is he's been injured multiple times and joe burrow is not
Starting point is 00:24:31 sure how long this is going to last and joe burrow said you know what man i'm going to live in the moment, enjoy the hell out of this. I'm going to go to Paris in the fashion shows. I'm going to dye my hair. I'm going to have a great year. I do not know how long this is going to last because I've had three serious injuries and one more of their draft than a quarterback. So I think he just said, man, I'm going to live in the moment. It's a very, very healthy way to live. I totally get it. It's like I'm going to live in the moment. I'm going to pump so wait, get jacked up, do my hair, go to Paris, be fashionable. I am there for Joe Burrell. I think it's a great, I think more of this, myself included, should do that. Live in the moment.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Stop planning everything, live in the moment, and just put it all in the line. And I just think all these injuries have added up to him waking up and realizes one more injury, they are drafting another quarterback. I'm sorry, they are. I mean, they might want to draft one anyway, just in case. I mean, Jake Browning was good last year. He was. It doesn't hurt to always draft a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:25:24 T. Higgins looks like he's trending toward playing this week on Monday night against the commander's line is seven. What do we see? Yes, seven. Is there an argument for the commanders who have, they look capable offensively? No, no, I think this is, I don't like to, if I do Blazing Five, I rarely predict blowouts. Even last night I thought it would be six, seven point game, close game. I don't predict blowouts, but if you told me there was a blowout, if you told me there was one game this week that was an absolute blowout, I would take Cincinnati a win by two, three touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:25:58 I think they're an angry team that's good at home. Now they're more fully staffed. Commanders, you know, they're feeling pretty good about how they're kind of, Jaden's getting better. This pass rush from Cincinnati, I think Cincinnati is going to. Well, it's mostly Hendrickson. I will say I don't think the Washington punted once last week against the Giants. They just could not convert in the red zone.
Starting point is 00:26:22 I do think the Bengals score a lot of points. They could hang 40 on Washington's defense. This is like, oh, wait, we've got Joe Burrow and T. Higgins and Jemar Chase. Washington really, I mean, you know what Washington's going to drive. draft next year. Secondary. Yeah. They just don't have the dudes. Like you just see, like, you can see certain teams and you're like, they're bad there. And so, unless they. Hunter? Travis Hunter, maybe play defense, unless he wants to play one. If I was Washington,
Starting point is 00:26:45 they're not going to have the first pick, but they have to go get a star in the back end. I mean, Baker Mayfield made them look like a seven-on-seven drill. It's brutal. Next up, the Dallas Cowboys coming off a, just a shocking blowout loss to the Saints. And now they match up with the hungry, angry, oh-and-two Ravens. in America's Game of the Week on Fox. Michael Irvin, remember earlier this week, made some comments about America's team. Now Emmett Smith is piling on, oh boy, you listen to this.
Starting point is 00:27:12 I'm not sure last week was just a debacle. It just was a debacle, period. And we didn't rise up like we should have. And maybe we don't have that talented of the football team to rise up and do what people expect. I feel like some of our players, whether it be on the offensive side or even on the defensive front, we could be playing with what I would call back in the day playing B and playing C guys.
Starting point is 00:27:43 I think that's very fair. That's been my argument that they have one great player CD-LAM who is good against any competition, any day, home away, any team. Micah Parsons and Dak Prescott are situationally elite players. Depends on where they're playing, who they're playing, who they're matched up against. CD Lam's their one great player. And there are teams in this league like San Francisco that have six to seven great players, Philadelphia, four to five great players, and multiple half dozen really good players. Dallas just didn't have that many great players. I mean, C.D. Lamb is separate from Micah Parsons.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Micah Parsons, been in three playoff games, has one sack. So is this way, is this his way of kind of needling Jerry Jones and being like, dude, you're picking the players, right? The Joneses are picking the players? Why are there only a few good players? and a lot of B and C type guy. That's not nice. Emmett Smith, I'm sure Jerry Jones is going to be ticked off at that, right? And he put together the roster.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Yeah, it's just they don't. I mean, again, there was a few years ago when they had Tyron Smith closer to his prime and Zach Martin closer to his prime. You know, there have been times in the last six, seven years. Amari Cooper, Zeeke was still in his, you know, go back a few years, but they've aged or move off them because they had to, because what they're paying X. So it's just, the roster's just, they got a couple of DBs I like, but you're not going to, DBs do not win Super Bowls. Pass rush is due, you know, weapons do, quarterbacks do, coaches do.
