The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 – Franchise Leaders, Crocs at the Gym

Episode Date: January 3, 2025

Covino & Rich are in for Colin! They have fun talking salad for breakfast & NFL QBs! What option would you prefer when selecting your franchise's next leader? The guys talk about a viral video about Crocs at the gym. Embarrassing, or acceptable? Plus, HERDLINE NEWS! #crshowSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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or stream us live every day on the IHart Radio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Well, how we doing today? C&R in for Colin on the herd. How you doing? How you doing? How you do? What's up, buddy?

Good morning, good day. Live from the west side, I'm Steve Covino. That is Rich Davis, again. The C&R show, In for Colin on the Herd. Normally we're on from 2 to 4 on the West, 5 to 7 on the East on Fox Sports Radio. But you say, hey, you want to fill in for the herd? Absolutely. So happy new year.

We have until this weekend to say it, right? I think today I might be the last day. No, no. We have until Monday. So happy new year. Going to thrive in 2025. Try to survive in 2025. And lots to get to today on the show.

How different would life be if life was incentive-based, based on all the games this weekend in the NFL, all the player incentives, and Rich. like I said, it's happy New Year. We see our buddy Ryan. By the way, Ryan on the ones in Tuesday, Danny G. Superproducing. Ryan Music on your updates. Again, it's Kavino and Rich.

But Ryan on the boards here eating salad for breakfast. What salad for breakfast? I've never seen such a thing. He does because he's on his New Year's resolution sort of kid. I'm trying to be healthy, thank you. Yeah, but for breakfast, I mean, like, white omelet, you know, oatmeal. Is there a rule to this? Like, when you can have a salad?

I don't think I've ever eaten greens before noon. Unless you're a bunny, I don't really see it that often. The only greens Rich has are the marshmallows and his lucky charms. My Kelsey mix. Yeah. So, based on that, everybody's also at the gym trying to stay healthy in the beginning of the year. For the next two weeks, you're going to see a lot of people at the gym. What's the stat, Rich?

Isn't there a stat? Over 10% of all gym memberships are activated on January 1st. Yeah, so people are trying to keep their resolution intact. I get it. But you're also seeing what I'm. I call, what we call the broccoli heads at the gym, lots of teenage boys, the alpaca

boys with their alpaca haircuts, the broccoli heads with their crocs at the gym. Is this okay or not? We're going to get to that. We're going to play some games, give away prizes. We got Showtime of Holmes trivia. So lots to get to on the Covino and Rich show. Stick around. And if you

got a busy day, catch it on the podcast later. Of course. I want to talk quarterbacks to start the show because there's so many there's so many ways to look at this. We're getting ready for the playoffs. You're seeing a lot of these young quarterbacks and bowl games if you're into college football.

And you got to ask yourself, if you, Steve Kavito, if you, Danny G., your music, or if anyone listening, if you were a GM of a football team in the NFL, there's angles to take. If I was a GM, I wouldn't be hanging with you. Be living a life somewhere.

It's fair. Be out of a yacht. If you were a GM on a yacht, not hanging with me. There's ways to go. You could take a swing at some young college quarterback. You could try

to sort of rejuvenate the failed attempt of some young quarterback lingering in the NFL. That's the way. Or you could go the way of veteran that's got a couple years left in the tank. Nah, the answer's simple, man.

You got to look at the trends, right? The trend. And the trend is there's so many good quarterbacks that never got a proper chance, proper shot. You think of guys like Gino Smith and Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, guys like that. There's plenty of that in the NFL.

Guys who've been there, they've got a chip on their shoulder. They know what it's like to lead an NFL team. They have some experience. They have things to prove. I'd put my money in that than some young, nose-picking college kid who doesn't know what it's like yet. I feel like success rate seems to be higher with the guy that has a little more experience in the NFL.

and I would take my chances on and I wish I can quote the people I heard say this but it's an obvious thought it was some podcast like two goons in the room or something like that. Yeah, probably. Two goons in the room. When you think about the trend

and you think about players that have had great comebacks recently, like the ones we just mentioned, Sam Donald would probably be in the biggest answer right now. The meme of Sam Donald and Baker Mayfield both as Panthers and it's like, look at them now. Look at them now.

