The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - Caleb Williams is regressing

Episode Date: November 4, 2024

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Starting point is 00:03:17 Jim Harbaugh, the Charger stops by today. Colin Wright, Colin Wrong, top of hour number two. Well, you get to week 9, 10, 11, and the truth. comes out. You can't fool people. You see the better coaching. You see the better quarterback play. It's a reality check. There's a couple teams still out there that I think are, you know, playing on the edge like Philadelphia. But J. Mack, not good for two big, powerful, hopeful brands, the Cowboys and the Chicago Bears. Yeah, really bad for the Bears. Really bad. So I'm not the smartest guy in the world, but Matt Eber Fluse, the Bears,
Starting point is 00:03:57 the Bears head coach, since he's been in Chicago as the head coach, on the road, if the game has played on Sunday, the Bears are 0 and 18. That doesn't feel promising to me. That doesn't sound good. If it's the fallen winner, the Bears are on the road and it's a Sunday. They're 0.18. I mean, and here's what's worse. All that money spent on offense in the offseason.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Yesterday against Arizona. Arizona's a good team, not great, but a good team. 29 to 9, Arizona won. Third down efficiency, terrible. Yards per play, half of what Arizona got. Yards per pass,
Starting point is 00:04:36 about half of what Arizona got. And this was my big fear. That a young defensive coach with a losing record that hadn't proven himself who passed on Cliff Kingsbury, who coached Caleb Williams in college, wouldn't be able to elevate Caleb Williams.
Starting point is 00:04:54 and you're seeing that. Right now, Caleb Williams has regressed so badly. His passer rating is worse than Drake May and the same as Daniel Jones. He's just got better mobility than both. And the mistakes are just endless. I mean, come on. Fourth quarter, down by 20, you can't protect Caleb Williams. Get him out of the game.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Get him out of the game. What are you doing? They didn't. So again, a young defensive coach, at least get the defense. going, right? 26 seconds left in half. A third string running back peels off a 53-yard touchdown run. So they're starting to feel, and this is what happens with bad teams. What do they do well? New Orleans Saints fired their coach today, Dennis Allen. What do they do well? And you're looking at Chicago, and that's my question. I'm not sure what the plan is and what they can lay their feet at.
Starting point is 00:05:51 And here's what's really troubling. Bo Nicks lost you. yesterday. Denver didn't have the players to beat Baltimore and Baltimore. But Bo Nix is growing. Bo Nix looks like a franchise quarterback. His improvement, week one until now, is evident with Sean Peyton. Jaden Daniels. I mean, he's just smooth. He's just a pro. He's one of the top seven, eight quarterbacks right now in the league, it looks like, with Cliff Kingsbury, who the bear should have hired. Drake May yesterday, I know they lost, but you had to feel really good if you were a Patriot fan with Drake May. It's like, okay, we got our quarterback. There's going to be some turbulence, going to be some bumps.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Two-minute drill, though, regulation, you're like, I think this kid can play. That's what it looked like to me. So, Bo Nix, I see it. That's a franchise guy. Jaden Daniels, that's a franchise star. Drake May, with very little to work with. Yeah, I like to, I like Drake May. So, but, and Caleb Williams looks lost and is regressing badly.
Starting point is 00:06:52 So I was very skeptical on the Bears when they, had that three-game winning streak. It was bad teams. The Rams were down like six starters on offense. But this yesterday, there wasn't, I mean, you got eight minutes into that game. Forget it. And here's the other thing. They're now starting very poorly.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Like, well-coached teams generally. Not always, Rams started slowly yesterday, but generally well-coached teams, you know, first couple series looked like they have their act together. and there's another troubling part after the game Caleb Williams was acknowledging that they still weren't over the Hail Mary loss to Washington I think early on the week
Starting point is 00:07:38 I think we could have done better overall of bouncing back after that I know it's a tough loss it's tough regardless of you know who you are in the facility if you're out there making plays or if you're making decisions up top When you said be better, just move on quicker?
Starting point is 00:07:55 Yeah, we got to be better and move on quicker. We got to have that 21-hour period and from there. That wasn't even subtle. He's not even like slow playing it. That is a complete shot at the coaching staff. We got to get over it. Yeah, yeah, Dennis Allen fired today, defensive coach. Robert Sala, defensive coach, fired about a month.
Starting point is 00:08:22 month ago, if the bear's ownership wasn't so cheap, I think Matt Eberfluse, the last two weeks, they have looked completely disorganized. And our biggest fears that Caleb Williams, they passed on Cliff Kingsbury. I don't know why they did that. I'd heard Cliff wanted to be part of the Caleb Williams story. Passed on him. Didn't want to pay the money. You know who did?