Starting point is 00:29:12 It's congrats on having good young corners. That's not, that's not changing things. Yeah, and the kid, a bland who had a good year last year, he's hurt. I mean, it's not looking good for Dallas and the schedule is brutal. Let's go to the final story, Colin. This is a Justin Herbert saga in Carolina. Remember, they stayed east, but Herbert is dinged. up, ankle heavily taped. He was on the practice field, but did not participate in any drills during the session open to the media. Now, I don't know if Harbaugh is playing games.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Rappaport has come out in Rapaport, NFL Network, and said he was extremely limited in practice. But is this gamesmanship? We saw it from LaFleur last week. Oh, Jordan Love, if he's in, he's playing. Obviously, he didn't play. But is this Herbert doing nothing when the media is there. Then they kicked the media out and was Herbert running drills.
Starting point is 00:29:59 We don't know. I don't know. This is a game I thought Chargers were maybe the side. I don't know if I feel that way. Because remember, Chiefs on deck. Do you trot Herbert out there? No, this is, so this was going to be one of my bets for Blazing Five, and I'll give you heads up. It wasn't.
Starting point is 00:30:15 And that's one of the things I thought about. It wasn't the injury as much, because I do think he'll play. But my takeaway is there are moments over the season. You're playing a huge rival next. your quarterback's dinged up where, like, if it went sideways fast and Herbert, they got behind early, I could see at halftime Harbaugh saying, hey, we're just kicking this one of the curb. Let's go get the Chiefs. I, this to me, is a game I just want to watch. I just, I want to watch this game because this team, even with Harbaugh, is not close to the same team without Herbert.
Starting point is 00:30:52 So there's another one of those games this week, kind of quietly, the Jordan Love situation. You see the Packers who they have next week? Divisional matchup with Minnesota. Do you put Jordan Love out there against Tennessee? No. Again, if you're not doing that, well, Tennessee's probably the side and here, Pittsburgh's probably decide, right? No, that's a good point by you. You don't.
Starting point is 00:31:09 By the way, that's another game I stayed away from. Play the long game, right? I'm not betting on the Chargers this week. I'm not betting on the Packers this week. Those are just because there's stuff going on where the quarterbacks both could play, but I'm not sure if I was a coach I'd play him with a big game coming up the following week. So then why not just take the other side and say, give me Tennessee and give me Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:31:27 I like certainties. I like answers, not questions. You like, yeah, I like, I tend to try to find value. What's the value for the chargers if Herbert doesn't play? They have no value. Yeah. Can you imagine backing Justin Fields, then watching him struggle might as well? Because listen, he hasn't had a turnover yet.
Starting point is 00:31:44 You know they're coming. That's what he's, that's his career in the NFL. And then you know the second you back him. It's just like, ooh, what did I do? J-Mac with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Ly News.
Starting point is 00:31:57 So, George Kittle may not play now for the Niners. So no Christian McCaffrey, no Debo, and probably no George Kittle. Basically, Brock Purdy and the San Francisco weapons have gone from stacked to normal. They still have a great offensive head coach and the best left tackle in football. And a dominant number one receiver, Brandon Iyke, number three PFF receiver, last year and a good second receiver in a Jennings. So they'll just be normal this weekend. By most standards, they'll have a normally weaponized offense.
