The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - Bo Nix last night

Episode Date: December 3, 2024

Colin looks at each of the quarterback performances from Bo Nix and Jameis Winston on Monday Night Football Thoughts on how good the Bears HC position is LeBron James is going through a slump right now   Guest: Nick WrightSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Full show. Jam, Stack Show. So, you know, Jimmy Johnson, J. Mack was on our show a week ago. And one of the things he said, and this is one of his mantras, is that you lose a lot more games in the NFL than you win. And that was James Winston and Cleveland last night. First downs, Cleveland had more. Passing first downs, Cleveland. Third down efficiency, Cleveland was better.

Fourth down, Cleveland was better. Passing yards, Cleveland was better. Possession. Dominate time of possession. Cleveland was better. Yeah, they had those pick six things. you lose a lot more games than you win, and James Winston was Exhibit A last night.

Bo Nix never took a sack. James Winston took a couple of beauties, like really badly timed sacks. Bo Nix had two picks. One was a deflection. One was like a change of possession, downfield a punt. James had four, two or pick sixes and one in the end zone. So sometimes a quarterback needs to be boring and manage the game.

James Winston is never boring. He's evil-knevil at quarterback. He's a walking bachelor party. He's a parachutist who forgets his parachute. Those skydivers don't last long. Bo Nix, however, as a rookie, had a sense of timing when to let it loose and when not to. And last night was a shootout. And shootouts happen in the NFL.

And James Winston, of his 85 snaps, you went wow with about a dozen of them. and then you went, ugh, with about four to five of them. Now, Bo Nix had just 66 snaps. He had a couple of wows, but it was mostly, there we go, add a quarterback, there you go, slide, get down, get the first down. Again, very few wows, but Bo Nix didn't really have a, oh, no, and that's James's career. I'd argue James Winston is arguably the most talented quarterback in this league I would never build around. No, thank you. He would drive you nuts.

Also, and I thought this was really telling. And I've said this before. A coaching staff will tell you what they think of your young quarterback by what they allow him to do. It's almost like with your kids. You will tell me how much you trust your kids. by what you allow them to do, Sean Payton, multiple times, with a lead against Miles Garrett and the Cleveland pass rush,

Sean Payton allowed Bo Nix multiple times to drop back deep in his end zone. He trusts the kid. That, to me, was telling. James Winston's a quarterback with a ton of talent, size, arm, nobody trusts him. Sean Payton's like, kid, let her rip, go down the field, roll out, and Cleveland, with a lead,

He's a rookie. Nah, it's okay. And to me, that was telling. And everybody keeps asking, well, is Denver for real? Folks, look at the boxes that playoff teams that win games check. Head coach, Denver A-plus. Quarterback, capable. Pass-rusher, Nick Benito, elite.

Offensive line. PFF ranks Denver number two. Weapon, I love Cortland Sutton. Cornerback, best in the league. every playoff box they check coach quarterback pass rusher weapon o line elite corner check check check check check i could argue kansas city didn't have all those boxes checked now they've got mahomes and it's only bo nicks but this was a classic example this game didn't look anything like Denver thought it was going to look like and bo nicks didn't have a lot of wow but he didn't have six oh what was that

Here's Sean Payton after. Some games go maybe in a direction. You think they're going to go. Obviously, that one went in a much different direction. It was good to get the win. That's important because we're in this, you know, we're at that time of the season into December here where all these things matter. And, you know, we were able to do that.

Okay, so if you look at the playoff picture, the Broncos get a buy, and then they get a host Indianapolis. the closest AFC team to them in the playoff hunt. They'll be favored in that game and should be. Denver at 8 and 5, week off, perfect timing, off a win, feeling good, hosting an offense that can't throw the ball with any consistency, Indianapolis. I think Denver wins goes 9 and 5. And again, if you ask yourself, are they for real?

