The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Hour 1 - Giving the Steelers credit

Episode Date: September 25, 2024

Colin gives the Steelers credit for their stability over the years and why Mike Tomlin is the rare exception in today's NFL He believes it's time to seriously question the Cowboys as "America's Team"   Guest: Danny ParkinsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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A lot of the NFL, as I've talked about kids before, the days are long, the years fly by, right? When you have kids, some days last forever. And in the NFL, week to week, there's crazy stuff happening. But at the end of the year, you kind of know who's going to end up the best quarterbacks, best coaches win the division. One of the surprises has been Pittsburgh. I mean, undefeated. In this division, a lot of people, myself included, were like third or fourth and maybe fourth. And here they are first and undefeated.

And by the way, playing Indianapolis next. It looks like 4 and O. So I don't think it's a coincidence. And that's where Jay Mack, I want to start the show today. So Mike Tomlin's not my favorite coach, but I think he's more than capable. I kind of put him in the Pete Carroll thing. I think sometimes they're a bit outdated with offense and offensive coordinators and offensive line. But they're both like Hall of Fame votes.

I'd have no problem. Mike Tomlin, Pete Carroll, getting into the Hall of Fame. But the world's changed. Football culture's changed. It's very offensive. The rules have changed. Sometimes they feel a little outdated on offense, but whatevs? But what's interesting is when you watch Mike Tomlin on this Justin Field situation.

So, by the way, Russell Wilson, and I think this is reasonable to say, there's a little maintenance with Russell. And Russell came there to be quarterback one, and now Justin Fields is on a heater. And when everybody's pressing Mike Tomlin, he's just saying, his quote yesterday is, there's no need to name Justin Fields. as quarterback one. A guy's 3-0. Leeds a division. Best he's ever played. 73% completion percentage. And Mike Tomlin's like, so what?

You couldn't do that elsewhere. There are three organizations in America that always empower the coach. Miami with Eric Spolstra, San Antonio with Greg Popovich, and the Steelers with Bill Cower, and now Mike Tomlin. That's it. What about Steve Kerr?

Hey, Steve Kerr has to massage Kevin Durand, Draymond Green, Steve Kerr, he didn't have total control. He had that locker room. Steph runs that organization. But what happens is Mike Tomlin doesn't have to tell the players what they want to hear. Well, Colin, LeBron left Miami. Colin, Kawhi Leonard. Yeah, he left San Antonio.

Yeah, and those two players are now on lousy rosters. And by the way, the heat and the spurs have eight titles between the two. How's your franchise doing? The Lakers aren't sniffing a franchise championship in a long time. And by the way, Kauai Leonard and the Clippers, they underachieve every year. I think the Spurs with Wembe going forward are going to have a great decade. And I think the Miami Heat, by the way, LeBron gave Spolstra crap.

And why did he leave? Because Spolstra and Pat Riley were in lockstep. He was like, so what? Bye, see you. So in Mike Tomlin and Pittsburgh, you've got like a quarterback dilemma. The quarterback won the star. is now sitting behind a kid who struggled in Pittsburgh, and Justin Fields is humming.

I never thought he'd be this accurate. See the field like this. And it's like, Tomlin's like, yeah, we'll figure it out when it happens, and there's nothing you can do. And, I mean, last year, think about this, the Steelers have had three head coaches in 55 years. The Carolina Panthers have had three and 48 months. It's not a coincidence.

I looked it up this morning. the most head coaches last 30 years. Raiders 15, Dolphins, Browns, 13, Lions, 12. Do you think it's a coincidence? Those teams are like second-tier teams until Detroit the last two years. The rest of those teams, it's always a circus. You think that's a coincidence?

So it is Mike Tomlin my favorite coach. No, Pete Carroll wasn't at the end, or Belichick, my favorite coach, because the world has changed, the culture's changed. But they're 3-0. He's always emboldened. and he's always empowered. And this Pittsburgh media, I mean, give the media credit in Pittsburgh. They're not giving him a pass.

They're pressing him on this every single day. And here's what he said yesterday. What more do you need to see from Justin? Why not name him the starting quarterback? Because there's no need. You know, I explain to you the variables of the week. It has not changed. He's going to walk in this building with that mindset tomorrow.

