The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - Andrew Whitworth

Episode Date: February 7, 2025

Covino & Rich are live on Radio Row in New Orleans ahead of the Big Game! The guys chat with Rams Legend Andrew Whitworth on his transition from playing to broadcasting. The guys share hilarious s...tories from the week in New Orleans, from mistake identities to being emasculated by straws!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:35 just search Covino and Rich Live Meteoroe, New Orleans. You can have a lot of fun today. In fact, on today's show, I got Andrew Whitworth. Oh, I thought J.G. Wentworth was something. I totally misunderstood. He'll probably be rocking a blazer and a hoodie.
Starting point is 00:03:56 I was like, he's a real guy? No way. Bejohn Robinson, one of the top, are you three to five running backs in the NFL? In fact, Sequin Barclay called him a top. Top three. Exactly. So you never know who's going to stop by.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Radio Row. We've had lots of great guests all week. If you missed any of them, catch it on the podcast, search Covino and Rich. And I think Gary Vee will be on our bonus pod overpomis. So be sure to follow Overpromised on Fox Sports Radio's YouTube page. You know why on the bonus pod?
Starting point is 00:04:27 Let's be honest. Gary Vee does not like to keep it clean. No, yeah, he has a potty mouth. Gary V. We'll do that there. Anyway, come. Coming off another great night. We turned our hump day into a hump night last night.
Starting point is 00:04:41 We were at a great party with great people. We saw some colleagues and clients and friends and all sorts of people, man. We saw Colin Cowherd yesterday. That was cool to catch up with Colin. I met Jason McIntyre for the first time. Believe it or not, we never met the guy. I never met him. I saw Nick Wright.
Starting point is 00:05:01 People that, you know, you would think we may see more often, but we don't. I mean, like ships in the night. You know, you don't always see each other. You're on different schedules. You work in different places. So a lot of hobnobbing, a lot of boozing and schmoozing. And that's all part of the fun leading up to the Super Bowl itself. It's all the events and all the parties leading up to it.
Starting point is 00:05:22 So a great night, great time yesterday, and happy to be here today. As far as the boozing, part of the schmoozing. Shout out to the Rapid Radio, guys. Oh, my goodness. They party on a level that, I'll be honest, I have to admit it. I can't hang. I was like, I can't do any shot.
Starting point is 00:05:38 I think they held me down to do some shots at one point. Yes. They held you down. Remember that old cartoon where they hold down that dog and they pour gravy down? Yeah, yeah. It was kind of like that. That's what it's like partying with them. But, yes, such a great time.
Starting point is 00:05:50 No doubt. They drink like my uncle. They drink like Canadians. Yes. Or like college kids. I love it. Exactly. So, again, happy to be here today.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Thursday getting closer to the Super Bowl. And we got to talk about other observations. that we made at the party. We had another party, a lunch party earlier today. And two funny stories we'll share with you guys. We're going to get to a lot of NFL. A little preview, of course, as everything culminates with Super Bowl 59 on Sunday, Chiefs, Eagles,
Starting point is 00:06:22 everyone you ask says the same thing. No one knows because they're like, well, you'd be a fool to bid against Mahomes, but Sequan Barkley looks unstoppable. It's a narrative that everyone shares the same exact sentiment. Yeah, nobody knows anything. No one knows Queens of the Stone Age style. Now, I think we're going to say Tony Rich Project.
Starting point is 00:06:39 No, no, no one cares about that song. Let me. Nobody knows it but me. You just like one downed my cool reference with that weak-ass song. But anyway, sorry you don't like love jams from the 90s. No, I don't. I like Queens of the Stone Age much better. No one knows.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Nobody knows anything. But let me give a weak example. I pointed this out earlier. I think there's a lot of people that downplay the amount of press that athletes have to do, right? There's so many question, answers, press, people that want to say hello, taking pictures, signing autographs. It's Super Bowl Week, and we're part of the media. And being part of the media on Fox Sports Radio means we have to meet with a lot of sponsors. We have lots of meetings. There's always these business dinners and get-togethers. And Rich and I are exhausted.
