The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - Davante Adams is a Jet

Episode Date: October 15, 2024

BREAKING NFL NEWS: The Jets are acquiring WR Davante Adams following their loss to the Bills on Monday night The Cowboys are in a downward spiral and owner Jerry Jones is not happy about itSee omnystu...dio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:19 Thanks for Megan as part of your day. The Jets have officially, boy, they own Tuesdays. They're firing coaches are making moves. Devante Adams from the Raiders has been traded to the Jets. Conditional third round pick. He's expensive. That's what you're going to get. J. Mack, hopefully he can kick, too.
Starting point is 00:03:39 They need a kicker. If he can kick and catch passes, they're in good shape. Charleston's stopping the run. That would be outstanding. They couldn't stop the run last night. Well, you let go of Robert Salah, who's a great defensive coach, and suddenly the defense did not look as good as we think it should look. Shocker, Colin.
Starting point is 00:03:54 All right. So here we go. The New York Jets feeling a little desperate, make a move today. I don't think it's a bad thing. This will eventually turn into a positive rant for the Jets, but let's start here. Aaron Rogers, now with Devante Adams, has officially gotten everything he wanted in New York. He got his buddy Nat Hackett the offensive coordinator. He got Randall Cobb.
Starting point is 00:04:14 He got Alan Lazzard. He got Dalvin Cook. That didn't work. Some think he wanted Robert Solofired. We can't confirm that. Now he's got Devante Adams. But I said this now. now it's Aaron's team
Starting point is 00:04:27 and Aaron doesn't love taking the blame and last night after his interception listen very carefully do his words on what happened on that play there's two verticals you know Allen's down the seam Mike's down the redline
Starting point is 00:04:45 so I'm looking at Alan he puts his hand up three guys to go with him so I'm throwing a no look to the red line and when I just peeked my eyes back there he's running an endbreaker. So, it's got to be down the red line. All right, got to be down the red line.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Since leaving Green Bay, Aaron's been living his truth, and the truth is it's not pretty. The only wins are against Jacoby Brissette and Will Levis. He was awful against San Francisco, terrible against Denver, and lousy against Minnesota. That's the truth.
Starting point is 00:05:17 That's what we continue to see. And Aaron, he wanted Nat Hackett. So everything he's wanted, he's gotten. He's the savior. And, you know, he's remodeling his career. And as he looks at the Jets House, he realizes the one in Green Bay left behind, pretty nice setup. So, you know, Green Bay for years, Aaron could say, you know, point fingers, frugal, small market, no owner, not going to spend the big bucks. A little passive aggressive shots. Well, now he's in big city, New York.
Starting point is 00:05:51 The coach is fired. His buddy's been demoted. Mike Williams to blame. And now here comes to Vante Adams. So here's another truth. I looked this up this morning. Aaron Rogers this season, after last night is 26th in completion percentage and 26th in passer rating. And the older a quarterback gets, the harder you have to work. Like Tom Brady and Aaron's off-season increasingly are a darkness retreat meets Coachella.
Starting point is 00:06:20 That's not good enough. Here is the good news. Hassan Reddick may be coming. Devante Adams is coming. If you look at the Jet Schedule, they developed a run game last night. They started using motion in the offense. Go look at the Jet Schedule. There's a lot of wins.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Now, if you go 2 and 4 to start a season, you only have 11% chance to make the playoffs. But these are the quarterbacks they face in the next two months. Justin Fields, Drake May. Anthony Richardson, Geno Smith, Trevor Lawrence is struggling. They do face Houston at home, and it's on a short week for the Texan, so maybe that's a break. And the other good news is the Jets last night, without Hackett, and a new play designer and caller, 73% pre-stap motion. That is three times greater than the previous week with Nat Hackett.
Starting point is 00:07:17 So they found a run game. They appear to have a confident offensive coordinator. Hassan Reddick, maybe Devante Adams, absolutely. So I will stick. Despite that loss last night, yes, yes, Mike Williams slipped. Yes, they mixed kicks. So do the bills. But I'm going to stick with my preseason prediction.