Starting point is 00:08:49 Washington. Washington, their new owner. said, I'll pay for it. How's it working? Okay, Cowboys lost. Here's what's troubling, most of all. It's not just the record. But it was a different kind of loss.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Atlanta is a finesse team. So I thought, okay, DAC will be comfortable, right? Like, Gino Smith, hot knife through butter against Atlanta in Atlanta. Dallas wasn't overpowered. We've watched them get overpowered by the teams like the Lions or the Packers in the playoffs or the Ravens. We watch them get overpowered. They were just unprepared. And Dak Prescott's been in this league nine seasons.
Starting point is 00:09:27 All these illegal motion penalties, false starts in crucial situations, nine different penalties. I mean, in the third quarter, the Cowboys were going to go for it on a fourth and one. There's a penalty called too many players on the field. What are we doing? What are we doing? This wasn't getting overpowered. I thought Dallas was going to win this game. It was like we're not really very efficient at what we do.
Starting point is 00:09:56 For the record, since Mike McCarthy took over the Cowboys' head coach, always been an issue with Mike McCarthy teams, lead the NFL and penalties. Well, this team's not good enough to overcome that. This is not a team that can go in and get eight, nine, ten penalties a week. They beat themselves. Dallas out rushed Atlanta. They did. Out past Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:10:16 They had more total yards than Atlanta. They were plus one in turnovers. Atlanta is a finesse team. Quarterbacks are very comfortable. And you don't have to be a football expert. You're watching a coach throw a tablet, too many yellow flags, penalties in crucial situations. It's like Dallas won all, they won all the little battles.
Starting point is 00:10:36 More yards, more rushing, more passing, and they lost the war. So this, it just feels like to me Dallas right now is an unmade bed of a friend. franchise. The talent, the roster, the lack of leadership, and they're locked in. I mean, some teams are bad in this league, and you're like, well, they'll get the number one pick, they'll get a quarterback. I mean, somebody's going to get Schauder Sanders at Colorado. Maybe a Cam Ward from Miami in college. Somebody's going to get Sam Darnold in the market. Like, you can turn things around in this league. That's why it's so much more popular, one of the many reasons, than the NBA or hockey or baseball. I mean, you can go, you can swing it
Starting point is 00:11:18 from awful the Houston Texans to the playoffs in one year. You can do Washington, where you're a laughing stock of the league. Now you may win your division. You can do that in the NFL, but Dallas, because of what they're paying DAC, and because of Jerry Jones' ego and vanity and his unwillingness to let other sharp people in the building and make decisions over him, I think they're trapped. So you don't have to be a football expert. Just the penalties, the vibes around the Dallas Cowboys are absolutely terrible right now.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Jerry Jones, who's kind of gotten into a wandering stage, just talking in circles, was very emotional after the loss. I really regret this for all our Dallas Cowboy fans. I will tell you this, that I've been around. I've seen Michael Irvin tear up and cry when he couldn't lose anybody because he's just recovering from knee surgery. Yet his ass came back and led a team to three Super Bowls. I know you can be there if you're there.
Starting point is 00:12:14 That room's full of guys that can get it done. I believe about coaches and all. Well, the good news for Dallas, though, very hopeful. The facility tours are booked solid. So if you've ever wanted to watch a factory on fire, you go book the tours in Dallas. They have the third worst point differential in the NFC. Like, you know, I said before this season,
Starting point is 00:12:37 I said Philly and Washington are going to make the playoffs. Washington's going to be the surprise team. I said, Dallas, you're going to see a slight, regression with the Cowboys, and they may win 9 or 10, they won't make the playoffs. My bad, they may win six. It's a bad football team. It's a poorly run team. It's a, from a quarterback perspective, it's sort of mediocre. I mean, I saw Dak go off and scramble yesterday, and it was like he was laboring the entire time. Like, this is a bad team that is trapped behind an average-ish quarterback with a massive contract for the next four years, and I do not know how they dig their
Starting point is 00:13:14 way out of it. Colin Wright wrong and 45 minutes from now. Yeah, that was, again, you don't have to be a football expert. Dak at one point was caught saying on camera, we suck as he was on the sidelines. That's what the lip readers now, did they make their money doing
Starting point is 00:13:30 that? That's what they're saying. But yeah, yeah, yeah, it's bad. Yeah, that's it. Lip readers got it right. He's saying we blanking suck. They do. It's a bad football team. J. Mack had a winning weekend, Blazing 5. I'm not sure. We'll say this.
