The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - Brandon Aiyuk is making a mistake

Episode Date: August 8, 2024

Colin explains why Brandon Aiyuk would be making a big mistake trying to force his way out of San Francisco He points out the major decision Dak Prescott is facing as he determines his future with the... Cowboys Quarterbacks run the NFL not wide receivers See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:12 First official week of the NFL preseason. Live in Los Angeles, it's the herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening, thanks for making us part of your day. Mark Sanchez stops by in one hour. We love when Mark stops by the show, breaking down stuff. He always brings tape and his brain power. So, J. Mack, the brand,
Starting point is 00:03:30 I. I mean, Niners thing is interesting. I'm going to start the show today with choices. Life is about choices, right? Fork in the road, you can go left, you can go right. We'll have choices on who we vote for, what team we go to, what company we work for, what we do with our kids. Life's about choices, right? So let's start today. Brandon I, Yook, according to stories, the Niners are just about fed up with Brandon I, Uke, and how he's acting at practice. So Brandon I, Yucke, We'll never play in his career if he leaves San Francisco with a better offensive coach. Mike Tomlin is not a better coach at getting receivers open. He'll never have more moderate weather, may never have a better roster, may never win 72% of his games.
Starting point is 00:04:19 He could go to worse weather, a tougher conference, a worse roster, shakier ownership, don't have the same head coach, double team now on every possession. It's a choice. San Francisco would likely pay him $23 million a year. He wants $26.5. Devonte Adams made that choice. From a Hall of Fame quarterback, continuity winning every Sunday to the Raiders. The opposite in all of them.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Tyreege Hill, remember when he mattered in January and February? Hey, but he got the bag. But he's irrelevant when it matters. now. He watches the games like all of us on television. San Francisco, in my opinion, is a top two or three place in the NFL for a receiver currently. Why? Well, the play action games always available because they always have a strong running game. So safeties can't cheat, linebackers can't cheat, always have a good running game. Also, you have a brilliant offensive coach who schemes people open. You ever watch the Rams and wonder, how the hell is Cooper Cup so wide open?
Starting point is 00:05:30 You ever watch the Niners and think, why's George Kittles so wide open? Is he a burner? That's what offensive coaches do. Defensive coaches don't. Also, let's be honest, the Niners and IUC is part of this, but last year the Steelers were 26th in the NFL. Now, think about this. 26th in the National Football League in big plays.
Starting point is 00:05:59 San Francisco was won. Do you think that's all just roster, or do you think the coaches have something to do with it? Also, offensive coaches, like McVeigh, Andy Reid, usually rebuild shaky offensive lines faster or running games faster. Has Tomlin figured out how to create a run game in the last five years? Because that's the rumor where he's going Pittsburgh. Also, with Kyle Shanahan, you often are playing in games? Where you lead late, you may take some reps off. You're going to get big guaranteed money in both, but it is built for wide receivers.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Scheming people open, brilliant head coach, not totally dependent on you, a big run game for play action. It is a choice. But hey, go make $5 million more and live in Cleveland and try to sell that $9 million mansion, ask LeBron. In San Francisco, you can sell that $8,000. million-dollar house in about 15 minutes. There's all choices. I don't begrudge either.
Starting point is 00:07:09 But is your agent telling you, and are the smart people around you telling you, you think it's a coincidence that Puka Nakua as a fifth round pick is a home run with Sean McVan the Rams or George Kittle and Jennings for the Niners as fifth and six-round picks are incredibly formidable? It's what offensive coaches do. offensive schemes do. Brandon Iyuk can make $4 million elsewhere. Go get the bag.
Starting point is 00:07:39 I think this is just about as good a place for a receiver to be. Yesterday Scott Pioly, five-time executive of the year in the NFL, talked about the IUC dilemma for the Niners. You have to look at your
Starting point is 00:07:54 roster often say, okay, how much are we going to put into this entire quarterback room, into this entire wide receiver room? And this becomes very complicated. Ico went way back to the early Patriot times. We had a different but similar situation like this with a wider seer that we loved by the name of Deion
Starting point is 00:08:10 Branch and he was coming off of a season where he won the Super Bowl MVP. He still had time left on his contract but he wanted to get paid. He wanted that second contract. We were in a place where we were paying some other people different but similar and it
Starting point is 00:08:26 unfortunately didn't work out. Oh, it did for the Patriots. They won multiple Super Bowls without Dion Branch. Dion, I think, went to maybe Seattle or ended up there, and it didn't work out the same. College football injects 25 wide receivers annually into the NFL, five or six, eight or nine stars annually. The Niners will be fine. Better this year with IUC, but probably fine by late this season or early next.