When Russ gets to an appropriate point of health, and we have a decision to make, I'll make it and I'll announce it and I'll be really transparent about it. But until then, I don't care how many ways you guys ask me, you know, I got no intentions of making the decision that's unnecessary at this juncture. And he doesn't waver and he said it six times and he doesn't care and he's 3 and 0, and they're going to go 4 and 0. And again, some of these defensive coaches can drive me nuts. Like Buffalo finally has a run game seven years in.

but I will say this is Miami Heat, San Antonio Spurs, Pittsburgh Steelers, they're never in chaos. When they're down, it's brief, they bounce back up again, and Cleveland doesn't, and the Raiders,

when's the last time the Raiders were good? Or the Browns were consistently good, or the dolphins were consistently good. What decade was that? There is in a world where players make more and have more power and scum, grub their IG every time they get their feelings hurt. There is an argument to empower the coach.

Even if he's not your favorite coach, empower the coach. Here are the Steelers once again in first place with Mike Tomlin. So I saw this headline. What do the Cowboys need to focus on to end this losing streak? Sell the team? It's funny. You know, I work at a network that has the NFC and we put Tom Brady on all these big cowboy games. Anybody watch the Niners Rams game this weekend?

It was like 70% Niners fans. The Niners, not the Cowboys, travel better than any NFL franchise. Dallas fans, they pop up, but they're not as proud, and they don't travel like the Niners. Why? Well, because they don't win big road games. What's the point? If you went to your in-laws time and time again and came back driving home in a bad mood, would you go to your in-laws as much?

Last 10 big road games for the Cowboys against playoffs? teams are two and eight. Save your money. Really. By half time, you'll be getting blown out by Buffalo or Green Bay or somebody. But to me, Kansas City and San Francisco reward their fans in January. So I've said this before. I think Kansas City is America's team right now. I mean, Taylor Swift could have dated anybody. You really think it was going to be somebody on the Jags? Travis Kelsey, number two player on the number one team in the world. So, you know, and I look at Dallas. And yes, there are still cowboy fans on the road. But as anybody else noticed in the last several years that in Dallas, where they sell out high school football games, where they have

the number one college football team in the country, the biggest football brand of Dallas Cowboys, you're seeing 25% of that stadium filled with Saints fans and Packer fans and Lions fans. here's Stephen Jones talking about it. Obviously, we'd prefer to have everybody sitting in that seat of Cowboys fan, but we're certainly the beneficiary of that on the road most of the time in terms of having large percentages of cowboy fans in opposing team stadiums. If we had our preference, honestly, no, I'd like 100% of them to be Cowboy fans, but also know that can be unrealistic.

Dallas has not won multiple playoff games in a single year in 29 years. In fact, the last time the Cowboys won more than a single playoff game, Murphy Brown was the number one TV show and Hooty and the Blowfish, the number one band.

I think that was Toy Story 1. What are they on? Toy Story 3 or 4 or 5 now? Whatever. Like, at some point, you can't keep telling me this is America's team, and what's amazing is they've done this, they've regressed with Dak and Tony Romo. those are B-plus-plus A-minus quarterbacks.

So it's not like they haven't had a good coach. Mike McCarthy won a Super Bowl. It's not like they haven't had good quarterback play. Dak will get a handful of Hall of Fame votes, and Tony Romo was really, really good. They're both really good. Better than Andy Dalton. And Andy Dalton, we saw this past weekend,

and Andy Dalton won multiple division titles and a division with the Ravens and the Steelers. Like, they're good players. So it's not just, well, it's the coach. They've had a few of those. Well, it's the quarterback. No, they've been better than average. Like Chicago's been bad.

They can't get quarterback right. Raiders been bad. They can't get quarterback right. Cleveland's been bad. They can't get anything right. But the Cowboys have gotten a lot of the player stuff right. And you watch those home games for Dallas now. Once they're getting blown out at halftime, I mean, I never knew the Baltimore

Ravens traveled much. People that are there, people you talk to are like, yeah, it's kind of a 50-50 Ravens crowd of the fourth quarter. It doesn't mean you eventually America loves winners. The Cowboys are kind of a loser. I mean, when it comes to January and February, this isn't baseball. There's no nostalgia in football. We don't care what you did years ago.

