The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - Football is king

Episode Date: August 27, 2024

Covino & Rich fill in for Colin as they get ready for football season but Covino tries to convince Rich it's still baseball season They agree there's a consensus among the top 4 QBs in the NFL but can't seem to figure out who number 5 should be   #crshowSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome to the show, Kavino and Rich. In for Colin on the herd. I'm Steve Kavino. That is Rich Davis. We got Super Producer Danny G on the phones, and the number is 818, 817-750. Yeah, give us a call now. Write that number down again. What is it?

818. Okay. 817-7509. Danny G. The producer with the smoothest radio voice, the most buttery radio voice in all the land. So when he answers the phone, don't think it's Barry White or somebody. Hey, it's Danny G. Welcome to the show.

And of course, Tewian Music are here. Spotty's on the videos. You can play along at home at Covino and Rich on social media. Let the Wild Rumpus start. Good morning. Good day. That's the last bookie. read where the wild things are. It's a great book. I want to leave on top, Rich. It's hard to top

that one. So we're going to talk about NFL teams that are hard to predict. The hardest teams to predict this season, I think there's a really obvious answer. Quarterbacks, we'll talk some QBs today, but the quarterbacks you'd least likely to be stuck with. The least you, the ones you want to party with the least. Want to try again? Yeah. The ones you don't want to hang with for the most part because there's a Justin Herbert story. But Rich, I'm very pumped because, well, I'm a Yankees fan. I'm a baseball guy. And as you can see here, they're tops in the ALEs.

They're slaying it. What a fun week of baseball history in the making. You know, we've been ranting about. I've been ranting about if you're not watching Shohei and Judge, then where the hell you at? I'll tell you where you're at. You're like everyone else who is so ready to turn the page. on every other sport because football's here. All right, Bob Seeger.

All right, Metallica. You don't turn the page on baseball unless your team stinks. That's really as simple as it is. You know, it's like my Little League theory. We just passed the Little League World Series. Congrats again to Lake Mary, Florida. Oh, Little League when you picked? No, no, no.

When you sucked. Yeah, and that's where it all started for you. Little League World Series, right? There's a lot of people I talk about, hey man, you watch the Lonely Girl Series and they had this weird resentment toward it. Like, I don't watch that because they have resentful memories because they stunk at Little League and that's why. So when I ask people if they're still watching baseball, you still tuned in.

They're like, nah, man, it's football season. I'm like, no, it's not. It's August. That just means your team stinks and you're resentful about it. The Yankees are in it, but it's not even that. It's not that you're met stink. It's that you just love football more. Be honest about it.

I mean, the world does. I just looked at... I don't think so. I looked at the average ratings for last year's Major League Baseball playoffs across ESPN, Fox, TBS. They were down 8% last year. The average game, 4.4 million viewers. I think I'm never going to debate the ratings

and America's love of football. But I think if you tune out of baseball, it's just because you really don't love the sport as much as you claim to love the sport. You're more of a front-runner mentality. If your Mets were more in it, And they're not out of it, which is embarrassing, too, because they're only three games out of the wild card.

I know. I think it's a little embarrassing that you tune out so quickly. I don't tune out. Let me give you the flip. I said 4 million people watch Major League Baseball playoff games. Yeah. Guess how many people watched the Lions Chiefs NFL kickoff last year? And I'm expecting similar or higher numbers for Ravens Chiefs this year.

What do you think? Take a wild guess. I don't know. Just tell me. I take a guess. 100 million. 500 million. 25 million people.

people. 25 million people versus 4 million. So it's an NFL world buddy boy. Well, again, not here to debate that, but why would you turn the page so fast? Are you the Starbucks of sports? It's like, can we enjoy the summer? The dog days of summer? I say Starbucks. Here's another analogy. You go by Starbucks now. They're pushing fall drinks on you. Pumpkin spice, apple crisp, whatever it is. It's like, yo, dude, it's summer still. Why are you forcing me? I think summer what doesn't end until September 20 something, 22nd. Can we enjoy the dog days of baseball of summertime? Why do you need to turn a page?

And here's my point. If your team is out of it, okay, fine, I get it. You're not as interested. You're seeing Shohei Otani. Grab your kid. Grab him by the year. Sit him down. Hey, little Gregors, you're watching history.