Starting point is 00:07:41 The Jets and the Dolphins, Buffalo will win this division. The Jets and the Dolphins will battle in week 7. and 18 for the final playoff spot. Hassan Reddick, Devante Adams, looks like a run game, capable OC, and the Devante Adams move beyond that
Starting point is 00:08:00 puts Aaron in a good mood. I think it helps the locker room. The problem when you go two and four is players bail. Guys start pointing fingers. You'd prefer it wasn't your quarterback doing it last night. But I think Devante Adams gives them some
Starting point is 00:08:16 juice. They got some Drake Mays coming up, some Anthony Richards, some very winnable games. I do not think the season is lost for the Jets. I'll get into the game and the officiating and the bills in a second. But Devante Adams is coming to town. I don't know if he means. I thought the Jets were a nine-win team after last night before they got Devante Adams. With a run game.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Now, their defense isn't as good now because they lost their best defensive coach. They fired him. And the offense is better now because Aaron's buddy has been demoted. So last night, proving coaching matters, we will see if Devante Adams matters. But I think the Jets are going to get to nine wins with or without Devonte. So the Cowboys were the embarrassment of not only the league, but of Jerry Jones. He's owned the franchise since 1989. They were ambushed, crushed by Detroit.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Biggest game on national TV yesterday or the day before on Sunday. And it was the worst loss for Jerry Jones in his career at home. And that's saying something because the first year he owned the team, they went one in 15. So Jerry Jones, a very proud man, was embarrassed after the game. And this morning, he showed up on Dallas Radio, 105.3, the fan in Dallas.
Starting point is 00:09:31 And I could play about 20 minutes of this stuff. I'll give you about 30 seconds. It got very contentious with the hosts. There was a lot of criticism that you guys didn't add, didn't spend, and don't add, and don't spend, and are not aggressive enough. Oh, I remember it. those criticisms very well. Okay, so what?
Starting point is 00:09:51 Are they playing out to be accurate? What's your point? What's your point? Now, if you think I'm interested in a phone call with you over radio and sitting here and throwing all the good out with the dishwasher, you have got to be smoking something over there this morning. This is not your job. Your job isn't to let me go over all the reasons that I did something and I'm sorry that I did it. That's not your job. Well, my job is to ask what. Or I'll get another, I'll get somebody else to ask these questions, man.
Starting point is 00:10:24 So it's a very proud and embarrassed man with a lot of ego and vanity, but frankly, Jerry Jones has gotten in the way of Jerry Jones. Say this out loud. An 82-year-old owner slash GM slash spokesperson. Does it sound like it's going to be elite? And here's the thing. Cowboys have been fooling a lot of media and a lot of fans for the last two to three years because the NFC has been down the last two or three years. But now Green Bay's young players are more mature and Detroit's kind of young players are good.
Starting point is 00:11:02 And Minnesota's a surprise. And Washington's got a star quarterback now. And Chicago's got a star quarterback now. And the NFC is looking like the AFC when Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, And Mahalms kind of broke into the AFC. And all of a sudden, you're looking around going, oh, it's not the same neighborhood now. NFC's good. NFC's got five of the top ten teams, maybe the six of the top ten teams in the league now.
Starting point is 00:11:28 In the last couple of years, the NFC's been down. Quarterbacks got old. Aaron Rogers goes to the next conference. It was down. And DAC has made a living. 24 and 4, I think it is against the Giants in Washington. Well, the Giants aren't a pushover now, and Washington's got the next Lamar Jackson. So they've been fooling people with these.
Starting point is 00:11:45 regular season, 12 win campaigns and DAC beating up on all the non-playoff teams. Those days are over. NFC now is stacked. San Francisco's good. Green Bay is good. Minnesota good. Detroit good. Chicago good.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Atlanta good. Tampa Bay good. Philadelphia could be good if they had the right coach. So, you know, until Jera realizes Jera is the problem, nothing's going to change here. NFLGM is not a part-time gig. I know NFL GMs. you get like two weeks vacation. There's no yacht time.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Like it is a 60 hour a week job. And by the way, some of that bleeds into the off season. 70 hours a week, if you're talking about like draft week, free agency week, can't have 48 businesses. So Jerry got Jimmy Johnson out of there and they don't want to hire a tier one coach. And they don't want to hire a tier one GM. and so I don't have any tears or empathy for Jerry Jones. You created this mess. Go ahead and fire the radio hosts.
