The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - Are the Bills back?

Episode Date: September 24, 2024

Colin admits he's falling back in love with the Bills even though he knows they'll probably end up losing to the Chiefs again in the playoffs The Bengals don't like to spend money and it showsSee omny...studio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:56 on the IHeart Radio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. All right, it is a Tuesday. A couple of NFL games last night, live in L.A., it's the herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening, thanks for making us part of your day. By the way, one hour from now, the herd hierarchy. Somebody's going to be made. at me. Somebody is not going to be happy with me. I am willing to go out there. So, J-Math, we all feel Kansas City's the best team in the league. But what I witnessed last night makes you wonder. Well, Buffalo's winning the Super Bowl now. Buffalo 47, Jacksonville 10. That was more about the Jags. Come on. Jags are terrible. Awful. All right. Well, you have to be
Starting point is 00:03:55 willing to fall in love, even if in your life you've been burned or you've been dumped, you've been singed, happens to everybody. I've been burned so many times by the Buffalo Bills. I don't even like going into the kitchen. I don't like getting near the oven. I've been burned so many times. And they'll probably lose in mid-January to Kansas City again in the AFC championship. It'll be like 27, 24.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Josh Allen will make a big mistake. He'll play well. He's Superman. He'll put on a cape and jump over linebackers with a single bound. And then Mahomes will rip your heart out. He'll have the ball last. Yeah, that'll probably happen again. I mean, what's going to change, right?
Starting point is 00:04:36 Same quarterback, same coach. Clearly, Kansas City is in everybody's head in the AFC and perhaps the NFC. But this time it feels a little different. I'm willing to fall in love and get burned again. First of all, Joe Brady and Josh Allen, they're nine and one together. no more Stefan Diggs drama, and they feel more balanced. I get all the Josh Allen horsepower, but with more efficiency, more balance, and without all the silly mistakes, I don't know. Maybe it'll be just, you know, like what I've seen, but it does feel more balanced.
Starting point is 00:05:14 It does feel more, it feels more like a complete team. And that's what Kansas City is now. They're actually defensive led. It's not Travis, Kelsey, and Mahomes. This kind of feels like I get the horsepower, but without the mistakes. And that feels like the outcome would be different. And maybe it's just because the AFC doesn't feel quite as powerful. The Bengals defense is just not good enough to end up in a conference championship.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Chargers feel like they're probably a year away. They'll be good, but a year away. I mean, the Ravens just don't feel right. losing it home to the Raiders. The Texans are remarkable, but they have a young quarterback and they're a young team. Buffalo's not, and Kansas City's not. And it feels like they've separated from the AFC. I'm going to put myself out there one more time.
Starting point is 00:06:07 I'm willing to fall in love again. I think it's different. I'm sure almost it's absolutely different. And I looked at the schedule this morning, and I'm willing to make the commitment before the next three games at Baltimore, at Houston at the Jets. Maybe, maybe in three weeks I'll look up and go, okay, yeah, there's a lot of home games. Jacksonville to J-Max Point. Come on, give me a break.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Those guys barely care about football. But I don't know. I'm watching it, and I get all the torque without the turnovers. It feels different. I like them. I'm willing to have my heart ripped out in January because I'd like to see them win. I watch the Jim Kelly teams. and they were great, but there was the Cowboys, and this team is great.
Starting point is 00:06:54 It feels great, but there's the Chiefs. But Sean McDermott says it's different too. When I saw us working together, all three phases, supporting one another at times, and that was good to see we're going to need more of that moving forward. And Josh, you know, I think he hit 10 different receivers. and his influences felt not only through his play, but just the way he's leading our football team. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Then there was the other game. For the record, not a big fan of two games on Monday Night Football. Thankfully, one was a blowout so it could concentrate on the other, which was the better game. And everybody's going to talk about Jaden Daniels, but that team didn't go into a season, nor are they a championship team. Now, I did have Washington making the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:07:41 They were my surprise team in the NFL, so this morning I'm feeling pretty good about that. Yesterday I said the Ravens were going to win seven in a row. I was hacked yesterday. I don't know what happened there. But let me just say this. It was really about Joe Burrell last night. Not his side of the ball, but it was about the organization.
Starting point is 00:07:59 He's made them relevant. But he alone can't make them champions. They're 26th in scoring defense. And that's having played New England in week one and a rookie quarterback in week three. They're garbage. They've got a pass rusher. But Cincinnati's always been a cheap. organization, always forever.