Starting point is 00:07:29 I mean, exhausted. We're super hyped to give you our best for the next two hours. Don't worry about that. But deep down, we're exhausted. We're debating should we go out tonight. That's how exhausted we are. I feel lame by even discussing that, but I told me no, no, no, no. But my point in bringing that up is, Rich, can you imagine how they feel? How the athletes feel when everybody
Starting point is 00:07:48 and their mother wants a piece of them. They want to know how they're feeling. What's going on? Would you eat today? Where are you going later? You know, there's so much going on leading up to the game. It's just an added thing that people really don't factor in. You know, which is why they take the athletes that are
Starting point is 00:08:04 playing in the game and isolate him. Take him out of this mix. These are guys... It's exhausting. If you hear us talking to someone, it's always going to be an athlete that season's done, a retired athlete. The media for the guys in the Super Bowl
Starting point is 00:08:16 is isolated to a couple hours of press events, and then they're back to practice, back to planning. Yeah, my grandma used to say, you know why people get constipated when they travel? Because they're out of their comfort zone. They don't have their comfort. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:29 And imagine traveling that much during the year. These guys obviously are better. at it than we are, but it's a lot. It takes a lot out of you to go from, be pulled around from place to place, from media stop to media stop. You've seen, I saw this morning, Burrow being
Starting point is 00:08:46 harassed by 20 different reporters and everywhere he went, there were people surrounding him and I was thinking, man, he has to deal with that all day long. It's a young man's game. All year. Same with, you know, rock bands. Athletes, the amount of talking they have to do,
Starting point is 00:09:03 amount of press, the amount of traveling. We all know this. We have to do this for one week as a show, and it's so much and so exhausting, so you can imagine how these guys feel. Just trying to put it in every day, every guy's perspective. Not complaining at all.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Not complaining, just explaining. Just explaining. And Kavito's right. It's exhausting in a fun way to the point where I said to Kavino in the lamest way, yo, I'd be cool if we have a fun time doing the show, grabbing nice dinner,
Starting point is 00:09:33 get some rest tonight. And I feel so lame saying that because his events everywhere. Yeah, I'm protesting because the great award-winning Chris Stapleton is performing tonight. And as my better half texted me to tell you guys, she said,
Starting point is 00:09:50 tell them they are lame because people pay thousands of dollars to see this guy perform in large arenas and you have a chance to see them for free tonight in an intimate setting. Lamping in my hotel room sounds more enticing. At this point, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Yeah, we got to conserve our energy. I don't care about Chris Stapleton. I'm not a country guy, but. He's more than country, though. He's a little bit of wrong and roll. Yeah, yeah, he do. No, he rocks a show. Well, anyway, there's so much going on.
Starting point is 00:10:18 So you can imagine how these athletes feel. You see how Kavino just blew it off? End of the week. Hey, maybe we'll go. I'm not counting it out. But, again, we had another party earlier today. It was more of like a lunch meeting party. I don't even know how to describe it.
Starting point is 00:10:32 But again, there's so much. many events going on before the Super Bowl even happens. And two things happened I thought were really funny. One involves my buddy to the right, Rich Davis, and Fox Sports Radio's own, LeVar Arrington. Now, I, you know, he pulled the move that, you know what, the more thinking about it, it's one of those, have I been led astray for years? I get a cocktail at the bar. So like you said, it's a little lunch meeting with sponsors and all the people that help us here at Fox Sports Radio. And I'm in a conversation. It's myself, LeVar, and a bunch of people with Mako.
Starting point is 00:11:16 I know they do a lot of work, I think, with Colin or Dan. Yeah, Maco. Yeah. So I'm talking to these nice people. They were great. And LeVar's like, are you serious? He looks at my cocktail. You have a straw?
Starting point is 00:11:31 He takes the straw out of my. glass and he throws he goes you welcome be man be a man it never dawned on me that if you have a mixed drink or a cocktail are you no straw action I mean I never thought a straw it was like a feminine move it was a crazy straw a silly straw so that would be cooler it was the loop de loops so I thought that was a little odd yeah I learned that years ago one it looks lame if you're a guy it looks weak sauce if you're a guy to hold one of those feminine-looking wine glasses. Yeah. So you ask the bartender, please pour that in like a...
Starting point is 00:12:08 But is that overcompensating, Danny G? Like, I get it. There's a lot of people to criticize you. But is that trying too hard, like worrying too much how you're perceived, you know? Maybe, but there's a certain look that, you know, especially if you kind of got a rugged look to you, and suddenly you're sipping a straw out of an alcoholic beverage. They don't look right. I'll give you this, Danny.
Starting point is 00:12:28 No! If I get some type of tasty-looking martini, Rich always asks for a little umbrella. No, I'll ask the bartender. I'll say, yo, can you put that martini? Extra cherries. Can you put it in a rocks glass? And it's not because I'm insecure.