Starting point is 00:32:39 But that's what franchise quarterbacks are about. It's not about winning when you have the best hand in poker. It's about winning when you're missing a right tackle and your number one receiver. No Debo, no Christian McCaffrey, and no kiddle. We all know you'd need those guys to win a Super Bowl. but against the dinged up Rams I don't care where the game is being played Brock Purdy should be okay
Starting point is 00:33:01 you should not need an abnormally stacked roster to be excellent it's like the band who releases a really good studio album and you're like well they're good in studio but you want to make sure like what you see them live first
Starting point is 00:33:22 queen great studio album better live at Wembley Stadium. I don't want to see Brock Purdy look like Millie Vanilly this weekend when the record skips and he's running off stage. Any, almost anybody can produce a good studio album. Let's go live in front of a few thousand people.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Anybody can do a banger in the studio. Anybody when you have Christian and Kyle and Trent and Kiddell and Dibeau and Iyuk to layup drill. Here was Brock Purdy about having to, oh my, having to carry a little bit of the offense. sense. We never asked Brock to really do too much. We asked them to do the play that's called. If nothing's there, what are your options after that? You scramble, you throw things away. Sometimes you take a sack. Things you always try to do is not turn it over, but nothing really changes when you're missing, guys. It's game plan can sometimes change, but not what you ask the quarterback to do.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Obviously, that's Kyle, not Brock, so we'll see. I know you all think I'm anti-this and anti-that. I'm not anti-Brock Purdy, but, you know, he does feel a little bit like a trust fund kid. You know, he basically gets all the gifts. I mean, it's like Magic Johnson got Kareem. Okay. But then Magic Johnson, that rookie year, Kareem gets hurt. He has to play center. Okay, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:34:37 But most people don't inherit Kareem in his prime. And I'm just saying, I'm not saying that some trust fund kids aren't hard workers and wouldn't have done well without the trust fund. But it helps a lot, right? You know, that money coming in every month. When you inherit Debo and now you. and Kiddell and Trent Williams and Kyle. I'm just trying to contextualize this a little.
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Starting point is 00:40:22 leads 22nd ranked Nebraska against number 24, Illinois, tonight at 8 p.m. Eastern on Fox. All right, we've got to talk about the Bears play the Colts. This is a really, really big game between two young quarterbacks who have enormous talent. Caleb Williams Bears, Anthony Richardson, Colts. So forget the results. When it comes to the Bears, I just want to see progress offensively.
Starting point is 00:40:46 I just want some progress. They have no run game. so far. No run game. 28 in the league. Their last and passing yards. Their offensive line was ranked 19th PFF. It's like having kids. I've lowered my expectations. At first I thought they could be president.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Then I'm hoping for employment. And now I'm just keeping them alive at this point. I'm just looking for something, a plan. It looks like they practiced. A semblance of a run game. The Colts don't have much of a run defense. And DeForest Bruckner's out. Their best defensive
Starting point is 00:41:16 linemen. So my take is if I am Chicago. Go back to the basics. Let's formalize a run game. Let's give some direction to the offense. Because right now it looks like intramural football. I'm just watching Caleb Williams run around. You can see the talent. He got a power arm.
Starting point is 00:41:31 He's a unbelievable athlete. He's got a power arm. This is not like Anthony Richardson of the Colts who can't make five-yard passes out in the flat. He's sling him into the first row. Greg Kosell was on yesterday. He talked about the good, the bad, the ugly with Caleb Williams.
Starting point is 00:41:48 There's a significant difference, which I think a lot of people are unclear about, between leaving the pocket and making plays with your legs outside the pocket and moving within the pocket. Those are two totally different things. That is an area that Caleb Williams needs to get better at. We know he can be great getting out of the pocket. And one thing that he has to stop doing in the NFL is retreating backwards. You can't retreat backwards in the NFL. There may be one quarterback I've ever seen that can do. do that and that's Lamar Jackson, but you can't play that way. So he has to learn to move within the pocket to sort of find a quiet space in which to deliver the football, because I'll tell you what, the ball comes out of his hand beautifully. Yeah, this is not an Anthony Richardson thing where you're not sure he's ever going to complete 50% of his throws. You can see the talent.
Starting point is 00:42:39 It's very similar to me that Josh Allen came into this league before Stefan Diggs. It was like year two. If you go do Josh Allen's numbers before Stefan Diggs got there, if you go to those numbers, he had 20 touchdown passes, that was it. Now, he had nine rushing touchdowns, and they won 10 games, but he was scrapping.