Starting point is 00:08:58 I don't necessarily guarantee any success for Iyuk. He could become Devonte Adams or Tyreek Hill. A little richer, but far less relevant when the games matter. So I saw The Athletic, a subscription model for sports riders. I subscribe to it and read it regularly. Mostly agree, today disagree. There's an article today. The headline is, can the Cowboys afford to pay DAC in the NFL's bro.
Starting point is 00:09:28 broken quarterback economy. And the premise of the article is, Tua, with the Miami Dolphins, and Jordan Love sign their mega deals, and Mahalm ranks only 11th in annual salary. That says the article is the problem. I disagree. There's a lot of different ways to make money, real estate, pensions, equity in business, stock market.
Starting point is 00:09:57 There's a lot of different ways. Same with quarterbacks. I think the more gifted quarterbacks who are really smart, take a little less, get surrounded by better players, win more, and then your Tom Brady, you retire, and a TV network gives you $30 million a year. Not because you're handsome, but because you won more. Go ask Drew Breeze. He took the bag for a couple of years in New Orleans with Sean Payton and lost. Then he took much less, restructured his deal to help the roster. won a Super Bowl, he's now iconic and won't have to worry about money the rest of his life.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Brady took cuts because he had confidence in himself and the organization to surround him with championship level players. Travis Kelsey and Mahomes have structured team-friendly deals. You think Taylor Swift is dating a Carolina Panther tight end? Mahomes makes over $45 million in Kansas City with endorsements. You think he makes that as a 500 quarterback or slightly better? Winning is the thing in football. In baseball, it's about lore and history.
Starting point is 00:11:10 You can't listen to sports radio without a Kofax or a Mickey Mantle reference. Basketball's artistic, aesthetic, and optics. For football is about winning. Win games. Talk later. Kirk Cousins has made his decision a choice to always take the most money. Okay. But he's not that relevant. Rich, but what's his post-football career if he wants one?
Starting point is 00:11:38 Tua, with his injury history, I totally understand Tua saying, hey, I'm not Josh Allen physically. I'm not that big and strong. I'm taking the money. That I get. But I think for a Manning or a breeze or a Brady or a Mahomes, I think the truly gifted guys know, I'll take a little less. I have a chance to win on an annual basis. A lot of cabbage. Again, there's a lot of different ways, and people make a lot of choices.
Starting point is 00:12:05 You and your family may make choices. You may say, hey, I'm willing to move to Philadelphia. I don't necessarily want to live in a big city or buy one, but I just got double the salary. Many people don't want to live in New York, but they go there for the job. We all make choices, right? A little less quality of life, a little more income, or vice versa. Quarterbacks can do the same. Dak Prescott's got a quote when talking about his contract negotiations.
Starting point is 00:12:30 He said, quote, I've said it before. I have an obligation to the NFL and other quarterbacks when it comes to getting paid. Tom Brady never talked about that. Tom Brady simply talked about winning Super Bowls. Dax making a choice and talking about things I don't give a crap about. Brady talked about stuff I do. Trophies. Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey, Drew Brees.
Starting point is 00:12:56 Lots of quarterbacks, Patrick Mahomes, Kelsey, they get the bigger picture. The long game. It's not the only game to play, though. I get to a take in the bag. Jalen hurts. Smaller quarterback. Saban moved off him, had his critics second round. He's probably like, give me mine.
Starting point is 00:13:15 I do not begrudge that. But the great quarterbacks who have the size, don't get hurt, have the confidence, generally, they don't have to be the highest paid quarterback. They'll get it later. They'll get it in shoes. They'll get it in endorsements. They'll get it in TV contracts. Because football's about winning.
