The Herd with Colin Cowherd - HOUR 1 - Bears, Mahomes-Allen

Episode Date: October 14, 2022

The Bears have never been great on offense and they need to have patience with Justin Fields Looking at the big matchup this weekend between Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen Colin discusses the offensive struggles of the Broncos and Packers   Guest: Mark SanchezSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Live in Los Angeles. It's the hurt. Wherever you may be, however you may be listening, IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, and FS1, one hour from now, I'm one game over 500 this year, Blazing 5. The dogs are barking this week.

Four of my five picks are underdogs. I think in the NFL, we have these weird upset weekends. Keep your eyes. The Jets may make it into... I don't put the Jets in my Blazing 5 much at all. Got a feeling this week. They may sneak in Jason McIntyre long time.

Jets, Finn. How are you? Feeling good about the Jets? Listen, it's a big Friday, Colin. A lot of picks. I have been over 500 every week on heard headlines for picks. See if we can keep it rolling. Okay.

Let's start with this. So, and it's weird how this is. but Chicago, the Chicago Bears can't do offense. They can't. Name their best receiver ever. Name their best quarterback ever. But their best corner, linebackers, safety, pass rusher. This year is a prime example.

The last two years, they've drafted six offensive linemen. I think one looks like he's good. Their wide receiver group right now is easily the worst in the league. Darnell Moody is a two, maybe a three. The rest of the guys are castoffs. So, and this year's draft is a great example about the Bears. They hire a defensive coach. He looks to be pretty good.

That Bears defense is pretty good. Mattie Eber Fluse. They draft a corner and a safety where their first two picks, they're both great. Their third pick, Valis Jones, a wide receiver, a complete reach. He's a six-round pick. They pick him in the third. He's a return guy who could never track a ball in college that doesn't run good routes. I talked to two NFL executives last night that are in the war room,

during the draft and they just rolled their eyes. They're like he's a return guy. That was their third pick. They don't know offense. They've never known offense. And this is no offense. So I'm going to be really, really patient. I've said this all year with Justin Fields.

The kids working with a terrible receiving core, a bad offensive line. So the comp for him is Josh Allen. So both of them are big, strong athletic and can struggle at times with accuracy. Both have a defensive coach. Both have a bad offensive line. Both are in a cold northern windy city. So that's kind of your comp, right? So Josh Allen year one, like Justin Fields.

Woo! What interceptions are not good looking? Josh Allen year two, like Justin Fields in year two. Kind of bumpy. But the difference is, Josh Allen was still a bad offensive line with a defensive coach, with no running game. Josh Allen, year two,

you were getting 20 touchdown passes, 10 rushing touchdowns. He started to be wildly productive. Justin Fields still isn't. Now again, Josh Allen, bad old line. Josh Allen, no run game. Josh Allen receiving core in year two wasn't as good as it is now. But you saw the leap. When I look at Justin Fields, I see bad body language.

The completion percentage has gone down. And he's not Josh Allen, the prospect. He's not. So the bears right now have a situation where they'll be as good as their quarterback. And I don't think you can blame Luke Getzzi, the offensive coordinator. I thought they moved the pocket last night. I thought they were clever. They rolled him out a lot.

You can only roll out so much at some point a kid's got to be comfortable in the pocket. Josh Allen, very early in his career. He may have been wild. He was totally comfortable sitting in the pocket and throwing darts. Loves it to this day. He runs when he has to. do. So I don't want to hear that, well, Justin Fields was great at Ohio State. In the history of the NFL, the history, Ohio State's never had one great NFL quarterback. They have the best talent in the conference,

and they go up against Purdue and Illinois. Of course, the quarterback's throwing to five-star tight ends, five-star left tackles, five-star running backs, and five-star receivers look great. They've never had a star quarterback in the NFL. So that doesn't mean anything. Nothing. And I'm going to be patient with Justin Fields. But the comp with Josh Allen is similar. Windy Cold City, defensive culture, bad old lines, wild initially. But I saw a big leap in year two. Even though he still wasn't that accurate, if you go back in YouTube Josh Allen year two, he's jumping over people. He's really comfortable in the pocket. And I don't see it with Justin Fields. Now, could it be turned around? Everybody's going to blame and blame and blame, and that's fine.