Starting point is 00:42:59 I mean, he was completing in the 58, 59%. That's what Josh Allen was doing, and that was with Brian Daybowl before he got Stefan Diggs. So Keenan Allen has not played. Keenan Allen's a great situational third down receiver. DJ Moore can go deep, but Keenan
Starting point is 00:43:14 your veteran piece, your big receiver, big target guy. So there's stuff here. There's other young quarterbacks, Bryce Young. I don't see the stuff. Like, I just don't see it. Or there's Bo Nix where there's talent, but there's limitations. Caleb's got everything. They've got to give him a run game.
Starting point is 00:43:34 They've got to look like something. Right now it's intramural football. So Dallas, Baltimore. So this is a game. I think I'm going to take Lamar over Dak, because I think the rosters are pretty similar. And I think both coaches have won a Super Bowl. But the funny thing about the NFL, I said this last night about New England.
Starting point is 00:43:51 New England beat Cincinnati in the first week of the season. Well, the first week of the NFL season in the last three years, you've had a huge upset in week one. Don't make anything of it. New England's bad. They're awful. And Cincinnati should have beaten in Kansas City the Chiefs. So Cincinnati's 0-2, but they're fine. New England's unwatchable.
Starting point is 00:44:12 I mean, actually, that should have been a beautiful game to watch last night. but it was really boring because New England is so bad. So if the Dallas Cowboys beat Lamar Jackson, and we know Lamar Jackson is virtually unbeatable when he faces the NFC, he's 20 and 1. Better winning percentage than Mahomes. He's 20 and 1. So if the Cowboys come out and win this game and they're at home,
Starting point is 00:44:40 then we can look at their season and go, well, they blasted Cleveland, and they beat Baltimore, it happens. Teams get blown out, and it does. Last year, the Chiefs, got blown out by the Broncos,
Starting point is 00:44:52 and they won the Super Bowl, 24 to 9. San Francisco got crushed a couple of times, once by the Bengals. The Lions got shredded by the Ravens, 38 to 6, and we think Detroit's pretty good. It happened.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Tom Brady had bad, bad week sixes, week eight. It happens. So if they go out and beat the Ravens, and I think, still think the Ravens may not make the playoffs, but it's a good team. It's a great coach. It's a great quarterback.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Great left tackle. I like their weapons finally. Great safety. Great center. They got some good players. And if Dallas wins, regardless of it's overtime, it's close, it's a situational. Whatever. Then you could look at New Orleans and go, yeah, it's a one-off. It happens. So, but I do think this game is important. And the reason it's important is Dallas did not get a friendly schedule. So we looked at their schedule and we thought, oh, they should beat Cleveland, New Orleans. The Baltimore will be the first tough game.
Starting point is 00:45:50 But after this, now you look at yourself and you go, New York's a pushover. Well, New York's offensive lines playing really well, and the Cowboys defensive line, according to PFF, is awful. So that could be a little closer than you think. There's a lot of Detroit, San Francisco, Atlanta, Philadelphia, Houston, Cincinnati. They had a lot of tough games for Dallas in their schedule. So this is like a big game. Okay, so was the Saints a one-off? And it happens.