Starting point is 00:08:17 And there's a reason why teams like the Bears and Detroit and Cincinnati have had great players. Their team Hall of Fame are amazing. But they never quite it feels outside of those 85 bears, it never quite
Starting point is 00:08:33 feels like they're willing to step up and go all in and pay the big money. Right? I mean, Jaden Daniels, and I think he's going to be terrific, averaged 11 yards of completion. He didn't look like that until last night, and I like him. But Cincinnati's a cheap franchise.
Starting point is 00:08:49 They've moved off defensive players on the back end, and you saw it last night. And what does cheap mean? They have been working and moving off defensive players for two years. They haven't even paid Jamar Chase yet. They haven't paid T. Higgins big money yet. The Joe Higgott, the Joe Burrell contract really hasn't officially gotten ugly and kicked in yet. And they're already moving off defensive players. They're cheap.
Starting point is 00:09:13 I'm sorry they are. and great players win games, great organizations sustain success. I mean, we can talk about Mahomes all you want. That offense isn't very good right now, and Mahomes isn't great. But the GM, Brett Veach, they hit on so many of their draft picks. I mean, defensively, they just keep hitting on guy after guy, after guy. The coach, Andy Reid, wins those close games with a clever game-changing call at the end situation. like you can't just pass that off as hey it's my homes no that's not it tom brady from ernie annes
Starting point is 00:09:53 annes to dante scarneccia to moving off west welker and finding a quarterback from kent state and three years later julian edelman looks like a better version of west welker i mean it's just you you can't pass that off yeah tom won a super bowl in tampa but that thing unraveled pretty quickly right because that's what organizations like cincinnati do and and again burrow has made them relevant at times spectacular there's no question about that i am not denying that he's made them viable but players win games organizations eventually win championships it is not a coincidence that brady and mahomes had the best coach in their era and strong player development new england went sideways at the end when bill bellichick thought i can be gm and coach
Starting point is 00:10:45 Andy Reid doesn't do that. That's why they continue to draft so well. So I look at this game and you go, Jaden Daniels, I'll get the Jaden Daniels after the break. And I've said before is I liked him. I thought he was going to be a hit. I thought Washington was going to be a playoff team.
Starting point is 00:11:01 I think Cliff Kingsbury was a tremendous hire. It's amazing how many of these coordinator hires, like when Nick Sabin went and got Lane Kiffin, people scratch their head at, or Cliff Kingsbury failed in Arizona. Why would you hire him? Some guys are just coordinators. and they're great coordinators, and some guys can be great head coaches, so Washington is going to work.
Starting point is 00:11:19 I think Washington has a chance in this division right now. I like him more than Dallas today. I really do, and I like him more than the Giants. I don't like him as much as Philadelphia, but I think they can make the wild card. But this, to me, watching the game was about Joe Burrow. He's done everything. He's made him viable. He's made him interesting.
Starting point is 00:11:34 He got him to a Super Bowl. But they have been terrified for two years. They just keep moving off defensive players. They're not even paying Jamar Chase yet. And they're already moving off the back end of their defense. and they're on three and I don't know what happened yesterday I was hacked
Starting point is 00:11:50 they're not going to win eight straight and here was Joe after we're not happy with where we're at but by no means is the season over we're own three it's 14 left to play we just have to continue to get better
Starting point is 00:12:09 and you know see where the cards fall in the next you know 10 weeks Listen, you don't have to be great defensively to get to a Super Bowl. You can't be what Cincinnati is. You know, moving off defensive player years ago, you know, Jesse Bates, guys like that, Vaughn Bell, they're moving off guys.
Starting point is 00:12:32 They keep on pass rush or they're moving off guys. They want to make sure they got room. This is why Cincinnati didn't have a big trophy room. You're all in or you're not. When you get a burrow, you go all in. You just, if you got to pay more as an owner, You just do whatever you got to do and pay whatever you got to pay. Go look at Carson Palmer in his prime.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Did the same thing. Carson Palmer made, and he was great. Burrow and Palmer were great NFL quarterbacks. Made the organization viable. But in the end, Carson didn't have an organization that would go all in. Wouldn't even consider a practice schedule, a practice facility. Steelers could have one and Ravens have money. And, you know, it's just.
Starting point is 00:13:17 At some point, a quarterback has limitations. As great as they are, they all have limitations. Organizations sustain success. The star player, even a quarterback, makes you viable. J. Mack, I don't know. I've had my heart broken a few times. I am willing to go all, I'm not even going to wait for the three-game roadie for Buffalo. I'm not even going to wait.