We've never seen anything like this. He's about to go 50-50. And he's primarily a pitcher. This guy's amazing. No one's ever gone 50-50. Think about when you were a kid, how pumped you were about Konseko going 40-40. I will say this. You know, it's interesting.

You're like, I got his weighted rookie. When the Dodger signed Otani for that ridiculous deal, and you're like, wow, the first year he's not ever going to pitch. Is it worth it? He's so good. He's so zoned. I'm exaggerating, but I almost forgot he pitched. Right.

Like, you're like, this guy is going to be a 50-50 guy that you almost forget. Oh, yeah, next year. he's Cy Young level in addition to this. He's on pace for 49 home runs, but I think he could get 50. And that's exciting to watch. Aaron Judge, about to break his own American League home run record. Dues on fire could get the Triple Crown if Witt Jr. gets into a little bit of a slump and he continues to streak.

These are exciting things to care about if your team's out of it. Witnessing Greats, Ruthian numbers. We're talking like Babe Ruth's style of play. players and you're like, nah, football, because your team stinks. But here's my point. There's room for both. Danny G. Please back me up on that. Danny G's a Raiders fan. I know he's pumped about the Raiders.

I know he's pumped about Gardner Minshue. But do you think he's going to turn his back on his Dodgers? Absolutely not. No. And I understand where Rich is coming from because he's a Mets fan. All right. And that's the only reason why he's about to dip out on baseball. If you are used to your team being in postseason contention,

then you are still having half of your brain locked into the MLB. That's all of Rich's brain actually. Let me tell you, I'm about to do freak nasty the dip and dip out of here. Because when I dip you dip, we dip. The Mets are three games out of the wild card. I think if they lose today, today's a day where I'm like, I later. Today might be the day.

How could you claim to be a baseball fan, little on a Mets fan, if you're that quick to jump? Now, I got to quote Rich, because this is what he said off the year. I really think. And it's sort of like painting in broad strokes, too, because you said, I really think football simply just supersedes baseball. Once football, once it kicks in, that's it. Baseball's over.

It's like baseball's not over just because you say so or just because football started. I feel like when we were talking to the, that's ridiculous. When we were talking to Collins' crew, I think Tilly, music, you know, Big Papa Bear Ryan, Big Sexy. Hey, Big Sexy. That's an obvious nickname. Looking sexy today, bro. I think we all agreed that we all love baseball. I'll give you an analogy.

Don't say that if you quit watching. We are filling in for Colin. There's a month left and you're like, I'm done. We're filling it for Colin. So what does Colin do best? Analogies, right? Let me do my best, Colin. Stars attract stars.

Let me give you a Colin. Keep a scorecard at home. This impersonation is going to happen a lot. This is, I'll give you a Colin. baseball is like being at the bar and you're talking to a girl that's a six oh okay now you might want to go home with her

you might see there's some fun there Colin would never say something like that he's too classy baseball's the six that you're sort of okay hanging with then you look at the door and a 12 walks in oh dream weaver

that is the NFL and I'm like yo Baseball, it's been nice. Goodbye! And I dip away to football. She's the 12. Are you sticking around talking to the girl that you have no future with the baseball? What happened to the Rich Davis I met in the early 2000s?

What happened to the Rich Davis that would have said, I could have fun with the 6 and the 12th? I can make a night of this. What happened to that guy? You know what? Yeah, what happened to that dude? I'm just saying. And it goes with what we were saying with Danny G.

He's dropping off kids at school. That's what happened to. Yeah, you could do exactly. What happened to that guy, Rich? Mr. Party guy. You could do both. You don't have to choose. I don't understand why you think you have to choose.

A lot of people feel like they do have to choose. I agree. No, you don't. That's my point. Consider me the old El Paso Tortilla girl. You know the old El Paso tortilla girl? Why don't you just call yourself the Old El Paso Tortilla boy? I might as well be.

