The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - Dallas needs a reboot

Episode Date: October 28, 2024

Colin is done buying into the Cowboys after another loss to the 49ers and why we need to finally accept they are not a good enough team The Jets might not win 5 games this season Thoughts on the World... Series so farSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:18 where Colin was wrong. Another joyous weekend starting Friday night with the World Series. Dodgers have a 2-0 league game three tonight in New York. We'll talk about that later. Dallas Cowboys, it may be, it may be time to rebuild, like now. Maybe time to refiress. Wow. What a disaster they are.
Starting point is 00:03:44 What a disaster. Well, stop me if you've heard this before. The Cowboys got beat handily by San Francisco and Dak had several interceptions. Brock Purdy alone rushed for more yards as the, than the Dallas. Cowboys. They are a poorly constructed football operation. Their defense, only the Carolina Panthers have a worst defense in the NFL. Hey, but Dak got the bag again. Good luck with that. I think the Dallas Cowboys immediately have to consider being sellers at the deadline. Their schedule gets even harder. It's time for a rebuild. They do nothing well. A rebuild starting
Starting point is 00:04:28 with a kicker. I like him. He didn't even show. show up, he had jury duty. He's still good, like the kicker. But this is a really bad football team. And the next four games are against the Falcons and the Eagles and the Texans and the commanders. And all of those teams won yesterday. And all those teams now are playing really good football. So you think, oh, we got the Niners out of the way. No, I'd argue right now, the commanders are playing better than the Niners. The Eagles yesterday were fantastic. I mean, the Texans, say what you want about the Texans, but when they're healthy, they're really, good. In Atlanta, they're going to win their division. I mean, here's what makes it worse. Dallas now three and four. San Francisco was down like four or five high-end starters.
Starting point is 00:05:11 They were on their third running back. They're on their third kicker. And then Debo, Samuel, gets hurt during the game. Brock Purdy didn't play well. And they still rushed for 223 yards. They still did it. I mean, they're down multiple players. Christian McCaffrey's coming back soon. Greg Jennings. Joan Jennings coming back soon. They're getting guys. pack. So off a buy, Dallas showed a little bit of life in the first half. But then it went to the second half
Starting point is 00:05:39 and the Cowboys' first three second half drives. Listen to this. Pick three and out, three and out. And the Niners, with the better coach, making adjustments, their first three possessions in the second half, touchdown,
Starting point is 00:05:55 touchdown, touchdown. They outgained the Cowboys just in the third quarter almost 10 to 1 so and this is off a bye this is when you're arrested yeah micah parsons wasn't there i mean how many christian mccarthy wasn't there for the other guy so you know the the old saying um if you fool me once shame on you uh if you fool fool me twice shame on me if you fool all of us for like 29 years what does that translate to the Mike McCarthy Cowboys
Starting point is 00:06:31 look now like the Jason Garrett Cowboys that looked like the Wade Philip Cowboys that looked like the Chan Gayley Cowboys I mean outside of Boeing has any major brand fallen harder and faster
Starting point is 00:06:49 in the last 12 months than the Dallas Cowboys. I just don't get it. The schedule's getting tougher. Dack against the better teams can't play. I think you have to sell it. I think you have to keep the kicker. keep CD Lamb, I guess you keep DAC, and just move parts. Trade deadlines coming up. A lot of people would go for Micah Parsons. A lot of people would.
Starting point is 00:07:08 DeMarcus Lawrence, one of the corners. Maybe you're tied in. You're a mile away from Detroit. I mean, I watched Philadelphia yesterday. That roster is stacked. San Francisco's better than you, and they're not healthy yet. Kansas cities and Buffaloes and Baltimore's and Houston's, and I mean, the Chargers looked good yesterday.
Starting point is 00:07:27 I mean, this roster is not top 10. I'm not sure if it's top 15 in the league. I think you've got to sell it. And, I mean, you're stuck with DAC. And, you know, DAC against the Niners, you get interceptions. That's what you get. And here's the quarterback after. Not turn the ball over, period.
Starting point is 00:07:45 As I said, I don't have to be perfect, but I damn sure can't be having the turnover. I'm frustrated myself with my play. I imagine the rest of the guys are. Not getting the win. Two now, two in a row. sitting at three and four, but I can definitely tell you that nobody's shaking or giving up. Frustration is very high, but it's a long season. And it keeps getting longer, the more they play.
Starting point is 00:08:15 That's when you know you're in trouble. When a long season, it's happening to the Jets, feels longer after every game is over. I mean, the Niners were off. a tough physical game, an emotional loss to Kansas City. The Cowboys had a buy. So this was a perfect opportunity to finally knock out San Francisco. And that third quarter, it was a coaching mismatch, a run game mismatch, a quarterback mismatch.
