The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - Attention to detail is important

Episode Date: July 31, 2024

Colin notices that all successful people including athletes all share the same quality Colin gives his honest thoughts about Niners QB Brock Purdy Matt Stafford may just prove to us all this year that... he’s better than Aaron RodgersSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:15 So I saw something, and this matters a lot to me, and over the course of my life, the very successful people I've been lucky enough to be associated with all share this quality. All of them. What is the quality? Did they go to a great school?
Starting point is 00:03:34 No. Did they have rich parents? No. Were they all this? No. There is a quality. Boy, did I see it when I saw Tom Brady in person? It just jumps out.
Starting point is 00:03:48 The quality, I'm going to let you hear Caleb Williams, quarterback for the Bears, clearly has it. His teammate, Kevin Beard, is a safety for the Bears. And he was on a Chicago radio station. And he was talking about one of the messages
Starting point is 00:04:07 that Caleb Williams said he went front and center in the locker room and he demanded something from his teammates. And a lot of you guys won't get this. Because it's what a lot of you guys are. But this is a great, great, great. quality and listen to this radio hit. First thing he says, like, hey, man, we're all grown in here, right? You know, we're getting a little too sloppy.
Starting point is 00:04:32 You know what I'm saying? We're leaving water bottles and towels and all type of things around, man. Like, just custodians have a lot that they have to, a lot of square footage they have to cover around this whole building. Let's try to help them out by cleaning up after ourselves. And that's just little things, man, because I just think that when you want to be a great player, you always focus on the little details. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:04:50 Not even just the details of the player, but the details of everything around you. Go ask Larry Fitzgerald how much film he watched. Or Cooper Cup, Calvin Johnson. It's just not they run real fast. Details. Caleb Williams, living in the moment. Locker room's a mess. It's too sloppy.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Let's help the janitorial people, considerate of others. The opposite of narcissism. Let's clean up our workplace. I always say this. Go to a restaurant. If the restrooms are dirty, what does the kitchen look like? When I had to hire an accountant, an entertainment accountant in Los Angeles, I was given three people. The one I hired is the one I have.
Starting point is 00:05:38 The coffees, the chocolates, the sodas were lined up. It's the cleanest workspace I've ever seen. Grant Nyman's his name. It's why I hired him. And he's been amazing. It matters. I told my kids, sloppy bedroom, cluttered mine. Get it right.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Caleb Williams, conscientious. Dak Prescott, rookie year, week 11. They're winning a game, this shouldn't matter. But I talked about this for weeks. All I got was pushback. He throws a little cup behind him on the bench, and it doesn't go into the garbage. It's no big deal, right? He makes a point of grabbing it, being conscientious.
Starting point is 00:06:17 I mean, if he doesn't pick it up, somebody else has to, and putting it in the garbage. It's a little thing. It matters. He has been in Dallas, not the best arm, not the best athlete. He's an incredibly conscientious player. If you look at the great quarterbacks, they're meticulous. They're precise, breeze, Manning, Brady, precision. This is what quarterback is.
Starting point is 00:06:46 It is about precision. Sloppy quarterbacks, let it rip. Don't watch that much film. it up the field somewhere, don't work. That's why I've always said, Brett Favre would not age as well today. He's too sloppy, too ad-lib, making stuff up. He'd be talented, but he wouldn't be precise, and that's the difference. I love Josh Allen, but he's not always precise, not always great with the details without
Starting point is 00:07:13 Brian Dayball. He's not one of the big games. That's the league, inches not feet. And so, Dak, in that moment, when I talked about it, people said, doesn't matter. When Tom Brady came here and sat on set, I've only been around Tom twice, once he didn't see me, this time he did. The first takeaway I have on Tom Brady is his dress is organized. His speech is organized. The way he thinks and compartmentalizes thoughts is organized. It reminds me a lot of Peyton Manning when I've talked to him, buttoned up. So what Caleb Williams is saying is,
Starting point is 00:07:53 Hey, guys, it's a mess. The little stuff matters. Pick up the water bottles, the towels. Also, let's help the people around us. If we don't pick it up, somebody else has to. Little stuff. Signs, precision, details. It's a meticulous position.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Name anything other than astronaut where three to four seconds and rapid decisions are the difference between success and failure. That's the position. on target, on time, particular. It is the Department of Wights and Measures, and I just love this. I know it's little, go ahead and push back, but in my life, these successful people I've met, it could be my attorney, it could be Tom Brady, it could be executives, they don't have sloppy offices.