Do they check the six boxes? They check all of them. Little young at quarterback, but 61 college starts. Makes you feel pretty good about that in the way Peyton Letts, Bo Nix, run around in the end zone, tells me all I need to know. He trusts him in big spots. Okay, so I said this yesterday. I think Jay Mack brought this up.

We were talking about, is the Bears a good job? Well, so Kevin Warren, the president, they could have hired Jim Harbaugh last year, but Jim Harbaugh didn't like Kevin Warren. Kevin Warren used to run the Big Ten. They don't like each other. And so that's not going to happen. And you know, so you just kind of retain Matt Eberflus,

who, you know, came into the season on the hot seat. So hot he's gone. But yesterday, Kevin Warren made a pitch that this is a really good job, but he may be right. We're going to have plenty of salary cap space. We have a young, talented roster. We have strong draft capital in the upcoming draft. And we have a quarterback in Caleb Williams who's shown he is very special,

and in the right environment, he can become even more special than he already has shown. You look at all of these elements as we sit here today. We are in a unique situation. This will be the most coveted job in the National Football League this year. Now, at first I thought, give me a break. McCaskies, never had a 4,000-yard quarterback. And then I started thinking, well, there were questions about the Chargers, but they had the quarterback, right?

There were questions for years and years. The Spanos family, they're cheap. Chargering. I mean, there was a lot of stuff about the Chargers. They moved to L.A., played in a small stadium. Is it right? And all of a sudden, you're like, yeah, they got the coaching staff right. they had the quarterback.

So I thought about the job opening. Chicago, the Jets, the Saints, probably the Jaguars, the Cowboys. I tend to think the Giants in Cincinnati should retain their coaches. Not sure if they will, but I would. So if you're talking about what did Jim Harbaugh, what was he attracted to, it's quarterback.

And the two best would be Chicago and Jacksonville. Now the Jaguars have the younger, richer ownership. That is something. And also, the Jaguars playing a much easier division whoever gets that Bears job, good luck against Green Bay and Detroit, that have stacked young ascending rosters,

and good luck with Minnesota, they may have the best coach in the division. But I was thinking about these two jobs. In Chicago, if you win, and I think coaches have to have healthy egos, the great ones do, the Sean Payton, the Belichicks, the Vrables, Andy Reid. I mean, the best coach is McVeigh, Shanahan. There's a confidence. You know, some will say arrogance, but I think it's a confidence. And here's the thing about Chicago.

If you win in Chicago, you're a rock star. Chicago had Oprah and Michael Jordan and Ditka and Mayor Daly and Wrigley Field and Belushi and Farley. Jacksonville? Hey, they're opening a Chipotle next Wednesday. I mean, even if you win there. I mean, Jacksonville's where mobsters go to hide, Chicago was the mob. like it matters more Chicago historically

architecturally politically it's big Chicago is big yeah the division is going to be really tough but I mean Trevor Lawrence or Caleb Williams

Trevor Lawrence is on what his fourth injury even when Jacksonville's been good the whole country's like can we get back to the Steelers and Patriots and Manning and Brady and winning games like Chicago matters.

It's dysfunctional. Their politics and their sports are dysfunctional. Their history is fascinating. I just think there's a rock star quality to it. And if you look at what the best coaches generally look at, and this is why the Jets job is dicey. Not only do you not have a young ascending quarterback, you've got an old prickly one in Aaron Rogers,

who's increasingly expensive. In Dallas, I like Dak. Everybody likes Dak. but as the highest paid player, he's a BB plus quarterback coming off another injury. I think Chicago's the best job for a lot of reasons. And one of it, coaches have egos, and if you hit it in Chicago, you're big. And that matters. There are certain franchises, the late John Madden used to tell our management all the time.

Certain games sound big. Green Bay. Against the Niners. Who knows who's who's. quarterback. It sounds big. Raven Steelers. Even when Kenny Pickett played. It sounds big. The Bears can't get quarterback right. If the Bears are playing Green Bay tomorrow, they could be 0 and 8.