Starting point is 00:13:44 I am already, I bought an engagement ring for the bills last night. I am going all in. I don't even care. Pride deliberate tomorrow the next day. I don't even care. I'm willing to be burned. So who'd they beat one win, Arizona, and the opener. Arizona looks pretty interesting.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Arizona looked frisky. They came back to Earth a little bit against Detroit. Who'd the bills beat last week? The team that was in front of them? Yeah. Oh, so basically they're beating a bunch of weak. No, no. They're not beating them.
Starting point is 00:14:11 They're destroying people. So that matters a lot, huh? Just pummeling the Miami Dolphins. Tua and Skyler Thompson, and now they beat up on Trevor Lawrence and the hapless Jags. I'll wait to reserve judgment. Let me see what they do against the Ravens. You can be reticent. You can sit on the sidelines.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Some of us jump all in. Some of us are going all in emotional. Jets are still winning the division. Lock that. Remember, you've got to wear a Jets tank top or just a tank top in general. I never signed a contract for that. That video of that big guy. Just like yesterday's show in the Bengals 8-game winning streak.
Starting point is 00:14:46 It's all disappeared into the ether. By the way, Bengals, Panthers, a sudden is a smash spot for the Bengals, right? Come on, they bounce back. Yeah. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. On Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app.
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Starting point is 00:19:02 Open your free, iHeartRadio app. Search Learn the Hardway and listen now. Well, there were three really noisy teams in the National Football League this offseason. Dallas, Cincinnati, and San Francisco. All of them had significant holdouts from a star receiver. Really noisy teams. And couldn't you argue this morning, Dallas, Cincinnati, and San Francisco have been the three biggest disappointments in the league. Now, you could say what about the Jets, but that was just basically Aaron going to Egypt.
Starting point is 00:19:37 I didn't think it was that noisy. It is unfortunately now common with a year left on a contract for a while. wide receiver or a star player to think it's my time to get paid. For the record, Buffalo is 3 and O. This is the best version of Buffalo ever. And their quarterback, Josh Allen, isn't even subtle about the team moving off, Stefan Diggs. Here is Josh Allen. It's a fun and wonderful thing when you had a bunch of guys that don't care about the stats,
Starting point is 00:20:11 they don't care about the touchdowns. And again, I think throughout practice, we've just had. this mindset of like, hey, let's just do things the right way and find ways to win football games. That's what we're doing right now. I have talked about this for years that a number one receiver is actually overrated. You want to have multiple weapons. You know, you want to Pooka and a Kuwa and a Cooper Cup in their prime and healthy. That's great. But when you have a dominant receiver who is willing to put himself above the team, find me all those organizations that are winning Super Bowls. How many playoff games are the
Starting point is 00:20:46 Miami Dolphins winning, because I know what's happening in Kansas City since they bailed on one. I started talking about this with Des Bryant and Dak. I said, Dak got better when he didn't have to coddle and babysit Des Bryant, who needed constant validation that he was the guy. And Des was a good player, and he got into the end zone. But I think a number one receiver is overrated. I think a collection of really solid B-plus guys. Now, I need a great quarterback and a great left tackle and a great edge rusher. Give me a Chris Jones.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Give me a home. give me a great coach. There are four or five things I want great. But I don't need a number one lockdown corner. History proves you don't. I don't need a number one ride receiver. And I like all these receivers, but Brock Purdy and Brandon Ayyuk, you can tell. They miss the camp reps.
Starting point is 00:21:31 They miss it. Joanne Jennings right now, I'm not so sure. I don't think he's better than Brandon Ayuk, but he's playing better. And Brock Purdy trusts him because he trusts a teammate who showed up to camp. I know all you young sports media are obsessed with getting the bag. and I'm all for it too when your contract is over and not scrubbing your social media
Starting point is 00:21:49 because you got your fee wings hood when your contract's over and if you're great pay Justin Jefferson whatever it costs pay Devante Adams whatever it costs I'm not anti-player or anti-get in the bag but Joe Burrow finally good last night it's week three
Starting point is 00:22:04 Jamar Chase wasn't all in so when star players put themselves this is not the NBA it is not a star it's not a player driven league you can even be a great quarterback in this league. It didn't guarantee anything except interesting. Star quarterback without everything else is interesting. The Chargers with Justin Herbert have gone from interesting to potentially more
Starting point is 00:22:27 because they got the right coach and the right people around him. But Dallas is money obsessed. That's all we hear about. And I think fans are over it. And it's Dallas, by the way, is a soft franchise. And that's what happened to people to sit around and talk about money all day. you never heard that in New England for 20 years. I never hear about it in Kansas City.
