The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - Bad Ears, Fat Coaches, Cocky Traits
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And I apologize if I said the Yankees won.
They lost today five nothing.
No, you're kidding.
So my apology, Steve Kavino.
You're kidding.
Hey, you think you're, you think your day's bad.
I just told everybody across the country and the globe that the Yankees actually won.
Wait a second.
So that's my fault.
You got me all excited.
Five nothing.
They lost.
You know what?
Three in a row.
Three in a row.
A ball softly up the middle.
Fielded by Sweeney, steps on second, throws to first.
Tigers win.
Grand Herder closes in out after a strong six innings from Terrick Scoobel.
There's more.
Tarkas and McKinstreet, Dingler and Carpenter, all with home runs.
My bad, co.
Our final score, the Tigers make it five straight, two straight over the Yankees.
Scoob.
With a five, nothing win.
I mean, scoble six innings, you know, blanked your yanks.
You can't get upset about that.
April Fool's day was last week.
Yeah, I feel like Bayer is a rich guy.
Wow.
Rich Davis guy right there.
That sucks because that's three in a row for the Yankees.
Rich and I have money on this season.
I love Camino so much that I'll tell them the Yankees won even when they didn't.
I know.
Five in a row for Detroit.
Six in a row for your Mets, Rich, as far as winning.
Well, polar bear pizza right now, Lindor, Grounded out, Soto.
got a nice little single, so we'll see what happens here.
They're down to one to the Marlins.
They moved a lot of the East Coast games up, just for the record,
East Coast and Midwest, because the weather's so cold that a lot of teams have moved the night
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That's why you're a little thrown off.
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we go on Fox Sports Radio.
Now, normally I'd be able to watch the Yankee game, but they moved it earlier because it's so
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And then on my ride here, I was talking to my mom.
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And by the way, Dan Byer, did you see that?
A double down the first base line.
I'm all Mr. Met because of a survivor pool this week, okay?
But I also just went back to the tape, okay?
This is what I said at the top of the hour.
Let's see if we can hear it here.
Who apparently are still waiting for Aaron Rogers.
Tigers beat the Yankees today, 5-0.
Oh, you know what I heard?
I heard the Yankees won 5-0.
That's what I heard.
See?
It wasn't even you, Dan.
Oh, man.
Wasn't even here.
Hey, it's all good.
Cove, you're good with me.
We're cool, man.
We're cool.
I just can't believe the Yankees lost.
That's how delusional I am.
And they're like, there's no way they lost today.
So, wow.
Man, misheard, Dan.
What a way to start the day.
And what a way to tie the game.
Mets two, Marlins two, Pete Alonzo, a bloop along the first base line.
Here's our question for you.
As we think about last night, Florida, Houston, and you couldn't ask for a closer game, right?
I mean, the losing team had the possession of the basketball with, you know, 10, 20 seconds left.
They had a chance to tie.
And our buddy Michael Yo, who lives in Vegas, very funny comedian, one of our old school,
pals. He said, you know, you guys should discuss for at least a minute. What's worse?
When you lose by missing the game tying or winning shot or not even getting the ball off.
Not getting the ball off. That was the weakest. Is that like even, is that more disappointing?
Yeah, it's way more disappointing. It was so disheartening. Just over 17 seconds to get down the court and get a
shot off. There's no excuse for that. I'm sorry. Even with tight defense, you've got to get the ball out of your
Here's why I know that has to be the answer because I had to watch it again to fully grasp
like what just happened there.
I'm like, all right, I got to say, I couldn't believe what I had just seen.
I'm like, he didn't even get the shot off.
That's Les Miserables.
To prevent the double dribble, you saw at the very end, he like tried to box people out.
Like, someone else kept the damn ball.
Yeah, he had to let the ball bounce and take his hands off.
Yeah, but that was really weak.
The weakest way, in my opinion, you could lose.
Yeah, you want to at least get the shot off.
