The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - College football rankings
Episode Date: November 6, 2024Colin points out the biggest issue the Cowboys have as their disappointing season looks to get back on track in a crowded NFC playoff race Thoughts on the college football rankingsSee omnystudio.com/l...istener for privacy information.
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It is a Wednesday.
A Tom Brady is stopping by Wednesday.
Live in Los Angeles.
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However, you may be listening or watching or whatever mood you may be in.
Thanks for making us part of your day.
Tom Brady in one hour from now.
Sean McVeigh of the Rams is stopping by our show.
Jim Harbaugh was here earlier.
And listen, this is always the strangest day of the year to host.
Every four years, I host a show after an election,
and half of my audience is having the time of their lives.
And half of my audience is depressed and somber and miserable.
It's always the strangest day to host a show.
and I texted my son this morning,
take a deep breath, you know,
hang around people that make you smile.
I felt like Mr. Rogers.
You know, it's just like, you know,
take a deep breath.
I root for the country is what I always root for.
I think 100% of our audience is excited
because we got Brady on the show today.
Come on, Tom Brady.
There you go.
What can get better than that?
You sound like Jim Harbaugh.
Followed by McVeigh.
Like, come on.
So I thought this was something.
So for years and years,
speaking of debates and political,
the Cowboys quarterback, Dak Prescott.
He's one of those players, and I don't know why,
because he's got a little bit of a milk-toast personality.
He's not polarizing.
He's not really outspoken.
He seems like a nice guy.
He's just not a controversial figure.
I mean, he just, but controversy finds him,
mostly because he's a Dallas Cowboy quarterback.
And, you know, Tony Romo was another guy.
Tony Romo laughs a lot on TV.
I think Tony Romo's funny.
I don't see Tony Romo is controversial.
Oh, but being a Dallas Cowboy quarterback,
It was Tony Romo was debated constantly.
By the way, I think Tony Romo was underrated.
I've always felt Vax a little bit overrated, but I mean, he's mostly, he's a B-plus quarterback.
But I thought this was interesting.
So Vic Fangio is the defensive coordinator of the Philadelphia Eagles.
One of the sharpest guys in the NFL.
He's seen every quarterback.
He's older.
He's been around the league forever.
And they asked him this week, what will it be like facing Cooper Rush, the backup quarterback, instead of Dak Prescott?
And his answer was, eh, won't change anything.
Excuse me?
I beg your jargon, what, hello?
It won't change anything?
I mean, if Patrick Mahomes was out, Carson Wentz was in,
think the Chiefs would look the same?
I mean, if Lamar Jackson was out and Josh Johnson was in,
you think the Ravens would be the same offense?
Even B to B plus quarterbacks,
if Baker Mayfield's out and Kyle Trask is in, Tampa can't score.
You think Kyle Trask is taking the chiefs to overtime on Monday night?
You think Kyle Trask is doing that?
Baker Mayfield did.
He's a BB plus quarterback.
Tua.
We don't even love Tua.
You don't even love Tua.
He was out, the backup.
They couldn't score.
Miami with a brilliant offensive coach with Tyreek Hill, Jalen Waddle, good running backs, couldn't score.
Yet when Dak leaves and Cooper Rush comes in, undrafted, 2017, undrafted, two-three-star athlete,
Central Michigan quarterback.
Not Michigan. Not Michigan State. Central Michigan.
Directional school.
Same offense.
And you'll wonder why there's those of us that say,
what are you doing paying back like Patrick Mahomes?
Cooper Rush has had six starts in Dallas.
He had a stinker once against Philadelphia.
So let's go to the five games of the six,
the five games that he won, because everybody has stinkers.
Mahomes has bad games.
In the five of six games, the five games he won,
his passer rating 96
touchdown to interception 5 to 1
those are dach's numbers
he's the backup
and there's no market for cooper rush
it's not like he's this hidden gem
that the trade
deadline people are
people are seeking
Cooper rush he's a backup quarterback
so this goes and really
proves at the core the film doesn't lie
that dack is living off
the affinity jerry jones
has for him. And he's living off
an early reputation based on
weapons when he wasn't paid very much.
Des and Amari Cooper
and Zeke in his prime and the Cowboys
top offensive line in the league for about
a five-year run. He's living off
that. I mean, Sean McVeigh moved off
Goff. Gough's better than Dak.
Alex Smith was
in Kansas City, Andy Reid moved off him.
He's certainly as good as Dak.