Starting point is 00:12:43 First of all, I think martini glasses are awkward, and I know I'm going to spill it. Right. But sometimes you do want to just hold the glass, but it never dawned on me that if I'm having a vodka soda, if I'm having a Tito soda, if I have a little straw, LeVar impersonate.
Starting point is 00:12:59 and had the Maco people laughing. Yeah, Rich was part of the joke. He's like, look at Rich Davis, and I'm, like, with his little straw. I jumped in, like, afterward when this happened. He said that you had the pinky up and everything. So imagine Rich Davis talking to clients, drinking a cocktail out of a straw with the pinky up. And he was coming down hard on Rich.
Starting point is 00:13:22 And then Rich said, well, Kavino does the same thing. So they were all waiting to see how I got my drink. and just coincidentally, I didn't get a straw. And Rich says, you always get a straw. But the truth is, and then Lavar got on me about this too. I only get a straw when I'm having iced coffee. Because someone once told me that it helps you not to stain your teeth because you're passing your teeth with the straw.
Starting point is 00:13:48 So if you're drinking an iced coffee, you use a straw and your teeth won't get stained as fast. I don't know if there's any truth of that whatsoever, but it got in my head and I've always done that since. So dumb question number one, because that's what we provide here on Kavino. But Rich was the butt of the joke, and it was great. And I'll be honest, I'm fine with it. I never mind being the butt of the joke.
Starting point is 00:14:07 But, yo, Levar was cracking me up. So shout out to our buddies at two pros and a cup of Joe, Jonas, LeVar, and Brady. LeVar was roasting me. And honestly, I felt like he was doing stand-up and I was the guy in the front row. You know, the crowd member getting roasted. So moving forward now, every time I get a cocktail at the bar, I'm going to second guess Can a grown man use like one of those
Starting point is 00:14:30 little bar stras? Yeah but you weren't using a little bar straw you were using a regular straw. Yeah, little bar straw comes with it, you stir it a little bit that comes with it. Rich was using a regular straw. It was a tall straw though like the ones you get in a big gulp at 7-11. I was saying back in the studios
Starting point is 00:14:46 you make the call Fox Sports Radio Nation. I was Samuel. What do you think, man? If you were out and about it, would you say no way to a straw or would you never even think about it? Yeah, I've heard that the like the regular Big Gulp straws and no-no, but you know, you take those little cocktail straws, and back when we were in college we'd go out to the bars, the dudes would like bend it over the rim and
Starting point is 00:15:06 hold it like that. That was the cool thing to do. Rich asked for a bendy straw, but they didn't have any. Yeah, they didn't have any. That's a shame. I don't think they have us anymore. Our buddy Wes. Our buddy Wes, I'll get on our feedback at Covino and Rich on Instagram and Twitter. I'm sorry, X. He said, bro, never use a straw. You're a grown man. I didn't know this was an issue. Rob and Philly hit us. Sometimes he just don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:29 No, no, no, no, because there was one time, this is another true story, guys, where sometimes you just lost the memo or you didn't get it in the mail or whatever. You threw this memo away with your junk mail. Someone said to me, wait, you still wear white briefs? And I'm like, not tidy whities. Let me make that clear.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Not tidy whities. Those are for superheroes and your dad. Not tidy whitties, but actual boxer briefs, right? Yeah, I thought he was joking. We were on a business trip. This had to be maybe 10 years ago. Someone was like, you wear white ones? I'm like, why?
Starting point is 00:15:57 No one wears white ones? I'm like, I've been wore white underwear since I'm nine. So, yeah, I took the notes, right? And I stopped wearing white ones. I didn't stop wearing them. You know, it's news to a lot of people that you're not supposed to use a straw when drinking a cocktail. But here's why it's important.
Starting point is 00:16:14 You know, if you are with clients or people you're trying to impress or, you know, you're going to get judged in a weird way, even though you shouldn't, you might. And LeVar was honest enough to call out rich. And, you know, we had a good laugh at his expense. Covino, what about wearing a big oversized hat? Look at, we're looking at Cam Newton. There he is. His hat.
Starting point is 00:16:33 You know what? The Mounties here are probably jealous of that hat. I know. I got to ask you, though. Imagine if he drank out of a straw with that hat. Are there other, how do I say this? Other later in life discoveries, we're like, oh, wait, I'm the only one that does that? How was I the last to know?