But, man, couldn't.
even get it off. You know what it's like it's a pops against to Florida. It's like at the end of an
NFL game and I get it. Not every game's going to end on a Hail Mary. But I always found it
weak ass when an NFL team had like one play left and the quarterback took a sack or a guy
caught a ball over the middle and didn't even try to do a lateral and he just sort of like went down.
It's like, come on, at least create the illusion that you're trying. Give me some desperation
shot. Again, that's why it's called a Hail Mary. Give me something. Throw it up.
Don't do what you did there.
That was horrible.
And that's hard to live with.
You ask him how he feels about it today.
It was both a chaotic ending and anti-climactic ending at the same time.
Yeah.
Look, the plays on right now.
And it's just, yeah, you're like, what?
You didn't even get it off?
Oh.
That's a hard one to swallow right there.
Oh.
And he knew, you know, to box him out.
The minute he jumped up and he realized if I shoot this,
maybe he should have held on in hope for a foul.
I mean, hindsight's 20-20.
but if he holds that ball, Kavino, that defender's coming in hard.
Maybe you get a foul call.
You just got to feel bad for Houston because how often does a team like Houston get this opportunity?
That was their window.
That was your shot.
And now, who knows when you're going to get back?
The NCAA is tough.
March Madness, not easy to get back.
Unless you're like Yukon women's basketball, it could be another decade or so before they ever in the Final Four.
Yukon's been there.
I'm sorry.
Houston's been there competing.
They went to the Final Four is Kelvin Samson's first Final Four at them in two.
2021. So, like, I think they'll be in the mix.
But, yeah, to get to the title game, and you already slayed the dragon of Duke.
You're in the title game, down by two with the ball.
Like, you know, you had a clutch shot.
You're national champions.
You hit a shot.
You tie the game.
It's going to be tough to live with.
That was sharp, by the way, who was forced to drop the ball after Clayton rose up to block his shot.
Yeah, he had a couple blunders down the stretch there.
I'm not throwing away my shot.
He threw away his shot.
I feel bad for him.
I feel bad for Kelvin Samson when they zoomed.
in on Samson's face at the end. He's just staring
into the distance. I want to talk to Samson.
I want to talk to Samson. It just like happened and he's just watching
and he just like staring and you're like, I just feel terrible for the guy.
That's what I'm saying. So to answer Michael Yo's question, it's a great question too.
What's up Michael Yo? Famous comedian and broadcaster
listening to our show. If he, if Sharp just threw up the shot and he missed
You know, it happens, right?
He had one last shot.
Not going to throw away your shot.
He threw away that shot, that one shot.
And that's the hardest pill to swallow.
Like, everybody has that one girl, that one guy that got away.
Like, ah.
It was a tough play because with that hand, that big arm in hand right at his shooting.
You try to take the foul.
I know.
I mean, hindsight 2020.
In his mind, his shot was going to get blocked, which is why he did.
stocks that he should have bought, should have would have could have. Investments you should have
bought in. Oh, that property. I should have bought it when it was available. This dude is going to
forever, ever, ever remember not getting that shot off forever. Not getting the shot off is way
worse. Not taking that shot is way worse than shooting it and actually missing. Forever. Forever.
Forever. Forever. Yeah, because there's always the comfort in knowing that you took that shot.
And I'm using that as a metaphor in life, right? Hey, better to
known that you tried and failed than not getting off the shot.
Yeah. That's horrible, man.
You know, I say I give the analogy when they don't even get off the hell Mary or don't
even get off the play in the NFL or college football.
I feel like a guy like Carlos Beltran.
Carlos Beltron, it's got to haunt him.
You know, borderline Hall of Fame career.
As Francisco Lindor said yesterday, I got a lot of work to do if Beltran's not
the Hall of Fame.
Carlos Beltron, an amazing career.
one of the best defensive center fielder's,
clutch player, he carried the Astros.
Remember in that postseason?
Like, dominant, like a great player.
I still think his greatest highlight is when he painted his head.
I mean, that is, that's the one I picture.
He has a black painted head.
He has a black painted head in the dugout.
He was on the Rangers at the time, right?
But, I mean, Carlos Beltron,
I know we're going back almost 20 years,
but I know it was the sickest curveball,
some would say, in postseason history.