them now. It's an amazing story. We were saying that Sam Donald looked like a Lego fireman. Now he looks like an MVP. He looks like both. All right. He looks like an MVP Lego fireman. But when you think about some of these young players and you think about the teams they played for, the players they played with, the coaches they played under, you wouldn't give Zach Wilson

another shot or a Daniel Jones another shot. when you think about the teams and players and coaches they played for. A guy like Zach Wilson, he played better than Aaron Rogers did with the Jets. Maybe it's not him. Maybe he does have some juice. Why not take a chance not pay that much money for a guy that's proven that he could win in the NFL just with a crappy team? Daniel Jones won a playoff game. Why wouldn't you take a chance over them as opposed to some young,

kid who I always question their leadership. You know how hard it is for a young baby-faced college quarterback to come and play with all these men in the NFL? Not easy, but to quote the theme song to one of your favorite shows, what might be right for you?

May not be right for some. May not be right for some. It's a great song. Written by Alan Thick. I believe it was. It was. Different strokes. I don't know if you could say Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield are now the template for how to find your guy. Because that might be an illusion.

Like you might say, oh, great idea. Let's go get Trey Lance. We can fix them. We underestimate and undermine setting. You know, that applies to not only football everywhere in life. If you're not thriving where you are, it might be just because you're in the wrong mix with the wrong people at the wrong place and the wrong state. Like, look at Spottie.

Spottie was a slub in New York. I hear in L.A. in L.A. he could be a new man. He is a new man. You just called Hamilton. I did. In New York, you can be a new man. And we're seeing a lot of this in the NFL.

Yeah, our video guy spot, way different guy here than when he was on the East Coast. So setting matters, players matter, people around you matter. Friends and coworkers. Now, again, I'm going to give you the three categories of NFL quarterbacks. Number one, you could go overshoot and take a swing at a guy. Like Danny G, you're a Raiders fan.

You want Shador Sanders? Do you want... I don't hear of Danny J. I could just pretend I'm Danny G. I'll take Shador Sanders. He looks gray and silver and black. Yeah, I wouldn't be mad at Sanders. Like, ask himself, if you're a fan of a team

without a quarterback, is your best bet, like, let's go after a Shador Sanders, who might not... Is he really a top-tier round-one quarterback, or is there just such a need for a quarterback that he sort of just moves up the board? Such a need. But realistically, he probably should go somewhere around 13, 14 in the draft.

But I think we're saying with these players that have had amazing comebacks is the heart and the wherewithal, the know-how to understand that it's going to take a lot more to succeed in the NFL. And therefore, you're getting a lot more fire from these players where kids out of college, it's more of a risk because they're coming out thinking they're superstars, not knowing what it's like to fail on that level yet. I'd put my money on that hungry guy.

There's such an importance on... Honestly? Getting your right guy at the quarterback position, though. There's such a pressure to get it right. And... But, Eric, you said if you were a GM, that was the question, right? That's how you posed it. If you were a GM, don't you want to put your money where that fire is, that hunger?

really is because that dude got overlooked or was in a bad place, it didn't really get to prove himself. You don't think that burns inside somebody's players like a Justin Fields or like we said a Zach Wilson. Everyone thinks he stinks. No, his team stunk. If you were going to give your money to somebody, that's really the question here.

Essentially, if you're taking a chance on how do I get this franchise back on track? Fox Sports Radio could have hired anybody three years ago. I think they looked in R.I. And they said, these guys have been overlooked. They're hungry. They want it. They're going to work hard. Let's give it to them.

I'm serious. Think about it. I think that's how you make the best decision. You look around who wants this the most. Who has that fire inside? Who's burning for success and working for it the hardest? And I think it's going to be the guys like Darnold, Mayfield, Gino Smith.

These are all guys that play for weak-ass organizations. Well, our buddy Ryan, music, music, you brought up the good point that in bowl game season, there's a lot of guys that because they have a couple good games all of a sudden their stock just rises in like an absurd percentage guys guys have a good ball game

in college basketball happens a lot oh yeah you see the guys like Shabaz Napier when he went on that run with Yukon and then ended up getting drafted in the first round and you're seeing it a lot in college now with the expanded playoff you're seeing guys like a Penn State's Drew Aller or Riley Leonard with Notre Dame

coming into it, people are like yeah, I don't know, maybe they're like a mid-round guy and all of a sudden two playoff wins later, they're one of the last four quarterbacks left and people are like, you know, he could sneak into the first round. You're like, well, the same guy now as he was

back in September and October. I guess people are really just really guessing, right? You're trying to take your best educated guess. Your team, because now you're saying let's go the other angle for a second, Kavino. Aaron Rogers is saying

Well, he might retire. He's using words that are insinuating. Is he going to retire? Or if you're a team out there, do you feel like you'd want Aaron Rogers on your team? Do you have gas left in the tank? I think Aaron Rogers is a really specific example and different type of person.