Starting point is 00:16:50 Can I tell you? I know there's going to be a ton of people being like, yo, richer and ass. you know my wife gets on me for something that I was like everyone does that and she goes no it's dangerous stop doing that
Starting point is 00:17:03 when I go to the gas station I pump my gas and I don't always turn my car off I don't either and she's like you she's I know I've been yelled that she's like the gas station might blow up I'm like baby that's like a 1950s rumor
Starting point is 00:17:16 somebody can flick a cigarette butt at you rich and you Dangerous guys dangerous But if my car's off it won't burst up Yeah, I don't know. I'm with Rich on that. Be safe. And again, we're from the East Coast where we pumped our own gas, you know?
Starting point is 00:17:29 So, I mean, we never pumped our own gas. I lived in New York, so. Right. Rich did. I didn't have from Jersey. Jersey people don't pump their own gas. Yeah, we don't know if you know that. We don't pump our gas.
Starting point is 00:17:37 We pump our fists. It's like Oregon people. So any other discoveries, feel free to chime in at Covino and Rich. If you think that it's fair game for Rich and maybe Levar was just a little too hard on and you can let us know. otherwise it's just a reminder to you that, hey, people are watching, and it could be perceived in a friendly way, but they do make their judgment. So keep the pinky down and don't use the straw. And there was another story, too. I got one of my buddies had never heard of this.
Starting point is 00:18:07 This is like one of those chivalrous ones. We were walking around town with another couple. And I was always taught to be a gentleman. The man walks closest to traffic. right oh yeah yeah and and you keep your wife or girlfriend on the inside that way if a car jumps the curb it hits you yeah you die yeah you die and my buddy shield that's why i do the opposite yeah yeah camido i'm trying to survive tv tv tv i was like we married you're gonna go first i had a buddy be like i've never heard that and he's like so every girl i've been with thinks i'm rude i'm like maybe
Starting point is 00:18:40 because if you if i'm telling you now so if you guys have any examples of course 87799 on fox It's a little fun icebreaker here on Fox Sports Radio today because I'll be honest, we are surrounded by football, and I feel like we've had 18 weeks plus playoffs, an amazing NFL season that all culminates in a couple days. So just chopping it up on people about something stupid like straws was a good break from football. Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Again, chime in at Covino and Rich at Fox Sports Radio. Thanks again for all the feedback. There was a side story before we get into, hanging with Andrew Whitworth, a side story about our boss. Let's just say our boss, and we'll get to it later on. No doubt. Hey, your thoughts at COVID-O-Roch. I'm going to check our feedback now because there has to be other examples of this.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Like, you never knew. Like, how did my dad forget to teach me? Did I just miss this day? You know, not to call out our buddy spot who does all the videos again with Elijah and Sop. Lots of videos, guys, at Covino & Rich, at Fox Sports Radio, so he could play along at home. You know, he didn't date a lot in his younger days. He just didn't. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:19:56 He married his first girlfriend. He didn't date a lot. Now he's making up for lost times. So nobody taught him about condoms? Nobody taught him, honestly, like simple things. Like, don't walk ahead of your girlfriend. Don't walk ahead of your wife. And you see that now.
Starting point is 00:20:09 He's so rudely walking ahead of the pack all the time. He does that with his wife. But he's never been, like, how many times you've got to be kidding, me. by like a girlfriend or like, stop walking ahead of me. And you realize as a young man, like, oh, yeah, I guess that's rude. Like, he never knew any of those things. Not to sound sexist. But our buddy Spot didn't know, like, one of the major rules of women,
Starting point is 00:20:30 which is they're not always, they may say something, but they don't mean it. Right. Spott's wife, when they were dating, got in an accident. She's all good now, but she hurt her knee. She was in the hospital about to get knee surgery. And she said, you don't have to come visit me at the hospital. Just do what you're doing. And he's like, okay.
Starting point is 00:20:50 I'm like, dude, that's code for. Two weeks. Dave, I want you at the hospital. He's like, yeah, but she said that. I'm like, you never learned the lesson of like she might not be telling you. So sometimes if no one ever told you, how are you supposed to know. Kavana said he learned that lesson what his mom said, you don't need to get me anything at the Mother's Day book fair. And he said, okay, you learned that when you were nine.
Starting point is 00:21:13 No, it was a holiday boutique, which, get it right. Okay. So, anyway, if you have any other examples, let us know. Sam, you got one? I hear I was Sam. Oh, I was Sam's like, I know everything. All right, well, guys, we have Bijan Robinson stopping by later today on the show. We still have lots of football to talk about, lots of moves in basketball.