It doesn't matter what you do in the regular season. The Raiders have been to a Super Bowl. The Jags have been to a conference championship. Detroit was in one last year for the Cowboys. You're talking about America's team. America doesn't like losers. They don't like losers. And in football, January and February is where winners play.

And the Cowboys are never there. All right, Joel Clat, 45 minutes from now. But they won 12 games. Nobody cares. Again, like in baseball, you can be a Hall of Famer, Mike Trout, be called the best player in the game, never win a playoff game. Forget a series. That's okay with baseball.

In the NBA, I mean, Carmelo Anthony was a losing player. He can be a first ballot. He's the first bout hall of fame player. He's beloved in the sport. Never made a teammate better. That's basketball. Aesthetics, optics, stylistically, that matters in basketball. I'm good with it.

I'm okay with that. There's a lot of art in basketball. Same with soccer. If Messi doesn't win the World Cup, it doesn't devalue. He's the best soccer player on the planet last 20 years. He and Ronaldo. In baseball, nobody really cares how many titles Bob Gibson or Sandy Kofax had. But in football, it's about January and February.

That's what it's about. That's what it's about. Two teams, Kansas City, New England, hoisting the trophies. And Dallas didn't even get in there. San Francisco may lose, but they're getting there. Dallas didn't even sniff it. They haven't won multiple playoff games. 29 years.

It's insane. And I liked Murphy Brown. And who did you and the ballpitch were fine? Then. It's now. All right. We got a lot of stuff today, Jay Mang. tomorrow in a game that may have not looked like much

tomorrow the Cowboys speaking of them and the New York Giants are you still on the Dallas side I bet it at four four and a half I think it's going to start to go up my guess is closes six okay so is tomorrow a big blowout for Dallas you think in New York big blowout I think it bounced back and get the dub all right 27 17 what a Friday show is another cowboy loss

it's good for content Oh, it's great for content. It's great for content. I've said this. Aaron Rogers losing is bad for content. Aaron winning is good. Oh, it's great. It's great.

Dallas losing, I would argue, is great for content. So is this a Colin right or Colin wrong, Dallas falling to one and three? I just, I think there's a couple numbers out there I'd keep my eye on. First of all, we know this. Underdogs are having the greatest start in history of betting. Yeah, that will not continue. Just FYI. Okay.

All right. Like, it's not like, you know, 52%. It's like 90%. at Dallas Well you listen you know in the Vegas contest I went 5 and 0 last week so Just thought I'd mentioned casually mentioned that I really like the Cowboys and Bears this week

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I think people in Washington, D.C. certainly did. But it was interesting. It was on the road. That's always tougher. It was Joe Burrell in a maker break for the season game for Cincinnati. It was national TV. By the end of the game, it was a standalone game as an underdog. And the kid goes 21 to 23, 142 passer rating, three total touchdowns.

he honestly looked brilliant. Back-to-back games, Washington's offense, no punts and no turnovers. Anybody else watch that game and kind of think to themselves, do we got a C.J. Stroud thing going on where the number two quarterback pick is way better than the number one pick. Now, Caleb Williams is a much bigger, stronger athlete than Bryce Young. He looks the part, and he's gotten gradually better.

But if you start looking at the numbers, and most of the time with these young quarterback stars, we knew Burrow, Kyler Murray, Justin Herbert first game. Even when Mahomes wasn't playing, you were getting reports

and video was leaking on how good Mahomes was as he was sitting backing up. Lamar Jackson, you were hearing reports about, and that's what we had with Jalen Daniels. With Jaden Daniels,

you were getting reports very early on. Dan Quinn is like, and usually coaches slow play a young quarterback. Well, it's a process. You didn't get that with Jaden Daniels. Dan Quinn was like, it's kind of blowing us away. Cliff Kingsbury

is like, multiple times Kingsbury went to a podium. This is the opposite of what you do with rookie quarterbacks. It was like, yeah, I can't. And this guy does everything right. His accuracy is insane. That's what they did with like Andrew Luck.