Do you want that kind of leadership? At this stage of the game, if I was a GM, I would say probably not. Because after watching Enigma on Netflix, I'm like, is his head really in football right now? Or playing the bongos? You know, like that's not the kind of guy I would want leading my team right now. And he's earned it and he could do whatever he wants. The other question with the Jets is, should they trade for J.J. McCarthy this offseason?

Our old stomping grounds, S&Y was talking about that recently. So it's just an interesting choice people have to make now because it's based on the trend of a Sam Darnold, would you take that risk of somebody that still has something to prove or someone out of college is the question. And out of college, it goes back to what Danny Gio often says. You're prisoner of the moment because they just had a sweet run. Yeah. On a good team.

On a good team. And I'm not saying J.J. McCarthy is not great. I'm just saying last year we were very much into, I look at Michigan and Harbaugh and J.J. McCarthy. His stock went way up. And you're seeing what Sam Donald did this year. there should be no debate. He's your quarterback. What do you do with J.J. McCarthy?

I've said this for years. For real. I feel like I'm one of the only people that would say it because people are so quick to write off quarterbacks and I would say, this guy's like 23, 24 and you're saying he's done? Hard to say a guy that's 24 is done. I know we're not there watching the scout team. We're not there watching the reps in training camp. Will you tell me some of these guys that are drafted early

are just done already? Or do they need the Sam Darnold? Baker-Mayfield treatment. I think that's it. You put those dudes around the right people. I mean, you have to, again, there's intangibles. There really is. With guys like Darnell, with guys like Mayfield,

yeah, they're skill for quarterbacks, but they have a lot of heart. I'll give you three guys. Tell me if you think any of them end up in a position where maybe in two years from now or so, we're saying, see, they just needed the right place. Daniel Jones, Zach Wilson, Justin Fields. is there a scenario where one of those three guys is being talked about

the way we're talking about Baker now like oh there Baker's a man now he's a man look at him he's matured he's in Tampa and then you look back and say well you did take Cleveland to the playoffs like we've overlooked him the whole time and then Sam Darnold we're looking at him now saying well look yeah he started he was with the Jets and the Panthers

two garbage teams at those moments I think one of those dudes of those three Yeah, I think they have the potential to make it in the NFL if in the right setting. And look how long it took a Gino Smith to really get the props he deserved. Look how long he's been in a league. We often say this, but we did a TV show in 2013 on us and why. We were talking about Gino Smith in 2013 when he was on the Jets.

Remember he got punched in the face by a teammate? And now that took him out? You realize, I mean, you knew that he was supposed to be good, but now you're seeing how good he really could be on a team that's not even that great. Right? So it's like, wow, okay, he found himself because they gave him a chance. So I think, yes, the answer if you, I think the question is of those three quarterbacks who've been overlooked or maybe on bad teams, which one is the answer? Wilson, Jones, or Justin Fields. Well, who would you put your money on? Or some young college QB. That's really a question,

Rich is posing. Yeah. How do you figure out what your strategy is if you're a GM now? It really is the biggest question in the NFL because the 49ers also created the template of well if you have a really good team and a young quarterback that fits in a system could you try to win before you have to pay him? Or the veteran guy.

And you saw that with Brock Purdy, right? Because now teams are like, if I have a guy that fits into this team. I would say the Falcons are a good example. You know, cousins didn't necessarily fit. He wasn't necessarily that guy. That's another great guy. Right.

I'm glad you brought him. up, but I forgot him. There's rumors that maybe the Browns are interested in him. The other, you know, extreme of that is, forget a guy that's, you know, a guy that's like 40. And Aaron Rogers, you know, an older veteran like a Kirk Cousins in his late 30s, or

do you see the rumor that Tom Brady's on the, Tom Brady's on the... Let me ask you this, for real. Yeah, real question. Yeah, for real. Real talk. Fox Sports Radio, Kavino and Rich in for Colin on the herd. Yeah. You're single. You're not. a GM because you're not.