Starting point is 00:08:42 They're meticulous, they're prepared, the little stuff matters, people that do little stuff well are, in my lifetime, are always, was better at the big stuff. They're not caught off guard. They're not ad-libbing through life. I tell people this. When you're late to pick somebody up, you're late to the airport, it's just inconsiderate. It's narcissistic.
Starting point is 00:09:03 You're thinking about you and not others. Don't be late to stuff. Be on time. It speaks volumes of you. So I saw this story. Brock Purdy is saying, hey, people have asked him about this. And he has said, I understand. Kind of my role in Kyle Shanahan's offense.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Here's Brock Purdy. He's one of the best play callers in the league and in the NFL. And so for me, I'm still looking at it. Like, I'm learning from this guy. However he sees it, and whatever he's calling, like, I'm going to trust that, and we're going to roll with it. I'm not going to walk out this year going, all right, I've played enough football, and I'm going to just start calling my own things,
Starting point is 00:09:45 and Kyle's going to 100% trust me. No, I still got to learn and believe and trust of what he's calling is right. And I'm going to play with him. that system and if I ever do see something, I can do it, but I got to be able to come back off the sideline and tell them why I did that. That's right. So for the record, people think I'm highly critical of Brock Purdy, and I said this yesterday to J-Mac. J-Mack loves him so much. I'm like, pumped the brakes. He's the last player picked for a reason, but it's not that I don't like him. But what he's saying is, I understand my role in Kyle's system. Now, for the
Starting point is 00:10:19 record, I think most young quarterbacks do. Most don't come in cocky and ad lib. So this is kind of the foundation. What he's telling you is I'm good at the foundational stuff that matters. But that's never been the question with Brock Purdy. Sean McVeigh bailed on Jared Goff, who got him to a Super Bowl. He didn't bail on Jared Goff because he wasn't coachable, or didn't listen, or didn't understand his place in McVeigh's sister. system. He bailed on him because when Belichick solved the wizardry of McVeigh's offense in the Super Bowl, golf couldn't make a play outside of structure. If you go to Nick Sabin's career at Alabama, the quarterbacks he lost to, and some of them I didn't even love, Johnny
Starting point is 00:11:09 Mansell, were guys that could do things out of structure. Now, you don't want that to be the foundation of the house, but Patrick Mahomes has trailed by 10 points in the last two Super Bowls, and he has won both, not because of structure, but because second half, fourth quarter, limping, he has to reel off one of those great plays. I still think San Francisco and Philadelphia had better rosters than Kansas City. Kansas City's structure allowed them to keep it close, and eventually the great ones that hold the trophies up have to make something. thing happen. But you can win a lot of games in this league being DAC and cousins. I'll give you an example, Alex Smith. There's two traits in this league that will win you a lot of games.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Smart and accurate. Brock Purdy is clearly both. Cousins, DAC, Alex Smith have won a lot of games because they're smart and accurate. But they're not hoisting trophies because as you play deeper into the playoffs, you face an Alan, a Lamar, a Stafford, a Burrow, a Mahomes. And that's my question, contextualizing it about Purdy. I think he's in the class of Dak and cousins and Alex Smith. And by the way, Alex Smith is 69, 31 and 1 when he had Harbaugh and Andy Reed. But both Harbonne Andy Reid at one point said, I'm going to move off him. So Purdy has the cousins, DAC, Alex Smith traits, and those traits can win divisions,
Starting point is 00:12:51 and those traits can win a lot of games, three out of four, but they don't hold trophies. And eventually the standard with Shanahan and the Niners is going to be tested. Because if Brock once again, when he's not being paid and you can stack the roster, which you can't do once you pay them, then you've got to peel off three or four stars. But if he can't win that big game against a Stafford, he can't win that big game against an emerging a Jordan Love or a Mahomes or an Alan Lamar, Herbert with Harbaugh, then Shanahan will have to make the same decision Andy Reid did with Alex Smith or Harbaugh did with Alex.