But when he just watched Adam Wayne Wright's curveball,
strike three,
Cardinals end up going to the World Series.
That was your shot.
I mean, you don't think Belcherow's like,
oh man, I looked at strike three in game seven.
You looked at it.
I mean, think about it this way.
Let's say you had a million dollar shot.
Do you want to at least take the shot or not get it off?
I'd rather take that shot and missed than wonder.
So it is a better to have loved and lost than to have never loved it all.
That's it, Sam.
Way to wrap it up.
For real.
I didn't come up at that.
I'm going to say you did.
That was a good one, Sam.
Sam, you came up with it?
I don't know how you came up with it.
Very eloquent. But it was great.
Very eloquent.
So again, is Kavino and Rich.
The Yankees lost.
Let's be clear on that.
So now I'm sad.
You know, to quote, you know Sam, I was Sam?
Yeah.
To quote I was Sam.
I believe he said better to have loved and lost.
He did say that.
Than never loved before.
Never loved at all.
I like that, Sam.
I want you guys to think about something else.
I'm going to pose a question and I want you to think about it.
Who or what?
Who or what?
Because maybe it's a group of people.
Who?
Who or what is better when they're fat?
Because there's a trend going on.
And Edelman and Grunkey are not okay with it.
So before we get into cockiness and confidence,
we never got to that yesterday,
before we give away prizes and play last one standing here on the show,
we got to talk about who or what is better when fat.
And I know.
Listen, it's terrible because fat also means you're saying,
I like you better unhealthy.
Right, right, of course.
You've got to point that out too, right?
There's some health benefits involved in this conversation.
So we do it respectfully.
But this is all based on Rob Gruncowski and Julian Edelman, bantering about today's NFL coaches.
You want to know what's a disappointment here is that these coaches are starting to get in shape now, man.
They're looking like they've been working out with the players throwing some routes, going for jogs.
There's a lot of positional coaches that are still looking like coaches.
But these guys right now are looking slim, looking jack, looking like they go.
for a run, actually looking like they go and lift some weights, but we need coaches to get fat again.
Remember, we want a dollar to get fat when he was coaching with the Los Angeles Raiders?
That's a true typical coach is when they're fat and overweight.
That means you're the best out there.
So I think the problem is that OZMPIC came out.
They got to start testing them.
It should be on the PED list for these coaches.
We need them fat again.
It makes football better.
Is he saying make coaches fat again?
Yes.
He's saying make coaches fat again.
He's saying, OZempik is changing the game.
And it is.
in sports or coaches, but in Hollywood and real life.
Yeah, life.
We see it all over to place.
I don't know if coaches are on it.
I don't know that, but I do know that he's on to something when you think of these younger guys,
the Sean McVeves of the world, they're young and in shape.
And the time of the Andy Reed type of coach is sort of going away.
And Gronk is saying, you know, that's not how it should be.
I get more respect for the fat guy coach.
And it's kind of funny when you hear them talk about it.
So it makes you think if coaches are better fat, and that's how I do picture coaches,
like old coaches, just like old fat guys, but they're not anymore.
You're just picturing Andy Reid.
Yeah, but I just, you know, like Parcel and dudes like that.
Like John Madden later on.
Yeah, a bigger guy, like bigger guy.
Mike Holmgren.
Yeah, Romeo Cornell.
Yeah, guys like that's Wade Phillips.
Mike Holmgren, did someone say?
Or even like Mike McCarthy, you know.
But there was a trend of like younger, fitter.
Kevin Stifference.
I'm picturing guys like Sean McVeigh who got muscles.
I'm also picturing like your old high school coaches, right?
It's like the fat gym teacher or something.
So who or what, based on that, is better fat?
And is there a number one answer?
Because I think of one person in particular and then one genre in particular.
Okay.
Is the person the same that you, me, and Big Mike all agreed with?
Who?
You know, the guy that runs this place?
Mike.
Never heard of them.
I'll throw it out there.
I don't want to give way the number.
more an answer, but I might. Do it?
Now I'm wondering if we're all thinking the same thing.