Guess what? Your GM of nothing. I'll take the younger girl, not the 40-year-old time. Oh, I was just going to ask you. That's exactly what I was saying. Ready? You're single. God forbid. Right? Your wife finally, I don't know, she bumps her head and realizes what a creep you are. Thanks. And you end up alone. Do you put your,

not your money, but your heart, right? In a young woman with all the potential in the world or an established, older, great woman that can lead the rest of your life into victory, into greatness. Where are you investing your time and heart? It's kind of the same question. The young guy with all the... It's not the same question.

You're asking me if I take a 40-something or a woman or a college girl. The young guy with all the promise in the world. The young guy with all the promise in the world or the veteran, the Kirk Cousins, or the Aaron Rogers or the someone that you know could play, you know could lead. But how many years of... How many good years did they really have left? That's right. But hold on. Is she the female version of Tom Brady?

She, like, ripped for 40-something? Hey, dude, I'm serious. I'm serious about that because that's a, it's an honest question. It's, you could see the good in both. That's really it. So really, what's the intangible that helps you make that decision in reality, right? It's going to be fit. At the end of the day, it's about, well, what fits?

You know, it's, we are filling in for Colin and he is the king of analogies. You could also say, of NFL. Stars! There are a lot of NFL teams that realize that they're not with their forever person. It's like, you know those people you date and you're like,

I'll date them for a couple years, but they're not my, I'm not marrying them. And, you know, I'm never going to marry, meaning I can't win a Super Bowl with this person. That's a lot of people, but where do you put your, where do you put your stock? That's a great question. And by the way, and if the answer was simple,

we wouldn't even be having this conversation. and maybe we're going to move on in a second anyway, but if you're a GM, it really is. I think Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, Gino, and you look at guys like that and you say, I wouldn't go overpaid old quarterback. I just wouldn't. I don't think that's the formula.

Aaron Rodgers scared me away. Kirk Cousa scared me away. And nothing against cousins. I like him. He's a good dude. I would find that middle ground guy. It's the compromise, right? The college dude,

too risky, too young, too green, too raw, too baby-faced. That dude like Daniel Jones, I feel like, again, there's more fire there, more to prove, more experience, and you wouldn't be paying a lot of money for a guy like that. Or Zach Wilson, I should say. Well, let's go old guy for a second. Daniel Jones got paid. Put on your old guy shoes. Okay.

What is your dad wear? Rockports. Put on your rock ports for a second. Put on the Nike Monarchs. the ones my Tyson with if you go with the old guy

it sometimes pays off Tom Brady Tampa Peyton Manning Those are exceptions You got to Hold on Examples were two of the

greatest quarterbacks ever though But I'm saying Brady Tampa Yeah but Peyton Manning Hold on

Peyton Manning Denver Then you can say All right Kurt Warner Arizona Got Close You could say Brett Far for the Vikings You know

Got Close Had a good run There's gonna be a team team that says... They're paying a lot of money for names like that. You're the GM, remember. And you brought up two

greats. Let me give you the dumbest scenario because it's unlikely, but hey, it's a random Friday in for Colin, why not? The compromise is that middle ground dude that Justin Fields, who you think still may have something to prove.

Give me a team with all the talent in the world. And I say this because I'm a Niners fan, so it's a Homer answer. But the 49ers. Yeah. They're sort of ready to win now. They were hurt this year.

but they have the softest schedule I've ever seen for 2025. Take a look at it. You're going to get a chance. If the 49ers don't win 13 games next year, Kyle Shanahan should be ashamed of himself. They have the softest schedule I've ever seen, ever for 2025. Brock Purdy's your guy, likely to sign a big contract. But what if you put an Aaron Rogers on that team for a year?