Starting point is 00:12:50 I mean, that's not the answer. Firing radio hosts is not the answer. The answer is get out of your own way. The really smart rich guys understand sometimes they don't know everything. They shouldn't be a spokesperson, a GM, an owner, a part-time coach. That's not what he should be doing. So, yeah, I mean, that interview got very, contentious. In what last night was a game? Now everybody's blaming the officiating
Starting point is 00:13:18 today and it was not one of the great officiated games, but I will say this. In the standalone games, Monday night, Sunday night, I have found through the years that the officials and the league knows everybody's watching. The whole league is watching and they make a point of being fairly strident on things they want to send messages like do not lean in your shoulder to a quarterback. Do not pile on. So there were a couple of, you know, quarterback late hit unnecessary roughness stuff that I thought were nonsense. One against the bills, one against the Jets. I didn't like either of them. The league in these standalone games, they do this in the preseason sometimes, where they want to send messages to the
Starting point is 00:14:05 coaching staffs and players. They over-call things. Now, I didn't think those should have been called last night. They go either way calls, but I do think in standalone games, I have seen this for years. They know every coach and every defensive coordinator and every defensive lineman is watching. You pile on to that quarterback, hit him a half second
Starting point is 00:14:25 late. They are throwing a flag because every coach watched that last night goes into the meeting today with his players and he shows you those clips and says, don't do that. So the league has always done that a little bit in my opinion in big TV standalone games. All right, some thoughts on the
Starting point is 00:14:41 game last night. Nick Seriani's apologizing. The Jets, through a trade, third round pick conditional, have acquired Devante Adams. So I have this team at nine wins, just missing the playoffs, but in it till week 1718.
Starting point is 00:14:56 I don't think Devonte Adams necessarily change anything. I don't think he is what he was two, three years ago, but I will say, again, I think it adds juice. It makes Aaron happy, and that's, Aaron gets dark really quick. I mean, he goes dark, really fast.
Starting point is 00:15:14 And I think this will lift him up. It'll be positive. The schedule, to me, is weak outside of the Houston game over the next six games. So not all is lost in New York. J-MAC may be down today. That's okay. J-MAC may be down today. But I do think, and I said this this morning,
Starting point is 00:15:33 I had written some notes down for this show that were very positive before the Devante Adams move. So it's going to take him a couple of games to get ramped up. You know, you're not going to walk in this Sunday and dominate the league. But I do think it's an emotional move, not just a personnel move that I think when you're two and four, locker room split. You know, they always used to joke about this in baseball. You've got 25 guys.
Starting point is 00:15:56 You want 10. You got to keep the five that are undecided from the 10 that hate you and the 10 that love you in a baseball locker room when you go into a losing streak. And in the NFL, you go 2 and 5, you're not making the playoffs. You go 2 and 4. You got 11% chance. The key is, do you feel good about your opportunities? And I think Devante makes you go, hey, we got Garrett Wilson, we got DeVante, Fries Hall now running, Aaron Rogers.
Starting point is 00:16:20 I think it lifts the room up. Well, we'll see about the hamstring injury. You know, I mean, it's been two weeks. Hopefully the hamstring's fine. But, Colin, I'm very surprised that you're giving Aaron Rogers something of a pass this morning. Two weeks ago in London. He was terrible. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Six-point game, you get the ball. This is why you add Aaron Rogers in the offseason. to go win these games. He throws an interception targeting Mike Williams. Last week he was terrible. Last night gets the ball, forget the penalties, the miss kicks, gets the ball, three minutes left at home. Hey, this is why we got a superstar quarterback. Drive the field, get us the points, get us the win.
Starting point is 00:16:54 He throws an interception targeting Mike Williams. So last week, Rogers covered it up by getting Sala fired. I don't care what anybody says. We know Rogers was involved in that. So how do you cover up another Rogers failure? Go get Devante Adams. You know he talked to the owner last night for sure. He had to have.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Colin, this Aaron Rogers experiment is going south. Very, very. I mean, people want to defend them, but. No, no. I'm saying. Back to that trade, we'd see failed. I actually think if the Jets were a stock, they are so beaten up today, they're a buy. The Jets are a buy today.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Okay. A total buy. That's fine. They should also be four and two. Maybe five and one that Broncos game, again, Rogers couldn't drive the field. It was raining. The kicker missed. fine. But that Nat Hackett
Starting point is 00:17:39 was the coordinator. He's out now. Yeah, that's fair. If you watched last night, that was like a real modern NFL offense with motion and stuff, and they ran the ball. The offense can be fine now. Well, the blitz, Buffalo barely blitzed. You did see, when they did blitz, they sacked him three times. Jets cannot handle the
Starting point is 00:17:55 blitz. Vikings, Broncos, murdered the jets with the blitz. Last night, a lot of four-man rush. Rogers just, okay, I can handle this. Colin, you sound a little bit like a fan that's disgruntly. I don't know, Pittsburgh Steelers. You want to see it?
Starting point is 00:18:09 You think they're blitzing? Highsmith is coming back. We'll see about her big. One of my favorite bets of the week, the Jets with Devante against the Steelers. You sure Devante's playing? Oh, he'll play. I love the optimism. It'll be red zone stuff, but he'll play.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Okay, we got a lot to discuss here. Devante Adams now a jet. Have I ever been this positive? I mean, what a joyful human being. I'd just out there sprinkles on the cupcakes. It's just everything's good today. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd. Weekdays at noon Eastern 9 a.m.