Starting point is 00:13:32 By the way, Dak, cousins, Alex, exceptionally smart, coachable, accurate trophies ask for something beyond that. And I think what Shanahan is pursuing is beyond that. So there is not a criticism
Starting point is 00:13:52 of Purdy, just trying to put it and frame it so you know I'm not anti-Brock guy. J-Mack, I saw something. I was thinking about this. the quarterbacks and people, we all have different journeys. I mean, you went to college, I went to college. I didn't go to college with any rich people.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Right, right, like all of us kind of came middle class or below families. I went to a small regional college. But it is fascinating in college when you learn other people's journeys. Some kids come from great families, some broken families, some come from, you know, it's a mess. And it's very important that we realize, you know, they always have the saying, be nice to people. you don't know what they've been through in that day, that people have different journeys, daily, weekly, monthly, annually, in a lifetime. And I was thinking about this with a certain quarterback,
Starting point is 00:14:44 and I think he has the most fascinating journey in the NFL. And it's Matt Stafford. And some of the details of his contract came out. And I want to talk about Matt Stafford and his journey and how we could perceive him significantly different. if he got to another Super Bowl. Don't be crazy. He's got the coach.
Starting point is 00:15:13 He's got the weapons. I'm going to give you some perspective on Matt Stafford. His journey to me is a fascinating one, and I think it is aligned with a lot of people watching or listening to my show today. And I want to talk about that next. He's got a lot more in common with you, despite the fact that you listening or watching, are not an NFL quarterback and worth $200 million.
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Starting point is 00:19:08 Got to see a little Caleb Williams, right? They're saying he won't play. I was thinking about Matt Stafford. They just redid his contract with the Rams. And it's real easy to do what I do or what J-MAC does or people in this space to just say the obvious stuff. And sometimes people like us will go out there and make predictions, have theories, and they're wrong. but this is a thought exercise. What I'm going to present to you is a thought exercise.
Starting point is 00:19:37 It may not be right, but it's something interesting to think about. The premise is you may think much differently, legacy-wise, of Matt Stafford and Aaron Rogers by the end of this season in February. So in high school, Matt Stafford was much better. Best high school quarterback in the country. Aaron had to go to a junior college. Stafford was better up to 18 years old. Stafford was also a much better college quarterback, Georgia, than Aaron Rogers.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Now we're up to 22 years old. Matt Stafford was also better until 25 years old because he actually played in the NFL. Aaron rode the bench. But Stafford had a bad ownership, bad GMs, multiple coaches, multiple coordinators, horrible defenses. In 12 years in Detroit, Stafford had three different head coaches, four different coordinators, and in 12 years,
Starting point is 00:20:35 1,000-yard rushers. Average to below-average offensive lines, two winning seasons in seven years. Hey, he had Calvin Johnson. Yeah, great. One great receiver. In his 12 years in Detroit, the Lions were the third
Starting point is 00:20:54 worst defense in the league. They got in one receiver. everything else stunk. Similarly, Aaron in his 13-yearish peak in Green Bay had an elite front office. Excellent O lines. I looked it up this morning in those peak years, the number eight ranked defense. And oh, by the way, seven different seasons. Seven, not one, like Stafford's seven.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Seven times more than Stafford had at least a thousand-yard rushers. They drafted better, they protected better. He had better coaches, both offensive. And we view Rogers up here and Stafford down there. But let's go back to high school. Stafford much better. College, not necessarily close. First four years, Stafford actually played when he wasn't hurt because of the bad
Starting point is 00:21:50 surrounding cast. So for those 13 prime years, Aaron was the trust fund kid didn't have to worry about safety or was he going to be fed tonight and Stafford was scrapping for his own meals Divorce a mess metaphorically every day was an adventure a roller coaster in peril But now the roles have been switched and Stafford has the great coach the capable GM the excellent owner who's not impulsive the very good weapons and in three seasons Matt Stafford has already won a Super Bowl and has a better winning percentage four and one in the playoffs than Aaron ever did
Starting point is 00:22:37 and it's Aaron now with the impulsive weak owner the unproven coach the rickety rebuilt again offensive line let me ask you in six months from today if Stafford's in another NFC championship. And this morning, I have them as one of four teams that could be. Health is obviously big. And Aaron fizzles out again. We sure Aaron's much better?