When Kobe Fleener, a tight end for the Colts, went on record like two weeks into camp and said, he memorized the playbook in two days. I was. went to Stanford, it took me a month. Like that's what people said about Elway. That's what people said. I mean, we're still waiting for that stuff from Trevor Lawrence.

In camp, Washington couldn't control themselves. And Kingsbury's been around long enough to know, don't hype a young quarterback. And Kingsbury couldn't help himself. And Dan Quinn couldn't help himself. These are not like rookie coaches that are over their skis or Dion Sanders trying to change the culture in college. And if you look at Caleb and Jaden Daniels, there are two things that are not disputable. Caleb is very inaccurate. Jaden is crazy accurate. It's not like close. And Caleb is very turnover prone. And Jaden never turns the ball over. Like those are big things. So it's one of those,

I mean, C.J. Stroud by a sixth game and Bryce Young by his third, we're like, yeah, I've seen enough to know that that guy at two is just going to be better than the one guy. Now, the one guy may get better, he may get a better coach, but the two guys great now. You're watching Jaden Daniels Monday night. It's like, yeah, that's all I need to see. They're only going to get better on the offensive line. They're only going to get better. Like, this is the start of it, and Washington can't control themselves.

Their announcers can't control themselves. Dan Quinn. So I don't know what it means for Caleb Williams, but I'm finding myself with Caleb, and he's better than Bryce Young. I'm not saying it's that. But I am finding myself one year later saying the same stuff, well, he's got to get the right coach. He's got to get a better offensive

so I said about Bryce Young. And I think Caleb's much better than Bryce Young. But, I mean, on, I mean, Dan Quinn on the ascension of Jaden Daniels. I definitely understand, like, our fan base has been waiting, you know, for the franchise QB. But I also want Jaden feeling

any ghosts, making sure he understands. There's only one name on the back of that jersey. and that's for him. And I don't want any comparison or any of the other stuff. I think it was that Teddy Roosevelt quote. Comparison is the thief of joy. Yeah, but it's really hard when you do what we do to watch Jaden and watch Caleb. And like, it's not subtle or nuanced.

It's like really accurate, not accurate. No turnovers, lots of turnovers. Great judgment, not great judgment. Like, it's getting like, like last year, it's getting really wide really quickly. J-Mac with the news No, no, no, no Turn on the news This is the

Heard Line News One of the things I love, Colin, is we start talking about these games on Monday for the upcoming week and then just stuff just continues to happen all week, so we're going to start here with the Philadelphia Eagles, Colin. Two and one, but have made some

poor decisions by their head coach the last two games, okay? Eagles, big, tough schedule. Colin, some Things are happening right now. And in a recent podcast appearance, former Eagle Chris Long, who carries a lot of weight in Philadelphia,

was very critical of Nick Siriani's decisions in clutch situations. I like Nick. I think Nick has done a good job. No, really, I do. It's just right now he's kind of under a microscope because of the decisions he's making. He's not even calling the game. So that's my thing.

It's like you've got to own the feeling of the flow of the game. And to me, I said on my pod, I would give him a mirror. Look in it, this is not the same team, certainly not yesterday, that won the Super Bowl two years ago, where you're going to score 40 points a game. You have to sometimes lay up. And when you got Saquan Barkley, you got to give him the damn ball. You saw what happened yesterday. Any three-yard game could turn to 70. You know, so here's what's funny.

We have kind of laughed this year that Sam Darnold has become what I thought he would become. Right. And so he finally needed the perfect first. fit. Now, I think the bubble will burst eventually. Could burst in Lambo this weekend. I think Green Bay is very good. But fans disappear when

they're wrong. We have to do a show. So when Nick Seriani got the job, I said on the air, based on two sources, he was not ready for the job. I was told he could be a good coach, but he's not ready. And then he had the press conference that was humiliating. And then he started

slowly. And I was right. And then he gets Shane Steichen. And everybody's like, you don't know what you talk about guys up by late, my ball. And now again, we're going back to pre-Stuyken calling the plays. Is that this was always the thing. Like, Freddie Kitchens got a head job in Cleveland. He was not ready for the job. I mean, that guy in San Francisco when Harbaugh left, Jim Tom Sula.