You'd be like, oh, it's the Packers and the Bears playing. And I think that stuff matters. And for that, I do think, and Caleb Williams, and Montez Sweat, Jalen Johnson, Keenan Allen, Cole Kamatt, DJ Moore, I think it is the best job. I've reconsidered. I mean, also, I get Caleb for three more years minimum on a rookie contract. That matters, too. I've already paid Trevor Lawrence, and he's expensive.

It hasn't lived up to the contract. So I think the Bears is the best job. J. Mack? Yeah, I love when you have a good reconsider. Why? I slept on it. Especially after I present the facts. You did, and I was a little dire.

and I, you know, it's just been such a mess there. And then I went home and I thought about it and I thought, boom, check, check, check. I like their players. We both like their talent. We both like their tight end receivers. We thought a year ago, we thought their tackles were good enough. Now they regress badly under a defensive coach. My guess is if you get the right coach, it's like Denver, by the way.

Two years ago, before Sean Payton got there, we thought the Broncos O line was a good left tackle and nonsense. PFF hasn't necessarily. number two. Well, that's Sean Payton. He got at the top 10 last year. Now he's got at the top two. Andy Reid, by the way, is constantly rebuilding the online in Kansas City. They always find a solution by the trading deadline or November. So I kind of think it's the best gig. So the New Orleans Saints job is open. You know, that division is going to be winnable every year because nobody's good. But is there any talent on the Saints compared to the Bears? It's night and day. It's not even close. I think the, you know, I would rather have a different ownership group in Chicago. But

I don't know. I mean, and also the Bears have, again, they've got the 11th pick. And if you look at their schedule, they'll probably end up with the eighth or ninth pick. And this draft is considered very top-heavy. So that many people are saying there's only about 10 to 12 first-round players this year. The Bears will get another one. I mean, again, Raiders' job could be open. I mean, Pierce has got him.

They're fighting hard. He just seems clueless. Is that a good job compared to the Bears? Well, I get, I will. The Raiders is interesting. I get Brock Bowers, who is the best young tight end I've ever seen. He's a tight end. I get Max Crosby, an elite pass rusher.

And I get Colton Miller left tackle. So there are three boxes. Star weapon, left tackle, pass rusher. Okay, so I have a new GM who has a history of drafting pretty well. I mean, Harbaugh took over the chargers. They got some good players. So there's some boxes there I like. But if you don't have a quarterback, now the hit rate for quarterbacks is going up over the last six to seven years.

more of these guys are not only hitting, but the guys that failed, Gino, Darnold, Baker, they're being reborn with better offensive coaching than 10 years ago. So I just think if I have Caleb for four years, I don't have to pay him in this roster, I'm going to deal with the Lions and the Packers. Excellence, that's a better job. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. On Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeard Radio, Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers.

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So Lakers lost again last night, and LeBron James, since he came into this league, even as a rookie, if you go back to LeBron James' rookie year, take away the first two months when he's straight out of high school, he's 18 years old. After the first two months, from that point forward, he averaged 22 points a game and six and a half assists and finish top 10 in MVP voting. So even his rookie year, he was probably eighth, ninth, tenth, best player in the NBA. and he's been in that top 10 forever, and then there's the last four or five games. So he is in an all-time slump, and it's his legs. In his last five games, he's shooting 39%. And on his best nights, LeBron James is a top 10-ish player.

And Michael Jordan, by the way, at 39 years old, scored 40 points three times. I saw one of those, and he had 30 several times. but MJ and LeBron now are defensive liabilities. And if you're talking about over the course of a season, he is no longer a top 10 player. And that's the first time in his career, I can say that. Yokic is, Wemby, Janus, Luca, A.D., Donovan Mitchell, Jason Tatum, SGA, Steph Curry.