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Starting point is 00:22:43 Search Learn the Hardway and listen now. All right, welcome back. Bills Beat the Jets 2320. Devante Adams has been traded to the Jets. I just talked about that. We'll talk about that more later in 40 minutes from now. my herd hierarchy. I think it's the strongest we've had.
Starting point is 00:22:59 There's some real teams here. This weekend, the best quarterback, starting with last Thursday, Brock Purdy over Gino, and last night, Josh over Aaron, the best quarterback won every single game this weekend. That's what we said going into this week. We said there's going to be sort of a separation between the halves and have-nots. The bad teams now know they're bad guys start bailing in locker rooms, although I don't think the two-and-four jets will.
Starting point is 00:23:26 I think they're going to be viable. But the best quarterback won every game this weekend. So I want to go back to this game. Take out the Hail Mary. You know, any star quarterback gets a few of those in his career. Even Aaron, the all-time leaders, you know, every five or six years he has a Hail Mary. Those are about 90% luck and breaks. Take that game out.
Starting point is 00:23:44 There were four huge plays late in this game, and the Bills made all of them. The first play was late, late, late third quarter. The Bills secondary tied at 20. Aaron hits Garrett Wilson for the go-ahead touchdown. And Taylor Rapp, a very physical, often hurt because he's so physical, safety from Washington, bang, knocks the ball out. Big time play, forces a field goal, and the Jets miss it. That was a touchdown 2720.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Now it's still 20-20. Now we go. Second big play. Jets driving. It is a big second 16. This would have been a first down, and Taylor Rapp again blows the point. playup. Huge, huge play. That forces on this play, the interception by Teron Johnson. That may be the closest thing to Ed Reed that I've seen in years. A beautiful interception. That sets up
Starting point is 00:24:40 the fourth play. I'll watch the interception again. You can say that's the Taylor Rat play. Then there is the interception. The fourth play, when the bills get the ball back. on the third and four, Josh Allen appears to call his own number and gets the first down. So Josh Allen, Taron Johnson, two Taylor Raps, in the last half hour of real time to 40 minutes, there were four huge plays, and the Buffalo Bills, like the Kansas City Chiefs or Ravens in these big games, made all of them. Taylor Rapp, Teran Johnson, Josh Allen. Those are game-changing plays.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Here is Josh Allen after. Fighting through adversity, getting in a half time, regrouping, saying let's just control one plate of time. You know, we didn't score as many points in that second half as I'd like, but found a way. Okay, and again, you can blame the officials. But Denver, Aaron Rogers, was going for the lead and the win, missed a field goal.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Minnesota, going for the win. Aaron, bad pick. Buffalo, wide receiver slips. Ball appears to be underthrown. Great play by the defender. You can point fingers. All you want. Opportunities there, three straight weeks.
Starting point is 00:26:01 So there were four crucial plays. And that's what Kansas City does. You hang around with Kansas City, and all of a sudden, it's a big play by Chris Jones, a great play by somebody on the corner, and Mahomes has a run to pick up a first down. That is a chief's game. So, and Josh Allen, I mean, that kid, that kid is just, I mean, we are so lucky right now between Mahomes and Lamar and Josh Allen. These guys are all time.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Mahomes, the best I've ever seen. Lamar's the best running quarterback I've ever seen. And Josh may be the best pure size, arm, and talent and running I've ever seen together. So you've got to make plays in these big games. And against Denver, Minnesota, and Buffalo, the New York Jets didn't. And last night, the Bills did. J. Mack with the news. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Turn on the news. This is the... heard line news. Well, if the Devante Adams' breaking news wasn't enough, something's going on in Pittsburgh right now, Colin. Tom Pellasaro is reporting the Steelers' plan to give Russell Wilson first team reps in practice this week, with Mike Tomlin adding that Russ is in consideration to start week seven
Starting point is 00:27:12 against the New York Jets. Colin, this is a bit of a shocking development. We knew Russ was going to be in the mix, but like, Pittsburgh's 4 and 2. This is a huge game against the Jets in the conference And you're going to maybe dump fields? I'm going to give the Steelers credit. So they are a defensive culture. Kenny Pickett got him to the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:27:32 They moved off him. They have a 4-and-2 record just win. Are they going to move off him? So I'm going to give Mike Tomlin credit. He's not tone deaf. He moved off quarterbacks with winning records, getting me into the playoffs, winning games. A lot of coaches won't do that.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Pete Carroll stuck with Gino Smith. He's good enough. what Mike Tomlin's saying with Kenny Pickett. He's not good enough. What he's saying with Justin Fields, we can do better. And I will tell you, what it tells me is he is leaning on Arthur Smith a little bit here. And Arthur's saying, I mean, Mike may be saying, hey, we've got to be winning these games. Like, we handed Dallas a win, and Arthur's probably saying privately, I'm doing all we can do here.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Wow. So you're kind of endorsing this? It's not even an endorsement. It's an acknowledgement of what the Steelers, I wasn't sure they were capable. of this. Yesterday I did a rant on their four and two. We got our guy. It's not sustainable.