Starting point is 00:22:47 I know Mahomes reworks his deal. I don't hear about money that much. I don't. Chris Jones wanted a new contract. They got it done. Travis Kelsey, they get it done. Didn't Kelsey get a new contract this offseason? It's like out of the blue.
Starting point is 00:23:00 I think it got reported that he signed a contract. I didn't even know it was up. But this constant need, just scrub your social media, get paid early. The three noisiest friends are, the three noisiest. franchises. Cincinnati's making noise. Dallas making noise. Stan Francisco. I'm not anti-player. Play through your contract. And if you are a star player, a lot of organizations, frankly, do want to pay you early. They want to get a better deal on the back end. I'm not anti-getting the bag.
Starting point is 00:23:30 If Aaron showed up to that mini-camp, you wouldn't hurt anything. And I don't know how much that mattered. I didn't love it. But he went to Egypt. Did his thing. That's Aaron. Single rich. You're going to do his thing. That's okay. He'd been to some of the practice. Didn't go to a couple of the practices. That didn't feel like San Francisco. San Francisco was like a six-week headache or Dallas and get me this and get me. That guy, good God, the last time Dak got paid before this time, we spent like four years on it. J-Mack with the news. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Boy, Calhard, you are fired up here on Tuesday. I am. Good night, sleep, ready to roll. Yeah, whoof. Boy, he's excited. All right, let's get started here. with the 49ers. This is not good.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Every day, there's more bad news on the 49ers injury front. Christian McCaffrey will get to in a second. He and Debo have been out. Now they just announced that defensive tackle, Javon Hargrave, is out for the year with the torn triceps. Kyle Shanahan spoke about the team's awful injury luck. Injuries are always a part of it. We've had to deal with it a number of years, sometimes more than others. I think last year, just mainly with some of our main guys, we were very fortunate. You know, they didn't miss too many games. This year has been totally different to start out.
Starting point is 00:24:43 So that's been real tough. You know, I'd like to try to stay positive with it that, you know, all of them eventually are going to come back. But that probably changed with Hargrave today. So that was a tough pill to swallow there. But yeah, we definitely haven't had the luck that we had last year. This feels like it's kind of in a four-year, five-year thing. It's the same guys getting hurt all the time.
Starting point is 00:25:02 It's a Debo. It's a Kittle. It's a McCaffrey because they're very physical players. That is why last year, I said at the end, I felt San Francisco had peaked. I don't think Buffalo was peaked. I don't think Aaron Rogers, I mean, they could grow still. There are a lot of teams that are good that we think, you know, like Cincinnati's defense, unless they made a big move at the trade deadline, it's just not good enough.
Starting point is 00:25:21 But I look at San Francisco, and I feel like they've been the best roster in the league for like five or six years, and everybody's getting paid now except Purdy. Like the whole team's getting paid, and the whole team's getting old. And even the young player who Funga got hurt. So it's like, I feel like San Francisco, last year we got the best of them. Now I do think they'll rest McCaffrey, and I think what they'll do, do, and they're doing, this baseball teams do this. You just get your aces ready for October or September, and I think San Francisco is okay with McCaffrey not playing now because Mason's a good
Starting point is 00:25:50 backup. But I think in the end, this team is old, expensive, and now it's fair to say they're brittle. Well, it's weird because the Jets last year had one of the best defenses in the league. And then you're like, oh, every single player was healthy and like nobody was hurt. Now all of a sudden, Jets missing Mosley with the middle linebacker. Jermaine Johnson, outfield. for the season. Like, guys are getting dinged up and the defense isn't as great. The 49ers is real bleak, Colin. I mean, you don't want to go too overboard. But when you hear Christian McCaffrey flew to Germany over the weekend to see a specialist about his Achilles tendonitis, I don't think CMAX coming back anytime soon. And like, you can rely on Mason, but like,
Starting point is 00:26:31 is Debo Samuel going to get healthy? When is his kiddle going to come back? But here's the good news. Colin. Brock Purdy's never played better. Shanahan's still great. outside of McCaffrey. They do have capable running backs. It doesn't feel like they're a Super Bowl team. I don't think they're man overboard. I think Brandon I-Euk's going to get better over time.
Starting point is 00:26:49 You would hope. I still think San Francisco's viable because of their style, their culture, their coach. And I think Brock Purdy this past weekend showed us what all the critics or as a little cynical, he really showed us that, listen, I can do this thing without all my weapons.