There is a very famous commercial, at least in the barrio I grew up in. You grew up in Jersey. I did. I grew up in Union, New Jersey. But there was a commercial growing up and they had this big dilemma of do they want corn or flour tortillas. Corn or flour. It's a big debate. And the little old El Paso tortilla

girl goes, why not both? Why not both? It is ridiculous. It makes me want to strangle you. Are you saying this conversation was solved by little tortilla girl? It pretty much is. Why not both? And the answer, by the way, is flour. If you go for corn, you're lying because you just want to, like,

eat healthier. Like, who would choose a corn tortilla? It is a Taco Tuesday, Rich. Would anyone be a corn voluntarily? I mean, I got a little, I got both. You know what? I have both at home. You really are a little tortilla boy. I'm the tortilla boy. So hold on. I want to make it very clear. If your team's out of it, and Rich's Met's aren't. On the brink. But let's say you're a Rockies fan or a Pirates guy. Yarr, whatever. I just gave you two awesome reasons to tune in. Huge fan of one-eyed Willie.

You know, Sho Hay is doing ridiculous things. These are circus numbers. It's absurd. It's like what Jean-Carlal Stanton said this week, Aaron Judge is out here playing video games. He's like Herman Munster and Pinch Stripes. Every time he connects, every time he hits, everything he hits, he destroys. He makes contact and is gone. And you're like, oh my goodness,

he's going to break his own record. This guy's insane. He's out here playing video games while the rest of us are grinding. He's just that much better than everybody. I'm not sure I've ever seen. I watch baseball. whole life. I don't think I've ever seen anyone as locked in as this dude. And then, in the National

League, you have this superhero by the name of Shoah who's doing ridiculous things. For you to be able to say, no, I quit baseball just because, and by the way, for preseason football, give me a break. Talk about boring. I have it out in the background. I start falling asleep. They're not playing anybody. I'm not saying you should be excited for football. Everybody is. I get that. But let's enjoy the summer. Let's enjoy baseball. while is here. So do you turn the page? Metallica style. I'm sticking about Metallica. Do you turn

the page on baseball and dive right into football? Is that automatic like Rich claims it to be? I think you could still keep your eye on baseball, but I'll go back to my bar analogy. By the way, would you say this if polar bear Pete was here?

He would look at you with disdain, with disgust. That guy's a goobber. At least give me Lindor. If Lindor was here, he'd be like, what kind of Mets fan are you? What country you think this is? So the Mets have, I'll just be selfish for a second and tell you

what I'll determine this on because football starts next week. NFL kickoff is a week and two days away. The Mets play the garbogios, the trashiest terrible team in baseball. They play the White Sox for three games next week.

Over the weekend, actually. While the Braves have to go to Philadelphia. See? If there's like one or two games swing there, then I'm in still. But I always say it, and I can't be the only one. I guarantee there's people that are like, yo, that Rich Davis,

he's on to something. Because I feel like the goal of baseball for a lot of fans is, you know, can you keep me interested at least until football starts? Now, it's a bonus if your team makes a postseason. Yeah, if you're a Dodgers fan like Danny and you're watching Shohei, it'd be ridiculous. And Mukie Betts is back in Freeman and Muncie. and your lineup that's ridiculous.

Or if you got Soto Judge and Stanton hitting belly to belly back to back to back home runs, I get it. But if you're not rooting for an elite baseball team, I think a lot of goals revolve around, hey, could these sports bring me to football? Wow. And I'll credit the Mets. They kept me interested. I'm starting to, you know, lose it now. But with this weekend series coming up against the White Sox, the Mets don't sweep the White Sox in a play. off chase. I'm out.

I think if you do the math, you could say it's a great time to be a sports fan though. Because, I mean, baseball, we grew up with it. You love it. And football, I mean, there is nothing better than football. I'm just saying, enjoy the baseball season while you can because it's synonymous with your summertime. You waited

all year for this time of the year. And you want to fast forward and jump right into the fall. I say relax a little bit. You don't need that pumpkin spice in your life. Not yet. I think with the NFL season interrupt, is a random Angels Tigers game that maybe you'd have on in the background. But if it's a Monday, Thursday, Sunday, even Saturday with college football,

you're not going to have that MLB game on anymore. Your favorite team in baseball, you're not going to sleep on them, but it's the casual, it's the teams we're casually watching that we're not going to pay attention to as much in baseball. As the saying goes, which is true, you could watch any two football teams. You could only watch your baseball team. It's the truth. Who said that?

Unless it's the playoffs. Abe Lincoln? I think it was, you know, no. It was the same goes. It was Rutherford B. Hayes, I believe, said that. I remember. I remember he said that. No, Taff got stuck in a bathtub, right?