And Jerry Jones just
keeps filling up that bag for Dak
Prescott. But ultimately, Vic Fynn
who's seen every quarterback in this league for 15 years is like Dak Cooper Rush,
this is the same offense.
So when quarterbacks are young, and this is a cautionary tale for another team in the NFL,
when quarterbacks are young, they're cheap.
And when they're cheap, you can stockpile talent in their roster.
And then once you pay them, you have to get rid of those weapons.
Even a great quarterback like Joe Burrow can't do it alone.
Cincinnati doesn't have good enough players.
But keep your eye on San Francisco and Brock Purdy.
is a prime example.
San Francisco and Brock
pretty. Brock makes nothing.
The roster is loaded. So San Francisco,
take a look at Dallas.
Is that DAC is living off Jerry's
affinity for him. He's living off
those early weapons and reputation.
A defensive coordinator
who's seen every quarterback in this league for over
a decade. Cooper Rush and Dak, it'll be
the same offense. And it will, by the way.
So last
night, it was the
first one. Tom Brady again in
50 minutes. It was the first college football rankings came out. And so it's, you know, college football
is really become mostly with a college football playoff. It's going to become a two
conference sport, SEC and the Big Ten. It's going to look much more like, because this is what
the TV partners want. It's going to look like the NFL, AFC, NFC. I mean, you'll have the Big 12,
the ACC, the Pac-12's already dissolved, but it's going to be Big 12, Big Ten. Big Ten. It's going to be Big Ten.
and the SEC.
And there is this thing, I would call it, the illusion of inclusion.
So everybody feels great last night.
The rankings come out for the 12-team playoff.
Everybody said, look at Indiana.
Awesome.
That is, oh, BYU, the little guy.
Oh, is awesome.
Boise State.
I love it.
Boise State.
You really think Boise State or Indiana.
Today, Indiana would have to open up at Tennessee
and then play neutral field games against Ohio State, Georgia, Texas.
We really think Indiana is going to run through that?
But the one thing I looked at, and I don't care what the rankings say,
Oregon's the best team I've seen in the country,
and every time I see Oregon, the more impressed I am with him.
But I thought it was interesting that I've watched the same games the committee has,
and are they trying to be PC or whatever their analytics say, Ohio State 2, Georgia 3?
If they played tomorrow, who would you take?
I would take Georgia all day long over Ohio State.
Better coach, better quarterback, better defense, better conference.
And Georgia's quarterback's not even playing well, but he'll get drafted.
So, I mean, I looked at that thing yesterday.
Penn State is six.
You really think they can play for the Natty?
So you can create a 30-team playoff.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter that Indiana is 9-0 and BYU is 8-0.
They don't have enough NFL bodies.
And football's different than basketball.
and even in bat because there's so much violence that you guys hurt every game so if an indiana or a b yu or a boise state has to play three or four games in a row against these high-end teams it's fall apart physically even in basketball where you don't have that level of violence if you have one great player i remember covering david robinson when he played at navy like one great player even in college basketball it always ends up down to the lead eight one seeds two seeds three sees four seeds you
and maybe one, you know, 11 or 12 dark horse seat.
So I see Miami here.
Everybody's excited about Miami.
Miami is a vote for Cam Ward and nostalgia.
You're thinking Miami, Michael Irvin, Miami, that's not what they are.
You take Cam Ward off this team.
They're a five, six-win team.
They almost lost a Cal.
The four teams at the top of this, Georgia, Oregon, Texas, Ohio State, those were the preseason
one, two, three, four.
I forget the order, but preseason one, two, three, four.
So, but I would say this.
When I looked at this, my first take is, who would really trust Ohio State over Georgia if they play tomorrow?
How could you?
Georgia wins those big games.
Ohio State did.
What's the biggest game this year for Georgia, the Texas game?
Backed against the wall, on the road.
Humiliated Texas.
You think Ohio State's going to Austin and humiliating Texas?
No, they're not.
You think Georgia's going to Oregon and giving up 35 points?
I don't.
So remember, half of Ohio State's fans want the coach fired.
Their quarterback's arguably the weakest of the four biggest programs right now, top four in the country.
And they end up short in all these big games.
So as I watched that, I thought, I don't know who could watch Georgia beat Texas.
How could you watch that game?
I understand Oregon's undefeated.
But of all the one-lost teams, how could you watch that game and have done?
Georgia below Ohio State.