Starting point is 00:23:11 That's why I've always said, I'm not impressed with trust fund kids. It must be nice to wake up, knowing the meals will be perfect, you're driving a great car, you don't have to worry about chaos at home, don't feel like working, you don't have to. There's a safety net.
Starting point is 00:23:28 I'm much more impressed with somebody that may make significantly less, but professionally has cobbled together a redeemable life with a really tough background. Stafford was better easily in high school, college, and as an early pro. But then he got a really bad family. Now he's got a good one again. Don't be surprised if he's set up. separates again from Aaron Rogers.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Just a thought exercise. J. Mack with a news. No, no, no, no, no, turn on the news. This is the Heard Line News. Pretty deep take there, Calhurt. Is it? You talking or the genius Gump? Okay, so.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Go for it. Should we give it up? Six months ago, I heard about something. And then I heard about it again about six weeks. ago. And then I heard about it again. This is the way I work. And finally I said, I'm going to buy this product called neurogum. And it's got all the qualities of an energy drink without the crap. And so you take the neurogum, you chew it for four or five minutes, and you get a caffeine hit. You think more clearly. And so the last several weeks, I've been on this stuff. And I think
Starting point is 00:24:45 you're noticing there's no off switch anymore. Oh, boy. That's scary. No off switch. That's a good line. Is that you or the gum talking? The truth is, I don't know. That could have been a neuro gum. That rant sponsored by neurogum. Yeah, I like it. All right, let's get to the New York Jets.
Starting point is 00:25:03 They have preseason games against the commanders, Panthers, and Giants. What a heavy hitting lineup that is. Ahead of their Monday week one opener against the Niners. Well, talking to reporters yesterday, Robert Sala talked about his preseason plan for Aaron Rogers. We haven't really talked about it. My instinct right now as I stand here is we'll see.
Starting point is 00:25:26 My instinct is we'll see. My instinct is no. But I want to leave it open. That third game is the one where we're decided. So he definitely won't play the first two, but the discussion on the third one, we just haven't quite had yet. I'm excited. I'm just really, I think they're fascinating. Chicago and the Jets are fascinating to me.
Starting point is 00:25:47 You just want to watch it. No judgment. Let's go. Maybe it's me, but does Sala look a little trimmed down? Looks like he maybe lost some weight, some, the stress getting to him. Listen, it's been a stressful summer for the Jets. I didn't know if, didn't know if Aaron would come back from Egypt. Yeah, maybe he's a little stressed out.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Every time he takes the podium, it's like, okay, hold on to your hats. Is my guy here? You know, listen, man, I'll just say, say less, Robert Sala. That's it. Just say less. That's a good call on that. Don't give the, the media is, they want the chum in the water. They want it out there and stir it up and sell newspapers. Well, you've got New York's the last city in America.
Starting point is 00:26:23 It's the last city in America with like three to four viable newspapers. You go to a Yankee game, the batting cage. You're going to have 20 people around there. You got the daily news. You got the Post. You got the Times. I'm sure New Jersey's got the Bergen record. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:37 And, you know, I'm probably missing one of them. So Newsweek, or if that's still going on. So whatever one you work for. News Day. So the point being is there is more people fighting. in coverage, and that's a very good point by you. In fact, three of the best New York athletes ever were masters at it. Aaron, Judge, Eli Manning, and Derek Jeter talked and never said anything.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Never said a damn thing. Joe Tori was great at that. Joe Tori talked and never said a thing. And Joe Tori is a, he's got a well, a reservoir of information in great stories. It's an art form, really. It's an art for. Eli was the best. Jeter was amazing.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Aaron Judge is great. Just talk and don't say anything. Aaron Rogers, he hasn't been around the New York media. There's only a second year, right? And it seems like he's always saying something, which is kind of the opposite of what I want. Anyways, let's move to the Cowboys. Things continue to just spiral downward for Dallas.