Starting point is 00:28:26 We would agree. It's not a sustainable method to win in the NFL big time. I'll tell you right now, if you're the New York Jets defense, you'd rather see Russell Wilson than Justin Fields. Justin Fields can break the pocket, scramble for 15, 20 yards a pop. Did you notice without Robert Sallow, the Jets defense was a little leaky last night? Against the run, yeah. You left the best coach in the organization.
Starting point is 00:28:48 The honors ran all over them. I mean, listen, bottom line is like. Bring on Russell Wilson. I think that's good news for the Jets. My guess is, and I'm seeing their favorite here by one and a half. I think the Jets are probably the side here if Russell Wilson starts. I'm not doubting him, but I'm just not afraid of us. There are three games this week I love.
Starting point is 00:29:05 Rams off a by, Jets against the Steelers, and Minnesota off a buy against Detroit. Those are lock them in right now. I already told you, I locked in the Rams number yesterday at 5. Now with Devante Adams out, that number will go up. We don't know if he's going to play yet, but I do need to ask, what does this potentially do to the locker room who we know likes Justin Fields and Russ has a bit of a recent history? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:29:33 This is a risky move by Tomlin, man. He usually has a good feel for his team. He's one of the great coaches in the league, but Colin, this feels, oh boy. I got to tell you something. Makes you want to watch that Steeler game. Well, you're going to watch Steelers. I'm going to watch it anyway, but it's interesting. I mean, it is very hard to bench a very liked player off a win when you have a winning record.
Starting point is 00:29:58 It's like firing Sala when you know if you win the next game you're in first place over Buffalo, a four years in a row, four years in succession. I think they've won the AFC East. Like, what are you doing? Sala wins this game. I think last night was Sala. They would have won the game if he would have been allowed to demote Nat Hackett, which apparently got him fired.
Starting point is 00:30:19 I think Sala's the best coach they have. I'm stunned at this Tomlin stuff. All right. Next up, Colin, Sunday on Fox, big Super Bowl rematch. Niners hosting the Chiefs in America's Game of the Week. KC. beat Sanford in the Super Bowl. Excuse me. Game winning touchdown in overtime.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Trent Williams is downplaying the revenge angle. Hmm. It's another game. I mean, it's not like we can get paid back for losing that in Super Bowl. That ship is sell. So it's another game. We got to come out and try to play complimentary football. We got to, obviously we know what type of team that is.
Starting point is 00:30:55 One of the best teams in the league. You know, all-star quarterback, you know, great coach. So it's going to be a tough game. Can you imagine he moves out to the left and you're a cornerback and here comes Trent Williams to block you? That guy is a house. I think it's more than just that. I think the game feels, it feels big. It's a big stage with two great teams.
Starting point is 00:31:18 I think the Niners are going to win that game. I think Kansas City's been playing with fire for too long. I think at some point you can't play these close games time after time after time. Chiefs are coming off the by, right? Reid has some time to cook up some stuff, get Kareem Hunt on the right page and Ju-Ju-Jew-Smith. They still don't have Rishie Rice. Well, I get him anytime soon.
Starting point is 00:31:42 I did just look up some stats because I'm a fantasy nerd. You want to guess who the worst team is in the league? defending tight end so far this year? Kansas City? Yeah. Their linebackers stink. So this could be a big George Kittle game, and we know over the middle of the field,
Starting point is 00:31:56 Shanahan's offense loves to eat. So you're probably right. It's just... The last five times I bet Kansas City against them, I've lost, and it's been over like four years. I don't bet the Chiefs very much. I don't mess with them. I just don't.
Starting point is 00:32:11 So you're tempting fate here. Well, yeah, I mean, I just... If you can watch who I bet, I find three or four or five teams in the league that I feel, I tend to find really good quarterback play. Last week, I bet all the best quarterbacks. In fact, I thought the bills would win last night, I predicted, but I took the Jets and the points. The best quarterback won every game this week.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Now, that's not going to continue on because Brock Purdy is also better than a lot of the bad quarterbacks that lost. But you get to about week five, six, seven, everybody starts figuring out. We've all got film on everybody, and the bad team start realizing you start losing guys. Hey, wonder if some teams are going to start to pack it in, you know, has already started thinking about the offseason. Final story, Colin, is the Major League Baseball playoffs. Good day to be a New Yorker.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Mets beat the Dodgers. Lindor hit a lead-off Homer and Mark Vientos hit a Grand Slam. Yep. Wasn't a great night for the Yankees initially and then boom. Carlos Rodon with the gem and Stanton and Soto both Homer. Yankees win game won. The A LCS. I watched the Mets game and let's be honest about that.