It was the president that got stuck in a bathtub. He said that. Yeah. No, that is true. I mean, that is the power of the NFL. You can watch any random game and enjoy it. Take two teams that you think are in your mind boring. Titans.

Seahawks. You could watch a Titan Seahawks game and be fully invested. If I told you right, now, the season kicks off tonight with Titan Sea Hawks. You'd be like, oh, Gino Smith, Will Levis. If I told you tonight, Kvino, you're going to watch the Marlins play the Reds. Not a chance. I'll give you that.

I'll never, I'll never debate that. When it comes to baseball, it is your team. Bro, Elie Daylon Cruz, and I'll be like, do it relax. My cell here, let's make it clear, was you're watching greatness and history in the making. And if you don't care about greatness, then I have to question your fandom. I have to question what you're into. You don't need to be a Dodgers fan to appreciate what some people, some players transcend sports. You don't have to be a Dodgers guy who appreciate Shohei or a Yankees fan who appreciate Judge.

What these dudes are doing are once in a lifetime sort of things. I think a lot of guys right now are sadly coming to the realization that at one point in their life they were baseball. They were talking to some girl. Like, where'd she go? She ghosted me. NFL showed up. Some better dude. Oh, their baseball.

I've been baseball Have you ever been baseball? It gives you character Have you ever been baseballed where Oh dude I think she really likes me And then I saw her with football on social media God And I was like oh my goodness

She's having so much fun in our Instagram story with With football And it's just a matter of opinion yeah So again if you have any thoughts Do you turn the page on baseball automatically I'm saying that proves you're not really that big of a fan And your team stinks 818 817-7509

There's room for both enjoy both 818, 817-7509, and of course, hit us up at Covino and Rich. And speaking of the NFL, speaking of football, we do this on Tuesdays on a regular time slot. Showtime a home's trivia. So Showtime a home stops by, and we do some multiple choice trivia. Your chance to win a stainless steel swiggy. What's a swigie? Prizes.

It gives you the swaggy. It makes you a 12. Turn to football. It's a stainless steel water bottle with Fox Sports Radio. Kavino and Rich's logo on. No doubt. We're going to get to that. Plus, the hardest NFL team to assess a week out. What team confuses the hell out of you? We're going to get to that. And we are in for Colin, so I want to say, great analogy on the tortilla girl? No, you like that?

Baseball, football being a girl's at a bar. You got to bring analogies when you're filling in for the herd. That's true. Well, hey, more Kavino and Rich. Next, in for the herd right here on Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Sports Radio, FS1 and the IHard Radio app. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque.

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Know what I love? Yeah. We're Covino Rich, by the way. That's Steve Covino. Yeah. He gets out done because his Steve Cavino random soccer player in Europe. So when you Google Kavito, it's him and a soccer player. Not only that, COVID sort of ruined my searches.

People try to find our podcast in there. C-O-V-I. COVID. Yeah, they're flooded with that. So is Kavino and Rich in for Colin on the herd, the C-N-R show? And we just discovered J-Lab headphones. Tooie, got a pair from me? And we know Colin is hooked.

For his most recent East Coast trip, Colin used the J-Bud's Lux over ear noise-canceling headphones. Find the blue box, that blue box at Walmart, Target, Best Buy, and More, or visit jelab.com. All right. We're going to get to a bunch of NFL stuff because they're the 12 that walked into the bar. They are, but you know what I was thinking about it, Rich? Before we move on, I was thinking about how you turn the page on baseball

and you jump head first. You dive head first like Pete Rose into football season. I don't blame you. But I realize that NFL caters to more. or all of your degenerate vices. That's really it. Binging, drinking, pizza, you're lounging around all day like a lazy slug,

you're gambling. You know what I mean? So not only you're excited for the matchups in the games and your team and the chance of winning, right, clean slate, it also allows you to sort of zone out multiple days a week because your life changes for the next... Six months? Until Valentine's Day?

Exactly, until February. So it caters to your vices more. said it for years, you have to date someone a full calendar year before you could even think about proposing. Because you need to see how each other react to all your seasonal vices. Because truthfully, imagine dating someone and they don't know that come football season, you're locked in on Monday night. Honey, sorry, it's Thursday, it's Thursday, and football.