Starting point is 00:13:45 You called it on the Chargers. That may have been your favorite game of the weekend, and their coach, Jim Harbaugh, is stopping by the show today. Yeah, I'm excited for Harbaugh. You know, we'll talk during the break about Harbaugh and some hoops, shall we say. Jim Harbaugh is a community man. I'll just leave it at that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:01 But a very exciting weekend in the NFL, column. Like you said, at the outset, seven teams are now two and seven. There's a lot of garbage in this league right now. A lot of coaches about to get tossed. Free agency, not free agency, but the trade deadline is to, tomorrow, I believe? Yeah, there's going to be some sellers. Some. Here's a good question. Can Dallas
Starting point is 00:14:20 sell anything? Micah Parsons. But he's not playing. They don't have a lot of talent to sell. I know. They have a corner they could sell. They have Micah Parsons. If Michael was playing and being, you know, viable, I think you could move him. They need multiple draft picks. They have
Starting point is 00:14:36 to get in the first and second round, an elite running back. They've got to go get another receiver. They probably could use a good play caller as well. Fourth and one end around to CD land? No, that was a great moment. I'm glad you brought that up. So generally speaking, good football teams like Detroit, San Francisco, when you're on a fourth and one, you don't do deception.
Starting point is 00:14:57 No. You just give it to the guy. You give it, Philadelphia gives it to Saquan Barclay. Derek Henry in Baltimore. That's what the good teams do. The Cowboys on fourth and one are doing a jet sweep trying to fool a finesse defense. This defense is not, you know, it's not the chief. It's not the Niners.
Starting point is 00:15:16 It's not the young, you know, athletic rams or the best defenses. This is one of the softest defenses in the league, and the Cowboys on a fourth and one or go, okay, bring out the tricks. That tells you what they think of their own personnel. Like, they can't get a yard against an Atlanta team that has no pass rush. And the running back that the GM wanted, Ziciel Elliott, was left home because he's skipping out on meetings and being late and he's checked out on this awful team. Wow.
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Starting point is 00:19:59 Listen to PodMeets Twirled on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Well, um, the Philadelphia Eagles, are in a very unique spot in the NFL. They're the only team that consistently wins this year,
Starting point is 00:20:16 and you never really feel good about it. I mean, that doesn't exist in the NFL, right? You win, you're happy. O for three on two-point conversions, O for two on fourth down, passing on makeable field goals, constantly chasing points. They're like a day trader that's on a bit of a hot streak,
Starting point is 00:20:36 but you know it's not sustainable. The roster's great. Right. Devonte Smith, Sequin, Barclay, David Lee Rothen at jumping over people. I mean, young defense, all sorts of twitch and speed and length. This game was a blowout. It was 22-0. Jacksonville was reeling. We're not competing. I mean, I went and looked at time of possession. It was like 38 minutes, 21.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Third down efficiency. The Eagles were brilliant. They were over 50%. The Jags were terrible at 3 in 10. First down's dominant. You go look at the box score of this game, and it feels like it's 45 to 14. It's at 22-0. And all of a sudden you look up and Trevor Lawrence is sitting back in the pocket thrown to the end zone, and they're going to lead with about a minute and a half left if the ball is caught.
Starting point is 00:21:24 And that's Philadelphia. There is a way in this sport to coach a game, A, when you lead, and B, when you lead with a clearly better roster. Detroit did that yesterday. You just step on a team, you eat the clock, you don't take risks. That was Detroit against Green Bay, the better team. What Philadelphia is doing, it's just crazy, unnecessary risks when you have the better roster and a lead. They're starting to win in spite of their head coach.
Starting point is 00:21:57 And again, the dice are rolling their way because they're so absurdly talented. They have a great general manager, Howie Roseman. But this stuff doesn't last in the playoffs. thank God, Sequin Barclay's on the roster, and Jalen Hertz last several weeks, no mistakes, no reckless playing well, Devante Smith, and thank God for the Jags,
Starting point is 00:22:17 who just get in their own way. But every Eagles win, doesn't it feel like, even if you're an Eagles fan, they all come on asterisk. You're all like, yeah, we won, and that doesn't exist in the NFL. You just, you win? If you're a road team, you get in a plane, fly home,
Starting point is 00:22:33 you celebrate. If you're a home team and win. Well, we didn't play great. But, you know, it's a double you. We'll go back and stare at the film. Philadelphia is like, I mean, Nick Seriani, this is how good the roster is, is 40 and 19. That is, I think that's the best winning percentage of any active NFL coach right now. And three weeks ago, there was a feeling if they went on kind of a bad streak, he'd be fired.
Starting point is 00:23:02 So a lot of risks, unnecessary. You just got to know what you have. And when you have a roster that's this gifted, the Saquan Barclay theft from the New York Giants is insane. When Christian McCaffrey's not playing, that's the best running back in the sport. It is remarkable. I love watching Philadelphia play
Starting point is 00:23:22 because they make blowouts competitive. They make routes fascinating. Barclay is just an all-time talent. But here's Nick Sariani on his overly aggressive play on calling two-point conversions. Today it didn't work, but you know, that's the way it goes. That's the hat I have to wear, right?