But at some point, we've got to be realistic here. The bears don't do offense well. They don't. So is Justin Fields good enough to overcome his reality? I mean, good God, their third round pick last year is a complete utter reach. USC three years, he was never productive. He couldn't track the ball. He didn't run routes.

He's probably a great kid. He's fast. He could be a tremendous special teams player. But I've said this before. Once every seven or eight years, you get a quarterback good enough to overcome problems. Andrew Luck, Josh Allen. They're just good enough to overcome stuff around them. We know Chicago doesn't know offense.

Hell, you can't name their best receiver ever. You may live in Chicago. Alshan Jeffrey. That's your, I mean, it's a good player. But so I look at Justin Fields. I'm going to be patient. the year, but that comp with Josh Allen, and there's a lot of similarities. I saw a big, big move in year two.

Right now, I've got to be honest. You can blame Matt Eber Fluse, but I think he's actually done a good job. I didn't like them hiring a defensive coach. I did not. I did not. But I think Eber Fluse, I watched that defense. It is well-coached. And Luke Getsy, who spent years in Green Bay, I think they're moving the heck out of the pocket.

I think Washington's offense is a disaster. It's not clever. It's not smart. It doesn't make me think. It never catches me off guard. I think Chicago's well coached on offense. Receivers stink. Their own lines are question mark.

They could use another running back, another tight end, three receivers. But the question is, is Justin Fields comfortable in the pocket? Doesn't look at it. Is he good enough to overcome the reality of the Bears franchise? I don't think he is. But I'm going to give him the year. here's Matt Ebervloos after the game. I think he took a step forward.

I really do. Because he was the toughness, you know, and the ability, for me, the ability to take the ball and drive it down at the very end to give us a chance to win it. That's to me what was the improvement. Okay. Was there other moments, you know,

that we need to clean up and offense needs to clean up? Sure. But we had the drives down there, and if we punch those in, the game's a different game. I hope he's right. I love Chicago. The kid is big, tall, fast. He's got a whip.

He made the best throw of the game. And there was that one drive they scored on. The play calling was clever. He was accurate. It's not a disaster. I'm not sitting here telling you when I watch him, I'm seeing, you know, like, oh, the guy's got no talent. I'm saying Josh Allen's the comp that people are using, and I compared him. There are moments with him.

But I don't care how well you run. Lamar Jackson today wasn't terribly comfortable his first year and a half in the league in the pocket. He is now. He's tied for the NFL league. Ten touchdown passes, middle of the pocket. So we'll see. But I will tell you this.

Even with the Jets who I criticize, there are wins. I've told you about the Jets. Their GM's great. They got the GM right. I don't know if the coach quarterback worked. The GM's good. I will tell you when I watch Chicago, here are the positives. I think Eberflus is really good.

I really do. I think he's really good. I watch that team. When you get yards, you earn him. I think you got, and I wasn't a fan initially. I have a right to be wrong, but I don't think I'm smart to be rigid. I think Eberflus is good. I really do.

I think he's really good. And I think Luke Getsy is clever. Don't listen to anybody. They're moving the heck out of that pocket. They're doing everything they can. But man, they do not do offense well. So this kid's going to have to overcome stuff. I was sitting there this morning right and down if I had the bears, because they have tons of

cap space next year. And if I was the Bears, what would I do this all the time? I'm such a dork. If I, I looked at their cap space this morning and their draft picks, I would literally, literally go by the best center on the market, the best right tackle on the market, a number two tight end, a number two and three receiver, because I think Darnel Moody's like a, he's a two, and then I would draft the wide receiver in the market. I would literally go get six starters off. They need more of everything. Another tackle, another running back, another two receivers, another tight end. because they can't draft it.

They can't draft offensive talent. So go buy it. Right? There you go. Okay, so I was thinking about this. Mahomes and Josh Allen will play this weekend. And if you just took,

and I don't care about all the quarterbacks, but the quarterbacks that I like in this league that I think are special. And you just put them in two groups. I think Mahalms and Josh Allen have separated from the league. I think they're different. I think the armed talent, the ability to move. I think they've literally separated from the league.