It feels, you know, the committee is trying to make sure,
the analytic, watch the games.
Ohio State's not going to Austin and doing that to Texas.
I mean, they went to Penn State and struggle with a Penn State team
that's average at quarterback, below average at wide receiver,
and didn't play particularly well.
I mean, that you had fans at Penn State yelled at the coach, James Franklin.
He had to confront one of them.
All right, Jay.
Jack. We got some stuff today.
You know, I haven't talked to Tom Brady in about
six weeks, six, seven,
maybe eight weeks.
Didn't he come on right before the season?
He came on right before the season. He was great,
by the way.
They've been ten weeks.
So Tom's going to make
another visit.
And I'm interested to ask him about Kansas City
because Kansas City is eight
their first time they've ever been eight and no,
but it still feels like they're kind of trying
to figure out what the heck they are.
and Tom was on a couple of great teams.
A couple.
But you think when you're eight and no, you think you got your act together.
But I don't think, I think Kansas City is Trill really trying to figure out what to do with Xavier Worthy.
They got backup running backs.
They're a little dinged up on defense.
I don't think Kansas City knows what they are yet.
You remember when the Brady Moss team was undefeated and everybody thought, oh, they could use a loss before the playoffs and they didn't have a loss.
A little pressure.
I wonder if that applies to the Chief's Bill's game in two weeks.
Yes.
Like, because if the bills don't knock them off, you look at the schedule, and Kansas City is probably going to be 14 to know.
I will say this.
If you look at how the Chargers play, you can make an argument.
They are kind of built.
They're a little Kansas City where they're a light at wide receiver, great defense, great head coach, excellent quarterback, and can run the ball.
I think the Chargers feel like they're already, their model, it would have been weird to say this.
a year ago with Brandon Staley.
But if you look at the Chargers today,
they are the Chiefs.
The strength is the head coach,
the quarterback,
maybe one weapon you love,
great pass rush,
excellent defensive personnel,
a lot of it young.
So they're a poor man's chiefs, right?
But I don't think they're that poor.
Homeless man's chiefs?
No, I think they're pretty darn close.
If they go to Arrowhead and win,
you're quite the sage.
Tampa Bay.
Tampa Bay went to Arrowhead.
head this week without Chris Godwin and Mike Evans.
And there were moments in that game.
I thought, I mean, when was Tampa's last drive with Baker, you're like, you got a chance
to go in for two and win this game.
If Bowls goes for two and they get it, we're not even talking about the season being
undefeating.
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One of the teams in the league that people thought may make a move at the trade deadline didn't necessarily have to,
but they haven't a very, very aggressive general manager.
Philadelphia Eagles, Howie Roseman, did not make a move.
There's been other trading deadlines.
He's made a move.
He's probably the most aggressive GM in the league with Brett Vich at Kansas City.
They make a lot of moves.
We don't trust the coach.
But Philadelphia is kind of okay with what they've got.
And it's interesting because Dan Campbell's a coach, his opening press conference.
A lot of us looked and went, wow, biting kneecaps.
I don't know.
But over time, Dan Campbell has.
solidified himself well before this year, last year, the year before, as a culture creator,
beloved in the locker room, very, very strong alpha leader, it works.
Siriani got hired the same year.
His opening press conference was brutal, didn't have a lot of allies in the football
community that said he was ready for it.
And frankly, a month ago, we didn't know if he was going to make it to Thanksgiving.
So it's always felt wobbly and wonky in Philadelphia.
you. But if you do look, there are exceptions to everything. Can Nick Sariani win a Super Bowl?
If you go to the last 12 coaches that have won a Super Bowl, you got Andy Reed multiple times,
Belichick multiple times, you got Bruce Ariens, you got Pete Carroll, John Harbaugh, Sean McVeigh,
and then you got Doug Peterson. Well, Doug Peterson's about to get fired in Jacksonville,
and Doug Peterson not only won, he won a Super Bowl over Brady and Belichick with Nick
Foles. So we won with a backup.
And I think from the outside, people like me look at Philadelphia and think,
I don't know. I don't know if this is going to work. I think people inside the building in
Philadelphia, like Jeffrey Lurie, the owner and Howie Roseman, inside the building are like,
work. Jalen hurts a lot better than Nick Foles.
And we think Nick Seriani is better than Doug Peterson. I mean, if you go back to that year,
they won with Doug Peterson. The roster was great. The quarterback got hot.
they got healthy at the right time,
and Doug Peterson stayed out of the way.