Starting point is 00:13:40 It's not about talking about baseball cards in the 60s, romanticizing Bob Gibson, or sweet jumper, nice crossover, W's, and the better roster a good quarterback has, the more he wins. So I don't think Mahomes is losing a second of sleep. Go look at his trophy room. It's choices. All right, Jay Mack, I am all fired up today.
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Starting point is 00:19:00 Great Rachel News 4. So, Stefan Diggs left the Buffalo Bills, and there's been this sense over the last several years. True or not, that Mahalm's the best quarterback in the league, and I think that Josh Allen's the only quarterback physically that can do most of the stuff he can do. I think Matt Stafford's got the same arm talent, but is not as young, doesn't move as well.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Joe Burrell's very good, but he's hurt a lot. But the difference is, and this is, This is what separates Brady and Mahomes from a lot of other guys is they led the receivers. They were the offense regardless of teammates. Brady won Super Bowls pre-Moss, post-Moss. His best receiver, even his best tandem, arguably, Moss and Wes Welker, the best tandem he ever had? He won't get in Super Bowls. He was actually better pre-and-post.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Edelman and Gronk at the end, Deon Branch in the beginning. And so Josh Allen has. lost Stefan Diggs. Stefan Diggs is basically worth maybe half a win a year and half a point a game. So I was looking this morning at Josh Allen's career
Starting point is 00:20:08 with Stefan Diggs and without him. And without him, they average 19 a game, one game above 500, 15 and 14. Now, some of that is Josh Allen was a younger quarterback,
Starting point is 00:20:22 and as he developed, Staphawn Diggs was there for the ride. But there is no question that his passerating is sub-80 as Mahalms without Tyreek Hill won back-to-back Super Bowls. So if Josh Allen is the closest thing, many in the league don't think it's Josh Allen. They think it's Lamar or Joe Burrow. Burrell's gone to Arrowhead and won. But if Josh Allen is two in this league,
Starting point is 00:20:51 then you can't be dependent on a really, really, really, good receiver. Stefan Diggs is really, really good. He's not, to me, Devante Adams, Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, don't think he's quite as talented as Brandon Ayyuk. So this will be very interesting. There's a lot of drama.
Starting point is 00:21:10 He's worth maybe a half a point of game. I still think the bills win the division and win playoff games. But if you're the number one challenger for Patrick Mahomes, Stefan Diggs is a non-factor. This past year, the great quarterbacks win and get to Super Bowls with imperfect rosters. Burrell got to a Super Bowl with a bad offensive line. Bad. Not average.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Bad. Right now this morning, according to PFF, Josh Allen has the eight best offensive line. He's got a stable winning head coach, good front office, solid ownership, above average defense, an excellent young tight end, and a running back cook who looks like he could be an A guy. that's a Super Bowl roster if you're the guy that's at minimum getting to the AFC championship if you're the guy
Starting point is 00:22:01 but the standard's been set by Mahomes it doesn't matter who the receivers are it literally doesn't matter Sky Moore a couple of years ago was making plays in the Super Bowl Rishie Rice last year was making them this year it's going to be a rookie from the Big 12
Starting point is 00:22:16 so if you're the two there's no step back Stavon Diggs is good Brady, post-moss, stack trophies. Here is Josh asked if he'll miss him. Steph's a great player, and what he brought to this team was special. So, miss is, I don't know if I'd say miss. You know, he was a guy that was reliable.
Starting point is 00:22:45 You can look to. He's going to have the juice each and every day. I'm sure he's bringing it over there in Houston. So definitely, yeah, you can't say that you don't miss that. But I am very happy with what we got going on here and how hard the guys have been working. I think it was eight of the top ten receivers last year in the league. Four didn't make the playoffs. Four didn't win a playoff game.
Starting point is 00:23:04 It was thereabouts. Like the quarterback leads the team. Burrow had to use T. Higgins at one point in his career. Staffordes had Cooper Cup gone. Quarterback leads, not wide receivers. Yeah. Eight, the ten best receivers last year in the NFL, the big yardage guys. Four didn't make the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Four lost a playoff game. Stefan Diggs moved. Shouldn't make an impact. Should not make an impact. It really shouldn't. Tight end and running back in O-line, better than last year. Coach stable.