Sunday? Morning, noon, and night. I mean, this changes how you, you know, sort of how you live. It sounds ridiculous. Don't sleep on. history being made as we speak, Len from Idaho hit us up. He goes, if Otani keeps us up, hands

down, the greatest baseball player to have ever played. But that's only if he could maintain this. Like we said before, you forgot that he's a pitcher primarily, and what he's doing is ridiculous. Yeah. You know what I think we should do? How about some herd line news? Let's go.

No, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. What's going on, guys? Good to be with you this morning. Morning. All right. Let's start off with NFL because it's NFL season, right guys? Yes, it is. That's the only thing we're focused on right now. Cavino is so aggravated, Ryan, because Cavino knows that I've already had a pumpkin spice drink. My wife wants to put up, my wife wants to put up Halloween decorations and I'm talking about football. Kavino's, Kvino wants to sit by the pool and watch baseball. Why don't you wear a turtleneck, you big nerd?

All right. The big news in the NFL was, of course, Cowboy signing, wide receiver seating lamb to that massive. contract extension. Good for him. Fantasy footballers breathe a deep sigh of relief as well. Another vice that people can't wait to jump into, yeah. All right, but we turn our attention to Cowboys head coach Mike McCarthy because he has not received that contract extension. So he's entering the final year of his deal with the season kicking off next week. Now, here's what Jerry Jones had to say about that contract situation. There's no question in my mind that, that The angst, pressure, and competing will bring out the best in this game from both coaches and players entering the final year of the contract. Jerry Jones has a way with words, doesn't he?

You know, like, yo, Mike McCarthy. Pressure's on, buddy boy? Like, yo, deliver or we're going to get Bill Belichick next year? Or someone. Never a good feeling because the unspoken word is like, oh, man, I'm really under some heat going into the final year of this deal. But then you got the owner just coming out publicly being like, that's right, yes you are. No extension. You'll perform under the pressure. Right, McCarthy? That's a good one.

Yeah, you can't be feeling too great if you're Mike McCarthy. I mean, obviously, back to back to back, to back 12 win regular seasons, but not a lot in the playoffs. Leaving a little bit of desire. What do you think, Ryan, Danny G. Kavino, what do you guys think it would take McCarthy to keep his job? Is another 12-win season early playoff exit enough? I don't think so, no. I get it's it's almost like NFC championship Super Bowl or

bust that they're constantly spinning the wheel trying to figure it out I definitely think NFC championship game because it's been three decades or whatever since they've been there yeah you know all the rumors are that Bill Belichick is waiting in the wings but also you've got to think Jerry

Jones wants a coach that he can really manipulate yeah I mean he's always been that way that's why Jason Garrett was able to survive as long as he did despite some mediocre seasons not to be more but he's also getting very old Jerry Jones. He might want one more, yeah, before it's too late.

But it's a sport of winning, right? Yeah. And they're winning just enough to bring people in and to keep them there. So as long as they're making money and they are, it doesn't really force to change that much. Jerry Jones wants it. Yeah. And I think to Danny's point, you know, yesterday there was the article from

Clarence Hill Jr. Where basically Jerry completely pushed back against anyone whoever questions him as the GM. So I think to what Danny was saying, it's very much still in the mindset of, this is my team, I run the show. Everything stops here. It's like, you know, when there's always that person,

it's like, I'll defend myself in court. And you're like, get a lawyer. Get a lawyer. No, I'm going to defend myself. No. Get a GM. Come on. All right.

We'll stay in the NFL, though. ESPN surveyed over 100 current NFL players and had them vote on a variety of categories relating to quarterbacks. Now here's what stuck out to me. Most handsome Jimmy Gruppel. That actually wouldn't stick out to me. That would be quite obvious.

Most overrated. Josh Allen. Now I was like, okay, not sure, but let me just kind of keep scrolling through here. Then I come to another category, biggest trash talker, Josh Allen. Okay.

So do we think there's some overlap there? Without a doubt. Yeah. it makes sense, but I think it's surprising to know that he's that type of guy. Look, all these dudes on this level, they talk trash for the most part. I didn't realize he was known as the

most trash-talking Q being a league. Right? And that's why they don't like him. I mean, Joe Burrow has, you know, publicly said that he doesn't think there should be taunting penalties in the NFL because he's like, yo, we're grown men playing football. Relax. Right. Yeah. The trash talking thing, I think with Joe,

Josh Allen, even if you talk a lot of trash, it's the classic, dude backs it up. Yeah. He plays tough. It's just part of his game. That's how I see it. Yeah, I mean, and we've also seen Mahomes, though. Mahomes can be kind of a little goofy sometimes with his trash talk. Right here.