Starting point is 00:08:43 I think he'd tear it down and rebuild it. It's painful. Cowboy fans are loyal, but this doesn't work and this isn't close. And here come the commanders and the Eagles and the Texans and the Falcons. you could, I mean, you could lose all of those games. Okay, so yesterday, I mean, I'm not somebody that, you know, says, you know, this coach needs to be fired or get rid of this staff. I'll make an exception today.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Multiple people probably need to lose their job that coached the Chicago Bears. They lost the Washington. And they deserve to lose to Washington. That was not luck with a Hail Mary. Okay, maybe it was luck. But what I saw in the second half may have been the worst coaching. I have seen by an NFL team over the course of a half in years. I mean, number one, handing the ball to a backup center,
Starting point is 00:09:33 you've got good running backs, you've got good tight ends, you've got good wide receivers, handing the ball to a backup center. That was your best drive of the day to that point. You had one big run, but that was the best drive of the day to that point. And that's your play. Off a buy, that's the play. That's your clever play. That is just,
Starting point is 00:09:53 That's non-negotiable. You can't do that. You're not Carolina. You've got players. In fact, you've spent money on the offensive side. Multiple tight ends, multiple receivers, a good running back, a capable backup running back, a mobile quarterback. That can't be it off a by. Secondly, on the Hail Mary, you got one of your defensive players, John with fans, as the ball and the ball's in play.
Starting point is 00:10:18 He's just John with fans. I mean, there's also the fact that you have a linebacker on that play spot. on Jaden Daniels instead of deep as if Jaden Daniels is going to peel off a 52-yard touchdown run. What are you doing? I mean, this is just coming off a buy, Chicago's first seven possessions, coming off a buy, six punts and a turnover on downs. What is going on? Way to use that extra work to hand the ball off to a backup center and not be prepared on a
Starting point is 00:10:49 Hail Mary. I mean, Caleb Williams was bad in the first half. in the second but didn't play well. What you saw yesterday is two young ascending teams and two tremendously good quarterbacks. But tell me you don't feel this way this morning. Jaden Daniels, that's going to work. He's got
Starting point is 00:11:05 a support system. Kingsbury, Terry McLorran, Dan Quinn, new owner. It kind of feels like it's not only going to work, it's working now. Forget the Hail Mary. They outplayed Chicago. Caleb is starting to feel a lot like Andrew Luck, where you're like, you may need to clean house.
Starting point is 00:11:23 because this kid's going to get hurt. But that is just unforgivable nonsense yesterday. I never see anything like it. And I'm not somebody who stands up here and says, fire this, fire that. I usually defend. I mean, I defend a hardball for years at Michigan when you wanted him out, or a Brian Kelly at Notre Dame or a Lincoln, Riley. I tend to be a sark after a bad loss.
Starting point is 00:11:49 I tend to be like, you know, it's hard. that stuff off a buy it was a it was here's the other thing listen after they're defending the handoff and defending everything about that obviously the guys were disappointed
Starting point is 00:12:05 when you lose a game like that you know that's a tough one to swallow and we've practiced that play a hundred times since we've been here and again I have to look at what the execution was of that but we have a body on a body boxing guys out again I got to look at it and detail
Starting point is 00:12:21 it out and make sure we're better next time. I mean, honestly, here's my question about the staff. He said, we practiced that thing 100 times. On like the 38th time you practiced it, did not somebody on the offensive staff go, hey, can I speak up? He's a backup center. We got really good running backs. Can we just scrap this?
Starting point is 00:12:45 Like, it's not going to work. I mean, here's the thing. Let's say it would have worked for a touchdown. you don't get any extra points if you use a backup center than one of your running backs. And by the way, if I was a star running back for the Bears and I worked so hard being a running back, can't you give me the one-yard touchdown run for the big win? Doubling down on it. Hail Mary, look disorganized.
Starting point is 00:13:14 That. I could go on and on about their, you know, fade pattern in the end zone, which is like a 3% call, nothing about Chicago in the second half is endearing. None of it. I mean, move off who you got to move off, but that's a mess. This is becoming Andrew Luck.
Starting point is 00:13:35 One of my favorite things is when you go to the local radio team on a crazy win. So if you haven't heard it, this is the commander's radio broadcast team after the Hail Mary works. Four with the goal line. They bring three. David is backing up. He's just going to have to let one fly. Goes to the right side.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Steps away from the defenders. Gives himself some time. Now, steps up, fires. Heads towards the end zone. By the way, you went to college, J. Mack, near D.C. Why don't you just abandon the Jets and go with a winner? That team is so much fun. That was our surprise pick to make the playoffs this year.