Starting point is 00:23:37 GM stable. Defense better than average. J-Mack with the news. No. No. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Let me offer one quick question on Alan.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Yeah. So having Stefan Diggs meant, Listen, it's a superstar receiver. You probably have to shade a safety over toward him. He's the focus of the defense. Can the focus of the defense now simply be Josh Allen? Easier to spy a great running dual threat quarterback? They now have legitimately a number one running back.
Starting point is 00:24:11 They have legitimately a top five tight end, Kincaid, and their receiving core is fine. I mean, the bottom line is you're not going to cheat. They got Dawson Knox and Kincaid. Be careful. about cheating your safeties. Those are above average tight ends. And again, I can go to the great quarterbacks. I mean, outside of Kelsey, who did not have a great
Starting point is 00:24:34 regular season last year, what did Mahomes have to work with? What did Lamar Jackson for all those years when he was winning that division and winning 75% of his games? Last year was the first year, Lamar Jackson, you and I went, oh, he's got good receivers. Now, Mark Andrews's been a great tie-in. He's had good O lines, decent run games. Last year was the first year you're like, oh, he's got help on the
Starting point is 00:24:54 I mean, the Ravens do almost everything right. Until last year, they weren't great at the wide receiver stuff. They were like the Patriots in the Dynasty. They couldn't get wide receiver right. I just, I remember the Jets matchups with the Bills. And basically, Sauce Gardner would erase Stefan Diggs. And that's how the Jets were able to hang so close with the Bills. Bill's offense doesn't go off against his Jets D.
Starting point is 00:25:14 I just, Shakir Coleman and Pertes Samuel. I'm not losing sleep at night if I'm a defensive coordinator over those guys. All right. Sorry. All right. Let's start with Andy Reid, and a lot of coaches like to sit their starters during the preseason, but not Mr. Reed. He expects everyone to play in the Chief's first preseason game against the Jags on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Colin, that means Mahomes, Kelsey, and the rest of the starters will be on the field in the first quarter preseason. What do you think about the old school tactics of Andy Reid? We talked about this yesterday. I think the old secure head coaches, if somebody gets. hurt, they're not losing their job. I think if you're the coach of Arizona, you know, like that guy in Arizona, they had a losing season. You cannot afford to have one of your top two or three players. If Harrison goes down, there's your season. So a lot of this, you know, years and years ago, I was talking to a football guy in the league at this company, very successful
Starting point is 00:26:16 person. And he said a lot of these GMs, they're GMing for their job. They want to win now, right instead of like building line play developing players if you've been in a place six years and you've only made the playoff once the owner's about to replace you will you shade your draft to high risk guys that could possibly help you now but not safer longer smarter bets that's why green bay you know if you look at teams that draft well pittsburgh and green bay they're always playing the long game there's no urgency that green bay just doesn't fire coaches the pittsburgh steelers don't coaches. So both organizations, it's not a coincidence. They both draft well because they drafts smart with the long game in mind. So, you know, my take on that is Andy Reid, it's the long game. His take is, I want to see these young rookies play. Let's get them live bullets. And I want Mahomes throwing to him, not our backup because Mahomes are going to be thrown to him in the regular season. It's funny. Iber Fluth, remember in a Bears opener, didn't play anybody. He, by the way, is like you said, on the hot seat, he cannot risk anybody going down.
Starting point is 00:27:22 But yeah, listen, I guess I don't have a huge problem with Reed not doing this. Just got to cross your fingers and hope, you know, Bruce Ariens. Bruce Ariens played guys. By the way, Belichick played guys. These guys are secure. They got the pension. They got the money.
Starting point is 00:27:38 They've got a ring. It's a different ball. I had a conversation about this once with Lane Kiffin when he was at USC. Younger coaches coached differently than older coaches. You know, coordinators coached different. in a game than a head coach. A coordinator, you'll see this sometimes in college where a special teams coach is trying to get a promotion. He's going for block punts every week. The coach is like, I don't need block puns, I need good coverage. So sometimes a coach within a staff,
Starting point is 00:28:07 Belichick has to be Josh. It's about winning games, not getting you the next head coaching opportunity in the NFL. Belichick always preached that. Jimmy Johnson always preached that. It's about winning. It's not about me building up your resume as a coordinator and assistant coach. So there's a lot of within the game in football. Yeah. Next up is Jalen Hertz and Nick Siriani. Talked a little bit about this yesterday, how things have been fractured between them, and they were during the 2023 season. Hertz has refuted some of the claims saying he trusts his head coach,
Starting point is 00:28:38 which that's not totally refuting, but nevertheless. Yesterday, Siriani made positive comments about his QB. Yeah, go through all the same processes that we go through after each year, and, you know, Jaylon and I are, and a, and, you know, a really good place. Every relationship that you have needs work with everybody, and we've always continued to try to work at that.