And then the second tier has got a bunch of guys that I like. I don't care what the order is. I like Brady and Burrow and Herbert and Rogers and Stafford and Lamar and Derek and Russell. I know I still like him. Kyler and Garapolo and J. I don't care where you put him. The guys after that, I don't think there's a lot of special there. I don't think there's a big gap between that guy and the backup.

We're seeing that in Dallas. But if you had to separate. And I was thinking about this this morning. So in my entire life, let's go to the 70s. There were two quarterbacks that I remember well. Bradshaw was winning all the rings. Staubeck won a couple of rings, but may have been the most talented. Staubeck is probably the most underrated player, in my opinion, I've ever seen in the NFL.

Discipline, intelligence, accuracy, running around. Bradshaw got most of the wins and the heart. I thought Stauback was actually more talented. I know Terry doesn't want to hear that. In the 80s, Elway was getting the rings. Many people believe Marino was more talented. Those were the two like star quarterbacks. I'm not just talking titles.

I'm talking the two that like take your breath away. In the 90s, it was Farve and Steve Young. Both won a title. Both took your breath away. In the 2000s, it was Brady and Manning. Brady was winning the rings. most people felt Peyton Manning was the greater natural talent. He was a number one pick.

2010, it was Brady and Aaron Rogers. Most people felt Aaron was the take-your-breath-away talent. Brady was winning the rings. And now it's Allen and Mahomes. And I do believe that Josh Allen is the take-your-breath-away talent, but Mahomes will end up winning more. Greg Kossel said this yesterday. 43 years looking at film.

I said, and it's close. If you took Allen and Mahomes, talent, who's more talented? I would say it's close, and I would say that size is a trait, and 6-5-2-40 to me is a trait. I think that as a pure, pure talent, I would say Josh Allen. It's not a big difference by any stretch of the imagination, but I think size is a trait. You know, it is football. So I would say, you could make an argument, Colin, that Josh Allen is one of the most physically gifted quarterbacks we've ever seen. Some think he's the most physically gifted up there with Marino and L.A.

But it is interesting. If you go decade to decade, there have usually been, usually two. And they're both really talented. Bradshaw Stalback, Favre Young, Aaron Brady, Manning, Brady. but one guy usually wins more titles than the other guy in that decade. And I do believe there are advantages to Mahomes. What? He's got the offensive coach.

Josh has the defensive coach. Kansas City rebuilt their offensive line in one year. It took Buffalo six. Buffalo still doesn't have a competent run game with their head coach six years in. Kansas City always runs it okay. If you look at the way the sport is made, moving, and I do have a feeling this weekend Buffalo is going to play well. But I think that shootout last year is what it's going to look like.

Close games, offensive league, complementary run game, better offensive line. Mahomes will just sneak past Josh Allen more than Josh Allen will beat Patrick Mahomes. But I think if you're totally honest, as much as I like a lot of guys in this league, I think they've separated. leadership, size, arm talent, mobility. They're just different. All right, great to have you in today. Also, Blazing 5 coming up in 40 minutes, Peter King 2. We may have a quarterback controversy, not in Dallas.

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Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search Learn the Hardway and listen now. Well, as you know, I have favorites in the quarterback game. One of them is Jimmy GQ, Jimmy Garoppolo for the Niners. He is, as his team is falling apart this week, they're missing eight starters. They're not only winning, they're winning big, although I think they're going to have a tussle this weekend against Atlanta. So Jimmy G. is one of those guys that just keeps his head down, doesn't make, it doesn't whine, doesn't complain, doesn't want

to own the press conference. You know, he's got that kind of Dack Prescott quality at the podium. Like, he just says the right stuff. Anytime there's controversy, he just sort of sidesteps it, falls on the sword. That's a skill, by the way. And so Steve Young, Joe Montana have both said things before they really like him. And Steve Young was on K&BR Radio in San Francisco talking about what he's overcoming and why he likes him so much. He just keeps rolling. And he doesn't fall for any of the trips and traps and the cheap shots

and the things that he could be saying and doing. No wonder the locker room loves this guy. No wonder that he just kind of can handle all this stuff that happens to him. He's like, yeah, we're good. Let's just keep rolling. I admire that. And I have to tip my cap to it. And it's not easy.