Starting point is 00:23:40 You know, when we get a fourth down and we convert a fourth down, you know, we're not, you know, nothing's really sad. When we don't, you know, I understand that there's going to be questions. Yes, and when you have a much better team and a much better roster and you really know you're the superior team,
Starting point is 00:24:02 there's a way to cope. I mean, analytics are giving you little secrets on a way to coach situational football. And there's also the big macro feel like Detroit yesterday. We're better. We got a big lead. Green Bay's not playing great. Let's just get on a plane and get home and fly out of this wet, rainy weather. Philadelphia, that game should have never been remotely close.
Starting point is 00:24:30 J. Mack with the news. No, no, no, no. This is the Herd Line News. All right, Colin, we'll start with the breaking news out of New Orleans. About 90 minutes ago, the Saints announced that they have fired head coach Dennis Allen. After a weird loss to the Panthers, I mean, Colin, that game was so strange. It's not like the Saints turned the ball over. They had 175 more yards.
Starting point is 00:24:53 I only was half watching this game, but Carolina and Bryce Young came through late. No, Bryce Young made a couple of nice plays. Made a nice throw to the back of the end zone. But this was pretty predictable. Before the season, I predicted Dennis Allen would be the first coach fired. But Woody Johnson of the Jets, always screwing up the betting market. But I just don't think, I think he's over his head. I think he's a coordinator.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Defense coordinator for sure. Special teams coordinator, Darren Rizzy has been named the interim coach. Listen, it's all ugly with Allen. 26 and 53 as a head coach. This is the first time since 99 that the Saints have lost seven straight games. And then there's the weirdness with like Alvin Kamara after the game. I don't know if you heard it. He was like in Sydney way, oh, the team's confident.
Starting point is 00:25:35 We got this everybody. This guy's confident. This guy. And he like didn't mention the coach, which was pretty obvious that he was going to get. You had the former saint receiver. Michael Thomas. Okay, do you want to do a couple minutes on that real quick? So, first of all, why do we care what Michael Thomas says?
Starting point is 00:25:49 He's a retired NFL receiver. Hasn't played and he's just totally taking shots at Derrick Carr. Like out of pocket. He barely played with Derrick. Yeah, and he's a high maintenance wide receiver. I had somebody inside the organization told me two years. ago. He was the most difficult locker room personality that he had ever seen in the league in 30 years. It was so, and it wasn't like it was, it was just his personality's difficult, so I don't take a ton from it.
Starting point is 00:26:13 But it is, you know, when players start being willing to criticize an NFL coach, this is not the NBA where players have ultimate power. Players current former, there's also former players, usually no current players on a team. So when they're taking shots, they're hearing stuff from guys currently on their office. That's possible. Listen, we don't love Derek Carr as a quarterback. That being said, like, this idea that the Saints acquired him and that was such a bad move, like, what are your other options? There's not a lot of other good quarterbacks out there. And this idea that you can just draft a guy, plug him in, and you're going to be good. Like, I don't know. I don't think Derek Carr's the problem in New Orleans. Does that make sense? Yeah, I mean, Derek Carr's fine. You shouldn't go on a seven-game losing streak with Derek Carr as a quarterback. By the way, he missed a couple games. was in there and the kids in Fresno, Jake Hainer. It didn't look very good at it.
Starting point is 00:27:07 No. Like, this is not a good roster, and Dennis Allen was not a good coach. I don't know. I mean, I'm not a big Derek card defender, but anyways, let's move on to Lamar Jackson, Colin. Wow. Man, wow.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Baltimore just shredded Denver on Sunday. Lamar threw for 280 yards, three touchdowns, became the first player. And that's a good defense. Well, we'll get to that in a second. Became the first player in NFL history to have four games with a, perfect passer rating. He passed
Starting point is 00:27:34 Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Kurt Warner, Ben Rathusberger, who were the only other quarterbacks to do it three times. Colin, this puts Lamar in rarefied air, but this is on brand for him. He just dominates in the regular season, right? Well, I think he is, this
Starting point is 00:27:49 idea that he's not good from the pocket. Yeah, his first couple of years, he wasn't. I have been on this for three to four years. He is an elite pocket quarterback. And the truth is, because of his style, linebackers are forced to always be honest with him. So he forces defenses more than any quarterback in the league. He forces linebacker play to never cheat. You can't go man to man
Starting point is 00:28:14 against them. You can't cheat against him. So stylistically, he just changes the way you have to prepare. And he is really, he is, you got all that talent athletically and now he's mastered the pocket. He's something else. Yeah, Ravens are good. So about this Broncos defense. Baltimore average 7.3 yards per play. I watched, yeah. 13 and a half yards per pass. Yes. They're not good.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Okay, I know they slow down the jets in the rain and a bunch of other bad teams and bad quarterbacks. I don't want to use the word fraud. That's a little strong. Well, they are outkicking their personnel. Like right now, Denver is better coached than they are. Their roster would lead you to believe. And I think Bo Nix is absolutely getting better. He had a couple drives in the game.