Starting point is 00:29:01 We'll see. So when they went to the Super Bowl, right? Jalen Hertz was almost the MVP. Shane Steichen was the bell of the ball, instantly got a head coaching job, and Siriani didn't get a lot of credit when they went to the Super Bowl. So what happens the following year last year?
Starting point is 00:29:18 Sirian is like, oh, I can control the offense. Now I know what I'm doing. And it almost feels like he's overreaching just a little bit. So I've always had this theory that if I inherited, I don't know anything at Microsoft, but if I inherited for a year, if you said, Colin, you run Microsoft, you would not notice how over my skis I was for the first six months. But the second half of the year, you'd be like, man, there's some bad decisions being made. The longer somebody that's over their skis is in a job, the worse it gets. So a lot of times, though, you know, Chip Kelly leaves Oregon, they give it to the assistant, and for the first year, you just take the head coach's momentum. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:01 So, what really worries me about Philly is at the beginning of last year, they were actually good because they took Siriani's sensibility, some of his play calling, his tempo. But the more Nick said, this is my team. It didn't just, it didn't just lose momentum. they're bad. So the longer Shane Steichen was gone. It would be one thing if they started 0 and 4 without Steichen, if you just reverse the order of the
Starting point is 00:30:30 winds and they finish strong, you'd be like, oh, Sireani, he had to kind of take over at the end of the year because the new OC wasn't as good. No, it's the opposite. They used the Stuyken momentum and after a while, when Shane's out of the building, it's your team, the decisions are yours
Starting point is 00:30:45 and the company arose. I always said this with Charlie Weiss. If you'd a reverse Charlie at Notre Dame, he'd still be there. Charlie started great. He used momentum, the big buildup, Charlie Weiss recruiting. The longer he was there, you saw his limitations as a recruiter and a personality. So it's order matters, the order in which you win. So, you know, when a great coordinator leaves and you're great in September,
Starting point is 00:31:11 let's check in in Thanksgiving when it's now you don't have any of that guy's momentum. I think Siriani's Eagle started 10 and 1 each of the last two years. Right? Out of the gate strong. Last year they crater at the end. This Kellynne Moore thing's interesting. Is Siriani aware enough to say, hey, you know what? I screwed it up last year by getting involved. He was pulling Hertz out of meetings with the OC to talk one-on-one with him about the offense. Like, you can't do that. So is he cool enough this year to say, hey, Kellan Moore, this is your show. I know you like pace, run the offense. You got Sequin, do your thing. I'm going to be a walk-around guy. Can he do that? I don't know. I don't know the answer. Two years ago, Kellyn Moore was
Starting point is 00:31:49 on fire and now it's like he's a guy. So I don't know. Yeah. Well, final story is Justin Fields continues to get most of the first team reps in camp while Russell Wilson nurses that calf injury for the Steelers. Fields said the increased workload has definitely made him better and he feels comfortable in the Steelers' offense. He also said this is the best he's felt entering any season of his young career. A lot of bests for Justin Fields out there, huh? He's very comfortable. Very comfortable. I think this is actually a really, really interesting story. It's young, it's youth versus veteran, rich versus a guy. It's cool versus a little cringy. These guys are literally opposites. One's big. One's got a big arm. One's Ohio State. One's
Starting point is 00:32:39 a college legend. One's top of the draft. The other's a third rounder. Dumped by a college coach. Pete Carroll. One's at the beginning of his career. One's near the end of his career. This thing is, the dynamics on this are fascinating. One's got the trophy. One's time to resurrect his career. They're opposite quarterbacks. One's a big, tall guy that moves well. One's a smaller guy, past his prime, beat up a little, doesn't move quite as well. I mean, it's, it's everything about these two is just almost opposite. So I'm fascinated to see what Tomlin likes. Well, this Tomlin situation, Colin, he's been in, a great coach in the league for a while, command of the locker room, players coach, right?