We've seen a lot of quarterbacks can't handle the podium. So think about it this way. Do you believe that Bill Belichick knows more about football than you? Guy wearing a Niner jacket who retweets adult videos on Twitter? Yeah, I'm going to say he does. Belichick drafted him over 14 years higher than any quarterback he drafted in New England. And he drafted a lot. Belichick liked him and wanted to replace Brady.

He did Robert Kraft. wouldn't let him. And then when the owner said you got to get rid of him, the smartest young offensive coach, the guy who owns Sean McVeigh, Kyle Shanahan said, I'll take him. I'll take him. So the best coach ever loved him was going to move off Brady.

And the best young coach loves him. But Jimmy Garoppolo's been hurt a lot. And so the Niners, fearful that he's not available, went out, three first round picks, tried to get a young. young quarterback to replace him. That quarterback got hurt. Jimmy Garapolo, in the two years in San Francisco, he's been healthy. In both, he's gotten to the NFC championship. Still doubt him. Listen, if you were a young chef, you're talented, you're in the culinary industry. And Bobby Flai and Gordon Ramsey both said, I'll take him. Belichick,

Kyle Shanahan, both said, I'll take him. I'm going to try. I'm going to try. their opinion over a guy retweeting adult videos and the critics on Twitter. I'm sorry, I just have to. It's not smug. It's honest. In an off season where Garoppolo had shoulder surgery on his throwing arm, where he was kind of shunned by his team, was not given a playbook, was suddenly thrust into a starting role despite not practicing or playing in the preseason,

he's missing his left tackle, the best left tackle in football and his top running back. He now has a passer rating in the NFL that's higher than Brady and Joe Burroughs today, seventh, and a touchdown interception ratio that is third. Folks, at some point, I know it's so hard to admit you're wrong. The Niners are really good and one of the reasons is this dude. Kyle Shanahan's won 24% of his games in San Francisco when, Jimmy doesn't start. It's not the prettiest ball, the biggest arm, but accurate, quick release.

Greg Kosell came on yesterday and said, they asked him to make tough throws. And he does. And by the way, he doesn't throw interceptions either. Bobby Flay, Gordon Ramsey. I'll take that, chef. That's just pretty good. I don't know much about being a chef. I can't cook anything.

I mean, I make scrambled eggs and English muffins. I feel like I've accomplished something. I don't know anything. But I know they know stuff. And I don't sit and watch film. But when Shanahan and Belichick are like, I'll take him. From 2000 to 2014, Garoppolo was the highest drafted Patriot quarterback. And they drafted quarterbacks constantly.

And he wanted, Bill wanted to move off Brady. Kraft wouldn't let him. The first coach that called Shanahan, I'll take him. J-Mack with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Brumbled eggs, huh? Is it your go-to for breakfast?

Well, no, that's my dinner. I can't, you know, I don't have to know the culinary industry, but if smart people in it like something, it's probably good. Agreed. All right, let's get started here. Russell Westbrook, Colin, in breaking news in the last 30 minutes, according to Wojj, Russell Westbrook is going to come off the bench tonight in the preseason. Oh, my. Final game of the preseason, Darvindham's been exploring the possibility of Russ leading the second unit.

So they're going to give it a go tonight. I'm sure it's just coincidental that it comes out after this incident at the last Lakers game. Remember Patrick Beverly, national television, weirdness with Russ? Well, listen, before Patrick Beverly arrived and Dennis Schrooter, we thought Ross was an odd fit. Remember that Dennis Schrooter has moved a lot because he's prickly. Okay, so he's not going to put up with Westbrook stuff. And Patrick Beverly pokes and prods professionally. So the Lakers brought on two strong personalities with strong voices,

and my takeaway was not to elevate Westbrook, to annoy Westbrook. They did it. First of all, they needed those players, and those players right now are both better. Shrewder's giving me 50 a game and can shoot, and Beverly's a 3-&D guy. Right now, they're not as talented, but they're both better than Westbrook. So this idea they brought him on and it was just, no, they brought those guys on. to irritate Westbrook. And by the way, why are they doing this and why is it leaked?