The opening press conference was a disaster. There are coaches that get fired. They're ready for the job. But circumstances, like Frank Reich did a really. good job in Indianapolis and got fired by an impulsive owner and they've never really kind of recovered right and I love Stuyken but with Nick and this doesn't happen very often it may be every third coaching cycle every third year a guy gets a job but he's not ready for it now that doesn't mean he can't grow into it Shane Stuyken stays one more year maybe he sponges more

information, but it does feel like with Sariani. We are getting back to the press conference, the pre-Shane Stuyken, where we're just not sure. Eagles, Philly fans, Philly media, we're not quite sure he's a head coach. But they have so much damn talent, A-plus GM, A-plus owner, Super talented quarterback. Again, you can, you can fool. I could win a few hands of poker playing. with a poker pro if I got great cards.

But eventually over eight hands, 10 hands, 12 hands, I get humiliated. If we're getting to a point now, like, people are questioning, is he a head coach? Brandon Staley, we figured it out. That's the perfect comparison. He just wasn't a head coach. You could see it early with Staley and the Chargers

and everybody saw it, but they got lucky, got to the playoff. They weren't winning enough. The next year, it flipped and it was over. They fire in mid-season. I'm not saying that's where Sirianney said. But let me ask you this. You don't hear,

Chris Long, a very respected eagle. It's one thing if you and I call out Siriani. It's another for Chris Long to go out there when they're two and one. Ask yourself this. So we had questions about Brandon Staley early, but they did get to the playoffs. And then it crashed. Could I not argue at the end of last year, Philadelphia crashed? Oh, no, they were 10 in 1 and then cratered.

It was awful. So they did a Staley. They just have better players, a top owner, at the time considered a top GM. They just had a better infrastructure, but Philadelphia did a Chargers, where there was like mutiny in the locker room, like players. By the way, we heard a story that Sariani and Jalen Hertz struggled. So in this week, they've got a charger Staley Field to it a little, but they just win more because they have so many good quality elements. There's a lot of injuries in Philadelphia this week. Colin, if they lose to Tampa, okay?

And we know that people are out on Siriani, two straight weeks. I just wonder, man, Monday morning, are we talking about? But hey, is Bill Belichick the next coach of the Eagles? I think that's a perfect fit. That's a great job for Belichick. Great city, passionate. A lot of talent. That division's not great.

Belichick could dominate with the Eagles, Colin. Remember, Brandon Staley, for a year, he was smart, good-looking guy. He had a plan. But it was by year two and three, by year two, he started going against his plan. Remember, he was like, go for it, guy. And then he started punning, and you're like, oh, he didn't even believe. even his plan anymore. That was your fastball. Now you're not throwing your fastball. And so Siriani, oh, it's all my magic with Jalen Hurts. It's like, now we hear a story that Jalen

Hertz and Siriani like struggle. Like that's your fastball. And just like in Jacksonville with Trevor Lawrence and Peterson, I'm sorry, guys, nobody's moving off Jalen Hertz. You're not doing that. Not at least not this year. No. If it continues, who knows. But, um, all right, let's get to the next story. Dallas Cowboys, Rough two-week stretch for the, uh, the, America's team, C.D. Lamb in particular, he got stripped by the rookie inside, I think, inside the 10-yard line. The kid Wiggins made a nice play, and then was arguing with Jack Prescott on the sideline. Lip readers out here are saying he was, I'm open, get me the ball. Anyways, C.D. Lamb kind of apologized for his actions yesterday.

As for me and my performance, I expect a lot on myself more than anyone could put on me. And quite honestly, I felt myself, and obviously I felt the team just as far as producing. and being that game breaker player for the team and obviously the guy that they can lean on. And yeah, I kind of let the game get to my head a little bit. But in the same sense, I knew what I can do. I knew what I bring to the table and I know what I can do on that field. I mean, he's owning it. I'm good with that.

He owns it. He's not being delusional. He's like, I got in my head. By the way, three hours a week, you have to play with intensity. You lose your head. Guys, it's okay. You do three hours a day. lose your mind. Well, I'm not also not getting tackled and beaten down. I can tackle you.