It just doesn't sound as intimidating coming from his voice. I know. I know. But, I mean, obviously he's great too and backs it up. I'm always surprised because with Josh Allen, I guess people have been talking about him and Mahomes are on the same level and maybe that's why there's the reaction to him being overrated because obviously he hasn't even gone to a Super Bowl

but like the dude has been lights out in the playoffs and it's been like the defense or something like that that sort of let them down so I still even with the trash talking I find it a little surprising that he gives it as all and you know we always say this if you're considered overrated you had to be really highly rated to begin with and he's highly rated for a reason sure absolutely all right we'll wrap up with this actually go from NFL to college football, which is already underway with Week Zero over the weekend, and then we get things fully underway this upcoming weekend.

Netflix debuted a new documentary, Sign Steeler, going in-depth on the alleged Michigan football sign-stealing scheme, focusing on Connor Stallions. Now, in this documentary, they feature footage from Stallions' interview with NCAA investigators, and he continued to maintain his innocence. Here's what he had to say. I did not obtain signals through in-person scouting. And no, I do not recall directing anyone to go to a game and film sidelines. Guys, he got the memo.

First Rule of Fight Club. There is no. Don't talk about Fight Club. Listen, I find there. When things like this happen, like, oh, was he stealing signs? I find these things, once we're past them, when people are harping on, I'm like, let's move forward. What's going to, I don't know. I get it.

They do these investigations. but also matter of deny until you die or just on up to it so you can move forward and move on. Deny. Right? Deny. It's one of those. I mean,

I think with someone like Connor Stallions and what we've seen with the development of college football and where it stands now, like why even admit it? Like, what's the NCAA really going to do to you? You know, this isn't like lying to the FBI where it's like, okay, you're in some serious problems here. You know, like NCAA is going to what?

It's a suspending? A juicy sign-stealing story, but when I was in high school, right, my friends were probably drunk and whatever. Yeah. And they were riding on Route 22 in Union, New Jersey. The guys were putting in the light bulbs at Taco Bell, so they took the sign down. That's a sign that's a sign stealing. No, no, no, but like a big, you know, one on the highway. Some big giant taco, it's really big.

How did they get there? So hold on. They took it down. No, no, no. The people changing light bulbs took it down. Okay. So my friends are driving by and they thought it would be the greatest idea to steal this somehow and leave it on my front lawn. Wow.

Racist. Racist. I was growing up in New Jersey. I was probably the only Mexican kid they knew. They're like, oh, tacos, Kavino. So while the dudes are changing the light bulbs, they take it and they put it on their car somehow. I have no idea. They drive all the way to my house.

They leave it on a tree. That thing sat there. My dad would be like, can you get this out of my house? Get this sign out of my. That was like in our garage for 20-something years, this big gigantic taco bill sign. Sign stealing story. That is sign stealing. That is actually better than the whole Michigan College.

I just don't know how you drive down the highway and get a car with that on the top. You know what I mean? How the wind doesn't catch it or something. How the wind doesn't catch it, if you just pass by one cop. It's like the Seinfeld bit where a guy thinks he could hold a mattress with one hand. Like, I got it. They left it on, you know, leaning on a tree in my front yard. came outside, what the hell is that?

So taking it back on a Tuesday, legendary story, at least for me. Thank you, Ryan. That's the Hurdline News. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd Lie News. You know, you talked about Josh Allen, Ryan, during the Hurdly News.

I respect them more, Rich, after hearing that. I'm like, oh, and he's a trash talker? Cool. I like that. I wanted to get a, I want to take the temperature on this question again. We touched on this briefly on our afternoon, Kavino and Rich Show. You talk about Josh Allen, you brought up Mahomes, we brought up Joe Burrow, and

Lamar Jackson. I think universally those are considered your top four quarterbacks. I feel like I've heard people on the network talk about it. We've talked about it. So Mahomes, Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson. You might not agree with that top four, but if you do, who is

your number five? Because I feel like there's a slight dip after that, and some would say Herbert, some might say, Well, Dak. And I bring this up also because if you remember, Tom Brady and Peyton Manning both sat down and gave those identical four.