Starting point is 00:29:05 I'm like, he's a player. He's a franchise quarterback. Not as slick as Jaden Daniels, but he can play. But this team is still under a heavy burden of Russell Wilson's contract and giving up all that draft capital to get Russell Wilson. So they need another six or seven draft picks and another free agent class. And then I think, I think by next year you can make, you can have a fair evaluation of Denver. They are just, basically, they're just moving the garbage off the pile now to get back to where they don't feel suffocated by Russell Wilson's contract.
Starting point is 00:29:37 It's like when you take over a company, right, you've got to purge all the bad contracts, the guys who are doubling up work. I think next year they could contend for a wild card spot, Denver. I like what I see. Bo Nix is, he looks solid. Did you see him moss that guy in the end zone? Yeah. He's a little special. No, he is, I'll tell you, he had a couple of runs.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Dude's athletic. Yeah. And likes to run. Sam Darnold last night Some guys like Tehran Probably more than they should But no, Bo Nex is a franchise quarterback I don't want to do the MVP stuff
Starting point is 00:30:07 But Lamar is now the favorite Oh, but sure, should be Well, Josh Allen's second Patrick Mahomes third I would put Sequin Barclay third Jared Goff is he Yeah, well although they don't ask him to do much But when he does stuff he's like perfect
Starting point is 00:30:21 I mean it's crazy He had 18 throw games Yeah well okay let's do Lions Final story is Detroit and registering another victory. So I made a lot about this as their first outdoor game of the season. Remember last week? And then it was the rain and like, oh, this is not indoor football weather.
Starting point is 00:30:37 And the Lions just came out and just destroyed the Packers. I mean, this was a dismemberment and showed that the Lions are, I think clearly the best team in the NFC. I think they're the best team in the NFL. Yeah, I think there's an argument. I mean, we thought bad weather was a liability for Detroit. It was a liability for Green Bay. Yeah, Jordan Love couldn't control the ball. The snaps.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Anyways, here's Jared Goff calling out the doubters, including myself after the post game. We're supposed to be the dome team who can't play outside. We're supposed to be the team that can only win one way. And I think we've shown a handful of times we can win multiple ways. We're camillians and whatever it takes to win in whatever way. That's what we're going to do. Yeah, that's the best roster right now. It's a younger version of San Francisco's roster.
Starting point is 00:31:24 We've been saying this for weeks. Chiefs, Lions, Super Bowl feels almost inevitable. The way Kansas City always is great in the big moments, and the way Detroit, frankly, doesn't even ask Jared Goff to do much. I mean, they're winning, not despite their quarterback, they're winning, and they basically haven't shifted into second gear for golf. They're asking him to throw like, yeah, we'll ask you 22 throws a game. I mean, they don't even need to sniff the 30 pass attempts.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Well, because they're blasting everybody. But that's a good number to bring up. So do you remember that Tampa Bay lost in week two? Jared Goff came out and threw the ball 55 times. Remember, we were like, what is this? Tampa had some injured defensive backs, so they were like, let's attack. They clearly realized that was a terrible idea. Jared Goff has not thrown the football more than 25 times in a game since then.
Starting point is 00:32:16 That's smart football. Ben Johnson? I don't even like, you know, there used to be a record with Kobe Bryant. you know, there would be like if he scored over 40, the Lakers actually didn't have a great record. And I don't know what Patrick Mahomes maybe breaks this, but I find most of the time when you ask a quarterback to throw over 45 times a game,
Starting point is 00:32:35 DAC is like 38. Dack's number's 38. If he throws over 38, he loses. If he throws like under 37 and below, before this year he would win. So I don't think quarterbacks were meant to be Superman. I think you ask Josh Allen and Lamar in moments to do that.
Starting point is 00:32:53 But there's a reason they got Derek Henry in Baltimore. There's a reason James Cook the running back in Buffalo's been so valuable. There's a reason the Chiefs miss Isaiah Pacheco. Even the great quarterback should be throwing about max, 34 to 36 times a game, max. Yeah. We didn't get to Detroit's defense, which looked okay. Okay, it's okay.
Starting point is 00:33:16 This week is, the biggest game is Lions and Texans on. I believe it's Sunday night football. Have you seen a line for that? It's in Houston. I would guess Detroit favored by four. I think it's four and a half, but that is a large number to be favored on the road against C.J. Stroud. Especially coming off a really emotional division game.
Starting point is 00:33:39 So do you want to lock in that for the Blazoned 5 this week? Get in front of that Detroit train? That's risky. Let me consider that. Under review. J. Mack with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by.
Starting point is 00:33:53 The Hurd Lie News. So I was watching my guy, Sam Darnold. You know the story. I thought he was going to be great. And then he wasn't. And unfortunately, my audience, you know, seems to almost root against me. Well, now Sam Darnal is great. He had three touchdown passes last night.