To irritate Westbrook, who changed agents, who put his house up for sale. They want Russell gone. Well, I texted someone as soon as I saw this news, trainer works out a lot of NBA players. They said Russ's value is super low right now. If you saw he took like three shots in the last game when he started, moving him to the bench allows him free rein. He could put up a ton of shots, accumulate a lot of stats.

Hey, guys, look around the league. Look at Russell Westbrook. He's putting up big numbers. With our second unit, do you want him? So his elevation, playing with the second unit, could get stats and get him chipped out of town. I think you're right. Russ is going to be gone sooner than later. Yep.

Next story, Colin, the Eagles. Eagles Cowboys Sunday night, obviously. Eagles, a final undefeated team in the league. Jalen Hertz is 5'0. The offense has a tough matchup with the Cowboys, and DeMarcus Lawrence is jawjacking about how confident Dallas's defense is. Listen to this stuff. Has he played us? Different teams run different schemes.

All you need to write is he hasn't played the Cowboys yet, so we don't know how good he is. They do have a pretty good offense. They got a good wide receiver core, good quarterback, good O line, so they're well-rounded. But also, we them boys. Remember that. Don't worry about it. Y'all will see it on Sunday. You know, I will say this for DeMarcus Lawrence.

I thought he was invisible at times last year. I think he's off to a great start. So remember, he had a really, really good year about three or four years ago, got paid, and I just kind of felt like I never saw the same guy. He has been exceptional, and maybe some of it is, so much attention facing the Cowboys, is to block Micah Parsons. But Micah's great, Trayvon Diggs, DeMarcus Lawrence is back to being the guy they paid. He's been exceptional.

But I'll just say this. They face some bad offensive lines, okay? The Rams' offensive line is really hurting. A couple weeks ago, they faced, I think the Bears, was it Giants? I mean, they beat up on bad offensive lines. I like Philly this week. Philly's offensive line is the tops in the league. And by the way, all their guys are healthy.

Kelsey's good. The left tackle is good. Do you like Philly? I got to save it for later in the show. Come on. But the line's up to six and a half. It was four and a half. I know. Philadelphia was the side early in the week. Now it's up to six and a half. You're going to miss the best number. But I do think Philly wins 2720. That's my, I think Philadelphia controls the game. You think Dallas gets to 20 points, huh? Cooper Rush, third straight road game. Well, they block punts. They get turnovers. We'll see. All right. Final story. Carson Wentz. Can I say your guy? Carson. Wentz, I know you'd like to defend him a lot. Seven and O on Thursday.

7 and 0, he had 99 yards passing last night. All right, so anyways, Carson Wentz's coach, Ron Rivera. Boy, he got a little heated last night after the win. Strongly defended Wentz. And he kind of went off. A couple obscenities here. Earmuffet, if your little kids are watching. It's been hard. It really has. You lose four games in row, and everybody wants to get you, you know, just get on you.

And they've played their off. They have. They play their ass off for everybody. They come out and they show up. They work hard. All right. They don't complain. Okay? They hear all the stuff and they got to deal with it. I get them.

I respect them for that because they're resilient. They come back. Everybody keeps wanting to say, I didn't want anything to do with Carson. Well, bull-h-h-h-h-I'm the fucking guy that pulled out the sheets of paper, that looked at the analytics, that watched the tape in the freaking when we're at Indianapolis. Okay? And that's what pusses me off. Because the young man doesn't deserve to have that all the time.

I'm sorry. I'm done. For the record, I like Ron. You know I like Wentz better than everybody else. But when I watched that game last night, I thought the Bears' offensive coordinator, I thought they moved the pocket, I thought they were clever. I do not like what Washington's offense looks like. I think Washington's offense has some talent.

I like their receivers. I don't think the Bears' offense had any talent or very little. But I think Luke Getzzi did the most you can do with what he has. I think Washington is underachieving offensively. 99 yards passing for your guy, Carson. You know I like Wentz. You guys all bang on him, but I... You can have him.