Well, you're a fan. Would you want that? I think he could do big things with that team. I feel like you're nod in your head. You would do that for a year? You don't think Aaron Rogers and Kyle Shanahan I wouldn't do it Listen I don't think it's the craziest thing

I'm not a Brock Purdy guy Nothing against him But I agree with Colin the other day who said You don't give that guy 60 million dollars I agree with Colin when he's like You don't break out the checkbook and give Brock Party 50-16 Because I think to your Question is

What you're approaching with Brock Purdy is Maybe do you want Aaron Rogers for 30 Or do you want Brock Purdy? Or do you want Brock Purdy for the next four years at 60. And I would say, I would rather go Aaron Rogers, see what you can do in one year, than have to be fully financially committed to Brock Purdy based off of what we just saw. It sounds ridiculous, but if you give Brock Purdy $50, 60 million a year, long-term deal,

versus drafting guy, like you said, there might be a guy, I don't know, about like a dart, some guy that you might be able to pick up in a later round. get a young quarterback, get Aaron Rogers for one year with an aging team that still has it. Kiddle, Debo, Iuke will be back, McCaffrey will be back. You put Aaron Rogers in that Chanahan system for less money, one year deal? You might have a Tom Brady Buck situation on your hands.

I see that because it's a win now league, and you often talk about the window, right? A team has only a certain amount of time, a little window to make it happen. And the 49ers have had the, window and they're not getting any younger. So I could see what you're saying in this particular case because they have to win now in the next year or so or really never.

Because there's going to come a time where they need to revamp a little bit. Right. They're going to have to rebuild eventually. So I do see that sort of desperation move is what it would be because they have to win now. All right. So your thoughts on that. How would you do it if you were the GM, 877 for the herd?

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dating as a single guy in your 30s or 40s. I'm being that serious. It really is. The analogies are so important. 20-something year old, oh, there's a lot of potential, but what a pain in the ass. Enticing, but green and priorities are off.

They're not really ready. Yeah, they look good. There's a lot of potential, but they're young. Right. Then, if you're single and out there and about there, do you want a woman your age? She comes with a lot. She's in her own ways. Can't teach an old dog new tricks, right? She's only got a few good years left, like we said. Oh, look at you, Mr. Vane. I'm being real about this. Right? It's a good analogy for you. So you'd want someone there somewhere in the middle with experience, but not too old. not going to be a pain in the ass

established somewhat already that middle ground person who just needs another shot might be the best angle and we've seen it work or has it just coincidentally happen a couple times meaning is Baker Mayfield

I think in the past we've been really quick to write off quarterbacks who've been in really crappy situations but Baker Sam Darnold Gino Smith Is it just happen to be coincidence that they're all sort of working out with a new shot? I'm going to go back to the one that we were talking about a few minutes ago. If you're the 49ers and you have the lightest schedule on planet Earth for 2025,

I said it before, the toughest team on their schedule is the Houston Texans. Honestly, look up the Niners schedule. It is, Vegas will set it at 12.5, I bet, over under wins. If you don't want to pay, Brock Purdy, $50, $60 million. If you don't, I feel like they will. I do, as a Niners fan of you, I feel like John Lynch and Shanahan are committed to Purdy.

But if he didn't want to, you drafted a young quarterback and picked up Aaron Rogers on a one-year deal and put Aaron Rogers on his childhood favorite team, the 49ers. The team he thought he should have been on 20 years ago. If you put Aaron Rogers with Debo, Kittle, McCaffrey, Iuke, Eusecheck, you know, big Trent walking on the left side. You don't think Aaron Rogers

could have one last shot at glory? A guy that we thought stunk the last few years for the Jets? Based on what we saw, I would say no to that. I just feel like he did lose a step. Maybe he played a little cautious because of the injury. It was year one off a big injury?

Year one off of an injury, but you don't get better as you get older like that, man, off an injury like that. I just, I wouldn't do it. But I understand what you're saying. You want to win now. so you might want to take that chance. I would take that chance with a Cousins, a guy like that.

So anyway, your thoughts? So you think of Kirk Cousins, though, for the 49ers? Maybe. And I always say the 49ers. I'm saying the overall Rogers, because to me, Rogers looked really done this year. Listen, I, you could say the same about Cousins at times. I'm just saying, I'm not bringing up the Niners solely because they're my team. It just says very few teams that are in a position to win maybe next year

that don't have a set quarterback right now. say Purdy said, but he's, you know, as Colin said, a couple days back, is Purdy the type of guy you really think should get $50 to $60 million? I remember Colin broke it down at the three groups. The guys that like, hey, you got to pay him. Then there's the guys where you're like, I'll take the phone call, we'll talk about it, probably. And then the guys, as he said, he hang up on. I, as a Niners fan, I love Brock Purdy. I think he's a fun young guy. I love his story. I think he's a good dude probably. You'll talk. to him. But I don't think

he should be getting 50 to 60 million. I said that Daniel Jones, Baker Mayfield, like 30, 40 something million is where he should be, but he's not going to take that by any means. So with that said, if you've been Niners, do you say one year

of maybe a Kirk Cousins or an Aaron Rogers and draft a quarterback to just throw into Shanahan system? You know, I'm going to go back to another Colin Calhurt saying, stars, stars, stars, stars attract other stars. They do.