Starting point is 00:21:33 There's even fight updates, so there's so much more to get to. Oh, you know what I thought about with you? Because I know you admire Steph Curry's game. And Jimmy Butler is your favorite, like, rando player. Yeah. How do you think that's going to work out? Man, I think
Starting point is 00:21:49 he's going to do well there. Playoff, Jimmy's going to step up. They're going to be better as a result, but so many other teams are making so many better moves. Yeah, they're not beating a couple teams we could talk about later in the West. So I think they got better, but not good enough.
Starting point is 00:22:02 So, hey, NBA, of course, the backdrop. We're here. New Orleans Super Bowl Week. And coming up next, we're joined by a guy that rocks a jacket and a hoodie harder than anyone I've ever seen. Harder than anybody.
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Starting point is 00:27:12 Hey, is Kavino and Rich Fox Sports Radio, and there he is, Rams Legend. What's up, man? Big Witt. Offensive tackle, NFL hosting analyst on Prime. Let's welcome Andrew Whitworth, everybody. Yo, what's up, Dave? How are we doing, baby? Dude.
Starting point is 00:27:28 We're good, man. First off, I know you're a big dude, but in person, you're a house. People need to understand. Six foot seven, beefcake. Pleasure to meet you, man. Hey, Mr. Clean, what's up? man i brought a friend today can i tell you springer friend day i totally should have effed with him because he was like so whitworth's he's going to be playing mr clean in a super bowl ad ago no oh shit i should
Starting point is 00:27:46 have said yes you should have that would have been good how do we know he's not though i don't know we don't know i like the idea though yeah right so hey man thanks for your time thanks for being here obvious thing out of the way when we were getting ready this morning i really was going to wear the jacket and the hoodie and i'm like no that's his thing i can't so you kind of ruined it for everybody but is there a partnership in the works here or what You got to have people reaching out to you. Yeah, that's what I keep saying. The biggest thing I've missed out on is I don't have a hoodie line.
Starting point is 00:28:12 You know, I should have my own brand of hoodies. That's for sure. Maybe that may we'll work on that. You have to. We've got to get that done. That's for sure. Amazon, come on, what are we doing? We're wasting time.
Starting point is 00:28:20 I like it. You know, listen. It's a good look. I need to get it done. It's been fun. You know, it's something I always wore hoodies. Being a big guy was obviously a much bigger human, even bigger than I am now. When I was playing, you know, you hate colored shirts.
Starting point is 00:28:32 It's always like sat out. Like, two buttons, no chance. It just like never worked. There's always the button misplacement. Listen, I couldn't button any buttons because my neck was so big and my back was so big. So, I mean, you know, I just hated them. And so I got into wearing hoodies and T-shirts like everywhere I went. So I either wore a jacket and a t-shirt or wore a jacket and a hoodie.
Starting point is 00:28:50 And I happened to wear a hoodie and a jacket to our first dinner at Amazon. And they're like, you look good in that. Like, would you want to wear that for the game? Like with a suit? And I was like, yeah. And it's become such a thing. And it's a thing. Like either people hate it or they love it.
Starting point is 00:29:03 And it's great. Like people are literally like, dude, you're a disgrace to the game of football. They're like, because you have a hoodie on on TV, which I think is just like crazy in Aden and then there's people who are like constant DMs, like please do the brand. I need the brand. Like I'm getting my husband something for Christmas or my wife loves these. I'm going to get a bunch because she wants me to wear them. So it's just it's awesome to see how explosive it is.
Starting point is 00:29:24 People either just absolutely love it, hate it. And then some people have kind of come around over the years. And they've like, hey, dude, I didn't like it at first, but now I kind of like it. You know, it's refreshing because we've talked for years about how the sports world, It's a bunch of dudes drinking and hanging. Oh, yeah, yeah. But yet, in the broadcasting world of sports, suiting up, it doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Like, all the guys that are watching or wearing t-shirts, hoodies just chilling. Yet it's like, it's my favorite, like when you watch teams travel, right? Like, the reality is, dude, like, when you're like, oh, man, this team doesn't dress up. Like, the guys who, like, I know old schools, like you wear a suit when you travel on the plane, you land on the, like, here's the truth.