I say, I don't want my head coach or quarterback, but I understand when players lose it, long as they come out and go, hey man, I lost it. It's weird. It's often wide receivers losing it, not tight ends or running backs or linebackers. He's a very great player and he gets very frustrated. He got frustrated last year in the Green Bay game, and he tends to get frustrated with the quarterback. It happens. Just own it. If you, we're not perfect. If you own it, I'm good with it. I don't want my quarterback or coach being that guy.

I can deal with my receiver and linebacker, sometimes losing it. Producer pointed out that CD Lamb last year had an incident during a blowout loss to the Niners. And after that went off. Just 100-yard games every week, just stacking numbers. Yeah. I will point this out. Cowboys Giants Thursday night. Giants injury report.

Take a look. I just did. Top two cornerbacks. I know. Not practicing. Yeah, I know. This could be a big, like, 190 for C. Yeah.

I just noticed that. I got a text from somebody, as I said, keep your eye on the Giants. He said, keep your eye on the injury report. Cowboys, lock it up. Final story, Colin. Oh, yeah, the Jets, of course. Remember that athletic story about the Jets locker room being in complete disarray?

And you and I, I disagreed with that. I didn't think, I thought Aaron went to Egypt. We were making too much of disarray. It was a low-hanging fruit. The Jets. There may have been a little bit. Well, yesterday, Aaron Rogers, you know, a month later, address the report saying,

I would say that the culture is about the opposite of what the article said. I didn't read the article, but just reading the headline, it sounds like it was written by Hassan Reddick's agent with the way they're trying to disparage the organization. Colin Rogers is not, he's not holding back. He's just throwing haymakers. Hassan Reddick's agent, ooh, I like that. Got to give Rogers a little shout out there, nicely done.

Yeah, I think there was a lot of noise. with the Niners and I had it sourced that was driving Kyle Shanahan crazy. I think the Cincinnati stuff has not been good for the organization. Aaron's going to miss some practices. In the offseason, Aaron, over the last five years,

he's going to disappear and you just have to deal with it. I don't necessarily, I wouldn't do that. Jimmy Garoppolo did that as well. Like the Niners for years, like he would disappear for a month. Like off, they couldn't find him. Aaron does that occasionally. But Aaron said, I gave my heads up where I was going. They knew where I was going.

Then there were some little passive-aggressive stuff by Sala and Aaron in the media. But in the end, I don't look at them as turmoil. I don't trust their ownership group. I don't trust their offensive coordinator, but I don't look at them as right now today as turmoil. It's weird because Rogers is so mouthey. And then he had that moment with Sala on the sideline where Sala was like, oh, geeked and, hey, settle down. It's early. Remember, he has established himself.

He is the heartbeat of this team. Not the defense, not the coach. It's Aaron Rogers. If he plays like he did Thursday against the Patriots, if he plays like that every week, bro, you can say whatever you want. By the way, everybody's going to love you, Rogers. The best bet on the board was Jets. Now it's up to seven and a half.

Now it's not the best bet on the board. It's up to seven and a half last time I checked. I mean, that's considering how well Denver played. They were six and a half against a Patriots. I was thinking about this. You know, some of the craziest lines I've seen this year have been on Thursday games. So I just want people to think about this.

I'm not saying what I'm about to state is true, but I thought about this. So, like, I didn't get the Jets line last week. And then somebody pointed out, it's a short week for a young team with a rookie head coach. These Thursday games, if we go and project what's going to happen, is the Thursday game, the one game where you should always take the favorite? Because if you have limitations on practices, healing injuries, just go with a veteran coach and a veteran quarterback. Go with your stars on Thursday. Over the course of equal time, equal health, it's different.

You just don't have any time on a Thursday game to insert a lot of new stuff. No padded practices. None of your old guys are padded practices. So in these Thursday games, it's like who's got the best coach or quarterback? just take favorites on Thursday. I'm just throwing it out there. This cowboy line looks way bigger than I think it would be on Sunday. Two weeks ago, Miami was favored against Buffalo.

Both of us. Dumb. And Buffalo crushed them. Better quarterback. I just don't think you can make blanket statements. I'm just saying, star quarterback, Buffalo crushes Miami. Star quarterback Aaron dominates. So now I get Dak and Daniel Jones.