Starting point is 00:27:04 So I think they're fine. But again, I'll go back to this. This is not the first time it's happened. This team is old and expensive and now brittle and it's fair to say all those things. So the schedule is a little fortuitous. They have the Patriots this week. They're 10 point favorites. However, Patriots extra time to prepare coming off the Thursday night game. Maybe it's competitive. And then you've got Arizona. Arizona after that on the sixth, then Arizona's defense is very wobbly, but they can score. There's just not a lot of room for error, Colin. And you start to look After that, Seattle, Kansas City, Dallas?
Starting point is 00:27:39 Well, they're division. They just lost their guys back. They just lost to the Rams. There are those, and I'm starting to believe this, that Seattle is one of the more underrated teams in the league, and Kansas City will not let them run the football. So Dallas, actually, I feel today Dallas at home, a team that can't stop the run, and again, unless Dallas makes a trade deadline move, that run defense, that D-Line interior is weak. Whoa. So these games, I think on paper, like I look at Dallas, Dallas sounds big. Dallas can't beat San Francisco the way they're constructed defensively. What did San Fran?
Starting point is 00:28:10 Beat about like 40 last year? They just can't. Literally Dallas, their weakness is the Niners' strength, physicality running at you. So I think Dallas is going to get smoked by them, and I think New England is. But the other games are, they'll be all close. So listen, Seattle, remember, I like them. I bet them to win the division. You kind of scoffed.
Starting point is 00:28:28 They were our lock of the week. It is a week-to-week league. We need to remember that. Sometimes it's easy to forget. Seattle has beaten nobody. I know. Like they've played awful quarterbacks. And they face Detroit this week.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Yeah, I know. And a lot of people like, ooh, Seattle. Just look at that Seattle injury report. Yeah. I think Detroit is probably the side. And I like Seattle this year. No, it's one of my three games. By the way, last week we couldn't figure out
Starting point is 00:28:55 why Seattle was only a four, four and a half point favorite at home against Skyler Thompson. And it was exactly what you're saying. The league was like, who have they beaten? I do think Seattle's the kind of. a team that's a year away, probably needs to upgrade it quarterback, though Gino can get you to the playoffs. But in the end, if you watch Detroit Arizona, it was a corner TV game, but I watched it, Detroit finally figured out what they should be, which is running 35 times between two great
Starting point is 00:29:18 backs. If Detroit stays on that and stops getting cute and clever, Detroit should beat Seattle by a touchdown. Yeah, that's going to be a good game. Next up is, let's go to the Jets. Two and one, only barely behind Buffalo in the AFC East. They had Jets had the big win over the Patriots, Aaron Rogers look fantastic. I mean, you can't say enough great stuff about Aaron Rogers. Well, Senator Joe Tipman says Rogers' play has everyone feeling very confident.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Just to be able to see him bringing that confidence back within his game, you know, it just, it brings a whole new confidence to our whole offense. He's a guy that's, you know, out there communicating, getting us to kind of the right
Starting point is 00:29:57 call, right play. You know, he's breaking down the defense before, you know, they're even showing what they have. So for him to be able to do that and getting us on the same page, and then he just gets time to work and make something happen, and that's what he's phenomenal at doing. So credit's Aaron Rogers there. Listen.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. I will say we're in the content business. Uh-huh. Jets are interesting. So I missed them. Like this, when they didn't play this weekend, and they didn't play last night, I was looking for some Aaron Rogers.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Oh, yeah, okay. Should I... All right, so two guys you bailed on, well, bagged on, ripped on, made fun of. Talked about all summer. Brock Purdy and Aaron Rogers looking pretty good as quarterback so far to start the season. Admit that. Forget the records, just the quarterback play from those two. Well, the Jets have beaten Jacoby Brissette and will love us.
Starting point is 00:30:55 That's a good reminder. Let's dovetail right into the jet schedule this week. It's Bo Nix. That defense should handle him. Okay, so this is one of those games that I said last week, Seattle, Miami. I didn't get the line. I thought Seattle was going to pummel them. This is one of those I don't really get the line, but if you inspect it,
Starting point is 00:31:12 the Jets are going to pummel the Broncos because the Broncos have to go all the way to Tampa, go home, all the way to New York, New York with extra rest. So Bo Nix against Aaron Rogers, Aaron gets extra rest. That is why that number, because when you look at that game, you'd think that's like a four, four and a half. Seven's a blowout. That line. is strangely large, and I think it is because they're looking at Aaron with extra time against
Starting point is 00:31:36 Bo, Nix, having to do work on the plane there and back, a cramped week, and I think the Jets will win convincingly. And as a reminder, that line was eight. Jets were favored by eight. It was bet down. People think the Broncos, that's too many points. I think if you're a Bronco fan, here's what you take from this year. Are there going to be moments when you're like, we got the guy?