And there's a lot of star power on your 49ers. And maybe that will attract an Aaron Rogers. So to wrap it up. To wrap it up, I would say it's all about that middle ground person in life and on the field. That's where I would put my money. But again, it's an interesting conversation. What would you do? You make the calls they used to say.

So if you're a GM, one of three paths, as you said, it's not easy to. decide nowadays as veteran, revamp a guy who's had a couple years of struggle, or maybe draft a quarterback too early because it's just a need you have. These college quarterbacks would be the equivalent to some social media girl dancing around in her bikini. Is that the girl you want to invest in? I know what you're saying. Unless it's like the elite one. Yeah, it's enticing. You know, it looks good in the moment. But is that really where you're putting your money if you're a GM? That's the equivalent.

Yeah. So think about it. Yeah, it looks good, but I don't know if that's the answer for your organization. Now, there's lots more to get to today. Showtime Mahomes trivia. Broke Mahomes is stopping by, giving away prizes. We got trivia. We're going to talk some Tom Brady.

He's in the news. We're going to talk about signs. You messed up. Signs that you're in the doghouse, all right? Deshaun Watson's in the news. but there's a guy that I follow on social media, Rich, and his name is two-toned the superstar. Too-toned the superstar.

It's a long name. Hit that guy to trim it down off. He's just a social media fight fan, and I'm a fight fan. I'm a boxing, UFC fan, and he's just one of those guys that goes on these crazy rants. He's like, oh, I'm feeling some musty energy. Oh!

And he'll say something like, Canelo's Duck and Benevita, And I say that out respectfully. And he's just a loud-mouthed kid. And I like him. I like his fight takes. And he went on this rant recently about how he got kicked out of Planet Fitness for wearing crocs. And I'm sure you didn't see it.

So take a listen. Planning Fitness? Y'all some BS, bro, told me that you cannot wear crops. You can't wear crops on the gym floor in Plains. The same planet fitness that serves delicious hungry Howie's pizza after workouts. The same planet fitness that doesn't allow you to slam weights. The same planet fitness where all the equipment is low-key mid. Y'all got to get it together.

This is where y'all draw the line at. Y'all draw the line on Crocs? My Crocs was in sports mode. Wow. So he goes on and on and he talks about his bad experience and they made him go home or change his shoes. It was not allowed on the floor. Now, why do we bring this up? I thought I was cheap going a 24-hour fitness.

Planet Fitness is like a rung below that. That's like the speared airlines of... No one said this guy was slaying it on social media, right? A lot of these dudes aren't getting paid, but I'm sure he's doing all right. Is he flying frontier? But no, Soulplane. But I think that it's worth bringing up because, in the next few weeks, you're going to see a lot of people at the gym, people you hadn't seen before.

And I mentioned the broccoli heads, the alpaca boys, and their official gym uniform of pajama pants. And there's always those checkered pajama pants. It could be their girlfriend's pants. I don't know, my 15-year-old daughter wears the same ones, the same ones that the boys wear into the gym. So these flannel checkered pajama pants with the tank top. You know the real name. We can't say. Formerly known his wife, Peter, until we realize that's not a great name for a shirt.

I didn't even want to say it because it's politically incorrect. But they'd wear their tight tank top and crocs on their feet. Now, the question is, do you find crocs to be okay at the gym? Can you wear crocs to the gym? I personally have a stance against them ever in life. I think they're the weakest looking shoe, but I lost this war because kids wear them all the time, right? But do you think they're okay to wear to the gym is the question? as you see all these new people for the next few weeks at the gym.

I own a pair of crox. Sorry to hear that. They're good for gardening. You and your schoolboy son who picks his nose. You wear the same? Do you wear Velcro sneakers too like a little schoolboy? No, but I don't. Listen, I'm not going to wear, I'm not going to wear sneakers that light up.