No padded practices, no gadgets. It's just who's the best dude? I'm just saying the Thursday not. Last two weeks. I'm saying it's a bit of an underdog year for betters. On Thursday is the argument. Who's the best most functional quarterback? Take him on a Thursday because you got no new gadgets, no trickery.

There's no time for him. I mean, guys don't even come back to the filcility till Tuesday. Sometimes if they win, it's Wednesday. So Jets Broncos, is that going to make the Blazing 5 or no? It was under consideration. Damn. Okay. The ninth in the herd hierarchy

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He was in Chicago. FS1 brought him over. I put him on the volume, just an interesting, fascinating guy. And right now he's part of the breakfast ball, the new show here at this network. And, of course, he thought when he came to our network, the Bears would be 3 and O. They'd be the talk of the NFL. And instead, they're just Will Levis judgment.

from being 0-1-3. So I did say this. I did find myself watching Jaden Daniels, who was not just good against the desperate Cincinnati team. It's literally like they haven't punted or had a turnover in multiple weeks. That never happened even with Brady. And it does feel a little, Danny, a little like last year was C.J. Stroud about three to four games in with Bryce Young,

where you're like, yeah, this isn't close. The two's way better than the one. So that's the truth so far. Is that even entered? Have you even considered that for a moment, or is it going to get better for Caleb? It already has gotten better for Caleb. I mean, in game one, he didn't even throw for 100 yards. And then in game two, on Sunday night football, you know, it's 170-something yards,

and he rushes for 44, and he makes more plays from the pocket, and they're down a score late in the fourth quarter against the 10th. Texans. And then last week, yeah, some of it was in garbage time and some of it's a Hail Mary at the end of the first half, but it's 360 passing yards and a couple of scores. So it's three games. Washington fans have seen RG3 look amazing as a rookie and then not. Mitch Trubisky had a six touchdown game. So let's just let's just pump the breaks here. Caleb Williams is going to be fine. I have no buyer's remorse yet. That's all I'm asking. I'm not saying it's a lemon. I just said broke down in the I don't like it. I don't like your tone. I don't like Carton's tone. I don't like Schlerth's tone on breakfast ball. They're all taking a little too much joy at the pot.

Like, oh, have you seen Justin Fields? He's undefeated. You wish he was still the Bears quarterback? No, I don't. Okay. I'm fine. It's going to be fine. But I will say this because I was never a fan of Justin Fields, and you've got a lot of crap for bailing on him much earlier than the rest of the Chicago media.

I will say this. Structure matters. Pittsburgh's got better. structure than Chicago, and the fact that he's completing 73% of his throws, you watch him play, he's seeing the field. Like, you're a little surprised how effective he's been just in the efficiency department. Are you not? This is a product of coaching, and Pittsburgh deserves a ton of credit.

Arthur Smith deserves a ton of credit, and Justin Fields deserves a ton of credit. They have done in Pittsburgh in one year through three games what Luke Getsey and Matt Nagy were not able to do for Justin Fields in three years. years, which is he fumbled the ball way too much and he took way too many sacks. His turnovers are down. His sack numbers are way down. And the efficiency is way up. So Justin Fields deserves credit. But let's not kid ourselves. Pittsburgh is undefeated because their defense is allowing nine points per game. They're 28th in passing yards. They're 24th in points. They're dead last in offensive touchdowns. So the offense is

bottom five, bottom six in the league, at every metric you could possibly look at when it comes to scoring or passing the football. He's just not making big mistakes, which credit to him, he used to make big mistakes and credit to Arthur Smith for putting him in that spot. But he's not the long-term answer in Pittsburgh based on what he's shown through three weeks. So now that you're more national, like when you're in a local hole, you're doing a lot of bears, cubs, no question. You'll delve into occasional national issues. But now you're at FS1, you understand the power of the cowboys. Tom Brady now is essentially an employee of Fox and the Cowboys. Those of the games we put Tom on. And so I've never

really heard a lot about Dallas. And my takeaway is, I always say the same thing about Dallas every year. They'll be pretty good. And that's what they are virtually every year. But I don't think they're a Super Bowl team. I said I thought they'd have slight regression. They just don't have money. CD got paid. Dak got paid. Micah get paid. They're going to be up against the cap. for years. What is your take? You know, in baseball, it's nostalgia, but in tech and the NFL, we don't care about that, win in January. How do you view the Cowboys when, now from Chicago to us, how do you view it? How, in your world, how do you look at them? Well, they've won 12 games three years in a row and then done nothing in the postseason, and they led the league in