Starting point is 00:14:26 They're better than we thought they would be. and it's one of those like usually with Hail Marys, I feel bad for the losing team. I was overjoyed the commanders won. They outplayed them. They out-coached them. They out-staffed them. They out-thought them. They out-prepared them.
Starting point is 00:14:43 And their quarterbacks banged up. Washington completely deserved to win that game. It's the only Hail Mary I've ever seen and thought, no sympathy for the losing team. Because usually it's so gutting and jarring and awful. And you see the coaching staff melt. It's like, no. You guys should have lost eight times. What a Sunday.
Starting point is 00:15:03 What a week. And tonight, game three in New York, 232, New York now. May have blown the series in game one when they pulled Garrett Cole. I know it's analytics. I don't want to argue with the seamheads. Don't want to argue. Did not like that move. J. Max, you have a fun weekend?
Starting point is 00:15:23 It was an outstanding weekend. I'm glad you didn't bring up a certain green and white team. Oh, that's next. No, no, no, come on. We can avoid that. There's so much other good stuff happening around the sports world. Why do you need to go there? What, LeBron?
Starting point is 00:15:35 How about LeBron had a tremendous weekend with the undefeated Lakers? I mean, we love the Giants tonight. Like, it's just a great time to be a sportsman. We love the Giants. Speak for yourself. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. On Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeard Radio app. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encourage.
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Starting point is 00:20:41 I'm trying to not talk about the Patriots, but when they keep losing, it's hard not to. And when they keep losing the teams like New England, remember, they got beat at home by Bo Nix rookie. And everybody said, oh, that's as bad as it gets. No, it got worse. 25-22 loss to the Patriots. And I warned you, when you fired Robert Sala, what did I preach? You just let your best coach out of the building. It's the third straight, weak defensive performance.
Starting point is 00:21:13 I warned you, most points the Patriots have scored all year. Jacoby Brissette marched down the field, 12 play 70 yards. Only way they could lose, and they did. Think about this. The last two New England drives without Robert Sala. The Patriots converted. a third and nine, a third in nine, a third in ten, and a third and eleven. The Patriots did.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Not doing that with Robert Saul in the building, but you know who wanted him out and pretend that they didn't. It's just like, here's how NEPTA jets are. Think about this. It's been 12 years since what the Jets did has happened. A team had no turnovers, held the opponent under 250 yards, and lost. That doesn't happen. In fact, NFL teams were 220.
Starting point is 00:21:58 and zero until yesterday. If you don't turn the ball over and you in the NFL and hold an opponent under 250 yards, for 10 years, you won every time, 220 times in a row until the judge yesterday. One of the defensive linemen for the Patriots said out loud what we've been saying for multiple weeks. Aaron's done. I've been preaching this. He's aged poorly and quickly. There's no discussion here.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Aaron ranks 30th in completion percentage, and he now has three excellent wide receivers. Well, two excellent ones in Alan Lazard. You can't blame the lack of skill players. They've got them now. He can't extend plays, and he doesn't like motion. So what you have is a 40-year-old off an Achilles surgery who's rigid and stuck in his ways. So he's stuck in his ways, and he's stuck in the pocket. He just doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:22:53 He doesn't want to be coached. He doesn't want too much motion. They had a ton the first game. They changed the O'Cs. The next week they cut most of it out. They looked disorganized. Ian O'Connor put out a tweet yesterday. It was so true.
Starting point is 00:23:04 Out of the huddle, they're slow. To the line, they're slow. There's no energy with the offense. So again, and I don't think he's a galvanizer or a unifier. And that's what Brady did or Stafford did when they come to an organization. And they're guys, guys. And everybody rallies around an older Brady or an older Stafford, even though they're older than all the players in the locker room,
Starting point is 00:23:25 I feel like one of the guys. Aaron's not a unifier. He's not a unifier. He's, you know, and I'm not saying he walks in and he's a divider, but he's not a unifier. That's not what he is. And, I mean, they jets burn three timeouts in the first quarter. They couldn't even get the basics right. And here was Aaron after. I've been in the darkness. You got to go in there, make peace with it. You can't objectively say this is the reason why there's a lot of, you know, we had some substitution, uh, stuff at times. We were late back in the huddle. Sometimes after a big play, that can be a slow operation. Yeah, we have shifts in motions on plays after some of those. We try to get lined up, trying to get playoff, trying to get the right, perfect call. There's a lot to look at. Oh, yeah. There's a lot to look at. Notably, the rigid 40-year-old quarterback who is like part-time poet, part-time manifest.