Starting point is 00:29:58 We wear T-shirts and shorts and probably aren't even wearing underwear to work on most days with flip-flops. Like, we don't. work that kind of job. We show up and put on pads and play football. So like the whole idea of us wearing business suits or any of that is like it's just crazy. So it is funny like that. You're almost just playing a character to show up to the game. You don't ever dress like that, ever. Ever. But all of a sudden you put on a suit to go put on your pads and your jersey. Yeah, to talk to some guy with face paint on. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Yeah, Andrew, we're worth hanging with Kavito and Rich. So the transition to the broadcasting world for you, Everyone seems to love you, which is great, because I wanted to ask, do you think people and fans are more critical of players or announcers these days? It kind of feels like it's starting to become more about analyst announcers. It's wild, right? Yeah. And so it's interesting. I think for me, it's one of those things that it's been fun to kind of figure it out over the last three years, like who you kind of feel yourself being and where you want to go with it. Because there's so many lanes you could.
Starting point is 00:30:59 And I think to me, you look at some guys get in and they want to have a hot take because they just want to. to get people to splash on, you know, coming after them, and they love the attention. And then they don't like that everybody gets mad at them. And then they kind of back off a little bit and kind of change their tune or other guys maybe don't say enough. And you're like, man, I'd love you to have something more opinionated. I think they try and find themselves. I think for me, it was like, man, I just want to be like really good at being true to
Starting point is 00:31:22 who I am. And like, if whatever's coming on my mouth is like just what I feel. And like, it's not about a take. It's not about an emotion. Like, it's just in my emotion in that moment. When I'm watching this play, this is what I feel like. that needs to be better. This is what I think's awesome.
Starting point is 00:31:35 I don't want to give praise to. This is a guy that I feel like is doing it the right way. Or this is somebody that feel like, man, they really need to check themselves because I can see the problems they're going to come down the road for them if they don't do X, Y, and Z. And so I think to me, it's just if I can stay authentically me
Starting point is 00:31:48 through that whole process, that's what's the most important thing. Yeah, you don't have to question it, right? Yeah, when I get done, like, listen, if people like me or not, or they like the hoodie or they like my body, like that's for them. Like, that's for them, like, they're going to decide whether they like me or not. But I think what they'll appreciate is like this dude's always him. He never needs to be a character to be himself.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Like he is just him. And that's why people like it. And that's why I try to stay. Andrew Whitworth here with Kavino and Rich. He played most of your years with the Bengals. Then you went with the Rams. What was that transition like? What do you think Luca's going through right now?
Starting point is 00:32:17 And your boy Cooper Cup, who might not be on the team, isn't going to be on the team moving forward. What was that like for you, man? Yeah, it was obviously a massive change in life. I mean, Melissa, I had four kids that were, you know, basically at that time, five and under. So, you know, we were 5, 5, 4, and I think two when we made that move. And so it was a massive move to move across the country and obviously been an amazing blessing and changed our lives for sure. Not that we didn't enjoy Cincinnati, but it was just a wild change in adventure, right, which adventures usually do. But then I look at like other guys have experienced that,
Starting point is 00:32:52 you know, you look at Luca right now. I mean, that's a big, massive change as well, right? I kind of called it out when he went. I tweeted out, like, you know, last time they got 77 in L.A. Good things happened, right? Yeah. And I even realized that it actually happened for the Kings, too. They got Jeff Carter and won two Stanley Cups. He was number 77 as well.
Starting point is 00:33:11 He used to play for Philadelphia. So it's actually happened two times in a row. So now, Luca, Trafecta. Let's go, babies, yeah. 7-7. Let's go. Sevens. Let's win another one in L.A.
Starting point is 00:33:22 That would be fantastic. And talking about Coop, man. Listen, unbelievable human, you know, life's been changed just from being around this guy. His impact on our locker room, his impact on the players, the coaches, the building. He is a really special human being and an incredible knowledge of the game. I mean, any team that gets him, man, if I was a team young quarterback, new coordinator, any of that type stuff, man, this is going to be the smartest guy in the room, maybe even smarter than the guy who's calling the plays.
Starting point is 00:33:51 and you want that guy to be able to articulate what it looks like, the spacing, the time, and the rhythm, snap in and snap out, what's the vision for how we want to look? Cooper is going to be like having a Sean McVeigh, but as a player on the football field for you. And I think that's something really, I think only for the Rams it's because they have Puka. It's like, all right, and you've trained Puka.