By the way, the Chicago Bears, Colin, drove inside the 10-yard line three times and got zero points. Okay. Like, I bet Washington, I said Washington on the show, but they were not the better team last night. We can agree on that, right? I think Chicago, I honestly think Chicago's well-coached, but their history is they can't draft offense.

I don't like the O-line. I don't like the receivers. Washington's got players on offense. They don't use them effectively. So just to be clear, you like Iber Fluse and you like Carson Wins. No, no. I think Iber Flue. I watch the Bears and I believe they are well coached and well coordinated.

I watch Washington and I don't like their OC. I think they're not creative. I don't think they put Wentz. You know, we always blame the quarterback here. But if you don't like, like right now, Washington, Wence has, why was Wince better last year with Frank Reich? Because he's an offensive coach. Did Wynch just forget how to play?

I mean, we look all around this league. It's funny, what offenses are struggling? A lot of defensive coaches. I think offensive coaches, our next guest, had Rex Ryan. I like Rex. Rex made it hard. Offensive coaches make it easier for quarterback. Wence did have one of the best offensive lines in the league in the Colts last year,

and Jonathan Taylor, who led the league in Russia. It's funny. How's the offense in Indy now? 32nd and scoring. It's very bad. Matt Ryan is. You always want to blame the quarterback. This is a team game.

I like quarterbacks, especially our next guest. Yeah, it sounds like you love them. J-MAC with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Heard Lye News. Let's bring on Mark Sanchez, who has to listen to J-MAC, crushing quarterback. I'm here.

Jets. I'm here defending quarterback. There's questions for you. There's a question. Thank you, Mark. I put my answers on there. Can I go? Yeah, there we go.

So let me ask. I can't see straight. My kids got a flag football game today at 4.30. Oh, boy. You got a lot of stuff going on. We got, you know, pregame speech is just, boys, it ain't about having fun. It's about eating those other kids asses. That's right.

You know what I mean? Winning the game, ruining their Friday. That's right. And going to pizza after. My kind of dad. Here's what I worry about, because I have said this with Justin Fields. Can we please be patient? This is an organization that if I said to you best bears receiver in the history of the franchise,

you can't name one. So some organizations, they know defense, some no offense. Here's what I worry about a little bit. Josh Allen, many people use the comp. Defensive head coach, just saying. Windy, battle line, no run game. What can they do with it? The difference is I saw, I always feel Josh Allen, I've always felt Mark, he's comfortable in the pocket.

He likes to throw the ball. Correct. With Justin, I don't always feel that. He's better rolling. He's amazing on the move. Excellent. But you can't roll. every play. It's exhausting.

But he also needs some help. He needs a consistent run game. I think they tried with that stuff, but J-MAC said the stat. I mean, you're inside the five-yard line or inside the 10 three times. Got to get points. And we can't get points. Last, you know, goal to go, he gets you a 30-plus yard scramble, gets you

down to the goal line to win the game. And, you know, four shots at the end zone, and you come up empty. It's it's tough sledding in Chicago right now. Most importantly, he just needs help. He needs players. I mean, if he's going to move around like that and run around and extend plays, you've got to have guys that can run scramble drill. Guys who know how to get open who understand spacing.

Tell people what scramble drill is. So basically when the play breaks down, and you have these sometimes scripted in practice and unscripted, but when the play breaks down and you roll one way or another, receivers have their original routes that are drawn on these nice pretty sheets of paper that we get all week. Yeah. But at the end of the day, it's complete the ball. And so these guys know immediately, quarterback breaks the pocket. Okay, am I the near receiver? I got to get near the quarterback, mirror him.

If I'm a little bit behind him, stay kind of in my lane, but get to the middle of the field kind of in between the hash and the numbers and start to throttle down and find his own. If I'm deep, stay deep. Because a lot of times the deep defenders will run up to the quarterback. Boom, stay deep. Throw your hand up. You might get a free cherry pick on the opposite.

end of the field. And then if you're on the opposite end, you know, basically eat up some grass and come make yourself, make yourself useful. You know what I mean? And it just doesn't look like it's in sync there. You know, when Aaron Rogers breaks the pocket, everybody knows what to do. Mahomes breaks a pocket. Josh Allen breaks the pocket. It's like, boom. All right, boys, plays over. Let's go. The second part of this play just began. And you just don't see it as much there. And you really feel for the guy because he's got amazing talent, right? I mean, we've seen it in college. We've seen it in flashes.