I think on a, you know, and again, they've had five games in seven nights. So the first thing to go is your legs. And that's why he shot an air ball. last night that he missed the rim by three feet and it wasn't short or long it was to the left it was bad so you for the first time ever uh lebron does not feel and this first time in like 20 some years he does not feel like a top 10 player in the game again he'll have his nights he'll have his moments and we saw that last night and the night before and he'll have his moments but at first time in his career i do not believe over the course of the season uh because you can say well when he's rested

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19 straight three-pointers. J-MAC has never missed 19 straight three-pointers. I'm not saying J-Max LeBron. I'm saying he's a gunner. But the point is 19 straight is beyond... Look at this one. Boo, that's brutal. I mean, that is an 84-mile-hour fastball.

I mean, these are bad. For LeBron, who's got a pretty nice touch, I'm not knocking him. Like, the guy's been... There's no player in the history of the league that was top 10 in the league for 20-plus years. Kareem's the only one close. But I think, and again, LeBron's going to have a 35-point game at some point during the season.

I was at Michael Jordan's last year with the Wizards. I went to one of the games in which he had 40. He was unbelievable. But it's, uh, Michael wasn't playing defense. Michael was inconsistent. Michael didn't get along with teammates. That's why JJ Reddick very early in this maiden rookie season of coaching, first game, he handed the keys to AD.

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You know, I'm over here. I'm resisting the urge to chime in on LeBron. I'm sure there'll be an opportunity later. Got to defend the king. Let's start in the NFL with the Eagles in their eighth game winning street, Colin. Jalen Hertz has quietly been phenomenal. 20 touchdowns.

They're rushing and passing and just two turnovers during that stretch. But weirdly, the ink-stained wretches in the media are calling him a game manager. Unbelievable. Partially because he just threw five times in the second half against the Ravens.

Nick Siriotty is shutting down that narrative. You'll say, well, game manager, that's all bullshit. Like, Jalen played an awesome game. And his stats are going to say, we didn't throw it a lot. We were 11 to 19. He had 118 yards, but that guy made runs when he needed to make runs.

He made good checks. You know, we haven't thrown it a lot in the fourth quarter in the past month and a half of the season. So, you know, Jalen's stats aren't going to say that. But Jalen deserves, you know, Sequin deserves being a MVP consideration. Well, Justin Herbert doesn't put up big numbers because there's a different way to attack it. I mean, the truth is Brady could have had much better numbers in his career, but they often played with leads in the second half.

And so you call a game differently. You're trying to eat the clock and shrink a game. When Tom Brady's 35 and you're thinking, we lead 27-17, middle third, you're trying to get the clock moved down. So, I mean, to me, I'm never been a stats guy. Mahomes is the best quarterback. I think this year, Josh Allen and Lamar looked like the better quarterbacks. I don't care much about stats.

I know this for Jalen Hertz. He and A.J. Brown are great together. He helped Sekewon Barclay. Nick Sariani said he got some really important checks. That stuff matters. All I know is Herbert and Jalen Hertz are franchise quarterbacks. Joe Burroughs putting up massive numbers because he trails, because he has to. He has no choice.

So I don't get too caught up in, you know, like pass. I always look at sort of completion percentage and passer rating. Can you get to at least 64% completion percentage? If you're into the 50s, it scares me. And is your passer rating 98 or above? You're good. So I think the only mistake Siriani made here was saying, yeah, Jalen deserves MVP consideration. Well, no.

Let's not go there. He's not an MVP. The Eagles, fun stat, they are last in pass attempts this season. And I know people will say, like, oh, there's a passing link. Just stop. The Eagles know what they are. We're going to run the football on you and just wear you down and then kill you at the play action with A.J. Brown. And when DeVontes Smith comes back, good luck guarding both of them.

I mean, I don't know how many pass attempts James Winston had last night, but it had to be close to... 58, I believe. Yeah. Do you really want that, by the way? And they were winning late in the fourth quarter, and he's still chucking and ducking. I don't want that. I don't want Patent Manning and his prime throwing 58 times. I don't want Mahomes doing it with Kansas City's tackles.