And they got a little bit of a break
because Minnesota was using the backup in the playoffs.
Case Keenham, Aaron Rogers got hurt that year.
So eight of the 10, you know, 10 of the 12 or 11 of the 12 coaches,
I don't know how we even brand Gary Kubiak, solid.
Manning loved him, won a Super Bowl.
I don't know.
We don't consider him bad, good.
He's just like a good coach.
He's solid B, B plus coach.
But I think Doug Peterson, if you're a Philadelphia fan,
I think you look at that and think, well,
is Nick Seriani, younger version of Doug Peterson with a much better quarterback,
and I think that's fair.
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Their takeaway is we did it before, and we like this coach,
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Thursday night, Bengals versus the Ravens, a phenomenal game.
The last time they met, Burrow went off.
He had 392 yards, five touchdowns, but they lost.
They blew a lead late.
Joe Burroughs sideline demeanor has caught people's attention, Colin.
In the post game this week, he talked about how there isn't much to be happy about unless the team achieves perfection.
Yesterday, he spoke to how his nonverbal communication is part of his growth as a leader.
Okay.
You know, maybe I could have not let my emotions show quite as much, but it's also something that,
I've tried to do more, and I know people in the locker room have wanted me to do a little more,
whether good or bad, but you can't, I don't think, at least I can't show my emotion positively,
and then when things don't go well, not let that be known as well.
He's being authentic.
It's okay.
It's not a habit or a pattern.
Aaron Rogers, it can be a little bit of a habit, throws a pick, gets moody.
Cutler I always felt. Well, wait a minute. There's difference between Rogers Moody and Burrow just not smiling. Like, look at it. Does that look like somebody who's having fun? No, I think he... But that's his look all the time on the sidelines this season. He's the only great quarterback in the league that has a second-tier roster, and I think he knows it. And I think he knows that every time he goes to the sideline and watches an offense march down the field against the Bengals who got rid of defensive players and Joe Mixin before they really had to. It's a cheapest ownership in the league. And I think he knows it. You look at it. You look at it. You look at it. You look at the
at all the good quarterbacks in the league. We noted this yesterday. All the good quarterbacks
in the league. Jalen Hertz, good roster. Stafford's Young, but he's got some Kyron Williams,
Cooper Cup, Pooka Nukua. He's got like, he's got Havenstein the right tackle. You look at
Goff, Mahomes, Lamar, Josh, every great quarterback in this league. Herbert, that's a real,
that's a roster. They could use another receiver with a charge of it, but that's a roster.
I think Joe Burrow knows it's me and Jamar Chase and a cheap ownership group. They don't
take any risks in free agency. They've never
taken big risks during the draft. They're the opposite
of the Philadelphia Eagles. They keep
coaches too long. They hold
on to people too long. There's been speculation.
They wouldn't fire Zach Taylor.
I don't think he should be fired. But for those
who do, I would say this.
They're not going to fire a coach and then
pay two coaches at the same time.
Cincinnati won't do that.
They'll never have dead coach cap money.
That's not what they do. So
they're one out of the wild card
spot. But the problem is if you lose to the Raven
Thursday. They're going to. You got swept by Baltimore, so just forget about the division.
That's not happening. And then you're like, behind the eight ball here with a down-to-stretch schedule
that is favorable, right? That Chargers game, I think, will be difficult. It'll be a good one.
But like, I don't, Pittsburgh, we'll see if Jack Prescott's back for the Dallas game.
Like, that's not a brutal schedule. It's just not. I don't know it. But it's a brutal defense.
And I don't know if this team is good, Colin. How many games are they lost at home for?
Yeah, they're just not. Cincinnati is, it's, it's, I think.
there's, listen, when Aaron would get Moody in Green Bay, that's on Aaron because the coach and
the roster and the organization was always excellent. Green Bay drafts and develop as well as anybody.
When Jay Cutler was Moody in Chicago, I didn't blame him. When Joe Burroughs Moody here, I don't
blame him. When you're a really talented guy and your coworkers aren't good enough and the
commitment and the finances from ownership aren't good enough, you look like Joe Burrow.
So Brady is coming on the show today. I'm curious. I don't know. I think this is a good question.
Maybe you don't.
But like, Tom, when things were not going good and you were unhappy, did you go to management and be like, guys, we got to figure that ass out what's going on?
Because I wonder if Burroughs should do that.
Yeah, but the difference is Robert Kraft has never been cheap.