Starting point is 00:27:33 Okay, so Jerry Jones obviously said we're all in earlier this offseason than they haven't done a damn thing. Well, Jack Prescott is now calling out fans for their negativity. Here we go. Be feds or don't be fans. If you're a fan, you're going to turn the page just as we do. You're going to move forward, understanding that you've got better ahead of you. Sorry, obviously, but nobody hurt us more than it did them.
Starting point is 00:27:59 And obviously, it's on us to get back and to do better. But, yeah, move on. That's how I used to talk to my old management at the other place. You're into the show or you're not. Don't nitpick. Good days, bad days. Into the show or not? That brutally honest?
Starting point is 00:28:16 Oh, absolutely. Oh, I like it. This place understands that. The management here is supportive, even if you have a bad day. But that's what DAC is basically saying is something he's confronting it. You're with us or not. This stuff is hard. It sucks when we lose.
Starting point is 00:28:29 It hurts us more than you, but you're with us or you're not. I like that. I don't have a problem with that at all. That's it. Listen, that doesn't mean you can't be criticized. It doesn't mean there can't be moments when you go to DAC and fans have a right to have opinions. But I think sometimes it's really hard. hard out there for pro athletes because all this social media nonsense.
Starting point is 00:28:50 And, you know, you start reading too much of that stuff. You'll start doubting yourself. Like, I remember one time at Tampa, I was at a steakhouse in Tampa with a friend. Kevin O'Donnell. Yeah. And we saw Derek Jeter walk in. And I forget this. It could have been Fleming's or something like that.
Starting point is 00:29:09 He walked in and Jeter had like nine guys around him. And I had asked somebody about like Jeter, it was spring training time. and somebody told me close to Jeter or close to the Yankees like Derek has his guys and Derek doesn't want a lot of negativity around him because you start thinking too much when you're at the plate that's how slumps happen and that Derek chose friends wisely and that positive people uplifting people doesn't mean yes man everybody's got somebody Brady had his trainer Brady had Edelman Brady's got if you're married you don't have a yes person they're going to call you out but there is something to be said about
Starting point is 00:29:45 You have to kind of compartmentalize it. Like, you're with us or you're not. This journey is going to be really hard. It's hard in the NFL. Brady every year, the best quarterback ever, would just have an awful game. Mahomes will have these two games stretches where mechanically he's off.
Starting point is 00:30:02 And then Andy Reid gets him back into the fairway. So I don't have a problem with what he's things. So this Tampa lunch spot was one of those steak buffet deals where they're dancers at lunch? No. Just checking. Mon's Venus. No.
Starting point is 00:30:15 No, this was a reputable steakhouse. I don't even think I was paying for it. I might have been a freebie with Kevin. So just the final question on deck, I do wonder he hasn't got the contract. Every other quarterback got paid. He's going to get it. I'm sure he will.
Starting point is 00:30:30 But if this continues to linger, does he start to dig his heels in and start to play the villain role? Because that's an option for him. Hey, I'm not getting what I want. I've been everything you've asked for and more in Dallas. I've done more for this team in terms of playoff appearances. Is there anyone else in the last 25 years?
Starting point is 00:30:46 That's not him. That's not what he does. That's not. We're sure. He's not going to be like, you know, just say what's on his mind. Or sometimes you've got to bite your tongue. You know, we do it here a lot. We don't do it here a lot.
Starting point is 00:30:57 You don't do that on the show? You don't bite your tongue? Not really. I don't bite my tongue. Should I stop biting one? Unless I'm chewing that neurogum. Final story is the Bears and the DJ Moore signing. He got yesterday.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Their wide receiver got a four-year $110 million extension. He's really good. in franchise history. He is really good. He's their best, that's the best receiver the Chicago Bears have had in the history of the franchise.