The bottom line is that Buffalo Bills are a better football team, the less they rely on Josh Allen. I mean, James Cook has changed their offense. They have a home run hitter. For years and years, we were always like they can't establish a run game. Now they have one so Josh Allen on certain drives can be your number two pitch. So I don't want my quarterback throwing. I mean, Dak Prescott's history. If he throws over 3080s awful.

If he throws like 35 or less, he's pretty good. Yeah. Isn't it weird how three of the best teams in the league? Buffalo, Detroit, and Philadelphia dominate the line of scrimmage and run the football down your throat. Funny how that works. I'm told it's a passing quarterback league, but this is still one in the trenches, and that's where these three teams are dominate. They're the three best teams in the league, right?

Look at their running games. You can't stop them. Like, that's what's smart. I just don't get it. Next up, no, boy, I don't know what Bill Belichick's doing here, and this is a good question for Brady when he comes on later. So Aaron Rogers is struggling. You and I have called this all season.

Belichick, for some reason, is defending Aaron Rogers, saying the 41-year-old could easily rebound and have a good year next year, adding sometimes one season is just a bump in the road. It's not necessarily the end of the road. Now, obviously, Belichick's forgotten more football than you and I know combined. But this is insane. Jim, I mean, Bill's never had a great sense of offense. We all know that.

Matt Patricia, the offensive coordinator. Missed was not a good, I mean, when's the last skill player, Belichick drafted? It could be gronk, I don't know, skill player that was a pro bowler. So you could say, well, well, this guy, Steve Spagnola doesn't know offense. And Bill Belichick does not. He's not his, he's tone deftful out offense. He reached on draft picks offensively. He could not get a wide receiver right.

So the idea that I think Bill Belichick is a great coach. He's the best defensive coach ever. I don't want him near my personnel. I don't want him near it. So all these coaches have holes. Jimmy Johnson and Sean Payton and McVeigh, they know personnel. Like a lot of these coaches, like Andy Reid's like, it's not my thing. and Andy's the best play designer and play caller arguably of my lifetime.

I think the issue is like, okay, so Belichick's doing a lot of media now, but if he's going to say nonsense like this, because he doesn't want to like ruffle feathers, Aaron Rogers would probably agree this is the worst season he's had in 15 years. Maybe the worst season of his career. He's not a top 18 quarter of him. Colin, they got him Devante Adams, and he hasn't done anything with him. Zero impact. So like, even Rogers would say that.

So why is Belichick saying this? Do you think there's some wacky world where Belichick's like, if I take a job? No. And this is not a knock on Belichick. But since he's taking the job at ESPN, this is not a criticism of him. He has been sent. Rex Ryan did this when he first went to ESPN.

They send messages to the league. Bill is constantly sending messages to the league. So Bill would rather coach than do media. And he's doing a fine job. I'm not criticizing him. But Rex Ryan sent a message about a week ago. Damn right, I'd take that Jets job. That was a message to Woody Johnson.

So coaches do this all the time when they get tired of this side of the microphone and want to be on the other side. And I think I would do it too if I was a football. Bill Parcells and who I love. You know, these guys all, Sean Payton was here for a year. I went to dinner with Sean. I'm like, you've got a coach. You're good at this stuff. You've got a coach.

And I knew I was going to lose him 20 times a year. But Belichick needs to be a football coach. So Belichick using a mic to send a message. When are you going to do that to get us some nice contracts here at Fox? That's a different discussion. Okay. Final story is Kirk Cousins. Colin, he is really struggling six interceptions in the last three games.

He had four against the Chargers. I mean, this is embarrassing. There is chatter about rookie Michael Pennix Jr. You know, maybe taking over. But yesterday, the media asked him about it, and Pennix said that he believes cousins will bounce back. Rahe Morris added the team is sticking with cousins. They will not turn to Pennix.