It's just the consistency and, you know, help around them. Yeah. I think quarterbacks are 70% of the game coaches, 30% in college, that's probably flipped. I mean, Sabin wins with everybody at quarterback. Right. But I'm watching, you can see good coaching. No doubt. I'm watching the New York Giants.

Oh. I mean, they have. We had that game last week. Okay, let's talk about that. I think. Unbelievable. In the off season, there was special. speculation it was the league outside of left tackle it was the league's worst offensive line they dominated the second half long drives what do you i watch dable and i'm like that is coaching well one you got to inspire these guys right you got to get them to trust you and the only way to do that is to have some measured success early right like go do this trust me boom it works just one time you keep coming back for more i keep going back to the well

and some of the best coaches I've been around have a way of getting you psyched for the game, but you feel calm as if Hay's in the barn, there's nothing else to worry about today. We worked our butt off all week. I'm ready to go. I want to be jumping out of my skin. I want to go jack this team up,

but I also want to play with them myself and play with poise. Pete was a master at that. You know, certain coaches have that ability. It looks like day ball's doing that with these guys. and then, I mean, there's no secret. Who's your best player? Thank you. Sequin Barclay.

Feed the guy, you know, and sometimes I'm scratching my head. We got the Panthers this weekend. I'm like, Christian McCaffrey's your best player. For him to have less than 10 carries in a game, I mean, that's like a cardinal sin. That can't happen. Barkley is the number one. Right. So it's just, in the past game, all your receivers are down.

Okay, Sequan's our first option. He's our second option, and he's our third option. I don't care, get 26 the ball, hand it to him, pitch it to him, snap it to the guy. I don't care, get him the ball. And I can't say enough about what Daniel Jones did last week. I mean, it was incredible. The dude just stood there and took shots, then is running around on this ankle that's probably swollen. He's all banged up, bleeding.

And the dude just rushes for a first down on third down, extends drives, stands in the pocket, staring down the barrel and just deliver strikes over the ball. I was blown away. It was his best performance by far. And I was shocked. They pulled off the upset, but it's just, how are they going to keep doing it? You know, because, I mean, they have so many guys down. Like, you lose Sterling Shepard.

You lose all these wideouts, right? And credit to them. And don't forget about the defense now. Wink Martindale. But you don't think Baltimore was missing Wing Martindale? They gave a couple 20-point leads in the fourth quarter. At home? Back-to-back weeks? I mean, they got to play them this week, so that's going to be a serious matchup.

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One of the prettiest deep balls in the league. I mean, like rainbow. Oh, yeah. Now he can't throw it. He misses badly. He's underthrow it. So my takeaway is you don't go from something great to off a cliff. There's the lat issue.

People think that's just, he put it out there to save himself. There's the coach issue. Could you explain the fall off a cliff on anything over 25 yards for Russell? I can't figure it out, Mark. He's one of the deadliest deep ball throwers around, you know, and they would take timely shots. They'd run it, you know, to death with Marshaun Lynch or whatever. And then you'd see this beautiful ball that looks like it got shot out of a jugs machine

just land in someone's, you know, t-shirt. For 10 years. Yeah. And I can't quite put my finger on it. My only thing is I think Coach Carroll made a, you know, a business decision saying, okay, if this guy's going to run around and that's what he does. And this scramble drill, which we mentioned last segment, if that's going to be our offense and he's starting to get a little older and can't move quite as much, you don't see him making those kind of second half of the play plays.

Yeah. and extending plays. Okay, let's cut bait and move on and see where we go. And right now, Gino? It looks right. I mean, Gino Smith,

are you kidding me? Like, I remember him coming into the league. We got his game in two weeks, not this Sunday, but next Sunday against the Chargers. But when he came in the league, I was like,

I don't know if this guy, like, loves it. That's what I felt when I met it. I don't know if he's like, you know, and then I'm watching the first game, and I'm like, okay, well, amazing first half, right?