There's an actor that to me
was better fat,
and I'm sure healthier now and good for him,
but John Goodman.
Oh, no, that's not where I was thinking. To me, John Goodman,
I'm sure he's a good answer, though. He's feeling good, he's feeling
slender, but I think of King Ralph John Goodman. I'm thinking
Roseanne, John Goodman. Now John Goodman's like a slender
fellow. He quit drinking. That's what he said.
He's like, it got rid of the rage for me, and I
So again, that's why we say respectfully we understand he's healthier and good for him.
We're happy for him.
But I'm with Rich.
When I picture John Goodman, I picture like Babe Ruth, Babe, Fat John.
The Babe.
Yeah.
No, there's a list of comedians and comedians who have lost some of their funny once they got thin.
Like Jonah Hill.
I was thinking of a few yesterday when we were talking about this topic.
That has to be the number one what and genre of people.
Like comedians often associated with being funnier when fat and when they lose weight.
Gaffigan.
has been joking about it because he shared his weight loss journey recently.
That's right.
But my answer, the first one that comes to me is like a Drew Carey.
Oh, yeah.
Right?
Like, he was no longer funny.
Some would say he was never funny.
I don't know.
I thought he was a funny dude.
But like, as the host of Price is right, he's just like, eh, he's just the host now.
He's nothing really funny about the guy anymore.
And not again.
And again, respectfully.
Respectfully, sometimes when someone's a bigger fella and they lose that weight, their head looks bigger.
right?
But that's funny.
It means horrible.
I'll give you one and she's addressed it so it's not me being, you know.
I know where you're going.
It's not me being rude.
She's addressed it.
But her character's name in pitch perfect was Fat Amy.
Rebel Wilson looks beautiful and thin and shape.
I'm starting to feel like this is a bad conversation.
Probably healthier.
But Rebel Wilson has said that she's looked at differently because people looked at her as like the funny big girl.
I got another one.
This is the truth.
Don't shy away from this.
I'm not.
I'm not.
Don't let 2025 beat you.
Don't let Gen Z beat you.
Just sensitive people in my ears and it's bothering me.
No, don't let it.
But I'll say it.
I'm going to say it.
I'm going to say it.
Come on.
You're going to tell me Adele is better now than what she used to be.
Like, she had credibility.
To me, she had credibility.
Like, ooh, she's a big woman.
So are you also saying you like Big Luther?
It's like, it's like, don't fool me.
Like, remember when C&C Music Factory had that big woman singing,
innate, position it with.
like some fit other woman.
No, I think it had more credibility
when it was the other woman.
Because you're thinking of Mama Cass Elliott.
I'm just thinking,
your mom is and the Papa's,
Rita Franklin, she's big,
she's got the masks.
She's got them pipes.
Fat lady sings, right?
Yeah, like the fat ladies and I give that
credibility.
Like Adele to me now, like hot Adele
or like good looking Adele,
yeah, healthier Adele.
I give all the credit in the world.
You're talking about Martha Walsh, by the way.
Yeah, Martha Walsh.
People, is that the bigger woman?
I'm sure she's just as talented
and people are just as funny,
but for whatever reason it's never the same.
Is Martha Walsh, the bigger woman?
She is.
Oh, you know, people once said, you know, it was over when she sang, but people didn't know.
Right, right.
People didn't know.
So.
Get it over when the fat lady's saying.
Who or what is sort of better.
I'll see my way.
Because there is a trend in the NFL, according to Gronkin, I mean, according to us,
Gronk and Edelman, they say coaches today are not the coaches of yesteryear.
Coaches of yesteryear were sort of sloppy and overwork.
way.
Coaches today,
slim and trim and fit.
They're polo tucked in real nice.
Well, you know.
Robert Salah.
Comedian.
Jacked.
Like, Salah, yeah.
Robert Salah looks like a guy that would be...
He looks like a fitness instructor.
Robert Salel looks like the instructor that's trying to sleep with your wife,
like at the gym.
Like, hey, what's up?
Robert Salah, great example.
I'm a ripped coach.