Starting point is 00:31:21 That's the best. Oh, come on. Willie Galt? No, DJ Moore's better. DJ Moore is the best wide receiver in the history of the Chicago Bears. I have no problem saying that. I don't even know if I could name like seven receivers.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Alshan Jeffrey, Willie Galt. They've had a bunch of guys. Brandon Marshall and his prime was very good. DJ Moore is, and DJ Moore's put up big numbers. With Justin Fields. With below-average quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:31:46 What are they? Badgett, Begin. Yeah, wait till DJ. If Caleb can play, watch DJ Moore. Here's a fantasy tip. You may want to grab DJ Moore. Because who is, who's Caleb going to rely on? DJ Moore and Keenan Allen is veterans. Not Roma Dunzee, who could be good.
Starting point is 00:32:01 He's going to go to those veteran guys, understand how to beat the zone, which everybody now plays in the NFL. DJ Moore is worth, I mean, I know wide receivers can be overpaid, and there's a bubble. DJ Moore is really good. a lot of top five, top 10 list. I mean, he's really good. The numbers last year were incredible.
Starting point is 00:32:18 He was good at Carolina. Is he a top 10 receiver? I think he's probably closer to 8, 9, but yeah. I mean, think about the numbers he's putting up with the quarterback he had and with the protection. It's like Garrett Wilson with the Jets. No, Garrett's. Garrett's very, very good. Garrett is great.
Starting point is 00:32:33 You have to be able to see something. It's easy to say once a guy's putting up big numbers, he's great. DJ Moore's a guy that now bears old line. You can't double him now. With Roma doesn't They're tight ends. You can't double DJ more as easily as you could. The Washington game last year, he just went off.
Starting point is 00:32:50 I think he had a monster. I remember because I had him in fantasy. More is very good. Is that it? Yes. Okay. J. Mack with the news. Well, that's the news.
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Starting point is 00:35:38 Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack.
Starting point is 00:36:04 So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you for finishing that sentence. Yes. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history.
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Starting point is 00:37:01 Rising Star Gunner Henderson leads the Orioles against Jose Ramirez and the Guardians or the race take on the Astros or Giants Reds. It all begins Saturday at 70s, turn on Fox check for the game in your area. If you want to know how great Andy Reed and Patrick Mahomes are, I'll get to that in one second. And this is something I've thought a lot about through the years, is
Starting point is 00:37:28 the difference between legend and really, really, really, really, good. Like pro bowler and legend, there's a big gap. There is a huge gap between Aaron Donald, Reggie White, Lawrence Taylor, and every other great defensive line maneuver.
Starting point is 00:37:45 like Lawrence Taylor, Aaron Donald, Reggie White were not blockable by one person. I mean, the gap between Aaron Donald and even an excellent Fletcher Cox, massive. And so you tend to think in sports, well, you know, I know that Kobe's better than this guy. No, it's bigger than you think, and here's why. Because teams game plan for the great players, Jordan,
Starting point is 00:38:14 Bird, Magic, LeBron, Steph. They game plan. They're the number one target. Trap them, double them. NFL, roll over coverage. And they still, still get the numbers. They never get equal coverage. Or are guarded in the NBA equally.
Starting point is 00:38:33 People watch film, game plan. There were moments last year, pieces of tape when there were three offensive linemen assigned Aaron Donald. Three. and all those guys were probably, you know, all conference and their college conferences. Three guys on Aaron Donald.
Starting point is 00:38:50 I think it's one of the reasons he wanted to retire. If he was getting single blocking assignments, he'd still stay in the league. But it was exhausting because the Rams outside of him, once Vaughn Miller left, he didn't have a ton of support around him. So that's how I feel about like Patrick Mahomes. So the NFL has come out with their top 100. listed on by the players. The Jets have six players. Six players in the top 90.
Starting point is 00:39:23 The dolphins have seven players in the top 90. Even the crappy New York Giants have two. Denver's got two. Kansas City doesn't have any. None. No players in the top 90. They are absurd. absurdly top heavy as a franchise, which is a major red flag for teams like Dallas.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Basically, Mahomes has two great teammates. Older Travis Kelsey and Chris Jones. That's how great Mahomes is. The Jets have six. The dolphins have seven. Two has got seven guys in the top 90. He went and faced Mahomes. Couldn't beat him.