Starting point is 00:31:55 Like, when you watch that game against Tampa and you're Denver fan, you're like, hell yeah, It's a moment. That's a great moment. This is not a good week for you. We talked about early. At Seattle to Open was a bad spot for Denver. This is a bad spot for Denver. They're not a great team.
Starting point is 00:32:11 If Denver can have four or five Sundays this year where you're like, we got the quarterback, we got the coach. They got their first Sunday. It wasn't just the win. It was how they won. They dominated a hot team across the country. So Denver and the Jets are living in two different universes here. I think Denver has to feel great about Sunday, but this like the Seattle game is a bad spot for a rookie quarterback and a young team.
Starting point is 00:32:37 And the Jets, if you remember, went to Denver last year, won with Zach Wilson a quarterback. And then there was the Peyton versus Hackett, remember the chatter? So there's a lot of angles. I just don't want the Jets to overlook, you know, an inferior team because Sam Darnold is on deck. The following week, that's a huge game. Sam Darnold, Flores, Kevin O'Connor. That's a really good game. Sam Darnold is facing the Packers this week.
Starting point is 00:33:01 So the Vikings are going to be on this incredible emotional high, and they're going to come. It's hard to duplicate that. Like the Rams beat the Niners. You think the Rams are going to play that well? I mean, the Rams, they literally emptied the tank on the Niners. They got everything to work late. That's why you like the Bears this week.
Starting point is 00:33:19 It's up to three. Yeah. No, no. The odds makers are saying the Rams, listen, it's one of the great McBay wins of his career with that team. you cannot go off a rival game in that emotional high, and then you go in and you look at the Bears, their own three. Watch Chicago.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Oh, one and two. They beat the Titans. They beat the Titans. Not really, but yeah. Yes, it counts. Yeah, yeah. Final story is, oh, boy, the bills. They blew out the Jags, I mean, 47, 10.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Now, obviously Trevor Lawrence wasn't good. This is not totally on him. The defense got cooked. Five straight touchdowns given up to start the game. Trevor Lawrence in Jacksonville now, O and 3. Lawrence has lost eight straight games dating back. to last season. Well, listen to this. Doug Peterson says things need to change. He was non-committal
Starting point is 00:34:03 to his quarterback next week, Colin. There has to be changes, whether it's play design, personnel, everything, everything's on the table. Does that include, you know, every starter, or is he include quarterback, potentially, or how? I mean, you say everything's on. We got to take a look at injury. You know, tonight we had some guys injured. Could be, you know, could be moves that way. You know, it could be performance. You know, it's all things we have to evaluate as we move forward. You know what? Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:40 No, I'm dead. I've talked about this in the staff meeting this morning. I heard something two, three years ago a concern about Trevor Lawrence. And I, I, looks into it. And it was like, he likes football. He doesn't love it. and when I watch him play the details, he's missing stuff that backups hit. Is he really, and I got nothing against him, but you can't lose eight straight if you're a great quarterback. Good God, Herbert didn't do that with Brandon Staley. Like he's just not accurate enough. He's just sloppy.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Now, you can blame the coaching for that, but we see it all the time where Brock Purdy's a better pro than a college guy. Torell Davis was a better NFL running back than a college running back. Kurt Warner is a better pro than he was a college guy. You see this all the time where a guy just doesn't get the coaching and get the fit. Trevor Lawrence just a better high school college guy than a pro guy. At the pro level, you have to be so committed, so detailed, so efficient, so accurate, and that his talent allowed him at the high school and college level. It allowed him to just be an imperfect player, but a lot of glamour and a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:35:48 When I watch him, he does not look buttoned up. Too many loose throws. too many layups he misses, overthrows on simple stuff for his talent. I see what they're trying to do with this team, unlike the Bears. And I like Trevor. I met Trevor. I like him.
Starting point is 00:36:05 But if you look at the great quarterbacks in this league, they're obsessed by the position and obsessed by the sport. And he looks, he just misses way too many easy things. and I don't know what that is but it's not lack of talent. I mean, I'm talking stuff like we show two or three of those passes. That's backup stuff. It's just, I just don't see the efficiency.