Now, I was thinking, like, comedians and hosts and stuff.
It's...
There is something to be said about...
comedian Matt Rife, who's like the young handsome dude.
Yeah.
It's, he breaks the mold and it's almost tough in a way to be the, I guess you would say,
like young handsome comedian like him.
Yeah, you can't be too good looking.
No one thinks you're funny.
And you can't act like you're the smartest guy either.
You can't be too smart because then you're talking down to people.
And no one likes that either.
Like I'm sure, how would we receive it if Fluffy, Gabe Iglesias, what if he just got
all trim?
His whole character's like, I'm fluffy.
See, but I think it's on the, it's really on the,
audience. Is he any less funny? I don't know. It's a weird thing. Are these coaches any less good?
Yeah, but you remember like comedian John Panette? His whole bit was based on like,
you've been here four hours. He was at the buffet and like a lot of his jokes relied on like,
I'm a fact. Got to find a new act like a new stick. You can't call him fluffy if he's not fluffy,
right? Like you know what? I know what always bothers me when a hot female comedian talks about like the woes
of dating. I'm like, stop it. You could date him. Stop. So,
again, just the question of thought
based on Gronkin Edelman's
conversation. It was kind of a funny one
because you do see the difference.
You do see the expectation of what
a coach used to be and what a coach
is now or what the trend seems to
be. These guys are younger and more fit
than coaches previously.
Well, you know what? To make a
point here, let's also
keep in mind that you
can't hate on someone because people are trying
to better themselves. And that's
the bummer, right? It's like you
a lot of times actors, musicians, athletes, coaches, they'll trim up.
And instead of people being like, oh, congratulations for all the hard work you did.
You know what people say, I missed the fat you.
You don't think that messes with them a little bit?
Absolutely.
Yeah, it's not fair.
So that's what I'm saying.
It's probably on us and our expectations as the viewer or the audience.
That's not me or Kavino.
Blame Gronkin Edelman.
And you know what?
You may have a personal.
story like yeah my buddy you know yeah and I liked him but yeah and now he's uh he's all thin and full of himself
why you're saying when you say that no because they're saying oh zempic is changing the dynamic
of friendships all over the world because that person is no longer the the person that they once were
so they're not even acting like that person i had a college buddy who's a bigger dude but he leaned
into it like his whole persona in college was yo i could eat more wings than anyone i could
guzzle beer. Fat Larry.
He wore a big Hawaiian t-shirt. And what happens,
that guy, he did. That guy
when he slims up, he almost
has to adjust his
I guess what I'd say, like his persona, his whole
persona because. Self-esteem. I know it sounds
goes up, right? I know it sounds ridiculous. Your self-esteem
goes up. Maybe not. You can be
totally confident. If you were the beer and wing guy, we're
wearing Hawaiian shirts all the time, and
you lose that weight, yeah, it's a, you have a
new identity. Exactly. You have to adjust.
Like, it's a good adjustment for your health, but
if you're the guy that everyone's
like, you know, Larry, Larry, and you're the guy that's rip it off your, you know,
you're shaking your belly, like your chunk from goonies, and you're doing cake stands
and eating, you know, 50 wings.
And everyone's like, man, Fat Larry.
Fat Larry's like, yeah, guys, I'm going to get to salmon with rice and I'm really trimming
down.
And I'm a different guy now.
That's an adjustment because people are like, come on, Fat Larry.
So, Grank Edelman, very funny clip.
Do coaches need to be fat?
We're looking at the NFL now.
There's more ripped coaches than ever.
care about health and fitness. The end, but I thought it was a funny observation.
We got a lot to get to. Cockey or confident. That's a quarterback question. What's the difference?
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We're starting a trend.
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So how do we actually come up with a name,
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So we're going to get to cockiness or confidence in what's the difference.
There's a story about Baker Mayfield and Shador Sanders we didn't get to yesterday.
And we're going to play last one standing.
But we pose a question of who or what is better when they're bigger, when they're fatter.
based on the conversation
Gronk and Edelman had
that NFL coaches are better
when they're fatter.