Starting point is 00:34:09 They beat the Colts. It is not a very good college quarterback draft class. I think Shadour Sanders at Colorado is really special. But Sam Darnold's going to be on the market. He'll be the number one for. agent quarterback because they got a kid J.J. McCarthy they like. But you got a little bit of everything with Sam last night. You got an ugly pick. You got a fumble. You got another pick. Super athletic. Made big throws. Kid was 28 to 34 with three touchdowns. Only four total
Starting point is 00:34:33 passes in the entire game from Sam Darnold. Somebody didn't catch. It was either the Colts or the Vikings. And you kind of got all of Sam Darnold. A really bad early pick. A fumble. And then that Jordan Addison play where he's running backwards. I mean, he's not maybe Lamar or Josh Allen, but he is one of the more athletic quarterbacks in a long time. I mean, Sam's really good. Three straight, 70% completion games, seven of his eight starts. He's had over 100 passer rating.
Starting point is 00:35:04 This is not a great offensive line. They lost their left tackle. It's not a team with a good run game. Aaron Jones, way past his prime. So there's no quarterbacks on the market. There's one, maybe two out of the college draft. So Sam Darnold is going to fetch the Vikings something. And, you know, or he's a free agent.
Starting point is 00:35:22 It's a one-year deal. So he'll go and make some money. I like Sam a lot. I think I've been validated. That's not what this show's about. But I think he's really, really, really good. And he's got excellent elite traits. He's big.
Starting point is 00:35:33 He's coachable. He moves well. He's got a good enough arm. They've sort of cleaned up his mechanics. But, and again, this is not the Vikings now because they're great left tackles out. They're not a great offensive line. PFF ranks them 22nd. They don't run the football with conviction like a Detroit does.
Starting point is 00:35:51 So Sam Darnold is making this team. It's a head coach quarterback story with some nice receivers. So I'm happy for Sam Darnold. Somebody's going to get a good quarterback. But this is the story of a quarterback who basically had a bunch of talent. Caleb Williams, are you watching? Wrong coach. went to bad cultures, and there's like three or four quarterbacks in my life, Elway, Mahomes,
Starting point is 00:36:21 maybe a, you know, a Josh Allen or a Lamar Jackson, who are probably talented enough to overcome a lot of roadblocks. And Sam Darnold's not, but I got to tell you, and I thought Chris Collinsworth was right on this, even after the bad pick, this is a team that has a lot of confidence in Darnold, and it's hard not to. I mean, it's, it's, I'm looking at those numbers, I'm watching him. he is an absolute playmaker. No question. This is what he looked like in college, and he didn't have a great college coach.
Starting point is 00:36:50 So when you bail on people, you've got to be careful because there were elite traits here, and Kevin O'Connell, a terrific young coach on his confidence with Sam. I'm sure Sam will be hard on himself about those two interceptions, but I'm going to stay aggressive with him
Starting point is 00:37:06 because I do think my confidence in him, which is genuine, it's real. It is, like I said, a winning edge for us moving forward. Yeah, fun stuff. Sam Darnold, way to go. Jim Harbaugh in a couple of hours from now, Colin Wright, Colin Wrong,
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Starting point is 00:38:03 Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment,
Starting point is 00:38:33 and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Hey, this is Robert from the Stuff to Blow Your Mind podcast.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Joe and I are both lifelong Star Wars fan, so we're celebrating May the 4th with a brand new week of fun, thought-provoking Star Wars-related episodes. Join us as we tackle science and culture topics from a galaxy far, far away, such as the biology of taun tons and wampas on the ice planet hot, or the practicality and corporate business sense of the Sith rule of two. Listen to stuff to blow your mind on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Deanna Maria Riva, actress, mother, lover, and a Gen X woman walking through life one hot flash and hormonal crying jag at a time. You ladies know what I mean. I'll bet you a Paramedapausal chin here you do. So let's talk about it.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Join me on my new podcast. How Hard Can It Be with the Adamaniarriva, where I call on my Gen X squads from Ohio to Hollywood as we navigate Midlife's most fantastic BS. All of a sudden, I'd had hanginess happening on my own. I was like, what the hell is that? I was married when I had her, so I didn't even consider how empty that nest was going to be.
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Starting point is 00:40:51 We're two men who were completely clueless to reality TV, who now have covered Dancing with the Stars, traitors, and we're gearing up for the season finale of Survivor. So yeah, now we're experts. I know we annoyed a lot of our listeners by our severe lack of survivor knowledge. That is the point of this show. I'm just going to remind you. I have watched some Survivor.