Starting point is 00:24:25 at the podium trying to sound smart, and the Jets don't play smart. Who burns three timeouts in the first quarter? That would be like a bad college team with a freshman quarterback. Who does that? And then at the end of the game, Robert Sala's not in the building. Well, you've got an interim coach trying to be coach. You've got your second offensive coordinator. You can say whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:24:51 You can blame whoever you want. but you know I look around I never thought this would be a playoff team and I said it I don't think they have the leadership and I don't think that's what Aaron does this is worse than I thought and I didn't think it was going to be great
Starting point is 00:25:07 I thought they were like an 8-9 team 8-9-9-8-8-9-8 they may not win five games I'm serious they may not win five games J-Mac with the news no no no turn on the news
Starting point is 00:25:19 this is the herd line news Game three of the World Series tonight, the first two, Colin, were outstanding. Dodgers did win both of them. Game one, obviously, the unbelievable Grand Slam walkoff. Game two was overshadowed by Shohei Otani's shoulder injury. According to Dave Roberts, it looks like Otani will play in game three tonight. Expectation given talking to the training staff and getting the reports. And so I just know if it's a per tolerance situation, I just don't see him.
Starting point is 00:25:53 not playing game three. And I think that he's obviously very well aware of himself and his body. So if he feels good enough to go, then I see no reason why he wouldn't be in there. If he is able to play, willing to play, he's going to play. And Schmidt will know that show he's in the box. So that means everything. I still think the Yankees have a real opportunity here. They have the superior starting pitching. And I think Walker Bueller goes for the Dodgers tonight, but then they go to a bullpen game. I mean, that tells you, you're in the World Series and you're going to have to do what you did against the Padres and Mets.
Starting point is 00:26:33 You're going to have a bullpen game because you just don't have enough starters. So it's hard to find a time when you had a great starting pitching staff with a tremendous Garrett Cole ace postseason ace against a team that's having to do on a regular basis bullpen games to survive. But that's where we're at. That's why I still think the Yankees have a real shot here to win a couple of games in New York. Yeah, this is definitely not over. We should turn back the clock to Friday night and the Dodgers Grand Slam walkoff.
Starting point is 00:27:03 I think it's got to be one of the seminal moments in World Series history. Like that was an – I know it didn't win the series, but Colin, I mean, come on, from the call to the shot, the crowd. You know, it was pretty epic. Kirk Gibson did it. Kurt Gibson did it. And came out of the clubhouse limping, and Freddie Freeman has been dealing with an injury all year. or later in the year. So it was reminiscent to some degree of Kirk Gibson.
Starting point is 00:27:27 But, I mean, it's just, this is. I'm sure you saw it. I posted it on my Instagram. There's all these side by sides of the Gibson with Vince Scully's call and then Freeman shot. Like, it was, I got to say, even if you're, obviously a Yankees fan born in New York, that was pretty amazing.
Starting point is 00:27:43 I was at a Halloween party, and it was just bedlam. People were freaking out going crazy. It was just, that was pretty awesome. It was hard to the World Series. You got to admit. Yep. All right, let's move on.
Starting point is 00:27:53 to the NFL, Colin, and Anthony Richardson. We like this guy. We like him a lot as a prospect. We like his head coach. And holy cow, is he awful as a quarterback? Two for 15 in the first half. That's what he was passing against the Texans. And then a curious moment happened in the third quarter. Richardson's running for his life as the Colts offensive lines kind of breaking down there. I think the Texans set a record for pressures. Anthony Richardson decided to take himself out of the game.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Here he is telling the media afterward. Yeah, tired. I ain't a lot. That was a lot of running right there. What I did, and I don't think I was going to be able to go that next play. So I just, you know, just told me I just needed a brick right there. Yeah, that can't be the reason you go out on a crucial play. I'm tired. You're a pro athlete.
Starting point is 00:28:39 I mean, like, you're a quarterback. You can't do that. Like, wide receiver I get. Sometimes you're like, I just ran seven seam routes, like, in a row. But, yeah, and the other thing is this is a great example in the other. NFL, you can do a lot right. GM I like, coach I like, weapons I like, running back
Starting point is 00:28:56 I like, they got Kenny Moore's been a good corner for a long time, DeForest Buckner, like, they do a lot right. If the quarterback play is poor, it holds the franchise hostage. There's nothing you can do. And I mean, this is, we used to say like the T-bow line, like there's
Starting point is 00:29:12 certain percentages you have to hit as a starting quarterback. The cults are completely big play reliant. they can't sustain drives with Anthony Richardson. In the NFL, sometimes even when you're winning, you need a nine-play drive to kill the clock. So they struggle to play from behind,
Starting point is 00:29:33 but they struggle even to play with a lead because they can't sustain drives. They're terrible on third down. They can't do the simple stuff. So it's just not built. If Shane Steichen can't unravel this mystery, then it can't be unraveled because he's considered as sharp as any young offensive.