We're going to get to your phone calls
to at 87799 on Fox.
If you missed it,
take a quick listen
and I got some other examples.
You want to know what's a disappointment here
is that these coaches
are starting to get in shape now, man.
They're looking like they've been working out
with the players,
throwing some routes,
going for jogs.
Like there's a lot of positional coaches
that are still looking like coaches,
but these guys right now
are looking slim,
looking jack,
looking like they go for a run,
actually looking like
they go in,
lift some weights, but we need coaches to get fat again.
Remember, we want Adola to get fat when he was coaching with the Los Angeles Raiders?
That's a true typical coach is when they're fat and overweight.
That means you're the best out there.
So I think the problem is that OZPIC came out.
They got to start testing them.
It should be on the PED list for these coaches.
We need them fat again.
It makes football better.
They said they were encouraging M&Dola to gain a lot of weight just to gain more respect as a coach.
I'll tell you, don't blame us.
This is a grunk thought, but it's a funny one.
Yeah, who's better?
Of course, losing weight and getting healthy is the priority, and we commend that and congratulate anyone that has.
But in our stupid brains, what are some other things that are better when they're bigger, right?
When they're fat.
I got a few answers.
Let me know if you agree.
Spot said Horatio Sans said he was funnier when he was bigger.
Okay.
But I have people.
Okay.
Not necessarily a person.
Okay.
How about home plate umpires?
Way better when they're bigger.
Oh, way better when they're bigger.
So specifically, right?
Way bigger as a fat guy?
No doubt.
All right.
That being said, how about Little League catchers?
Right.
Did you have confidence when the Great Hambino was behind the plate?
No, Diggity, no doubt.
Or her first baseman.
Wait, can I actually comment on?
So there's a bit of an optical illusion going on, though, because both the umpire behind
home plate and the catcher wear a guard.
And so it makes them look bigger than they are.
But they always look like bellies.
As a kid that took the mound, Iowa Sam, you know, Little League superstar that I was,
let me tell you how great I felt when it was a big kid behind home plate.
Peaked at 12, by the way.
Yeah.
All right.
Another position or person that's better when they're bigger.
How about a chef?
If a big fat chef boy already comes out,
don't you give him more credit like that guy, that guy knows, sampling the wares.
One of the most famous ones when we were kids was that chef on the motorized scooter.
He was so big he couldn't walk, remember?
I love it.
You don't want a skinny chef.
What does he know about food?
How about this, Rich?
You're going to love this one.
Tuba player or trombone player?
I don't know.
I just feel like, I know, the bass drum player in the marching band.
too of a player for me.
It's more impressive if they're thin.
If they're thin?
No, man.
I don't give them any credibility.
I got two people that one, I don't want to lose too much weight because I feel like it's our identity.
And one that's very different looking now.
I know health was part of it, but Randy Jackson.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
American Idol.
I know some of it was health related, but he looked good, man.
He wasn't like super big, but look, I get it.
Health is wealth.
What about a guy like jelly roll?
If he got too skinny, isn't it? His name is Jelly Roll.
He's been losing quite a bit of weight.
Yeah. And there's some actors and actresses and singers who actually look better with weight on them.
Like, think about Ariana Grande right now.
Dude. Yeah. Totally. Yeah.
I mean, it goes both directions here.
No, absolutely does. But this is based on that conversation.
Just wanted to have some fun with it.
Wrap it up with your phone calls.
And then DB's got an update. And we'll talk about cockiness and confidence.
Who do we got?
That is our buddy, Tripp in Vegas. What's up, Tripp?
Hey, Tripp.
And then I think the number one answer.
Good to talk to y'all.
I would go with Melissa McCarthy.
I don't know if y'all said that because she lost all that weight.
You know what?
It wasn't funny.
The whole show, her and actor Billy Gardell, remember Mike and Molly?
It was based on them meeting at a, like a...
Dude, have you seen Billy Gardell?
He lost a lot of weight, man.
I mean, God bless him.
And again, I do think that's on us.
It is unfair, but it's a very common sentiment that, oh, man, they were funnier.