He's been wrong, but he's never been cheap.
But would Brady go to him?
Because I don't know that that's in Burrough's DNA to go.
No, I think it is.
We saw Burrow having after a loss this year.
Was it Monday night or something?
He went and marched down and talked to the car.
I think Burrow is a no BS, bottom line Midwest kid.
Up front, authentic kid.
I don't think there's any BS with Joe Burrow.
I think Tom Brady did go.
In fact, the book, the two, three, four, five books I've read about Kraft, Belichick Brady,
Tom went to Kraft on multiple occasions and voiced some concerns about the treatment from Bill.
And Bill was a legend.
He had no problem doing that.
I would love to find out if Burroughs done that or plans on doing it.
I mean, the problem is it's different if you don't like the coach.
But the owner, everybody's a puppet to the owner.
and the Brown family is the cheapest organization in the league.
So what are you going to go to?
The owner?
I mean, go look at the Browns.
Go look at the Bengals' draft history.
They don't make deals.
They're hyper.
I mean, Cincinnati's a conservative play.
They're hyper conservative.
If this were the NBA with Joe Burrow,
we would be speculating where he's going to demand a trade to.
Now, I don't see that happening in Cincinnati,
but what if he goes to the owner?
And the owner's like, yeah, we're not spending.
The best quarterback they've ever had in Cincinnati's Carson Palmer.
Now, Boomer Asiason was good.
I mean, there's been other good quarterbacks.
Carson Palmer said, get me out of here.
Like, I'm out.
Why?
Ownership, lack of commitment.
Would Burrow do that, you think?
I would hope he does.
I don't want good players on crap teens and bats.
Either do I.
If Burrow had never had an injury, I think somebody would go, we'll give you six number one picks.
His injuries a little bit scare a little people off a little.
I would have no problem.
If I was a general manager, I would give up four first rounders to get.
get Burrow. I wouldn't even think, as long as I didn't have to also rebuild my own line,
because most of the time you get your best tackles in the first round, the 20 best left tackles
that have ever played like 18 or first round guys. So if I had my left tackle, you know,
because I have to pay Burrow a lot, and he's got to be protected up front. I would, again,
I would have no problem giving up four first for Joe Burrow. As long as I knew I could protect him
because you're giving up so many picks to get him, you'd have to hit on third. You'd have to hit on
third round guards and fifth round tackles. You don't want that. Yeah. All right, let's move on to the
Eagles, Colin. They've won four straight. A lot of the credit goes to Sequin Barclay. He had a buck 59 last week
against the bad Jags defense. Now he heads to Dallas and we know they can't stop the run. Dallas,
however, is hoping Micah Parsons returns to practice this week. In the meantime, he spoke highly of his
former Penn State teammate. For Seekwon, this is a blessing in disguise just off the strength of
people are seeing what you're capable of when people appreciate you.
The Giants did not appreciate him.
And now the rest of the league is facing the consequences of the giant stupidity.
I mean, what more can you say?
The guy's been dynamic.
He's been worse than money and more.
Yeah, it is amazing that you would let your best employee go to your rival.
It's remarkable to me.
You think these organizations are well-run.
You know, they're not smart people.
and it just would never let that.
I mean, would you let Chris Jones in his prime go to the Chargers if you're the chiefs?
Do you remember the conversation we had about how running backs, there was so much pushback.
Don't draft running backs.
Don't pay.
And we were like, wait a minute, wait a minute.
You got half the league in tight ends are making more money than Sequin Barclay.
That is definitely a mistake.
Okay.
So when the media, and they're prone to do this, this is what the media does with athletes.
They want to get them all the bag.
So when the media overreacted to the scarcity of running back contracts,
on this show, I said, what are you talking about?
Guards haven't made money forever.
You know, offball linebackers don't make any money.
Safeties don't make any money.
Tight end.
Shannon Sharp, Tony Gonzalez, these Antonio Gates, they're all, Kelsey, they're all underpaid.
My whole life, tight ends.
And there was this whole thing about running backs.
And I said, take a deep breath.
They still have value.
look at what has happened since the media overreacted.
Derek Henry, not only got paid,
but Derek Henry has become the centerpiece of the AFC's best team, arguably.
J.K. Dobbins, Harbaugh, J.K. Dobbins, Herbert, that's the story.
And Sequin, for sure.
I would put him third of the MVP voting.
The media overreacts.