Starting point is 00:33:14 The Dodgers went with another bullpen. night or afternoon where they pitched bullpen guys. It worked against the Padres. The Mets had their number two starter up there. It was not going to work against the Mets. That game was over in like the third inning. So, yeah, I mean, it's, it's, I think the Yankees are going to end up in the World Series. I think the Dodgers Mets, I think it's better for baseball if the Dodgers.
Starting point is 00:33:34 And I think the Dodgers will win this series, but I think it's really, really a good series. And I think they beat Philadelphia. Philadelphia doesn't have six Hall of Famers on it. If the Dodgers had a healthy staff, I think they would fly through the this series, but I do think, you know, you just, you've got to cross your fingers on the health of the remaining pitchers you have if you're the Dodgers. And I'm going to take them deep into the series, though. Yankees, Dodgers would probably be the most anticipated world series since. There was a subway series years ago that everybody in the media thought would be a big hit,
Starting point is 00:34:03 and at the time it was the lowest rated world series. It's kind of a dud. It's too much, it's too regional. You have to go back to like what, the Cubs in the World Series or the Red Side? Like, it's been a while since you've had a marquee matchup like this, right? Well, the Yankees haven't won yet. I don't, yeah. They're fine. Well, I think they're going to be fine. This is Dodgers.
Starting point is 00:34:21 I'm a little worried about it. You know, it's just so funny. New York is so hard on their coaches and their managers. The truth is Aaron Boone's going to end up in a World Series probably. Jay Bowles, excellent for the Giants. Tom Tibadoe, say what you want. That team, nobody played harder than the Knicks. very quickly, New York sports teams have gone from unwatchable and embarrassing to kind of good and kind of interesting.
Starting point is 00:34:52 My take on the Jets last night was, oh, they ran motion. It was like a modern off. I was like, oh, this is a real offense. If the defense is 80% of what it was, based on what I saw last night, they had 73% pre-snap motion. The previous week with Hackath had 25. That's like high school. One of the key plays you left off made by Taylor Rap, when Bruce Hall broke that, run down the sideline? I thought he was gone. I'm erupting the family's like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:35:16 finally. And Taylor Rap comes out of nowhere and took the perfect angle and stopped him. And guess what? Jets end up with no points there. Like it's like Taylor Rap is a very, kind of a John Lynch, maybe not best in coverage, but an incredibly physical play. That's why it's banged up all the time. He sacrifices his body on hits. And those, those were two huge plays by him in this late third, early four. And you want to mention Josh, being so smart. How about this? He did not throw at Sauce Gardner pretty much all night. Just said, I'm not, what am I attempting fate? I'm not going to go there. Smart play game by Josh Allen. He was good. First of all, it was a wildly entertaining game.
Starting point is 00:35:54 You can complain about the officials, but it added drama. It was good, bad football, right? Miss field goals, miss extra point, 22 penalties. You also get, you get into the Northeast, Chicago East, it's October. It's October. It gets windy and cold, and you're going to, special teams is going to be a circus. Yeah. J. Mac with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by.
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Starting point is 00:37:03 Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what you're saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined.
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Starting point is 00:38:02 Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok Podcast Network on TikTok. Hey, this is Robert from the Stuff to Blow Your Mind podcast. Joe and I are both lifelong Star Wars fan, so we're celebrating May the 4th with a brand new week of fun, thought-provoking Star Wars-related episodes. Join us as we tackle science and culture topics from a galaxy far, far away, such as the biology of taun tons and wampas on the ice planet hot,
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Starting point is 00:39:07 waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not. just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack. So I'm starting to see that there's a through line. We also have AIDS on the table right now. Thank you finishing that sentence. I don't think there's a more important year for black people.