Starting point is 00:33:20 Could he lose the locker room with the wrong decision here at the beginning of the season? It's very interesting. Now, the reason I will defend Tomlin is even when a coach struggles, if you're doing something really well, like Matt Eberfluse, he got that defense humming. I know he knows. Lincoln Riley, offenses led the nation last two years with one pro. when I look at Mike Tomlin, that team plays, they may be the best underdog team in the league. He develops players. I mean, they don't miss on draft picks much. So, I mean, Mike, the players love him.
Starting point is 00:33:55 He motivates now. Now, do I think situationally, I think sometimes he's a little too Pete Carroll, a little too raw, raw for me, not enough details in certain spots. But Tomlin does a lot very well. my take is always been. If Mike could get the OC right, we wouldn't talk about it. Seriously. I mean, once Russell came to Seattle in his prime
Starting point is 00:34:19 and Pete didn't mess around with the offense and just did defense motivation and personnel, Seattle won Super Bowls or a Super Bowl. Colin, I just got to ask, like, just he say, hey, we're going to win with defense and we're going to run the football and keep a conservative. Russell Wilson's our guy. Because I don't know that that's going to go over well
Starting point is 00:34:36 with the Steelers' offense. So then the alternative is, hey, just Justin Fields is going to fling it all over the field. There's going to be ugly interceptions. Probably a couple regrettable fumbles. Ask yourself this. If they make a move for Brandon Ayuk, so I have Brandon Iuk and pickens, these guys want the ball. Those guys want the ball.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Who you think they're going to side with? They won't side with a young guy with a big arm. That Brandon Ayuk thing, that isn't for Russ. Who's got the bigger arm, Justin Fields? Yeah. Who's the playmaker? Young guys like playmakers. I mean, Lamar Jackson just got voted, best quarterback in the league,
Starting point is 00:35:12 and Tyree kill best player by player. Players like, they like Westbrook more than Steph. And Arthur Smith is the new offensive coordinator, right, coming over after time in Atlanta. Do you think Tomlin lets him have a major say in? Oh, I think Tomlin probably is giving him the offense. Real? First year, offensive coordinator with the team?
Starting point is 00:35:29 He's been a head coach. I know, but failed head coach. You have them, don't you have them the worst team in the league or something? Close, like six, seven wins. Oh, God. They're not winning six games. There is no way they're winning six games. Basement in the division.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Still not winning six games. Hey, pop another piece of that gum and get back to me on the Steelers. No kidding. My gum is very pro-stealers until December in that schedule. And I'm not chewing the gum more like in Pittsburgh. J-Mac with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping back.
Starting point is 00:36:05 The Hurd-Ly News. You guys, you do realize whenever you have the Olympics and all these NBA stars converge, you get little bromances and guys team up and play together? Paris is a city of love. Do we have a couple of teammates for Team USA, one young, one old, that are going to join forces? It's crazy what is happening. Keep your eye on this one.
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Starting point is 00:41:38 Didn't they win yesterday or two days ago? I think the first time in 21 games or something. That's their big rival. And they're going to win a game a month. So Team USA is playing Serbia. Brian Winhorst talking about Aunt Edwards and Kevin Durant. He said, guys, Aunt Edwards is trailing Durant like he's his big brother. literally aunt gets off the bus with Durant
Starting point is 00:42:05 when they warm up before practice Ant standing next to Durant Ant can't get enough of KD Hmm interesting You do realize When these great players play together at the Olympics There are often connection points later
Starting point is 00:42:25 I'll give you an example Of multiple Charles Barkley played with Elajon first at the Olympics LeBron Wade and Bosch, Redeemed team, became teammates. LeBron and Kevin Love, Durant and Kyrie Irving.
Starting point is 00:42:41 You remember that, don't you? Kevin Durant and Devin Booker. 2020 played together, became teammates. Well, you don't think they take numbers, make calls? First of all, Kevin Durant is always willing to move. He fits virtually, we talked about this yesterday. He fits everywhere. He's now 36.