scoring last year. So they were good and worthy of discussion. And then they also have this ability to generate stories out of nothing because their owner is their general manager who does postgame press conferences and has his own radio show. So he fuels this whole sports take industrial complex that we are a part of where it's like, oh my God, it's Wednesday. It's the slowest day of the NFL week. But Jerry Jones spoke yesterday. You know, so it's all by design. He loves the noise, he loves the chaos. It's not a coincidence that he announced the DAC Prescott contract extension two hours before kickoff of the opener. We're like, wow, it's a distraction, it's noise. That's the chaos that they thrive on. But on

the field, to me they're the bully at the playground. I don't know what your grade school was or whatever, but for me there was a grade school like fifth through eighth grade and then you went off to high school. So the eighth grader is the bully against the fifth grader. But then next year, they're the kid that gets bullied when they're the ninth grader by the juniors and seniors. Dallas beats bad teams. They beat bad teams. But when they play good teams, when they play up in competition, they get bullied because the formula is really out on them, which is basically you run the ball at Dallas and they're going to fold up shop. And so that's what happened last week. They'll probably beat the Giants. And then when they

play a good team again, they'll lose. Okay, I'm going to give you a team that we think is good, probably has the best roster and are struggling. San Francisco. Lay it out for me. I put him in my hurt hierarchy, and I didn't put the Steelers in. I still buy them. What say you? I did the exact same thing today on Breakfast Ball.

Kyle Shanahan deserves the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. And Debo will be back, and Trent Williams will be back, and Kittle will be back, and we'll see about McCaffrey. But McCaffrey goes out and Mason produces. Everyone produces. Devante Freeman produced in a kind of. Kyle Shanahan system at running back.

Alfred Morris produced in a Kyle Shanahan system at running back. So if he can get Jimmy Garoppolo into a Super Bowl and he can get Brock Purdy into a Super Bowl, he can weather these injuries right now. I think they're the safest bet week in and week out to be good, and eventually they'll get healthy. By the way, his family, his lovely family is still in Chicago. Danny is in New York and around Times Square and had a great line during the break. I said, what do you make a Times Square? Danny and your your interpretation was what this was very funny oh well thank you

yes it's it I am a married man with kids who lives in suburbia and now I'm living out of a hotel in Times Square it's like so instead of walking to like you know a pharmacy or a grocery store it's there's a Bubba Gump shrimp or the M&M store or like a naked cowboy trying to sell me a fake Rolex like it's just it's I'm living in like a dystopian world and like I'm on TV and not the radio. I'm not with my wife. I'm not with my kids. I don't know what the hell's going on in my life, Colin. It's all very, very strange.

Danny Park. Very strange. Yes, it is. Yes, Times Square and life is. Good, Danny, great seeing as always, buddy. Thank you, Colin. All right. That was funny. The, and it smells like cannabis, if it's, if it's New York. Jay Mack,

got to tell you, he did make the argument with Caleb. Baby steps, but he is more productive than week one. He does have a win. Bryce Young couldn't get those. And we are seeing growth. And I think that's, I set him up for it.

But I think that's fair with Caleb. A, he's more talented than Bryce. By the way, Bryce played behind a powerhouse high school and a powerhouse college. Caleb Williams was easily the most talented player in seven years at the college he went to, USC, with battle line play. So like what we're seeing here is somebody that has played under duress and had to carry a team, which is what he'll have to do eventually in the end. NFL with Keenan Allen out and a hot seat coach. Bryce Young never lived that life. He was carried by the best high school coach in Southern Cal and the best college coach and the best defense.

It just feels like the media is always so star for who the next star is and they see Caleb doing some backyard football, Patrick Mahomes type stuff. And everybody just said he's the next guy. He's just a superstar. Like these things take time. Can we give him more than three games before we say he's on the Bryce Young track? Like, come on. Hey, we got a show today. Let's get like three seasons. Now, nobody's given... Trevor Lawrence?

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