Starting point is 00:40:13 that's you know well well whoa he's got travel yeah yeah yeah he's actually got some players it feels very much like the later years in new england for brady when he had gronk edelman um stephan gilmore like that's the difference between brady and the other guys and mahomes and the other guys it's it's crazy when you go look at the top 100 how You have to, again, contextualize it. A lot of these teams have four, five, and six guys in the top 80 and 90, but they don't have the quarterback. That's why it's a quarterback coach's league. So I was thinking about this.
Starting point is 00:41:00 So the commanders, there's always been this sort of back and forth, push and pull. Do you start a rookie quarterback? So my take is, well, it just depends. If you have the offensive line set like the Dallas Cowboys did with Dak, play him. He's going to be protected. I tell my friends this in the business, in the NFL. It's actually a pretty simple business. Three things matter in the NFL once you have the coach.
Starting point is 00:41:30 And, you know, it's hard to find the coach. But once you get the coach, draft the right quarterback or acquire him, draft him or acquire him. Number two, protect him. And number three, draft require players who get after their quarterback. Get yours, protect yours, and get people who can fluster theirs. You do that right. If you have a reasonable coach, you're going to win a bunch of games. So in Washington, they are in no rush to start Jaden Daniels.
Starting point is 00:42:03 So here's their coach and their GM on the process of their rookie quarterback from LSU. We have an effective plan for him, and Jaden's the type of guy. that wants to go nail it because you want to look down the line so much, but he's doing outstanding. And we're really pleased we're around, but we're not changing the timelines or the guidelines of how we're going to approach things. When they're ready, the team knows, the coaches know, so you don't want to fast track it. You don't want to slow it down. You just want to let it happen naturally.
Starting point is 00:42:33 So there is this sense and belief that almost all the great ones started day one. here's a list of people that didn't start year one Joe Montana Brett Farr Brady Breeze Carson Palmer Eli Manning Philip Rivers Aaron Rogers Goff cousins Mahomes Lamar Jordan Love Jalen Hertz yeah I don't think Philip Rivers started until maybe year three
Starting point is 00:43:02 so for the record you know who did start day one and got the living you know what kicked out of him because they had battle lines Andrew Luck, who had to retire early. And Cam Newton started day one. And basically was a shot fighter at 32 because he took a beating. Joe Burrow started day one. Kyler Murray started day one.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Been injured throughout their career. Matt Stafford's first two years in Detroit, he was always hurt. So with Jaden Daniels, let me throw a number at you. So the quarterbacks who don't start, some do some don't. But let's go back to my theory. If you got the right coach, you hope Dan Quinn's the right coach. He did get to a Super Bowl. I think it was a good hire.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Once you get the coach right, get your quarterback, Jaden Daniels, and then protect him and draft or acquire people that can disrupt their quarterback. So number two is protect your quarterback. Washington has three new starters on the offensive line and PFF projects them as the 27th best O line. I have no problem him sitting. And also, quarterbacks like Jaden Daniels that rely on their legs, Anthony Richardson last year, how did his season end,
Starting point is 00:44:34 watching the games because he got hurt? So when you have what you would consider an above average or a hyper-athletic quarterback who's just going to naturally run, and then you add in the element or component of poor protection with somebody who's, you know, I mean, Anthony Richards and Jaden, Daniels, Caleb Williams, they're going to take off. Like I've said before, if you have a great singing voice, you're singing in the car, you're singing in the shower, it's just what you're going to do. Like, Jaden's going to run. Jaden's going to move.
Starting point is 00:45:05 And he should. And Caleb's going to do the same thing. Michael Pennix won't. Bo Nix won't. J.J. McCarthy won't run much. But, you know, some of these guys are going to run. It's in them. They're good at it.