Starting point is 00:34:13 But for another team, man, I would be saying this is the kind of dude at whatever I got to do to get them in my locker room for my young receivers and my young quarterback. I'll do it. talked to Puka about it yesterday. He seemed bummed. On a flip side, when your buddy leaves the team, that's got to be tough too. And we heard you reached out to him because you guys are like family. When you went together, it's a deeper bond. Yeah, yeah, definitely. And, you know, obviously, it's raw emotion when something like that happens, right? And so you're upset. I mean,
Starting point is 00:34:38 no matter what, that's not what you want to hear. It's going to happen. Cooper's the kind of guy, like, he's going to respond to that adversity in an amazing way. But, man, you talk about the impact he's had on Puka and every second they spend together in so many ways that don't you have to do with a football field. Puka will be forever changed. And in his mindset, his mentality, like his daily approach and process to how he chase his greatness because he got to be around Cooper. So with that entire receiver room and much less that the entire locker room.
Starting point is 00:35:07 So, you know, I think that's why I mean Coop's going to have a huge impact. But a guy like Puka, you've gotten to see what it looks like. What does that chase look like? What is the work day in and day out look like? Can you now go be that? I always say that as a player when you get in the league. It's like you get drafted. you get this opportunity to, like, show who you are and trying to make a name for yourself.
Starting point is 00:35:24 And, all right, whoa, this guy's going to move to that next contract. He's a guy who's going to make it to a second contract. But then it becomes, all right, you're great. What's your impact on everybody around you? What's your impact on our offense? What's your impact on our group? Not just about just you. And you have to take those little steps all throughout your career.
Starting point is 00:35:41 Pookas is just getting accelerated a little bit with Cooper leaving, but he's got to become a leader of that group and he's built to do it. And you were a leader on the Rams. He's one of the guys that even if you're not a Rams fan, when he won, people are happy for you. It was like, man. Pretty epic. Andrew Whitworth, feel a good story. The transition to broadcasting, people love you there.
Starting point is 00:36:02 So you're a comfortable guy in who you are because people like you. But when you get up there and address a stadium and a country after the wildfires, first of all, how early do you find out you're doing that? And even a guy like you, did the nerves kick in? Like, oh, crap, what am I going to add? Yeah, you know, it was wild. We were actually doing Thursday night. You know, Amazon on Prime, we had our first NFL playoff game.
Starting point is 00:36:25 So we're doing Steelers Ravens in Baltimore. And so I'm going to that game and I get a text on like, I think it was Friday or something. They're like, hey, the league's got like a cool opportunity. They think like it would be awesome if since the game's getting moved, you know, for you to maybe address our fans and blah, blah, blah, blah. And like, I'm thinking in my mind this is like, oh, okay, like sometime way before the game starts, just fans that are there. I'm going to get, you know, and then as I'm realizing like, oh, no, no, no, this is like
Starting point is 00:36:53 right before the game kicks off. Yeah. So it's like you kind of got to get nerds. And I get to get there to the game. And I realize that they've got this Beyonce stage. I'm going to stand on, as I called it, because it's like this elevated stage. And then like, it's ESPN and they give me my headset. And they're like, oh, Joe Buck's going to say you're down there.
Starting point is 00:37:11 And then there's this guy's going to say go. And I'm like, oh my gosh. Like this is live Monday night football playoff game. It's go. So I will say that is probably the most nervous I've been for like something because that was you have 40 seconds. Yeah. We're going to say go. The National Anthem starting in 40 seconds.
Starting point is 00:37:31 Get it out. Whatever it is. Heart pounding out of your chest nervous. Oh, yeah. Because it's like you got 40 seconds. He's going to say go. The National Anthem starts. You don't have a clock anywhere.
Starting point is 00:37:41 So you're hoping what you just said is 40 seconds. It was real. Like I was a little like afterwards like, all right, that was intense. Were your kids like, Dad, that was cool? Did your kids now sort of understand more of what dad does? It was honestly awesome, not just for my family, but just people really across the country, across sports just in general, that were watching that game and kind of felt that emotion and probably had some feeling they were feeling about everything that had been going on anyways
Starting point is 00:38:06 that reached out just with love and stuff from that. It was a really cool, like you try to pull your passion and all out and give it to people and tell them how much you care about them, but then to also get it back from people was a really neat moment. Andrew Whitworth, as an analyst, and by the way, you're doing a great job. I have one last question, because it's probably going to be the topic of discussion
Starting point is 00:38:26 if Mahomes wins. Four in six years, is that better than seven in 23 years? Is he the go? It's going to be an ongoing thing. Gotta hit the conversation. But you know, if it takes over LeBron MJ, then at least it's not that, right?