Starting point is 00:43:01 it's not getting younger. In two years in Phoenix, they have already run through a couple of head coaches. So, Ant's got to be thinking, man, I have to carry this offense. I could sure use a guy who could drop 27, but doesn't need a lot of shots. Also, Ant has the ball in his hands.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Kevin Durant doesn't need the ball in his hands to score. He could take a little off the plate for Ant. Ant's also probably thinking, man, have you seen Rudy Gobert in these Olympics? Do you see Rudy go bear in the playoffs? Is that I want to tie my future to that? Do I want to tie my future to seeing if Carl Anthony Towns can stay out of foul trouble in the playoffs? I mean, I'm not, I mean, this is intentional.
Starting point is 00:43:45 This is purposeful. Ants no dummy. He looks around the league. He says, I need another guy. I needed Jalen Brown. I needed Jason Tatum. I need another guy. I mean, Yokic has Porter and Murray and Gordon.
Starting point is 00:44:00 you need another guy, somebody that can drop points. So the T-wolves are also offensively challenged. We know that. What are they really bad at? That mid-range game, they were 26 last year in Minnesota in mid-range jumpers. That's atrocious for a really good team. Who's the best mid-range big in the sport? Kevin Durant.
Starting point is 00:44:22 I'm just saying this to me looks like something. In the city of love, Paris, this looks like something. And you can go back to that board. I've got nine different examples, and we didn't even list all of them. I mean, it's just the ones we listed. These are the ones you've heard of. There is no question. LeBron D. Wade and Bosch playing at the Olympics.
Starting point is 00:44:43 There is no question that that started the conversations. Bosch was in Toronto, Wade in Miami. There is no question. LeBron and Kevin Love. Why did LeBron go back to Cleveland? Had no interest in Andrew Wiggins, the number one pick. why would he pick out Kevin Love? Because they had a relationship.
Starting point is 00:45:04 You don't think Durant and Booker playing together in 2020 and two years later of all the places he could go. When he was in Brooklyn, did any of us say, you know, he'd fit? I can't believe we didn't see this. I didn't see it. It was a logical place to go.
Starting point is 00:45:18 He was friends with Devin Booker. Again, a guard in Phoenix, Chris Paul was older, who could use a little offensive help. DeAndre Aiton wasn't helping him. Right? It's, oh, I can use a guy. These offensive players, I said this for years with Kobe.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Kobe wanted to be the man in L.A. He didn't want to be the only man. And sitting there thinking Mike Conley's not a big score. Carl Anthony Towns is, but he's always in foul trouble. Rudy Gobert doesn't score. He wants a 27 a point. And Kevin Durant doesn't need the ball in his hands. Anne's going to want the ball in his hands to create.
Starting point is 00:45:51 He's athletic. He's dynamic. KD's like, bro, I'm here. You get doubled. I'm right over here. So how do you, can you move off Carl Anthony, towns and get Durant? Or do you, or the wolves like, we're not chasing a 36-year-old Kevin Durant because he crushed a
Starting point is 00:46:05 Let me ask you this. Are you chasing wins? Do you, do you wake up? Minnesota right now is better than Phoenix. Do you wake up tomorrow morning? Remember, it's not like the Knicks who have a certain culture that I think Kevin Durant wouldn't be a perfect fit, Mikhail Bridges. Minnesota doesn't have that culture.
Starting point is 00:46:22 What they have is kind of a weird roster that's kind of big in spots and then lacking offensively. They're really actually a bad offensive team considering how far they went in the playoffs. I mean, like, Ant's the only guy you know you're getting points from. Carl Anthony Town gets in foul. Carl Anthony Towns commits more bad fouls than anybody in the league has for years. He's really talented. You know, to tie your future to Kat's judgment late in games.
Starting point is 00:46:44 So my take is, if you look, one of the advantages of Kevin Durant, and Nick Wright and I have talked about this, he may be the only player in league history, including LeBron and Jordan Magic Bird. he may be the only player in league history, he fits on every great team immediately. I mean, if you fit on the Warriors when they had two volume shooters, and he fit perfectly, he fit so perfectly in Golden State that Adam Silver, who knows the value of dynasties, thought it was unfair to the league. You could put him on the Bulls with Jordan.