You wear the same shoes as your four-year-old son. Because he can't tie his shoes. He has an excuse. I mean, Crocs are great, you know, sitting back by the pool, gardening. Running errands around the house. I get it. They're comfy. They're comfy.

I've tried them on. I'm not going out for lunch. I'm not going to work. I'm not going out in Crox. But I think they're okay at the gym. Okay. I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why.

Because unless you're doing intense cardio or you're crossfit guy or you do an orange theory or something, unless you're doing intense workouts, if you're just the guy going to the gym, and I'm going to do arms and bench press today, I think he can wear crocs. Who's kicking you out of a weak-ass gym for wearing a week-ass gym for wearing a wearing crox. Then maybe you're not working hard enough. He had them in sport mode. Yeah, sport mode.

Get out. You get the stupid... That would imply that you're wearing this stupid buckle on the back of your claw, right? Yeah, the strap. How lame is this? Sports mode. That means you're not really doing any cardio at all. That means you're not doing any legs at all.

And I'm not saying I do. I'm just saying what kind of workout are you really getting in your crocs? And, you know, aside from aesthetically being the weakest look ever, Crox at the gym. Okay or not, let us know at 8774 the herd, because I'm here to tell you, it's not. That's my stance. I think it's the weakest, it's not functional,

it's not fashionable, it's nothing. It's nothing positive here. Crocs at the gym. I think your take is whack. All right, well. But what do you care about someone wearing crocs? They're not wearing flip-flops, that's dangerous.

You can drop a weight on your foot or something. No, it is a liability. I would imagine that's why Planet Fitness told them that they can't because some do at the gym, he's wearing crocks like an idiot, and he slides out of sports mode because you're being held together by a little rubber band, and he turns an ankle, rolls an ankle,

maybe he's on the treadmill or something, he's doing some cleans, he's doing a set of curls, he loses his balance, rolls an ankle, and now it's on the gym. The gym's never responsible for you? I don't know, because why else? You think the gym's responsible for you

if you get hurt at the gym? If you get injured, I don't know. I don't know what sort of... I know. How do you know that? When you saw your contract, When you sign your contract for the gym, you think if you get hurt at the gym, the gym's responsible? Why would the gym not allow these shoes on their floor? Because they don't like how they look?

I'm more offended by people that were like jeans at the gym. And I know that usually a guy that gets caught up at work and he's like, oh, man, I forgot my shorts. I'm allowed to say this because I'm half Mexican, right? But it's usually like a foreign guy. You're right about that. Right? He's wearing slacks. He's wearing slacks on the treadmill.

If you're on the peck deck. Doing chest in pants because you forgot your gym shorts. I get it. I've done it. We've all done it. Crocs at the gym. Not a great look, but I don't see how you could say it's unacceptable. You know, Danny G. agrees with you.

Music, how do you feel about it? I know you're a proud owner of Crocs. Absolutely no crox at the gym. But not at the gym. Not even up for discussion. I'm with Rich that, you know, Crocs serve a lot of purposes. They're actually great for washing the car, you know, He's a great example.

Yeah, you know, but at the gym is absolutely blasphemous. By the way, you know how many people washed their car in today's world? Like five. You need a hard day's work. I enjoy washing. I like washing the car. You remember days of washing your car? They're few and far between.

It's not as common as it used to be, as my point. That just really doesn't happen as often as it used to. But I look at it this way, too. Pun intended, I find it to be a slippery slope because you wear your crocks to the gym, And then you're like, yeah, but I only wear them to the gym. Then you're wearing them to CVS. Then you're wearing them to the supermarket. Then you're wearing them out and you look like a clown and I don't want to hang with you.

That's really it. So, and then you have to ask yourself, are you wearing the uniform of a high school boy? That's their uniform. Think about it. Crocs at the gym. I know our buddy's spot has a particular stance on it too. But he's sleeping this morning. Oh, okay.

But he's, yeah, he's sleeping. I mean, we did start earlier than usual in his defense. Or I'm doing my job, but yes. You're the guy with the hottest take on this, and you're sitting there scratch you your butt. Hey, listen, we're going to get to the big TV game of the week. We got Deshawn Watson in the news. Tom Brady, a bunch coming up. CNR, in for the herd here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. So good to be with you guys, Kavino and Rich here on The Herd. All right, let's start things off with some college football. Only four teams remain. Penn State, Texas, Ohio State, and now Notre Dame. Two interesting notes on this first ever 12-team playoff that has unfolded. Teams with a buy.