Falcons are five-point underdogs in Minnesota. and I should add, I got some numbers here for you. We know the Vikings are one of the number one or two blitz teams in the league. Do you want to know Kirk Cousins' numbers under pressure this year? Eight interceptions under pressure, second most in the NFL, and under pressure 12 turnover-worthy plays, according to pro football focus. That's tops in the NFL. This is a recipe for disaster this weekend for Cousins, Colin, in Minnesota.

It's interesting. I looked at, I have blazing five this week. I was struggling to find it. Now, underdogs did very well over Thanksgiving. college and pro. A lot of underdogs did well. Go look at the lines this week. I struggled. I liked every favorite.

You liked Minnesota here? For the same reason. You watch, I mean, it's... Well, the number was four and a half yesterday. I see it's up to five now, I guess. So that tells you the wise guy. The Sharps went and bet Minnesota. Yeah, I don't know.

You know, there's a bunch of guys who claim to be film guys now on social media, and you go on there and they're breaking down film. they are claiming that Cousins has some kind of injury that's been undisclosed. And if you watch some of the throws, it's like, is he healthy? I mean, Colin, he was not moving against the chargers. He would rather just throw the ball and it's getting batted down at the line. He couldn't drive the ball. That was very clear.

And is there a shoulder issue? I don't know. Would you consider turning to penics? Absolutely, I would. I have no problem with it. If he's ready. Now, again, this very much Lamar Jackson with Joe Flacco. Flacco got old fast, boom, they put him in.

If Pennix is showing you at practice, he's ready. He may be Jordan Love where he needs another year or something, but he played so many snaps at Indiana and Washington. I think he's ready to play, and he played in like a pro-style offense with Grubb as offensive coordinator. And Kalin DeBore. So to me, Pennix was very NFL ready. I said this.

Bo Nix, Pennix were ready to play. Drake May was not ready to play. He just wasn't ready to play, and I think you've seen that. J. Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Heard Lye News. I was watching Bo Nix last night, and I got this this morning.

Bo Nix since week four in the fourth quarter. These numbers are incredible. Fourth quarter rookie quarterback. 73% completion percentage, 111 pass-er rating six total touchdowns a pick. So there's two reasons for that. Sean Payton and Bo Nix started 61 college games. If you watch Anthony Richardson of the Colts, who started 13, college games, a quarter as many as Bo Nix.

You can watch Caleb Williams, Drake May, and Anthony Richardson, and you can see the babysitting by the coaching staff. Bo Nix last night, with a lead against a good pass rushes out there slinging it from the end zone. So this is one of these things, those 61 college starts, it's immeasurable. It's hard to quantify how much it means. It's like, when you're a young chef, your first job shouldn't be 630 to 830 Saturday, in a busy restaurant.

Right? Like, like, when you get your, you go to driver's ed class and the first time you get behind the wheel, probably shouldn't be on the Autobahn. Like, Bo Nex is ready to play. 61 college starts, SEC PAC 12, multiple coordinators, multiple coaches, dude is ready to play. And I was watching this last night. If you look at the playoff picture right now, Denver at 8 and 5, going to a by week, then the Colts, I think they look like a playoff team.

I think you're all asking about Bo Nix. I watched him last night. Yes, he is still growing. But I think he's fairly close to his ceiling. He's not going to get more athletic. He's not going to get bigger. I think his arm feels better than it was in college. I mean, where's Bo Nix going to grow?

He's going to grow in watching coverages. And that part's obvious. But I think he's fairly close to his ceiling. I don't think Caleb's close to his ceiling. I don't think Drake May is remotely close to his ceiling. I think Bo Nix is closer to. After 61 college starts, and then three-quarter of a season with, you know, Sean Peyton, what you're watching, what he's going to get is more refined, his completion percentage will go up.