Starting point is 00:41:13 I obviously haven't watched enough. Did people not like it? Like what was just because we? Yeah. We'll be recapping the big conclusion in the 50th season from the final attempts at gameplay to the desperate pleas of finalists to a bunch of ha-hoo.
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Starting point is 00:41:56 UCLA, I watched Nebraska give Ohio State everything they could handle in Columbus. I think it was in Columbus. And then I watched UCLA hammer Nebraska. Good for UCLA. Like that was the surprise game of the weekend for me. So the Rams beat the Seahawks yesterday. It was weird. was not well officiated, both sides. Seahawks got hosed on a couple. Puka's ejection, I didn't think it was well officiated. I thought it got out of hand. But this was just about great coach, Sean McVeigh, great quarterback, Matt Stafford,
Starting point is 00:42:31 and a really good rookie safety for the L.A. Rams. They willed their way to win. Couldn't run the ball, ugly first half, special teams blunder, Puka gets ejected. There was a dozen reasons to lose this game. They couldn't run football, which really surprised me. But sometimes in the NFL, the answer is just as simple as, yeah, we have a great coach, great quarterback,
Starting point is 00:42:53 and one great defensive player making plays, and we're really good in the big moments. It had a Kansas City Chiefs field to it. We're in the very high leverage moments, like in the red zone, third and one, fourth and one, the Rams had the better coach, the Rams had the better quarterback, the Rams made fewer mistakes.
Starting point is 00:43:11 Now, I'm not saying, the Kansas City Chiefs. But the Chiefs are about, you know, one or two weapons, great quarterback, good old line, great coach, and one or two defensive players making a big play, and they win the big moments. They don't know it was win the entire game. And the Rams' first half was one of their worst halves of the season. They couldn't do anything right.
Starting point is 00:43:33 But over the course of the game, their red zone defense was A-plus. They stuffed them on a third and one and a fourth-and-one in overtime, and they were tremendous. on big moments. Even Matt Stafford. Matt Stafford was not great the entire game, but in overtime, he had a perfect passer rating. He was three for three. And according to Elias Sports, Matt Stafford's game winning touchdown, 13th career game winning pass in the final two minutes of the fourth quarter overtime. That broke a tie with Dan Marino. Second most ever since the NFL merger in 1970 with Tom Brady. So I've said this before. If you take, if you take Mahoney, Holmes out of the league.
Starting point is 00:44:14 And maybe Lamar and maybe Josh Allen. Who do you want? Minute 30, minute 40 left. High leverage situation. He didn't even have his number one receiver. Their offensive line still has injuries on the interior. They've got rookies and backups all over the interior of their offensive line. And here was Sean McVeigh on the gutty win.
Starting point is 00:44:36 What a unique, weird game that was. What a job by our group to be able to come away with the win. I was really proud of the way that we came out in the second half. They had all the momentum. We did a lot of things to beat ourselves. You're down 13 to 3, and we found a way to be able to get it tied up after a couple drives at peace. Like you guys have heard me say, there's no style points in this league. I think we want to do some things a lot cleaner.
Starting point is 00:44:57 There's going to be a lot of things that we can learn from. Yeah, and by the way, second draft in a row for the Rams, you can put that up. Their draft picks on defense, they have a safety from Tennessee that was undrafted. another interception. Kitchens, the kid from Miami, the safety, Jared verse, unblockable, second draft in a row. They got rid of Aaron Donald, and I told you, they're going to be fine up front. They have really concentrated the last two years on defense in the draft, and they have yet to miss on a defensive player. They've hit on all of their defensive players, and now they've got a safety out of Tennessee, who was undrafted, who's become a leader on the back end.
Starting point is 00:45:40 All right, Detroit Green Bay, I thought that was going to be really good, and it was almost boring. You know I like Green Bay, and I really like Jordan Love. But he looked young, they looked young, he is young, they are young, and they got humbled yesterday. It felt like Big Brother showing Little Brother how it's done. And Jordan Love is loose. I've always said he's more far than Rogers. He's just loose. And there were passes yesterday that should have never, ever,
Starting point is 00:46:10 left his hand. And you can make those mistakes against the Carolinas and maybe the Bears. You can't make them against Detroit. So the Packers were really sloppy, and they usually aren't. They had 10 penalties. They were one for four in the red zone. And, you know, and what was interesting is that Detroit, and I thought this was a real, I liked Green Bay in this game. Detroit, a dome team, finally going to play outside. I looked up the weather. The weather was going to be a mess. and the lions looked unfazed by it and the Packers looked like they'd never played in rain before. So it was 24 to 3 at one point and it felt worse.