Like, okay, maybe he comes back down to Earth a little bit, or maybe they pull the reins back a little bit just because they know they're playing with house money at this point and they didn't expect it, right? And then he just keeps going. And he hasn't stopped. It blew my mind, but I can't say what a transition. Like, I can't speak enough about the transition he's made

because I saw him as a young pup when he first walked in the building. And I was like, I don't know. I don't know if that's it. Some of the, you know, it takes a village. It takes a village. It absolutely does. Absolutely. And the most important voices, you know, your head coach is very important.

What Coach Carroll's done for his confidence. I mean, you can't say enough about that. That's right. Seattle's shockingly competitive. And they're going to be in the right position. Now, are they a better player for player than all these rosters that they're going to face? Probably not. But they're going to be in the right position.

And we're going to make the routine plays. every once in a while we're going to have to take our shot and flip a coin. We'll see what happens. And they're doing it. It's incredible. Well, Pete's a great college coach. The book on Pete was always, he's great with young players. Of course.

Or guys who are like hungry, right? Who want answers who need a little love, attention, you know, effort, relationship. And Seattle's young now. And they're young guys. Jumping out of their skin, man. Ready to go. So it's interesting. So you saw Green Bay,

week. And I don't think they played bad. I think this is what they are. What I worry about is what happened to their defense. They're not running it as well as they should. Aaron seems frustrated. I just happen to get lucky on this. I didn't think they'd be great this year. I thought Minnesota would win the division and kind of comfortably. So now Zach Wilson goes in there. And it's interesting now. Zach's, the Jets, whatever you want to say, they have better offensive weapons right now this morning than Green Bay. I really believe that. I think they've drafted well, Mark. Those two wide outs are pretty good in Green Bay.

They're coming along. So do you tell me, London Hangover? Can the jets beat Green Bay? How do you view it? I don't know. I think Aaron's going to be too upset. He's going to be too focused and like killer instinct.

And, you know, let's eliminate the silly mistakes. And if we got to run it 40 times, I don't care. But I'm, I predict Green Bay goes on a little bit of a terror here. and starts mopping teams up. But the jets are scary. Coming into Lambo, though, that's a real deal. Then, whether it's not a factory yet.

Coming back from London, that kind of hangover after that loss, you just got to keep those guys together. And this is really a chance where, you know, Aaron's got to bring along these young guys, and it takes time. I mean, the kids out of Reno,

Dubbs, the kid from Watson's got to be, you know, North Dakota State, like those guys, this kind of adversity on this kind of stage because of number 12, your quarterback, one of the best ever, these guys, I mean, everything's showing up on your phone, you know, the drop early in the year. Like, they got to eliminate a lot of these distractions and Aaron's got to be one of the guys to bring those guys in. And, you know, it's just time on test. The things like, he can't assume that these guys know everything they know. And he talked about it in our production meeting and it was incredible, but like Jordan later in his career, Kobe later in

in his career, like you've got to bring along these young guys and give them the tough love, but you can't expect, you know, you set the bar really high, but you can't expect too much and make it, you know, overcoach them and make them think too much because most importantly, they're going to make mistakes. They're young. They're little kids. It's like raising kids, right? They're little kids. They're going to touch the stove even when you tell them not to, right? So what do you do? You coach. Coach them to what you want. Don't say don't.

Don't say don't drop the ball. That doesn't help. You already envisioned dropping the ball, right? Don't hit it in the water and golf. Well, I already see the ball splashing in the water. That's no good. Tell me what you want, right? And coach what you want.

Eyes, fingertips, focus. Boys, go play free. Have a ball out there today. Ball's coming in the air. It's your ball. That's it, bottom line. And those kind of conversations have to happen. And it's going to say a lot about Aaron in this twilight of his career on how those guys developed because it's a lot on him.

And that's a lot on his plate. All right. You're covering the Rams game this week. You're going up to practice right now? Right now. Mark Sanchez, this guy is steadfast in his work ethic. And then he's going to go bark at kids and his kids are going to trample the other kids today. These days, every new potential hire can feel like a high-stakes wager for your small business.

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