Whenever players don't get paid, there's an overreact.
direction, running backs will always have value in this league.
Now, there are things that are cyclical NBA small ball centers.
Running backs have value because running backs ultimately make the job of your star quarterback
easier.
I mean, let's be honest.
When Pacheco comes back for Kansas City, even with Kareem Hunt playing well, it's more
protective, but Mahomes going to have a star running back to compel off a 40-yard or at any
time.
Remember the Bears had, I had to look this up.
Montgomery, their running back,
They had him, and they were like, man, we're going to move off him.
He goes to the Lions behind a good offensive line.
13 touchdowns last year.
They have an amazing ground game with him and Gibbs.
Like, you can't make blanket statements like people are saying,
don't pay running backs.
That does not apply.
Sequin, we mentioned it, was going to have a Christian McCaffrey-type impact on the Eagles.
McCaffrey was huge going from the Panthers to the Niners.
I think Seekwan's been similar to that for the Eagles.
He's been right there with Derek Henry in terms of numbers this year.
In terms of impressive.
I mean, Derek Henry and Seacuan Barclay are the two.
most talked about players in the league that aren't
quarterbacks. And it was a year
ago, the media was just lamenting
the future of running
backs. It's like, guys, they're okay.
They're all good. They've had Jonathan
Taylor of Indianapolis.
They've always had, I mean, look at the Texans.
When Joe Mixon plays, they win. When he doesn't,
they lose. They've always had value.
Final story, Colin, a little hot take, happy hour
action here. So Josh Allen's got
the bills of seven and two. First place to the
AFC East. They're going to win the division.
As you predicted, I had the Jets.
Allen's been great.
Three touchdowns last week against the dolphins.
Two of them came in the red zone, right?
So former Bill's coach, Rex Ryan, comes out and says,
Josh Allen is the best red zone quarterback of all time.
And, you know, I guess that's where we are in the media.
Now, Josh Allen's numbers in the red zone have been phenomenal since 2020.
Is he wrong?
Well, I think Rex Ryan may be right.
Well, okay, so you can't just, like, you couldn't punch into Google.
Give me the best Red Zone quarterback of all time.
There isn't an answer for that.
But Lamar Jackson certainly has to be up there.
Cam Newton in his prime was a massive Red Zone threat.
Basically anybody who's dual threat.
Yeah, I would say Josh Allen's certainly in the discussion.
It's in the discussion.
Yeah, I don't, I mean, yeah, that doesn't.
Do you see Rex Ryan said he'd take the Jets job off or did you see that?
That was on a show.
I think Dan Patrick.
Can we get Mark Sanchez's comments on that?
He'd spend some time with Rex.
Come on, listen, Josh Allen is phenomenal in the Red Zone.
We know that.
He's great.
Since 2020, he's number one in pass yards, passing touchdowns, total touchdowns.
Like, the guy's awesome in the Red So we get that.
But the best of all time?
I think he's in a short list.
Is it worth even saying?
Yeah, I think it is.
We're talking about it.
And it was on an internet network.
Well, I was going to be a little more harsh, but I was told, hey, hey.
Settled down.
Yeah, I don't want to go after him like I went after Boomer Osceyson, which got you all work.
And Matt Dogg Rousseau and some of these meatballs on East Coast.
Come on.
J. Mack with the news.
Well, that's the news.
And thanks for stopping by.
The Heard Line News.
So I saw this yesterday, the trade deadline.
I'm not sure how many people paid attention to the NFL trade deadline.
There were something else going on.
But the commanders went and got Marshawn Latimore, a really good corner.
Now, I had texted a couple of GMs in the league yesterday.
Latimore's a great player.
He's not always available.
So he misses a lot of work, hamstring.
But I like the move.
I think it's worth the risk.
But he's hurt a lot.
But I was thinking about this.
The Washington commanders are why the NFL is king.
One of the reasons.
It's the League of Hope.
You could not do what they do in the NBA, in the NHL or baseball.
Go from literally the sports laughing stock to excellent.
19 of the last 21 NFL seasons.
At least one team has gone from last to first place in their division.
This year we have two, Commanders, Arizona.
So, I mean, Washington flushed everybody out.
The owner, the coach, the executives, the scouts.
I mean, they just started over.
And I had told Jason McIntyre, generally I don't like that.
But if everybody was bad before and everybody's much better now, then by all means, get new furniture.
You know, clean out the rooms.