Starting point is 00:29:50 coach in this league. Remember Josh Allen had the accuracy problems young when early in his career in Buffalo? He was never a 31% in a game. Like you watch Richardson. And yeah, I got the young kids at home and I'm telling them like, hey, just get the easy stuff right. You know, brush your teeth, shower, the basics. Yeah. Stay hydrated. You know, drink water. Take your plate to the sink. The basic stuff. Anthony Richardson cannot do anything basic as a quarterback. Now, in his defense, there are some people defending him. The Texans had a 60% pressure rate tied for the highest in the NFL in a game this season.
Starting point is 00:30:24 They had 24 pressures on Anthony Richardson. He literally was running for his life. You know why? Because they don't respect him on the back. They know they can't read a defense. They're not doing that against Mahomes. I mean, the idea here is, oh, this quarterback, when you speed him up goes from bad to awful.
Starting point is 00:30:41 That's why the Texans are doing that. So you can defend somebody on that. Nobody's blitzing Mahomes. Even some of the young quarterbacks, like a C.J. Stroud, you got to be very careful blitzing them. Like, they'll burn you. The Texans had no fear. They're going to get burned on the other end. Richardson unfortunately has to face Minnesota this week, and Brian Flores, who blitz, I believe, at the second highest rate in the league. And they're coming off extra rest, angry off the Rams game. This line, this will probably be touch a touchdown by the time we talk about it. Final story, Colin, NBA, getting into the first hour. Here we go. The Lakers and Jay.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Rettick 3-0? First time in over a decade, Anthony Davis has been unbelievable for the Lakers. He believes that L.A.'s start has put the rest of the league on notice. I'm able to hold our own and put the league on notice that we're, you know, we're a different team, you know, and we want to, we're going to come out and compete every night. My name, Jack. Whether we're up 20 or down 20, you know, we're going to continue to fight. And we've been able to be on the winning side of things in the first two games. Also, it's notable AD's usage rate through the roof.
Starting point is 00:31:59 LeBron's usage rate has dropped. So, J.J. Reddick has come in. Here's the plan. More AD. We said this after the first game. More AD, less LeBron. And for a lot of reasons, that's the right play. Number one right now, 80s, the more consistent, better player.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Number two is save LeBron for the games and spots. It really matters. That's a great point. And I will add LeBron on a back-to-back. Joel and Bede, are you listening? Back-to-back had a triple double, 32, 14, and 10. Joel and B won't even play back-to-backs. LeBron now 39 years old.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Listen, Lakers look really good. And by the way, I don't know if you saw, but the Denver Nuggets are awful so far this season. It's early, but they are terrible. You've seen the plus minus on the new guy? Westbrook. Oh, yeah. I didn't even think about him. By the way, so the Bucks really on the struggle bus,
Starting point is 00:32:53 Nuggets really on the struggle bus. I don't think Yolkich is going anywhere, but your Yonah's prediction from member NBA predictions last week, I'll keep an eye on that. The Bucks do not look good. Well, we've been saying this for two years. The Bucks are too old. I mean, like when they played Boston last year,
Starting point is 00:33:08 a young twitchy team, they just look slow. They're going to make the playoffs, obviously. But I think, my guess, one of my predictions, Janus, after this, and by the way, to get young, you have to generally get worse. Nobody wants to give up young, good players, so you only get them by moving pieces and drafting. So is Janus want to go through another rebuild? Because you're just too old to compete against the Boston and OKC. It's not going to work.
Starting point is 00:33:34 League, look, it's only a week. We're not going to overreact, but there's some interesting stuff so far in the NBA. J-MAC with the news Well, that's the news And thanks for stopping by The Hurd-Line News So the Detroit Lions Beat the Titans, not a very good team,
Starting point is 00:33:49 52 to 14 And Jared Goff had 85 passing yards So there have been three great offensive lines in about the last decade There was the DAC rookie year for about three years, three pro bowlers, the DAC O-line, the Eagles,
Starting point is 00:34:07 before Jason Kelsey just retired, dominant three pro bowlers, and this Detroit Lions, offensive line. Took them a couple of games this year to figure it out, but they're a power team. And they have more touchdowns right now, 25, than interceptions, or incompletions, excuse me. More touchdowns than incompletions in their last five games. And, I mean, they had three different players throw passes yesterday. Six different lions actually scored. And they're doing it in special teams.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Their punt returner had about. About 190 yards. They had a big kickoff return. The kickers, good. We always worry about the back end of their defense. But Jameson Williams, the receiver's been out. Aidan Hutchison out for the year has no impact. I mean, every team in the NFL wants their quarterback to be comfortable.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Right? You want your quarterback to be comfortable, but it's like Jared Goffs and a lazy boy recliner back there. I mean, he's literally, literally an armchair quarterback. So he's got time to throw. He's got a dominant run game. The special teams, the protection. They are a buzzsaw right now in Tennessee. I mean, that honestly felt it was almost collegiate in the second half.