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I feel bad. I don't know. I mean, I've been with the company eight and a half years. I mean, I don't know who needs to be bump in who. But I mean, I'll take it for your guy, Tom Brady. What I will say is this. This could be the start of the greatest 40-minute run in the history of the network. I mean, you and me together, then the herd hierarchy, long awaited, then Tom Brady and Colin?

I mean, I don't know if this needs to go in the time capsule, but I think so. So we don't have a lot of time. Let's do it. All right. Let's start with the Bears. I said earlier today, Jim Harbaugh said, I'll take the Chargers job. They have Justin Herbert. Kevin Warren yesterday said it's the best job opening, and I looked at it.

I get Caleb Williams. I'm not paying him for four years. DJ Moore, Keenan Allen, Montez Sweat. How would you, I mean, is it the best job? Well, it's of all the jobs that we expect to come open, like it's certainly better than the Jets and Saints jobs, which are already open. You know I love Trevor, but he has underwhelmed. That job should come open. The bear's job is better than that.

Before the year, there was thought, oh, is Philly or Buffalo going to be open? The answer to those are no, they are not. So take those off the board. Say Dallas comes open. The Bears job is better for everything you said, and it's why I understand everyone is going to go after Ben Johnson. But for the Bears in particular, you are pairing an offensive mind with Caleb, which I think they must do, and you are weakening your biggest inter-division competition in Detroit. So I think while a guy like Vrable would be great for Jacksonville, if that opens up to add stability,

I think Chicago has to go offensive mind and fresh ideas. I love the Ben Johnson idea if they could get him. And if I were Ben Johnson, of all the jobs that are open or are likely to come open, I certainly think Chicago is the most attractive because I believe in Caleb as much as I ever had. So I'm watching in the snow globe. And by the way, Buffalo looked like they were having the time of their lives. It was like when we were eight years old and it snowed for the first time. They were out there playing in the backyard.

But I noticed Josh Allen on one side and Brock Purdy on the other. And I thought, you want to pay them about the same? You and I always push back on the old Brockaroo. Yeah, we don't get yelled at as much as we once did. Those people switch over to Blue Sky from X. I don't know what happened to them. You just don't hear as much of people, why won't you give Brock Purdy his respect? And the answer is because Brock Purdy, like a lot of.

lot of players, is an indictment, is a mirror. He is going to look exactly like the talent around him. And listen, the Niners, when they had five all pros on offense last year, all playing at their apex, Brock Party looked excellent. This year, when the Niners don't have the worst skill position in the league, the least talent, it's just league average. He looks league average, which is why I think. I think it would be insane after this year to pay Brock Purdy.

I would certainly want to see him next year when, you know, what talent is going to be around him? Was this year the anomaly or was last year the anomaly? I think it is worth noting that in his last 16 games, he's 8 and 8, he has as many touchdowns as turnovers, his past, like 16 games, not a small sample, starting with that Ravens game last season, which ended his MVP. P candidacy, but Colin, I want to be kind of first to market with this idea and bounce it off you. If the Niners season continues to go the way it does and they end up with a top 10 pick, is it crazy to suggest that they could draft a quarterback?

Because I don't think it is. We saw Kyle Shanahan say, I have a quarterback that I went to an NFC championship game and a Super Bowl with. I think we can do better, and they gave up three first-round picks to try to go get that guy. Now, the guy was the wrong decision in Trey Lance, but the idea was he clearly thought, if we had a mobile run-threat quarterback what this offense could unlock with Chidor, Cam Word, Jalen Milrow, all being potential top-10 picks, if the Niners are sitting there, don't have to trade any draft capital to get one of those guys, and then almost assuredly could get a first round pick and then some for a team for Brock Purdy.