Starting point is 00:45:15 So you add that to a bad offensive line. So I am not a believer that you have to start a young quarterback. By the way, Bryce Young started game one for Carolina. He was sacked 62 times. Wouldn't it have been better, by the way, if he didn't have to start last year, somebody else could take the beating. Here's the other downside
Starting point is 00:45:42 to starting a quarterback early. So it's very difficult. First of all, it's hard for anybody. You, me, anybody, when you have a new job. Let your first six months on a new job. And now that nobody plays in the preseason and you have limited padded practices because of the CBA years ago,
Starting point is 00:45:59 it's much harder to really know what you have until you play the games. Much easier 10 years ago. Much easier seven, eight years ago. Everybody played in the preseason at least one, two, three drives. Week three of the preseason was kind of like 70% of real game. So you had some sense, live bullets. What a guy can do?
Starting point is 00:46:18 You don't have that anymore. You just don't have that. So you really don't know what you have until the games. So don't you think it's a bit problematic that you're making really big judgments and think about it outside of football on a new employee with, no support. I think you can overreact to bad early performances.
Starting point is 00:46:42 People mostly think Bryce Young is shot. What if Bryce Young last year had Green Bay's receivers, Green Bay's coach, and Green Bay's offensive line? You think you'd have a different opinion on Bryce Young? I don't like Daniel Jones, but who the hell could be great with that Giants O' line outside of left tackle? It's a mess.
Starting point is 00:46:59 So the other problem was starting quarterbacks young. Joe Burrow not only got hurt multiple times because they couldn't get the O line right. He was so gifted that despite the bad O line play, you kind of had a sense as this kid's really special. They just got to keep him upright. But not everybody's going to be as good as Joe Burrow,
Starting point is 00:47:18 who may be on any given Sunday outside of Mahomes and including Mahomes the best quarterback in the league if he's upright. So I think you can start because all these things are converging. Nobody plays starters, especially veteran offensive linemen in the preseason. fewer padded practices. You don't know what you have at quarterback until there's real games. And sometimes even when you get to real games
Starting point is 00:47:41 with a young quarterback, Jordan Love, the difference between the first four starts and the next seven, you've got a different quarterback. Jordan Love in September, Matt Lefleur, one of the nicest coaches in the league, would go to the podium, and he was pissed off at what he saw. He was critical of Jordan Love. And Matt's like the nice guy in the league of all the coaches.
Starting point is 00:48:00 And he was banging on Jordan Love. four weeks later it's like I have the best quarterback in my division I got one of the best quarterbacks in the conference so I think people can come out and have these incredibly punitive opinions on young quarterbacks
Starting point is 00:48:16 preseason used to matter so much I take vacation time in preseason now nobody plays we thought Kenny Pickett look good in preseason I mean it doesn't matter anymore so that's my here's the commander's schedule by the way So let's look at their schedule.
Starting point is 00:48:34 So, you know, it's your typical NFL schedule. At Tampa, Giants. That seems pretty workable in the first two games. But you start looking at the quarterbacks he's going to face. And all of a sudden it's Burrow, into Kyler, into Sean, into Lamar. And again, this is kind of a common NFL schedule. I don't have strong opinions about it really either way. It's not super easy.
Starting point is 00:49:01 it's not super tough, but it gives you some perspective on. Now, many of you say, hey, Colin, he faces the Giants week two. I want him on the field for that one. That's not a bad argument. But I would tell you, if I looked at the commander's schedule today, and you had the Steelers' defense, the Eagles defense, and the Ravens defense in the first three weeks. Be careful that Giants' pass rush is good. It is. It is.
Starting point is 00:49:22 It's the one thing they do well. They got some pass rushers. Looking at the schedule, that's not a playoff team, Colin. They're probably going to start one in three and then Brown's Ravens. My point is, no rush. I would agree. Hour two next.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an a cappella band with their between songs banter.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Where does your group perform? some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque.
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Starting point is 00:50:37 get your podcasts. Hey, this is Robert from the Stuff to Blow Your Mind podcast. Joe and I are both lifelong Star Wars fan, so we're celebrating May the 4th with a brand new week of fun, thought-provoking Star Wars related episodes. Join us as we tackle science and culture topics from a galaxy
Starting point is 00:50:53 far, far away, such as the biology of tauntons and wampas on the ice planet hot, or the practicality and corporate business sense of the Sith rule of two. Listen to stuff to blow your mind on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media.
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