Starting point is 00:35:14 It felt like Alabama and the Sabin Dynasty and Citadel just came to Tuscaloosa. It was a complete utter mismatch. And they remind me now that that Dallas team with Dak wasn't good enough at quarterback. They won 13 games, though, and they just rolled over people. And we said this all the time. It is hard. If you have a good bullpen in baseball, it's hard. hard to be a bad team. If you score like the average runs, and it's hard. If you have an
Starting point is 00:35:43 offensive line as good as DAC's early O lines, I mean, DAC was a rookie in 113 games. The Eagles before Jason Kelsey retired, you know, it's in this Detroit team, I said this a couple of weeks ago. It feels almost inevitable. Kansas City who wins every big game and Detroit feel like they're headed to the Super Bowl, points per game, yards per play, offensive touchdowns, points per drive, first, first, first, second, first, first, first, first. It is really something to behold. Don't forget, Colin Wright, Colin wrong, top of next hour. Plus Matt Hasselbeck, Mark Sanchez on a Monday.
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Starting point is 00:37:07 football or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week, I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment, and the next we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast.
Starting point is 00:37:37 It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So, if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford Show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defining the odds.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series
Starting point is 00:38:27 because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us every. everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nass would get that thing.
Starting point is 00:38:45 That man, hell get the flying. He run up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball. Like, you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Deanna Maria Riva, actress, mother, lover, and a Gen X woman walking through life one hot flash and hormonal crime jag at a time.
Starting point is 00:39:11 You ladies know what I mean. I'll bet you a perimenapausal chin here you do. So let's talk about it. Join me on my new podcast. How hard can it be with Deanna Maria Riva, where I call on my Gen X squads from Ohio to Hollywood as we navigate midlife's most fantastic BS. All of a sudden, I'd had hanginess happening on my own. I was like, what the hell is that? was married when I had her, so I didn't even consider how empty that nest was going to be.
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Starting point is 00:39:49 They say we can't polish a turd, but we're sure going to try. So let's get blunt with laughs, tears or tears of laughter, and dive into it, unfiltered and unbothered and ask, how hard can it be? I cannot believe I'm about to say this out loud in public. Listen to how much. Listen to How Hard Can It Be with Diana Maria Riva as part of My Cultura Podcast Network available on the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone, it's Ryder Strong and Wilfridell from PodMeets World. And now the PodMeets Twirled podcast.
Starting point is 00:40:22 We're two men who were completely clueless to reality TV, who now have covered Dancing with the Stars, traitors, and we're gearing up for the season finale of Survivor. So yeah, now we're experts. I know we annoyed a lot of our listeners by our... severe lack of survivor knowledge. That is the point of the show. I'm just going to remind you. I have watched some Survivor. I obviously haven't watched enough.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Did people not like it? Like what was just because we? Yeah. We'll be recapping the big conclusion in the 50th season from the final attempts at gameplay to the desperate pleas of finalists to a bunch of ha, who. Ah, ha, who.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Again, we are experts. So make sure to tune into Pod Meets Twirled for all our Survivor 50 takes. Listen to Pod Meets Tworold on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's baseball's two most legendary franchises. So all the baseball fans out there just buckle up. This is going to be a great series. Stanton, Golf Swan, scraping the sky and giving the Yankees the league.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Weird. Cole was dominating this game. 88 pitches, let them pitch. Nester Cortez, who's not pitched in a month. What theater? Cortez, delivery. Right. The other scenarios you dream about.
Starting point is 00:41:45 That's as good as it gets right there. Freddie Freeman launches this spot. He's found the seats again. They're a judge, and he find it in the postseason before it's too late. Assembly, I've got to start trying to strikes. Space is loaded, two gone. Fly ball to center field. And the Dodgers lead this World Series two games set on.
Starting point is 00:42:05 What a start for Freddie Freeman and the Dodgers. They've raced out to a 2-0 lead tonight from Yankee Stadium. It's a pivotal game three as Judges and the Yankees look to get back. in the series. Coverage begins at 7 p.m. Eastern on Fox. Yeah, Aaron Judge has been awful, and that's what happens with power hitters. We told you before the series, I thought Otani and Betts were the two best players, whereas Aaron Judge is very power-reliant, and power hitters go through real dry spells. I still think the Yankees have a shot. The Dodgers are going to have to have a
Starting point is 00:42:36 bullpen session. I mean, that's essentially, this is the World Series, but they're going to have a bullpen game in the World Series. They're out of pitchers. Walker Bueller goes tonight, I think they go to the bullpen game. And it worked against the Padres. It worked against the Mets. Can it work in a World Series? Even the closer in game two, Alex Vessia, missed the last series. I mean, they're just running out of arms.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Is there ever been a time where a team, and they've had 40 different pitchers in the season. It doesn't make any sense. They shouldn't win this World Series. And the Yankees also have a really strong starting staff. Now, in game one, there's questions about the analytics move by Aaron Boone. He pulled Garrett Cole after 88 pitches. That's analytics. I didn't agree, though, and my take is, first of all, you're paying the guy at $324 million as a Yankee.