Is that something that would be crazy rather than them as an aging team and expensive team paying Brock Purdy $55 million a year? Who is Shanahan's primary rival in this league, Sean McVeigh? What did he do? So McVeys got an older pocket quarterback. Cam Ward would be a young, inexpensive. big arm mobile quarterback. How do you catch up to your rival? The Rams are stacked with young defensive talent. The Niners are old. So I can see Shanahan saying McVeigh's already got a ring. I'm not rebuilding on this team. Young dynamic quarterbacks shorten rebuilds. I mean, they change

things. Of course, because you can keep all the talent. And what I thought you were going to say about McVeigh is, what did McVeigh have the guts to do? Not with the last pick of the draft, but with the first pick of the draft, who had gone to a Super Bowl, had an unbelievable season, 2018, said, you know what? We can be better. Now, there's not a Matt Stafford out there for them, I understand that. But if this five and seven turns into six and 11 and the eighth pick of the draft, I think that possibility has to be open for them. Yep. No, I think, okay, I want to end with this. The Chiefs have the worst point differential for any 11 and one team ever.

Offensive tackle worries me. I do like Isaiah Pacheco returning. They're not as good defensively. Now, I will say, Burrell's got a bad defense, so does Lamar. I think the NFC actually at the top. Detroit and Philly are kind of impressive. Buffalo's good, but we don't know. You have to acknowledge the margins are like this.

They're like paper thin with this Chief's team, right? No, I don't have to acknowledge anything, and what I do have to do is force America to take, you know, go on a trip with me a year ago. Because everyone's trying to act like this year is different. You realize if the Chiefs lost every game on the rest of their schedule, they would finish 11 and 6. Last year, they actually did finish 11 and 6. Last year, Mahomes' numbers were worse, the offense was worse. They actually looked vulnerable, and then we saw what happened.

Everyone is trying to retcon scenarios where the past didn't actually happen. And where this season, they're like, well, they could have lost that game, they could have lost that game, but they didn't. And listen, unlike the Niners who dealt with significant injuries and fell apart, the Chiefs by the fourth game of the season were without wide receiver 1, wide receiver two, running back one, tight end three, four, and five. Their number two corner, they're now without their kicker. They have beaten four of the five playoff teams they played.

The one they didn't play, it's a two-point game with two minutes left before Josh makes that amazing play, credit to him. And everyone's like, oh, I'm worried about him. Mahomes had the worst six-game stretch of his career. They have dealt with crippling injuries. Those guys are coming back, and they're 11-1. They left tackle is a real concern, which is why they signed DJ Humphreys, who was a pro bowl or two years ago. He will be the starter this coming weekend when they play the Chargers.

I just, it is, this is what happened last season. Last season, the entire media, except for, you know, a select few of us, really just me, said, this is the year to get the Chiefs, this is the year they don't have the magic. Yeah. They then were underdogs in three straight playoff games, won the Super Bowl. Super Bowl. And the whole media in unison said, I will never make that mistake again. Now they're 11 and 1, and people are like, nah, they're not that good. They're making the exact same mistake. So I would ask you, because I know you have to go, but you're about to have

Tom on, because the Chiefs just broke a record. Most consecutive victories in one score games, 15. That record was held by the 0304 Patriots. Tom Brady, obviously, his first back-to-back Super Bowl, is only back-to-sup role. Ask him, hey, Tommy, were you guys just lucky, or maybe did you know how to win? And maybe is that having the best coaching quarterback thing pretty damn valuable? My guess is you'll say that, you know, they knew what they were doing, but maybe he'll say it was just luck. You know, it's a lot of, you know, it's an oblong ball and weird things happen. I don't think this will say.

I think winning close games is like winning at poker, which you're great at, which is there are sometimes the luck of the draw, but over the course of an extended amount of time on the table, skill and intelligence and efficiency wins. It's got a poker. You know, sometimes the fumble goes your way. Sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes the cards don't.

But we have to go. Sure. I've got 10 seconds. These other, like the lions are getting more injured. The chiefs are getting healthier. They're getting Pacheco back, getting Hollywood Brownback. They're best team in the league by a mile. People will agree with him.

Well, mile is a lot. Mile is a lot. The best team, by a mile. By a mile. Nick's gone. Brady's next hour two in LA. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers.

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