So Adam Schaefter reported this week that literally NFL players privately to their agents were texting them and saying,
get me to the commanders.
So I think this has really always been,
there's a couple of things that make the NFL really popular,
but I think hope is key.
Think about the Chargers.
The Chargers had the worst defense in the league last year,
and now they have the number one defense.
And they just, they didn't get a bunch of new players.
They just got the right coach.
The commanders were unwatchable,
unwatchable offensively last year.
Now they have the number three offense.
Better than Kansas Cities.
Why?
Because they got the right quarterback
and coordinator. So it's, it, the coach and the coordinator, the head coach and the
quarterback are the king and the queen of the chess board in the league. And I think it's just great
that sometimes you don't even have to get a coach and a quarterback to go from bad to great. The
Rams had Jared Goff. They just got a coach, Sean McVeigh. Same quarterback turned it around
in one year. So I think there's just something to be said about the way the collective bargaining
works. The league in which
the players have the least amount of power
is football.
And it's the best run league.
Baseball players have too much
power. Teams get trapped with bad
contracts. NBA, players
league. NFL?
It's not.
That's why in the NFL
name
two terrible contracts in the league right now
where a team is trapped.
Obviously Denver
and Russell Wilson's deal for the rest of this
year and next year, it's not ideal. But it is hard to find in the NFL. You know, Deshawn
Watson, that's Cleveland's fault. That's not the league's fault. That's not the CBA's fault. That's just
bad ownership. Cleveland's got a terrible contract. That's on Cleveland. That's just, they do stuff
like that. But it is hard to find multiple bad contracts. I mean, I go back to the best of Kansas
City. If you look at their entire organization, if they ever had a really terrible contract, not really.
New England had Albert Hainsworth for a very short time.
They moved off it.
But you want to give the players all this power.
Well, what happens is you get buried in bad contracts.
And the NFL doesn't have it.
So if you want a clean house, you can go from the Texans, commanders, one year.
League Laughingstock.
Next year, playoff team.
And I think hope is, I mean, the Chargers, you looked at them last year.
And, I mean, players quit.
Football players don't quit. Hockey and football players don't quit during games.
You get hurt.
Players quit last year.
And now this year, I think if Buffalo doesn't do it, the Chargers will be the first team that actually beat the Chiefs.
Because I think they match up really, really well.
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with a special two-hour Veterans Day pregame show
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Then Brock Purdy and the Niners take on Baker Mayfield and the Bucks
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Check local listings for the game in your area on Fox.
About 15 minutes from now, Tom,
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joins the show.
So for the first time in the Mahomes era, Kansas City's 8-0, another second team to do that.
The Niners did this in the early 90s to win back-to-back Super Bowls and then start 8-0.
It doesn't happen very often.
And I think, you know, I was talking to Julian Edelman yesterday, and I'll get to that in a second.
But I think everybody has to just accept their playing at about 8-Nohs.
80% now, and they're just better than everybody.
And there's a lot of different ways.
The Warrior Dynasty just blew people out.
But this is, I've compared it to New England.
You didn't always feel New England had the best players,
but you knew they had the best coach and the best quarterback,
and a really good owner in a smart personnel department,
especially early in Belichick's career.
But, I mean, the Chiefs are still missing their best running back.
DeAndre Hopkins will only get better.
Travis Kelsey's finally played well the last two weeks.
They don't know what to do with Xavier Worthy.
They're like an electric vehicle that's about 45% charged right now.
I don't think they're fully charged.
I like them, and I like them better than last year, and last year they won.
If you go to their first four games and their last four games, they're obviously the scoring is up, the offense is up.
They're just a better team.
And I just think they have too many firsts to end up second.
They have the best coach, the best quarterback, the best defensive linemen, the best interior offensive line,
they're the best third down team
you know you heard too big to fail
two best to fail they've got too many bests
not to be really really good i do think i do think
Baltimore and buffalo even the chargers
match up pretty well with them but i don't
you know i think they're at buffalo in two weeks
they play the chargers i think those teams especially the chargers
i think really match up with kansas city very well
but julian edelman was talking about this yesterday he's been on teams like this
uh where it's just they are really good
in high leverage, crucial moments, fourth quarter and overtime.
They're a machine right now.
And we talked about last time I was on.
There's situational plays they always do well on.
And that's because they prepare for those plays.
They know the games come down between a few third downs here,
that you have to get off the field when you're on defense,
or you have to extend a drive or a red area play.
They were unbelievable in the red area last night.