It really is.
It's unfair, but it's what...
On us to feel that way, I guess, right?
Yeah.
What else, Tripp?
Okay, and then genre.
How about opera singers?
I don't want some skinny opera dude.
Bro.
Totally, bro.
I'm picturing.
If Poverati was skinny, I wouldn't care about it.
I'm picturing Poverada.
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
You can't have that guy be 130 pounds?
That's a great one.
No, that's a great one.
All right.
Thank you, Tripp.
Eli and Fresno.
What's up, man?
What's happening, Rich?
What's happening?
Covino, I got a good one for you guys.
What's up?
What's up?
He, hey, since we're talking about Ozempic,
he took a magic.
He took a magical zamping.
Who do we love better?
Buddy Love or the nutty professor.
Buddy Love.
Buddy Love was a nightmare.
Yeah.
Sherman Klump was a real nice man.
But, you know, just to prove it how sometimes when someone's a little bigger, they're more lovable,
who's like the most lovable baseball player over the last 20 years?
Like Bartolo Colon.
And why?
Because he was like a bigger guy.
Yeah.
That's the other weird.
part of the dynamic, right? Oh, they're so
lovable, but they're not happy
a lot of times in that situation.
So, again, we understand.
It sounds selfish. It sounds weird,
but it's just based on this coach theory.
One more phone call to wrap it up. Let's do it.
Travis and San Fernando.
What's up? San Fernando. What's up?
Happing, but also before Dan Byer
goes on vacation, I have a game show he can
host. He could do
a master's golfer or
Arby's worker.
Oh, you know what? We could do a round of
our old game, but I think
Arby's worker.
And then for
the, a family
pet, a cat or a dog that
the whole family can just kind of make fun
of, that's a good one. Oh, like a fat
cat. Have you got a fat cat? Yeah,
that's a good one. Thank you, man. Chunkle.
Do we have one more phone call? No, you know
I think we're good. You know what? We're good on it.
Now, again, we're going to talk cockiness
and confidence. What's the difference? You can start thinking about that.
There's a clear answer, but there's a clear answer.
we're going to do that next.
But first, there he is, the host of, is it a golfer or Arby's worker?
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Finally, guys, some news from the NFL.
The Pittsburgh Steelers are bringing in Shador Sanders, the Colorado,
quarterback for an official top 30 visit coming up on Thursday, according to multiple reports.
Fellows, back to you.
Thanks, DB.
Actually, we're going to talk about Shador Sanders in just a little bit.
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Think about that.
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We have some big news.
What's the news, news?
Huge news.
We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas.
We invented a podcast?
Well, we didn't invent it.
We just contributed to it.
We're the first people to do podcasts.
Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts around there.
But this one's extra special.
So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys?
I honestly don't remember.
I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
And we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers.
This is how you guys remember it going down?
Yes.
I have a very different memory of this.
We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas.
And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.
But thanks for remembering that, guys.
Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your
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The French Open is one of the toughest tests in tennis.
And I know firsthand because I competed there myself.
I'm Renee Stubbs, and on the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast,
I'm breaking down everything happening at Roland Garris.
Every match, every upset, and what it really takes to win on Clay.
Jenchian win.
I mean, she went down in three to Rabakina, but I'm delighted.
She's an outsider to win the French for me.
And she likes Clay.
Listen, Lerabakina is arguably the best player in the world right now.
And I actually can win on any surface.
Because if she's serving, well,
Good luck.
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Now, it was a story yesterday that Dan Orlovsky was saying that we have to have the same energy about Shador Sanders that we did about Baker Mayfield.
Dan Arlowski, you mean the guy that made me shed tears with a beautiful story about his son?
First and first mostly, you're right, Rich.
Last week was Autism Awareness Week.
That was the most beautiful story where his son's artwork decorated the ESPN studio.
It really was so touching.
That made me cry as much as the dude from Love on the Spectrum, Tanner on the Kelly Clarkson show meeting Jack Black.
That was incredible.
Yeah, that show itself, Love on the Spectrum is incredible.
Shout out to Connor and Tanner.