Oh and four. Big over. Conference champions. Over five. Now, yeah, per the athletic SEC Commissioner Greg Sanky said, he is, quote, absolutely interested in changing the current playoff format for the 2025 season. One year, and they're already looking at big changes. Change it up.

Well, you saw that in Major League Baseball when they expanded the playoff. Some of the high seeds out in the first round. You get cold. I don't know. There's adjustments that always need to be made when they change rules like that. Yeah, look, I think we're actually probably all on board with this. Obviously, a lot was made about the structure of the playoff bracket when it was first announced. And the results thus far seem to back up all of those complaints.

So, you know music, you said something earlier today that really was interesting. Because the expanded playoff, you're seeing some of these players on big colleges. You've seen them a couple more times in prime time. Yeah. And that will affect their draft status. For sure. It really will. Some of these guys play a couple good games in the playoff now. Their stock rises. Absolutely. Absolutely. All right. We'll turn our attention to the pros now. The New York Jets. Well, they are, their search for a new head coach is well underway.

Multiple reports today saying interviewing Mike Vrable happening today. That's right, the former Titans head coach who has been with the Cleveland Browns this season. His contract with the Browns as a defensive analyst has expired. So he is free to interview with whoever he'd like. Starting off with the Jets, the Jets have also interviewed former Panthers and commanders head coach Ron Rivera and expected, although not official, but they are expected to at some point speak with former Jets head coach, Rex. I love this, sexy, Rex. Let me tell you, I saw an article in the New York Post, and it was really rude. It was like, the Jets don't need round two of the classless Rex Ryan. I'm like, how rude. He was a last guy.

He was classless. I know. I mean, listen, he's rough for. around the edges. I love recently he talked about his love of feet. He finally talked about that if it was hilarious. It was the screen on his phone. Did you see that?

I love his feet. Yeah. I mean, I love it. I mean, if you're a Jets fan, which I'm not, as much as Rex Ryan and Mark Sanchez didn't get there, they were the closest that team was to any glory over the last 25 years. So I don't think Rex part two is that terrible of an idea.

Listen, I... He brings a vibe, I'll tell you that. I think Rable. I do like Vrabble. I think Rable is like a cool guy also. Sure, yeah. I think if you had your number one choice, just no questions asked, I think most people with the Jets or even who just follow the NFL would say, yeah, you would hire Vrable. But the idea of Rex Ryan is not bad because to your point, look, there was a long article in the athletic about all of the stuff that happens behind the scenes with the Jets, with ownership, and how they empower or don't empower the front office, the coaching staff.

and as you pointed out, Rich, the one guy who's been able to manage all of that and have success and some pretty decent success in the postseason is Rex Ryan. Trying to fight you touch them? I would mind, actually. Thank you. So, yeah, no, we're going to avoid that.

All right. Wrap it up with this. AFC Pro Bowl quarterbacks. The selections are out. And well, it was Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, and of course people freaking out because Patrick LeVon Mahomes, the second. For the first time in his seven years as a starter, not selected to the Pro Bowl.

Oh, on his on his page, there won't be a little star next to this year. On his son is a pro football reference. He's probably mad about that. We're going to find out when we play Showtime Mahomes trivia later. One quick note, after the slow start to the season,

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And thanks for stopping by. The Hurd-Lie News. So we're going to do Rich's big TV game of the week next hour, Rich. It's one of our features heading into the weekend. Plus, later on in the show, weekend hobnobbing, all the things you need to watch in the world of sports and entertainment. So you know what's going on when you're hobnobbing at work on Monday when the new year officially begins, right?

So what to watch? over that plus trivia and prizes but your thoughts on crocs any final thoughts any final words crox at the gym i think going to the gym is already you know i i had this thought when you see all the new people taking a step in the right direction but you're doing it in a crox so isn't it's really a step in the right direction it's like a i don't know i think anyone go to the gym for the first time this week instead of looking at them as like an obstacle on a pain in the ass applaud them give me a little slow for right i mean like isn't that than that well like Don't you want them to succeed?

Like, you see some guy on the treadmill. It's like, good for you. Good for you. Good for you. Just hurry up. All right. We got more. Kavino and Rich. Next, in for Colin.

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