Starting point is 00:46:50 They're not even asking Jared Goff to do much. That's how good Detroit is. So Green Bay had some big plays and some big moments, but they just, they were uneven, they were loose. And I've said this. I don't know if Green Bay feels like they're a Super Bowl team. I think in the NFL there are steps to the, this stuff. There are, like last year, Green Bay hits on all these young receivers and
Starting point is 00:47:13 tight ends. You're like, they're exciting. And you're like, they're kind of good. And then this year, it's like, they're still young and exciting, but I think they're really good. And maybe they could get to a conference championship. And then you'll watch yesterday, and you're like, yeah, yeah, they're young, they're loose, they're sloppy. Yeah, weather wasn't great, but Detroit handled it fine. And here's Dan Campbell after. We're built for this, man. And it doesn't matter. And just because we play indoors, it doesn't matter. I mean, we can play anywhere.
Starting point is 00:47:42 We can play in the snow and play in the rain, play in the mud. That's just us. And we're built to win. Yeah, it's Kirby Joseph with that pick, got him a big lead. J. Mack, be honest about it. I thought this was going to be a great game. I think we both thought Green Bay at home, underdog rival game. But it was, I mean, it was really quickly Detroit's like, we're to differ.
Starting point is 00:48:03 We're a year to two ahead of you. We've said this before. Niners have the best NFC roster or Philly. Detroit has the best NFC roster that's not quite established, but maybe now established. Like Amarang St. Brown
Starting point is 00:48:19 hasn't been around as long as just George Kiddler. A lot of the Niners great players are older, the Kiddles, and Christian McCaffrey and Trent Williams. I think Detroit's got, is San Francisco,
Starting point is 00:48:30 but in their prime, there were a couple of holes in this game when Brady was like, look at the size of these holes for Jemir Gibbs to run through. And I'm talking eight feet wide. I mean, Penae Sewell is pushing people out of the television picture.
Starting point is 00:48:47 They're just different. Detroit is just physically different than everybody else in the NFC North. So the only reason I pick Packers and then for this contest I do for Vegas, I backed off when I saw Jordan Love is like going to start. I'm like I didn't love that. And he would you agree he did not look close to 100%.
Starting point is 00:49:03 No, he just and I thought everything, gripping the ball, the weather, a slight limp, And I think sometimes when you're not 100% you're pressing, you're trying to play harder because you know you're not quite there. And it just unraveled fast. Did you think they should have considered going to Malik Willis? If I have Jordan Love, I'd go with him. But I don't think the quarterback would have mattered.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Yeah. I see, I'm all in on the floor. I think he's a great coach, one of the best six in the league. When I saw this weather, I was like, why don't they just turn this into a ground and pound game with Malik Willis? you got a good run game with Jacobs. The Detroit Lions defense is not outstanding, Colin. We agree on that, right? Yeah, it's not.
Starting point is 00:49:44 There's two teams in this league, Baltimore and Detroit. They're excellent. And in both instances, you don't trust the defense. And then there's a team right now, Kansas City, that is excellent at winning games. I totally trust their defense. And I also trust Mahomes and Candy Reid. So in this league right now, like yesterday I watched Buffalo in Miami. And my take is, I should have taken Miami.
Starting point is 00:50:06 my take is they're still part of me that doesn't trust Buffalo in a big spot like they won and I was like okay Tua ate them up Tua was almost perfect Yeah nothing deep down the field Well I mean all check down Charlie's stuff Well I mean you're moving
Starting point is 00:50:20 You're gonna give you that I'm fine We'll let you go But the bills were surprised I think by the Miami run game Yeah A Chan looked good But Miami is Miami good I saw a stat there four and ten In their last 14 games That's almost a full season of data Colin
Starting point is 00:50:33 I don't think they're I think they're situationally good. Two is playing. It's at home. It's a 500 team or worse. And that's about a third of the league. I thought that last weekend they lost Arizona. Arizona may be better than everybody to give them credit for.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Arizona, that game with Chicago wasn't close. Ever. I mean, early second. Is that about the Bears or Cardinals? Well, I think Arizona's pretty good. They got some pretty good players. Hour two next. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy,
Starting point is 00:51:03 Not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends, me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not. not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, this is Robert from the Stuff to Blow Your Mind podcast.
Starting point is 00:52:04 Joe and I are both lifelong Star Wars fan, so we're celebrating May the 4th with a brand new week of fun, thought-provoking Star Wars-related episodes. Join us as we tackle science and culture topics from a galaxy far, far away, such as the biology of tontons and wampas on the ice planet hot, or the practicality and corporate business sense of the Sith Rule of Two. Listen to Stuff to Blow Your Mind on the iHeart Radio app,
Starting point is 00:52:28 Apple Podcasts, or wherever, you get your podcast. On the Look Back at it podcast. From 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84 was big to me. I'm Sam Jay. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down,
Starting point is 00:52:42 and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. 84 was a wild year. It was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to Look Back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:53:02 A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me. Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media.
Starting point is 00:53:14 Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Cliford Show. This is a place for raw, unfills of conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to The Clivert Show on the I-Hard Radio app,
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