Starting point is 00:47:15 He would have been a better Tony Koo-coach. You could put him on the Warriors with Stefan Clay. You could put him on any team. You can't put Michael Jordan on every team. Michael's going to take shots. You couldn't put Michael and Kobe on. the same team. I mean,
Starting point is 00:47:27 Kobe and Shaq wore each other out. Kevin Durant never wears anybody out. He just gets bored. To me, this one, they're now hanging out together. And generally, you know what you get?
Starting point is 00:47:40 You get an older player, LeBron, with an emerging young player like a Chris Bosch. I just worry about KD's age, man. Like, who's making a, you really think he's going to hold up
Starting point is 00:47:51 well here the next few years? He played a ton last year. Exactly. I mean, Anthony Davis played a tonne. Everybody's expecting him to get hurt. Not every player has to be a 401k. Can Kevin Durant give me two great ears? Yeah, I'm in. It's Minneapolis. The twins don't win titles. The golfers don't win titles. The Vikings don't win titles.
Starting point is 00:48:11 I'm crazy enough. I think they don't need, I mean, obviously they could use Kevin Durant. Without Durant, I still think the Timberwolves are the best team in the West right now. They can't. It's an offensive league. They don't have enough offense. And Conley is older. I mean, if it's the Olympics of the playoffs, at times he's just ineffective. Yeah, by the way, the benching story was super spicy for Gobert. And like he's running, he's like kind of a punching bag.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Everywhere he goes, people just like don't love Gobert. Like you said, everybody loves Anthony Edwards. Gobert's not really a vibe. That's another thing. Minnesota's good. They're well-coached. They're interestingly constructed, but they have a hole. They do not score easy jumpers.
Starting point is 00:48:52 Like, they're terrible at the mid-range game. Well, playoff basketball becomes much more situational. So mid-range jumpers, everybody kind of poohs them during the regular season. But when you get into playoff basketball and you need a bucket, nobody cares that it's a three. I need a bucket. Minnesota just couldn't get big buckets. And that's where Dallas, with Kyrie and Luca, they get buckets. They didn't know his get stops.
Starting point is 00:49:15 Luca didn't play defense, but they got buckets. And in the end, that's why Boston won the championship. They had five guys, eight guys if you count Horford off the bench. Seven, eight guys that can get a bucket. All ball handle, all pass. Minnesota's not talented enough offensively. Do you think Steph Curry is privately getting recruited by anybody at the Olympics? I don't think he works with Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:49:37 I think Durant does. No, no, I'm not talking to Minnesota. Because if you move off Ant, you'd still want some size. You could have Gobert, but you wouldn't want to get rid of Ant and get tiny because you are a great defensive team. And against a Yokic, you need to have size. against Anthony Davis, you're going to need some size. So I think the league's getting bigger, not smaller. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:49:59 I got to tell you, we bury all these stars really quickly, and they always have more years than we think. I remember Brett Farv going to the Jets, everybody's like, it's over. A year later, he's in Minnesota. He's like the MVP of the league. I mean, to the very end, Kurt Warner was great. He decided to retire. The very end, he was making plays.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Brady could have come back the following year and been a top five quarterback. It's weird because Curry, it seems like, is on the U.S. team, has the worst team now in the NBA of anybody on that team. Is that accurate? Yeah, that's fair. I mean, they didn't get Lowry marketing. He can't be traded.
Starting point is 00:50:29 No. They're headed toward like 38, 40 wins maybe? Yes. And at that point, that's why I worry. Does Curry then say, like, guys, what are we doing here? You struck out on Paul George. You struck out on marketing. You apparently made a run at LeBron.
Starting point is 00:50:41 Can we get anyone? Can we get someone? And does Curry start to ruffle feather? It seems out of character for him, but he doesn't want to end his career on like a 38-win golden state. I know, but he, really feels like he's the Warriors. He's jeter to the Yankees. He can't trade him to the twins.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Just like, D. Wade left Miami, went to Chicago. He's like, yeah, I'm going to head home. Like, some guys just feel like the, they're the DNA of a franchise. Like, I just, I can't, Steph is the Warriors. I cannot see him in an Orlando Magic jersey. I will not be able to unsee that. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite, on Humor Me with Robert Smygel and Friends,
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