Starting point is 00:39:31 Really? Yeah. For me, it's one of the most important years for black people in American history. Listen to look back at it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get Your podcasts. Welcome to my new podcast, learn the hard way with me, your host, and your favorite therapist,
Starting point is 00:39:47 Kear Games. And in recognition of Mental Health Awareness Month, I'm bringing over a decade of my own experience in the mental health field and conversations with so many incredible guests. I'm talking, Tripp Fontaine, Ryan Clark. Sometimes when we're in the pursuit of the thing, we get so wrapped up in the chase
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Starting point is 00:40:36 on my new podcast, learn the hard way. Open your free iHeartRadio app. Search learn the hard way and listen now. It's game three of the NLCS. With the series tied at one game apiece, Otani and the Dodgers look to fight back while Lindor and the Mets. Aimed to take control.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Coverage begins at 7 p.m. Eastern, 4 p.m. Pacific tomorrow on FIS 1. So I told you we didn't love, in fact, we thought it was ridiculous. Nick Seriani Eagles coach, who's done this before, but knowing he's on the hot seat, on a buy, so we heard the radio people and the media people clobber and all week in Philadelphia at home starts haunting and jousting with the fans as they play Cleveland. Embarrassing, I had said yesterday, he's going to get called into the office.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Jeffrey Lurie, Howie Roseman, that is not going to fly with the Eagles organization. That is not his job. He doesn't even know what his role is. I mean, security guy, Big Dome knows what his role is. This guy apparently doesn't, and here he apologizes. apologized for this move. I was trying to bring energy yesterday, energy enthusiasm yesterday, and I'm sorry and disappointed on how my energy was directed at the end of the game.
Starting point is 00:41:52 And, you know, my energy should be all in on coaching, motivating, right, and celebrating with our guys. I wanted to bring energy. Okay, we're going to do a new segment called Stadium DJ or Head Coach. Who said it? I want to bring new big energy. What are you doing? We got a breakup coming.
Starting point is 00:42:17 We got a breakup coming. And right before breakups, one of the people in the relationship starts acting weird, shave the head, jousting with fans, bring your kids to the podium. And years later, you look at it and you're kind of embarrassed. Here's the reality of this team. He's an offensive coach. Now think about this. The lions, the chargers, and the Titans.
Starting point is 00:42:39 had offensive coaches and were all on a buy. They all scored touchdowns and took a lead in the first quarter. That's what offensive coaches do in a buy. Andy Reid, McBade this week on a buy facing the Raiders. They'll have a very nice first quarter. The Eagles in a buy with a loaded stack roster with their two-star receivers back. First two drives. Jalen Hertz O' for five, two punts.
Starting point is 00:43:02 Against Cleveland, a team that's quit. So the last 20 years, teams that haven't scored in the first quarter through five games. Philadelphia is the only team in the league. One has made the playoffs. The Jets 20 years ago, 18 years ago. So that's the reality. Offensive coaches off a buy,
Starting point is 00:43:22 almost always early in a game, they put in some tricks. You see what Andy Reid does off a buy, McVeigh, Shanahan. It's just not good enough. This thing ain't working. So the big story today
Starting point is 00:43:37 is that DeVonte Adams has been acquired. Ian Rappaport broke the story. Devante Adams, Raiders, who, let's be honest, Raiders want to finish with a number one pick and probably go get a Shadour Sanders, go get a quarterback. Shadour to me, separated from the rest of
Starting point is 00:43:53 college football. I thought he had a great weekend against the good team. I don't know, does Devante Adams make you great? Well, they have an interim coach. So your interim coach is not going to go toe to toe in the playoffs with John Harbaugh, Andy Reed, and outdo
Starting point is 00:44:08 them. So I think interim coaches take you out of the Super Bowl conversation in the better conference. The other thing to consider here with Aaron Rogers, he's getting beat up. Bad knee, bad ankle. So I do think that Devonte Adams makes the
Starting point is 00:44:24 Jets more interesting. But if you're 2 and 4, you only have 11% chance to make the playoffs. I think the Jets are better than 11% chance to get there, mostly because New England's the worst team in the league and two is not playing for Miami. So if this was, if the Jets were in, you know,
Starting point is 00:44:44 the NFC North, seasons over, the seasons over. There are divisions, the season's over. I think the Jets, Miami, I mean, if two has heard again, they may just move off him and swallow that contract. So, and New England, we all know the story here. They're drafting one or two or three. I, I predicted nine and eight. I will say this. I said this this morning. morning. So the Jets are two and four. I'll give you the seven games. I think the Jets are going to win. I'll give you the schedule right now. I think they're going to beat Pittsburgh at Pittsburgh. That's going to be a win. I think they're going to beat New England at New England for obvious reasons. Houston is a go-either-way game. C.J. Stroud, if Joe Mixen plays, I would take Houston.
Starting point is 00:45:33 I also think Arizona there is hit or miss. Arizona can be Buffalo or they can be Carolina. They're all over the map. I think they beat the Colts at home. They get a buy and host the Seahawks. That's a win. I think they lose at Miami, but beat them in week 18. I also think they beat Carolina and probably beat the Rams they host. I don't think they're winning at Buffalo.