Starting point is 00:43:28 Not all pitch counts are even or equal, okay? The second thing is the Dodgers are not the guardians or the Tigers or the Orioles. The middle and bottom of the Dodgers lineup is so deep, historically. Tommy Edmund in game one batted eighth. He was the NLCS MVP. So you should not trust your relievers. The Yankee bullpen is okay. They have a pure closer, but it's okay overall.
Starting point is 00:43:58 If Garrett Cole's humming, you just go with Garrett Cole, who's a great postseason pitcher and the best pitcher on your staff. So when you pull him out, you're going to lesser pitchers. You can probably get away with that against the Guardians or the Orients. I don't know if you can get away with it. You certainly couldn't this Friday. You can't get away with it with the Dodgers. They have so much offensive talent.
Starting point is 00:44:20 I mean, it's remarkable. I've never seen anything like it. Even the great teams of the 70s and 80s that were considered stacked, at the bottom of a lineup, you had no home run power. Not the case here. So Derek Jeter, after Aaron Boone, pulled Garrett Cole, their ace, their $324 million pitcher. humming. You know, you can beat the Dodgers.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Pitching will always beat hitting. If somebody's humming and they're an ace, you can shut down the Dodgers. But do you pull them if they're humming in L.A. where you can steal game one. Here's Derek Jeter. When we were playing the Mets in 2000, how lighter pitched game six? He threw 140-something pitches. 140-something pitches. Garrett Cole was dominating this game. He was dominating the game.
Starting point is 00:45:11 And if you take them out after 88 pitches for, I don't know what reason, it's a domino effect on not only this game tonight, tomorrow's game and the rest of the series. So I just think when you have someone that's dealing like Garrett Cole was dealing tonight, you leave them out there as long as you can. And remember, again, it was in L.A. You have to contextualize it. It was in Los Angeles. And you're going to go back eventually three straight in New York. So it's in LA, you can steal it. He's your best pitcher.
Starting point is 00:45:43 The Dodgers don't get flummoxed very often at the plate, and he was flying through him. I mean, if you want to wait until he's in real trouble, maybe it's only 98 pitches or 108. But it just felt like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. When you can find a pitcher that can get this lineup out, I'm not, I know it's analytics, but I talk about this all the time in football analytics. Like, I understand analytics, but Peyton Manning's talked about this. The analytics can tell you to go for it. But if you're the quarterback and you're struggling to pick up first downs,
Starting point is 00:46:14 a fourth and two could feel like a fourth and eight. Contextualize it. How good is your kicker? If you have an automatic kicker, how good is your defense? How much time left? You have to contextualize all these analytics. You know, in the NBA season, you know, the mid-range jumper, which they think is useless during the big volume regular season,
Starting point is 00:46:32 becomes very valuable because the NBA playoffs are get a stop and get a bucket. however, whatever means possible, wherever you are on the floor. And in the postseason, I mean, sometimes you'll use your starter out of the bullpen in like game six or game seven. So everything goes out the door. What you do over the course of a volume season. I get analytics for 162 games. You get to a World Series against the Dodger team that may be the best offensive lineup ever, and you are shutting them down in Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:47:04 You can give your bullpen, which isn't great. arrest in game one, that's, I don't have to, I can be a baseball casual. That feels like just keep him in. I mean, hard to explain, but it's analytics. These days, a lot of stuff comes from upstairs. And the Dodgers now, I mean, they win tonight.
Starting point is 00:47:23 The series is ostensibly over. So Kansas City beat the Raiders 27 to 20. Like all Kansas City wins, it wasn't pretty. But what the chiefs have done, they now control, The moments that control football games. Opening drive, they take a lead. Touchdown.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Well, you win 63% of the time. Raiders get a pick. They have to make a big defensive stand. Kansas City holds on fourth down. Big moment. They were great on third down all day. Not on first down or second down, but on third down they were 12 or 16. In the fourth, when they want to seal it, they force Minchew into a fumble, and they can seal the game, and they do.