So you talk about two of the greats of the last 25 years. They said, Alan, Mahomes, Burrow, Jackson. Brady refused to name a fifth. Herbert was brought up. And Peyton Manning reluctant was like, ah, fifth maybe Herbert. So is there a fifth to you? Is there someone this year that could have that breakout?

Is it Jordan Love, who I know Colin said, is his MVP pick? I know. That was a bold take. Is it Dak who's playing for a lot this year? I was going to say I think it's going to be Dak, and I know it would get a lot of pushback because he's a cowboy because he's

Dak, but I think he has a lot to play for. He's looking for that fat contract. He may end up somewhere else and be that guy, but I think he's been around long enough and his numbers back it up. You said something that I agreed with, and then I heard Colin during one of the promos. We said,

are we forgetting Aaron Rogers? And then you've got to remember, Aaron Rogers hasn't been elite. in a couple years and a couple years in the NFL seems like an eternity. I'm just surprised they didn't say Aaron Rogers

being who he is and just knowing his resume and leadership, just being a veteran in the league because he comes to mind. I also find it surprising that guys like Jalen Hertz who if it was a year ago

you would have had him right there but one bad year you're like, nah, he's done. He took a step back it seemed right? Yeah, but you can't write him off. I mean, I believe he let the league in quarterback turnover so you can't really put him number five

when you have one bad year and that's it? that's craziness to me. Right? I'm just saying that that's surprising that you just write it. He's not even in the conversation. If you start going division by division,

you start canceling out guys like Danny, if I would say... It goes to show you how many great quarterbacks there are because that fifth spot could be a multitude of people. It's up for grabs. If I said, AFC East, we already said Josh Allen,

Aaron Rogers is getting old. New England's, you know, that's a work in progress. If I said, Tua, is he even a possibility? I mean, he just got paid a time.

Is he top five? I mean, he could round out the top 10 maybe, but I think vying for the number five spot would be Herbert and C.J. Stroud. Ced is another one, yeah. But what about if Anthony Richardson comes back and lights it up? Exactly, exactly.

Hey, if you had to make that decision, I know you hate Mount Rushmore's, Rich, as do I. I like the backside of the Mount Rushmore. People don't know there's asses on the backside of Mount Rushmore. There's asses on the back. You got to go check that out. But if you were in charge of making the top five,

Top five. You had to extend the rest of me. I had to extend the match more. You had to sign it off. All right. Well, this is the fifth guy. Who would it be? Because I don't think anyone would debate the four that you said.

Mahomes, Alan, Burrow, Jackson. I mean, my answer? Your dad, knowing your dad, jersey guy, he would say, Eh, Rich is kissing ass. Because I'm going to agree with Colin. I think if Jordan loves. Why, he's kissing ass. Yeah, you're filling in for Colin.

You're kissing his ass. I do think there's something to be said about. Jordan Love, one of my softball buddies used the perfect word. The first half last year, Jordan Love was pedestrian. He was like, you know, like, listen, we talked about it. Dan Patrick, Colin Cowherd, people on every network were saying,

Jordan Love, maybe he's not the guy. And then something happened. I don't know if him and Matt LaFlor had a, you know, had a powwow, they had a nice, they sat over a nice pumpkin spice latte and had a conversation. Something happened. And Jordan Love went from, maybe he's not the guy to

yo he's the guy he's top five like that though so you're right off hurts but you'll write in love just based on one good thing let me let me give you a legacy question you know sometimes one thing ruins a guy's legacy Jared Goff number one pick

got the Rams to the Super Bowl that was the most boring 13-3 Super Bowl they got they got beat by the Patriots you're saying he got exposed a little bit, right? But that was also Gurley was done at that point. He was heard. It wasn't the same. But if that, if Goff and the Rams had beaten

the Patriots in that Super Bowl and Goff's a Super Bowl champ, the Stafford trade probably never happens. And I think... Oh, you've got Stafford, by the way. Stafford be the fifth guy. He's a Super Bowl champion. I just think that... I think that matters, right? I mean, here's guys that have won. You're not going to count them?