Starting point is 00:46:15 They just get, you just get blown out. You just, you know, something sneaks up on you? You're not ready for it. I mean, New Orleans, we didn't know much. I mean, did I talk once in the offseason? Did J. Mack talk once about Clint Kubiak? It's just like, oh, they're really good suddenly. Houston snuck up on us last year.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Saints snuck up on us. Here was Micah Parsons on trying to slow down Lamar Jackson and the Ravens' run game. Toughness. Step up. They ain't other choice. going to come down hill whether or not Sunday night so it's not like a matter of all and are you
Starting point is 00:46:47 going to stop with this is you going to do it or not you know I know I'm ready for the match up by the way I want to go back to the top of the show and Aaron Rogers and because listen again
Starting point is 00:47:03 if New England loses to Cincinnati in week one we would have gone into last night's game going it's going to be ugly but they did didn't. And then we watched Cincinnati last week outplay the Chiefs and we're like, hey, New England took Seattle to overtime. They beat Cincinnati. And then it's three, week, four, week five, the longer the NFL season goes, the truth comes out. And so New England's bad. But I did think, and I've been from the beginning off season, I said the jets are a nine and
Starting point is 00:47:35 10 win team. They're not a 12, 13, 14, win team. I just don't think they have the depth offensively. I don't love their offensive coordinator, and now they got banged up injuries. But I did think the best part of this game as a Jets fan is Aaron moved. You've got to move in this league. I'm showing this to our TV audience. And again, I'm not asking for 37-yard runs, but can you get flushed out? Here's Aaron. He's flushed out. It's a big part of it. If you go to playoff games, it's amazing how often the game changes off script. Mahomes wins a Super Bowl on a bad leggy has a 40-yard scramble. That's the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:48:18 And so you don't have to be Lamar Jackson. In fact, I would argue if you're too gifted, you'll be prone to run more than you probably should. But you've got to move. I said this about Kirk Cousins on Monday Night Football. Kirk's never been a mover. But he moved in the pocket against the Eagles. I felt like first week against the Steelers, you're like, dude, he's just catching the snap, planting and throwing. He doesn't want to move.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Five, six more days of practice. Rehabing, it's like, oh, okay, that looks like the old Kirk, or closer to the old Kirk. So Aaron in the first couple of weeks, my big knock was he's playing within a three, four foot radius. Like you can't, you can't beat the good team, especially in the AFC. You're not beating a Burrell, a Lamar, a Herbert, a Mahal. Those guys are all moving. C.J. Stroud moves. C.J. Stroud's not a runner, but he can move.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Aaron last night, I thought, looked like Green Bay Aaron. he doesn't run when he first came into the league his first seven, eight, nine years. Now he ran and scrambled forward for yards. I just need a guy that buys time. And I thought Aaron last night, my take was, oh, this is good.
Starting point is 00:49:24 He's getting flushed out. Tom Brady's the outlier and the exception. Well, Brady. Belichick, Brady, Gronk, best quarterback of all time. Okay, that's total exception. Smartest guy that's ever taken a snap, pre-snap genius,
Starting point is 00:49:40 manipulated teams more than they could manipulate him. It's seen everything played forever, knew every DC, every defense, every coverage. That's not Aaron. He needs to move. Somewhat move. And I thought last night, I'm like, okay, all right, he's out of the little box, and that's good.
Starting point is 00:49:56 And again, I don't want to be cynical on the Jets because the bar is so low for New York football quarterback play since Eli Manning retired. Let's just celebrate that it was fun. Fireman Ed, fling that hat into the crowd. You know, have a good time. I get it. I think the margins are very thin on this team.
Starting point is 00:50:12 I think of a Breeze Hall or a Garrett Wilson. I mean, think about this week. Kittle's not going to play. Debo's not going to play. McCaffrey's not going to play. They're still favored by a touchdown. That's the Super Bowl teams. Tyreek Hill leaves the Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:50:26 They went back-to-back Super Bowls. The margins for Kansas City are not thin. Buffalo without Stefan Diggs looks really, really good. Joe Burrow without T. Higgins went to Kansas City Arrowhead. Should have won the game. That's not the Jets. If Garrett Wilson doesn't play, there is no receiver, including Mike Williams, that scares anybody on that team.
Starting point is 00:50:44 If Breast Hall goes down, margins are thin. The rookie running back from Wisconsin's a baller. He's a big, thick kid. You're not bursting, breaking 60-yard runs like Breece Hall. So the Jets margins are very thin. San Francisco's aren't. Right? Kansas Citys aren't.
Starting point is 00:51:01 Cincinnati can win without T. Higgins. In fact, they did last year. They won with a backup quarterback last year. Jake Browning had a winning record last year for Cincinnati. So let's remember, the jets are still five days, just five days away from escaping Will Levis. Thank God Will Levis turned it over. You're five days from that. That's not cynicism, I'm just trying to be honest.
Starting point is 00:51:30 Five days ago, you were sitting on your couch. You were like Tark, you had that towel in your mouth. You were like, can we get past? Will Levis five days ago. Let's slow down a little here. Is that negative? I'm just not going to address that. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Next question. Because I know that's a question thrown at my way. Oh, you barely survive Will Lovis. Yeah. I can play that game with Patrick Mahomes, too. Super Bowl, first two weeks. Not really, but okay. Hour two-plating five.
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