Starting point is 00:48:06 And this is now what Kansas City does. They're not great the entire game, but when they need in big moments to be excellent, opening drive, big defensive stand, create a turnover or a stop, and then score immediately after the stop. They have perfected the moments. All their games now look the same. It could be the bad Raiders or the good Niners. They all look the same. Even against Brock Pretty the week before. They didn't outplay San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:48:36 go the entire game. But in the biggest moments, your opening drive, your big stop, a big fourth or third down, they're just a well-oiled machine. I mean, there were moments in that game yesterday, and the Raiders are hanging around, and you're like, but in the big moments, the Raiders disappoint you. And in the big moments, Kansas City, you know, it's like being the president. You have a lot of speeches. You just got to get one right, the state of the union.
Starting point is 00:49:01 You got to get that one right. If you get the state of the union, you can miss up on a lot of Tuesdays and Wednesdays and June when nobody cares. State of the Union you want to nail. And that's what the Chiefs have become. I mean, I was seeing this this morning. The Chiefs, this is funny, have a worse point differential than the Denver Broncos.
Starting point is 00:49:19 And they're 7 and 0. So it's not just, it's not what you do in the NFL, it's when you do it. It's very reminiscent. Said this a month ago. They're becoming the Patriots. You're not sure if they have the best talent.
Starting point is 00:49:34 You're not sure. Even on that Sunday, if they're the best team, but on a big third, a big fourth, a big moment, a big goal line stand, they'll outsmart you, out-hit you, and outperform you, and that's what they've done. They have now taken over. They're the best big moment team in the NFL. And it's like a lot of these big moments happen in the Super Bowl or the AFC West champion, or AFC championship. I mean, yesterday is just the Raiders, but I'm sitting there watching it,
Starting point is 00:50:01 and it's like never once that I think for a second, Raiders were going to win this game. That wasn't a second I thought that. And even though the Raiders, for all their issues, play hard. They hit hard, they play hard, they give you great effort. But in the big moments, they don't step up. Kansas City always does. J-Mack. So it's weird.
Starting point is 00:50:22 I'm looking at the Chief Schedule, Colin. So they're 7-0. Okay, they play Tampa this week. I already bet them their 9-point favorites. Tampa, not good. So they'll be 8-0. Then they play Denver at home. I'm sorry they're going to beat Bo Nix.
Starting point is 00:50:33 Okay? So now they're 9-0. if they get by that game against Buffalo on the road, when are they losing? And here's the craziest part of it. I don't even think the Chiefs are one of the three best teams in the league right now. And I know that's a hot take, but I'm telling you, the Detroit Lions are better than the Kansas City Chiefs right now.
Starting point is 00:50:49 Baltimore and Buffalo are better teams than the Chiefs. Well, remember. But they're potentially going to be like 12 at 0. The problem with Baltimore, though, they have a fatal flaw. As much as I like them, what concerns you about Baltimore, they are really bad on the back end of their defense. Two guys were down yesterday. Yeah, so they can outplay you.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Yesterday I didn't worry too much about it. They can outplay you. This is something you and I talked about. The team in the league that's fascinating is Washington. Yeah. Do they make a move at the trade deadline to go get a top corner? By the way, right now, Jacksonville has their best corner. Tyson Campbell, back from injury.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Go get Tyson. Jacksonville's in a rebuild. What about Tennessee with Legerius Sneed? Tennessee is the, I mean, they are horrific. and Sneed went from being in the Super Bowls to being on like a one and an awful team. Why don't you just make a play for? You're not paying Jaden Daniels for four years.
Starting point is 00:51:42 I mean, there are very few, you know, Payne makes money, McLaurin. There's not a lot of guys in Washington you couldn't shed to go get a top corner. And you may- Horn in Carolina? Carolina's bad. J.C. Horn talking trash to Sean Payton. Did you see that at midfield after the game?
Starting point is 00:51:56 Why are you running a fake field goal up by a million? I don't know. There's some cornerbacks out there on the market, though, that could be interesting to Washington. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Hey, I'll throw another one at you. Sauce Gardner. DJ Reed? Free agent after the season?
Starting point is 00:52:08 Yeah. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel. Help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Those people are starving for banter. Listen to Humor Me with Robert Smigel and friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds.
Starting point is 00:53:00 I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, this is Robert from the Stuff to Blow Your Mind podcast. Joe and I are both lifelong Star Wars fan, so we're celebrating May the 4th with a brand new week of fun, thought-provoking Star Wars-related episodes. Join us as we tackle science and culture topics from a galaxy far, far away, such as the biology of tauntons and wampas on the ice planet hot, or the practicality and corporate business sense of the Sith rule of time. Listen to Stuff to Bo Your Mind on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win.
Starting point is 00:53:42 I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifers Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to the Clifford show on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok.
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Starting point is 00:54:32 It was a wild year. It was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.

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