Starting point is 00:38:40 I do agree with that. I would rather not discuss any of them. But I know what I say, here's what I keep, you know, I keep saying, I do think he is Michael Jordan. I will say that. Now, whether people think that Michael Jordan's to go to basketball
Starting point is 00:38:52 or not to go to basketball, blah, blah, blah, blah. I just think that's who he is in our game. When you look at all the great players that he's blocking from their opportunity, when you look at Josh Allen, you look at Lamar Jackson, and you think of Jordan in those eras and all the people would have had a championship if they just didn't have to face him.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Poor Barclay and right. I do think that. But I think it's hard to argue that the winningness because I think that that probably says that you have to stay with Tom because of all the, you know, all the trophies. But the best, you know, I don't know. I was having a coach other night with an NFL head coach and it was like, hey, I don't know, he might be the best, though. The three people, right? He might be the best it's ever played.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Wow. It's wild. It might not be the winningness, but he is probably the best. It's never going to stop. You're here with Mr. Clean Magic Eraser. And by the way, I'm taking these home because these are the best thing to clean your sneakers. Yeah, man. I'm just about to say for the sneakers, they're ideal.
Starting point is 00:39:46 These are the most... I wear a lot of white sneakers on the road with our show, so I have to have, you know, magic erasers. I was to say, not only for, like, clean around the house, I'm always like, I always tell my wife, I'm like, put one aside from my sneakers. Look how fresh these sneakers are he's got on right now. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:59 And people don't realize the Mr. Clean Magic Racers, best thing to use for the little smudges on your white sneakers. Oh, there's no doubt. By far. And when you want... I got four kids and three dogs. I got a lot of things, magic erasers are good for all. Oh, yeah, they're great for them.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Oh, little smudges on the wall, too? Oh, buddy. Spragues on the wall. Spaghetti balls were bouncing on the wall. I get hair dye. How do you think my hair's jet black like this? Hair dye splashing on the wall. I got to clean it off with the magic eraser, man.
Starting point is 00:40:22 Thank you guys. Yeah, before you go, Andrew Whitworth here with Kavino and Rich. A couple weeks ago, Sequin said that touchdown in the snow was his best moment ever. Was your one touchdown a memory you'll never forget? Because you have one touchdown, right? I do. One for one for one yard, one touchdown. One route, one catch, one yard.
Starting point is 00:40:41 That's amazing. On my birthday. Oh, really? Oh, that's great. 12, 2012, 2010 in Pittsburgh opening drive of the game. Fun fact, I actually think that we need to get the NFL history on this. I need to get the league to do this. I was the only offensive touchdown scored in that game.
Starting point is 00:41:00 So Steelers had two pick sixes, I think, and beat us in a low-scoring game. But I was the only officer. So I would love to know how many games that offensive linemen has been the only offensive touchdown in the game. On their birthday. On their birthday. Definitely. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:41:15 I'm just looking for a record. Definitely. You're just looking for a record. Thank you. Yeah. Love watching you now. Appreciate you, man. We got more.
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Starting point is 00:46:06 And I do want to thank Andrew Whitworth. again for stopping by, super cool. We got Bejan Robinson later on in this show. I'm excited about that. And after the show on Overpromised, our bonus pod live from Radio Row here in New Orleans, Gary Vaynerchuk, Gary Vee will be on Overpromised. That's on Fox Sports Radio's YouTube page. All right.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Now, again, Bejohn Robinson coming up, Gary V on the way. But, Kavino, there's one more layer to today's story we never got to before we get to more NFL. there was a story where we're meeting all these people, Radio Row, lunches, dinners, convention center. There's one of the clients for Fox Sports Radio that went up to our buddy Weiss, who works in the promotional marketing team. He's the guy that's responsible putting together the set,
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Starting point is 00:47:16 As we're laughing about all this, we're with our boss, Don. Don Martin, the big guy that runs Fox Sports Radio, Iheart. Yeah. Some older woman infiltrates our circle, and she's like, excuse me. Yeah, she like part. She separates us to get to him. She parted the sea. Yes, she did.
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Starting point is 00:48:06 He's got that look about him, right? He does. Are you saying he has a perm? No, he has quarterback face? My question to you, has anyone ever mistaken you for a celebrity? And my Super Bowl tip is, I always say this. If you're over 6-2 and you're a black man, go to the Super Bowl, you can tell any woman you play for the NFL, and they will believe you,
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