But yeah, Dan Orlovsky's son, that was beautiful.
I should have one Vato tier.
You know, I don't have many of them.
Yeah, I don't know if you know, Vatos have 96 tier drops they could use in their life.
That's true.
And I used one for Orlovsky.
So everything I say is, you know, respectfully.
He says, we can't praise Baker Mayfield.
and fall in love with Baker Mayfield because of his Riz.
He didn't say that.
But he said because of his charisma, cockiness, and his self-belief.
And then kind of view it different with Shador.
So that's Dan Rolovsky on the criticisms of Shador Sanders.
Now, do I understand what he's saying?
Do we understand what he's saying?
Absolutely.
I get it, right?
What's good for the goose?
Should be good for the gander or whatever?
We got to treat these things equally.
However, I want to remind everybody.
I don't think we all love Baker Mayfield in the beginning.
That is 100% accurate.
Right.
I mean, we gave Baker Mayfield so much flack about his dance moves and his cockiness and his commercials and his dedication to football.
Like, we gave that dude so much.
He just played his heart out so hard and proved us all wrong.
And he kind of won us over.
I think so I think the same should apply for Shador.
If that's how or if that's how you view Shador, then in the same way, then yeah, he's going to or he should when you.
over eventually with his dedication
to the game and his toughness. I think
that's the one hole in the
Dan Orlovsky analysis
of Shador and Baker.
You're a hundred percento
right-old. Thank you. Yeah. I love Orlovsky.
I'm not coming at him. I'm just saying
I don't agree with that because I root
for Mayfield now. But I remember
not liking the guy. There were times where
Kavino would come on the show and be like,
look at him doing his stupid dance. He hasn't proven
anything. We grew to
love Baker because his
cockiness was checked a little bit.
His cockiness went into confidence.
And it was humbled.
Right.
Humility.
It was, as your mom hates, when you say humbleness.
I say humbleness.
My mom says, it's humility, you idiot.
His humility is what made you love Baker Mayfield.
When he saw some tough times and you're like, all right, this cocky kid got checked a little bit.
And he came out on the other side, humble with his humbleness.
It's humility.
And I think that's why we love Baker.
I've always thought there was a big difference between cocky and confident.
And I think this applies very much to the dating world because, listen, let's be honest, it's all the same, right?
The workplace, dating, sports, it's all just personality traits.
And relationships, yeah.
When you're dating, when you're a single man and you're in the dating scene or a single lady.
What's up, Beyonce?
I wish I thought the difference between confidence and cocky was the ability to laugh at yourself and not take yourself serious.
You could be a guy that's like, man, that guy's pretty cocky.
But if he is always okay to be the butt of the joke, he makes fun of himself, he doesn't take himself serious.
He does it with a smile?
Does it with a smile.
He can be cocky, but people are like, nah, it's a confidence.
Cocky is when someone is so sure of themselves, but my goodness, don't you dare question them because they don't like the joke ever at their expense.
Cockiness borders on arrogance, right?
and what is the
eliminator of that?
Like I think Rich just said it
Like doing it with a smile
And just the true belief in yourself
That's confidence
We work with people
I'm not gonna say here or there or when
But there's people that get in their own way
Because I'm like, you know they're cocky
Like they
And that rubs everybody the wrong way
We need some names
Right here guys
Yeah no
No but there is
There's a fine line like
I'll use myself as an example
Just to keep other people
Out of the conversation
Oh I know cocky
I feel yes
I feel like that's the vibe that I might give off until you really get to know me.
And you're like, oh, yeah, this guy doesn't take himself that seriously.
He does it with a smile.
I can see where people.
I just have resting D face and people would assume that about me.
Yeah, but I, resting your face, resting D face?
Resting D face.
Resting D face.
I do think Kavino is one of those guys.
You could look at me like he's cocky.
But then you realize the fact that Kavino can make fun of himself and, you know, takes a joke.
He's confident.
Oh, he's not cocky.
It's funny.
So your thoughts, the difference between.
confidence and cockiness in sports.
We'll take your feedback next.
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