Starting point is 00:36:33 His game is way too loose. So someone once told me like, if anybody was going to pull an Andrew Luck and just up and retire, it would be Trevor Lawrence. And it's not that he doesn't like, he obsessed with football. He's just, he's a guy who has a lot of interest. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:48 And he's kind of playing like it. Now our producer here gave me. one of these stats, and I'm reluctant to say this stuff, but this is a real number. Trevor Lawrence has a lower career passer rating than Daniel Jones. I mean, that's not great. Daniel Jones, I think Daniel Jones is all in. I think he's limited. And again, I'm not at the facility, but I've heard things from sources that I trust is that
Starting point is 00:37:11 I just look at Trevor's game and it's sloppy and it's loose and it just doesn't look buttoned up. Now, maybe it's just coaching. Well, Doug Peters has coached for his job at Houston this week. If they go 0 and 4, I would not be shocked if he's fired. Okay, they're not beating Houston. Houston just got humiliated. Well, Jacksonville just got humiliated.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Yeah, but they got humiliated because they're a bad team. Houston's a good team that got humiliated. I don't know why they stuck in man coverage last night. What the hell are they doing? Like, the defensive coordinator looks clueless. Guys are wide open crossing routes left and right. Jacksonville can't cover a man? They can't play man?
Starting point is 00:37:45 What is he doing? Can I throw this at you? And I believe this to be true. cheap organizations, like a Cincinnati or a Jacksonville's always built a little cheap, they don't get the best scouts, they don't get the best executives, right? Like, I always feel like there's certain organizations, and fans don't see this, but there's a reason the Packers draft and develop so well, because people that Green Bay hires, they vet them, they move there, and they'll stay there forever.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Green Bay will move off you. Not a lot of people bail on Green Bay. Like, if you get an executive job with the Packers, the only reason you leave is you get a great offer somewhere else. Like, you know what I mean? So nothing's a coincidence in the NFL. Kansas City and Green Bay and Baltimore and all these organizations, Rams, they draft well because they, behind the scenes, the owner pays the most money for the best people
Starting point is 00:38:34 and they're attractive to the best scouts. I had a discussion years ago with the former NFL quarterback who dabbled in scouting. He eventually went into coaching. He said, Colin, there are area scouts. you cannot believe the difference between the good area scouts and the bad area scouts and the best teams have great area scouts they become assistant scouting directors director of scouting he goes some of these teams go they go cheap on area scouts and they just got ham and eggers all over the country i just look i the whole jacksonville organization
Starting point is 00:39:08 feels second tier to me sorry it just does and i like thug peterson i just feel second tier j mack with the news Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Lye News. I mean, I'm watching television like you. That wasn't even a competitive effort. That wasn't even competitive.
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Starting point is 00:43:42 Start your Saturday strong with Big Noon Saturday. Fresh off a huge win over USC. The 12th ranked Wolverines are back in the spotlight as they battle Minnesota in a Big Ten clash. It all starts at 10 a.m. with Big Noon kickoff, followed by Minnesota versus Michigan at noon on 5. Colin, why does it take so long to talk about Jaden Daniels? Slow down A, loved him in college.
Starting point is 00:44:10 I said I think he's going to be a little. bit like Lamar Jackson, better in the pocket early in his career, not quite as athletic early in his career. But you know I love Lamar. I think Jaden Daniels is Lamar, but it'll be a better pocket quarterback earlier. There are two rookie quarterbacks that have found an early rhythm, Bo Nix with Sean Peyton and Jaden Daniels with Cliff Kingsbury. They look more comfortable than Caleb Williams does.
Starting point is 00:44:40 So Cliff Kingsbury may not be a great head coach. Steve Kimes, his former boss, a good friend of mine, Steve said, Cliff's almost too nice to be a head coach at the pro football. He's such a nice guy. But a lot of guys, you know what I mean? There are people out there. They're not great for the job, but they're great at their job. And I think that's Cliff Kingsbury.
Starting point is 00:45:05 I think he's a tremendous offensive coordinator. And that's why I picked them to be a playoff team before the season. season started. I think Dan Quinn, excellent culture builder, defensive guy, toughness. Kingsbury has made Jaden Daniels comfortable. And I've said this with Sean Payton and Bo Nix.