They were great on third down,
watching DeAndre Hopkins there.
be on the same page with the confident, focused, Patrick Mahomes is something I would have expected a veteran-type guy that knows space, that knows zone, that's great in the red area, that's great on third down.
I think they're going to be very tough to beat.
I agree.
So I was thinking about this this morning.
Obviously, half the country is elated.
Half the country is miserable and somber today.
And we're just at the halfway point, just slightly past the halfway point.
If you count the playoffs, we're not quite at the halfway point yet.
And so starting tomorrow, Cincinnati is at Baltimore.
And so there are 14 games and 28 total teams playing.
And I counted exactly 11 of the 28 teams playing.
Only 39% of the teams playing.
And I yellowed them here.
Baltimore, Buffalo, Kansas City, San Francisco, Pittsburgh, Washington,
Chargers, Philly, Detroit, Houston, and the Los Angeles Rams.
Only 39% of the teams playing, we're halfway through the season,
really, really feel good about their team.
The rest of them, it's an owner, it's a coach weakness, it's a quarterback issue,
it's a roster problem.
And we're halfway through the season.
Now, think about that.
All these teams, every one of them has a billionaire as an owner.
they all operate under the same salary cab
same roster allowances
all play same number of games
some cold some warm some dome some outside
same commissioner
same rules for everybody
and 39% that's it
of the teams
playing and I looked at 11 this weekend
I don't think Pittsburgh Steelers fans
think they're Kansas City or Baltimore,
but I think they're really happy where they are with their coach,
their defense, they were aggressive at the trade deadline, 39%.
So if you're having a bad day and you don't love your prospects for the next few years,
remember, life isn't short, it's long.
I told my son that today.
Life's not short.
It's long.
I've been around a long time.
Life isn't easy.
It's hard.
Dry spells, crisis, somebody's going to break your heart,
going to have a health scare.
I had one of those a few years ago.
How you react to it.
will define you and the path.
And so it's the same thing.
If you panic as a team or as a person,
the teams that end up drafting
are the teams that panic.
They end up drafting.
Go look at the top 10 teams drafting right now next year.
The top 10 draft picks, same teams.
Same teams.
You got a Jacksonville, you got a Carolina,
you got a Raiders, same teams.
And so if you think you're going to win every game,
every election, every day, every moment, every relationship,
not going to happen.
There's going to be a lot of misery.
and take a deep breath.
Today's the strangest day for me to host a show.
Halfia miserable, half a you elated.
All of you, take a deep breath.
Tom Brady, top of the next hour.
I will say this, that there is still,
tomorrow's game, Baltimore hosting Cincinnati,
tomorrow's game is unique.
You have one team that may be the best team in the league.
I mean, literally everything in Baltimore is going well.
Derek Henry acquisition, Lamar Jackson's great in hell.
healthy. Mark Andrews now playing better. They finally got him wide receivers, A. Flowers. I mean,
their draft picks don't miss. Like Baltimore feels great. In Cincinnati, it's the opposite.
They feel great about one thing, one and a half, Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase. So yesterday is a prime
example. We always blame coaches, we want to fire coaches, and we want to trade players.
Tomorrow night is really a battle between ownership. I've talked to general managers through the
about the best run team in the league.
And almost to an executive,
the Ravens are the model franchise.
That is the model.
If you ask Steve Beshati, the owner,
the general manager,
Harbaugh, if you ask executives in the league,
name the best run organization.
It's Baltimore.
If you ask people in the league,
the ownership space you wouldn't want to coach under.
It's Arizona.
and Cincinnati.
Cheap.
Just won't spend money at all.
Probably could toss the Browns and Jets in there as well.
Well, I think the Browns have shown they'll spend money.
I mean, they'll spend it poorly, but Cleveland will spend money.
They're very aggressive during the offseason, like almost bizarrely aggressive.
They tend to reach and get desperate and panic.
Desperate, that's the key word.
Yeah, but they're not cheap.
Arizona's not spending that kind of money on a quarterback.
Arizona is cheap and Cincinnati is cheap.
I just looked this up.
The Bengals and Ravens have played 10 times since Burrow got to the league.
Because both quarterbacks have been injured a lot.
Yeah.
Burrow and Lamar have only faced off three times.
How many times?
Three out of ten.
Because one of them's always hurt.
That's interesting.
I think this is going to be a close game.
One score game.
I'll take the organizations.
I'll take the Ravens.
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