Yeah, Eric Goff didn't win. Some guys are off because then you got to throw Russell Wilson in that conversation, and you know he's not in that conversation. He shouldn't even be starting. He's not in that conversation anymore, obviously. All right. Well, hey, who's that fifth spy?

It's a fun one. Yeah, your thoughts at Covino Enrich, or you could hit us up on the herd. What's the number again? It's 818, 817-7509, 818-817-7509. 8-1-8-17-750. And if you're busy, you've got a life, you're at work. Just hit us up at Covino and Rich on social media at Fox Sports Radio.

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Yeah, ridiculous ones. Blame your ex-wife? Yeah, sure. You're right. Hey, we got a lot to get to. We're going to talk a lot of NFL today because, as I said in the beginning of the show, I've turned the page on baseball because I feel like, you know who convinced me? Two-E convinced me from that.

heard. Yeah. Because he's like, you know, your Mets have a couple easy series coming up, but they end against like Phillies, Braves, all like the Brewers.

Like the Mets would have to... That's when you tune in and you believe in your team and you root them on. What a fair... On to Trent Williams. Sign Trent Williams. Get it done.

Fair weathered, man. That really is. That's you tuning out because you think they don't have a shot. That's ridiculous. I'll still watch every day, Bozo. I just can't,

I can't fake my optimism. Rich doesn't really. watch, though. I have it on. I enjoy it. Oh, can I tell you this? Last night. Last night, I was so proud of you. He's watching The Bachelorette or something. It's like, yo, you can't fast forward through the game like that. Enjoy it.

Bachelorette is worth fast forwarding through. It's not even worth watching, I don't think. And I'm a fan. I do watch that stupid show. It's the last night boring. So last night, Kavino and I meet one of our old pals that we worked with at ESPN, Janelle. And we met out for a couple drinks.

couple appetizers at a bar, it was nice. Kavino, because hey, Janelle, because it's you and I haven't seen you in a while, he turns the Yankee game off his phone. He started dinner? With his phone up to watch game number

136 or something for the Yankees. He's like, Janelle, you know, for you? For you, I'm going to turn it off. And I was like, for you? How about you turn it off because we're at a restaurant? I'm sorry that no one cares about Pete Alonzo hitting home runs that big goon. No one cares about it. People care about Aaron Judge. That's the truth.

And Soto and Stanton, back to back to back, and belly to belly. So, I mean, that's just how you do it when you're a fan. And my fandom for the Yankees supersedes any other team, to be honest. When it comes to NFL for me, it's all about the matchups. Show me the matchups. I don't care about teams the way I care about the Yankees. But we have lots of things to talk about as far as teams.

In the NFL, what's the team that's hardest to predict? We got to get to that. Yeah, you know, it's interesting because you see the, you see every analyst and the website and publication and blogger doing their, here's my standings predictions for the 2024 NFL season. And as you know, this is no surprise. Every year, they're on average, are six to seven teams that made the postseason, the previous year that are out.

And there's new teams that enter the mix. And it might seem, and because you go through this every year. You look at it and you're like, well, not this year because the same teams are going to, you know. And without fail, they'll be a Cowboys or Bills or, dare I say, Niners or Chiefs. Someone will take a step back. Maybe it's a huge knock on wood quarterback injury. Something will prevent what you think is a power team to make it to the playoffs again. And that's what makes the NFL exciting, as you always say.

Parity. The parody of the NFL. It's fantastic. It's true. Because you look at the standings and you'd be quick to say, well, of course, I could already tell you 10 teams that'll make it. And that's just, as Barack Obama would say, that's simply not true. But I got to ask, of all the NFL teams, when you go through each division, all 32 of them. What team is the hardest to predict where they're going to stand?

I think there's a really obvious answer. There's a clear number one. Not even where they stand. If it was a Spider-Harrison countdown. If it was Casey Kasem, there's a clear number one here. But I want to, when I say you're not sure, meaning you're saying this team could be six and 11 or 11 and 6, and you wouldn't be shocked either way. Right.

Like it's, it's not like, well, they'll make the playoffs. They might win 13 games or 10. You're saying this team could be vying for a draft pick or fighting for a Super Bowl. Like you're that confused on the team. Start thinking about it. Let's get involved, right? the most inclusive, most interactive show on radio according to us. 818, 817-7509.

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