Starting point is 00:45:22 Bo Nix right now is, the game's going really fast for him. But I, we text yesterday with Sean Peyton. They love where he's at and he's making big chunk strides every week. So, and I think young people
Starting point is 00:45:38 more than anybody need support. They older you get you could be a comedy writer you could be a sportscaster you could be a mayor the older you get you generally have a team you're surrounded by people there's a consistency but if you look um you know if you start looking around uh these young guys need help and it's also and cliff kingsbury you know a lot of people on the internet all the all the trolls in the internet bagged on him but i mean spags josh mcdaniel norv turner everywhere Cliff Kingsbury, tremendous, tremendous coordinators. Go ask any player that's played for Spaggs, Josh McDaniel.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Go ask all the players. Again, they're great at their job. Maybe they're not the job guy. So when I watch Caleb Williams, I see no plan, no run game. Who's his guy? Shane Waldron? Well, Shane Waldron doesn't even get a lot of credit for Gino Smith in Seattle. Somebody else does.
Starting point is 00:46:34 I don't know Shane Waldron enough. I don't know enough about him. But Kingsbury's had Mahomes. He's had Kyler Murray. So I was told before the draft, I remember about three weeks before the draft, I went out and I said, I've been told they're taking Jaden Daniels. I was told that Cliff Kingsbury went to Dan Quinn and Adam Peters banged the table and said, I've coached this before. It's a combination of Mahalms. It's a combination of Kyler Murray.
Starting point is 00:47:00 And I think he plays a little bit like Lamar Jackson. So, by the way, Caleb Williams, Drake May are in defensive cultures. Now, you could say, well, Dan Quinn's a defensive guy. But that's not a defensive culture. Even in Atlanta, Dan Quinn gave the offense to Kyle Shanahan. They made a Super Bowl when the offense popped. So I think Dan's a good coach. But Dan's not one of these guys where it's an oppressive defensive culture.
Starting point is 00:47:23 Like Belichick, it's like do your job, sacrifice offensive paychecks. That's not what Dan Quinn is. Dan last night you didn't know who the head coach was. He lets Cliff run the offense. He let Shanahan run the offense. It's not this big umbrella that weighs down the franchise. And that's why I thought Dan Quinn was a solid hire. So I just look at what I saw last night
Starting point is 00:47:44 And I look at what I saw at Arizona State LSU and here And I think the Cliff Kingsbury higher And the Sean Peyton Bow Knicks fit I think those were the best fits I think Caleb's got to get new people I think J.J. McCarthy And I said this, whoever Minnesota drafted a quarterback would work, whoever it is, we didn't think Sam Darnold was going to become
Starting point is 00:48:06 you know Josh Allen over three or four games But here's Dan Quinn after last night. He's a really cool customer, and he's got real poise about him. I thought going in, we knew the importance of the ball. And, you know, the decision-making for that, we just couldn't give them short fields and chances to go. So his ability to know when to, when not to, when to make a play with his legs, I thought we've seen a lot of this at practice, and now it's carrying over into the games where the decision-making, sliding, going, taking your shot.
Starting point is 00:48:37 but I thought it was a really strong performance made by him. I also have a source that told me very early on that the most impressive part of Jaden Daniels, he was all about the right stuff. He is a grinder, he's about the right stuff, there's no fluff, it's all substance,
Starting point is 00:48:53 he cares, he's into it. That's what I heard from him in Arizona State. When I saw him, he was about 158 pounds in Arizona State, and I remember talking to Herm Edwards, having him on a podcast, and like, who is that kid?
Starting point is 00:49:05 He needs to eat, but Hulk, who is? is that kid as a freshman? Then he goes to LSU and Brian Kelly and LSU guys pushed back and he was set in college records. So here's the, Washington is so starved for winning. I mean, this was a proud franchise for like ever. Here's some play-by-play from last night.
Starting point is 00:49:24 They got to snap it on a third at seven and they do. Bengals bring the house. Jane loads one up for McLaur in the end zone. Did he catch it? He did. Touchdown. Touchdown Washington. Unreal.
Starting point is 00:49:37 They're going crazy. They literally don't know what to do with themselves. Washington has found a 12-year quarterback. Serious, adult, athletic, good in the pocket. Now, again, the reason I didn't lead with this story is that Cincinnati's defense is 26 in the league, facing a rookie in New England. So their defense outside of one pass rusher is just, it's just guys. It doesn't look great.
Starting point is 00:50:02 But at this point, for a Bow-Nicks, I don't care that he doesn't have a touchdown pass. He went on the road and won. And I don't care. I mean, here's the other thing with Jaden Daniels. You notice who he's throwing to, and this is a big thing. He's throwing to the right guys. He knows who the guy is, Terry McLaurin. So it's exciting.
Starting point is 00:50:19 It's fun. Jemak, there was one courageous sportscaster that took Washington to make the playoffs. Do you know who that is? That's a rare good call by you, Cowherd. Nicely done. Hurtful. Hour to next. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy,
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