Starting point is 00:45:54 So to me, and I don't think this, I don't think I'm being biased for or against. I'm saying they're not going to beat Houston. Arizona scares me at Miami and at Buffalo are tough. But I'll give you a win over McVeigh. I'll give you a win over Mike Tomlin and the Steelers. I think they're going to end up being a 9 and 8 team. And I think that in that AFC, because we don't know what, we thought Cincinnati was going to be good, right? And that's not working out.
Starting point is 00:46:25 And after Houston, who in the AFC South's getting into the playoffs? So whereas in the NFC, every single team in the NFC North is playoff viable today. In the AFC, what you have is dominant teams or favorites winning their division. The wild card, 9, 10 may get you in the AFC. Two is hurt. Miami's. Miami's Rocky. A Jets have a much easier schedule than Miami down the stretch. We think the Chargers could get to 10-11 wins, but boy, now they got both their wide receivers banged up. They just got their tackles back from being banged up.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Chargers have struggled last several years just keeping people healthy. So I think the wild card, I think the teams that win the divisions in the AFC, Buffalo, Houston, Kansas City, I think those teams, and Baltimore. I think those are great teams. I think nine may get you to the wild card. Probably 10, but maybe nine. I would not count the Jets out here. now in the NFC the teams that win the division aren't as good as the AFC
Starting point is 00:47:39 maybe a Philadelphia in Atlanta but but in the NFC the wild card teams are exceptional I mean green bay and Detroit could be wild card teams the Niners could be a wild card team I mean Baker Mayfield would you want to play them how about Washington went toe to toe with the Ravens this week or Philadelphia so I think if the Jets You know, we're in the NFC and we're battling for a wildcard spot. Forget it. The NFC North may get three teams in. They may get three teams in.
Starting point is 00:48:14 So then you only got one wildcard spot left. But in the AFC, I think the Jets can go toe to toe not only with the Buffalo Bills who will win the division, but you could make an argument right now. The Jets are the best, even at 2 and 4, the best wild card team potentially, in the the AFC. I know that's kind of confusing, but I feel like the AFC is top heavy, but a little overrated after that. I think the NFC's a little top light, but really deep, really, really deep have, if Atlanta or Tampa do not get into the playoffs, those are good teams. Those are, I mean, Tampa and Atlanta can go toe to toe with virtually anybody in this league, including Kansas
Starting point is 00:49:01 City. May not win, but they can score points on anybody. So there you go. J-Mack, I cannot believe how positive I have been today. It's a breath of fresh air in America, which is very divisive. I'm very positive today. Just in general, in life about the Jets. I mean, listen, this Jets' Steelers game is enormous. This is a huge swing game with the Steelers 4 and 2 and the Jets 2 and 4.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Pittsburgh's like a wild card contender, even though we don't think they're good. The Jets lose this game. They're now, they don't have the tiebreaker with Pittsburgh, and they're three back in the wild card on? You could just forget the season. You're right. This is the season for the Jets Sunday. Yeah. Hopefully against Russell Wilson because I would much rather face him than Justin.
Starting point is 00:49:42 Well, I would slow down on that. Russell is also elusive and I think makes fewer mistakes than Justin Fields. Fields hasn't made a ton of mistakes. He just wasn't accurate if that makes any sense against the race. Yeah. Well, he's not a great pocket quarterback. He's a great kid and a great athlete. And it's what's interesting.
Starting point is 00:50:03 and he has a great arm. You know, a lot of these guys you watch and you're like, they just don't have the ability to stick it. Like, Justin's got so many things you like. Relatable, coachable, big, big arm, movement. But like a Zach Wilson, we just don't know. Some guys don't see the field quickly.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Then you see a C.J. Stroud, second game in the NFL. You're like, he's like a veteran who's been in the league 10 years. By the way, one last thing on the Jets. You think Salas sitting at home being like, damn, Rogers, you got me fired, and then you brought on your superstar body. You know what I think Sol is saying? I think Saul is saying, the defense was awfully leaky last night.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Defense was awfully leaky last night. Hmm. Sure wasn't the week before against a better offense. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman helped make you funnier.
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Starting point is 00:51:16 Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. in probably 10 days I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:51:46 On the Look Back at it podcast. From 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84's big to me. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors.
Starting point is 00:52:01 Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. Before it was a wild year. It was a wild year. I don't think there's a more important year for black people. Listen to look back at it on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, the Clifford Show. This is a place for Ron. all unfiltered conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok's podcast network on TikTok. Hey, what's good, y'all? You're listening to Learn the Hardway with your
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